Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Nancy Beale PhD, RN, NI-BC, FAMIA, Chief Nursing Information Officer, VP of Clinical Informatics, Catholic Health
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- 0:28This is Gracelyn Keller with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:30Podcast, and we are recording live at the
- 0:32tenth annual health IT, digital health, and RCM
- 0:35meeting. I'm currently joined by doctor Nancy Beal,
- 0:39who is the chief nursing information officer and
- 0:41VP of clinical informatics at Catholic Health. Doctor
- 0:44Beal, thanks for being here. Let's have you
- 0:46start off by sharing a little bit more
- 0:48about yourself and your work in health care.
- 0:51Great. Thanks for having me. I've been in
- 0:54health care for over forty years. I spent
- 0:56the first couple decades in my career
- 0:59working at the bedside in clinical practice, everything
- 1:02from staff nurse to director.
- 1:05And then I moved into health care IT
- 1:07when I went to work for Epic.
- 1:09I worked at Epic for close to a
- 1:11decade, about nine years, and worked with health
- 1:14systems across the country
- 1:16implementing healthcare IT.
- 1:18Many,
- 1:20many new adventures,
- 1:21in that work.
- 1:23Went from there, I,
- 1:25did some consulting, which landed me in New
- 1:27York City.
- 1:28Started initially as a consultant and then took
- 1:31on the role of
- 1:32vice president of, clinical systems and integration at
- 1:36NYU Langone Health,
- 1:38and I was there for about six years.
- 1:40From there, I went to, finish my PhD,
- 1:44and now I'm back in New York,
- 1:46working at Catholic Health in Long Island,
- 1:49for about the last year and a half.
- 1:51Wonderful. Well, again, thanks for being here. And
- 1:54let's start our conversation talking about AI as
- 1:56that is such a large topic right now
- 1:59in the health space. And nearly half of
- 2:01medical practices reported using AI in some capacity
- 2:04in the past year,
- 2:05and it remains a key topic for health
- 2:07IT leaders. So from your perspective, what are
- 2:09the use cases that are making a difference
- 2:11right now, and how are you leveraging them
- 2:12in your organization?
- 2:14So there when people think about AI,
- 2:17oftentimes,
- 2:18people who are
- 2:20not as close to it as those of
- 2:22us in technology, think of it as one
- 2:24thing. As we know,
- 2:26AI is multiple things. Right? It's an umbrella
- 2:29over different technologies.
- 2:31And I think that some of the early
- 2:33use cases that have been very beneficial
- 2:36are things like automated
- 2:38responses
- 2:39to patient messages. That's been a huge gain
- 2:42and satisfier for both patients
- 2:45and providers.
- 2:46In addition to that, now getting closer to
- 2:49the generative
- 2:50AI,
- 2:52phase of things. I think that has been
- 2:54a real patient and provider satisfier
- 2:58to allow providers to have more face time
- 3:00with patients and be more efficient in the
- 3:02care that they do.
- 3:04And as virtual care expands from AI enabled
- 3:07tools to remote monitoring to broader digital health
- 3:10platforms,
- 3:11Introducing new technology can bring challenges. So what
- 3:14advice do you have for leaders navigating everything
- 3:16from governance to patient engagement?
- 3:18And can you share an example of how
- 3:20your organization has balanced innovation with operational constraint?
- 3:24Yes. I think some of the biggest challenges
- 3:27aside from financial challenges, right, to afford from
- 3:30some of these advanced tools
- 3:33are really understanding what your strategy is. What's
- 3:36the problem you're trying to solve. Oftentimes, people
- 3:39will bring a tool to the table,
- 3:41looking for a problem. And so really having
- 3:44a an identified
- 3:46strategy that will help you navigate
- 3:49what your progress and plan should be to
- 3:51use that those tools. So an example of
- 3:54that is,
- 3:55we are expanding the use of, virtual care
- 3:58and virtual nursing at our organization.
- 4:01In the past, we have done some,
- 4:04homegrown
- 4:05virtual
- 4:06nursing
- 4:06to do,
- 4:08admission documentation.
- 4:09We've also done virtual observation,
- 4:12with a vendor,
- 4:13And we're now bringing a new platform to
- 4:16bear and plan to expand that use case
- 4:20to include other workflows,
- 4:22such as,
- 4:24patient education,
- 4:25virtual rounding,
- 4:27discharge planning,
- 4:29and even get into the provider workspace
- 4:32where you have a remote provider who needs
- 4:35to consult with somebody who is on-site with
- 4:37the patient.
- 4:38So understanding
- 4:40what the strategy is, what I call the
- 4:42crawl, walk, run strategy,
- 4:45and make sure that you have the right
- 4:47engagement and buy in
- 4:49from the people who are engaged at the
- 4:52at the most basic level on the front
- 4:54line.
- 4:55Absolutely. And shifting gears slightly, how are you
- 4:58seeing recent legislation both at the state and
- 5:00federal levels affect health care organizations and health
- 5:03IT specifically?
- 5:04And have you adjusted strategies in response?
- 5:07Really good question given that it is October
- 5:102 and,
- 5:12provisions ended September 30 that afforded a lot
- 5:15of
- 5:16the telehealth support.
- 5:18If you think back, a lot has evolved
- 5:21and changed since COVID,
- 5:23and that has been a lot of positive,
- 5:26engagement,
- 5:28positive progress to creating access to care,
- 5:32and serving patients in a way that we
- 5:34haven't been able to serve them in the
- 5:35past. I think about
- 5:37this impact of
- 5:39rolling back some of that legislation
- 5:42and not supporting reimbursement
- 5:45is going to impact our patients' access to
- 5:47care, and particularly,
- 5:49those patients who are
- 5:51perhaps most at risk
- 5:53and in the most remote areas will no
- 5:55longer have access to care.
- 5:57I think it is imperative
- 6:00that both the provider and the vendor communities
- 6:02come together
- 6:03to lobby for this important,
- 6:06permanent support
- 6:08of this kind of care because this is
- 6:10where the future needs to go to support
- 6:12our patients.
- 6:13And final question as we wrap up our
- 6:15conversation,
- 6:16what is your top piece of advice for
- 6:18health care leaders as they prepare for further
- 6:20advancements in technology and rising demands for care?
- 6:24Well, I think you have to keep your
- 6:25finger on the pulse of the changes.
- 6:28There are so many things that are changing,
- 6:31day to day, week to week, month to
- 6:33month in the industry. So understand what's what's
- 6:36out there and what's coming so that when
- 6:39you do make an investment in a technology,
- 6:41it doesn't become
- 6:43quickly antiquated.
- 6:45I think also from a strategy perspective again,
- 6:48really having an outline of what your goals
- 6:51are and how you're going to measure if
- 6:52you're successful with this tool or set of
- 6:55tools
- 6:56and whether or not they're going to solve
- 6:58the problems that you're trying to solve.
- 7:01Wonderful. Well, thank you so much for joining
- 7:03me today on the Becker's healthcare podcast and
- 7:06sharing your insights on these topics. Again, we
- 7:08are recording live at the tenth annual health
- 7:10IT, digital health, and RCM meeting.
- 7:13Thank you.