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Jaguars Happy Hour | Lawrence vs. Burrow & More Storylines in #JAXvsCIN · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October 1st. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: And now, a guy who believes any problem can be
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  Speaker 1: solved with a simple controlled burn, Brian Sexton.
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  Speaker 2: Jeez, oh Pete.
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  Speaker 3: I gave that one to you. I gave it to you.
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  Speaker 3: I used that controlled burn thing. You probably don't recall it.
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  Speaker 2: No, you did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 3: I used it with you. I used it with everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Take out the underbrush.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, take the underbrush out. The Jags did that last week.
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  Speaker 5: They sure did.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they did. They had a great week on
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  Speaker 3: the practice field. And what a game.
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  Speaker 2: What a performance. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What a performance against the new England Patriots. We'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about that. We're here till five o'clock and then Tony
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  Speaker 3: Buscelli and James Gladstone evict coach Duffner across the way.
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  Speaker 3: They take the seats in the microphones. We have Jags
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  Speaker 3: HQ coming for you. Um, let's get to some of
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  Speaker 3: the big things, right? I mean, some of the big
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  Speaker 3: things on my mind this week, you were busy. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that I ran these by you. I
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  Speaker 3: hope they are in your tube. Uh, Run it or
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  Speaker 3: rip it, right? I mean, the old school way of
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  Speaker 3: playing great quarterbacks. Remember when Jack was the coach here.
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  Speaker 3: They would go play Peyton Manning. They had Fred Taylor
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  Speaker 3: and Maurice Jones through. You shorten the game, right?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Shorten the game. That's not how they do it anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Now they rip it. No.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's just not in the DNA of many coaches nowadays.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not. And here's the thing. If you're the
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, maybe you do that. Because you've got a
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  Speaker 2: defense that's just phenomenal. How about number one in every category?
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  Speaker 2: They're literally one of the scariest defenses that has been
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL in the last couple decades.
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  Speaker 5: I can't think of another one that's number one.
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  Speaker 6: When you look at all the lists right now, they're
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  Speaker 6: first in every category in the league right now.
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  Speaker 2: But if you don't have the Vikings defense, the philosophy
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  Speaker 2: that you're talking about, run the ball, shorten the game,
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  Speaker 2: limit the plays by the opposing team.
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  Speaker 3: Keep Joe Burrow on the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because here's the thing, if you do that,
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  Speaker 2: you lose a lot of your energy because you're slowing
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  Speaker 2: the tempo, I think. And some coaches believe that sometimes
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  Speaker 2: if you run tempo... It creates energy. It keeps the
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  Speaker 2: team that you're playing off balance. And so you're losing,
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  Speaker 2: even though you're gaining one thing, you're losing a lot
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  Speaker 2: of other things. And the reality is, unless you string
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of plays together, are you really shortening the game?
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  Speaker 2: You've got to make first down after first down after
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  Speaker 2: first down to do all that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to go. A little behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 3: I went to chat GPT today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, goodness.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, because I have chat GPT set up to
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  Speaker 3: give me a dashboard on the Jaguars run game, on Trevor,
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  Speaker 3: on all these.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if coaches, any coach in the league uses,
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  Speaker 2: did you ever use chat GPT in game planning? Shoot,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what the heck it was.
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  Speaker 5: I was trying to chat on some kind of success,
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  Speaker 5: that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so anyway, I... I came up with, I asked
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  Speaker 3: it to give me some of the next-gen numbers and
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  Speaker 3: make it make sense. And the whole philosophy, this is
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  Speaker 3: how damn smart the thing is, is that I'd not
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  Speaker 3: build a game plan around keep Joe Burrow on the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: I'd keep it around Trevor Lawrence in rhythm. And I thought, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's very interesting, Chad GPT. What else can you tell me?
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  Speaker 3: And it came back with a little, you know, Here's it.
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  Speaker 3: The Jaguars shouldn't play keep away from Joe Burrow. They
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  Speaker 3: should play keep going with Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This AI stuff is pretty smart.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder who that guy is. I need to
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  Speaker 5: get his phone number.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, chat GPT. But that's the point is the quarterback
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  Speaker 3: is playing so well right now. You can't possibly think
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  Speaker 3: we're going to go in there and just run the
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  Speaker 3: ball to shorten the game because your quarterback is playing
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  Speaker 3: at an exceedingly high level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing. He's seeing it so well. And I
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  Speaker 2: use the term this week in the film room that
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  Speaker 2: he could be renamed Neo. Which Neo is the character,
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  Speaker 2: and I've actually mentioned this. Hold on a second. Duff.
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  Speaker 2: In the movie business, okay, do you know who Neo
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  Speaker 2: is in The Matrix?
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  Speaker 5: I do not.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Apologize for that.
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  Speaker 2: Two guys out of touch. I should know. I am
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  Speaker 2: out of touch, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Pop culture. I was trying to stop people. Jeff, The
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  Speaker 3: Matrix was out in like 1999, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, that's why I figured Duff would know.
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  Speaker 6: But at the time, a major league movie for sure,
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  Speaker 6: but I was still... trying to see if I could
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  Speaker 6: keep people out of the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: So let me read this real quick before we talk
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  Speaker 3: about this. And this is our quarterback preview, Jeff, brought
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  Speaker 3: to you by Seabreeze Propane. Seabreeze Propane, slow mascot, fast delivery.
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  Speaker 3: This floor is yours, my friend. Quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: He's been fantastic. I mean, look, again, he's seeing the
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  Speaker 2: game like Neo, and there was a couple plays that
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  Speaker 2: really stood out. Obviously, the throw to Josh Cameron. He
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  Speaker 2: identifies that the defensive end is not where he's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be at. in a whole drop with a three-man
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  Speaker 2: rush and an eight-man drop. He identifies that with Jacoby.
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  Speaker 2: He gets rid of it at the last possible minute.
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  Speaker 2: On that 15-play drive, there were like four plays that
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  Speaker 2: he had that a lot of people just completely discount.
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  Speaker 2: The throw to Jacoby was fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: They were wow plays. I mean, wow plays.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's got people draped all over him. In
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  Speaker 6: the threat of pressure, blitz, and makes beautiful throws.
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  Speaker 2: The one to Jacoby for the touchdown, which is what
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing here, was just spectacular because the pocket was
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  Speaker 2: really good. Okay, really good. Yeah. And if you look
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  Speaker 2: at it from the end zone copy, you can see
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  Speaker 2: that Jacoby's not even in the field of view. When
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  Speaker 2: Trevor makes the decision to throw the ball, well, it
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  Speaker 2: ends up being an underneath defender and then a defender
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  Speaker 2: on the left, a defender on the right. Trevor throws
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  Speaker 2: it high, which... When you see him release it, you're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: why would you throw it high? Well, then the guy
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  Speaker 2: drifts into the middle, and you're like, oh, yeah. He
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  Speaker 2: dropped it in there beautifully. That guy is going to
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  Speaker 2: be there. And then he puts it equidistant between the
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  Speaker 2: two defenders, the left and the right defender. So it was, like,
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  Speaker 2: completely perfect. I couldn't have taken the ball, walked out there,
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  Speaker 2: and said, I wanted it right here as if I
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  Speaker 2: was Neo in the Matrix, and said, okay, here's the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Here's where it needs to be for Jacoby. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so let's see how in touch you are with things,
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  Speaker 3: my friend. And how about this? Trevor Lawrence is– has
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  Speaker 3: an offensive success rate of 48.9%. Does that mean anything?
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: See, right. So I am in touch with some things. Um,
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  Speaker 3: I've been playing in this whole idea of some of
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  Speaker 3: the next-gen stuff just to get a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: perspective because it's something that all these young coaches use, right?
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  Speaker 3: All these young scouts talk about. Success rate measures a
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  Speaker 3: play based on the play's outcome, right? So is it
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  Speaker 3: a successful play or is it not a successful play?
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  Speaker 3: And I guess it asks the simple question. How often
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  Speaker 3: did the play accomplish what the offense needed it to accomplish,
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  Speaker 3: giving the down and distance? So like on a run play, right?
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  Speaker 3: Four yards on first and 10 might be a successful run.
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  Speaker 3: Four yards on third and seven wouldn't be a successful run.
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  Speaker 3: So it rewards the success of the play. Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Beyond expectation.
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  Speaker 3: Now you're getting a little bit. I haven't got that far.
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  Speaker 5: The expectation, what that down and distance, what that play
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  Speaker 5: should allow.
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  Speaker 3: But I guess the point is that it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: whether you're on the old numbers or the new numbers.
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  Speaker 3: The quarterback is having incredible success. And he is making
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  Speaker 3: plays that count.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a little bit more of
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  Speaker 2: a simple format.
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  Speaker 3: Please do.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Instead of this next-gen stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I was just trying to prove there's a little relevance
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't go back to 1999.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So since last midseason. Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Are we talking like the Houston game where everything turned?
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  Speaker 2: Midseason, right in the middle of the season. That was Houston.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right about there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. The Jaguars 10-2, scoring 31 points a game, and
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  Speaker 2: Trevor playing like a top three quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Well, just how about this?
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  Speaker 3: You win. You win.
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  Speaker 2: How about this?
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  Speaker 6: This is his 13th game with three or more touchdowns passing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the guy is a maestro right now of
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  Speaker 5: the offense.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you one more. Last nine games, 22 touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: three interceptions, and seven of those nine games have been
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  Speaker 2: over a 100 quarterback rating.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so for people who now are just like,
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  Speaker 3: please stop with the numbers because I can't keep up.
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  Speaker 2: He's really good.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. I guess the point is, We're going to
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  Speaker 3: Cincinnati this weekend with a quarterback that is capable of
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  Speaker 3: standing on the field toe-to-toe with Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 2: All day long.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: All day long. And here's the part that I think
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  Speaker 2: will separate Trevor and is separating Trevor right now. The
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  Speaker 2: rest of the team and the staff and the players
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  Speaker 2: around Trevor and the rest of his team as a
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  Speaker 2: whole They're playing well across the board. And look, the
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  Speaker 2: Bengals are playing well too.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but I think that there's– and he's got two
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  Speaker 2: marvelous weapons at wide receiver that are just ridiculous in T.
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  Speaker 2: Higgins and Jamar Chase. But I would take all of
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  Speaker 2: the other weapons that we have. I mean, now I'd take,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins. He's pretty good, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and it would be a debate, okay, if
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  Speaker 2: you put Parker Washington– okay, Parker, T., and Jamar Chase–
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  Speaker 2: and you can have two of the three, that's not
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  Speaker 2: an easy decision.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. It's not because this man across the
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  Speaker 3: table from me told me this morning that what Jamar
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  Speaker 3: Chase really is is a bigger version of Parker Washington. No,
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  Speaker 3: that's a fact.
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  Speaker 6: If you look at those guys from the waist down
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  Speaker 6: right now, they have running backs' legs.
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  Speaker 2: Exact same.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exact same.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good act.
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  Speaker 3: So back to my thesis here for this, and this
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  Speaker 3: is me, not ChatGBT. Run it to make Cincinnati defend
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  Speaker 3: the run. And then let Trevor go and win the game.
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  Speaker 3: Because if you make Cincinnati defend the run, then you're
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  Speaker 3: going to open up things for the receivers. And listen,
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  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen talked a couple of days ago about the
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  Speaker 3: running game and its effectiveness.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously the skill players in ways to where it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: not every down is so critical. Not every throw is
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  Speaker 4: so magnified that, you know, the quarterback has enough critical
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  Speaker 4: downs throughout a game. He's got so much on his plate,
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  Speaker 4: you know, with the overall system, the game plan, but
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  Speaker 4: like Third downs, red zone, two minute, like those critical
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  Speaker 4: downs that we all know are so important in this
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  Speaker 4: league and you need to have elite quarterback play in
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  Speaker 4: those downs in order to be successful as a team.
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  Speaker 4: To be able to run the football and take some
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  Speaker 4: of that off of him and the O-line, right? Like
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  Speaker 4: in pass pro. I mean, if you're just sitting back
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  Speaker 4: there dropping back 50 times, you're putting arguably the two
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  Speaker 4: hardest positions on offense in harm's way.
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  Speaker 3: Facial tootin right now is playing such good for i'm
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  Speaker 3: playing right into your hands that little smile tells me
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  Speaker 3: i am uh 4.4 yards after contract a contact jeff
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  Speaker 3: second only to bijan robinson he is second in success
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  Speaker 3: rate the aforementioned success rate and third in forcing missed
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  Speaker 3: tackles per.
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  Speaker 2: Attempt yeah he's he's running well and the crazy thing
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  Speaker 2: is is that i think that there's a lot more
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  Speaker 2: left you know meat on the bone so to speak
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  Speaker 2: um If he adds a 40 or a 35 or
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  Speaker 2: a 50 or a 60 or a 70 or an
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  Speaker 2: 80-yard run to the stats that he has right now,
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  Speaker 2: he's right there at the top amongst the backs in
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  Speaker 2: the National Football League. I think there's another tick that
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  Speaker 2: he can hit, and that's once he gets in the
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  Speaker 2: open field, slowing it down a little bit, make a
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  Speaker 2: guy miss, and then turn on the Jets. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of times once he gets through the hole, he's trying
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  Speaker 2: to turn it on maybe a little bit too quick
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes he's getting knocked down. But I think there's
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  Speaker 2: more Duff, more meat on the bone.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I do too.
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  Speaker 6: And, you know, he's clocked right now at the very
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  Speaker 6: top of the league in terms of speed when he's
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  Speaker 6: running with the football, which is, again, indicative of the
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  Speaker 6: speed the guy's got. He's inches from breaking a big one.
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  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you this, the offensive line the other
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  Speaker 6: day blocked like crazy, run and pass. And how about
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  Speaker 6: our receivers? I'm watching– I'm watching Jacoby Myers. I'm watching
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  Speaker 6: Josh Cameron. I'm watching Brenton Strange making blocks downfield. This
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  Speaker 6: is a team effort right now that this run game
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  Speaker 6: is feeding off of and making progress.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see two wide receivers block a little
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  Speaker 2: better than they did in that game, and that's Parker
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  Speaker 2: Washington and Brian Thomas Jr. I think they can do
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  Speaker 2: better than what they did in this past game.
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  Speaker 3: And if everybody's blocking like Strange and Jacoby and Josh,
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  Speaker 3: then you are giving him that opportunity to take it.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason why Josh Cameron got 30 snaps in
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  Speaker 2: that game this past week and Brian Thomas Jr. got
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  Speaker 2: 30 snaps as well. They both bring something different to
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  Speaker 2: the table. Brian Thomas Jr. brings an elite speed that's
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  Speaker 2: just unparalleled. And you just can't coach that. Josh Cameron
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  Speaker 2: brings a physicality and an ability to block and stick
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  Speaker 2: his nose in there and strong hands and likes it
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  Speaker 2: in the middle where it's loud. And that's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're kind of two different players. If Josh Cameron had
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  Speaker 2: the home run speed that Brian Thomas Jr. has, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think Josh, I mean, that Brian would see the field.
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  Speaker 2: But he doesn't have that speed. I mean, that's something
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  Speaker 2: that Bryant has. It's elite.
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  Speaker 3: Last week, the guy who gave them the most opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to win was to have Josh Cameron on the field more.
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  Speaker 2: In certain scenarios.
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  Speaker 3: Because he really didn't try to throw it deep that much.
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  Speaker 2: In certain scenarios. But I'll say this. Taking the top
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  Speaker 2: off of the defense, and Duff, you know this. As
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  Speaker 2: a defensive coach, if the team that you're facing has
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  Speaker 2: a guy that can literally run by everybody, it changes
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  Speaker 2: the way that you game plan.
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  Speaker 5: The whole way, absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: You're nervous waiting for that bomb to go off.
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  Speaker 5: When will it go off? Can it go off? It's
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  Speaker 5: big time.
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  Speaker 6: So having that threat is big time for our offense.
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  Speaker 6: I'll say another thing to you about Cameron as we're
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  Speaker 6: talking about him a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: What a ball game. Personal protector.
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  Speaker 6: Kickoff tackle i think right after the kickoff it was
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  Speaker 6: 42 or three yard return which gives us the ball
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  Speaker 6: at midfield two he's had three catches again two for
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  Speaker 6: touchdowns you talk about value and contribution oh wow.
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  Speaker 3: Three targets yeah three catches that's right two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah i mean just unbelievable what this guy's done and
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  Speaker 6: the run blocking he's not afraid to get in there
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  Speaker 6: and get dirty.
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  Speaker 2: And if if people uh just All that talk back
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  Speaker 2: in the spring, the draft, and James Gladstone and Pacelli
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  Speaker 2: and Liam and their Jaguar DNA and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever had a chance to talk to Josh Cameron? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what a super nice guy. It's just like
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  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Pregnant. I mean, talk to those two guys, and
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  Speaker 2: then you'll get an idea as to what they're looking
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  Speaker 2: for when it comes to that quote-unquote Jaguar's DNA.
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  Speaker 3: I was on stage with Josh at a ticketing event.
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  Speaker 3: out at the block on Tuesday evening, players day off, right?
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  Speaker 3: And he is out there. And we did a Q & A, 15,
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  Speaker 3: 20 minutes, could have gone an hour, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's just engaging like that. And then afterwards, he stays around,
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  Speaker 3: walks through the crowd, signs autographs, just enjoying the moment, right?
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  Speaker 3: Just picking up on that. I talked to him in
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  Speaker 3: the locker room today for an interview for our pregame
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  Speaker 3: show on Sunday. And again, this is a guy whose upside, Jeff,
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  Speaker 3: seems to be significant.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's interesting too that um you know he was.
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  Speaker 3: A walk-on a walk-on at baylor he was a state
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  Speaker 3: champion at cedar park high and he was a walk-on at.
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  Speaker 2: Baylor which uh there's something about guys that come from
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: a walk-on background or an undrafted background in that there's
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: a work ethic that was that was learned because that's
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: what they had to do to make it yeah And
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: so when you have, and the perfect combination is somebody
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: that is like a late bloomer that has to learn
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the work ethic before the talent really is there. And
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: then if the talent develops, well, you have the work
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: ethic already there and then the talent. And when those
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: two come together, you've got a tremendous player. And so
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: you can tell that the way he practices all through
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: training camp, watching Josh, that he has that walk-on mindset
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: that he's got to earn it. And that's the type of,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: work ethic that's going to lead you to success.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: Without a doubt.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: The maturity that they develop, the appreciation they develop for opportunity,
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: then they know the way to go after that opportunity
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: and make it productive. That's exactly what you want. Kudos
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: again to the evaluation process here.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: The first-round picks, they don't have any work. They're lazy
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: as hell. Yeah. First-rounder right here.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: It's fun to be able to poke fun at yourself,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: especially when you were a first-round pick.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: It's well done.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break. This weekend's Jaguars-Bengals matchup
• 16:57
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• 17:02
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• 17:06
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• 17:12
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• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Our defensive conversation in this hour is brought to you
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: by our friends at GEHA, Government Employees Health Association. Dexter Lawrence.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Sexy Dexy, as he was once known.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Dexter?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Big man, big personality, and a big reason why the
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: run defense in Cincinnati, which was dead last in the
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: NFL last year, 165.2 yards per game allowed. Think about that.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Is about 60% better this year, only giving up 95.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still think, and I'm going to let
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Duff expand on this a little bit, because I think
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: there's some chinks in the armor once you get past
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence, and then Jonathan Allen.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, those guys up front, that's going to be
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: a major challenge for our interior offensive line, but Pittsburgh
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: kind of gave us the blueprint on how to attack
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: them in the run game. They predominantly ran outside to
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: the tune of over 130 yards and about six yards
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: a carry. So, you know, we want to challenge those
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: linebackers right now. They're still, I think, developing at that
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: position at Cincinnati. When you've got those two guys in front,
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: those guys should be a little bit more active, I think.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: We'll see how they are, but There was missed tackles
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: in the game that I think affected their outcome as
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: far as the run defense was concerned. But I like
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: the matchup we've got going in right now, especially trying
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: to attack their outside.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I heard right there? I heard
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: that the linebackers aren't playing worth poo. Because they don't
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: have a very good coach, and they need to hire
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: me back. No, no, no.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: We won't let you go.
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  Speaker 5: Not even close.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Duff, you are a full-time broadcaster now, my friend.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Not even close.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: You're here.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: But he's right. The linebackers, look, we get to watch
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: our linebackers behind Devon Hamilton. And you can tell that
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: it makes them better. And you watch Dexter Lawrence, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: then you watch the two guys that are playing behind him,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and you just don't see that. that elevation of play
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: because of the stalwarts that you have up front. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the big question would be is that how would they
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: be if they didn't have two giant guys up front
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: of them? So I think Duff is dead on the money.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And look, we've got a back in Basial Tootin' that
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: gets to the outside as good as any. We've got
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: two tight ends that block as good as any on
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the edge. And then we've also got some edge blockers.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: in Jacoby Myers and Josh Cameron that do an exceptional job.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: And if you look back at the last game when
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Basial did get to the outside, those were the guys
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that were getting it done.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Well, surely everybody who looks at that defense says, let's
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: run outside. How do the Bengals counter? How do they
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: make you run inside against Dexter Lawrence?
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to see what they deploy. I mean,
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: that's for sure. Are they going to try to come
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: down with hard corners? Are they going to play eight
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: men in the box? What are they going to do
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: as far as that's concerned? Are they going to come
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: with more perimeter pressure?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Could you play eight men in the box against this offense?
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I think you can try.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: I think that Pittsburgh also did a good job with
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: motion and formation to get themselves an advantageous play selection
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: as far as that's concerned. And they got the ball
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: to their playmakers. And golly, last week our distribution to
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: our playmakers was excellent. It wasn't the very first game, too,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: so I see a lot of that happening and putting
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: a lot of stress on their defense.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I just don't see, and I think that's what's kind
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: of unique about the Jaguars' offense right now is that
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: there's not one area that you can say, you know what,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: we're going to really work on taking away this. You can.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Because if you work on taking away this, then this, this,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and this become prevalent. And that's when an offense is
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: at its best.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's not only with the personnel, meaning the players,
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: but how about the personnel groupings? That's why the 13 personnel,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: the three tight ends, one receiver, 12 personnel, two tight ends,
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: like Jeff was talking about, two receivers, or 11, or
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: even 10 personnel, four wideouts. We've got all those personnel
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: groups that are vibrant groups. in terms of what they
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: can do to put stress on the defense.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Well, Liam Cohen talked a little bit this week. They
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: are committed to the run, right? A year ago, final
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: six games, Jeff, 3.3 yards per carry. It just let
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: them down. So far this year in three games, 4.4
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: yards per carry. And the coach is pretty enthusiastic about
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: what he's seeing from his group.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: He had a turn.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: If a run goes to one way, and if you
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: see your backside corner, you know, hustling their tails off
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: to create an angle, Like that's when you know the
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: guys are playing free, they're running the football, they're playing together.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: There's a standard, I think, on that side of the
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: ball in terms of being violent, being physical, running to
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the football. You know, Campy says it all the time
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: that God rewards those who run to the ball, and
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: it's true. And the way that they play, it takes
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: care of itself. And so is it always perfect? Is
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: there a ton to continue to coach off of and
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: learn from? Yes, without a doubt.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: That was about the Jaguars' run defense.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: But let me say this to you. Here's what running
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: the ball does for your football team. It absolutely adds toughness, physicality.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Everybody on the team benefits from that. It allows you
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: to win games when you have to in four minutes,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: short yardage, goal line. When you have a good running attack,
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: all those are the residue from it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Another thing, too, is that it creates– like what Duff's
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: talking about, how it affects both sides of the ball,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: it creates that energy throughout the team. And then when
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you have physical runs, it also gives you that juice. Oh, gosh.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: You talk about Chris Rodriguez, who got in the game
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: this week, too, and he converted both of his third
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and short. He got a touchdown. Talk about what he
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: does to this running offense when he comes in after
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: a defense is tired of chasing Rachel Tootin.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is that he brings a
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: physicality that, again, creates that energy. You know, when backs
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: end up trucking guys, and I think it was Basial
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that trucked the safety up the middle last week, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: it was one of the most violent. Was that Basial
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: or was that Chris?
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Oh, it was Rodriguez, I think. I think it was Rodriguez.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: It was C-Rod. Yeah, wow. And you truck a safety
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: like that, and everybody sees it on the sideline, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: No, you got everybody high-fiving, and it's an electric play
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: in its own right. So, I mean, again, like Jeff's saying,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: you talk about an impetus or a spark that it
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: gives your team, big time.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Well, think about this also. The Jaguars were 8 of
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: 12 on third down. And we're talking about success rate, right?
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: That's staying ahead of the chains, which allowed them to
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: get into the red zone five times and then in
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the red zone scored touchdowns all five times. I can't
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: recall the last time a Jaguars offense scored five red
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: zone touchdowns in five red zone opportunities. And the running game, again,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Trevor was spectacular, but the running game allowed him to
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: play his best.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not even close. And, I mean, talk about you
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: mentioned the red zone. You said five trips, five for
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: five on offense, 0 for 3 in terms of New
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: England against our defense.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Red zone at its finest. Unbelievable.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: And one other thing I'll say on the run game,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: there was a quarterback sweep that Lawrence had in terms
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: of down in the red zone and the block by
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: Anton Harrison on the On Christian Gonzalez in the open.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Field, slobber knocker.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: That was on the kneel down.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, on the kneel down. But what a flipping block.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, that thing will be on the highlights for
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: me forever.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Great play.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of shades of Anton last year
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: getting out front.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Oh, golly.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You know, running down the field and getting blocks. It
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: was good to see.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Taking their best player, boom.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: And that was against Christian Gonzalez, which was, you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: nice to see. But when Trevor took the knee there,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, what is he doing?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Why did he take a knee?
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Well, he was being a team player, and he was
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: going to let Basial score.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: That's kind of what I said in the broadcast. Maybe
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: he wanted to let Basial score.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: He's a team firster.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I had a flashback to Maurice Jones-Drew in New York
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: in 2009, but there was only a minute 48 left
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: when he took the handoff to the one-yard line and
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: took a knee, and I went, uh.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: That was like eight minutes.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little over eight minutes. It is
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: what it is.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: That's all right. If that's the worst thing he did,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: we'll take it every day.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: How many hands will it take to block? Just to
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: finish with this Dexter Lawrence, because it's the story of
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: the year so far for those folks up in Cincinnati
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: because their defense was so bad last year, and it's
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: so much different this year. Hainsey and Pregnant? Hainsey and Cleveland?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: If Hainsey has to block them one-on-one, we ain't going
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to win.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Can anybody block him one-on-one?
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: I don't think they can. Right now, Hamilton's– getting that
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: same attention too. You can't block him by himself right now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: So that's what you want when you're on defense, guys
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: like that that can not only plug a gap, but
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: take up blockers and get off and make plays.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I think one of the things that you mentioned, Pregnon,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I am absolutely looking forward to that matchup. And do
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I expect Pregnon to be able to block him by
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: himself like Pregnon normally blocks people? No.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: No.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: No, but I want to see it. I mean, you
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: talk about a popcorn matchup. I mean, that's, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: let's see it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I think he's had, this is a
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: good thing. He had Allen from Denver, a great interior
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: player to a guy that could affect the quarterback and
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: the run game.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And he did pretty well last week.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: He did pretty good.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: He did good last week.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: That's right. Against a good defensive line.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: By the way, a team leading, a league leading scoring
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: defense last week, a Super Bowl team that we put
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: 31 or 35, whatever we put on them. So Yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is a good experience. You want him
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: to play against the best, and he's getting that early.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Look at it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I expect two guys on him, and it doesn't have
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to be the entire play, but at least a start.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And what they call that duo, double team, duo, whatever
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you want to call it. So you ask the question
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: number of hands. Four, at the very least three. Which
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: means you at least get a little help, you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: with blocking him. And he's 6'5, and I think they
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: list him at 350 pounds. Sounds like maybe you doubt.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: The accuracy of that number.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I think he's probably a little bigger than that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's definitely 6'5. But he moves.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he can move. That you can verify.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: But probably, and he's not like that guy in Tampa.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He's not like Vita. Vita's like, you know, Dexter's just
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: big across the whole area.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: All right. Good matchup.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Good matchup.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: The bottom of the hour here on Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: We'll take a break. Come back much more ahead with
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  Speaker 3: much of the same. Limited participation for LaQuint Allen, for
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Christian Braswell, for Monteric Brown, Devon Hamilton, Jacoby Myers, Albert Regis,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Colvin Landon. All those guys were somewhat limited in practice today.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Jarrion Jones listed as full participation. One addition, and that
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: is Nate Borkature. The tight end did not practice today
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: with an illness. And looking at the Cincinnati Bengals, they've
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: got a lot of did not participates. For the second
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: straight day, safety Kyle Duggar, defensive tackle B.J. Hill, offensive
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• 30:01
  Speaker 5: You know, B.J.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: Hill, another guy to be reckoned with inside in the D-line,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: a great player for us. When I was there, I
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: know he's fighting it. I think he's coming back from
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: maybe some killies possibility, but we want to watch that
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: one closely.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: All right, so let me ask you a question. How
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: do the Jaguars make Joe Burrow earn every yard he gets?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: The guy is terrific against the Blitz.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Get after them. Look, I think the Jaguars will do
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: a pretty good job on Chase Brown. I just believe
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: that's just their mindset is going to play winning run defense,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and you want the pass rush to be better than
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: what it's been. There is a weakness with the Bengals,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and it's twofold. They have some problems with guys up front,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and also the quarterback doesn't trust them. And you can
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: see at times that Joe actually leaves the pocket when
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: he shouldn't. because he doesn't trust those guys up front.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And the reality is they haven't really done anything to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: earn that level of trust. I think it was against
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. The left tackle, Orlando Brown, just got,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, smoked. Smoked. And Joe's, I mean, literally just
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: hit his back foot on the drop and gets just
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: absolutely hammered. I mean, and if you're a quarterback– and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: you get hit that quick on a drop back, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I'm talking shotgun and you're back there at eight yards,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and you get hit that quick where you haven't even
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: had a chance to even really see anything, I can
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: understand why he doesn't have a lot of confidence in
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: those guys.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Well, and let me tell you this.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: My nickname for him is Butkus because he is tough
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: as nails, and the toughness is displayed because he gets
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: hit over his career as far as that's concerned. So, again,
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: the protection– from the Bengals is going to have to
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: be paramount, or we're going to have the ability to
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: disrupt things for him.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Those two offensive tackles are each 6'8, 350 pounds, but
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: you're saying the left tackle is unreliable right now. I've
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: heard that the right tackle is playing his best football,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Amarius Mims.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Mims is a good football player.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow. What an athlete.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Duff, you've been around him a little bit. But, I mean,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: just watching the film, I mean, I don't know if
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I've seen a better right tackle on film yet this year.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Well, Jeff, the statistics will back that up. I mean,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: against last week a pretty good pass-rushing team with Hightower
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: and Watts last week from Pittsburgh, I mean, Mims was
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: up against Watts the whole ballgame in zero pressures. I
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: think in 45 pass attempts he gave up one pressure.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's playing his best ball right now.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: At right tackle.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: And probably you just evaluated the best in the league.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Can they get there with four? Because the Jaguars haven't
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: been that effective.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, no. Well, I mean, at times you have to.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that that's something that you can
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: just sit there and say, you know what, we're just
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: going to bring four and we're going to be fine
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: all day long. You've got to be able to bring
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a fiver and a sixer at times, and you just
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: don't want to do it as much this week because
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you've got two really good wide receivers, and if you
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: do that, then you're going to deplete the back end
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and take one guy away in coverage off of that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: And let me just add to that, Joe, first of all,
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: was on fire in the game last week against Pittsburgh.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: You told me earlier today you thought maybe that was
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: as good as he's played.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I've seen numerous great games by him, but I'm not
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: sure I saw one any better. Seventy-five percent completion, three touchdowns– 123%
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: passer rating, very, very high pro football focus game. I mean,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: he was hot. Completed his first 14 passes in the game,
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: was 18 of 21 at the half. I mean, the
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: guy was on fire. And, you know, he's quick to
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: get rid of that ball and decisive where he's going
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: right now. So it's going to take every bit of
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: our execution, pressure, everything we can to disrupt this guy.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: He's got the highest completion percentage. In NFL history.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: All time.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: About 69%. 68-5, something like that. All time.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Against the Jags, it's 84. He's completed 63 of 75.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Lifetime passes and three starts against this franchise.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Well, and you just, Benito, said how good he is
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: against pressure. I mean, he's over, I think maybe over 70%
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: against pressure. But, I mean, very, very high. I mean, again,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: we're going to have to mix it up right now.
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: He's seen a lot now. It's going to take our
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: best right now to muddy it up for him.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Jaguars right now are giving up 8.8 yards per pass attempt.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: They have given up a lot of explosives in the
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: past game. Now, the flip side of that is that
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: they've only given up three touchdowns. They've only given up
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: 12 points a game. So what they're doing is getting
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: negative plays and takeaways to negate it. But at some point,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you've got to get to the quarterback because that explosive rate,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's 10.3% that they are giving up explosives
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: at of all plays, and that's way too high.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the explosives rear their head against Denver. I mean,
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: last week we cut them right back down to half,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: and that's going to be critical. And this offense, though,
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: that Cincinnati employs lives on explosives because the ability that
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: Joe has either to extend with his legs or extend
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: throwing the ball.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a gummy challenge. And if you look at
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the areas of our football team where you go, you
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: know what, we really need to focus on this to
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: be better. Pass rush is right at the top. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: against a guy that has the numbers that Joe does
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and how important he is to the team. And on
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: top of that, the mindset of Zach Taylor, their head coach,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: this is a quarterback driven offense. It's not It's not
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: a balanced offense like Liam Cohen has or like other
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: teams want to achieve. It's just in that Taylor DNA.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: We had a Taylor here. It was in his DNA.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And it's in the DNA of the Taylor up in Cincinnati.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: From Norman, Oklahoma, all the way.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: They want to throw the football. And look, I respect
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Chase Brown. But you got to find a way to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: get Joe Burrow off the spot. We got to have
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Some better production out of Josh Hines-Allen and Trayvon. I
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: thought last week they were pretty quiet. Eric Armstead, I thought,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: did a little bit better. But he's got to take
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: it to another level, too. I thought Ruka Roro played
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a very strong game. Devon Hamilton played a strong game.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: The rookie, Brian Thomas Jr., played well.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: And you're going to need all those guys, and maybe more.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: You're going to need everybody against Joe. Everybody against Joe.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: What is he averaging as far as, like, give people
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: an idea. So he's got– to give people an idea,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: he's got 103 attempts, so he's got basically 22 more
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: passing attempts than Trevor Lawrence. Same record. That gives you
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: an indication. That gives you an idea of what they
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: like to do.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Throw the ball. Any other receivers?
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike Jacecki.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: Jacecki is a very reliable and Joe's confident with him
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: and likes him.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: There's a good connection between him. As we mentioned, Chase.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Brown's been, it's really been it's been Jamar Chase, it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: been Higgins, it's been Jacecki, and then probably Brown in
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: that order in terms of receivers. So that's where they're
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: going to work. Now, they've had another player, DeHante Myers,
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: who's kind of jumped in as their number three receiver,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: and he'll probably take over.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: He's not very good.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: No, but he, well, he's, I'm not going to say that,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: but he's, he's, he's, those other two are elite. Okay, no,
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: those other two are elite, but, you know, Joe's going to,
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: you know, major with those guys, that's for sure. I'll
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: tell you what, he made, They had two fourth-down conversions
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: in that game against Pittsburgh, both.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Of them four and two.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: One of them he has an outstanding throw to Jamar Chase,
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: which leads to a field goal, and then he throws
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: another strike to Giusecchi that became a touchdown when they
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: were behind. That's the focus you've got on Burrow because
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: he can do it all down in distances, and they're
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: not afraid on fourth and two to air it out.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Who's responsible for the late-game fumble by Burrow?
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: That was the right guard, I think, had an issue
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: in protection, Reisner, who's injured right now.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Now, the Bengal players and both of those two young men,
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: Tanner Hudson and all the tight ends, are two trustworthy guys.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: They swore they got the ball, but the officials called.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: It another way.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: Ten-point swing in special teams with a muff punt and
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: also the roughing the punter. So that's going to be
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: an area of focus too now. We've got to win
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: the special teams battles.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Do you mind if I ask you this? I'm sorry.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I'll duck when I ask it. Any chance Eric Armstead
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: shows up this week?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I thought he was better last week. And, again, I
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: think that he still got– let's say the first two
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: weeks were like a– I think didn't even register on
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the Richter scale. I mean, it was like you didn't
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: even feel the rumble. No. And then this past game
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, I noticed him. But there's a level
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that he was showing in preseason that was like, A
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: shining neon sign.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: If he's playing that level.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Look at my level of play.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Oh, gosh, and we need that, too, because, again, he
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: can affect.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Which Trayvon and Josh can do with that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll tell you.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: Jeff mentioned a row, row, row. I mean, Jaisal Pete,
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: he showed up now. He had about six tackles and
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: a sack in the game. So I think he's ascending
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: right now. We need those two guys, a row, row, row,
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: and Eric to show up right now in this game
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: in particular.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: You've learned how to say that name.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know about that, but I've been row, row,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: row your boat. I know that, but I don't know.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, you've said it about seven times because it's
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: like you're proud of it. Like, I got this one.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Again well i'm trying to demonstrate that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Yes fantastic let's take a break.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Can you just say a row cubed i'm just gonna
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: say that's.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: More confusing how about just rook there's no other rooks
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: right yeah by the way um very athletic player um
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: and people a lot of people.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Don't know this just a little refresher the jaguars traded
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: mason smith their second-round pick from a few years ago
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: for the Atlanta Falcons' second-round pick, Ruka Rororo, and it's
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: paying dividend. Big time. I think that Rororo is a
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: better player than Mason Smith.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: And you saw that against the Patriots.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: That's a win.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: For sure. That is a win.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Take a win.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Chalk it up.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: But Mason Smith never had a game like Rook had
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: against the Patriots. Patriots. And I like Mason. Listen to him.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Good guy. Yeah. Okay. Like him and Cam Little, like
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: best friends, which is kind of funny. It's like Mutt
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and Jeff. Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: One of the biggest guys on the team with the kicker.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: But this is a production business, and we're seeing the
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: production out of Rook.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Let's take a break. When we come back, we're going
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: to talk about players to watch. And this little hint,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: they're cornerbacks. We're back after this on Jags Happy Hour.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Don't forget Tony Buscelli
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: and James Gladstone wander in here for Jags HQ. But first,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: we've got some players to watch brought to you by Mr.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after the game, and on
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Loggie's ride home so he can have some before the game.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Halftime was good again. We had... You're happy with it.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I had.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I did the whole circuit. I did the Carolina... barbecue sauce, wings,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I did the regular wings, and I did the cheeseburger
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: once again.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Touched all the bases.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Amen. Mr.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Chubby's is getting the value of their sponsorship from you alone.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: My friend. I can tell you this, and we're starting
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: to get visitors now. You know, I mean, remember how
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: you used to sneak in there? You haven't been in
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: there yet this year. Where have you been?
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Well, I haven't gotten an invitation.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Well, consider this an invitation for all home games.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Thank you, sir.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Come and see us. We're having people start to creep
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: in now.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: We'll expect a plate brought with you when you come
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: over here. That door will be locked for the postgame show.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: All right, time for players to watch. And this just in,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Jarrion Jones, Monteric Brown, Travis Hunter. Because the last time
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars faced Jamar Chase, and you remember this well,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: 14 catches, 159 or 169 yards, and a touchdown. He
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: has 313 yards and 25 catches and two touchdowns in
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: his last two meetings with his football team. They could
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: do nothing. Are they better at cornerback this year?
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: At cornerback?
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: To the guys who are going to line up against
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And I believe that this last game was a significant
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: step with Travis Hunter. And the reality is, I will
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: in just a second, but the reality is about Jamar Chase.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: He's going to get his, and you're not going to
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: stop it, okay? Just accept the fact that he's going
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: to have eight or nine catches, maybe ten, but you
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: just got to minimize the damage of those catches. Because
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I think if you take the mindset that we've got
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: to shut him down, it's like a hopeless cause, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you gain no confidence from it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: You're 100% correct because I haven't seen anybody do it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: And so that's where we have to not panic.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Understand that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, we give him– we still contest every play,
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: but he's– against everybody he's been able to make plays
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: and make catches. So, again, understand that's going to happen.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Try to shut him down, but don't panic. Don't lose your–
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: don't flinch. Continue to play.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the fun thing this week to me is
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that how are you going to match up?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: You know, the Jaguars do a pretty good job of
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: mixing man and zone, and I kind of expect them
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: to do the same thing. And I think you've got
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: two guys that are playing man pretty well, Jarrion, which,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: by the way, he had the pick on man. And
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: then Travis, he had his pick on man. I think
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: those are your two better man cover corners. I think
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Monteric's more of a zone guy. And, you know, if
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: you match up, are you going to match? You know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: are you going to travel a corner? Will you take
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Travis and say– hey, look, we're going to put them
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: on T, or will we put them on Jamar? I mean,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that, but I think
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: that's going to be one of the more anticipated things
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of watching it from a game plan standpoint. How are
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: they going to do that?
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: For sure.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: What would you do, Duff? If you had this defensive group, personnel-wise,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: and if you played man, would you travel? Would you
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: travel guys, or would you just play left and right?
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: I think I'd probably play left and right, to be
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: honest with you. You know, I think sometimes when you
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: travel guys, you tell them so much on the other
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: side of the ball, and I think you give them
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: more options to go after you as far as that's concerned.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: So I probably would probably go left and right, but
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: I just know that Chase and Jamar and T are
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: giving Anthony some issues.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: All right, so if you had to match, okay, if
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you had to match, how would you match our corners
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: against Jamar Chase and T Higgins?
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Well, I'd put T Hunter on Jamar Chase. At Travis,
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: I'd put him on Jamar Chase. That's where I'd go
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: as far as that's concerned. And then I probably would
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: go with Jarrion on Higgins if I was doing that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: All right, so here's another way to ask that. Okay,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: let's say you had the option of putting Travis on
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: one guy and you're going to double the other guy.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: What would you do then?
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: Then I probably would put Hunter on Higgins, for example,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: and I'd double Jamar.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Double Jamar.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Because that's the Bill Belichick mindset. Yeah. A lot of
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: people thought, okay, you take your best guy, put it
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: against their best guy to negate their strength. Belichick kind
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: of did the opposite, and he would take his best guy,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: put it on their second best guy, and then double
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: their best receiver.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: And by the way, I mean, they're both special.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: T has the uncanny knack to go up and get
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: balls when you don't think he can.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: He can't at 6'5? What can't he get?
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Let me say this.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: He had a scholarship to play at Louisville in basketball.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: And I've seen him play basketball.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Like legit? Legit.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: And he is legit. I mean, he could do it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: What's he run speed-wise? Is he fast?
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: He's fast.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, he plays fast.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: No, he's fast.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Who did he.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Catch the 41-yard touchdown on last year? Do you recall?
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Was that Monteric?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: I can't remember. He's fast. But let me say this
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: to you. Maybe I mentioned, maybe I didn't.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: Jamar Chase... Burst when he catches that ball makes him special. And, again,
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: it's rare that the first tackler ever comes close to
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: tack on him. I mean, I've watched it for four
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: or five years, time after time. So he presents issues.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: That's why I would double him and I'd single our
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: best guy, put T. Travis on T. Higgins, if given
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: the chance.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Coach was talking about– On Wednesday. They're going to get it.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: It's about can you forget and move on to the
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: next play.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Well, you're going to have to.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're going to have to because, again, they've
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: done it on everybody. I mean, that doesn't mean we
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: accept it. Hell no, but we can't get out of sorts.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: Stay focused. Do your job.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Minimize the damage.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Tackle well.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Amen.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: And then you live to play another play.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Yep. Fair to say to beat Joe Burrow in Cincinnati
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: this weekend, you're going to have to put up 30 points?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Well, not necessarily. because I think turnovers, takeaways have a
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: lot to do with that. And I'm a big believer
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: that if there was a game to win the turnover battle,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: this is it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Good call.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Because of a matchup?
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Just because it's a good football team that's got the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: ability to score points. And the way that you take
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: away points in that situation is– You know, a couple drives.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, because reality is, again, they're going to get
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: their plates. But all of a sudden, if you have
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: like a 6-7 plate drive and you can't stop them,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, bam, you have a takeaway.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: It ends that drive. They don't have any points. And
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden now you get, you know, T.O.P.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: time of possession, what you're talking about, you know, but
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: not necessarily running the ball the whole time, but just
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: owning the clock because you have the ball.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: You know how football guys talk about turnovers coming in bunches.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, sure.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I believe that to a point. But I think it's
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: in this team's DNA right now. You realize they're getting
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: 1.85 turnovers per game going back 20 games to when
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Anthony Campanile took over here. In 2024, it was. 53.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: They're more than three times more effective at getting the
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: ball away. And, Jeff, it's just game after game after game.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: They come up with interceptions, forced fumbles, and fumble recovered.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: No, they believe in it. They know that's a key
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: component to winning games. Their players believe it. The coaches
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: not only preach it, they drill it like crazy. It's
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: a habit right now. It's winning habits. You can't get
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: them unless you try, and they're trying.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: The thing that I think that is pretty cool, First
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: of all, the offense has done a really good job
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: protecting the ball. Okay. Knocking on wood right there. But
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of times when you see a team that
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: is really good at taking the ball away, a lot
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: of times there is a, they're not as good at tackling.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of missed tackles involved because people are
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: going for the ball. And you don't have that. And
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: so it's, you know, as much as you like to
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: compliment Campanelli as, hey, look, they're getting takeaways and all
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: that too. I think also there's, you're getting takeaways without
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: the missed tackles, and you're getting the takeaways without a
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: lot of pass rush.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, so those two things are pretty unique.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Jaguars, number one, I'm sorry, number two in red zone
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: defense to go with their number two red zone offense.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: It's all kind of coming together.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. Number two in takeaways. I think number two
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: in turnover margin.
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: So there's a lot of number twos right now that
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: we want to continue to elevate to one.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I should respond to that.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: No, look, all I know is this.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I jumped in that one.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Keep it rolling. Yeah. Keep it rolling.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: We've got to win field position, too, now, in terms
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: of the special teams. That's going to be a factor
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: in this game, too, I believe.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a beautiful day on Sunday. There
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: had been a chance of rain. What's the weather? 73,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: 74 and sunny.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: The leaves should be changing up there by now, so
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: it should be pretty.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: The chance of rain is starting to.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Starting to. Yep, starting to.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati can be a fun place to go when you
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: play well.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: By the way, you don't like to lose that organization.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It's like one of the cheapest organizations in the NFL.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: You're not telling him anything.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: No, but I will share it to you. I enjoyed
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: the opportunity.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: And that'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. Duff, get out.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: HQ is next.