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X-Men '97 Episode Ten Review, Reaction & Recap "Tolerance Is Extinction - Part Three" · For All Nerds Show

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  But we are back for the hurts, say the finale of season one of
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  X Men ninety seveer seven seven seven. It hurts, but it feels so
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  good if oh true, indeed true, indeed stuck the land and my nigga
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  like ah tens from the judges. You know what I mean? They did
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  their Simone Biles, they did there we go, Thank you. I was
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  thinking of a gymnast and you got it for me. Yes, yes,
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  tens from the judges. Even Russia had to give it up across the board,
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  you know, Russia always behaving nine point two eight point nine, nigga
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  fuck out here, no tens across the board, you know. I I
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  don't really think I have complaints. Fam. I was telling a friend of
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  mine, shout out to my brother, DJ Analyze. I was talking to
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  him last week and DJ Analyzed is as his name says, DJ Analyze,
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  very analytical brother. And he's always telling me that I over hype certain things,
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  right like I told him, and Or is the best thing Star Wars
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  has probably done since Empire strikes Back, you know. And he's like,
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  what you talk about? He stiesn't watch it. So I'm like, well,
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  you know, you just don't know. I was like, not to
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  over hype X Men ninety seven, but I fully believe at this point it
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  is the best representation of X Men ever done besides the comic books. Like
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  I really enjoyed Logan, I really enjoyed a lot of those X Men films.
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  I'm not a hater of the X Men and the Black Leather. I
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  thought that was dope for its time. We talked about that with the earth
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  Tone King. Shout out to that brother who had a lot of you know,
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  as always, anyone who joins us on this show is an expert to
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  you. Yes, salutes the earth Tone who called a lot of things in
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  this episode. You know, So anyone we bring around here is on an
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  expert Earth turns just yet another one. Shout out to the brother for joining
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  us. But yeah, I really do believe this is the best thing other
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  than the comic books. And I think it's so good because it's so true
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  to the comic books, and it will get more people into the comics,
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  I believe personally than any of the movies have done up to this point.
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  It's so true to the comic books while at the same time telling a different
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  story, telling a different perspective, and doing Hey, by the way,
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  rule who we put up we put We put up that clip about we don't
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  think canon being that required or important, and Guru said, I disagree.
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  Yeah, all right, young Guru. Specifically, he said, I disagree.
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  I gotta talk to y'all about it. We said, come through so
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  yes, he said he will be on the show. But yes, the
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  fact that you have all of these different the multiverse of stories, if you
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  will, and they have, as earth Tone explained, they've masterfully crafted this
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  cohesive. There's many different storylines that still have been addressed in a cohesive manner,
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  that has been completed in a beautiful manner. And it gives you,
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  to your point, Ben, it gives you a sense of accomplishment, like,
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  damn, y'all really did that? Like this is this is I gotta
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  say, I think this is by far the best showing of X Men throughout
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  the few last few years, like the regardless of what we're talking about live
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  action otherwise, this is probably for me, this is the best showing,
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  best storytelling when it comes to the X Men. Yeah, I mean,
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  I don't want to say last few years. I'm I say. Ever other
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  than OG, no, other than the comic books and OG and OG and
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  the OG animated series. OG Animated series was you know, paved away for
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  this, they're standing on the shoulders of giant Okay, because as if I
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  said, when I went back and watched the OG and a shout out to
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  doctor Drea, another one of our illustrious guests, because when I was distrusting
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  them with her, I didn't even seen all of it. So I was
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  like, oh, some of that stuff was corny, and some of it
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  is because it's still a kids show and was operating under the pretensions of being
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  a Fox Afternoon's kids show. And also, like you pointed out, Tade
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  and other people pointed out, and I went and did the research on this,
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  it did air out of order once, like they got past the first
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  Phoenix saga, because episodes were being completed out of order, the network was
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  getting them out of order. It was all kind of chaos. So this
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  for people watching it that, I'm sure it was hella confusing what was going
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  on. I was watching. I believe it now because because I remember that
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  first season people like one time of Jump, they was just doing regularship.
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  They cable popped out and I'm like, whoa. And then they would have
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  episodes where they would be time travling wild shit too. So if you weren't
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  watching an order, I can't imagine how difficult that must have been. So
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  but they were still standing on the shoulders of giants because they were doing all
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  kinds of ridiculous retellings of the stories, just like they're doing now, compressing
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  stories, doing their whole new cannon with the stories, and all of Bow
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  and the rest of the team are heavily reliant on what they've done. Shout
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  out to Chase Crownley. I want to give a big shout out to him,
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  because Bo was doing his point. And I really want to take this
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  second too, because one slight not issue I had, but when Bo started
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  talking a lot, I felt like a lot of people were heaping all the
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  praise on this and not the rest of the team. But this week Bo
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  made a point to be like, yo, make sure you'll watch the end
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  credits. Look at all these people working on this show, and he made
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  a boy. They made a point to shout out Chase Comedy, the head
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  director on the show, and all the other directors on the show, and
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  talked about specifically how Chasing Bo were collaborator collaborators on this how Chase even came
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  up with lines for the script. They on the phone talking and he was
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  like, bet that's in the script, yep. And so that type of
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  stuff really shows how this industry works. And I'm happy that Bo is really
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  shining a light on that because people often don't understand what a collaborator process it
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  is to make a television show and how so many people contribute to it.
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  But at the same time, how much fucking work a showrunner does, especially
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  a good showrunner, you know, and Bo seems to be by all counts
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  of a very great showrunner, you know, at least in terms of delivering
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  a fantastic show, you know, being hard to work with the people person
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  might be other things, who knows. I have no idea, that's all
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  whatever, you know, I don't know, But at least in terms of
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  delivering that show that they were asked to do, you know, they did
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  a fantastic job, as we can see in Everyone Man, Chase Conley.
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  I'm watching shots this episode of like fuck like the action the road comes through
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  with the damnit name remember it? And I know we're gonna mention this later
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  too, but Scott summons that that that Nigga's fighting scenes heads and then someone
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  else on Twitter pointed this out, like, and I agree because I was.
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  I was drawn to those images they showed up stills of like the negative
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  like the negative not image, but negative exposure of like you know, like
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  where they invert where the colors are inverted on a subject, so a negative
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  exposure image of like Scott when he was doing Laser Beam and there was one
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  a Jubilee when she was doing doing her sparkles, and there was some other
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  personal and it just looks so good like that when we talk about the attention
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  of detail, when we talk about the level of art, when we talk
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  about the level of care, and that's what I the point. Another point
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  I was gonna make that I forgot, which was the fact that the integration
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  of Bow and the rest of the team's lived experiences as queer people of colors,
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  as people pripy with color in this country, and then the integration of
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  like of mass tragedies like nine to eleven, like Polset Nightclub and all this
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  other stuff, and how so much reflection is so much parallel story that you
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  can get from what the X Men have already gone through and are going through.
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  And also the allegory that that that the X Men stands for, like
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  it's it's just so beautiful. It's the whole thing is incredible. And I
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  know, as mentioned, we keep saying, oh they get ten wards.
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  No, literally everything I've ever seen online in the last twenty four hours.
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  Everything is like ten ten ten ten insane. I mean, it's like I
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  said when I was talking to my man analyzed, I was, you know,
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  I'm just like dog, I really don't want to overhype this. But
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  I said the same thing lest people. I said, if they stick the
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  landing, this is the best thing. And then last night, after I
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  watched episode twice, it text him, you know, yo, you watch
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  this shit get fire emoji. You know. That's all I can say.
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  Because I've watched episode twice. I've now seen the third episode, I mean
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  the final episode three times, and every time I was blown away. Every
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  time I was hooked into the drama and the action and the suspense. Every
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  time this niggabastian pulls my girl up into the sky and looks like Rogue is
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  about to take that l I tendse up like I haven't seen it before,
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  Like I don't know what you've done survived this episode to. You're fantastic to
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  your point about the fact that Chase Conley had obviously had been very hands on
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  it, as has the entire team, not just both. There's a specific
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  line that he's responsible for, and it's probably you actually made to know here
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  as one of their favorites about minds are easier to bend than metal. I
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  mean, they were just having a conversation. He said that's the one and
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  put it in. Also, he talked about how some of the images from
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  the last couple scenes, I mean, episodes with Magneto and Professor X have
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  come direct from the comics and how a lesser director will be like, now
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  I want to do this myself, but Chase was like, nah, hell
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  yeah, that's what I was already thinking, because that's the perfect way to
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  do it. Like the comic has already done it. We just need to
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  animate these scenes. Yeah, And also what the beauty of this because there
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  are and also like they have done what eludes a lot of MCU films,
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  which is trying to introduce especially more obscure villains or more obscure characters characters in
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  general. They could go either way, whether the heroes or villains, but
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  the point is obscure characters and really making them matter and really having them have
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  some type of weight. Like the average person won't know who the fuck Bastion
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  is. Okay, the average person is not, and I mean y'all will
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  soon know who the fuck Apocalypse is you don't know who he is and and
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  so on and so far. What's the other one, the adversary? I
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  didn't know who the fuck the adversary was. Like most that's that's a deep
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  cut, even for es Men fans, you have to like as far as
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  they've shown up since. But they were specifically part of the following meter and
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  storyline like ninety one ninety two, you know what I mean, that's how
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  old, like Jesus Christ before that is long long, you know, like
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  you had to really be, you know, into it to know the adversary.
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  But they made the adversary a viable character. Everyone's like, oh my
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  god, Storm Voice the adversary, I mean the same voice address who voice
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  Storm Voice the adversary. Oh my god, that's so ill, you know
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  everyone. I love Bo's defense of Storm on Twitter because, as always we've
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  talked about this multiple times on the show, there's a lot of you know,
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  black people who are very itching for representation and very deservedly so. And
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  so when a character like Storm is pretty much one of the major other than
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  sun Spot, who you know, we all worried about black representations. People
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  want to see them do so much more even No. My boy, another
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  one of my brothers, had a dam and he listens to shows. Well,
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  he was like, Yo, I wanted to see Storm do way more,
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  you know, way more Storm shit. Not just the emotional shit,
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  but the storm shit. You know, she wants to you know, they
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  want to see the big clouds, the big ice, all that. But
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  I feel like Storm had those moments throughout this season. She's had that moment
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  even to the end, She's had these moments and also whole episodes attributed just
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  to her and her journey. I mean, she had a whole fucking journey.
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  And my thing is, you're gonna see more Storm. This this series
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  has done more for Storm than all of the movies combined. And I think
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  that's just that thing when people get this, you know they want more.
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  It's like me right now, like I famously once said this on the show,
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  shout out to Julian Eli and Martinez. When Wu Tang uh an American
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  saga with that drama series about Wu Tang was on Hulu, I was like,
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  I wish Wu Tang could be on all the time. And that's how
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  I feel about That's been ninety seven right now, Like I wish that's man
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  ninety seven could be on all the time, you know, just an episode
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  a week, that's all I asked for. Whatever. Well, you know
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  we're getting season two and three, that's already confirmed. Now the question that
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  I haven't and again, hopefully Bo, you'll be on the show soon.
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  How like is it part of his to me with a nigga talking to the
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  brick wall and like me trying to get that photo that's creators on the show.
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  I feel like you're listening, Bo, I mean, you've resigned to
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  our tweets. Shout out to Bow and shout out to Chase Tolly, who
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  both you know, personally followed to God. And I've had direct conversation with
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  them, and and then I'm talking to this bad That's fine. They probably
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  like they got away right, But they're busy. They're busy. I get
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  it. You know everybody's you know, sorry, talk about Emmy's you know
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  what I mean, Like Entertainment Tonight calling right now? You know what I
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  mean, like you know for calling and and y'all listening. Everyone else who's
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  listening? You want Bowl on the show. I don't know them even following
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  Entertainment Tonight, but I do know either way, y'all gotta act bowl,
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  y'all gotta act Chase and tell them to come on the show. Please do
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  y'all respectfully, Respectfully. Funny is fine, but it has to still be
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  respectful. But absolutely hit them up, be like hey, yo, we
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  need you on for all. Nurse Tatiana Bank is like that, like you
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  enjoy yourself, all this stuff, all this great, so that y'all know
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  is the case because you have seen the goodness. Let that happen. Now
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  that's been, Let's get into the details of this episode. One last thing.
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  Please don't ask Bow especially to distruss the details of whatever happened. We're
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  not We're not guarantee we're talking about that whatsoever. So yeah, unless they
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  don't, don't even mention that. That's not the point. It'spectful. But
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  ask on to episode ten, Tolerance is Extinction, Part three, the season
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  one finale of X Men ninety seven. Ben, how fucking mean they did
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  that? Shit? They were? Where the fuck do I start? Should
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  I start from the very beginning? Should I start from what was so the
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  most prominent pieces of this episode? And when I say prominent, I mean
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  the prominent themes. Yeah, I think we got to start with Professor and
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  Charles's whole art through this episode, because that, to me, was the
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  crux of this episode, the crux of this season. You know, It's
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  been the crux of the X Men from pretty much their inception. The opening
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  of the show features you know, Charles versus Magneto from back from the originals
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  to now. So when apparently there was like what if I was a mute?
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  And ha ha, well what if I was a mute? You shouldn't.
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  You can't say that, ha ha, you too now and right there,
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  and as people have rightfully pointed out, a lot of this can be
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  taken as very queer coded, you know, and I found that quite interesting
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  and why refreshing. But at the same time, I do have a question
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  for you, ty downa. Is it gay to love your homeboy? And
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  I mean that like seriously, because I've thinking about this, watching this episode
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  and seeing people's reactions to it on you know, the social media's out there,
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  because I and my thoughts on it after I thought about it for a
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  second word, that because heteronormative relationships between men are usually portrayed as loving your
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  homeboy is gay. The idea that a man can love his friend and not
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  have a sexual desire for him might be or not even a sexual desire,
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  but a romantic desire for them might be taken as you know, like that's
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  all. It's like. That's why I was like, is this is this
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  queer coded our Charles and Magnito meant to be two men who you know can't
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  express themselves in the times they're live in. Or is it that's one way
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  to do it. I took it as that's that Nigga's brother, and that's
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  how I took it. No, there's just not gay to love your homeboy.
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  And again I'm saying it like love love love is. You can love
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  someone, but there's levels of love. There are concepts of love, and
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  there are facets of love, and you can have different type of love with
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  different people. You can have familial love like you and me. I have
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  familial love for him. We are we are not related by blood, but
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  you are my brother. Okay. At the end of the day, you
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  can have a love for someone where it does have uh there there's a sexual
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  intimacy there, or there is romantic said some times there's no roman That's another
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  thing. People don't know this. You can have sexual intimacy or have sexu
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  with some might not be romantic with that, and you can have romantic intimacy
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  correct, So there's different combinations thereof but just the idea like if again this
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  is these are all hetero as you mentioned, heteronormative term anology and definitions which
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  get flipped up on his head when you're not looking. When you're looking at
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  this from a queer lens, that's none of that shit means anything, right,
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  So if you're talking about just from if you're straight, and you're like,
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  it's this gay, you mean, does he want to be in a
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  relationship, a sexulation with another man. No, he loves Professor x Xavier
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  loves Madness. That is his brother, that's his brother in arms, that's
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  his family member. No matter how many times Charles betrays him, no matter
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  how many tries times Madness may be trade Charles. At the end of the
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  day, they love each other and they will always have that love for each
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  other. And sometimes it's love hate and some time it's complicated. And I
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  think that led me to another realization or like epiphany I would say, is
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  that like the idea of queerness expands to so many levels because the idea of
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  heteronormative and what's shown normally in media is so strict, and so one way
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  has to be this way. So it's not you know, queerness has such
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  a wide umbrella because of that, and because I don't look at things to
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  me, at least as you know, as a typical you know, straight
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  black and white man. I never have. But you know, I grew
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  up under Prince Man. I'm like, it's different, you know, so
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  I just don't. I don't look at it like that. But at the
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  same time, I do see that Charles and Magneto could you know, under
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  the right cercainmstances, you know, they could you know what I meant,
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  Oh, that ain't Potentially I told you that was doing wild shit. Wolverine
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  would have to agree, and that's the there we go. You know,
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  I'm saying, I still feel like wolf Red has. It's just you know
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  what I mean, it's one of them, your fan We can't we know,
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  no, you know, like they like we said, they might have
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  a central relationship without a romantic relationship right now, and that might be more
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  problems, you know what I mean, because Moover rings down. Look,
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  my man turned into Sable Tooth. If y'all read the comments, y'all not
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  first moment we get both y'all talking about what talk about that? The first
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  one I get bow on the show. That's what I'm asking about, nigga
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  what like? Because bose are fanatic comments like I am, and like me
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  right now being a fanatic of comments. I'm disgusted with sable Tooth. I
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  think he's a monster, you know, like, I think he's one of
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  the worst things ever. And it's monsters, monsters and for this nigga to
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  turn into him and then in this episode turned into Gene Like there is some
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  ship has happened between these two. No move has done some while to no,
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  no, put that on my man. They're both implicit. They're both
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  complicit in this. Yes, made the choices. You can blame Wovering all
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  you want, but Morph made the choices to turn into who he's turning to
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  for reasons, for reasons. And like I say, Wolverine started, Key
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  King ran off with the thing, and and and and and Wolverine's defense in
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  this episode, he was fighting for his life. So yeah, no,
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  no, in this episode, Wolverine's just laying there. Yeah, he talked
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  to the Gene and and that get but he tastes that extra breath, you
• 23:30
  know what I mean. Not just sitting here so you will find blame on
• 23:34
  Wolverine for anything. No, I'm just saying it's not blame. I'm saying
• 23:38
  that you know, he he feels something for morph. He knows that ain't
• 23:42
  you know, Gene, just like he knows that ain't saving to Wolvering and
• 23:47
  you know you know this is always morph. Well, well back to Magneto,
• 23:49
  Professor X. I just felt that this episode is I mean, throughout
• 23:53
  the series, the season, this episode, that writing being so brilliant and
• 24:00
  really that interaction. I mentioned the complexity of interaction with a friend of me
• 24:06
  or the a front of me that you love, or someone where maybe y'all
• 24:10
  really fuck with each other one year and the next year you can't stand that
• 24:11
  person, but that you will always be connected with them through space and time
• 24:18
  and the fact that they're old, right, so they've had years and years
• 24:22
  and years and years and decades between them and that conversation that they had in
• 24:27
  Magnus's mind about being hurt about betrayal and the meaning of family, and we
• 24:33
  talked to and we all I don't know, people recognize that conversation about there's
• 24:37
  a difference between the family you're born into and your chosen family and the family
• 24:42
  you end up with and all this other stuff like that conversation was so poignant
• 24:48
  and to see it, the verbalization of it and the characterization of it,
• 24:55
  the fact that they're in Magnus's mind and they're surrounded by stormy waters and there
• 25:00
  are people who are important to manness in his mind. You see Rogue,
• 25:03
  she's on that little tug boat, the two two outside, you know,
• 25:07
  and it's rocking, going crazy. Just the fact that also on the sorry
• 25:12
  also on the tugboat is Quicksilver starting Kicksilver and Polaris his son and daughter and
• 25:18
  his other daughter his daughter. That was a big moment for me because Polaris's
• 25:23
  name is also one of the names that blacked out on the sheet. Yeah,
• 25:27
  that was I was like, thank you both, thank you for all
• 25:30
  of these deep seated, buried feelings that they're talking through that you live physically
• 25:34
  see a manifestation of. And it's in as Professor Hax mentioned, you're in
• 25:40
  the elements and it is consuming the both of them, and Professor that's just
• 25:45
  trying to talk Magneto down from letting this consume him. And it's a larger
• 25:49
  conversation just about when it comes to letting your emotions consume you, letting certain
• 25:55
  traumas consume your mind and your life, and how that affects. At this
• 26:00
  moment, Magneto is trapped in his mind. His mind can break. It's
• 26:06
  on the verge, as is Professor X because he's stuck in that bitch too.
• 26:10
  So to be able for a lot of people. And the reason why
• 26:14
  I'm pushing this so hard is because the way people learn it could be visual,
• 26:18
  It could be audio, could be by doing, could be a combination
• 26:21
  thereof. This show combined all the elements of learning into one long scene about
• 26:27
  what all these different things mean as mentioned about pain, betrayal, struggle,
• 26:33
  the meaning of family trauma. They were able to express that in so many
• 26:37
  different ways that anyone watching could understand, could learn, could relate. And
• 26:44
  that's why x N ninety seven is so damn brilliant. I mean, yeah,
• 26:52
  the Niggasa in cold Water is a trauma. What poetry, Timothy that
• 26:57
  I get told, come on, cannons to these cannons in front of them,
• 27:04
  cannon's behind them. Come on, man, and then beyond that,
• 27:10
  Like when you want to talk about great strip writing, you have what you
• 27:14
  call A and B stories in an episode, And so the A story in
• 27:17
  this episode is Charles. Well, I'm not even sure which it's talking like
• 27:19
  A A one, and a yeah, but A one and A two is
• 27:26
  the battle between Charles and Magneto, and A two is the battle between the
• 27:30
  Edsmond and Bashian. Right, but both of them mirror each other. They
• 27:33
  are both about well, once about Magneto and Charles trumming together, and the
• 27:38
  other is about Cyclops and Bashian coming together and Cyclops coming to terms with you
• 27:42
  know what he says in this episode that we have to start doing what we've
• 27:47
  been telling humanity to do all this time, is to embrace the future and
• 27:51
  stop fighting it, which is the same thing as letting go of your past
• 27:53
  traumas. You see what I'm fucking saying right here, like you you feel
• 27:57
  the chills that just take up my spine. I said that ship because that's
• 28:00
  fucking what you call bars niggas putting the master fled right there. I need
• 28:07
  that right there, press the bomb, but I need the like that's insane
• 28:15
  amount of writing Choult out to bowl the team like to say that your past
• 28:19
  traumas are affecting you and you gotta stop fighting the future. And one scene
• 28:26
  you're saying that, and then the other scene you're saying this as you're cutting
• 28:29
  in between them, and you're and what did I say about different ways of
• 28:33
  expressing a thought. You're showing you're talking about not fighting in the future,
• 28:38
  and you're showing people fighting the literal future. Sure, And I mean the
• 28:45
  levels, the levels I feel. I feel like that the candy mean,
• 28:48
  the candy candy birds mean where she says the lies when it said of the
• 28:52
  lies, she says the levels like come on, come on. Uh.
• 28:59
  So that's like the main storyline I wanted. I wanted one last thing because
• 29:03
  in that Charles and Professor sing, because this is when I wanted to jump
• 29:07
  out of my seat and start why I damned there almost to jump out of
• 29:10
  my seat and starts screaming at it is the culmination of it when Charles is
• 29:14
  telling him his name, and it goes back to what we've talked about before
• 29:18
  in these episodes. How and this has come up and I've said this before
• 29:22
  and that's like I said, man, how Bow of you know, the
• 29:27
  X Men team and Aluing and Hickman and a lot of them are coming,
• 29:32
  especially ar Ewing. Really it's really arguing with his take on Magneto and also
• 29:36
  some other writers who of course all the comic writers, but how they all
• 29:38
  came to the same conclusion. And that's basically Bo just being a super fan
• 29:41
  of the comics while writing this and knowing the history of Magneto, and this
• 29:45
  is what Magnitto is. Magneto is a man of many names and many personalities,
• 29:49
  you know, and he always has to fight and choose between these personalities
• 29:55
  because the one that he starts with is just a straight up monster. You
• 29:59
  know, there's no there ain't even really like when Magnito's first introduduces black and
• 30:04
  white. He's not even the Malcolm Mets analog that we know in Love today.
• 30:08
  He is just a monster, straight up killing niggas on site. You
• 30:12
  know, everyone dies. He's just a typical comic book villain. And then
• 30:15
  later on Chris Plaermont comes and refines him and starts writing the Magnito that we
• 30:19
  know in Love, where he becomes this nuanced character. He introduces the ideaity
• 30:23
  he was in the concentration camps, and we see they made sure to note
• 30:27
  that, you know, when you see we I don't even know he mentioned
• 30:30
  this on Magnita's arm. You see the tattoos from the concentration camps. Mm,
• 30:36
  we saw that a few times. And so that's like some real life
• 30:40
  ship. When I was a kid, actually met a concentration camp survivor and
• 30:42
  they showed me those tattoos on their arm. That shit was you know,
• 30:47
  do you have more to say about? Oh yeah, I dude, because
• 30:51
  this is the main point of this. It's like the Man of many names,
• 30:53
  right, And when he's telling them his name, that Magnito's first introduction,
• 30:57
  he says, men call me, you know what I mean, And
• 31:02
  it's that like, don't fuck around with me. That's who I am.
• 31:04
  And so when professors is like, you know, we need you wanted it
• 31:08
  one way, you know, it's like the wires, you want it one
• 31:12
  way, but it's the other way. You know, we don't need Eric
• 31:15
  right now, we don't need Magnets right now, we need Magnito. And
• 31:21
  that's when I fucking almost you know, flip the table meme jump out to
• 31:26
  see tear the TV off the wall like and then that nigga jumps up and
• 31:30
  saves the day and does what he needs to do, he said, he
• 31:33
  said, they used to call me crazy Joe. Now they called me Batman.
• 31:41
  Put the lots on the door, nigger. Listen, I said,
• 31:51
  Timothy, I guess earlier I met Raphael. I guess I just want to
• 31:56
  make that correction. Put the chains on the door, nigga. Mm hmm.
• 32:00
  Yeah, Like that's when I, yeah, I lost it, Like
• 32:04
  I mean, I was losing this whole up the time, but losing this
• 32:06
  whole season, but that was just like, I'm such a Magneto super fan,
• 32:09
  and that just got him to his core, got Professor to his core.
• 32:15
  And let's talk about and yeah, let's talk about the other thing that
• 32:17
  got to his core this episode. Mhmm, my man, Scott's dunness.
• 32:25
  Wait wait wait, but before we I know, we'll detour. I know
• 32:32
  we will detour back to Maggie a professor expert before we leave them. I
• 32:37
  just want to add on to what you're saying about him. What's in the
• 32:39
  name and the power of your name, and once again going back and and
• 32:45
  and and this is this is my reach. Okay. I noticed and may
• 32:47
  not have to do with you're gonna Your name is your name, Your name
• 32:57
  is your power, Your name is your Lenny is your is your person hood.
• 33:02
  Okay, whether it's your children's names, you were born with, the
• 33:06
  name that you, you decided to take on all this other stuff. When
• 33:14
  Matt Nito says, Oh, I know who you are, and I know
• 33:17
  who I am. That that that that power and knowing and the ship,
• 33:22
  the fact that that ship woke him the fuck up. When we talk about
• 33:25
  levels once again, the levels and that unlocked him once again. It knocked
• 33:34
  him out of his own mind. And that's just more of what we keep
• 33:36
  saying about when it comes to knowing thyself, knowing yourself, and knocking yourself
• 33:40
  out of your own restraints. The same thing happened with Storm this series The
• 33:46
  Adversary, The Adversary. After the conversation, it was like you was the
• 33:50
  only you at the at the end of the day, you were holding yourself
• 33:52
  back. Your powers were never left you. You held yourself down and beyond
• 33:58
  that. Like both pointed out, her powers aren't the source of her power.
• 34:02
  Her powers is the source of her self belief in herself. As she
• 34:07
  then tells Jeane, you know when like Jean's like you'll be killed like sister
• 34:12
  Nah. You know, it ain't about these powers. It's about that we
• 34:15
  believe in each other beyond everything. And I know we sound like church right
• 34:19
  now. I hear the organs in the background. I'm going to And that's
• 34:23
  the thing. It's like you weren't making to reach it all on. Both
• 34:25
  definitely intended that because and it's something that you mentioned in your notes about Sunspot
• 34:30
  that he finally stopped using his slave name. And this has come up in
• 34:32
  the comics. The mutants refer to their like code names as their mutant name
• 34:38
  and not their human name, which is, you know, the name they
• 34:40
  were given at birth. And it's just like you said to this the second
• 34:44
  time now that we've referenced that, I've referenced Marlowe from the Wire in this
• 34:47
  episode, because Marlowe is famous for that. You wanted it that way,
• 34:52
  but it's the other way and his other famous one, as I use is
• 34:54
  my drop is my name is my name, and my name is in the
• 34:59
  street. This is what that leads to. You know, my name is
• 35:01
  my name, And that conversation in the Wire comes from marlow being locked up
• 35:06
  in prison and finding out that people in the streets are saying, oh,
• 35:09
  Marlow gone saw And he's like, and when his lieutenants tell him this,
• 35:14
  who were in the streets And he's like, Nigga, y'all ain't murt them
• 35:17
  niggas, Like my name is, my name, my name has my name
• 35:22
  holds water. Like He's like, my name is in the streets. Niggas
• 35:27
  is saying my name without being dead. You know that don't happen, you
• 35:30
  know, Like, so what is going on in this life? And that's
• 35:35
  what mad Nito is about, like you said, and like you know,
• 35:37
  we all know, like we're you know, we go by our trosen whatever.
• 35:39
  Like my tros name is been, I mean, and it holds weight,
• 35:43
  you know what I mean. We choose these names because they hold power.
• 35:45
  And wait, Agnito, you know there it is, you know what
• 35:51
  I mean, Like, I ain't going by that name Sun Spots that I
• 35:54
  ain't going by Roberto no more, Nigga, my name is. I'm so
• 35:58
  happy he figured it out. Welcome, Welcome to the President. Mike to
• 36:02
  the plan that Nigga finally gonna get an introduction shot in the next season,
• 36:07
  and let me let me and again I know jump a little bit. Let
• 36:09
  me also say I'm so glad he made mention because I fucking said that in
• 36:13
  the last episode that sun Spot may mention. I know I've only been using
• 36:16
  my powers for like two seconds. Thank you, nigga, as long as
• 36:19
  you say what it is. Appreciate you and nigga flying in space in this
• 36:22
  episode that at that you you went right into your boy. Scott Summer is
• 36:30
  okay, stunners in respect on that man's name. I said this on ig
• 36:36
  and I said this on Twitter. Mm hmm. I don't hate Scott no
• 36:39
  move I could you ever X Men ninety seven turned it around for me.
• 36:45
  I'm not gonna I'm also not gonna sit here and be like, oh,
• 36:49
  I'm gonna be his cheerleader because I'm not. I will how you can't.
• 36:52
  However, Comma, I don't dislike the nigga anymore. This his his build
• 36:58
  up to this, and the fact that he came to the terms of his
• 37:01
  own funck shit. That's what made me like him, especially the last episode
• 37:06
  where I had actually verbalized that yo, I don't you know, I feel
• 37:09
  him and I actually was fucking with him when he told when he when he
• 37:14
  read Professor Exweerdfelds. And then even in this episode, especially when he was
• 37:19
  just like atoning for he was like, you know what I was fucked up
• 37:22
  to. I did some ship that I shouldn't have fucking done. And then
• 37:25
  when he finally really let go, and yes it was in the heat of
• 37:29
  battle, but I saw the let go. I saw the just put you
• 37:34
  all into it and let me see you nigga. Once I seen that,
• 37:37
  I said, Okay, I fuck with this man like I told you,
• 37:39
  like when you know that, nigga. One of my favorite panels ever is
• 37:44
  when that shit is just all read because yes, yeah, and on the
• 37:49
  obvious stuff, Yes, that fight scene went crazy. That the way that
• 37:55
  they once again that they animate the move sets and the power levels and the
• 38:01
  fighting aspects and the strategy behind the fighting and once again seeing the characters do
• 38:07
  things with their power that you may have not seen done before, or just
• 38:10
  building up of what you've seen all season. That went that the full red
• 38:15
  when when he first when he was just like, don't ever touch my family
• 38:20
  again, and man's with ham and then at the end when he just took
• 38:22
  off the shades all together, was like blasting that nigga Snat Snat snap,
• 38:30
  And I wanted to also mention this is also an easter egg for him in
• 38:34
  that move se he did you did it in the beginning of the show that
• 38:37
  I mean when you cross your arms, that's actually an actual move set from
• 38:39
  Marvel Versus Capcom. Which once again, when we said that this is a
• 38:44
  joint effort between many people, including you know, bodamaie on everybody there that
• 38:49
  was somebody else animators right when of aims who said, ayo, you should
• 38:52
  do this. Yep, huge Marvel Versus a cop current fan, and I
• 38:55
  mean, who isn't That's just one of the greatest video games of all time,
• 39:00
  and that's what we've talked about, you know, it's just how they've
• 39:04
  been using all these different sources to create this version. But I just again
• 39:07
  and again cannot get over how true it is to the comments and how good
• 39:13
  it is, Like this is just one little easter egg. And we put
• 39:16
  this on the Fall Nerds account on Twitter. But I don't know if anyone's
• 39:20
  ever done the days of Futures passed cover, you know when they show with
• 39:24
  Forge right. Well, we'll get to that little later, but that's another
• 39:28
  little easter we'll get to at the end of this, but yeah, because
• 39:30
  I really want to just talk about Scott. How motherfucking amazing indic is like
• 39:36
  a man doing his speed and his speed and the costume, like the way
• 39:40
  he's moving his oelat, yeah, to move himself around the room. And
• 39:46
  then, like you said, the conversation with Jeane Cable and Scott was as
• 39:52
  beautifully written to me as anything else. Cable talking about, Oh, this
• 39:57
  is one of those indings you know, for Sha in the ending of the
• 40:00
  episode, and you mentioned this actual scene was out of what you told maybe
• 40:07
  it was two or three episodes back where or maybe even more when we were
• 40:10
  talking about how when Scott and Jean were outside the mansion in front of the
• 40:16
  lake and Jean was floating the water and shit like that, and how you
• 40:21
  mentioned how in the comments they had a conversation where she held back his optic
• 40:24
  blast and that's part of like how they decided how they ended up falling love
• 40:28
  and all that stuff. So then they did it in this finale episode where
• 40:31
  he was like, yo, you got my eyes talking the Cable and then
• 40:35
  for her to take it off the glasses and stop the aptic blast and for
• 40:38
  him to be able to see his little brown eye, pretty brown eyes.
• 40:42
  You know what I'm saying, like, come on, come on, and
• 40:47
  you can see the love and you could see Cable finally like accepting Jane,
• 40:52
  and it's all y'all mean, finally like fully accepting it. I mean even
• 40:57
  in the in the earlier moment, what he says when you know he's down
• 41:01
  for the con when she summons up the Phoenix, my man says, I
• 41:05
  think you need to understand what Tom is telling you about my mom, my
• 41:07
  mom, and he's talking to that lady over there, my mother. Yeah,
• 41:13
  it's about to put that hurt on you. And that's, you know,
• 41:15
  a direct flip from the last episode when he says, my real mother
• 41:20
  was a telegon that in Marvel. You know it didn't it didn't pass.
• 41:23
  You know, it comes right to me too. But in this episode he
• 41:27
  knows, you know that they're both his mother in a way that they're they're
• 41:30
  essentially one of the same. But yeah, I understand what I understand what
• 41:34
  he's been through. He'd been through a lot, and we're we're gonna see
• 41:37
  a lot more of that in the next season. What cable. Yeah.
• 41:42
  Yeah, and what yeah, so see all that we're gonna talk about that.
• 41:46
  Yeah. The Phoenix and Jean Gray. You know that since the opening
• 41:52
  credits of episode one, all season long, through dialogue, through imagery,
• 41:58
  Phoenix, the Phoenix, the phoenis the Phoenix, and then finally, when
• 42:00
  it matters the most, she appears. Yeah, it's appears because it's an
• 42:05
  entity. It appears, Yep, does some business, bounces and leaves Gene
• 42:10
  to get served. Pretty typical. It did what it needed to do when
• 42:16
  it needed to do it. Yeah, but at the same time, cable
• 42:21
  from to save all of them. Really yeah, but five more minutes so
• 42:23
  the Phoenix would have very raptist episode up pretty feet. It would have been
• 42:28
  helpful, But then that would have been the cheat cold and there would have
• 42:30
  been no ending, like the way we want it. And and that's okay
• 42:34
  that they did it the way they did, because it ended up turning Sinister
• 42:37
  into a California Raisin and I fucked with that. That was amazing. That
• 42:40
  was funny. Yeah, sad, I mean yeah, it was like mom
• 42:50
  Rah momra used to for Thundercat fans when Mamurray used to be the big muscle
• 42:53
  nigga and then he gets foiled every episode and turned back into Momray, you
• 42:58
  know, and we all like the little week nigga. Your voice acting is
• 43:01
  hilarious, you know, you never you don't know, you know Mamra,
• 43:05
  right, you do know Mamra vagually? Okay, Well, Mamra is you
• 43:08
  know, the villain of ThunderCats, and he's a mummy because he's Mamra and
• 43:13
  normally he's this frail little nigga, you know, and then he would say
• 43:16
  some magic spell or something and it turned into this big bolt you know,
• 43:20
  swoll last Diesel nigga, and then Lione would serve that nigga and he would
• 43:23
  turn back and the Momra you know. Yeah. Also staying within the Scott
• 43:29
  Jen Cable trifecta at the end when when the asteroid m gets blipped somewhere blitz
• 43:40
  is a good word, and the team actually all gets separated, right,
• 43:45
  we do see Scott and Jean get get yeated to the future and they end
• 43:52
  up with mother Askani and then Scani tribe. You got to talk about that
• 43:58
  you got and the significant and I noticed that pros but the significance of Askani,
• 44:01
  her mother got skin of yourself and when they when they had the whole
• 44:06
  intro, a little righthead boy popped out and it was like talking about he's
• 44:10
  Nathaniel talking about Oh, I don't feel no harm coming from these two meanings.
• 44:14
  He's he's telekinetican whatever or feelings. What's going on? All right,
• 44:19
  it's going on. Long story short. This is basically and will have to
• 44:24
  to do this. We need to also just tie into all the whole ending
• 44:28
  of episode because basically the ending episode on all three fronts is tying into the
• 44:32
  net season and revealing the big bad or the big antagging us. I guess
• 44:37
  you'll say, because you know, my man is not very bad in the
• 44:39
  literal sense, just like Manto Apocalypse and the one't that we well. The
• 44:46
  first the big foreshadowing in this episode is when Rogue and Bashing are fighting on
• 44:52
  the moon in what is known, and I love that they don't it's all
• 44:55
  right, this is a two problem thing, right, And I'm answering a
• 45:00
  question. No this, No, We'll get back to the question, but
• 45:02
  I do. I just want to talk about the foreshadowing and then how the
• 45:07
  show doesn't explain shit unless you've watched earlier or you know it already, and
• 45:13
  it's just like either go figure it out or just accept that. You know,
• 45:16
  some really cool shit's happening because Rogan Bashing are fighting on the moon and
• 45:21
  Road should be dead. But where they're fighting on the moon is the Blue
• 45:24
  Area of the Moon, which in the comics is where Jean Gray gets turned
• 45:29
  into Phoenix, but she gets blasted there. And the Blue Area of the
• 45:32
  Moon is also the home of the inhumans and it has an atmosphere that is
• 45:37
  breathable to humans, and in humans gotchacause I'm going to ask how the hell
• 45:40
  did she survived when we started talking about rogues, but go ahead, that's
• 45:44
  why. And the Blue Area is also where Apocalypse I think, at one
• 45:46
  point has a base or something, which is why you see that statue in
• 45:51
  the background and Rogue sees it where yeah, Rogue looks over like she knows
• 45:58
  what that is and it's the face of Apocalypse. So that's the big foreshadowing.
• 46:01
  And then we get to the end of the episode where they're yeaded into
• 46:04
  the future and the mother of Ascani and Young the Thing don't walk up.
• 46:07
  Young Nathaniel is Cable. Remember earlier Cable got yeaded to the future. This
• 46:13
  is the future he got yeaded to. This is him years later as he's
• 46:15
  grown up a bit and he's only like maybe a teenager. Teenager Yeah,
• 46:21
  okay, so he's mad young, mad young. And this comes from a
• 46:24
  comics series, The Adventures of Scott or Cyclops of Phoenix, The Adventures of
• 46:30
  the Cyclops of Phoenix, where they get yeaded to the future and raised their
• 46:34
  son. The other person in this last scene is mother Askani, who is
• 46:37
  my girl, one of my favorite character's. Mother. Astani is an older
• 46:40
  version of Rachel Summers, who in the comics is the daughter of Scott and
• 46:47
  Jean from basically an alternate timeline. Right, Yeah, that's the most fucked
• 46:52
  up family tree Scot Summers family they are. We talked about Vulcan being introduced
• 47:00
  earlier in this season of Vulcan being introduced and having not a word to say,
• 47:04
  but that is Scott's other brother. Scott also has another brother, Havoc,
• 47:09
  and might have an yet one more, but it's really at this point
• 47:15
  it's as confirmed its Vulcan, Havoc, Stott, Rachel mean the Alternate Timeline
• 47:21
  Kids Cable being another Timeline kid Jean and Maddeline, his two Clne wives.
• 47:27
  His father abandoned him. Yeah, his father abandoned him to be a space
• 47:31
  pirate. His mom's dead. I think that's it. Okay, Cable Leader
• 47:40
  has an adopted daughter who Bishop chases through space trying to kill space and time.
• 47:46
  One thing I also wanted to add on about why also appreciated Scott was
• 47:51
  the fact that when I was like, he acknowledges his wrongdoing. Specifically,
• 47:54
  when he was just like, I should have told you asked by Remember I
• 47:58
  was warping on that when I was just like, is it uchu always a
• 48:00
  woman like I'm like, nigga, this is probably the last time you could
• 48:04
  see this guy hurt people, hurt people. He said, as much.
• 48:07
  I did the same thing my father did to me. My space pirate father
• 48:10
  abandoned me to go be a space pirate and frolic with a his his space
• 48:15
  pirate father. They say, woman who's like a humanoids skunk. You know
• 48:23
  it happens, Hey, he's a space pirate. Things happened. Okay,
• 48:28
  back to the end of the episode, the other indeed, Yeah, yep,
• 48:34
  okay, yeah, you mentioned the scani and all that stuff. Cuckockoo.
• 48:36
  Thank you for the background Shanni clan. What that is we can talk
• 48:39
  about that. But that's my the question I'm gonna have. I was gonna
• 48:43
  ask. We say, okay, we have this version Ofathaniel. Where is
• 48:46
  our cable that we've been fucking with? Where he go still in the past,
• 48:51
  remember, so he's still in the Remember Bishop comes to get him to
• 48:54
  get forged. Oh true. Indeed, well they don't have to get a
• 48:57
  cable to Okay. And on four just and on Forge's wall, it said
• 49:01
  cable was a wall. If I'm not miss if I'm not mistaken, probably
• 49:05
  disappeared some time somewhere into the times frame himself, okay, And that's that
• 49:08
  was just a question and about what happened. And also on cable's note,
• 49:13
  I had also the future right now, like cable ain't gonna disappear because they
• 49:16
  fucking with you know, his teenage when I disappeared. Just where did he
• 49:19
  go? I know everyone got scattered, but with right, so we'll find
• 49:22
  out. And then also on the cable front, I had asked this myself,
• 49:27
  like when he was first appeared about the whole during the whole Genosh ship,
• 49:30
  I was like, how many times does this nigga actually go back for
• 49:32
  them for Sinister to force him to say two hundred times, I fell to
• 49:39
  my knees. I said, what two hundred times to stop? Genoshis watching
• 49:45
  your mom dying for you? Two hundred times? Onered times? My guy,
• 49:50
  it's and you're right there and you're right now every time, and you
• 49:52
  get pulled out and you can do nothing time. You can do nothing to
• 49:58
  save her every time. But then you would think that means you thought you
• 50:00
  thought of two hundred different ways to potentially to make this work, because you
• 50:05
  was like, okay, a method fifty two didn't work. Method one forty
• 50:08
  six gotta work. Like he's seeing it happen, so it ain't just like
• 50:13
  that one time that we saw. There times when he's there and see Jo
• 50:15
  she get blown the fuck up, his mom get blown up everything, so
• 50:19
  he sees all the tragedy and then he gets you know, he can't stop
• 50:22
  it. That's insane. That's the same. Yeah, if you want to
• 50:27
  see something about the Scannie clan, please go ahead and then we could talk
• 50:29
  about the other side of this. Uh. Pretty like their name that Astrinnie
• 50:32
  clan is just off of Rachel Summers having been a time traveler herself and found
• 50:37
  the Astroni clan, which basically carries on the name of Edgemon, which was
• 50:42
  another foreshadowing when he's like, all the people are always telling me, these
• 50:45
  rebels telling me a boomer, I mean telling me the stories of the X
• 50:50
  Men. Yeah, is his parents, but Nathan doesn't notice in the future,
• 50:55
  like he realizes that when he had the conversation with them. Yeah,
• 51:00
  but in the comics he didn't like as as a kid, they hide who
• 51:04
  they are from him, got it. Yeah, so they don't. You
• 51:07
  know, they helped raise him, but they don't tell him where your actual
• 51:09
  parents, gotcha. I'm not sure how to do it in the show,
• 51:13
  but that's how it goes on in the comics. And that's also why his
• 51:15
  name is Nathan day Spring, which is like Summers. You know, Nathan.
• 51:17
  Oh, that was the name he took on day Scream. You said
• 51:20
  day Spring, day Spring? Okay, day Scream is a fire name,
• 51:23
  but yeah, no, day Spring is his name, Nathan day Spring.
• 51:29
  Okay. And then there's the other side of where the rest of the team,
• 51:32
  most not all the team gets sent to you we get we got beast
• 51:37
  Professor X Nightcrawler Rogue. Oh yeah, one last thing about that future apocalypse
• 51:42
  is running things, running things, which which one about the running apocalypse specifically
• 51:52
  is running things, running things, and it's all bad for everyone else,
• 51:54
  Like he it's mad match type situation where this nigga's control and everything everybody else
• 51:59
  is suffering bad damn. And now it's the other side where the rest of
• 52:02
  the team minus Storm, where the fuck is Storm gets yeaded to the past,
• 52:08
  to the Egyptian times, where as mentioned Nightcrawler Rogue Professor X, beasts
• 52:15
  pull up on and sob North was morph there? What happened to Morphrom Wolverine
• 52:20
  too? I was gonna ask you that I don't remember if morph is there,
• 52:22
  I don't think so. Wolverine ain't there. So I think morphins with
• 52:25
  Wolverine wherever they are, probably probably because they were with each other when when
• 52:30
  the ship, you know, he was doing his best gene grade. And
• 52:32
  where was Storm when the ship got yeaded? Storm was out there with with
• 52:37
  the She was fighting with that. Well wait, she was with Forge,
• 52:42
  right, didn't she? No? No, she was talking to Forge.
• 52:44
  She tells her that you know you're gonna you're not gonna be to make it
• 52:47
  back. Sun Spot and Jubilee are on the ground, and so so Storm
• 52:52
  is on the ground with for it. No no, no, Storm does
• 52:53
  not get to the ground before the ship gets yeaded. Okay, so either
• 52:58
  way, where the fuck is Storm? Good question? So, but I
• 53:01
  don't have any answer from the comments, honestly, I don't know. Right.
• 53:06
  So, so the people who we have name again I caller, Rogue,
• 53:08
  Professor X, and Beast. They are in the past in Egypt,
• 53:12
  and they pull up on and they actually and where's Magneto. Magneto's there too.
• 53:16
  Magneto's there too, thank you. Magnio's there, and they pull up
• 53:20
  on him and they actually save him from whoever was beefing with him, Yeah,
• 53:23
  some other Egyptians. And he introduces himself and then you see, you
• 53:29
  know, you see the blue the blue hieroglyphic ships on you know, on
• 53:31
  space, and just like old ship, and they all recognized, they all
• 53:35
  know who they're dealing with. Is that's why Beeft says, oh, you
• 53:37
  know, wow, what every hey says? You know, great, and
• 53:40
  Rogue and Magneto share a look because they know. And that's in Saboneur,
• 53:45
  which is in Sabeur is the first name of Avocalypse, and he is in
• 53:51
  Marvel History, the first mutant. He was born in Egyptian times and lives
• 53:55
  forever. His powers are quite tremendous and allow him to live for thousands of
• 54:00
  years up into the future where we meet him. And so Apocalypse, like
• 54:05
  we said before, will be a lot of the problems that they's been deal
• 54:08
  with in the net season because they're dealing with him in the future. They're
• 54:13
  dealing with his young version in the past, and then in present day.
• 54:16
  In the mid credits scene, we see Apocalypse again. And the thing is,
• 54:21
  if you go back to the original series, Apocalypse was featured super heavily,
• 54:24
  so anyone from who watched the original knows this character knows a lot of
• 54:29
  his history as well, so all this ain't new to him. But we
• 54:32
  see Apocalypse and the ashes of Janosha talking about so much death my children because
• 54:38
  of Apocalypse considers the entire mutant race to be his children. He's constantly saying,
• 54:45
  the strong survive and we need to be stronger. Why he gets finally
• 54:50
  was revealed in the recent house of that series, which really expanded his character
• 54:53
  even more. He's another one of my favorite characters in comics, and he's
• 54:58
  another character to star off. It's just a prototypical ra I'm Apocalypse all you
• 55:05
  die, you know, type villain and then turned into this really super complex,
• 55:09
  super really just well rounded character Inabonneur is one of my favorite characters in
• 55:16
  h my mythology, so it's fire, so fire, you know. And
• 55:22
  then in House of It he turns his name to an unpronounceable symbol, like
• 55:25
  he's Prince Prince yah know as yeah, because he's like, you know,
• 55:30
  I can't even speak that language. I have to have a co Cohen name,
• 55:34
  and so my name is you know, yeah, and I'm not Apocalypse.
• 55:39
  Even that he grows where he's like, I'm not Apocalypse anymore. I'm
• 55:43
  not preparing you all for that. Now. My name is Revelation because I'm
• 55:46
  bringing life and strength. You know. I am the light, you know,
• 55:50
  I'm not the death and the light. Yeah, speaking of death.
• 55:54
  When we do Hippopulys in that big credit scene, he is holding a Queen
• 55:58
  of Hearts card, which is one of Bambit's card. He pulled it out
• 56:01
  from the dirt and apparently he's on what's supposed to be modern day Janosha and
• 56:06
  he's standing in the ashes. So he says, so much death, my
• 56:08
  children as he pulls up Gambit's card, which was one of the big moments
• 56:15
  and a bid foreshadowing hint as a lot of people have guessed all season that
• 56:20
  you guess because this has It's happened in the comics, so this is not
• 56:22
  like, you know, a big thing. Gambit at one point in the
• 56:25
  comics became one of Apocalypse of horsemen of Death, and Wolverine in the comics
• 56:31
  also became a horseman of Death, but that was at a different time.
• 56:35
  But judging from the way this is doing, I'm assuming the Wolverine is still
• 56:39
  in the present and will get turned into his horsemen of war or wherever he
• 56:45
  is. He might be in the past too, and Apocalypse might turn him
• 56:47
  to a horseman award, and that might be the way they restore his admittatum
• 56:52
  to his bones, not him, but that should be happening with Okay,
• 56:55
  but yeah, it ain't like this is you know, old Gambit's back like
• 57:04
  that again, when they say horsemen of death, they mean of death.
• 57:07
  He is slinging death wherever he goes, you know, And yeah, well
• 57:14
  true indeed. Yeah, because if you slinging death, it ain't. I
• 57:15
  mean, you know some people might like that. I'm gonna good Gambit.
• 57:22
  Listen. Well, like I said, Rogue was there, and so it
• 57:27
  was night Crawler, and I want to I want to make mention about Rogue
• 57:30
  and her. She did her big one once again in this episode when she
• 57:36
  when she fucking gave the gave the ten piece to bashing and said his name
• 57:40
  was Gambit. Remember it, screaming, crying, throwing up when I said,
• 57:47
  say that, bitch, say that, like when I go, I
• 57:52
  want you to be Rogue. Okay, b Rogue for me. Okay,
• 57:57
  hold my name on like that and let people don't know what the fuck it
• 58:00
  was. But they talking about my name. You know what I'm saying,
• 58:04
  But they talking about me. Let them not forget remember it. Okay,
• 58:10
  it was great and it went in on him and then you know, yes,
• 58:15
  it didn't turn out the way we wanted it to, but she went
• 58:17
  in on him. Nonetheless, I mean it turned out the way we needed
• 58:20
  it to. We needed it to. Yeah, it doesn't turn out the
• 58:22
  way we needed it to. And let's talk about that because that was the
• 58:25
  other big moment of this episode is Cyclops accepting that they can't fight bash It
• 58:30
  because you cannot fight the future, and that's what Bashon represents. And that
• 58:35
  was a yet another moment that has really come up a lot in the conversation
• 58:38
  that we've distressed this on earlier episodes, is that the X Men are fighting
• 58:43
  a two pronged war, like they're fighting against humans mistrust and fear of them
• 58:49
  of the future, and at the same time, they're fighting against machines who
• 58:53
  are evolving to the rate that they will replace and everybody abody because they also
• 59:00
  in the current comments have this other species, posthuman they're dealing with, and
• 59:05
  the machines are like, well, that's cool, but all y'all niggas can
• 59:07
  go. Bashian is the Boorg. So he's like, it's cool. You
• 59:13
  saw how even the arm cable's arm, the way he absorbed that ship and
• 59:19
  became super and Jeel's Super saying five, like, what the fuck super Bashian?
• 59:24
  As you? I wanted to ask bo on Twitter was that he shout
• 59:27
  out to the comic villain Nol. There's a villain and Spider Man lord right
• 59:31
  now called Noel who's basically the god of the symbiotes and Noel has a red
• 59:37
  chest like that. He has the red Spider Man, you know, Venom
• 59:40
  emblem on his chest, and then he grows these wings like that and it's
• 59:44
  always flying around and that's when Venom started getting wings. But he saw Noah
• 59:47
  with them, yeah, all that type of ship. So I was like,
• 59:50
  oh, you're doing the no move and he did that. And also
• 59:52
  he did that on cable, you know when when when Scott fuck him up
• 59:59
  right, Scott was like, yo, we can't fight it, and then
• 1:00:02
  he was just trying to be like essentially trying to save Bash, and I
• 1:00:06
  was just like, you know, I had a little funny feeling like Okay,
• 1:00:09
  I don't know if I like this, but it doesn't matter because then
• 1:00:13
  Bashing did something funny and went into the light. Nigga yated himself. We
• 1:00:17
  went into the light like a fucking moth. And I said, wait a
• 1:00:21
  minute, did he kill himself or I know he's dead, but what happened?
• 1:00:25
  I'm not one hundred percent sure. But once again, okay, House
• 1:00:29
  of X has been out enough time where I do believe they could be referencing
• 1:00:32
  that again in this series in the first issue or one of the first issues
• 1:00:37
  of House of X, a character says, what's inside of a black hole?
• 1:00:40
  I know? And then they open up a black hole in front of
• 1:00:44
  people and all of them get sucked into it. And then that character later
• 1:00:47
  gets transported through time through the black hole. So we see a black hole
• 1:00:52
  type situation operating at the gravity cores, you know, in his ship when
• 1:00:58
  the gravity core collapses and everything starts, it something to it like a black
• 1:01:00
  hole situation. And Bashing. I love the smirk. That was my moment.
• 1:01:05
  That's like, come on, bad, come on. He's like,
• 1:01:10
  you're such a lame and staying on the whole Bash in front. He's ers,
• 1:01:17
  he's very much like everyone losing. But also he he's funny. And
• 1:01:22
  what when I said with the MCU has has had a problem with when we
• 1:01:25
  talk about the live action critical villain or other or or main guy, whatever
• 1:01:30
  you want to call him, antagonist whatever, maybe protagonist that is crucial and
• 1:01:37
  critical to the story that you care about or even have any type of feeling
• 1:01:39
  towards. You had that with Bash and whether you hate him love, you
• 1:01:42
  felt something about that. And he was a good villain, you know what.
• 1:01:46
  Acting was so good too, and like even him saying the smirk like
• 1:01:50
  you said. And then when he said because I said the same thing,
• 1:01:52
  Jubilee popped out, thinking she was gonna go hit him with the streamers,
• 1:01:57
  and he said, what are you gonna do? Fourth of July? Me
• 1:01:59
  to death? I had not said that myself fifty million times. For him
• 1:02:04
  to say that on the show, I was like, wow, and ju
• 1:02:07
  Believe, I mean ju Believe's retort was great, Like I ain't heard that
• 1:02:09
  a million times. It was just just just the back and forth and and
• 1:02:15
  all that it was. It was amazingly done and imp it wasn't it was.
• 1:02:21
  That's a great word. It was impeccable. Yeah, impeccable. And
• 1:02:24
  so back to that, I do believe that bash And will return that season
• 1:02:29
  as he got something to the black Hole, which will tom travel with him
• 1:02:32
  to one of these eras that the X Men are some type of ship like
• 1:02:35
  that you know who before I like, I do want to get to this,
• 1:02:38
  like maybe three more people. But can you explain how or who or
• 1:02:44
  how Asteroid M got the whole thing eat it like that in the first place
• 1:02:47
  or blipped like that in the first place. No, it wasn't that.
• 1:02:51
  It wasn't because, like you said, the thing and no, no bishop,
• 1:02:55
  no bishop explains that it is somebody yeating. The whole thing is somebody
• 1:03:00
  space, or maybe it is the thing yeating itself floading on itself. So
• 1:03:06
  it's all because it's a particle accelerator. So yeah, the engine it might
• 1:03:09
  have been ploaded on itself, but the es men and other people were yeating
• 1:03:14
  out of there before it floaded. Okay, what you're saying. The whole
• 1:03:19
  thing got yeated and then they got thrown to the cast across the multi verse
• 1:03:23
  time himelines and whatnot. Okay, all right, we did talk about some
• 1:03:28
  spot a little bit, Jubilee a little bit, them being back together,
• 1:03:32
  okay. QQQ. I had a question which Bowl and my actually already answered,
• 1:03:37
  and you answered one of the other questions. When I was just like,
• 1:03:39
  how the funck was rogue fighting in space? Technically she was in that
• 1:03:43
  blue zone blue area which has its own atmosphere and all the other stuff.
• 1:03:47
  Jubile Lee was also in fighting in space, and I said, I thought,
• 1:03:51
  and I thought atmosphere. Both said no, that was just when they
• 1:03:54
  were in really high altitude, which can depending on your angle. Appeared that
• 1:03:59
  you're in space, but she wasn't actually in space. I was like,
• 1:04:00
  right, I mean, if you want to, you know, start talking
• 1:04:02
  about it like that. You really had to talk about the distance road traveled
• 1:04:05
  from the asteroid into the Moon for it to be the size in that shot.
• 1:04:11
  I mean it was pretty close, but I don't know relatively. And
• 1:04:15
  yeah, it's space is huge fan, so you know, like that's a
• 1:04:19
  question, it's not it's not a complaint. It was yeah, but that's
• 1:04:21
  you know, comic books, you know, that's so yeah, my man
• 1:04:26
  beasts. I just thought it was cool he ghet or rigged the Sentinel and
• 1:04:30
  used that as a mech you know, and did the whole children horse thing
• 1:04:32
  like. I thought that was cute. Yeah. That was also a call
• 1:04:36
  back to the comments where this dude, one of the mutants has like the
• 1:04:41
  power to relate to this Sentinel and rides inside it in the same way.
• 1:04:45
  Okay, cute, very cute. What else did we got? Oh?
• 1:04:48
  And I guess I don't know if you wanted to talk about these people,
• 1:04:50
  but I want to talk about a lot of the cameos. Now. Yeah,
• 1:04:54
  if I just said, yeah, I think you missed one in a
• 1:04:57
  note, I mean, there's a few I think I don't know, please
• 1:05:00
  please add so so all the cameos that I didn't mention, I said,
• 1:05:03
  go ahead, Daredevil, Cloak and Dacker, Peter Parker and Mary J.
• 1:05:08
  MJ. I said that Samurai nigga because I couldn't remember anything. The nigga
• 1:05:12
  Silver Samurai is still standing on the Silver Samurai. He hasn't moved, is
• 1:05:15
  it he? Yes? Did he? Silver Samurai? He has not moved
• 1:05:18
  since we see him appear like four episodes ago. I think that was also
• 1:05:23
  intentional to show that nigga just you know, that's that, that's that g
• 1:05:26
  of that nigga, you know, like that nigga just waiting for the drama.
• 1:05:30
  Don't break it. He had a more complicated name of it's just silver
• 1:05:33
  Silver. I wish the nigga would that should that should be over the Silver
• 1:05:36
  Samurai child, Uh, Captain American iron Man something now now now I saw
• 1:05:45
  now And at first I was like, they're not doing ship. But then
• 1:05:47
  also somebody was like, well, you know, the Avengers be doing stuff
• 1:05:49
  on the side that you don't know about, which is true. And they
• 1:05:54
  was in the White House with or the bunker with President Kelly. We seen
• 1:05:58
  King to Chaka, King to Chaka, as well as the Door of Malaga.
• 1:06:02
  I don't know if anyone else from Black Panther wasn't been that view shot
• 1:06:06
  screen or that shot. We see doctor Strange performing surgery even in the dark
• 1:06:13
  with the candles, you know, doing his doing his as as Chico Leo
• 1:06:15
  would say, your finger, Jammy's you know, getting that done? Who
• 1:06:19
  else? Is there anybody else that I miss? Oh yeah, okay.
• 1:06:23
  During a lot of the Chef we saw alpha Flight. In one of them,
• 1:06:25
  we see alpha Flight standing with Cyclock, I mean with Silock and situation
• 1:06:30
  sicky and Alpha Flight more if not only transforms into mister Fantastic, he also
• 1:06:36
  transforms into one of our favorites, Sourn I just want to turn the world
• 1:06:43
  into dinosaurs. He I didn't realize I saw mister Fantastic, but I didn't
• 1:06:45
  know he did that. That's your favorite, that's everyone's favorite. For those
• 1:06:50
  who don't know this story real quick, there's a famous panel where Spider Man
• 1:06:57
  is talking to so On. So On is a mutant who can turn into
• 1:07:00
  a dinosaur human a tearod apple. You see Morph turn into him when he
• 1:07:03
  needs to fly for a second in this episode is very quick. He's a
• 1:07:06
  green tereodapto man and Spider Man is talking to him like you're brilliant, because
• 1:07:11
  he's a brilliant scientist. And he's like, you're a brilliant scientist. You
• 1:07:14
  could cure cancer. And so I said, I don't want to cure cancer.
• 1:07:17
  I want to turn the world into dinosaurs. One track minded, you
• 1:07:24
  got it. You can't say nothing to me like you got it? Focused
• 1:07:29
  Nigga, like why do you want to turn the world on a dinosaurs?
• 1:07:33
  You could cure cancer? And he's like, I want to carry a cancer,
• 1:07:35
  Nigga, I want to turn you got it. This is this is
• 1:07:42
  less of a cameo more of a character return. Bishop came back, as
• 1:07:45
  we called it. We was like, he's the only one who haven't we
• 1:07:47
  haven't seen all this time. And before we get to Visha because that wall
• 1:07:53
  is very important. Yeah, and we mentioned Polaris, we mentioned Quick and
• 1:07:59
  Stralla Witch. Then oh you want to talk about the cover? The cover
• 1:08:02
  that was the cover YEP in the mission scene when he comes in to collect
• 1:08:08
  forge Uh to go look for the mutants, which is also hilarious because he
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  said, we ain't been through. The X Men are dead. This ain't
• 1:08:15
  our first rodeo, which is fucking comedy because the X Men are always dead
• 1:08:19
  in the post dead, They're always dying and coming back. They're always and
• 1:08:24
  it's and it points the whole team is always presumed dead like that was a
• 1:08:29
  famous one when they get sucked into the siege Perilists that I've talked about the
• 1:08:32
  early episodes of Magic Portal basically, and this building explodes and the whole world
• 1:08:38
  thinks they did, you know, because everybody sees him going to the building
• 1:08:41
  and then the building blows up, and so they're like, okay, them
• 1:08:44
  Nigga's dead. You know, they don't come out the building. They ain't
• 1:08:45
  no survivors. Nobody finds the body that the niggas dead, and so the
• 1:08:47
  whole world think they did. And then you know, there's a hunt for
• 1:08:51
  that sement. So it's another hunt for that men. But the wall that
• 1:08:56
  Forge is looking to before Bishop shows up features a lot of faith and there's
• 1:09:00
  bars across them. Some say to see some say missing Starlette Witch hilariously for
• 1:09:06
  some reason to say in space off world, and so does Quicksilvers. This
• 1:09:10
  Quicksilver one, it says off world, which probably people assume means that they
• 1:09:14
  are with the Avengers at this time and doing something off world. So that's
• 1:09:17
  probably that. But that wall is a homage to X Men. It's won
• 1:09:25
  something I'm not sure better say famous, covered by John Byrne. It's been
• 1:09:29
  duplicated hundreds of times at this point, but it's from their Days the Future
• 1:09:33
  Past storyline when they first show this ill future where it's all dark, the
• 1:09:39
  Sentinels have taken over and most of the edge Men have been killed or apprehended
• 1:09:44
  by the Sentinels, and so the cover features Wolverine and an older Kitty Pride
• 1:09:48
  shadow Cat who's also one of the faces on that who will probably show up
• 1:09:53
  next season. I can't wait. Love Kitty Pride and was in the pilot
• 1:09:57
  episode of the og X Men series YEP, and then never really showed it.
• 1:10:00
  I think she was in one episode, maybe in like the Regular City
• 1:10:03
  as well, but not many of any I'm not sure, but she wasn't
• 1:10:06
  that pilot, and I don't know if they ever brought her back, but
• 1:10:09
  Kitty Pride will return, but anyway, it's an older Wolverine and an older
• 1:10:12
  Kitty Pride in a spotlight, like the Sentinels had a spotlight on them,
• 1:10:16
  and behind them is this wall. So imagine being a comic book reader.
• 1:10:20
  You're reading one issue the X Men are in present day, everything's fine and
• 1:10:24
  dandy, and then you pick up well, I mean some tragedy that just
• 1:10:27
  happened. It was like Dark Phoenix and all that. Yeah, it's always
• 1:10:30
  tragify it happened, but it's modern day fine. And then you go to
• 1:10:31
  your common store and you see the Nest issue and as old as Wolverine and
• 1:10:35
  an old ass Kitty Pride, and then behind them most of the X Men
• 1:10:41
  are dead or apprehended. It's one of the most classic comic covers of all
• 1:10:45
  time. And like I said, I don't really remember even in Days of
• 1:10:48
  Future pastes showed them ever really doing I mean the movie them doing that cover.
• 1:10:55
  I don't know. Yeah, it's like so iconic that when and I
• 1:11:00
  tell you, you know, pretty much every other comic you know, there's
• 1:11:02
  probably a Superman cover with that image behind him, you know with some people,
• 1:11:06
  didn't they do that in the endgame or if any war wouldn't remember like,
• 1:11:11
  well, he was pulling up and it was a hologram where they were
• 1:11:15
  showing like definitely an homage there, you know, but yeah, just have
• 1:11:18
  that wall and you know, to do it in an X Men property,
• 1:11:21
  I don't feel like it's been done, and that's crazy to me. It's
• 1:11:24
  fun of those like moments. It's just like how when the Flash TV show
• 1:11:28
  was on the CW when it first started, they were murdering it because they
• 1:11:32
  were doing moments, yeah, cooking with grease because it was like you saw
• 1:11:36
  things. I remember when they did this Flash Prepper where the two Flashers are
• 1:11:41
  running to save this woman and it's a it's an old ass Prepper, but
• 1:11:45
  it's a classic Flash cover and they do it. You know, it's like
• 1:11:47
  they have the two Flashes start running forward to save this woman and you're like,
• 1:11:50
  oh fuck, yeah, you know they were like cover like just out
• 1:11:55
  of nowhere. It was so well done the way they did that, and
• 1:11:58
  this is how the show was doing. We talked about it like it's impeccable
• 1:12:00
  because it's like, damn, they just did the cover right there. Boom
• 1:12:03
  did the moment. You know what's going down if you're an X Men fan
• 1:12:06
  and if you're not an x Men fan and you see that imagery you know,
• 1:12:10
  that's such an iconic image and it funcks your head up because I damn
• 1:12:13
  all these niggas is dead or they miss it. Oh shit, he in
• 1:12:15
  s face. Oh fuck, what are they gonna do now? You know?
• 1:12:18
  Next season? Nigga? Wait next next time on dragon ball z very
• 1:12:24
  very drag ball z ish, Yeah, very dragon ballz ish. And in
• 1:12:27
  terms of Easter eggs, you you mentioned a piece of it earlier, that
• 1:12:30
  Magneto's files, that Magneto's Super Top Secret five that President Kelly is holding and
• 1:12:34
  reads and slipping through. They are actually an old to sir Ian McKellen,
• 1:12:40
  Michael foss Bender and David Hemblin. Sir Ian McKellen, as y'all know or
• 1:12:45
  shouldn't know, was the first at at least in the Fox Live Action ones.
• 1:12:47
  It was the first person playing Magneto that Michael foss Bender when they was
• 1:12:51
  doing the Younger Days of Future Past version type stuff, he came in.
• 1:12:55
  And then David Hemlin is was the voice actor in the original series so to
• 1:13:00
  and you'll see it like if you look at Magneto's file, like if you
• 1:13:01
  pause, that's seen that that that frame under his picture, you'll see it,
• 1:13:06
  say his name is Magneto's names and says Eric Leshner, Eric Magnus Leshner,
• 1:13:11
  and then you'll see like Ian like the first names like and you'll see
• 1:13:16
  like pieces of their names there, like it says Michael David Ian something like
• 1:13:19
  that. Then it says children and names all it mentions Polaris, but as
• 1:13:23
  you says, Polaris is blacked out. You just see the letter p It
• 1:13:26
  mentioned Scarlett Witch mentions Pietro. It's it's it's the love and care and dedication
• 1:13:35
  that has been placed into x N ninety seven is beyond compare for long term
• 1:13:42
  listeners. They know how much I love started which and like I said,
• 1:13:44
  it just extends that whole family is it's always the families. I think they
• 1:13:47
  get me in comics, you know, And so it's like the Summer's family
• 1:13:49
  is always one of my favorites. Their relationships and Magneto and his kids and
• 1:13:54
  how he's always fucking with them and not fucking with them. They got the
• 1:13:57
  most abusive relationship. And then Polaris always being this lone one who's just out
• 1:14:00
  and you never know she really is his daughter or not, but she's the
• 1:14:04
  one who has magnet powers. So yeah, she's his daughter, and recently
• 1:14:09
  in the comments, he accepted her, he accepted Strala witch, he accept
• 1:14:11
  the quit silver back of his life. And it was just like one of
• 1:14:13
  my favorite moments. Man. I was like, oh, yeah, are
• 1:14:15
  there any other like Easter eggs or cameos or anything else you wanted to mention?
• 1:14:21
  Yeah, I think we caught all the different cameos that I can remember.
• 1:14:27
  I know. I mean, we should address the elephant in the room
• 1:14:30
  here. A lot of people online were definitely quite upset that T'Challa was not
• 1:14:34
  featured Chaka and to Chaka was featured, which doesn't make sense to me,
• 1:14:39
  because why would o'challa be featured all right, now, they on this they
• 1:14:45
  do have a legitimate reason, because this is as bo has shown and said,
• 1:14:48
  and we see the same Spider manment that Mary Jane from the animated series
• 1:14:54
  that came out in the nineties in the nineties which feature T'Challa at point,
• 1:14:58
  which well, I'm not sure if he was in that, but he was
• 1:15:00
  in another series like people are making. Basically, people are now saying all
• 1:15:05
  those nineties series are shared universe, right, okay, And because of that,
• 1:15:10
  so Challa was featured in those, So why would his dad be here
• 1:15:14
  and not I was thinking the opposite that it was back in the day,
• 1:15:16
  so why would T'Challa be featured? But this is more this in this back
• 1:15:20
  in the day, to Challa was there. Yeah, I get it,
• 1:15:25
  but they're mad. But also like, as far as I know, Marvel
• 1:15:30
  has not chanced straight from their path of at least for now that we're not
• 1:15:33
  featuring anything Tolla's. That's their issue. They're they're quite upset about that.
• 1:15:40
  Yeah, I can't be upset about that. I mean they are, you
• 1:15:42
  know, they like somebody pointed out and this one I have said, this
• 1:15:45
  is the first time, you know, throughout this whole recast of Charlah,
• 1:15:48
  which I know pretty much been like recast your mama because you need to rethink
• 1:15:51
  a lot of decisions in your life. Shout out to Nicia f who coined
• 1:15:57
  that phrase. And this is the first time when someone pointing out the ant
• 1:16:00
  Man has had more springtime than Charla, you know. But I also say
• 1:16:05
  that just because I hated ant Man three and so I was like, damn,
• 1:16:09
  they really wasted air Man three and they could have just recast this nigga
• 1:16:11
  and you know, Man three was such a throwaway. Yeah, I know.
• 1:16:14
  And it's like I would have rather they recast the child over that.
• 1:16:16
  You know, that's just my distrust with ant Man three. I would have
• 1:16:19
  rather they did anything. I mean, I just feel like, let it
• 1:16:27
  happen. Let it happen, Like we'll go to child thing because y'all gonna
• 1:16:30
  be complaining about something else later. And I don't know, it's just we
• 1:16:33
  have so many and I guess it's the same as us, like we're gonna
• 1:16:36
  make critiques and it's not necessarily for us. Most times, it's not necessarily
• 1:16:40
  a complaint. We're just making a contact to have like full blown like being
• 1:16:43
  upset about it. I'm like, yeah, you might want to come.
• 1:16:46
  And also to be full blown upset about it online is only putting more money
• 1:16:50
  into Marvel's pockets. Like that's what people fail to realize. This whole campaign
• 1:16:56
  is just drawing attention to Marvel and mad people will hate watching more, you
• 1:17:00
  know, because of it, and they're gonna just keep making money. So
• 1:17:02
  if that was enough to make you hate watch or have any negative with ninety
• 1:17:09
  seven, that's insane to me. Yeah, I know, but that was
• 1:17:12
  one and even with the announcement recently that Ryan Cooliger might be considered to direct
• 1:17:16
  X Men. People work highly episode for you know the same you know weirdos,
• 1:17:20
  honestly, And my last point on this is I've made many time before,
• 1:17:25
  is that these all these characters, no matter what race, whatever that
• 1:17:31
  you, no matter what they mean to you, are owned by a company
• 1:17:34
  that don't give up fuck you know, like, they will do what they
• 1:17:40
  do to make money. They will capitalize on making money, so they will
• 1:17:43
  make a black panther film. But at the same time, they're gonna make
• 1:17:45
  a black panther film that features women that might not always feature to Challah,
• 1:17:49
  because that's how you make money. You blow up all your characters so that
• 1:17:53
  you can maximize the profits. That being said, there's so many black characters
• 1:18:00
  that are owned by black people that we could and should support Jimmy Hendricks Purple
• 1:18:06
  Hazing store soon. I don't actually own that one, but you know,
• 1:18:09
  we get it. Yeah, you still support black ran and black character and
• 1:18:13
  black character black. Yeah. So I just really hate when this kicks up
• 1:18:18
  every time because it's always like, to me, man, Marvel owns this
• 1:18:21
  shit, and there's so many other characters that we do own. And yes,
• 1:18:25
  the ch'allo was the first black chair of the books. You know he's
• 1:18:29
  first, he't the last. Moving on, let's yeah, guys, that
• 1:18:33
  that's okay. That said, we like you said, we might have touched
• 1:18:39
  on the characters and everything about it. I wanted to make a point that
• 1:18:44
  X Men ninety seven has been nominated for a Breakthrough Drama Series for the twenty
• 1:18:48
  twenty four Gotham Awards. Are they all? And reportedly the Remember episode has
• 1:18:54
  been put up as an entry for an Emmy in the Best Animated Series category
• 1:18:58
  for the twenty twenty four Primetime Emmys. That's a tough choice. I guess
• 1:19:00
  I put Remember it too, though, because remember it is a problem.
• 1:19:04
  It's a problem. It's it's such a turning point and pulls in so much.
• 1:19:10
  But and you can you can argue this episode, this episode is the
• 1:19:13
  one. But and again, this is all reportedly, this is not all,
• 1:19:16
  This is not you know, nigga, This shit gonna be up for
• 1:19:18
  the Golden Globe for them, And that's why I want to say, this
• 1:19:23
  has to go up for everything. And also this is the one where my
• 1:19:26
  rant comes in. Y'all have to y'all meeting these academies and folks and all
• 1:19:30
  that y'all have to respect animation. I'm tired of one it always being just
• 1:19:34
  relegated to animated because we're talking about a drama. Regardless of the medium in
• 1:19:41
  which it's being presented, it's still a drama, and on top of that,
• 1:19:45
  just giving it its due. Like I feel like like there's so many
• 1:19:48
  anime series where like I forgot with the exception of one award show for example,
• 1:19:55
  Pnemona, which was incredible, was only nominated like one time. I
• 1:19:58
  don't even know if was a nominated for Academy Award or a wife right,
• 1:20:00
  and maybe that was the one that it got. But like the way that
• 1:20:05
  there's not enough attention paid to animation, or like I saw this and it
• 1:20:10
  could have been a repeat of years of this tweak that keeps coming up.
• 1:20:13
  But someone was like, how old were you when you stopped watching cartoons?
• 1:20:16
  And one of my friends shout out the hood opulnce, he said, stopped
• 1:20:21
  Like that idea that anything animated is is childish or reserved for children, or
• 1:20:28
  is immature, any any of those negative connotations is wild to me. I
• 1:20:32
  think X Man ninety seven is going to break and it already is breaking all
• 1:20:38
  those boundaries because I think it's one of those shows that people are watching and
• 1:20:41
  forgetting they're watching a cartoon or watching animation. You know. I think they're
• 1:20:45
  just watching and it's so absorbing and so evolving that they're just they're getting involved
• 1:20:48
  in these characters, and they're like not even watching it and or watching it
• 1:20:54
  as a cartoon or thinking I'm watching a cartoon is something for kids. Think
• 1:20:58
  they're watching it and realizing, oh, this is animation for grown folks,
• 1:21:01
  and it's telling a great story. So I can watch things of this nature.
• 1:21:04
  So I think this is going to lead to a revival of more television
• 1:21:08
  show So we already have a lot of movies that adults can realize, Okay,
• 1:21:12
  this is an anime movie like Into the Spider Verses. Spider Versus a
• 1:21:15
  perfect example of stories that it does. Like it's just a good story.
• 1:21:18
  It's a good movie. It's not about the genre. It's a good movie,
• 1:21:21
  or not even genre the medium. It's a good movie. And we've
• 1:21:25
  talked about this, and I get what you're saying that, like, did
• 1:21:29
  I think the academies need to pay more respect but I do feel because at
• 1:21:32
  certain points I was like, Yo, Spider Verse should be nominated for Best
• 1:21:34
  Picture. But then I'm like, I only feel that because I was mad
• 1:21:38
  at lost and I feel like there's only one category for animation. But at
• 1:21:42
  the same time, I think animation needs to be respected as its own art
• 1:21:46
  form. And I'm sure they're animation awards where they, you know, have
• 1:21:49
  different categories, et cetera. And I'm sure they have their own version of
• 1:21:51
  the O Scores or whatever. Yeah, So because that's why I feel like
• 1:21:57
  it should be because it is it's own medium and has shown the joys and
• 1:22:01
  the greatness of animation. So I think that needs to be taken an account.
• 1:22:05
  Absolutely. I think it needs both. I think it needs it needs
• 1:22:09
  its own space and just and to your point, more attention in general.
• 1:22:13
  And I love that you mentioned Spider Verse. Like I said, just good
• 1:22:15
  story regardless of what it is, and it's not relegated to age. A
• 1:22:20
  good story is a good story, and whether it's animated or not, you
• 1:22:24
  know, in bright colors or not, it's still a good story. You
• 1:22:26
  have anime, you have the Western US animation, you have you have DC,
• 1:22:30
  you have Marvel, you have everything in between, and and and the
• 1:22:35
  fact that you can tell something so compelling if it's cgi whatever, the fact
• 1:22:40
  that you can tell something so compelling that spans across generations. That's also what
• 1:22:45
  I mean when about the fact of just giving it more respect and all of
• 1:22:49
  that, that idea that you can't watch it because you're an adult, and
• 1:22:53
  just that fuck out of here. Well, I think Marvel is really Marvel
• 1:22:58
  Invincible are really leading that charge, you know, to make it, especially
• 1:23:02
  as TV series, to make it acceptable for adults to watch the animated TV
• 1:23:08
  series that tackles adult things and not just adult things like something like Big Mouth,
• 1:23:12
  you know, where it's you know, kids talk about sex. Yeah,
• 1:23:15
  yeah, more like where it's an adult story, grown folks business.
• 1:23:18
  And I think they're really leading the charge on that. Like we have The
• 1:23:21
  Spider Man the Early Years coming later this season that's going to show that Peter
• 1:23:27
  Parker MCU before we see him and the MCU, and so I can't wait
• 1:23:32
  for that. I think they're gonna knock that out of the park as well.
• 1:23:35
  We have another season of this. People are calling for a whole animated
• 1:23:40
  revival of the Nineties Universe like that Spider Man Show featuring the Spider Man we
• 1:23:44
  see in this episode, which I'd be down for. I'll be down for
• 1:23:47
  the impact that ninety four. I'll never forget randomly watching that Spider Man ninety
• 1:23:53
  four one day, you know, I'm in my house in Houston watching this
• 1:23:56
  ship and Tombstone falls over the edge of a building, and Tombstone, who's
• 1:24:00
  coated as Black mind you, falls over the edge of his building. Spider
• 1:24:03
  Man grabs him and this nigga Peter Parker says, he's heavy, He's not
• 1:24:10
  my brother, and they are doing the image of he's not heavy, he's
• 1:24:15
  my brother. I cried. It's one of the funniest moments. And for
• 1:24:25
  somebody on that team to know that imagery of the two brothers holding one up,
• 1:24:30
  you know, from the hood, like everybody know that in the hood,
• 1:24:32
  and somebody in that team to know that and make that joke. That
• 1:24:36
  Spider Man Show was ahead of its time, just like that has been showed
• 1:24:40
  ahead of its time. So I'd be down for a revival of that as
• 1:24:42
  well. I'm down for whatever, you know. And we got to talk
• 1:24:46
  about Boat, you know, like what happened, God damn it. But
• 1:24:50
  figuring that out, y'all. One my point I wanted to make just about
• 1:24:55
  what we were just talking about, just in terms of respecting animation as and
• 1:24:58
  art form and then getting his flowers and things like that, that I would
• 1:25:00
  argue, and you had you had said something that that maybe wanted to make
• 1:25:02
  this comment to, I would argue that, particularly X Men, the animated
• 1:25:06
  series has always been some grown folks shit. Oh yeah, it's a soap
• 1:25:12
  opera at the end of the day. Those are the stories and yeah,
• 1:25:15
  and I and I remember even when when when this whole thing with ninety seven
• 1:25:19
  started and we were talking about it, I was like, those are my
• 1:25:23
  stories when I was a kid. That Gargoyles, Batman beyond, that's some
• 1:25:30
  that's not some lighthearted you know key we're hitting each other with with acme hammers.
• 1:25:34
  That's some some serious shit going on that may or may not be be
• 1:25:40
  processing in the you know, the mind of a ten year old or whatever.
• 1:25:43
  You are right like, it's it's it hits different, especially when you
• 1:25:45
  watch it as an adult, you're like, whoa, that's what they were
• 1:25:48
  talking about. Those are the themes that they were exploring grown people shape,
• 1:25:51
  but really complex themes that are often explored and dissected in the animated art.
• 1:26:00
  And you talked about Batman Beyond and that came out of Batman the animated series,
• 1:26:05
  with which is another one that I was like, that was the most
• 1:26:08
  grind breaking ship. I remember like running home from school like, yo,
• 1:26:12
  I gotta watch this shit coming on, Like Yovan Batman had the things coming
• 1:26:15
  off, coming home to watch this ship, and then being like, what
• 1:26:18
  the fuck y'all niggas put this shit on TV? When yet that stuff,
• 1:26:25
  like Dan, that's what they were talking about. I was shot. Then
• 1:26:28
  there's an episode where they showed the murder of Bruce Way's parents and it is
• 1:26:31
  one of the most like disturbing ways of showing that you could imagine blood pours
• 1:26:38
  out the barrel of a gun. It was something I never thought about,
• 1:26:41
  and to this day I remember, oh, yeah, I was sitting out,
• 1:26:45
  yeah, And then you know, to this day, I'm like,
• 1:26:49
  and I think that was one this one episode they only aired one time at
• 1:26:54
  the time because it got so much like people were like, Yo, what
• 1:26:56
  the fuck? I think that might have been it. And then I've talked
• 1:26:59
  about this. The X Men and animated series original had an episode that was
• 1:27:01
  the origin of Mister Sinister that featured Jack the Ripper, Like and no X
• 1:27:06
  Men in took place in the sixteen hundreds. These niggas was out of their
• 1:27:10
  mind back then too, Like shout out to them niggas because they was fucking
• 1:27:13
  like, fuck it, we doing what we need to do, you know,
• 1:27:15
  like fuck y'all kids. Fuck them kids straight up. Like, you
• 1:27:18
  know, if they get it, they get it. If they don't,
• 1:27:19
  they don't. But we're gonna do this. It last stuff on a Saturday
• 1:27:24
  morning, you know cartoon show. So Bow and the rest of the team
• 1:27:28
  is just standing on the shoulders. Man. You know, I'd love to
• 1:27:30
  see it. They standing the shoulder And I thought you were gonna say they're
• 1:27:32
  standing on business. Oh both. And I know that we're probably gonna have
• 1:27:38
  an all star review of the season at large. X Men ninety seven stood
• 1:27:42
  on Big Business. It did his Big one, it did usion bars at
• 1:27:46
  the end, stuck the landing, got all the gold medals, all that
• 1:27:49
  stuff. Just absolute triumph of the anime show. And I salute to Bow
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