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Hot Chick Sustainability (On A Broke Chick Budget) · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always
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  Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey Jix, I'm sal and I'm
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  Speaker 1: out And this is two broad Chicks, the show that
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  Speaker 1: shares life lessons and tips to help make you rich
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  Speaker 1: in life.
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  Speaker 2: And today it is our absolute delight to be joined
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  Speaker 2: by Lotti dl who is an award winning sustainability advocate,
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  Speaker 2: educator and founder of Banish, a platform dedicated to empowering
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  Speaker 2: Australians with the knowledge and tools to live more sustainably.
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  Speaker 3: Lottie is also the author of.
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  Speaker 2: The book three hundred and sixty five plus Ways to
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  Speaker 2: Save the Planet and your money at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: And we have Lotti on the show to chat exactly
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  Speaker 2: that how you can reduce your impact on the Earth
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  Speaker 2: without blowing your budget.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome Lottie, Thanks for having me. What a way to
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  Speaker 4: start the.
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  Speaker 1: Episode now, Actually just going to stand at the end
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  Speaker 1: of your bed every morning and just read.
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  Speaker 4: Remember you are my son, You are the one true key. Also,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, great name for a book, Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very long name for a book. I like it.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. It's well. I think it's one of those
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  Speaker 4: things like when you're writing a book. You guys know,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, it's all about how you explain what it
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  Speaker 4: does inside the cover, and.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know again, yeah exactly that I'm
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  Speaker 1: very excited to get into this chat because I think
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  Speaker 1: this is obviously such an important topic and there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of misconceptions around it and how you can
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  Speaker 1: live both sustainably and affordably, and I know it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: been one that our chicks have been wanting to talk
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  Speaker 1: more about.
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  Speaker 4: So we're very excited to get into it, but we
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  Speaker 4: have to do life lessons first.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I saw this on the Instagram page Facts, which is
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  Speaker 1: up there with one of my favorite Instagram accaunt. We
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  Speaker 1: love it because I just find the most random facts.
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  Speaker 1: But apparently the average person will kiss twenty one point
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  Speaker 1: five people.
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  Speaker 4: In their lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I know, and the average millennial will have eight
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  Speaker 1: intimate partners over the course of their lifetime. Well Gen
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  Speaker 1: x's will have ten, but baby boomers will have twelve.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of like, you don't let you all
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  Speaker 1: know it was you, but I was like, twenty one
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  Speaker 1: point five people in their lifetime. I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what a point five is. I know,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably because the average And I was like, that's like.
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  Speaker 4: A little kiss. No time was like the corner of
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  Speaker 4: the mountain. And you're like, what is deemed a kiss?
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  Speaker 4: Is it a peck or is it like a full French?
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  Speaker 4: I think it has to be French. I think it
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  Speaker 4: has to be French.
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  Speaker 1: I've definitely probably kissed about twenty one point five people,
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  Speaker 1: so no shade probably gives.
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  Speaker 4: Me a bit more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no shade, I know a kiss? Hello above exactly?
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  Speaker 4: Well what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I have sex with people who you feel
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  Speaker 1: connected with, and kiss people who you think are hot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly's the vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, al and I like the two
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  Speaker 1: ends of the spectrum on that statistic.
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  Speaker 4: That's how they got to the twenty one point five.
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  Speaker 4: I'll let y'all feel out. Who's on what.
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  Speaker 2: I've had the same boyfriend for seventeen years.
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  Speaker 1: I just think everyone needs to kiss more to bring
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  Speaker 1: back the art of the makeout.
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  Speaker 4: Love A makeout love a makeout and you know.
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  Speaker 1: What, people don't kiss enough. We're actually in a kissing epidemic. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: people need to be smooching, they need to be kissing.
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  Speaker 1: I never see people making out in the club. I
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  Speaker 1: don't go to the club. I go to the pub.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he's.
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  Speaker 1: You never see people just like kissing anymore. Yes, bring
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  Speaker 1: back the dirty dance floor.
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  Speaker 4: Pash vibes seriously, because you know what, that's not enough
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  Speaker 4: twenty one higher. We've got KPIs to meet people. Let's
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  Speaker 4: go puck her up. Yeah, well, I know what's happening
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  Speaker 4: after this episode? Yeah, what's your life lesson? This is
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  Speaker 4: a good one. I think that my my life lesson
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  Speaker 4: is going to be. There's so many different things that
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about, but one of them is it's a
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  Speaker 4: bit nerdy. I love a nerdy stat But a new
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  Speaker 4: report has just come out talking about food waste in
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  Speaker 4: Australia and the most wasted vegetable is now the poor cucumber.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm so sorry for the poor cucumbers. So mine
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  Speaker 4: is about how we can utilize those cucumbers. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's about making pickles. I want everyone to love pickle,
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  Speaker 4: like a dirty bread and butter pickle.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it goes in the crisper and it
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  Speaker 1: goes down the bottom, up the back, and like my
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  Speaker 1: brain is like, well it doesn't exactly. I can't see
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  Speaker 1: it can. I also be about is it just me
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  Speaker 1: or does it seem like they go off in like
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  Speaker 1: two seconds now though, like I feel like I'll have
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  Speaker 1: a cucumber and like four days later, I'm like, it's
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  Speaker 1: like he's got a bit with and no one else
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  Speaker 1: does it.
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  Speaker 4: Strawberries, Yeah, strawberries are so cheap as well. At the moment,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you're by them and they're pretty much disintegrated.
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  Speaker 1: And aldi's on all dash now, which is like my
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  Speaker 1: hyperfixation because now I can also earn like velocity points,
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  Speaker 1: like directly, I'll get into you later.
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  Speaker 4: I love points.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm like I got blueberries for three dollars
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm rich.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like this has changed the game.
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  Speaker 1: Because I looked on another grocery delivery blueberries were ten dollars.
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  Speaker 4: I went, I was like, yes, how much the blueberries are?
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  Speaker 4: And so I was like how much? I was like
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  Speaker 4: ten dollars.
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  Speaker 1: And whenever sound like is shot by something, she just
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  Speaker 1: goes shut up, like typical millennial.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like she's always like, shut up. The princess amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a good fact though, But yes, pickles love them.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't like pickles growing up. I think it's a
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  Speaker 4: frontal lobe developing thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like once you like pickles, you know your frontal lobe
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  Speaker 1: has developed.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of Aldi, they do like a two kilo special buy
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  Speaker 4: sometimes of bread and butter pickles, and it's literally like
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  Speaker 4: this week would ten out of ten recommend. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's another food that is a sign that your frontal
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  Speaker 1: lobe has developed?
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  Speaker 4: Olives? Definitely Chili. Yeah, see, I think I'm going through
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  Speaker 4: this phase where I love chili, but I'm actually not
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  Speaker 4: good with spice, So your frontal lobe can be disintegrating,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe that's what's happening. Pickle.
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  Speaker 1: It's more like it's like they can't even handle pepper,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like your frontal lobe has to developed.
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  Speaker 4: You still have the of a seven year old. My boyfriend,
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  Speaker 4: my boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Chicken, it's like beige from people's plates are just you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the girlpop Vodkai pasta, Like we'll make it and
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  Speaker 1: it's not even that spicy, and he'll be sitting there go.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you doing? Spicy like that? And
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, grow up. Pepper is also like yeah, literally
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  Speaker 4: sit there and you go.
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  Speaker 1: Chili.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, my life the next week is
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  Speaker 2: I also saw a fun little stat and report. Apparently
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  Speaker 2: women need forty seven minutes of attention per day from
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  Speaker 2: their partner to be the most happy version of themselves.
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  Speaker 4: And this is double it and give it to the
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  Speaker 4: next person.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this is uninterrupted, so that doesn't be weird, like
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  Speaker 2: scrolling on your phone next to them watching TV.
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  Speaker 4: That's per day? Was it.
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  Speaker 2: Of like pure connection, like talking to each other? I
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  Speaker 2: assume being intimate.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to add this to the schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Does not include being intimate. That doesn't care.
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  Speaker 2: This doesn't mean scrolling side by side on phones. It
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  Speaker 2: means real focus time, sharing meaningful conversations, doing activities together,
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  Speaker 2: or showing affection. So, according to the researchers who conducted
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  Speaker 2: this study, these small daily efforts go a long way
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  Speaker 2: in nurturing emotional connection and relationship satisfaction.
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  Speaker 1: I one thousand support that, and I would say I
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  Speaker 1: probably require double same.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like overachiever, I need yeah, twenty three hours.
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  Speaker 4: But obviously sex is such an intimate act.
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  Speaker 1: But like also talking and not being on your phone
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  Speaker 1: and discussing things that actually have nothing to.
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  Speaker 4: Do with work or your day blah, blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's also such an intimate part of relationships that
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  Speaker 1: I think you also have to make that forty seven
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  Speaker 1: minutes at least.
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  Speaker 4: I also think it can come down to that like
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  Speaker 4: quality time together, like cooking a meal. It could be
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  Speaker 4: going for a walk like it. It doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 4: just staring at one another. You're just like face a face.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't get into the episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So, as we did mention up top
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  Speaker 2: in our glowing review of you, you have done so
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  Speaker 2: much amazing work in the sustainability space. Where did your
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  Speaker 2: passion begin and how did you get into this line
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  Speaker 2: of work?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. I feel like I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have like an upbringing that was super sustainable or off
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  Speaker 4: the grid or anything like that. It actually came off
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  Speaker 4: the back of a New Year's a solution, which is
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  Speaker 4: one I got. Congrats to you for sticking to them.
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  Speaker 4: It's the only one I've ever heard you do it
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  Speaker 4: six of them at the same time, So I feel
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  Speaker 4: like then you get a good strike rate. If only
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  Speaker 4: one works, you're like, well, at least something happens. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The other ones were like become fluent in Spanish, happened.
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  Speaker 1: To run.
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  Speaker 4: Run a half marathon hasn't happened, But one was just
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  Speaker 4: to do better for the planet because it was at
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  Speaker 4: a time when we're still using plastic bags and supermarkets,
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  Speaker 4: but we're starting to see those scary news headlines coming
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  Speaker 4: about the turtle with the store up its knows that
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  Speaker 4: everybody knows all of those really scary doom and gloom headlines.
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  Speaker 4: And I was working as a journalist at the time,
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  Speaker 4: and I was kind of reading all of these articles
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, but no one's telling us what
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  Speaker 4: to do about it. They're just telling us about the problem.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I get it, the world's in trouble,
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  Speaker 4: but tell me what I can do about it. So
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  Speaker 4: when nobody was really filling that gap, I thought, well,
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  Speaker 4: why not help do that? Because I was the target demographic.
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  Speaker 4: I was chatting to other people. They also wanted to
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  Speaker 4: do more when it came to the planet, but they
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  Speaker 4: didn't really know where to start. There's heaps of information
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  Speaker 4: for people who had been living like this for a
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  Speaker 4: long time, but what about the girlies who just wanted
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  Speaker 4: to do a little bit, a little something something. So
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  Speaker 4: that's why I decided to launch Banish as an education
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  Speaker 4: platform to teach people those small micro steps that they
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  Speaker 4: can take in order to live more sustainably, acknowledging that
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  Speaker 4: we're all still going to drive cars, we're all still
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  Speaker 4: going to go shopping, We're all going to do all
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  Speaker 4: of these things, but we can do it just a
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  Speaker 4: little bit better. So that was kind of how Banish started.
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  Speaker 4: It was an e commerce platform and also an education platform,
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  Speaker 4: so we connected Australians with different brands that were doing
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  Speaker 4: the right thing when it came to the planet, and
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  Speaker 4: then it's kind of evolved over time. We launched BRAD,
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  Speaker 4: which is the Banish Recycling and Diversion program where people
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  Speaker 4: send us their hard to recycle items in the mail.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was that person who was kind of reducing
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  Speaker 4: my waist as much as possible, but I still had
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  Speaker 4: all of these things that I had to put in
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  Speaker 4: my red bin, So things like empty beauty products and
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  Speaker 4: bottle top lids and soy sauce, fishies, plastic bread tags.
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  Speaker 1: They're getting rid of those, aren't they only in South Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it'll roll out Fingers cross always one one Domino
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  Speaker 1: hast for first.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we need someone to be Brave, Thanks South
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  Speaker 4: Australia for doing that. So yeah, so that's when I
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  Speaker 4: decided to launch BRAD to teach people how to live
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  Speaker 4: more sustainably, but also to show them how they could
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  Speaker 4: recycle these hard to recycle items. So they sent them
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  Speaker 4: to me in a shoebox in the mail in my
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  Speaker 4: backyard and then once that kind of started, it was
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  Speaker 4: just this whole like avalanche effect. So we now get
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  Speaker 4: sixty shoeboxes every day sent in from around Australia and
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  Speaker 4: last year we recycled two million items that would have
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  Speaker 4: otherwise gone into landfills.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, what are some of those items that are
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  Speaker 1: hard to recycle that people can send to your BRAD initiative.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there is things like blister packs, so empty
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  Speaker 4: pill packets, mascara tubes, contact lens cases, old sunglasses, old
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  Speaker 4: reading glasses, bronze of palettes, skincare tubes, glass serum bottles.
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  Speaker 4: So any of your beauty products that are under one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty mils or one hundred and fifty grams
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  Speaker 4: are too small to go on your curb side recycling bin.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why they should come to BRAD once you
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  Speaker 4: finish with those empties amazing.
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  Speaker 1: You are so impressive. That's incredible. I'm very keen to
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  Speaker 1: get into this because a big critique of living a
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  Speaker 1: more sustainable life is that it's more expensive than the alternative.
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  Speaker 1: What's a myth around sustainability and affordability that you would
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  Speaker 1: like to retire.
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  Speaker 4: I think it is that living more sustainably costs money,
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  Speaker 4: because I think that that's the biggest misconception out there.
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  Speaker 4: I've had so many conversations with people and they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I really want to do the right thing for the planet,
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  Speaker 4: I just can't afford it where I'm going hang on.
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  Speaker 4: I've been on this journey for seven years now, and
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  Speaker 4: I have saved so much money in the process because
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  Speaker 4: I think there's this misconception that living sustainably means this esthetic,
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  Speaker 4: linen beige lifestyle. Everything looks beautiful, everything is matching, where
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  Speaker 4: an actual fact, living sustainably just comes down to not
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  Speaker 4: using so much stuff. It's about using up what you've
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  Speaker 4: already got at home, re wearing things, repairing things. It's
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  Speaker 4: nothing new and innovative. It's almost just going back to
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  Speaker 4: what our grandparents used to do. And like, I'm like
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  Speaker 4: the old nonnas were the most sustainable people out there.
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  Speaker 4: I remember going to my grandma's place. I'd like, open
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  Speaker 4: up a thing of yogurt and it was just like
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  Speaker 4: a storage container uses and I was like, why don't.
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  Speaker 2: We do that anyway, bloody cookie, I've always had the supply.
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  Speaker 1: Also, will not clean out their fridge. You're like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: these olives went off like two weeks good good exactly, No,
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  Speaker 1: they're good. And you're like, nah, like you eat those
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  Speaker 1: olives until they're done.
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  Speaker 4: But they survived.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fine and actually probably got the best microbme
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  Speaker 1: yea of all the generations.
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  Speaker 4: Spices five still good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things. And I think
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  Speaker 4: we can look to innovation and sustainability and yes, it
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  Speaker 4: is important, but so much of it comes down to
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  Speaker 4: like if you've got a T shirt that no longer
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  Speaker 4: looks great, it's like, well, can you repair it? Can
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  Speaker 4: you diet? Can you do something different to it? Because
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  Speaker 4: I think we've got this convenience built into us now.
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  Speaker 4: If we're missing something, it's there at a click of
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  Speaker 4: a button, We're able to order it to the house.
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  Speaker 4: It's going, well, if you're missing something in a recipe,
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  Speaker 4: is there something you've already got at home that you
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  Speaker 4: can just substitute in for it if you have got
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  Speaker 4: a dress up party coming up, or I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: a wedding, can you borrow something from a friend, Like
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  Speaker 4: We used to do that a lot more when we
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  Speaker 4: were younger. So why did we stop doing that when
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  Speaker 4: arguably right now we probably have better clothes in our
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  Speaker 4: wardrobes than we did when we're in high school? So
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  Speaker 4: why don't we keep borrowing from friends? It's these small things,
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  Speaker 4: and I think so much of it just comes down
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  Speaker 4: to thinking twice and considering the planet. When you are
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  Speaker 4: making decisions.
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  Speaker 2: What are your favorite low cost or zero cost habits
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  Speaker 2: that feel like a blow up and not a sacrifice.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, this is a good question. I think for me,
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  Speaker 4: mine is the ocean. A swim in the ocean zero
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  Speaker 4: dollars and the amount that it can glow you up
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  Speaker 4: change your day. There's no such thing. You never regret
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  Speaker 4: a swim. I agree. We say that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we say you never regret a swim literally basically
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  Speaker 1: every day of.
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  Speaker 4: Summer exactly, So I think that's something. I also think
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  Speaker 4: quality time with friends is for me a huge glow up.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't need to be an expensive dinner. It could
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  Speaker 4: be a hot girl walk with friend. And I think
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  Speaker 4: for me that's something that helps empower me, inspire me,
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  Speaker 4: get me motivated. I think another thing would be again,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to sound like Ranana, but it is around
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  Speaker 4: looking after what you've got. So if you do have
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  Speaker 4: a plastic hair brush, great, just use that for a
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  Speaker 4: very long time, clean it, look after it, and then
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  Speaker 4: you are going to be able to treasure that item
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  Speaker 4: for a long time. And I think so many things
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  Speaker 4: that we look at we're like, well this is getting
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  Speaker 4: a bit shabby and gross, and I don't know I've
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  Speaker 4: had this for I don't know how long. It just
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  Speaker 4: looking after that and that doesn't cost him anything.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I find we get this kind of deterrence because
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  Speaker 1: you know, we are in a COZILYPS crisis and the
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: soul on my winter boots is absolutely corct or they're
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: completely ready to go into the afterlife, right beyond repair.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And it'll be like, I don't I can't spend three
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars on a pair of one leather boots, right,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: so I'll buy the sixty dollars pleather ones that are
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: going to fall apart in a year, and then you're
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: buying another sixty dollars pair of leather boots and another
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: pair And so often we talk about this all the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: time that when you try to cheap out on the
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: thing that probably should be a really high quality and expensive,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you end up spending more and it's not actually affordable.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: It was painful for me to spend how much were
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: those boots.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Like we did end up getting them on s out.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I got obviously two projects.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: It was it was already painting and I was like,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: please give me a twenty percent off prema code at
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: those boats every year and they're like five years old
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: at this point and there is not a dent in them.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I find that mentality which correct me from wrong roof
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you've seen any differently, you actually care about the item more.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You're going to take it to get repaired, Like if
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you know, a button falls off it or if there's
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a tear or it has a stain, like, you're gonna
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: take care of it because you're like three hundred.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Dollars on exactly, You've got to make it last. Yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: And I also think it comes down to, yeah, that
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: repair mentality and going back again to practices like there
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: are cobblers still did exist. Yeah, right, broken handbag you
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: can get strap fixed, you don't need to get a
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: whole new one, And arguably that's going to be a
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: lot cheaper than you having to buy and buy and
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: buy those handbags over and over again. Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: My favorite question, what slow and sustainable fashion brands should
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: we add to our shopping list?
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: This is that's a really good question. I am just
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: going to go with Vinnie's and Salvos. That is just
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: my there's enough fashion out there we don't need to
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: actually be going into new and I feel like we've
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: got so much, so many nuggets in these great secondhand stores,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: So that would be my brands you can add U
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: turn in there as well. Also, yes, I haven't been yet.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so so good.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Like we went to the new one in Surry Hills,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: darling Hurst, Yeah, darling Huge is that one on Oxford Street?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: So really good.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And there's so many, like if you're in Sydney, there's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: so many good thrift shops.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Well, they're popping up everywhere, and that's why I'm like,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: there's enough new stuff out there, let's just go secondhand.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: And I found I've had a couple of parties like
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: dress up parties lately, rogue dress up parties like Coyote Ugly.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It's also like things looking vintage is a trend, and
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it's like Nike in Schemes just released a collaboration and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I was reading the article the vintage pieces created to
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: feel and I was like, but they're not, but you're
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: making it to look like vintage pieces, and why don't
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: we just buy the vintage pieces.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: It's like distressed denim. Just get some old denim rather
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: than having to like cut holes into it and fade it,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: which is a really bad process for the environment. Anyway.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: A pair of Goldie jeans which retail for like four
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars plus from Vinnie's for how.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Much was it fifteen dollars?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Fifteen dollars.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I found the first but they didn't fit me because
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I wasn't short enough, and I was like.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: You needs some much shorter. Here goes sound like they
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: were like cuffed, and so I was like, I think
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: that's the beauty of it. You're not going to look
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: like everybody else. It's like treasure hunting and it's a
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: nice story as well.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: If somebody asked you where you got something like that's
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: also like a fun little story that you can tell.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: So I love that Big Shop Girls. But greenwashing and
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: transparency is also a huge problem. How can you know
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: which brands to trust and which ones.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Not to Yeah, it's a good question. So green washing
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: is kind of when a brand will allude to be
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: being sustainable when they're actually not doing the right things.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: So say, for example, for me, it would be ordering
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: five stainless steel strolls online and they come individually wrapped
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: in plastic. Or you purchase a brand that you think
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: is sustainable and you get home find out that there's
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: a lot of palm oil in there, which is one
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: of the leading causes of deforestation. This is happening more
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: and more because brands know that people want to be
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: doing the right thing yea, all the planet, so they
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: will trick us. And I think my least favorite thing
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: about greenwashing is that we're now starting to see things
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: like trust marks. So what this means is brands will
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: be making their packaging look sustainable without it actually being
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: a sustainable brand. So when you think about sustainability, you
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: think about like green or craft paper or brown leave leaves,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: a brand could put all of that stuff they're packaging
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: and it's not actually sustainable. They're just wanting to kind
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: of appeal to that. So I think trust marks are
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: a big thing that I'm a bit like.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Oh I also saw one that was like doing photo
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: shoots in very green spaces or like.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: In a field, or she's planting. She's wearing a dress
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: made of bolyesta. Totally she's flammable, but she's flammable, but
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: at least she's got we're just planning with treeing. Oh
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: my god. Like that's the thing. They're not telling us
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: they're being sustainable, but they're alluding to the fact that
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: they are. So. For me, red flags are any kind
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: of eco, natural or green words because they mean nothing,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Like you can say this is like seals eco and
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: green cleaner and it can be filled with bleach. Like
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: there's nothing that's going to stop brands from doing that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: There's no regulation around that. HABRAC is coming down on brands,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: but they're going for the big ones first and it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: going to take a while. They've got a lot of
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: things to be doing, right. They are busy people, so
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I think that's for something. And also it's looking at
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the back of an ingredients list. So if you're looking
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: at a beauty product, for example, if you can't pronounce
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: the words in that packaging, in that ingredients list, if
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: there is like a I don't know, an encyclopedia's worth
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: of words in there, you're kind of going, why have
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: you got one hundred different ingredients in this? Why can't
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I actually pronounce any of these ingredients? That's what I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: kind of going, This isn't really something that I love.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on refillable beauty products and the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: role that they play in sustainability and affordability.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. I really like refillable beauty products.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yea.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I think that there's a really great place for them
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: because I think if you think about beauty products in
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the packaging, there's a lot of different components. To say,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: for example, if you have a big I don't know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: like a seerum bodle or something like that, You've got
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: even perfumes. Now, yeah, there's a lot in there that
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: you want to keep that packaging in use because it's
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: really hard to reach cycle. So having a refillable body
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: wash or something like that, even if it comes in
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: a soft plastic pouch. It's lighter weight, so it means
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: that less carbon emissions have gone into producing that product,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: but also sending it to you or sending it to
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: the store. So I think that's also a really good thing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: So I am very pro refillable.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Because that's just what I was wondering was when you
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: have like a refeelable product and you buy the refill,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you still are getting rid of the product, like the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: packaging the.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Refill came in. It's just less. It's just less.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, That's what I was like, Is it still like
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: a sustainable thing or is it one of those things
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: where it's thick We're being tricked.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: But also if you think some brands are actually seeing
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: we'll have like a refillable option in store to say,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: for example, with like Locks of Time, you can go
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: in store and refill your items, so then you have
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: actually no packaging in that process. Yeah, so that's why
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I do like it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I love that I remember seeing that in the Locks
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of Time store that you can literally just take your
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: bodle in like a.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Bloody self serve.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But in head, it's the arm and body oil that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I'm insisted with the Yeah, so, looking at the average
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Australian girly in their twenties or thirties, what are the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: everyday habits that make a big impact on the planet
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that we probably don't realize Outside of shopping, because I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: think that's probably the most obvious one in terms of
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: like shopping for clothes and not rewaring.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I think, without being super polarizing, reducing your
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: meat intake is a really big one that can have
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: a really great impact on the planet. It doesn't mean
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: going vegetarian or vegan. It could be as simple as saying, Okay,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: for breakfast, I'm not going to have any meat products,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: and that will really significantly reduce your carbon emissions and
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: also your environmental impact. I would also look to things
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: like your single use plastic consumption. If you are somebody
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: who's consuming things like your coffee's taking your reusable cup,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: it does make a really big impact. It also will
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: save you money. Most cafes give you fifty cents off
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: every time you bring your reusable cup, so that over
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: a week is pretty much the equivalent of a free coffee.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: So that is a really good one that I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: people should be thinking of. It's also I think pulling
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: together our resources, and that can look like a lot
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: of different things. It could be reusing or borrowing things
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: from friends, so if you need to, I don't know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: borrow power drill if you're going to be a practical
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Gali and you've got a friend who's got one, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: it could mean catching the bus to work. I think
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of things that we probably already do
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: in our routine that are actually sustainable, but we don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: think of them as sustainable. So I think that's something
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to really focus on. Is it's not how much you've
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: got to do, it's also acknowledging the fact that you're
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: already doing a pretty good job and there's just a
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: couple of extra things that you could be doing for that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: It could be something like, if you are getting takeaway,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: can you get takeaway that this is an't going to
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: be your lunch for the next day as well, so
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: then you're not going to be wasting even more money
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: or having takeaway dinner and then having a takeaway lunch
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: that's going to cost you double. So I think there's
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: just a lot of things that are small, simple steps
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: that are pretty tangible and practical, but it just again
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: comes to considering the planet when you're making that purchasing
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: decision as well. I love that I can get into
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: our game.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we want to wrap up the episode by
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: playing a little game that's inspired by your book, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: we've named it Make It Green. So we'll give you
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: an everyday habit and you can give us your number
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: one budget friendly tip to be more sustainable.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Love it you're ready? Yeah, okay. Number one beauty products.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Cut your tube and get every last ounce out. Number
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: two food and meals. Eat all of your leftovers, don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: forget about them.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And then those cucumbers and the cucumbers justice for the
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Number three finances and banking.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Look at who you're super invests in on your behalf.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Number four household bills. Put on a jumper or take
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: off the jumper before turning on the air con or
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: the heating. Okay, Dad, I did say switch off the
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: light when you leave the room. Yeah, we've all turned
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: into our dads. Number five travel, walk or catch public
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: transport when you're traveling more than catching ubers or taxis.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Number six cleaning. Use lemons for absolutely everything. Love that
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: love a lemon. You're witchy of you, very witch, very
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: green witch. So witchie could be slicing your lemon and
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: boiling it to act as a natural descaler. It could
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: be putting half a lemon on the top shelf of
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: your dishwasher, which acts as a natural rinse.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Aid.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Add some sliced lemons to your laundry load when you're
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: washing your whites. It will actually help brighten them. Rub
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: a lemon on a wooden chopping board and it will
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: disinfect so many tips. I love lemons.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: What can't a lemon do?
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: What can't a lemon do? When life gives you lemons,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: do it? Sunday Retail, Oh my god, I love.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: That so much.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: That was incredible. I feel like we could talk to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you all day. But we do like to wrap our
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: episodes with the same question with our guess, but related
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: to the topic that they're speaking to. So, what is
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the biggest life lesson that you've learned on your sustainability
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: journey so far?
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I think my biggest life lesson is that everybody is
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: at different sections of their sustainability journey, so you can't
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: compare yourself to one another. I feel like comparison really
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: is the thief of joy, and it's so easy to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: look at other people and what they're doing going well, look,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: there's so much further ahead of me on their sustainability journey.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: There's no point me even starting, whereas you actually don't
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: understand their full journey and what they're doing. So it
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: would be just to plot along in your own lane,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: making your own small, simple changes and it will actually
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: make an impact because whilst we can look to governments
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: and large organizations to make changes, as individuals, I believe
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: that we really do have our part to play and
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: we are making an impact, even if it is small,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: simple steps. I love that, and it could be as
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: small as asking yourself, do I really need this? Exactly
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: as the first step not buying that item is actually
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: a really positive thing, or not consuming something does actually
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: have an impact, but it's really hard. We don't have
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: that like cyclo switch. When we open up something from
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: an online audo, we get that dopamine rush, but when
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: we don't buy something, we need to somehow reward ourselves
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: from doing that. Yeah, yes, true, pat on the back.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Love that. Well, thank you so much. Thanks for having me, guys.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go get lemons and put them on everything.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, me too. You've just rocked my world.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: For the chicks who.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Aren't already following you, where can they follow you and
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: learn more about what you do?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, they can find all of the information att banishes
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: banished dot com today. You follow me on Insta at
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: lotty d l and on TikTok at lotty d a
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: l z I e l am.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: We also put a link to your book in the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: shout out so the chickens can pick it up. Good
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Christmas gift, I reckon, Yes, thanks for.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: That, for that one grandma that like plays t move.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well, thanks to you, and thanks to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: you chicks for having us in the ear holes.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: We love to be here. We'll see you next time.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Baig bye doodle to those I love that
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