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Jaren Jackson Jr. Traded To The Utah Jazz… · Kenny For Real

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Speaker 1: Over the last fourteen to fifteen hours, the NBA traade
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Speaker 1: deadline went from a dud to like an old snap
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Speaker 1: for a couple offer reason. We heard about the James
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Speaker 1: Hard and Clayton Cavaliers. James wants out, it might be
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Speaker 1: the Cavs, and then out of nowhere, the Grizzies traded
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Speaker 1: away Jared Jackson Junior.
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Speaker 2: We got this trade.
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Speaker 1: We got a smaller trade with the Bulls and tim
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Speaker 1: Wolves and the Pissons that we'll talk about.
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Speaker 2: They could be setting up a larger trade.
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Speaker 1: Things are going crazy and the deadline is what forty
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Speaker 1: eight hours away at this point, But let's start off
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Speaker 1: with this trade because it's the biggest trade. Jaron Joxon
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Speaker 1: Junior is a DPO wid Jerons X Junior is an
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Speaker 1: NBA player. Jared Jackson Junior is.
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Speaker 2: A former All Star. He just got moved kind of
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Speaker 2: out of nowhere. It's him. John Contra shot out to
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Speaker 2: my guy, John Contart.
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Speaker 1: Jacquelendale, Vince Williams Junior to Utah Jazz for Walter Clayton Junior,
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Speaker 1: Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendrick. So I'm hoping Taylor ing just
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Speaker 1: get to Memphis, and he looks like the guy we
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Speaker 1: thought I thought he could be, and then George Yange
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Speaker 1: get three future first round picks out.
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Speaker 2: This breaks and it's like, no way, right, there's no way, I.
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Speaker 1: Said, for an entire month, and I do want to
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Speaker 1: make sure I'm keep checking my phone because things are
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Speaker 1: still breaking as we speak, for an entire month since
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Speaker 1: they told us that John Marin is available that I said,
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Speaker 1: you might as well get in front of it and
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Speaker 1: trade away Jaron, and I gotta give a lot of
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Speaker 1: credit to the Grizzlies for this, because one of the
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Speaker 1: toughest things to do as a front office, as a
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Speaker 1: team is to recognize when your window is closed. Teams
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Speaker 1: hold on to assets a little bit too long, and
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Speaker 1: that appreciates the value because you think that the core
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Speaker 1: of Jah and Bain and Jaren is good enough.
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Speaker 2: To win the West, and it never really was. You know.
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Speaker 1: Of course, we had the two seed to cover different times,
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Speaker 1: and you had some interesting series here there. But they're
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Speaker 1: getting ahead of it and we know that John right,
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Speaker 1: if he does get traded by Thursday, probably won't net
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Speaker 1: you many first round picks. So even though we love
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Speaker 1: Jaron and he is one of our best, actually one
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Speaker 1: of the best players in franchise history if you think
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Speaker 1: about it, franchise, they've been around for that loan. We
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Speaker 1: have to do what we gotta do, and they got
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Speaker 1: a good return. So it said three first round picks.
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Speaker 1: My first initial thought was what those picks end up being.
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Speaker 1: The Jazz are trading the most favorable of a twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty seven first round pick, that is between Cleveland, Minnesota
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Speaker 1: and Utah, a Lakers twenty twenty seven first round pick,
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Speaker 1: and a Phoenix twenty thirty one first round pick, which
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Speaker 1: could be the most interesting of the piece.
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Speaker 2: They don't really know.
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Speaker 1: What's gonna happening with Phoenix in twenty thirty one. I
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Speaker 1: guess we don't know what's gonna be happening with the
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Speaker 1: Lakers in twenty twenty seven, but we feel pretty good
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Speaker 1: that Luca's gonna be there. So that pick is probably
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Speaker 1: outside the lottery because again it's Luca Donton, She's gonna
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And then the most favorable between the
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Speaker 1: Calves the Temples in Utah, that might just end up
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Speaker 1: being a Utah pick in twenty twenty seven. And wow,
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Speaker 1: it happened. It happened out of nowhere, Like Jared being available.
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Speaker 1: I just felt like it would be maybe there were
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Speaker 1: a ton of suitors. Maybe they didn't make their new
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Speaker 1: dealers to make the calls. There will be maybe some
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Speaker 1: suitors that I don't know would be in contention, some
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Speaker 1: suitors that are in playoff contention at least, and the
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Speaker 1: Jazz are not that team. The Jazz are an interesting
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Speaker 1: spot because, as we all have noted, let me put
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Speaker 1: this up, their pick is top eight protected. Right now,
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Speaker 1: they're sitting at the sixth spot and the difference between
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Speaker 1: them and eight is like four and a half games.
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Speaker 1: It's just a big jump, like a big thing. With
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Speaker 1: thirty games left for the season, their pick is top
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Speaker 1: eight protected. And Danny Ainge in ownership actually before the
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Speaker 1: season started to saying we're done. Losing on purpose was
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Speaker 1: in the case over the last month or so, I
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Speaker 1: feel like I've never I haven't seen Kiante, George and
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Speaker 1: Larry market a shoot up together is one of the
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Speaker 1: other or neither.
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Speaker 2: So they weren't done.
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Speaker 1: Completely taken, but maybe they were just an issuing that
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Speaker 1: they're done after the season because Jared comes to this.
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Speaker 2: Team and it feels very two Kosh.
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Speaker 1: Also, they always told us that Larry Marketing wasn't available,
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Speaker 1: and I always thought that was maybe a leverage pool.
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Speaker 1: They're like, we want to get three first round picks
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Speaker 1: for Lwers, so I'm gonna tell.
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Speaker 2: You that he's not available. Even if he is, he's just.
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Speaker 1: Truly not available. So they have a potential going into
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Speaker 1: next season, a potential lineup of Keyante George who was
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Speaker 1: in the midst of a breakout season and probably has
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Speaker 1: another step above him maybe starting next year. He's Bailey
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Speaker 1: rookie that has looked pretty interesting over the last month
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Speaker 1: or so. He's been scoring a little bit more than
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Speaker 1: his first couple months of his career. Larry Markinen at
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Speaker 1: the three hours, assume Jared Jackson Junior at the four,
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Speaker 1: and at the five bring it back Walker Kessler. There
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Speaker 1: was another report that I remember who put it out
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Speaker 1: there that acquiring Jared Jackson junior will not deter them
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Speaker 1: for trying to retain Walker Kessler.
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Speaker 2: And that is an interesting team at the bare minimal.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a team that we look
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Speaker 1: at and say, oh, they're gonna win fifty games, but
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Speaker 1: it's at least an interesting team because Jaren is a
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Speaker 1: good ball player, right and I think it's very interesting
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Speaker 1: that when Jaren was having a good season, don't get
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Speaker 1: me wrong, and then he played one game with Tie
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Speaker 1: Jerome and I feel like he looked even better just
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Speaker 1: because he needed some.
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Speaker 2: Point guard play and you know, John Morant was out.
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Speaker 1: And this is this feels so weird to me because
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Speaker 1: the entire time I was talking about Jeron Jackson Junior
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Speaker 1: being traded, the one team I linked him to me personally,
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Speaker 1: not sources or anything. The one team I linked him
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Speaker 1: to was the Blazers. And the reason I linked them
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Speaker 1: to the Blazer is because they have a big fella
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Speaker 1: that can play next to him. I don't want Jeron
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Speaker 1: Jackson Jude to play the five. He can play spotmans,
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Speaker 1: but I don't want to be my full time fivebs
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Speaker 1: A five and a half rebounds, it's not good enough.
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Speaker 2: And I just know that last.
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Speaker 1: Year and the bits and piece of this year they've
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Speaker 1: played together, him and Zachiety looked well together. And I
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Speaker 1: think that Jaren is the type of guy that he
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Speaker 1: plays alongside a big, towering dude like a Walker Kessler.
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Speaker 1: It unlocks him defensively and offensively. He won dpo y
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Speaker 1: like roaming just roaming. He wants a guy that's gonna
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Speaker 1: get me your center and we gonna lock him up.
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Speaker 1: This is a guy that's gonna go out there and
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Speaker 1: guard your worst shooter and have it that way. So
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Speaker 1: I like his fit there from that perspective. But it
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Speaker 1: is a bit weird the timing of it all. Maybe
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Speaker 1: you just thought that, hey, Jared JX juniors don't become
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Speaker 1: available on the market often, so we gonna spend some
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Speaker 1: assets right now, even though we're.
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Speaker 2: What nineteen win team.
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Speaker 1: Fifteen I gave them four sha wins. They're fifteen win team.
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Speaker 1: If fifteen win teams normally do not buy. It just
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Speaker 1: reminds me I'm an internet general manager. I know I'll
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Speaker 1: be on the PlayStation doing a thing that sometimes I'll
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Speaker 1: be making these two K videos and my team is trash,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, hmm, maybe I still buy even though
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Speaker 1: I'm trash, because they're a pick of stop it protected
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Speaker 1: and Jaron is a really good ball player.
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Speaker 2: I wonder how they try to manage Jeron for the
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Speaker 2: rest of the season. I don't know Jaron him like
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Speaker 2: as a person.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he would be welcome to sitting
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Speaker 1: every second game in order for them to retain their pick,
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Speaker 1: or do they just not care. Did they bring it
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Speaker 1: me in and say, hey, man, I know we lose.
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Speaker 1: We lost six in a row and we're one to
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Speaker 1: nine in our last tiar, but we acquired you now
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Speaker 1: and we want you to play right now. I don't
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Speaker 1: really know, but the timing of it is a bit
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Speaker 1: weird now, if I'm gonna give them any credit. Of course,
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Speaker 1: they acquire the best player, and a lot of times
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Speaker 1: it boils down to acquiring the best player. Jared's in
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Speaker 1: the contract for like the next five years because he
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Speaker 1: just signed an extension, so you ain't got to think
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Speaker 1: about him wiggling out of anything. So they acquired the
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Speaker 1: best player, and they only gave up really one of
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Speaker 1: their own first round picks in twenty twenty seven. They
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Speaker 1: still do have all of their other first round picks potentially,
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Speaker 1: so it's not like the value that you gave away
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Speaker 1: is not the value that it is on paper. I
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Speaker 1: think the timing of it all is the weird part.
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Speaker 1: Usually these bad teams aren't really buying, but they told
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Speaker 1: us they woul dubb me a bad From the grizziest perspective,
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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, recognizing that the window was close and
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Speaker 1: not waiting to the last minute to get rid of
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Speaker 1: a guy to trade them away makes sense to me.
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Speaker 1: The Grizziest, I would assume, is also just going to
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Speaker 1: be looking out for John Morant trades, and I don't
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Speaker 1: know exactly what that is, but I think they're gonna
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Speaker 1: feel a lot better with trading John Moran for no
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Speaker 1: draft picks, because they got seven for Desmond Baying and
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Speaker 1: Jared Jackson Junior. I saw a report by Bobby Marx
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Speaker 1: that said, hold on, let me see if I can
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Speaker 1: pull us up really quick. That said, the Grizzlies now
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Speaker 1: have thirteen first round picks in the next seven years,
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Speaker 1: and objectively, some of those picks are just not good
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Speaker 1: first round picks. But it's a good place you want
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Speaker 1: to be if you're gonna do a tear down. They
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Speaker 1: do have said your Calard, they do have Zach Edie,
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Speaker 1: and again they'll have a pick this season. And with
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Speaker 1: trading Jaring away, they're sitting at the ninth spot when
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Speaker 1: it comes to these lottery odds. You know, man, that's
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Speaker 1: why do they always have big ass ads on this website.
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Speaker 1: They're sitting at the nine spot and they could. They
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Speaker 1: could lose more than the Dallas Mavericks Scoper flag. Is
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Speaker 1: that damn good?
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Speaker 2: They can lose? Can they lose more than Milwaukee? That's
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Speaker 2: gonna be time.
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Speaker 1: But there's a war where they end up with the
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Speaker 1: seven best odds right, and you get some lottery like
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Speaker 1: even if you don't get liared, You're like, you just
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Speaker 1: sit where you are. Having a top ten pick in
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Speaker 1: this draft is good. So I'm giving the thumbs up
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Speaker 1: to the Grizzlies for this. Again, just the timing of
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Speaker 1: it all. I just if I'm gonna trade him to
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Speaker 1: the Jazz personally, I want to be more of jazz
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Speaker 1: draft capital because it's one of those teams that you
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Speaker 1: know just haven't been good as a recent and you
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Speaker 1: know that that Larry Marketing would be sending and Jaron
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Speaker 1: has a little bit of history, so I would have
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Speaker 1: maybe wanted. But again, you got that in twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 1: Maybe their first year playing together ain't going as good,
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Speaker 1: and Booby got that a lot of pick I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a good swing if you're the Grizzlies.
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Speaker 1: I kind of understand it from the jazz perspective as
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Speaker 1: far as getting the talent in the door, a type
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Speaker 1: of player that the Jazz will never be able to
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Speaker 1: get unless they draft right. They're not gonna go out
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Speaker 1: and on the market and sign a Jared Jackson junior.
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Speaker 1: That was one of the more interesting things originally when
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Speaker 1: Danny Ainge in ownership I forgot his name. By we're
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Speaker 1: saying that they want to be buyers, It's like, how
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Speaker 1: do you become buyers because you don't even though you
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Speaker 1: have cap space, because it really is Larry market and
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Speaker 1: rookie scale deals.
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Speaker 2: How do you buy in the free agency?
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Speaker 1: How do we convince so and so player to come
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Speaker 1: to Utah other than super overpaying. And the reality is
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Speaker 1: you do it via trade, the same model that the
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Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors has been living with for the entirety of
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Speaker 1: their career, that we either after draft this player or
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Speaker 1: we got to trade this player and it might cost
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Speaker 1: us a little bit more, but in order to get
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Speaker 1: people to Utah, that's the way you got to do it.
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Speaker 1: You trade for Mike Carley, you draft well, I guess,
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Speaker 1: you trade for Donva Mitchell. On Draft night, you trade
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Speaker 1: for Rude Goo Beer. On Draft Knight, you trade for Bogdanovitch.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about their last good team. You trade for
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Speaker 1: roy O'Neil. You don't sign those guys you trade for him.
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Speaker 1: So now they're a young core this Jared count is
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Speaker 1: a young core piece anymore. He's been in the NBA
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Speaker 1: for way too long, right, and he's got DPO. Wise,
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Speaker 1: he's not.
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Speaker 2: You can't be a young player with the DPO wide less.
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Speaker 2: You think the Weban.
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Speaker 1: Yama how old is see though he is sitting at
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Speaker 1: twent he's twenty six in theory, they ain't even in
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Speaker 1: his prime yet, so him at twenty six. I think
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Speaker 1: Larry Markin is about twenty seven to twenty eight. Keyance
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Speaker 1: George is like twenty three. Walker Kesher's around the same age.
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Speaker 1: They have a pretty interesting team, but I think there's
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Speaker 1: probably still far away, and maybe they believe that as well,
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Speaker 1: and they still got more not moves if this deadline,
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Speaker 1: but maybe they do overpay to get somebody else on
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Speaker 1: the team, And maybe they are baking pretty heavily on
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Speaker 1: Ace Bailey taking a step for next season, because if
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Speaker 1: as Bailey could be even better next year and Keyante
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Speaker 1: George could be even better season than cool. One thing
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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to and this will be the
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Speaker 1: last point I make, and I do and remind people
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Speaker 1: that these are always my initial reactions.
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Speaker 2: I also have podcasts that our host that are usually
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Speaker 2: more more.
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Speaker 1: Thorough and more thought out, and we will be talking
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Speaker 1: about this on those podcasts.
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Speaker 2: These are my inite reactions.
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Speaker 1: But I'm so happy that Will Hardy is going to
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Speaker 1: have a team, like just a competent team. I think
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Speaker 1: all of us NBA nerds watch the Utah Jazz and
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Speaker 1: though they don't have a ton of talent, and we
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Speaker 1: say to ourselves, hey, man, Will Hardy's good. He's just
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Speaker 1: straight up as a good offensive coach.
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Speaker 2: In my opinion.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he's not, and we'll see when they get this
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Speaker 1: down on the door, but I think he's just a
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Speaker 1: good offensive guy coach. And I think that Havevin Jaron
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Speaker 1: opens up so many opportunities and we get to kind
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Speaker 1: of see who real Hardy is as a coach. So
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a stack about getting the guy of
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Speaker 1: the talent level of this. I really do like, at
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Speaker 1: least in a draft. I can't say I hold an
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Speaker 1: opinion about Walter to Clayton Jr. Now after him being
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Speaker 1: in Utah, let me see what his numbers.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't.
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Speaker 1: If you told me he was averaging ten, I'd be like, Oh,
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Speaker 1: if you told me he was avaging five, I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: and he's averaging seven. So he's a got in the
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Speaker 1: middle there. Offen is not that great, but I liked
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Speaker 1: him coming out out of school. Obviously he's a four
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Speaker 1: year guy, so he doesn't have maybe a ton of upside.
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Speaker 1: I really like Taylor Hendrix coming out of the draft
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Speaker 1: to I'm sure those dudes are gonna end up going
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Speaker 1: to Memphis and playing a lot, especially with and when
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Speaker 1: John Morang gets traded away. The phone is still buzzling.
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Speaker 1: Let me see if this is nothing crazy? Al right,
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Speaker 1: it ain't nothing crazy, all right? The next trade that happened,
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Speaker 1: and thank god I waited because I was eating lunch
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Speaker 1: about the film Miss Jaron video and then boom, this
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Speaker 1: one broke my Chicago Bulls are a part of a trade,
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Speaker 1: and it ends up being the Chicago Bulls. Minnesota and
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Speaker 1: Detroit agree to a multi team deal that will send
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Speaker 1: Jaden Ivy and Mike Conley to Chicago, Kevin Herder and
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Speaker 1: Dariel Sarz to the Pistons.
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Speaker 2: And I said, and I was like, Minnesota, let's start
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Speaker 2: off from Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: WHOA this financially gets them under some of the aprons
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Speaker 1: and Sean Serani have actually quoted I haven't seen that
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Speaker 1: he quotes this.
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Speaker 2: Send the Bulls and Pistons have desired.
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Speaker 1: Okay, whatever soda creates a significant tax saving and roster
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Speaker 1: space as they pursue a Milwaukee star. This week, I
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Speaker 1: tweeted that of all of the potential Yanna spots, to hear
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Speaker 1: y'all talk about Yanni even though this is not about
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Speaker 1: Yianni's all the potential Yannas spots, the one that I'm
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Speaker 1: most interested in is him going to Minnesota. Somebody on
12:16
Speaker 1: Twitter said, Kenny, how about we stopped sending the best
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Speaker 1: players in the world to the Western Conference? I said,
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Speaker 1: you right, But I really do like him potentially being
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Speaker 1: there him and at the Ewards and whatever.
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Speaker 2: Might be left.
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Speaker 1: And this opens up an opportunity to make that happen
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Speaker 1: as far as to getting the financial flexibility of just
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Speaker 1: getting off Mike Colley's contract.
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Speaker 2: And then also they got the roster spot.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know this this might even though this
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Speaker 1: won't look like a fourteen to five team, and this
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Speaker 1: might be the prelude to something even bigger happened in
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota that we only have to wait and see.
12:45
Speaker 1: From Detroit's perspective, they're going to get Kevin Heurder. Kevin
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Speaker 1: Heurder has not shot the ball well in Chicago this season.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, let me look at the numbers. Maybe
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking out of term, but it's somebody that has
12:55
Speaker 1: watched almost every single one of the games.
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Speaker 2: I can tell you them shots ain't going in the
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Speaker 2: way they were.
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Speaker 1: When we first trade of him at the deadline last season.
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Speaker 1: This year he shooted thirty one percent from three. He's
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Speaker 1: a career thirty seven percent guy, so you know he's
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Speaker 1: better than what he's shooting right now. And one of
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Speaker 1: the things I've talked about at nauseum when it came
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Speaker 1: to the Detroit pisses them acquiring more talent and then
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Speaker 1: acquiring three point shooting, and this is kind of a
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Speaker 1: bridge of that. It's not the big move that I
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Speaker 1: would have preferred them to make, because Kevin Herder has
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Speaker 1: a little bit of off the bounce juice. He can
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Speaker 1: run some pick and rolls and stuff, but he also
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Speaker 1: it's probably not a guy that's.
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Speaker 2: Gonna close a lot of games for you.
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Speaker 1: In my mind, when I wanted them to buy a
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Speaker 1: little bit, and it's still in possibility that they do.
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Speaker 1: When I wanted them to buy a little bit, I
13:34
Speaker 1: want them to buy a guy that we know is
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Speaker 1: going to be in their closing five lineup. Kevin Herder
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Speaker 1: might do that on some nights, but the fact that
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Speaker 1: they have Dunci Robinson probably not. He seems like a
13:42
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson two point zero, but basically to come off
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Speaker 1: the bench. I've enjoyed my time and Kevin Herder on Chicago,
13:46
Speaker 1: nothing but well wishes. I enjoyed my time of Dario
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Speaker 1: Sarag's Chicago. These last four days have been amazing. Darry Ooh,
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Speaker 1: I'm happy that you get to go to a team
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Speaker 1: that's trying to win a championships.
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Speaker 2: I tweeted this.
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Speaker 1: I tweeted it that says dare I say the Bulls
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Speaker 1: have won both of I'm sorry their trades.
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Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be his trades.
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Speaker 1: I initially had our tuns cart to show his name
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Speaker 1: in the tweet, but I'd say that this week. Too
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Speaker 1: many guards right now, so there'll probably be more moves.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the Bulls got in and got two second
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Speaker 1: round picks to get Dario and flip Dario and Kevin
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Speaker 1: Hurder to get j Nivy. Now, I've watched a ton
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Speaker 1: of Pissons this season because they was one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite teams to watch. It just did the league pass
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Speaker 1: racing on the rating on the podcast, and I had
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Speaker 1: the Pistons as one of my six favorite teams to
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Speaker 1: watch right And I've watched because of that the thirty
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Speaker 1: three hen Realiss thirty three games, most of the thirty
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Speaker 1: three games, and Jay ninety and I will say I'm
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Speaker 1: excited about the Bulls have done over the last year.
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Speaker 1: Have tried their very best to continue to add reclamation projects,
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Speaker 1: guys that may have been lottery picks or whatever at
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Speaker 1: their previous team and it didn't work out, and maybe
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Speaker 1: you come to Chicago and you can get better.
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Speaker 2: This season.
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Speaker 1: J n Ivy off the bounds has not been nearly
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Speaker 1: what he was the previous years, and it makes sense.
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Speaker 1: He did he break his leg. He's not forgetting exactly
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Speaker 1: what the injury balls, but I'm pretty sure he broke
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Speaker 1: his legs, snapped his leg or something, and a lot
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Speaker 1: of his juice the first couple of years of his
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Speaker 1: career was based on that speed, in that athleticism. He's
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Speaker 1: one year removed from that, So I don't know if
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Speaker 1: that means that like he'll never get it back. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but the Bulls are baking on him being
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Speaker 1: able to do that because as of right now, his
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Speaker 1: catch and shoot numbers are insane.
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Speaker 2: Right, He's still really.
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Speaker 1: Good off ball, but if he can't beat his defender
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Speaker 1: off the dribble, then it limits what his potential ceiling
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Speaker 1: could be.
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Speaker 2: I think the Bulls still have at least won Mo
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Speaker 2: move because the.
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Speaker 1: Bulls depth chart, Oh my god, Josh Yaty, Trey Jones, Ayodasumu,
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Speaker 1: Kobe White, Mike Conley, who Jay Nive.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm forgetting.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm forgetting somebody that's like six guards
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Speaker 1: and all of them are like real point guards of combos.
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Speaker 1: So there is there is a real trade to be
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Speaker 1: done again.
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Speaker 2: For the Bulls.
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Speaker 1: But I'm excited to see j and Ivy here. There's
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Speaker 1: no series attacks because you didn't give anything up, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, so like hypothetically, if he comes here and
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Speaker 1: over the.
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Speaker 2: Next thirty games, it ain't really it.
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Speaker 1: No big deal. You can just let him walk. You know,
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Speaker 1: we gave up nothing. We gave up nothing for so
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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at this reclamation project. I hope because
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Speaker 1: he's on my team now that he ends up being
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Speaker 1: as that he ends up being as great as like
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Speaker 1: maybe he was two years ago, or like what did
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Speaker 1: he average last season before he ended up with that injury.
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Speaker 2: I know him and Kate didn't necessarily work out together. Ivy.
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Speaker 2: How do you spell ivy? I'm drawing a blank. There
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Speaker 2: we go.
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Speaker 1: Last year, Jade and Ivy averaged he avered seventeen points
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Speaker 1: per game.
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Speaker 2: And I remember last year.
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Speaker 1: When I was driving home from the podcast, I was
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Speaker 1: listening to to a Detroit Pistons pod, and for whatever reason,
16:41
Speaker 1: I normally don't listen to team specific, but like something
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Speaker 1: had happened with the Pistons and they were mentioning how
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Speaker 1: jadeen Ivy stats without Kid as far as how many
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Speaker 1: ball screens he's running on ball versus when he's with
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Speaker 1: k It was like, I'm making these numbers.
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Speaker 2: Up five a game to twenty a game.
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Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see what Billy don to make
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Speaker 1: a potentially cook up with him being a guy that can,
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Speaker 1: you know, create for himself and maybe being a little
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Speaker 1: bit more pick and rolls in his previous spot. I
17:07
Speaker 1: also made this tweet showcasing some of the cards in
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Speaker 1: my car collection. This is so funny because if you
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Speaker 1: subscribe to my other channels you may have seen. I
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Speaker 1: just pulled this Jaden Ivy kaboom card like two days ago.
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Speaker 1: I bought this doing Sinay five to five on card Otto.
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Speaker 1: I just got this kaboom Midus Bozellis from a card show.
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Speaker 1: I got this one from Castro, the soccer creator on
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Speaker 1: the platform. Shout out to Castro and then Patrick Williams
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Speaker 1: one of one, which I thought was funny to just
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Speaker 1: throw in there, because no matter what, Patrick Williams is
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Speaker 1: gonna stay on this team.
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Speaker 2: So if I am let's go back, let's go back.
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Speaker 1: If I am greating this from the bulls perspective about
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Speaker 1: giving a B plus to A, I think we did
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Speaker 1: a pretty good job there. If I'm greatness from A
17:46
Speaker 1: Minnesota's an I for it complete because it's what you
17:49
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, Colley's definitely staple in that city.
17:51
Speaker 1: He's a staple with that team. He was a vocal
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Speaker 1: leader and though his season has not been great, you
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Speaker 1: can tell the like he still brought some organization.
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Speaker 2: To that team.
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Speaker 1: So I for incomplete because then it is maybe turned
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Speaker 1: into something else. And then for the Pistons, you gave
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Speaker 1: up on j and Ivy, who he assumed just didn't
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Speaker 1: have many much value, averaging eight points per game, and
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Speaker 1: going into free agency. He turned to Kevin Herder, who also,
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Speaker 1: we're going to free agency. C maybe it's got some upside.
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Speaker 1: This definitely got some upside. And then the first trade,
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Speaker 1: the Jaron's got to do you trade. I'm giving it
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Speaker 1: an A from the Grizzlies' perspective, get your draft capital,
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Speaker 1: hit your draft picks. And then from the Jazz I'll
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Speaker 1: give it like a C plus, mostly because of the
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Speaker 1: timing of it. And I think I have to wait
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Speaker 1: to see how they delegate his minutes and his games
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Speaker 1: play right, if they can somehow convince Jaren to like
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Speaker 1: sit for the slow key spraining ankle in his first
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Speaker 1: game back, and he says for the rest of the season,
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Speaker 1: and they retain a top eight pick, and they do
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Speaker 1: something that oh, one of my sources.
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Speaker 2: Just hit me, Oh wow, wow.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to end this video sources are saying, wow, okay, okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: I might just know. I might be back filming another
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Speaker 1: video today because the sources are sourcing