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Bucky on Structure and Young Players | Huddle Up: Wednesday, March 29 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The fields out a group proudly presents Huddle Ups with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. JP Shagrick, John Oser and NFL Network analyst
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Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on
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Speaker 1: your Jackson pill Jack Wars. We've got to look to
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Speaker 1: the draft, We've got to look to developing the guys
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Speaker 1: that are currently here and obviously retain as many of
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Speaker 1: these guys as we can. Huddle Up With Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today
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Speaker 1: is Wednesday, March twenty ninth. J. P. Shadrick in with
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Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks, Jaguars dot Com senior writer
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Speaker 1: John Oser traveling back from Phoenix. Not with us today.
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Speaker 1: Give us a listen on the podcast page at Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot com or on the official Jaguars Podcast network that's
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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever else you download your pods. Bucky,
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Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. Good morning in La. As we
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Speaker 1: record this and the offseason continue use the NFL Annual
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Speaker 1: Meeting is coming to a close. It's a big, huge
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Speaker 1: event in the off season now and the league likes
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Speaker 1: to have these things every two three weeks in the
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Speaker 1: off season. This is certainly a big week. Yeah, big week.
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Speaker 1: A lot of things going on, a lot of news
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Speaker 1: to discuss and report. And I don't know why you
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Speaker 1: say it's the off season. There's never an off season.
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Speaker 1: There's get ready season, and then there's the season. And
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Speaker 1: right now everyone is getting ready. They're getting ready for
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Speaker 1: the draft, they're getting ready for the players to come
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Speaker 1: back into the building for off season workouts, and then
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Speaker 1: they're getting ready to enjoy my favorite part of it,
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Speaker 1: OTAs in minicamp. I love that part, just to see
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Speaker 1: the pride track, all the stuff that's going on to
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Speaker 1: get ready. Before you know it, JP, we're right back
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Speaker 1: in the mix and we'll be playing football. Things are
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Speaker 1: on the horizon, actual football players on an actual field,
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Speaker 1: not wearing actual pads, but they are actually going through
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Speaker 1: the motions at least, and that's a step in the
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Speaker 1: right direction. Let's review Doug Peterson. He spoke as all
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Speaker 1: coaches do during the l annual meeting. There's a Coach's
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Speaker 1: Breakfast AFC one day, NFC the next. And Peterson was
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Speaker 1: speaking earlier this week Monday at the Built More in Phoenix,
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Speaker 1: and the big question about the offense moving ahead, Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence going into year two in his system, and Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson in year two, what can you expect from this
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's offense. You know, for Trevor, it's just understanding. Now
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Speaker 1: he knows Christian And'sa and Evan and he knows all
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Speaker 1: those guys around him. It's just now, we need to
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Speaker 1: get better in the passing game. We need to we
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Speaker 1: need to take it up another another notch. And you know,
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Speaker 1: Travis Etn, Jamichael Hasty, Snoop Connor, you know, guys in
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Speaker 1: the running game, We've got to be better at angles,
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Speaker 1: we got to be better at hitting holes. We got
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Speaker 1: to see the whole better. There's just those little detailed
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Speaker 1: things that now in year two we'll be able well
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Speaker 1: year two for us, it's year three for them, but
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Speaker 1: that they'll be able to see and we can show
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Speaker 1: them now on tape this spring, those those issues and
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Speaker 1: that's where we get that's where we get better, and
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Speaker 1: that's where we take another step. It's just the details
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Speaker 1: of what we're doing in all three phases. And you know,
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Speaker 1: that's why this offseason will be exciting to get the
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Speaker 1: guys back and we're not necessarily installing the offense again
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Speaker 1: or the defense again. Right, it's now, it's just how
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Speaker 1: we make it better and how we use our players
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Speaker 1: better in certain situations. Yeah. So, Bucky, the details of
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Speaker 1: this offense, just the little things, the timing, maybe the
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Speaker 1: difference and routes and guys running and just getting that
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Speaker 1: chemistry together and building upon what they did last season. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's the advantage that you have when you don't change systems.
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Speaker 1: You have the same head coach, offensive coordinator, you have
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Speaker 1: the bulk of the players returning. You have your core
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Speaker 1: offensive players all returning. Now you're building upon what it
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Speaker 1: is that you establish last season for the offense. For
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in particularly, it's a very exciting time. Trevor
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Speaker 1: now has an opportunity to play with the same set
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Speaker 1: of playmakers on the outside with an upgrade and Calvin
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Speaker 1: Ridley coming on board. And we won't try put too
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Speaker 1: much on Calvin, but let's everyone needs to understand very
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Speaker 1: special player that is joining the crew, and this offense
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Speaker 1: can be really special. With what has been assembled, I
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Speaker 1: would expect the Jaguars did not only have a top
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Speaker 1: five offense, but to be one of the more explosive
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Speaker 1: and exciting offenses that we see in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League next season, I got a score, right. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense at earlier in the season was good
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Speaker 1: against getting taking the ball away, and then later in
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Speaker 1: the season got back to that. But I mean this
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Speaker 1: offense average went twenty four points per game. I think
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Speaker 1: that was top ten in the league, and then but
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Speaker 1: the leaders in the NFL are like twenty eight, twenty
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Speaker 1: nine points per game. You add two three points a game,
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Speaker 1: then then all of a sudden, you're right there in
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Speaker 1: the top five. Yeah. So I would think with Doug Peterson,
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Speaker 1: the offense being his baby, the magic number that he's
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Speaker 1: gonna talk to the team each year is thirty. You
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Speaker 1: get to thirty points each week, it's gonna be thirty.
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Speaker 1: The thirty points you're gonna win games in this league.
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Speaker 1: And it takes the pressure off the defense being a
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Speaker 1: what we call a shut them down defense to being
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Speaker 1: an opportunistic defense, which is what we ended up having
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Speaker 1: last season, taking the ball away, getting timely stops in
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Speaker 1: the red zone, making just a handful of plays to
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Speaker 1: be able to get off the field to win it.
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Speaker 1: But the pressure the unit, the side of the ball
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Speaker 1: that should carry the water has to be the offense
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Speaker 1: because that's where not only where the resources have been
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Speaker 1: kind of expended, but that's where I would say the
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Speaker 1: best players are your quarterback, you think about all the
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Speaker 1: White House? Do you think about Travis Hitzien in the backfield?
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Speaker 1: The offense has to be ready to go each and
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Speaker 1: every week. I'll say this, and typically you want the
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Speaker 1: defense to kind of guide you to the championship, but offensively,
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Speaker 1: no off days. They have to be able to hit
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Speaker 1: that number. It has to be thirty points, and so
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Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of pressure. I think you'll see
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Speaker 1: maybe a more ornery Doug Peterson in terms of demanding
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Speaker 1: a little more from the offense because he understands if
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Speaker 1: this offense is up and running and they can be
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Speaker 1: one of the top two or three scoring offenses, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna win a ton of games next season.
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Speaker 1: It's a scoring league. I mean, you don't. You're not
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Speaker 1: winning games. This is not the two thousand Ravens. They're not.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're not flip building on defense and winning it,
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Speaker 1: you know seventeen seven anymore. No, but it's a different
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Speaker 1: look for us because remember now for the Jacks. Every
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Speaker 1: time the Jackson has been good has been less about
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Speaker 1: the offense and more about the defense. Saxonville and going
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Speaker 1: all the way back, it's about the defense making plays.
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Speaker 1: This will be a flip because maybe for the first
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Speaker 1: time in franchise history, we're talking about an offense that
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Speaker 1: is high powered. I mean putting points up on the board,
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Speaker 1: lightening it up, and so Jo I give him a
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Speaker 1: hard time. John Oshan is always like, man, let's put
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Speaker 1: it in the air. Well, they're going to put the
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Speaker 1: ball in the air because now the firepower is in
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Speaker 1: place and Doug Peterson is very comfortable with the quarterback
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Speaker 1: to make it happen like that. Bucky, you mentioned something
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Speaker 1: earlier and you know about Calvin Ridley and what to
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Speaker 1: maybe expect from him, and I don't exactly remember what
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Speaker 1: you said, but you said maybe temperate a little bit.
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Speaker 1: What can we expect from Italy? What should fans expect
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Speaker 1: from Itdley in terms of a number or you know,
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Speaker 1: it's his first time on the field and a year
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Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, first, I'm on the field in
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Speaker 1: a year and a half. That's why I say temperate,
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Speaker 1: because he has to knock some of the rust off.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to go that long without playing and kind
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Speaker 1: of hit the ground running. That said, if the Calvin
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Speaker 1: Ridley that is that was last on the field, the
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Speaker 1: one that was the top five in terms of receiving yards,
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Speaker 1: a guy to stepped in and replace Julio Jones as
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Speaker 1: the Falcon's number one receiver. If that guy makes his
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Speaker 1: way to do all, it's gonna be a problem. It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a problem because he is similar to what
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Speaker 1: we have, but a little different. Spectacular route runner, very
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Speaker 1: interchangeable in terms of where he can line up on
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Speaker 1: the field. Terrific pass catcher, and the big plate element
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Speaker 1: could come from Calvin Ridley because not because of the
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Speaker 1: speed factor, but because he is such a route runner.
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Speaker 1: And if he can begin to command attention as a
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Speaker 1: number one, now you'll see Christian kirk in Ingram and
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Speaker 1: Zay Jones. You could see their numbers explode because now
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Speaker 1: defenses have to account for that. Because we remember last year,
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Speaker 1: teams were able to kind of play the Jaguars straight up.
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Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily commit double teams on occasion. Maybe they
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Speaker 1: would go after Evan Ingram, maybe they would kind of
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Speaker 1: do Christian Kirt in the slot. Well, now, if you
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Speaker 1: have to commit a full double team, that means everyone
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Speaker 1: else is in one on one situations. And so let's
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Speaker 1: put it this way. If I'm in the offensive room,
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Speaker 1: what you put up is four one thousand yard numbers,
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Speaker 1: meaning three wide receivers that hit the thousand yard mark
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Speaker 1: Travisy and ten is over a thousand yards rushing. You
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Speaker 1: do those things, now your offense as a byproduct of
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Speaker 1: that production, your offense does get close to thirty points
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Speaker 1: to night. I'm gonna imagine that hasn't happened a whole
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Speaker 1: lot around the league. Right, three thousand yard receivers and
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Speaker 1: a thousand yard rushers, it hasn't happened a lot. I
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Speaker 1: remember the Arizona Cardinals did way way way back. Maybe
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Speaker 1: when Kurt Warner and those guys are then I think
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Speaker 1: that might have been a super Bowl team when they
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Speaker 1: has Stev Recon those guys. But it absolutely can be done.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look at how productive the offense was last
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Speaker 1: year and Doug Peterson's first year. Well, now you know
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Speaker 1: the system, he knows the players, and so instead of
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Speaker 1: installing a generic system, now you're taking the system and
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Speaker 1: you're beginning to tweak it around the talent that you have.
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Speaker 1: And so we'll keep it quiet because we don't want
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Speaker 1: the worst of the NFL to think that we're being
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Speaker 1: like arrogant and cocky or whatever. But the expectation should
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Speaker 1: be that this is going to be a really good
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Speaker 1: Jack's team. Offensively, they're going to light it up, and
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Speaker 1: so there's something that comes with it. I'm excited to see.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, the optimism should be this as team has
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to have three one thousand yards receivers and
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Speaker 1: a thousand yard running back, and if you do that,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna hit the thirty point mark. You heard it
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Speaker 1: here first, Bucky Brooks is calling it and what a
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Speaker 1: season that would be. This is the Huddle Up Podcast.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shaddick, Bucky Brooks, Let's swip in a defense now.
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson at the AFC Coaches Breakfast earlier this week
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Speaker 1: at the NFL Annual Meeting. Priority number one pass rush. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think we got to improve our pass rush. I
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Speaker 1: think that's that's uh, that's vital, particularly on third down.
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Speaker 1: You know, I thought we were we were good in
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Speaker 1: the run. We just got to continue to get better
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Speaker 1: in the run. And and and show up some things there.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think to the passing game is
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Speaker 1: the area that we have to look at and address
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Speaker 1: this offseason. And and um, you know, clean that part
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Speaker 1: of it up. And it all starts up front, putting
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Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback. And whether we're doing that with
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Speaker 1: four guys or five guys, you want to see Treyvon
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Speaker 1: take take that next step in year two. You know,
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Speaker 1: you want to see Josh come along again as an
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Speaker 1: edge rusher, you know, and and and really in his
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Speaker 1: fifth year, you know, make an impact you know with
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Speaker 1: the team, and and um, you know, we're confident that
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Speaker 1: both those guys can do that. We're we were excited
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Speaker 1: to extend Roy, you know, and get him back. And
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Speaker 1: you know, I think I think the Photocosci is a
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Speaker 1: guy that can really make another step in the in
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Speaker 1: the in the right direction within the scheme. And so
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Speaker 1: the pieces are there, and now it's just a matter
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Speaker 1: of continuing to coach and improve in all areas. How
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Speaker 1: does Trayvon Walker take a next step? What does that
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Speaker 1: look like? It's what does that feel like in this
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Speaker 1: offseason for him going in the year two. He's a big, physical,
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Speaker 1: talented guy. But what is the next step and what
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Speaker 1: does that look like for him? The next step is
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Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker understanding who he is as a player and
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Speaker 1: just being the best version of that. It doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that he has to be a double digit sack art
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Speaker 1: off his deaths, not necessarily in his repertoire. It means
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Speaker 1: that each and every time he lines up when we
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Speaker 1: look at forty four, he dominates the game in some
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Speaker 1: former capacity. That might be creating disruptive plays at the
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Speaker 1: point of attack against the run game, that might be
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Speaker 1: dominating and knocking people back so others can make plays.
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Speaker 1: It is being a guy that is worthy of being
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Speaker 1: the number one pick in terms of just impact and disruption,
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Speaker 1: and so a lot of people that have kind of
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Speaker 1: taken him to task in the past and turn of like, hey,
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Speaker 1: he wasn't a high sack producer at Georgia. Is he
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Speaker 1: ever going to be there? Well, let's take that off
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Speaker 1: the table. Can he be a guy that dominates the
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Speaker 1: game as a run defender. Can he be a guy
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Speaker 1: that creates opportunities for others to get it done? He
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Speaker 1: just has to be a dominant player and whatever that
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Speaker 1: looks like for him based on his skill set we
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Speaker 1: can live with, but he just has to be a
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Speaker 1: dominant player. In year two, Bucky, we saw down the
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Speaker 1: stretch Josh Allen's numbers really take off. Sack game, tackles
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Speaker 1: for loss. In the last month of the season, he
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Speaker 1: was all over it for this Jags team. So it's
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Speaker 1: year five for him, obviously a contract year for him
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Speaker 1: coming up. This is all coming together for Josh, but
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Speaker 1: he's never really had that huge breakout season maybe his
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Speaker 1: early years, first year when he went to the Pro Bowl.
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Speaker 1: Other than that, it hasn't been, you know, consistent, Let's
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Speaker 1: put it that way. He's been inconsistent. And how do
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Speaker 1: you build that now in year five? And does that
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Speaker 1: come along with these other guys growing around him as well?
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Speaker 1: It can come together. Another thing that we have to
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Speaker 1: understand a lot of times when we draft players, we
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Speaker 1: draft with them hoping that they will project to be something. Well, now,
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Speaker 1: when guys playing the league, you have to evaluate them
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Speaker 1: and literally view them for what they are. What I
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Speaker 1: would say Josh Allen is is a guy who has
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Speaker 1: the potential to get to ten plus sacks, but he
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Speaker 1: might be a eight to eleven guy his entire career.
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Speaker 1: What he can be. And what he's shown is he
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Speaker 1: can be a productive, high effort player who has a
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Speaker 1: knack for creating turnos. And so, whether that's strip sacks,
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Speaker 1: whether that's scooping scores, whether that's picking off passes, he
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Speaker 1: has to find a way to make his impact felt.
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Speaker 1: As much as I would love for guys to grow
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Speaker 1: and to be dominant pass rushers, it might be something
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Speaker 1: that has to be more schematic, created by design, as
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Speaker 1: opposed to them whipping in winning people in one on
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Speaker 1: one matchups. And so it might be a team to
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Speaker 1: Jags that maybe they only get to forty sacks, but
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Speaker 1: they find a way to create pressure and they take
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Speaker 1: the ball over. And so part of the way that
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Speaker 1: you play on defense is to compliment the offense. And
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Speaker 1: so if in the first part of the podcast we
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Speaker 1: talked about the offense putting up thirty points, yeah, well
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Speaker 1: now defensively is well, let's just Ben, but don't break.
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Speaker 1: Find a way to be great in the red zone,
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Speaker 1: find a way to get a handful of sacks on
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Speaker 1: third down to get off the field. And so your
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Speaker 1: emphasis and your play calling changes to compliment what you
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Speaker 1: do on offense. And so when I talk about Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson maybe putting more pressure on the offense. It's him
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Speaker 1: looking at the roster, looking at the team and saying,
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Speaker 1: the strength of the team is the offense. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: make sure that this offense knows they got to go
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Speaker 1: every week. But I'm gonna be on the defense to
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Speaker 1: understand that your style has to compliment how we play
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Speaker 1: on offense. And one name that that Doug Peterson didn't
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Speaker 1: mention in that bite we just heard was Devin Lloyd
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Speaker 1: and how he could fit in the future of this
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Speaker 1: past rush as well. It's something we didn't see a
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Speaker 1: lot of from him last year. That wasn't his role,
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Speaker 1: but that can always change, and he has an offseason
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Speaker 1: that he's around and available. He missed all the training
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Speaker 1: camp last year. He missed all the training camp, and
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Speaker 1: it has to be one of the top priorities regardless
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Speaker 1: of what people say, like whether you're disappointed in his
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Speaker 1: production as a rookie, whatever, he's the first round pick.
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Speaker 1: You gotta figure out a way to take what he
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Speaker 1: offers and maximize it. And so that is the conversation
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Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson has. A defense coordinator might call, well,
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Speaker 1: how can we put Devin Lloyd in a position where
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Speaker 1: he can impact the game in some capacity. Is that
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Speaker 1: maybe using more sub packages, him coming off the edge,
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Speaker 1: or being an additional pass rusher in these unique and
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Speaker 1: exotic looks. Is it, Hey, maybe he does play more
15:43
Speaker 1: off the ball linebacker and stars, or maybe he doesn't
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Speaker 1: and he's the role player that comes in. He has
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Speaker 1: to have a role that is an imp that allows
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Speaker 1: him to make an impact. In fact, all those second
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Speaker 1: year players taken at the top Trayvon Walker, Devin Lloyd, Chadmuma,
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Speaker 1: they have to make outstanding leaps in terms of growth
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Speaker 1: in their games. They had to be key contributed to season.
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Speaker 1: Well Shod con visited with our compatriot John Ozier, who
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Speaker 1: was in Phoenix this week. He's not with us on
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Speaker 1: the podcast. The interview coming up soon, I think Wednesday
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Speaker 1: the sustainability of the football side. Moving ahead from the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars owner, I think what gives me the confidence of
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Speaker 1: sustainability is, you know, head coach, general manager and the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I think you know they were here for the long haul.
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Speaker 1: And with them, I think, you know, we've lost a
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Speaker 1: couple of players this year's salary cap by you know,
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Speaker 1: I hated to see him leave, but that's really a
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Speaker 1: measure of success that you can't hang on to all
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Speaker 1: your players, you know, and so then obviously the skill,
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Speaker 1: the trick is to replace them, hopefully, you know, with
17:55
Speaker 1: better players. So you know, we've got the draft primarily
18:00
Speaker 1: to develop players for the future and a system that
18:03
Speaker 1: is sustainable. He said it in another part of the interview,
18:06
Speaker 1: Bucky that he felt like he had they had cracked
18:09
Speaker 1: the code. The Jaguars had cracked the code in the NFL.
18:11
Speaker 1: But yeah, head coach, GM, quarterback. It takes time as
18:16
Speaker 1: an owner. I mean, remember he took over in the
18:18
Speaker 1: twenty twelve season, first time as an owner, had not
18:20
Speaker 1: been around the NFL before, and you know he's gone
18:23
Speaker 1: through different iterations of coach and GM and changes and
18:29
Speaker 1: you know, having to fire coaches after a year that's
18:31
Speaker 1: not sustainable. But now he feels like that's a step
18:34
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And obviously with the success at
18:37
Speaker 1: the end of the the last season, it's got to give
18:40
Speaker 1: ownership a lot of positive vibes if you will moving ahead,
18:45
Speaker 1: it does give you a lot of confidence and there's
18:48
Speaker 1: a lot of positivity, not only because of the way
18:51
Speaker 1: the product looked on the field, but I would say
18:54
Speaker 1: the chemistry and the cooperation that appeared to exist between
18:57
Speaker 1: the general manager, hit coach and the quarterback, meaning that
19:00
Speaker 1: trem Balkan Doug Peterson appeared to see the game through
19:03
Speaker 1: the same set of eyes. The players that are brought
19:06
Speaker 1: in matched the system and so you're able to have success.
19:09
Speaker 1: It is carried out by having the right quarterback in
19:12
Speaker 1: place who is able to evolve and become the leader
19:15
Speaker 1: of the team. We have seen a tremendous amount of
19:18
Speaker 1: growth from Trevor Lawrence in terms of being the leader.
19:21
Speaker 1: He was tasked with tough circumstances as a rookie, but
19:24
Speaker 1: really grew throughout his second season where we saw a
19:28
Speaker 1: player who might have been struggling midway through to really
19:32
Speaker 1: take a huge step forward and kind of become not
19:35
Speaker 1: only the leader of the team, but become, let's say,
19:37
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback in this league. Now, the expectation
19:41
Speaker 1: when you have the synergy is how can we take
19:44
Speaker 1: it to the next step. How can the cooperation in
19:48
Speaker 1: chemistry continue with the general manager, head coach, and how
19:50
Speaker 1: can the franchise quarterback make the lead from good to
19:54
Speaker 1: great where he plays like a top five player. Where
19:56
Speaker 1: every time we have a conversation about the quarterbacks, whether
20:00
Speaker 1: it's in the AFC in the league, his name is
20:02
Speaker 1: always included in the ranks or with the ranks of Mahomes, Burrow,
20:08
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and those guys. That's the next up because
20:11
Speaker 1: when you have a tough five quarterback, you always have
20:13
Speaker 1: a chance to compete for the title. That is the goal,
20:15
Speaker 1: and that is part of what you do as a team.
20:18
Speaker 1: Build a team to support the quarterback. Once you have
20:21
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in place, teams from chasing it for
20:24
Speaker 1: a long long time. And you know, Bucky, it could
20:27
Speaker 1: be the other way around too, that this team could
20:30
Speaker 1: be in the ballpark that the Ravens are in right now,
20:35
Speaker 1: trying to deal with what's the future of Lamar Jackson
20:38
Speaker 1: or the Packard. I mean that's the Packers has been
20:40
Speaker 1: in a good place for about twenty five years, but hey,
20:43
Speaker 1: they're in the midst of changing again. The Jets are
20:47
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. I mean, all that is
20:49
Speaker 1: in the headlines. The Jaguars aren't involved in any of that,
20:52
Speaker 1: which is okay, that's a good step, but it is
20:56
Speaker 1: it's priority number one for organizations to get that thing
20:59
Speaker 1: right quarterback, and you'll see what teams will spend and
21:02
Speaker 1: do to get it right, and to get it right
21:05
Speaker 1: in the draft is the best way to go about it.
21:07
Speaker 1: This is what this team has done Yeah, this is
21:10
Speaker 1: what this team has done. So now everyone has to
21:13
Speaker 1: understand and I think Jaguars fans have to know this
21:15
Speaker 1: and they have to get used to the number that
21:18
Speaker 1: could come at the end of next season. If Trevor
21:21
Speaker 1: Lawrence plays well, Trevor Lawrence is going to be a
21:24
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty five million dollar quarterback each year. That's
21:27
Speaker 1: just the going rate. You have to be okay with it.
21:29
Speaker 1: With the deals that are on the horizon. Joe Burrow,
21:32
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Herbert Herbert Herbert, Yeah, what are they gonna get?
21:37
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson will get whatever he's gonna get. The price
21:39
Speaker 1: tag for a marquee quarterback, a franchise quarterback, particularly a
21:43
Speaker 1: good one, is going to be over the fifty million
21:45
Speaker 1: dollar market. So everyone has to understand it. And if
21:47
Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars, you have to make sure. And this
21:50
Speaker 1: is why it's important that the draft picks that we
21:52
Speaker 1: talked about, the Trayvon Walkers, the Devin Lloyd's, the Chad Moments,
21:56
Speaker 1: the guys that are in this twenty three class, you
21:59
Speaker 1: have to hit on those guys because when you pay
22:02
Speaker 1: number sixteen, you're going to have to depend on the newbies.
22:06
Speaker 1: The rookies, the young guys on cheap contracts to make
22:09
Speaker 1: key contributions, and so it changes the dynamic of the team.
22:13
Speaker 1: And so you have to understand it, and everyone has
22:15
Speaker 1: to have this conversation privately in the building. When we
22:19
Speaker 1: pay Trevor Lawrence, we have to make sure that the
22:21
Speaker 1: team is built for a big money quarterback. And so
22:24
Speaker 1: that means we got to make sure that we get
22:26
Speaker 1: the young guys ready to go. We develop those guys.
22:28
Speaker 1: We got to identify which core players are essential to
22:31
Speaker 1: number sixteen playing well. We got to pay those guys,
22:34
Speaker 1: and then we got to continue to figure out a
22:36
Speaker 1: way to win with young players playing in those key
22:39
Speaker 1: areas on both sides of the ball. You know how
22:41
Speaker 1: far fifty million dollars will go in Jacksonville, Florida. I mean,
22:45
Speaker 1: you know you know what I would do. I would
22:47
Speaker 1: say this. I would love for someone to let me
22:50
Speaker 1: have fifty million dollars and let me just experiment and
22:53
Speaker 1: then I can report back. Yeah. In fact, I think
22:55
Speaker 1: that should be a year thing that we can start.
22:57
Speaker 1: That we can just kind of go fund me maybe
23:00
Speaker 1: million knows, and then I can go around Jacksonville for
23:02
Speaker 1: a year. I'll come, I'll moved Like we do it
23:05
Speaker 1: for a year. We just see what it looks like
23:06
Speaker 1: and I can report and blog and like Instagram and
23:10
Speaker 1: chronicle everything that you can win fifty million dollars in
23:14
Speaker 1: Duball County and what it looks like. It'll be a
23:16
Speaker 1: lot of fun, JP, That's what I know. There's no
23:18
Speaker 1: doubt about that fun will be had if you have
23:22
Speaker 1: fifty million bucks. And he'd have it over a long
23:25
Speaker 1: term contract every single year as well. All right, final thought,
23:28
Speaker 1: whether you here, Bucky, it's Pro day season. I know
23:31
Speaker 1: you've been all over on NFL Network when was Ohio State.
23:34
Speaker 1: That was recently and apparently the performance of c J.
23:37
Speaker 1: Stroud was strong enough to move him to the top
23:40
Speaker 1: of your quarterback rankings and that made some waves this week. Well,
23:44
Speaker 1: it only makes ways because when I look at the
23:47
Speaker 1: quarterback spot, you really have to put the line after
23:51
Speaker 1: Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud in whatever order. The reason CJ.
23:54
Speaker 1: Stroud is depicted for me because we talk about our prototypes.
23:57
Speaker 1: You look at the prototype prototypical dimensions, height, weight, arm,
24:01
Speaker 1: talent IQ. He has all those things. He's six two
24:05
Speaker 1: sixty three two twenty plus pounds like that is typically
24:09
Speaker 1: what plays in the league. Bryce Young is special. I
24:12
Speaker 1: mean he's a savant. He has all the IQ, all
24:14
Speaker 1: the things that you look for, the intangible trades, the
24:16
Speaker 1: way he finished his game, the way that he throws them,
24:18
Speaker 1: all of that stuff is great. He tiny though, he's
24:21
Speaker 1: small a little and so when you think about in
24:24
Speaker 1: a big man's game, durability could be an issue. Can
24:27
Speaker 1: he withstand the punishment and the pounding to play the position?
24:31
Speaker 1: If you feel okay with that, I mean, he's gonna
24:33
Speaker 1: be going. Here's what I'm pretty certain of. One of
24:38
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks is gonna be in the division, and so
24:40
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to be able to deal with one
24:42
Speaker 1: of those guys unless something happens in both of those
24:44
Speaker 1: guys end up in division. When we talk about the
24:46
Speaker 1: Houston Texas and Indianapolis culture respectively, but one of those
24:50
Speaker 1: guys is gonna make the win division. So we gotta
24:51
Speaker 1: be ready to defend it. All I know is that
24:54
Speaker 1: when Stroud stands back there and has no pressure, I
24:56
Speaker 1: mean he doesn't miss. I mean he literally asked you
25:00
Speaker 1: can stay. Two years ago in the Horseshoe, he put
25:02
Speaker 1: up like six touchdowns on him, five of them in
25:04
Speaker 1: the first half. It wasn't even a ball game because
25:06
Speaker 1: the guy had no pressure on him all day. And then,
25:10
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Bryce Young in big moments down in
25:13
Speaker 1: game back against the wall, when you need some fourth
25:17
Speaker 1: down throws or you need a drive like, he's your guy.
25:21
Speaker 1: He's got some moxie to him. And you know, he
25:24
Speaker 1: can get guys involved that haven't been involved all game
25:27
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they're they're catching footballs for you.
25:29
Speaker 1: And because he's putting it on a spot even with
25:32
Speaker 1: pressure in his face, I mean that that's something you
25:35
Speaker 1: just can't really teach a lot of that stuff. No,
25:38
Speaker 1: you can't teach. You can't teach this stuff. And you
25:40
Speaker 1: know it's funny because he plays the game in slow
25:43
Speaker 1: motion from the pocket, it is very easy for him.
25:45
Speaker 1: He's great when it comes to delivering the ball and
25:48
Speaker 1: consistently hitting the strikes on. His superpower is really his accuracy,
25:52
Speaker 1: his touch, timing, and anticipation. You can say the same
25:55
Speaker 1: thing about Bryce Young, he just does it in a
25:57
Speaker 1: different way. I've made the comparison that when I look
26:00
Speaker 1: at these two guys, it reminds me of the Golden
26:02
Speaker 1: State Warriors backcourt where you have a shooter and a scorer. CJ.
26:07
Speaker 1: Stroud is the shooter. It is textbook, it is pretty,
26:09
Speaker 1: it's flawless, very much like Clay Thompson. Bryce Young is
26:13
Speaker 1: a scorer. He puts the ball in the basket of
26:15
Speaker 1: variety of ways, much like Steph Curry. And so which
26:20
Speaker 1: one do you want to hit your wagon to when
26:22
Speaker 1: it comes to building your team. Doesn't always look it
26:25
Speaker 1: doesn't look the same, but both guys find a way
26:28
Speaker 1: to get it done. It's just a matter of what
26:29
Speaker 1: you like. Bucky. Later this week the Florida Pro Day.
26:33
Speaker 1: I believe that's Thursday, and I believe you'll have coverage
26:36
Speaker 1: of that on NFL Network. And that brings up AAnthony
26:38
Speaker 1: Richardson in this discussion as well. Is he gonna actually
26:42
Speaker 1: do Pro Day or not? What's his deal? Yeah, he's
26:44
Speaker 1: doing Pro Day because there are a lot of people
26:46
Speaker 1: that are fascinated about him. I think the funny thing, guys,
26:50
Speaker 1: our listeners and people down and do all County. You're
26:53
Speaker 1: certainly familiar with him because he's right down the block
26:55
Speaker 1: in Gainesville, And so the conversation outside of the they're
27:00
Speaker 1: talking about him is if he's Cam Newton and one
27:03
Speaker 1: of the greats that we've seen, and he's gonna be
27:05
Speaker 1: a top five player and he's gonna take over the
27:08
Speaker 1: league because he's six four, two hundred forty four pounds,
27:10
Speaker 1: runs a four to forty three, has a big time arm,
27:13
Speaker 1: and he make plays. The issue that I have is
27:16
Speaker 1: when you look at how he played in the SEC,
27:19
Speaker 1: those traits and attributes haven't popped, and so you're really
27:23
Speaker 1: gambling that he is going to be something that he
27:26
Speaker 1: hasn't shown to this point. Unlike Cam Newton, who was
27:29
Speaker 1: the most dominant player in the SEC when he came
27:32
Speaker 1: out that season in Auburn, who won the Heisman Trophy,
27:36
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson doesn't have that. Cam Newton won a national
27:39
Speaker 1: title with a team that only had one other pro
27:42
Speaker 1: and Nick Fairley shoot even Janna Hurts. Jayla Hurst was
27:46
Speaker 1: what SEC Offensive Player of the Years a freshman, he
27:49
Speaker 1: was a Deshaun Watson two minute drive away from stealing
27:52
Speaker 1: the game with a walk off win. Jendon Hurst had
27:54
Speaker 1: more rushing yards and touchdowns and all of that. And
27:57
Speaker 1: so it is interesting because I'm trying to figure out
28:01
Speaker 1: if this is fluff where people are just selling Anthony
28:04
Speaker 1: Risuson as a top five or do we really have
28:06
Speaker 1: people that believe he's a top five talent and someone
28:09
Speaker 1: is going to hand in that car because we talked
28:12
Speaker 1: about it. He might end up in a division if
28:14
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Coast maybe make that move at four for him,
28:19
Speaker 1: and oh boy, that'd be something to see. He's had
28:23
Speaker 1: big moments, but no offense to South Florida. They've come
28:27
Speaker 1: against teams like South Florida where he's running for eighty
28:29
Speaker 1: yard touchdowns and throwing for seventy five yarders. Unto your point,
28:33
Speaker 1: the weeks after that against big SEC opponents not quite there.
28:37
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that translates moving ahead. We'll look
28:40
Speaker 1: forward to that Pro day on Thursday. Bucket. It's always
28:43
Speaker 1: a pleasure. Great to be back with you. It's been
28:45
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. We'll hey, let's do it again
28:47
Speaker 1: next week. Hey man, let's do it man, It's gonna
28:50
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