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Xenomania Episode One - Nosferatu 2024 · Xenomania

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Intro: Yeah, they're dead.
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They're all messed up.
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You wouldn't give her that flower, would you?
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One of us, one of us, one of us, one of us.
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No, be afraid.
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Be very afraid.
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Ryan : out.
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Kearns: He's the Van Helsing style guy.
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Ryan : uh,
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Kearns: that it?
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Ryan : like Dracula, dead and loving it, uh, he's like his,
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like, sidekick, his helper.
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stuff.
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Kearns: We need a ghoul.
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Jon: that character in the first one with, um, Nock, the, uh, Hutter's boss.
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They sort of combined Renfield into that character.
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Kearns: right.
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Jon: does a lot, he does a lot of, like, Renfield stuff during the original.
1:05
guessing they did.
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I'm guessing they didn't put Renfield in because they were stealing so much
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Ryan : in,
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Kearns: Fair.
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Jon: he's
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Yeah, and he's
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he's he's in he's in the um, Werner Herzog one too,
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but less significantly.
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Ryan : I feel like you need a good Renfield in order to make it go whole.
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Even, like, in the book, when you read Bram Stoker's book, it's like,
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Renfield's a key piece into it, you know?
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the diary entries, it's like, you know,
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Renfield just
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ate a book, and
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it's like, He is losing
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slowly but surely.
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Jon: nosferatu orlok
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Kearns: Chewing on the cuticle.
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Jon: we're calling him, needs that because he can't do it in the day.
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He needs his
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ghouls were just early forms of slavery,
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Jon: or late
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Ryan : that's what it 2024.
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You just heard a whole bunch about it.
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And ghouls.
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You know, I, we were talking about, you know,
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if they ever had to set up a union or something, definitely
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Igor would be the head of it.
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Renfield would be Like the cove captain.
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nod mean, that's how it'd go.
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Kearns: Are we unionizing ghouls?
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First Amazon, now ghouls?
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Ryan : You can even go with the fallout going on, man.
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Like they're unionized in the show.
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Former actors there,
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Walter Goggins, not to
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Kearns: I have no idea about a union strike in Fallout.
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Jon: of ghouls would work.
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None of them have any independent thoughts.
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They'd all just wind up doing what their
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Kearns: The.
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Ryan : have you seen mean, come on
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Jon: I mean, sure,
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Ryan : side to
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Jon: Renfield needs a dietician to kick his bug habit.
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Kearns: So these are all nods to show for those listening.
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This isn't a bit.
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I am an affable nitwit.
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I know very little about horror and horror history compared to these two gentlemen.
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So I'm gonna be asking a lot of clarifying questions.
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So are these ghoulish characters from the original iterations, entirely?
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Jon: Shrek version.
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He is sort of encompassed into a side character named Nock,
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and out of the movie briefly,
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Ryan : kind of like a, he's like a mix.
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He's got like the esque to him, but he's also, um, Thomas Holt's boss,
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uh, Harker in the Dracula version,
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Kearns: Okay.
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Jon: who is, uh,
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so Hutter in the original is the Harker character, know, and that's
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sort of another nod to we're stealing and trying not caught.
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Kearns: Got it.
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So that's a reference listeners to the fact that Nosferatu is a blatant rip
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off hell Bram Stoker's Dracula, which is hilarious to me for a lot of reasons.
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But I do notice there are, there are subtle, subtle imaginative and original
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things in Nosferatu compared to Dracula.
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he's ugly as shit.
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For starters,
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Ryan : he's literally a rat with wings.
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like, a
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Kearns: Yeah,
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Ryan : iconic image.
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I mean, it's definitely They took the look of it, um, and he,
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Kearns: You mean?
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Yeah, the character Barlow.
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Ryan : and stuff
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and that's
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan : Trex, Count Orlok.
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Kearns: Oh yeah, big time.
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There's a few different ones too, and I guess they went that way because
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they wanted more of a monster, less of a Don Juan, because Dracula
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in, in a lot of ways, iterations, especially today, is like out of a
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telenovela with the greased back hair and everything, he comes in, Maria,
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Jon: He's a
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Kearns: stuff like that.
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I like Nosferatu's, like, way.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And I mean, that's the way it's supposed to be, in a lot of ways, but
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Nosferatu does that in, in he has a love interest and it's a lot more rapey
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and gross.
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Ryan : well he's he's a, he's a plague.
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That's why he's so ugly.
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Um, Like.
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The long fingers, he's like trying to grab everyone into his grasp.
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And the thing is, is he's bringing death.
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And that's what like, I think gravitates a lot of horror fans
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in this vampire realm, in this realm at least, is he brings death.
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While Dracula, it's a little, there's a lot of romanticism in it.
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Because it's like, he falls in love with the women, the women love him, He's got
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the wives.
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And it's
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like, it grows where he's like, Populating vampires and Orlox
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just killing everyone off.
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He's
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like be honest.
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He's screwed this this this is it
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man
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Kearns: And he just goes after it.
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Jon: wants more vampires And
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Orlok wants to
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watch the world burn.
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Kearns: I mean, that's actually pretty cool distinction between the two.
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I
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like that
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a lot.
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Jon: that's what he is.
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He's a destroyer.
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I
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Kearns: because because Johnny Depp's daughter is lonely.
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Is that kind of the beginning premise like it kicks off?
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She's she's like, I'm so sad and he just pops up.
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Ryan : So believe they, they're connecting it with and stuff with the new one.
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Um, Cause it's like, see, like, he's like calling to her and
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she's like, got this attraction.
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And especially scene where the, the blood, the tears of blood are falling down.
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I was just like, it's glued to me because of the fact that it's this,
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she's seeing whatever's appear.
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So there's like a it, which again, connected to the Dracula mythos.
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Um, Connects to the Nosferatu from 1979
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with Kaczynski.
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it's a nice, it's a nice, uh, jump plus Eggers.
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This So he did not want to fluff this up.
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Kearns: I don't either based on the early reviews, it seems like a lot
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of, it's funny because people who like Norseman dig this and say that like,
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you know, it's not, it's not It's not his best work, but it's really good.
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And then there's the people who like, hate Norsemen,
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and they have like a rage boner against Lighthouse and stuff like that.
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They are not fans of this.
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And I was like, well, of course not.
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You're, you don't know what art is, you swine.
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Jon: the and that's got to come up on the on
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our
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Kearns: Okay.
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Jon: some point.
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Because Cold Skin is,
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Kearns: It sounds like a,
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Jon: more bizarre movies you'll see
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Kearns: it sounds like,
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okay.
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Ryan : there's skinning involved
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Jon: there.
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Kearns: I was going to say, it sounds like
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something you'd see on Cinemax at two 30 in the morning.
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Oh,
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Jon: minus most of the serve as the main character's slash maybe interest?
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Kearns: so, all right.
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I'm getting, I'm getting some good stuff there.
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Okay.
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So I can see why that, why lighthouse takes second place, fog, the fog.
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Ryan : Film.
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The Fog is
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Kearns: I was going to say.
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Ryan : John, uh, John Carpenter.
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why I was like, skin, skin.
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know.
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The Fog does not compare to skin.
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Skin's got a good premise.
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Kearns: He's like, I dunno, he's real hit or miss when it comes to certain
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things and certain like tastes.
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But this thing looks solid.
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And from what I'm hearing, some, he took some liberties that may
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have panned out pretty well.
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I mean, people are already talking about award season contention.
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I Skarsgard might get.
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Best supporting Lily Rose Depp might get Amber Heard as her next stepmother.
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No, I'm just kidding.
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She might get an Academy Award for Best Leading Actress in a Horror Film.
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I don't think that's ever happened.
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So, those are,
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Ryan : because like a lot of people don't recognize that in that category and to
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see it win an academy award, it's just showing how the film industry is changing
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overall and they're seeing how much like
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overall different
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genres are art to see that
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Jon: you'll.
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Kearns: Shape of, one to really kick the door open with that.
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Jon: silence of the lambs.
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I don't believe silence of the lambs is a horror movie But you get people that.
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do you got a jodie
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Kearns: was in red dragon as the reporter.
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I can't think of his name right now.
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It's driving me crazy.
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you.
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All right.
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so I'm going to get roll now.
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So it's Christmas Eve and we're wrapping presents, getting everything
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finished up and everything.
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I, I threw on red dragon cause that's like comfort food for me.
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So it's Kim looks up while she's putting together Charlie's present
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over there in the corner of the room.
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It's like this whole little kitchenette thing.
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It's like a mini apartment.
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It's probably nicer than most studios in New York city.
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And,
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And Philip fire going down the street and she's like, what are it's Christmas?
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What are you doing?
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And I was like, I don't know.
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I just like, like it
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Jon: a Christmas movie.
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Kearns: so yeah, I can't believe I forgot.
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I forgot about about silence of the lambs
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Jon: big, but I don't consider horror, so it doesn't count.
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Ryan : That's what I
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Kearns: Okay.
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Jon: a
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thriller, too.
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Kearns: Shape of water isn't horror either.
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Jon: a
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Kearns: to be honest with you.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You could have made the,
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I
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thought that Pan's Labyrinth should have made a bigger
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splash than it did, obviously.
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I I'll beat this drum until I die.
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That one could probably be called horror.
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But even that's dark fantasy.
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Horror adjacent fantasy.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Tangent over.
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Back to the bald vampire guy.
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Ryan : So, just to say, you know it's gonna be filmed in, uh, it
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was already filmed in, Dolby Cinema and IMAX, but this is the cool
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part, it's gonna, it's filmed in
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select theaters in cool.
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That granniness,
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Kearns: Oh, sweet!
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Ryan : I don't know.
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I feel like to make it like the lighthouse, I'll say this.
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I am a big fan of the lighthouse.
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I love the Lovecraftian, Willem Dafoe's amazing.
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Um, see the pops in the film when you watch it.
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if
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that's the same thing with
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Jon: Yeah.
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that was the weird thing about watching the 1922
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Kearns: Yeah!
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Jon: on Blu ray, how clean it looks.
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And it
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really shouldn't look that clean.
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Kearns: That's right.
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Max, Shrek and Isaiah.
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Do you guys remember the salad fingers guy with the little spoon fingers or whatever?
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Ryan : salad, was it salad fingers?
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The soo spoons.
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I
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: was, fingers are the only thing in the costume that was
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better in the, in Nosferatu the vampire than in the original.
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They got
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the fingers right, but the head was too smooth.
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And the, the, the, well, the
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Kearns: the head moves
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too smooth.
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Jon: round.
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He's like all kind of messed up.
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And then Werner Hirsak made it like almost like perfectly round and it
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doesn't quite work for the character, but the hands and the fingers are better.
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Ryan : I was going to say the
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NOS4A2, uh, it's the one.
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It was directed It's
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basically
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Kearns: Fingers matter.
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Ryan : shot remake It's a shot That remake of the film, uh, with It just looks,
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it, it, it's not it's not Orlok It's like very moderate if I can say that.
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Set with pieces.
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the
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Jon: 1922 yeah
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Ryan : You know, like, I don't, I feel like Shrek, um,
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Kinski, artist had a down pat.
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I'm curious on how, Skarsgard will look because he looked amazing as Pennywise.
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Um, being a big Tim Curry fan, stole that
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show and I, I know he's going To,
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Kearns: He, he, he crushed it as penny wise.
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He heavily, heavily supported by CGI,
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And stuff like that To, to
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give our nod back to the late great Tim Curry.
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Jon: Oh,
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Kearns: But
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Jon: Yeah, you killed Tim Curry
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Kearns: Oh, Jesus.
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Yeah.
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It was Kearns in the office with the idiots.
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Shit.
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That was a Clue reference, by the way, people.
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Ryan : raid us now?
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Stop!
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Kearns: Maybe.
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It would
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Oh my god.
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Ryan : Body?
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Kearns: Tim Curry.
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Ryan : killed Mr.
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Body.
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Kearns: Damn.
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I didn't know he had a stroke, though.
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That sucks.
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Anyway, back to fun stuff.
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So, Skarsgard.
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Skarsgård playing, like, all of the movie villains and stuff like that is gonna be,
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that's gonna be interesting to see what he ends up getting cast in next because
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if he crushes Orlok, he, he much crushed You know that there's continuous casting.
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Meanwhile, his brother's being cast in movies where it's like, we need
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your pecs to be oiled up immediately
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and you have to kill other Northmen.
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Ryan : vampirism runs in the family.
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Cause uh, what do you call it?
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Um, uh, Skarsgard his brother, uh, was Eric Northman
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and true blood, funny enough
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Kearns: He's the lesser Skarsgard.
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He played Randall Flagg
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into the ground in the
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remake of The Stand the TV show, did the worst Flagg.
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Ryan : that.
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Kearns: He was so bad.
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Ryan : Cause it's like the
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Skarsgards always need one.
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It's like the
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Baldwin There's always one.
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Jon: Yeah,
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Kearns: I'd say Bill's good.
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Yeah,
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Jon: Howards, uh, Clint Howard is
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far and away the superior Howard.
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Ron is like the lesser
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Howard.
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Kearns: I mean, I can't argue with that.
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Ryan : I agree with that.
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I do like Clint Howard.
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Kearns: the guy who raises his hand a lot in class.
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It's the teacher to like him.
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He's like, I'll be a director.
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Jon: at the end of class when everyone just wants to leave and it's like,
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Okay, does anybody have any questions before we dismiss and his hand goes up
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and You want to kick him in the ass?
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Kearns: He's like, you forgot about the homework that we were supposed to hand in.
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And then like, everybody's going to kick his ass later.
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That's Ron Howard
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Jon: ha.
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Kearns: Ron Howard is slowly transforming into Clint Howard by looks.
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I've noticed that like his face, they look like that dinosaur with the hard
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head when I don't know what it's called.
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They smash heads together.
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Both of them look like that now.
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Ryan : But Clint's always looked like that.
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He still looks the same Ron as you're saying Ron's involved
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especially in that happy day skit He's just a total version of him.
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It's just it's scary.
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just scary actually watching Clint Howard came up on my Instagram.
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It was from silent night deadly night for I did not know, I did not know he was in
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on it, and he just walks in on a couple,
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TV, to watch a killer Santa Claus, and it's just like, it's a horrible line,
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Jon: Silent Night, Deadly four diminishing
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Kearns: that's what he does.
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Ryan : Yes.
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Kearns: God, so Bill Skarsgård is the younger brother, I think,
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or he just feels that way.
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Oh, he is the younger brother.
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I do think he's more talented, but him coming in with the Pennywise voice.
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That's what really sold Pennywise was
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the
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Skarsgård who's going to do the Pennywise impression for everybody.
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Jon: I don't
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Kearns: Georgie
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pulls that out,
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Ryan : Georgie.
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Kearns: trademark infringement.
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Now it just sounds like Yoda.
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Ryan : like Georgie, know, I don't know, Tim Kerr.
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I got
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Kearns: That's better.
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Ryan : down got the
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high
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Skarsgard And now there's going to be no, there's going to be no lines in
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Nosferatu for Skarsgard that doesn't necessarily make it an easy gig, right?
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But he doesn't, he's probably not going to speak.
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I don't think Oh, well of course he did in the Herzog one.
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I hope
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Ryan : it was, it
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Jon: Oh man,
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Kearns: damnit.
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I hope it was Herzog's Voice
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Jon: oil and water, man, they made some great movies together.
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but,
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I found this movie, but, um, was the star again.
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They worked together like five times.
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and he's quit and quit.
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So finally Werner Herzog threatened to shoot him eight times
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Kearns: eight
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that, see, it's the specificity
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Jon: gonna shoot you eight times and then myself once That's how that's how
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Kearns: That's pretty good.
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Jon: was But
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Ryan : I'm gonna
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Kearns: That's amazing.
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Ryan : then shoot myself.
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can I
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Kearns: Herzog
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tells you
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Jon: that's just like There's about how big a pain in the ass Kensey
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was to work with on top of all his outside of movie scumbagness.
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was,
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you know, so
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Kearns: Oh yeah.
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Ryan : was
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a
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Jon: Go ahead, Ryan.
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Ryan : say Vampire and
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Jon: Mm hmm.
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Mm hmm.
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So,
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um, he was making a
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movie in 86 for a producer named Roberto
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Bessio, who Wanted to fire him and was
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told by the by the movie company.
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You can't fire kinski That's why we're making this movie because we want
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him That's how awful was to work with
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Kearns: Oh wow.
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I
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mean, I can sympathize
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Jon: but like It's just
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Kearns: we've all
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Jon: I kind of want that on my tombstone,
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Kearns: Remember that just in case.
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Ryan : the characters portrayed.
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Kearns: If I go first, though, john, I'm stealing it and there's
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not gonna because you can't do anything about it at that point.
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Jon: seen, will
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Kearns: All right.
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So you guys have seen both films the original, the remake, the remaster of
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the original counts as the original, and then the max Shrek, right?
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So I'm the only one who's actually seen footage
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Ryan : in?
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Kearns: I did a little bit.
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So for the people listening, I I went with my wife and two boys to see Sonic three,
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which is a riveting film, a riveting film.
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It basically ripped off.
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alert.
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And it's a total ripoff of like all of the plotlines from Dragon Ball Z movies,
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specifically movies, not like of it, but my wife made me shut up about it.
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She's like, stop talking about this topic.
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So I went out.
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Well, I wasn't sitting next to her.
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This was after the movie on the ride home, which is ready to kill me.
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So I leave the theater.
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I leave the theater to go to the bathroom quote, quote, and I walked right in and
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I walked pivotal point in the movie.
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It's visually appealing to say the least it's it's color, but it black and white.
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They and so expertly well, and it puts such a Bleak, bleak atmosphere together.
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And Willem Dafoe's character was on screen a bit there standing like awkwardly in
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the corner, like not unlike Orlok maybe.
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And job.
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Yeah.
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Just like, yes, for research for the podcast.
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And he does it, he's.
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He's like a when he's on screen, you just have to stare at him the costume design,
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the way the way he speaks in the film,
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you're just on him the whole time.
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it looks really good.
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Ryan : from what you saw?
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Cause I was getting with.
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Kearns: It's not, yeah, he's very science y.
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So yeah, he's like the only one, you know, the trope is he's like, to be
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the only living human who knows about vampires and he just goes into like
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how every little bit of lore you might know from these things whatnot, But
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that's not really what I was seeing.
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This is mostly.
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But that is the vibe his character was giving off for sure.
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Like the dude who doesn't deserve to live through the third act kind
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of thing because he knows too much.
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It'd be too boring.
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But yeah, I was like, I'm gonna make them jealous.
20:10
I came to whipping out the foam, but then I was like No, to upkeep.
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Ryan : was, I was
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Kearns: I won't do it.
20:15
Ryan : like, yeah, I found a seat.
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I sat there, they were was.
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I said, give me a minute, watch the whole film.
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Kearns: I was gone for like 10 minutes.
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And I was I was on a candy mission.
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And the thing that brought me to To the idea was that it was our
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people in the concession line.
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um, and then I came out and I was like, all right, okay.
20:36
I see some, some gauges and ears and some odd piercings and these are
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my nosferatu So I just walked in.
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Jon: you very much.
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So, uh, you can also jump to and I've just started uh, a new project called
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And then back to my and I'm and I'm going to show you what it looks like.
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Okay.
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Ryan : And,
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Jon: Okay.
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Kearns: You can't cast him as a German.
22:04
Ryan : Hood with a British
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Kearns: It's just,
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right.
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It's insane.
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Ryan : say
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Kearns: Carrie Elwes.
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Ryan : Kyr,
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in this
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film too, as well, by the way.
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If you're not familiar with Udo Kyr, he's in a
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great
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movie called Blade.
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It's an action film.
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I don't know if you guys
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agree action film,
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Jon: It's not a horror movie.
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It's not a horror movie.
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Kearns: Blade is a hundred percent an action movie.
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Yeah.
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The soundtrack is pure techno.
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It's pure techno.
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It has to be an action movie.
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I remember I used to run to the frigging blood rave scene music
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on like, it would go into like limp biscuits, Fred Durst crap.
22:47
Like, Oh my God.
22:48
I remember that like it was yesterday blade.
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So who does he play in blade?
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The beardy bunch.
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Ryan : Udokir, he plays one of the high vampires where has
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him him
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Kearns: of course.
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Ryan : in the sun's coming up.
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He's like, you're going to feel the heat to be your first time
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and it'll be your last time.
23:03
Just great writing.
23:04
I, I, I mean, I, I got a heart special
23:07
place in my heart for Blade on that one.
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Kearns: Career defining role.
23:11
I like when when Stephen Dorff turns into a big pimple and pops at the end.
23:15
That's fun.
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Ryan : best one is the part with the UV light vampire,
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they
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Kearns: Oh yeah.
23:23
Ryan : me.
23:23
He's like, you're on your own, have
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fun.
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just lights them up.
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Kearns: Blade was iconic, but yeah, John's rights.
23:31
I mean,
23:32
there's so much stuff that flirts with horror, that tries to cherry
23:35
pick all the good out of horror, but appeal to other fans, and I
23:38
have no problem with genre bending, especially in writing, but with movies,
23:44
It's hard to pull off.
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Ryan : Cause there's, there's always that talk
23:48
on it.
23:49
Like what's vampire.
23:50
What's not vampire.
23:51
Like Nosferatu, right?
23:53
It's a horror film, but then you look at Dracula.
23:55
Dracula is definitely a horror film, but
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some people like
23:59
Francis Ford Coppola's one consider.
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in its
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own line
24:04
Jon: I I, think when you're
24:06
putting
24:06
Kearns: It's tricky.
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Jon: in front of horror, like romantic horror, probably not horror anymore.
24:15
Kearns: no, that's like the, the has kind of thing.
24:18
year old centaur pushed her up against the tree and all the housewives are
24:22
like, Ooh, it's fantasy And it's, it's porn, But blade is an action movie.
24:29
Nosferatu is definitely a horror movie.
24:32
I can definitely stand by that.
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Though,
24:34
that it's gonna go a little light.
24:36
It's gonna, be like, the marker is almost gonna, there's a lot of
24:39
exposition in this, based on the reviews, and I think there's not
24:43
gonna be a lot of traditional scaries.
24:45
Jon: thing I'm most having seen it, is the runtime.
24:50
The original, the original Nosferatu,
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Kearns: yeah.
24:52
Jon: Yeah, the original Nosferatu is 95 minutes.
24:55
Granted, There's no talking.
24:58
There's
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Kearns: Depp, she's in a lot of, a lot of the film.
25:01
So that probably is the case that hers, she's got to have an existential crisis.
25:05
She's got to fall in love, fall out of love.
25:07
She's got to, and all those things probably have to happen.
25:11
She probably got a
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bit,
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Ryan : the,
25:13
Kearns: right?
25:13
Somebody has got to get bit.
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Ryan : Hutter through all of the Nosferatu, she's the character
25:18
is the key to the whole thing.
25:21
she's the key to Nosferatu, not just, just in general for
25:25
everything that's occurring.
25:26
And I mean, her growth as the character is in it.
25:31
I feel like it's going to focus on that, but like Robert
25:34
Eggert is very like cinematic.
25:37
He loves like those big shots,
25:39
like thinking of the lighthouse.
25:40
It was like a lot of still shots here, there,
25:42
and developing slowly, but surely.
25:44
And I think that's what
25:46
time is dedicated
25:47
Jon: hmm.
25:48
Ryan : know, there's a lot, you know, there will be a lot of
25:50
exposition,
25:50
but then it's going to be like a wide shot of London you know, and
25:55
that pull in or the castle and just like scenes and stuff just to
25:59
build up that horror.
26:01
Along
26:01
with the cinematic music in it,
26:02
school style.
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Jon: Yeah, but too long.
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Yeah,
26:09
Kearns: be.
26:10
like, yeah, great explanation.
26:11
It's too long.
26:12
Um, you're like, I, I understand why it could be too long, but it's too long.
26:18
Jon: be doing something really special to keep my attention over two hours.
26:23
Kearns: I mean,
26:25
fair.
26:26
That's fair.
26:26
Especially these days too.
26:27
It's getting in one sitting and I was so proud of myself.
26:30
Jon: because I, know in one sitting, and I don't like watching movies in
26:36
settings.
26:37
Ryan : in
26:37
two years, we're going to have an epic with Christopher Nolan's, the odyssey in
26:41
2026 or technically,
26:44
I mean,
26:44
the odyssey is going to be four hours long.
26:47
No, one's going to be like sitting
26:49
in theaters for
26:51
Jon: You have to have, you have to go back to the days of an intermission.
26:55
movie
26:56
in a,
26:57
a with an intermission.
26:59
Kearns: Maybe which wouldn't be a bad idea.
27:01
Braveheart wasn't Braveheart.
27:03
Like four hours plus it was two of VHS tapes.
27:07
Yeah.
27:09
Wow.
27:11
I want to get into ageism here.
27:14
But when did the right stuff come out?
27:17
Jon: 83, 84 ish?
27:20
Kearns: Ryan wasn't born yet
27:22
Jon: No.
27:23
Kearns: was not yet born.
27:25
And I was I was is swaddled
27:28
with just out.
27:30
The John.
27:33
Wow,
27:35
Jon: Yep.
27:36
Kearns: there was a, there's a local movie theater And it's super easy to
27:39
sneak walk in and just open the back door.
27:41
Jon: It, at that point.
27:44
Definitely shame though.
27:46
Kearns: So we're pumped about Nosferatu coming out.
27:50
What's coming down the pipe that you guys are excited about?
27:53
Jon: So I'll rep the shirt.
27:55
They're competing return to the living dead movies coming.
28:00
Yeah.
28:01
Kearns: Oh
28:01
sweet.
28:03
Jon: that's one seems to be, homage to the original and the other one
28:08
seems to be just else trying to do it too, you know, there's a,
28:14
Kearns: Okay.
28:15
No rules, baby.
28:17
Ryan : or,
28:18
I'm just saying Living Dead, Nosferatu, all that, and it's remaking or as well
28:23
Jon: yeah, Okay.
28:30
Okay.
28:35
Okay.
28:40
Kearns: about that.
28:41
It wasn't the greatest movie in the world, but you know what it was?
28:44
It was new.
28:47
It was new.
28:48
I'm not letting him in anywhere, dude.
28:51
I was terrified when he was, he was bouncing around in the yard.
28:56
I didn't need the twist.
28:57
I didn't need to know any of the other crap that was going on.
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Ryan : barbarian and just like going to Wisconsin and going
29:03
to like a BNB and Airbnb and
29:05
seeing barbarian.
29:06
Yeah.
29:07
That like, doors on That,
29:08
Kearns: Yeah, that's a good one too.
29:10
That's a good one.
29:11
, the hills have eyes.
29:12
Kind of vibe.
29:13
It felt vibey a little bit.
29:16
, but it was a pretty original idea.
29:17
It's based on a true story.
29:20
account of a, a man who was living in the walls of a house and
29:24
terrorizing the family, two daughters.
29:26
And yeah, it was for a long time too.
29:27
behind the, he was, like behind the dryer.
29:30
There was a way for him to get in and he was, he was, planning on killing them.
29:35
And he even revealed himself police like didn't believe him.
29:37
They staked house, but he was still in the house.
29:39
It was nuts.
29:40
It's a nutty story.
29:41
I forget the, I probably need to give the fan something on
29:44
that one, but it's a, it's a Mr.
29:46
Ballin.
29:46
We'll just throw one, throw one out there.
29:48
Mr.
29:48
Ballin has a review on it or something on the YouTube there.
29:52
But what I'm excited about Is since we're talking about fast
29:55
moving, angry things, cause we're not going to call them zombies.
29:58
We're going to go over this in a future episode, but 28
30:01
years later coming out soon.
30:03
I'm actually excited about that.
30:04
And only because I want to see how they decide to get this thing off that island.
30:10
Is it going to be the angriest ship boat captain ever?
30:13
Ryan : I Feel like Killian Murphy's got that, vibe.
30:16
He's got a cool vibe.
30:18
Kearns: he's got a good bitch face.
30:20
Resting bitch face, I should say.
30:22
You ever see him look at the royal family?
30:26
You would think if an actor would hide it better.
30:29
Yeah, he's an Irishman who's not happy
30:32
Jon: Yeah.
30:33
Kearns: treatment of Ireland.
30:36
All right.
30:36
Rapid fire question for you to, Skarsgård down with a bad case of diabetes and
30:40
he couldn't be in Nosferatu movie.
30:43
Who would you cast instead?
30:45
Christopher Waltz
30:48
Ryan : actor.
30:48
He is the Dr.
30:49
Schultz from Django Django Unchained with,
30:53
also from, I was gonna say Inglorious Bastards, man.
30:57
That's where
30:57
Kearns: There you go.
30:59
That'll do it
30:59
Ryan : his evilness from that
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Kearns: Yeah, he's the, he's the angry German who kills everybody at the
31:04
beginning of Inglourious Bastards.
31:06
I'm sure I'll throw a picture of him up on the screen for you guys,
31:08
but nobody knows this guy's name.
31:10
He's like one of the best living actors probably.
31:12
And
31:12
Ryan : smoking a pipe that's like that big ass pipe from the beginning, with the
31:17
makeup, just the pointy ears, like, no,
31:21
no, she's got the accent already.
31:22
Kearns: Okay, okay.
31:24
Jon: Howard Thornton from Terrifier.
31:26
Kearns: Terrifier reference.
31:27
Of course, it couldn't be an episode without a Terrifier reference.
31:31
That was a quick rundown of Nosferatu 2024 from three guys who haven't seen it yet,
31:38
which is probably good for you guys because we can't spoil
31:41
it we'll probably reference it
31:42
and what we thought about it in our next episode or maybe one further down the line
31:46
Until then, we hope you guys enjoyed hearing us talk about how much we love
31:50
all things horror, and don't forget to go out and watch Nosferatu 2024.
31:54
Let us know what you think.
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Jon: See ya!