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The Rita Panahi Show | 7 July · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On Scarletan's Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Davis is the Rita Panahy Show.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita panhe Show. I'm
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  Speaker 3: James Morrow filling in for Rita this week. Here's what's
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  Speaker 3: coming up tonight. China plays down its missile test in
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  Speaker 3: the Pacific, calling it merely routine. Well, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: about that. My panel doesn't know either. We're gonna join
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  Speaker 3: me to discuss this in all the day's top headlines.
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  Speaker 3: Shortly plus employers raise concern over Chris Poe's intervention in
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  Speaker 3: the gas market. Ian Plimer will be here to give
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  Speaker 3: us all the details, and Kosha Gata has the latest
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  Speaker 3: from the US, including the sexual assault allegations against Democrat
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  Speaker 3: Maine candidate Graham Plattner and Charlie Kirk's alleged killer, Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Robinson faces a five day preliminary hearing. James Bolt will
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  Speaker 3: have all the details on that right here with me
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  Speaker 3: on set. And that's not enough left He's losing it
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  Speaker 3: having some very peaceful and tolerant times in this segment.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Anyway, onto the headlines. The nuclear capable missile
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  Speaker 3: that China test fired from a submarine yesterday flew over
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  Speaker 3: multiple Pacific nations and appears to have hit waters close
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  Speaker 3: to Tuvalu. Now. The missile was fired just after Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Albanzi signed the Oceans of Peace agreement with Fiji. China
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  Speaker 3: had called the launch routine, but Richard Marles and Petty
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  Speaker 3: Wong have branded the move as destabilizing. Joining me now
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  Speaker 3: to discuss this and more is News Corps senior writer
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  Speaker 3: Patrick Carlyon and Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harkin.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick will start with you here. I kind of thought
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  Speaker 3: that Alberanizi had stabilized the relationship with China, at least
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  Speaker 3: that's what he told me. This seems a bit destabilizing.
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  Speaker 4: Frankly, Look, Australia's placed and this was described by somebody
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  Speaker 4: as road kill in the sense that there are much
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  Speaker 4: bigger issues here than Australia regional security and what's happening
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  Speaker 4: in Fiji with alban Easy over the past couple of days.
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  Speaker 4: I think the key word here is intercontinental, and that's
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  Speaker 4: what this missile represents. It means China could actually hit
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  Speaker 4: the US mainland if it came to it, and I
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  Speaker 4: think Australia's place in it. I mean, our security is critical.
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  Speaker 4: China's going to set up military outposts on our doorstead
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  Speaker 4: then that's a massive deal. But we're not the main
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  Speaker 4: story here. This is all about the US versus China.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. But you know, Colleen, this is a disturbing thing
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  Speaker 3: to have happened just coincidentally when this pact has just
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  Speaker 3: been signed. Mike Pozillo, the former intelligence chief, he has
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  Speaker 3: said that, well, we need to be sure that this
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  Speaker 3: wasn't just a coincidence here. You know, such a test
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  Speaker 3: takes time to set up, there have to be ships
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  Speaker 3: down range to track it for telemetory and so on.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that this could have been a deliberate
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  Speaker 3: signal timed with intelligence China have obtained about this deal
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  Speaker 3: being signed to also send a signal to the South
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  Speaker 3: Pacific and Australia about the growing security packs that have
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  Speaker 3: been signed here in the Pacific.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, probably all of the above is an
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  Speaker 5: issue to concern ourselves with, because to see a long
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  Speaker 5: range missile in our neighborly waters has got to kind
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  Speaker 5: of be the warning shot to say that the old
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  Speaker 5: idea that our geographic and isolated location was somehow part
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  Speaker 5: of our security consciousness is.
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  Speaker 6: That has to end.
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  Speaker 5: That illusion has to end, and we have to get
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  Speaker 5: much more serious about our security, in our defense relationships
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  Speaker 5: with our alliances and our own sovereign defense mechanisms that
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  Speaker 5: we have.
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  Speaker 6: So we sort of seem to.
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  Speaker 5: Have been a bit sort of lassez fair for a
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  Speaker 5: very long time about what we consider we need or
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  Speaker 5: we don't need. And I think this is an absolute
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  Speaker 5: warning shot to say we have to get serious about
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  Speaker 5: how we are up skill our defense mechanisms.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and Patrick, you know, I just want to stick
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  Speaker 3: with you for one second on this topic here because
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  Speaker 3: it is I think very important. Richard Morrel's the Defense
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  Speaker 3: Secretary and also acting PM while the PM is away,
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  Speaker 3: said that this just shows that we have to be ready.
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  Speaker 3: But the implication of his statement is that we are ready.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we're anywhere near close to ready. If
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  Speaker 3: China really decides to act up in the Pacific.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, we're near it, are we, James. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 4: we might be getting three subs in what eight years
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  Speaker 4: time with something China has been you know, saber rattling,
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  Speaker 4: you know, throughout the Pacific for a long time, and
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  Speaker 4: this is an escalation I think to describe his routine
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  Speaker 4: is silly. It sort of it brings a US into
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  Speaker 4: the equation and Australia's place, as Colin a rightly point
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  Speaker 4: of that we're not protected by our isolation anymore. This
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  Speaker 4: missile proves it. These are really dangerous times. We need
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  Speaker 4: to be talking about it, and we need to have
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  Speaker 4: a defense budget that recognize this is the threat at
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  Speaker 4: a door.
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  Speaker 3: And yet we didn't see anything like that come out
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  Speaker 3: of that May twelve budget, which we're still talking about.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that it's had the capability to blow
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  Speaker 3: up is house prices. But anyway, moving on, labor is
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  Speaker 3: down a bit of hot water after new data has
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  Speaker 3: revealed that Australia's migration program is oh who knew, actually
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  Speaker 3: propped up by family members and not the skilled migrants
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  Speaker 3: or workforce needs. Now, Colleen, I'll start with you on
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  Speaker 3: this because the Instite of Public Affairs has done analysis
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  Speaker 3: great analysis for the Department of Home Affairs data from
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four to twenty five. We've got that in
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  Speaker 3: the Daily Telegraph today and found that one of the
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty two thousand, one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 3: eight permanent skilled visas granted over a twelve month period,
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  Speaker 3: only about thirty three percent actually went to someone approved
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  Speaker 3: as skilled. Colleen, what can you tell us about this
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  Speaker 3: and shouldn't we be focusing more on actually training Australians
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  Speaker 3: to get jobs rather than to simply looking over is.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a great work of my colleague, doctor Kevin.
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  Speaker 5: You you know one hundred and eighty five thousand permanent
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  Speaker 5: skilled migrant visas, seventy one percent of those. I think
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  Speaker 5: the average Australian thinks that that means that seventy one
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  Speaker 5: percent of those people are the skilled migrants. And when
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  Speaker 5: you find out that less well less than half of
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  Speaker 5: them are the skilled people and the rest of them
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  Speaker 5: as family members and people connected with I think people
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  Speaker 5: are very surprised to understand how those stats work out.
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  Speaker 5: The other thing little as a side issue here, one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and eighty five thousand permanent visa given out in
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  Speaker 5: that year.
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  Speaker 6: Is still double what it used to be.
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  Speaker 5: We still used to have one hundred thousand immigrants every
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  Speaker 5: year for basically the whole of the twenty first century,
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  Speaker 5: a twentieth century until the end of the Howard era,
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  Speaker 5: So even at those numbers, it is still double what
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  Speaker 5: we had when we were consider ourselves a successful immigration cohort.
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  Speaker 6: But the average austrated I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Sure has no understanding about how those numbers are being manipulated.
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  Speaker 6: And it is genuinely a con.
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  Speaker 5: Because what we keep getting told is that we need
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  Speaker 5: these immigrants to fill these jobs, but we're not importing
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  Speaker 5: skilled immigrants to feel whatever these jobs might happen to be.
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  Speaker 5: We still have huge vacancies in skilled areas, and we
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  Speaker 5: have hundreds of thousands of people coming in who are
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  Speaker 5: not skilled.
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  Speaker 3: And not only that we're not doing enough to train
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  Speaker 3: our own local people here, that we're producing ourselves to
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  Speaker 3: become skilled workers themselves. But Patrick, this seems like it
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  Speaker 3: politically could have a lot of potency because it gets
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  Speaker 3: the debate about migration off of the field of monoculture
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  Speaker 3: versus multiculturalism, which is quite contested and contentious and has,
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  Speaker 3: let's be honest with about it, a fair bit of
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  Speaker 3: baggage around it. This is very pragmatic data here that
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  Speaker 3: I think that if the Liberal Party wanted to hook
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  Speaker 3: into it would be a pretty powerful thing for them
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  Speaker 3: to campaign on. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I think the other point too, is the
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  Speaker 4: skilled migrant program takes in something like four hundred and
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  Speaker 4: eighty occupations in theory. And you know, we like to
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  Speaker 4: think if we're getting schooled workers, they're going to be
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  Speaker 4: electricians or plumbers or carpenters, people who are going to
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  Speaker 4: build stuff. And I mean the numbers are nowhere near
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  Speaker 4: where we thought they were. The political retric has been
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  Speaker 4: we're bringing in all these skilled migrants. Well less than
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  Speaker 4: half of those who come and come in on a
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  Speaker 4: skilled migrant visa are actually skilled workers, and a lot
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  Speaker 4: of them marn't tradees. We need people to build stuff.
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  Speaker 4: This is very eliminating.
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  Speaker 3: It's really interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yes, it does play to the electric Look.
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  Speaker 3: I just think that you know, when you have this
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  Speaker 3: idea that not only are the people doing the things
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  Speaker 3: they're supposed to, but that they're bringing with them people
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  Speaker 3: who are for the imposts on our infrastructure, I just
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  Speaker 3: think it's so deadly for liver. But they seem to
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  Speaker 3: be getting away with it for now. But it is
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  Speaker 3: a good question, though, how long? Because we've got other news.
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  Speaker 3: It suggests that Australia is set for its longest stretch
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  Speaker 3: of subpart can growth in more than thirty five years.
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  Speaker 3: Deloitte Access Economics has downgraded its real economic growth forecasts
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  Speaker 3: for Australia to one point three percent for the financial year.
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  Speaker 3: And not only that, they say growth is going to
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  Speaker 3: stay below two percent for the longest period since the
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  Speaker 3: global recession of the early nineteen nineties. Colleen, this is
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  Speaker 3: just horrific news. We've also seen the news that well,
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  Speaker 3: we've been in a per capita recession for ten of
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  Speaker 3: the last fifteen quarters, that our inflation is almost the
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  Speaker 3: highest in the developed world short of Iceland. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to keep getting poorer and poorer every week so long
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  Speaker 3: as this goes on relative to the rest of the world,
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  Speaker 3: aren't we.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely?
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  Speaker 5: And I think the average person on the street can
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  Speaker 5: feel it. We can feel that our standard of living
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  Speaker 5: is decreasing. The cost of living is an extraordinary burden
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  Speaker 5: on people.
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  Speaker 6: And the shocking part about.
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  Speaker 5: This is that we don't have to be This is
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  Speaker 5: all self inflicted. And so I think that level of
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  Speaker 5: frustration amongst people and the desire to see change is
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  Speaker 5: growing stronger every day. Because we used to have the
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  Speaker 5: cheapest energy in the world, we used to have one
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  Speaker 5: of the highest standards of living in the world, and
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  Speaker 5: we can sort of feel that we are literally going backwards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Patrick, you know, as you might know, I
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  Speaker 3: travel to the United States probably at least once a year.
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  Speaker 3: Every time I've gone back, it does feel like that
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  Speaker 3: country is getting richer compared to us, that we are
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  Speaker 3: falling behind again, potent electoral material for a party that
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  Speaker 3: wants to talk about it.
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  Speaker 7: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: And look, we are that we consider ourselves the lucky country,
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  Speaker 4: but we have blown in so many ways in recent years.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't have growth, your standards are living are
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  Speaker 4: going to drop. It's that simple, and we're feeling it,
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  Speaker 4: as Colleen says, you know, whether it's power prices. We've
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  Speaker 4: got all this stuff in the ground that we export
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  Speaker 4: to the rest of the world, but we pay the
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  Speaker 4: highest prices in the world. This is certainly going to
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  Speaker 4: come to bear politically as a guy's on because it
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't be happening.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, you're right. I've also been fascinated too by some
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  Speaker 3: of the goings on that have come out of the
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  Speaker 3: big labor conference that they've just had, and we read
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  Speaker 3: today in The Australian that labor has dropped pressure on
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  Speaker 3: Hamas to disarm, as well as pressure on the Palestinadian
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  Speaker 3: authority to reform and guarantee Israel security in the latest
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  Speaker 3: draft of its official policy platform, and almost all the pressure,
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  Speaker 3: not surprisingly, in their new governing document goes to the
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  Speaker 3: Democrat state Democratic State of Israel again not surprisingly. Now
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  Speaker 3: this is quite startling, Colleen, given that when they made
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  Speaker 3: that move to unilaterally recognize the Palestinian authority in the
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian State, they said, oh no, no, no, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to put all this pressure on. But now it seems
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  Speaker 3: like the left of the party is just one and said,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, no, no, no, no, it's okay. We're just gonna We're
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  Speaker 3: to let them keep doing whatever they do and move on.
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  Speaker 5: It's very worrying because the early and inappropriately early recognition
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  Speaker 5: of the State of Palestine, I think, was an insight
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  Speaker 5: into how the factions within the Labor Party think and
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  Speaker 5: to sort of see the left side of that faction
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  Speaker 5: having won that argument effectively from a policy perspective, is
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  Speaker 5: a great concern. Her Mass is a terrorist organization and
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  Speaker 5: there is nothing about Australia that should be recognizing or
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  Speaker 5: feeling cozy with them, no matter what political party or
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  Speaker 5: you know, ideological perspective. You know, we have we have
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  Speaker 5: to maintain our own security and having ambitions or conversations
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  Speaker 5: or thought bubbles that sort of lean.
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  Speaker 6: In that way are very worrying for our country.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting to be Patrick because I
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  Speaker 3: know that at this conference, Anthony Albernezi, although he is
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  Speaker 3: himself a man of the left, you know, he always
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  Speaker 3: tries to fend off these very far left sort of
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  Speaker 3: motions on you know, Guasa and things like that or
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  Speaker 3: what over the area is. But it seems like he's
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  Speaker 3: failed to be able to control this. Now we speak
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  Speaker 3: a lot about right wing populism, you know, being a
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  Speaker 3: phenomenal around the world, but is Australia starting to catch
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  Speaker 3: a bit of the wave of left wing populism that
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  Speaker 3: we've seen in places like say the United States, where
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  Speaker 3: Democrats socialists are running rampant through the Democrat Party. Is
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  Speaker 3: this sort of hard left vibe going to start to
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  Speaker 3: be a real problem, not so much for the right
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  Speaker 3: of politics, but now for established labor.
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  Speaker 4: Oh look, I think it's already a problem for the
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  Speaker 4: Jewish people in Australia. I mean the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 4: this has been going on for years now to be
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  Speaker 4: anti Israel somehow makes it okay to be anti Semitic,
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  Speaker 4: I would argue in so many instances and the two
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  Speaker 4: get confused. We're talking about an Israeli government rather than
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  Speaker 4: the Jewish people of Australia. And I think the Jews
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  Speaker 4: have really suffered for that, dreadfully. And big part of
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  Speaker 4: that problem is a lack of leadership from people like
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  Speaker 4: the Prime minister.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's right. I just want to just chat
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  Speaker 3: very quickly about some new revelations from Paul Kelly and
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  Speaker 3: The Australian. John Howard has opened up about what he
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  Speaker 3: called the failures of the Liberal Party, declaring that all
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  Speaker 3: three Liberal prime ministers of the Abbot, Turnville Morrison era
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  Speaker 3: failed the leadership test. Now he's made these comments size
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  Speaker 3: part of Paul Kelly's new book, The Twilight of Exceptionistism Exceptionalism. Sorry, Colleen,
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  Speaker 3: does the form PM have a point?
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 5: I think the real problem that the Liberal Party has
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  Speaker 5: experienced is a lack of conviction to policy. It's not
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  Speaker 5: so much about you know, leadership. I think people have
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  Speaker 5: been looking for the leaders to show the way about
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  Speaker 5: what the policies are. I think they lost courage about
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  Speaker 5: who they are and what they stand for. I know,
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  Speaker 5: John Howard is a highly held previous Prime minister and
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  Speaker 5: amongst Liberal Party members he's you know, like God likes
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  Speaker 5: sort of really, but I think he's sort of actually
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  Speaker 5: missing the point here. The problem with the Liberal Party
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  Speaker 5: is not looking for a new messiah. It doesn't need
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  Speaker 5: a new leader. It actually needs and for the last
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  Speaker 5: ten years or so has lost its courage is you know,
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  Speaker 5: convictions about who it is and what it stands for
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  Speaker 5: and what it's offering is to the electorate. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: the leader is obviously an important component. It's the face
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  Speaker 5: of the brand and all of that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the problems have been greater than just
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  Speaker 5: the leader.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think there's three words that sum up that
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  Speaker 3: the problems with that turn of there, Malcolm blind turnbull folks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm afraid the clock is telling me. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: have to let you have the last word, Colleen on that.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Patrick, Colleen, I'll speak you soon. Well.
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  Speaker 3: Employers and business groups have raised a raft of concern
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  Speaker 3: over Chris Bowen's latest intervention into the gas market. The
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  Speaker 3: government's new scheme would mandate twenty percent of all LNG
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  Speaker 3: exports to be supplied to domestic users now Darwin Darwin
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  Speaker 3: Major Business Group has argued the Northern Territories Beeloo should
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  Speaker 3: be grandfathered until twenty forty from this domestic gas reservation
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  Speaker 3: obligation during its establishment phase. Joining me now to explain
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  Speaker 3: what all this is about and why the government I
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  Speaker 3: suspect has got it wrong again is Esteemed a geologist,
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  Speaker 3: author and executive director at Hancock Energy, Professor Ian Plymer, Professor.
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  Speaker 3: Hasn't the government done enough meddling in every other market
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  Speaker 3: in this country? Do they really need to do this
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  Speaker 3: to our gas?
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  Speaker 8: Well?
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  Speaker 9: I continue to get things wrong. They've meddled in the
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  Speaker 9: gas market and they'll get it wrong now. There's a
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  Speaker 9: good reason for the meddling in the gas market, and
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  Speaker 9: that is that Tim Ayres and Chris Bowe, good faithful
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  Speaker 9: unionists trying to take Queensland gas to come into some
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  Speaker 9: of the really heavy industries where their cost has gone
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  Speaker 9: up due to IR laws.
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  Speaker 8: They've gone up due to the union costs.
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  Speaker 9: They've gone up to the because the iopay's energy policy,
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  Speaker 9: and these heavy industries are like le clothes, a lot
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  Speaker 9: of unionists would lose their jobs. So what they're doing
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  Speaker 9: is the pinching gas from Queensland and putting it into
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  Speaker 9: the pipelines such as New South Wales and Victoria who
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  Speaker 9: don't want to actually explore for gas. They don't want
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  Speaker 9: to develop their own gas, so they can pinch Queensland
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  Speaker 9: gas at a cheap price. Now they don't seem to
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  Speaker 9: realize what they're doing for foreign investors. I give the
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  Speaker 9: example of Korea. Now, Korea takes about one point four
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  Speaker 9: million tons a year of LNG each year, Australia takes
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  Speaker 9: about one point six million tons of oil products, liquid fuels,
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  Speaker 9: aviation fuel, diesel and petrol.
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  Speaker 8: This is the way international markets work.
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  Speaker 9: Now, if we start cutting out the supplies of l
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  Speaker 9: ANDNG to Coorea, what is the chance that we're going
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  Speaker 9: to run out of petrol or diesel in this country.
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  Speaker 9: So Queensland already as its reservation policy. Investors know exactly
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  Speaker 9: what they want to do before they actually apply for tenements.
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: New South Wales has got stacks of gas around now right,
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: Victoria's got stacks of gas. So why is it that
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: these states through the ALP and now penalizing Queensland who
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: have successfully found gas and are exporting it. The last
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: point is that The pipeline just doesn't carry the gas
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: to Victoria. It's not big enough, so you can't actually
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: have Victorian industry use Queensland gas. Victoria has to generate
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: its own gas. It's got stacks of it. It's about
• 18:31
  Speaker 9: time they got off their bum and started to drill
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: wells in Victoria and use their own gas.
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: We know it's there.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: It is absolutely infuriating, especially when you know that in Victoria.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're the geologist here, but that gas is
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: pretty close to the surface. It's not hard to get to,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: is it in Victoria.
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: I've seen in the Warmbtfield and the gip Plan area.
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: On shore, I've seen wells flaring. This is when they're
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: burning off the gas. There is stats of gas in Gipsland.
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: There's still stacks of gas to be retrieved offshore in Gippsland.
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: A lot of that could be retrieved by fracking.
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: There's a lot of Monshure gas in the Otway basin
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: and there's offshore gas now. It's about time Victoria woke
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: up to itself and provided its own gas. And I
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: don't see why we should be penalizing Queensland gas companies
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: who have.
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: Done the right thing where they already.
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: Have a gas reservation policy just because Victoria and New
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: South Wales want to keep the unions happy with heavy
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: industries that have destroyed the gas industry elsewhere in their
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: own states.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: And it is all part of this doctrine of self
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: harm that they call climate change. And what's why I
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: wanted to bring up to you this absurd column in
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: the nine newspapers by Peter Harsher. Now the headline on
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: this says the world is fulfilling the curve carbon and
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: we may be close to a scorched earth flipping point.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: And then the column went on to attack Trump's drill
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: baby drill regime, saying without more global polugar will drilling
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: ourselves to death in the mirror of meteorologists called them
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: supposely hot and dry on Nino. I'm in Sydney, where
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: it's been called spinning rain for two weeks. I'm sick
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: of this alarmism. I don't know about you. What do
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you think, well, James.
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: If you read the Socialist Marning Herald out of Sydney,
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: you'll end up with brain damage, So please refrain. The
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: second thing is that this is just hypermole we have
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: in the geological past times when there's been thousands of
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: times more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and what do
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: we have We had ice ages. So this is absolute
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: nonsense that we're being fed. It's trying to scare people, witness.
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: It's trying to say out policies on energy have failed,
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: but we're going to continue with them because we are
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: right no matter what the evidence says.
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: So keep away from the media like the nine newspapers.
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: You will do yourself some severe damage and you might
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: have to repair that with a couple of good strong drinks.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Well, yes, I often follow that regime, but I do
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: also have a special helmet. I wear a professor when
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I'm in the Herald, just to keep myself from injuring
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: myself too much. But finally, quickly, the World Bank has
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: announced plans to reserve, and call me cynical about this
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: here a large portion of its lending for projects to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: alleviate climate change and its effects. But also we've now
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: discovered that it's been revealed that the World Bank has
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: ditched its own climate targets. In am I write to
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: be cynical that this is just all part of the grift.
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: Well, it's very much part of the grift and to
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: get a job in the World Bank, you have to
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: have green credentials. The last thing you could have would
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: be scientific credentials or economic credentials. And the green credentials
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: eventually come back to bite you. They don't work. And
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: we've seen that over the last twenty five years. And
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: finally the World Bank is waking up to the fact
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: that they're going to lose money if they invest in
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: green projects.
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: It's happened in Australia, it's.
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: Happened worldwide, and the World Bank is very, very slow
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: to wake up to the fact that carbon dioxide is
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: the gas of life. That it's never then shown that
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: how many missions of cavadots on drive climate change?
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: And I better get on with life.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Fresh ree and plymb we're going to have leeve with there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time for that great
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: flag in the background. Absolutely love it and we'll catch
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: up soon. Thanks so much. Still to come lefties losing
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: it plus all the ladies from the US, including sexual
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: assault allegations against Democrat candidate Graham Plattner. Koshagata tells us
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: all about it next. Now it's time for a bit
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: of lefties losing it. And let's cut to the chase
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: right here. You know the whole thing about the tolerant,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: peace loving left that we talk about so much, the
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: ones who abhor violence and live in a fanciful world
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: of peace, love and mung beans. Yeah about that. Meet
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Richard o'heada. He is a Democrat running for Congress in
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the US state of North Carolina. And well, he's so
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: peace loving we might as well call him Mahatma Gandhi.
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: And this is something that we cannot tolerate. This is
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: the United States of America. We are losing more and
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: more rights every single day, and the only way we
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: get rights back is for fighting for them. That's it,
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: bleeding for them, dying for them.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: That guy would be hell to sit next to you
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: on the bus. Meanwhile, in Nevada, Representative Susie Lee has
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: some bizarre fantasies about what you'd like to do to
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. And again, can't you just
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: feel the tolerance? Comes in front of my committee now, listen,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: it's so easy. It's just like you, why are these
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: people so angry all the time? Well, I can think
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: of a few reasons, but maybe the fact that the
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Democrats are now being taken over by hard left communists
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and they don't know what to do about it is
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: one of them. Here's Virginia Governor Abigail Spanberger taking learning
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: to love big comedy.
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: Some of the party's biggest primary victories recently New York
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: now Colorado have gone to candidate's running more progressive agenda.
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: I mean, are you concerned that the left is gaining
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: power in your party?
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: I'm of the opinion that we are a big ten party.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: We've always been a big ten party.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Big tents, say the lines, say the lines, Abigail, I mean, look,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: she was pretty chill there, but I think she knows
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: what's coming. And for a sneak peek at what Democrat
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Coxes could soon look like across the USA, let's go
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: to the streets of Washington, d C. Where this independent
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: reporter who posts as serge Philly encountered some lovely Antifa
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: types out celebrating the fourth of July.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, property, she seems dice.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Here's the craziest bit, Serge Philly, he got in
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: trouble for filled with all this.
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: This is public property, journalists, so take the exactly well,
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: it's a permanent event.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: You want to go back and just.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Say this, it's a permanent event. You can this us.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: It's a permanent event, doesn't mean it's public property.
• 25:32
  Speaker 12: You're going that side, industry, public station.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: It's public property. We're gonna go to jail. I'm not
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: pushing to tell you walk industry.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, where do I have to walk on this side?
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: On this line? Okay, on this line. You can trail
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: it right here as much as you want to wait.
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: First Amendment Communication team. He's the First Amendment Communication team
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: stopping me from covering an event on public property.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Remember, kids, nineteen eighty four was a warning, not an
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: instruction book. And while Jasmine Crockett is up to her
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: old tricks blaming racism for her loss in Texas.
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: You see a lot of hater's got a lot of
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: things to say about me and my race and how
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: I ran it. But the reality is that there was
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: a lot of racist, not a lot.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: It was racist. It was a racist race. It is
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: what it is.
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 26:17
  Speaker 13: But we live in America, as y'all are celebrating two fifty, Okay,
• 26:20
  Speaker 13: we know what this country is.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Sure, girl, you keep telling yourself that Finally, remember Chuck Todd,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: the failed NBC Meet the Press host who's now off
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: doing podcasts. Well, he's done it. He's literally shaking right now.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: He did the meme.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm so angry and feel betrayed.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I feel be trade as an American by him on.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: This constitution is not perfect, but it gives us a
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: way to keep going. It gives a structure for disagreement.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It gives us a method for repair. It gives us
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the possibility of becoming better without pretending we are always good.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It makes some of the same promises that some religious
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: texts do for people. And this is why I'm so
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: pissed off.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Jeez, lefties never change well. Democrat Maine Senate nominee Graham
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Plattner is facing calls from Democrats to immediately end his
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: campaign following an allegation of rape from a woman he
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: previously dated. Forty one year old Main Resident Jenny Rediho
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: detailed the alleged incident in Politico. Platner has denied the
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: allegations and released this video.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to directly address the troubling, serious and false
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: allegations against me. Any accusation of non consensual behavior is
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: categorically false. So regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: but mindful of political reality it will inflect. We are
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: taking the time to reflect on the best path forward
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for the state that I love, of the people that
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I love, the movement I belong to, and the goal
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: of defeating Susan.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Collins, a butt Senate Democrat leader Chuck Schumer has called
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: the allegations incredibly disturbing and said that Graham Plattner needs
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to immediately withdraw as a Democratic nominee for Senate and
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: allow main Democrats to operate the opportunity to choose a
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: new candidate who can defeat the main Republican senator, Susan Collins.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: The d SEC will not invest in the main Senate
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: race if Platner remains on the ballot. Well, there's a
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: lot more to this to discuss, and joining me now
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: is Sky News contributor Kosha Gata Kosha. This is just
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the latest hit to the Platiner campaign. Now, Platner, for
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: those who have been following, was this guy the Democrats
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: brought on as a sort of a rough and ready
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: oyster farmer from Maine who turns out to have a
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: lot of baggage, including apparent Nazi tattoo, all sorts of
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: troubling history with women, including now latest this rape allegations.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: How did the Democrats wind up with somebody with more
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: red flags in a Chinese army parade being their Senate nominee.
• 29:11
  Speaker 14: You know, James, I always say that we are now
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: in this post candidacy environment in American elections increasingly where
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: the party machine is the thing that drives everything and
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: not so much the candidate. And that's why you wind
• 29:25
  Speaker 14: up in a situation like this, more red flags and
• 29:28
  Speaker 14: a Chinese parade, as you say, or of course, the
• 29:30
  Speaker 14: most infamous situation was Joe Biden and case in point,
• 29:33
  Speaker 14: until it was absolutely impossible to ignore, and then they
• 29:36
  Speaker 14: had to scramble, and Nancy Pelosi did what Chuck Schumer
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: here is trying to do at some point and did
• 29:42
  Speaker 14: that switcheroo with Kamala Harris. So this now seems to
• 29:45
  Speaker 14: keep happening. And notwithstanding that, as we know from the
• 29:49
  Speaker 14: Biden Kamala Harris election, she still came very very close.
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: And here, even if the party does not succeed in
• 29:56
  Speaker 14: removing him, as his candidacy continues to take hits and
• 30:00
  Speaker 14: show chinks in the armor. Believe us. We absolutely do
• 30:04
  Speaker 14: know that he is going to come very very close,
• 30:06
  Speaker 14: if not win this. It's a very blue part of Maine.
• 30:08
  Speaker 14: Susan Collins has been hanging by by a thread for
• 30:10
  Speaker 14: many many cycles, and that I think is.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: The more incredulous thing.
• 30:14
  Speaker 14: But you know, it just reflects where the nation is
• 30:16
  Speaker 14: and where the parties are well.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: And one of the shocking things Kosha in the Politico
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: report was that the alleged victim of this rape said
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: that she hesitated in reporting it because she agreed with
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: his politics, which just tells me how bizarre a space
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: we're in here. But Kosha, does the Democrat Party have
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: a broader problem with men here? Because they keep trying
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to get these very normal male candidates, and yet because
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I think they have spent so much time demonizing, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: straight white males, they wind up with people who are
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: very odd, whether it's platiner or in a different way,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: James tall Rico in Texas who has a lot of
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: crazy beliefs, and we all remember Tim Waltz, who they
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: put up as a paragot of masculinity torn with Kamala
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Harris back in twenty four. Is there a problem that
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: they have with men and male candidates because they spent
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: so much time demonizing them.
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: I think that's an astute point for sure. At some
• 31:13
  Speaker 14: point the machine and the Frankenstein monster, if you will,
• 31:16
  Speaker 14: that they've created does come back to bite them, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 14: you are still ultimately running in a general half the
• 31:22
  Speaker 14: country is male. They do vote, and they do not
• 31:25
  Speaker 14: appreciate even this ultra left wing ones probably on some
• 31:27
  Speaker 14: level don't appreciate being demonized for the better part of
• 31:30
  Speaker 14: the last quarter century. And then I think what happens
• 31:33
  Speaker 14: is they put together these people who, on the surface,
• 31:36
  Speaker 14: the packaging sounds good, you know, the midwestern dad as
• 31:40
  Speaker 14: you said, Tim Waaltas's case, or here, you know he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 14: a former or he's a veteran military guy. You know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 14: all those things sound good. But then you peel back
• 31:48
  Speaker 14: a little bit beneath it, and there's a lot of stuff,
• 31:51
  Speaker 14: whether it's stolen valor and Tim Walds's case, Taylerico, who
• 31:54
  Speaker 14: just is the gift that keeps giving, and now this
• 31:56
  Speaker 14: guy as well over here, and then you just rely
• 31:59
  Speaker 14: on the party machinery and the built in allegiances. As
• 32:03
  Speaker 14: you mentioned, the accuser, you know, being case in point
• 32:05
  Speaker 14: as well, that she wanted to take one for the
• 32:08
  Speaker 14: team and not come forward with the allegations because of
• 32:10
  Speaker 14: her politics. That might just carry some of these candidates
• 32:14
  Speaker 14: across the finish line. Hopefully not, but you know, if
• 32:17
  Speaker 14: that happens, we should not be surprised because the momentum
• 32:19
  Speaker 14: of the machine is what it is, and it is
• 32:21
  Speaker 14: something to contend with.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: It is just unbelieved because this Platinum guy was bad
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: news from the beginning. Anybody could see it. Whatever these
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: latest horrific allegations are, it's just bizarre that the Democrats,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: you know, we go near them. But hey, let's su
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: We've want to a slightly lighter topic here, Kosher the
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: World Cup. Now, we know that Belgium just defeated the
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: US in its World Cup match, but this came after
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump told the press that he had contacted FIFA,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the organizing body of the World Cup, directly about a
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: red car that had been given to a US World
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Cup star, Flaren Belogan. Have a look, I.
• 32:55
  Speaker 15: Had nothing to do with the decision. What I did
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: have to do is I said, I think that you'd
• 32:59
  Speaker 15: be really viewed because I watched the play and he
• 33:02
  Speaker 15: didn't do anything wrong. You know, gotta look, by the way,
• 33:06
  Speaker 15: if he did, I'd feel differently, probably if he punched
• 33:08
  Speaker 15: him in the face, if he did something wrong.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Well, the FIFA president insisted that the disciplinary process was
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: independent and the president could not influence it. Kosher though,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I just think it's pretty funny there that people are.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: You know, we all know FIFA is a body with
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: shall we say, a few integrity clouds hanging over it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: That the idea that suddenly you know, it's been sullied
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: by a phone call from Trump, it's pretty funny to me.
• 33:37
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it is a little bit of pot calling cattle,
• 33:40
  Speaker 14: for sure. It is funny because you know Trump is
• 33:43
  Speaker 14: gonna Trump, and he is personal friends with the president
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: of FIFA. He made the phone call to quote look
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: into it. I think everybody can read between the lines
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: what that means. But his broader point is, I think
• 33:54
  Speaker 14: where you're saying that there's so much corruption in FIFA,
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: there's so much corruption in the world writ large anyway.
• 34:00
  Speaker 14: Of course, was at the receiving end of a lot
• 34:01
  Speaker 14: of corruption ever since he entered the political scene, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: so he's looking at it as you.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Know, why not.
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: I've got the cloud, I've got the relationship. I think
• 34:10
  Speaker 14: he probably genuinely did believe that that was unfair.
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Maybe it was.
• 34:13
  Speaker 14: I'm not a soccer expert by any means, and he
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: made the call. And it is funny because it's turning soccer,
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: really and the World Cup right now, into this microcosm
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: of world geopolitics in general, with different leaders weighing in.
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: We saw the South Korean weigh in and almost riot
• 34:31
  Speaker 14: last week and their president was unhappy, and I think
• 34:34
  Speaker 14: the coach was fired and he made a statement, and
• 34:36
  Speaker 14: there's all sorts of examples of that. So I don't know.
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: They say that culture is downstream from politics, that famous phrase.
• 34:42
  Speaker 14: It might just be or rather politics is downstream from culture.
• 34:44
  Speaker 14: It feels like it's the other way around now in
• 34:46
  Speaker 14: culture and certainly sport, and this World Cup is downstream
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: from politics.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: The extension of it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: No, I think that's right, though I also wondered if,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: like maybe the game was more exciting, people would be
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: so frustrated at the end and then wind up doing
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: all the things that they do. But hey, no, letters,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: that's just my opinion, but let's stick with the World Cup.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Though I was intrigued by this story, that World Cup
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: by that Democrat center in the US Mark Kelly, Well,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: apparently he's being mocked online for posting photos of himself
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: wearing a Mexico jersey at a watch party. Kosha, It
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: does seem pretty bad form if you're an elected representative
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: of a country to then go put on jersey for
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: another team.
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: Yes, so much signaling again, where as we say that
• 35:27
  Speaker 14: maybe politics is downstream over here once more, especially in
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: this case because Mark Kelly another one to the earlier conversation,
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: who on the surface is packaged very very well, twenty
• 35:37
  Speaker 14: five years in the US Navy, former astronaut, who doesn't
• 35:41
  Speaker 14: love that like he generally comes across as moderate, but
• 35:43
  Speaker 14: if you look at his voting record, he most certainly
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: is not. And of course, being from Arizona in a
• 35:48
  Speaker 14: border state, and we all know what the story there
• 35:51
  Speaker 14: has been for the last fifty years around immigration, maybe
• 35:54
  Speaker 14: he was signaling that and it's sort of pandering to
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: that cause and that group, whether legal illegals coming in
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: across the border. But not a good look for a
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: former in my opinion, former military guy and US astronaut.
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  Speaker 3: No, I agree. I just think that you know where
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: your own country's damn Jersey. You are an elected representative, sir,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: who did you take an oath to? Anyway? That's just
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: beyond my soapbox. But you know, just on the whole
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: question of that virtue singling a tiny northern California high
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: school and good on them, I say, is going to
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: war against Governor Gavin Newsom over its mascot. Marysville High
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: School was forced to remove the Indians mascot from official
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: use after Newsom himself signed a law forcing schools to
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: stop using Native American themed mascots. But guess what the
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: school is applying for an exemption by seeking written consent
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: from a federally recognized tribe Kosher. I can't believe we're
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: still doing these fights.
• 36:53
  Speaker 14: I know. It feels so twenty fifteen, I think, and
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: a little bit behind the curve, like he's behind the
• 36:59
  Speaker 14: culture there Newsome for picking this fight. Good on them,
• 37:03
  Speaker 14: Good for that high school. You know, it is a
• 37:04
  Speaker 14: bit of a David Goliath story. If they take on
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: the big bad governor and this fight that is certainly passed.
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: It's used by date, and if they succeed through that
• 37:13
  Speaker 14: statue or whatever means they use within the legal code
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: good for them because it's something the Redskins and others,
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: you know, could take a page out of a leaf
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: out of this playbook. If the school succeeds, and I
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: do think that it might become sort of a global
• 37:27
  Speaker 14: story where they kind of become the darlings of this
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: and to the excident that we're still taking down statues
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: and renaming teams, maybe people will be inspired by this
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: and we'll fight back against that culture war, which I
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: think is very done now, but apparently not because it
• 37:41
  Speaker 14: still pops.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: Up here and there.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Look, I remember these fights cropping up in the nineteen nineties, Kosh.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: It's like everything old is new again here. But finally
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: got to talk about Mitch McConnell. He is the Kentucky
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Republican senator, former Senate Majority Leader. Now we know he's
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: had some health challenges in the past. If you've been
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: watching some of my programs here, including the US Report,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: you will have seen him zoning out on camera and
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: things of that nature. Well, apparently he was hospitalized on
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: June fourteenth, and summer say it was a heart attack
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: or something of that nature. But there has been virtually little,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: basically nil information released about his condition. However, the journalist
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: who broke the story of his cardiac arrest is reporting
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: that he has been declared brain dead and is being
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: kept alive by life support. Kosha, This is a bit
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: strange to me that they're being so tight lipped about
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: what's happened to this former giant of the Senate. What
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: do you think is going on here? And couldn't have
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: to do with reports that his wife may have gone
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: to China.
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: Yes, for sure, I think it is no mystery. He
• 38:53
  Speaker 14: was rather geriatric and not in the best of health,
• 38:56
  Speaker 14: as you mentioned, in his late eighties and has been
• 38:59
  Speaker 14: in hospital now. I think there's a couple of things.
• 39:01
  Speaker 14: His wife.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: There's long been.
• 39:02
  Speaker 14: Allegations in innuendo about her ties and her allegiances given
• 39:07
  Speaker 14: her background. Of course, the other thing. The real story
• 39:10
  Speaker 14: here is that in twenty twenty four, the state of
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: Kentucky passed a law that requires, in this event, if
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: one of the two sitting senators vacates their seat for
• 39:21
  Speaker 14: any reason, they require special election to be held, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 14: the governor cannot just make an appointment the way it's
• 39:26
  Speaker 14: done in many other states, and in fact it was
• 39:27
  Speaker 14: in Kentucky and Governor Bisher actually vetoed that and it
• 39:31
  Speaker 14: was overridden by the state legislature by two thirds of
• 39:34
  Speaker 14: the vote his veto they were able to override it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 14: So that is the issue. And I think the cutoff
• 39:39
  Speaker 14: date is August eleventh. So if he vacates the seat
• 39:42
  Speaker 14: because he's been declared incapacitated or god forbid, you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 14: if the worse happens between now and then with him,
• 39:49
  Speaker 14: if he's in such an ill condition that opens us
• 39:51
  Speaker 14: up to special election. Would Thomas Massey throw his hat
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: in the ring as a Kentuckian and we all know
• 39:56
  Speaker 14: that story where he really does have a pretty good
• 39:59
  Speaker 14: ground swell constituency even though obviously he lost his congressional
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: seat or somebody else. That feels to me like the
• 40:05
  Speaker 14: real reason why they're trying to hang on past that
• 40:07
  Speaker 14: cut off date, so that they don't wind up in
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: a situation like that where somebody like a mass He
• 40:12
  Speaker 14: might contest the seat.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Right. Fascinating stuff, Kosha got. We're gonna have to leave
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: it there, but thank you so much for your time.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to chat. Stick around because coming up,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's alleged killer, Tyler Robinson, faces a five day
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: preliminary hearing. What do we expect? James Bolt will join
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: me in studio to discuss that and more. Welcome back
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: to the program. James Morrow, filling in for Rita Panahey
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: and Charlie Kirk's alleged killer, Tyler Robinson, is facing a
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Utah courtroom for a five day preliminary hearing into his fate.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Prosecutors plan to present DNA evidence, autopsy findings, and a
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: recording from his ex roommate. To discuss what we can
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: expec all of this. Let's bring in Sky News contributor
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: James Bolt. James, we have learned that Tyler Robinson visited
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: the Utah Valley University campus at least four times on
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: the day Charlie Kirk was shot, and this is the
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: first time Robinson has faced Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: She left the court room when and also started describing
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the gunshot. Tell us this we are planning or we
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: are expecting some pretty dramatic scenes I would expect as
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: we relive what I think was a really seminal moment
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: in the history of the last couple of years.
• 41:36
  Speaker 12: I think so, yeah, real culture defining moment. I mean
• 41:39
  Speaker 12: that it was just something that really shocked the nation.
• 41:41
  Speaker 12: But I mean, you know, it's it's so important that
• 41:44
  Speaker 12: we are having this trial and we are hearing what's happening,
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: because obviously it is given birth to such crazy conspiracy
• 41:50
  Speaker 12: theories about Erica Kirk and you know, this apparent involvement
• 41:53
  Speaker 12: that she had in her own husband's death or the
• 41:55
  Speaker 12: nation of Israel six. It's sick six stuff with no basis.
• 41:59
  Speaker 12: And I think the footage of Erica laving that quarter
• 42:02
  Speaker 12: and today really sparked to how traumatic this process is
• 42:05
  Speaker 12: for and heartfully puts a bad a few of the
• 42:07
  Speaker 12: conspiracy theories. But yeah, I mean, it's something that we're
• 42:10
  Speaker 12: going to really have to watch closely.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna watch it closely, but as we start
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: to get into the alleged motivations of the alleged killer,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Tyler Robinson, and you know, presuming that he is found guilty,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: if there's motivations and manifests and so on that are
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: on the left, and we saw a lot of people
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: on the left were let's just say, at least not
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: saddened by Charlie Kirk's death, and in fact, many did
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: celebrate it. Do we need to have a real moment
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: of soul searching on the left about what they consider
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: appropriate behavior when they're dealing with somebody here who's literal,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: entire modus operandi was going to college campuses finding people
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: who disagreed with them and said saying, change my mind.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Yet they're so threatened by that.
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: I just you completely right. There's this college of if
• 43:02
  Speaker 12: you're on the other side of politics, to me, you
• 43:04
  Speaker 12: are not just my enemy, but you are someone that
• 43:06
  Speaker 12: doesn't deserve good things that happen to them. And I
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: think it's very predominant among the left, and you just think, like, look,
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: the only person that is responsible for Charlie Kirk's assassination
• 43:17
  Speaker 12: is his assassinate, you know, the less tar. But I
• 43:20
  Speaker 12: think this is a wake up call for a lot
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: of people that go when news of this stuff breaks
• 43:25
  Speaker 12: and they want to weigh in and go, oh, this
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: is a good thing for America that Charlie Kirk has died. Obviously,
• 43:29
  Speaker 12: they are not in a you know, excuse me, They're
• 43:34
  Speaker 12: not contributing to a death, but they are sending out
• 43:36
  Speaker 12: a signal that people who are crazy pick up on,
• 43:39
  Speaker 12: which says to them, look, if you want to impress
• 43:41
  Speaker 12: the left, if you want to impress radicals online, if
• 43:43
  Speaker 12: you want to get internet points for yourself, you're going
• 43:45
  Speaker 12: to have to do something very, very crazy. Now, I'm
• 43:48
  Speaker 12: not saying that people want other conservative figures to be
• 43:51
  Speaker 12: killed like people who bite. I do think that there
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: are signals that are getting let out that people are
• 43:58
  Speaker 12: picking up on.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And yet though you know, when you look at things
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: such as the attempted shooting of Donald Trump at the
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: White House, correspondence to at dinner, you know, the manifesto
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: that the alleged shooter there had. When you look at
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: other cases, the Luigi Mangoni case with the death of
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: that healthcare CEO in New York again allegedly at the
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: hands of Luigi Mangoni. Again, every one of these times,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: it feels like there are people out there who are
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: celebrating and say, yeah, good on you, And I feel
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: like this is going to get a lot worse before
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: it gets better.
• 44:32
  Speaker 12: There's a I'll no doubt here, there's this tribe Ecmo,
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: of which contrary is in. But this this tribe there,
• 44:37
  Speaker 12: to prove that you are a man, you need to
• 44:39
  Speaker 12: go into another tribe and bring back the head of
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: an enemy Now, I think there is a certain element
• 44:43
  Speaker 12: of the radical left that, look, if it's not just
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: enough to go Trump's you know whatever, or Charlie Kirk
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: is hurting this nation, it's not enough to just go
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: crazy online about that. There is a certain element of
• 44:54
  Speaker 12: very crazy people who go, I need to actually do this.
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: And I think when the colature starts permitting this kindkind
• 45:00
  Speaker 12: of like you know, Trump, all these awful things that
• 45:02
  Speaker 12: gets said about Donald Trump, all these awful things that
• 45:04
  Speaker 12: get it said about instead of I think, is a
• 45:06
  Speaker 12: bacon gues out for crazy paper to guard. This is
• 45:08
  Speaker 12: how I become fineus.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed. But you know it's so funny too, because
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: it's like, for all the tough guy talk, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: let's go, you know, kill her enemies and everything like that,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: the left also is shot through with this incredible weakness
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: and softness and performatively so And I'm just thinking about
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: this clip here of Sonny hosting from the View, and
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: she's talking about the fourth of July and how she feels, well,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: how she feels when she goes into a neighborhood in
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: the United States, which you see this affair bit God forbid,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: there's a bunch of American flags around. Have a listen.
• 45:42
  Speaker 14: There are times when I walk into a community and
• 45:45
  Speaker 14: I see American flags all over the community, and I
• 45:50
  Speaker 14: suddenly feel unsafe.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: What is she expecting? What's going to happen? She might
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: get invited to a barbecue where her cholesterol levels might
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: be to unsafe points by all the hot dogs she's given.
• 46:03
  Speaker 12: I isn't it so sad that patriotism is tied up
• 46:06
  Speaker 12: with conservatism where it should just be patriotism as can
• 46:09
  Speaker 12: set up with all American citizens, like only everyone can
• 46:11
  Speaker 12: get around the American flag in America because it's a.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Nation to be proud of.
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: But I just think, like when Sonny Hostin says stuff
• 46:17
  Speaker 12: like that, it gets so much harder for the Democrats
• 46:20
  Speaker 12: to win over people at a neutral in politics, because
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: if you've got one side saying, hey, look, we're proud
• 46:25
  Speaker 12: to be American, We're proud of this country, We're proud
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: of what we built, you've got the other side that
• 46:29
  Speaker 12: is saying if I see an American flag, I get nervous.
• 46:32
  Speaker 12: If you're fifty to fifty on politics, I know it's
• 46:34
  Speaker 12: why people are going to lay well.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: It goes to the whole dialogue and discourse that there
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: was around the fourth of July where the Left could
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: only figure out a way to say they were celebrating
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: the United States two hundred and fiftieth birthday if they
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: at the same time ran it down and said, well,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: we're continuously improving. And it seems like you know, telling
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: your partner on their birthday. Look, you know, I love you,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: but now let's talk about how you don't load the dishwasher.
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 47:00
  Speaker 12: It's like it's an ideological purity. It's like, unless you know,
• 47:04
  Speaker 12: everything is completely pure, and I can't support it or
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: people are going to make fun of me online. So
• 47:09
  Speaker 12: unless America is this perfect nation, I can't in any
• 47:13
  Speaker 12: way endorse anything American without having a caveat Well, I
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: still hate all of this stuff, and again, it just
• 47:20
  Speaker 12: is completely It completely rules out people that just want
• 47:24
  Speaker 12: to celebrate America and not take everything so seriously.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: But you know that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Celebrati of America, it is something that we don't have
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: here in Australia. Very quickly, we've got twenty seconds. Do
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: you think Australians can learn something from the American style
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: of patriotism?
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: I honestly do.
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: I was listening to a podcast about this just this morning.
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: But like there is something that gets built in social
• 47:43
  Speaker 12: cohesion when school children repeat the national anthem and we
• 47:45
  Speaker 12: can get around things like that. So look, I actually
• 47:48
  Speaker 12: think it could be good for social cohesion in this country.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, look I think you're right. Let's take that
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: one to Pauline Hanson.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: James B.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining Midnight on the riad
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: of Panaheshio. Now stick around. That's it from me. I'll
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: see tomorrow night and up next is Newsnight
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: Ka