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Episode 2: Preseason Panic Meter: Who's Rising, Who's Falling · The Crazy Sheet - CFB Handicapping

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls, it is your favorite
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  Speaker 1: time of week. We had done this in a while.
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  Speaker 2: Brother, Get you something cold to drink, maybe a coffee,
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  Speaker 2: Take you a walk into the gym.
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  Speaker 1: We've put you some crazy sheet on all that. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get ready to talk to some college football.
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  Speaker 2: I market ouver here at the college football podcasting studio
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  Speaker 2: is at home, brother, are you man?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, just excited to get back rolling. Man. I
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: have been on a worldwide tour for about to last
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  Speaker 3: what feels like forever, but it's really been a kind
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  Speaker 3: of a six week process. Little Scotland golf that was
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  Speaker 3: a really really fun trip. I went to the Caymans
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  Speaker 3: with the family, So, man, I've been all over, most
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  Speaker 3: of it has not been in the US, so it
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. Scotland was a bucket list deal,
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  Speaker 3: really fun trip. I do not love links golf, so
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  Speaker 3: that was quite the challenge. But uh, and I think
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  Speaker 3: part I know now why I don't like links golf.
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  Speaker 2: I loved.
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  Speaker 3: My strength of my game is chipping and one hundred
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  Speaker 3: yards sixty yards, one hundred and twenty yards. Man, it
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  Speaker 3: is really hard to click clip it clean every time
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  Speaker 3: off those tight ass lies and when you spray your driver,
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  Speaker 3: the gorsh is not your friend. So it was but
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  Speaker 3: it was fun. I played a couple of good rounds,
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  Speaker 3: played terrible. The last round I was actually played, the
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  Speaker 3: last nine holes I played was terrible. I think my
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  Speaker 3: body was just given out as an old man. I
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  Speaker 3: was done and that course was there to be had
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  Speaker 3: because it was the easiest course. We played, too, so
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  Speaker 3: it was interesting. Played some really cool spots. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe Turnberry is not in the open rotation
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  Speaker 3: because of Trump. That's the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: The best course over there, it's incredible. I saw Branda
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  Speaker 3: Chamblie posted that a couple of days ago. He played
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  Speaker 3: it obviously this week and it's just incredibly. That course
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  Speaker 3: is incredible, tree that it's beautiful. I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: the best looking course of any that I played. And
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  Speaker 3: I played a bunch of open courses, so it's it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed Mierfield.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's different. It's the stuffiest of the places.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a couple of good caddy stories. I said,
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  Speaker 3: I started playing bad, and you know, you've always shared
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  Speaker 3: with me the story about Whiteley, about the about the caddy, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and I shared that story a couple of times. So
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  Speaker 3: the caddies, I'll bet on the guys. They're caddying for
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  Speaker 3: the whole round. And I figured that out about day two,
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  Speaker 3: that they're gambling on you and so. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I played well enough. I made some birdies. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the guy had to My guys had to have done okay.
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  Speaker 3: But man, the last day I crushed it on the
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  Speaker 3: front nine, just played really good, made a couple of birdies.
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  Speaker 3: I got to the back nine and I just I
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  Speaker 3: was done. I was sculling wedges. If I had a
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  Speaker 3: good t ball, I was gonna scull of edge, and
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  Speaker 3: if I didn't, I was going to be lost ball.
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  Speaker 3: And we're walking up the fairway on it. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's fifteen. I think it was fifteen. It was right
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  Speaker 3: before the signature hole, which is seventeen, I think so. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was fifteen or sixteen, and we were playing Presstwick
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  Speaker 3: and I walk up and the caddy goes, Laddie, you
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  Speaker 3: realize you're killing me, right. I was like, we had
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  Speaker 3: to want some money in the first half. Heues, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I really need you to take your head out
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  Speaker 3: of your ass. It was fabulous. I mean, it's just
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: a fabulous quote. I started laughing because I was awful,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and he probably thought, man, I am money
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  Speaker 3: after this, I'm about to crush these guys. And in
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  Speaker 3: the midst of this, the best golfer in the group
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  Speaker 3: goes on a four out of five hole birdie stretch
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  Speaker 3: and he missed a six footer for five straight birdies.
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  Speaker 3: So he played really well as I'm just absolutely tanking.
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  Speaker 3: So it was it was pretty fun, but good. We
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  Speaker 3: had a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's fantastic, and I'm glad to hear that.
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  Speaker 3: Well. I got to my.
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  Speaker 2: Kids got to go to Omaha this year to go
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  Speaker 2: see the College World Series. Nice, yeah, both of them, Doug.
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  Speaker 2: That is college age girls to go party up there
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  Speaker 2: and get to witness the Natty. Just got back from
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  Speaker 2: Vegas for five days, signed up for another year of
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  Speaker 2: Circa Millions, and as you know, little news splash for
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  Speaker 2: those of you that listen, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: And I are going to play in the Westgate Super
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  Speaker 1: Book College Contest this year.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't heard about it yet, the Westgate having
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  Speaker 2: a college contest seven games each week against the spread.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to put our picks on the podcast. We're
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  Speaker 2: actually going to put up a little Patreon page too,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll try to put up our podcast and maybe
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  Speaker 2: even have some write up week to week.
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  Speaker 1: Five hundred dollars to enter, and they're estimating they think
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  Speaker 1: they could get.
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  Speaker 2: You know, about four thousand people signed up for it,
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  Speaker 2: three four thousands with their estimating, so which would be fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: That's a one point five million dollar pot. I am
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  Speaker 2: sure you and I could take home some of that
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  Speaker 2: the fucking money, Scotty.
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  Speaker 1: I know we can do it.
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  Speaker 3: I know we can do it. I feel good about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited. I mean, look, we all perform a lot
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  Speaker 3: of these big guys anyway, so we got to have
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  Speaker 3: a chance because you know they're all going to be
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  Speaker 3: in at the Brad Powers and Phil Steels and you
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  Speaker 3: know the guy from ESPN Stanford Steve, all those guys
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  Speaker 3: are going to be in it.
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  Speaker 2: So I look forward to it, look forward to Westgate's
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  Speaker 2: a great sportsbook. Not a place you want to stay, well,
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  Speaker 2: and you stay't where you want to Vegas, but not
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  Speaker 2: my favorite place to stay. I've fallen in love with Circuit.
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  Speaker 2: The grittiness of downtown uh and to just enjoy the
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  Speaker 2: hell out of it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so as we're getting ready for college football season,
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  Speaker 1: it's got it. We are under.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty days away before we get to week one. Week
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  Speaker 2: zero actually has four or five games, a couple of
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  Speaker 2: good games.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got there.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to Stanford Trees headed to the Island to
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  Speaker 2: play the Flying Timmy Jenks, and I'm kind of excited
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  Speaker 2: about that one. Marty got a little in pocket bet
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  Speaker 2: on the on the Timmy Changs to win this one here.
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  Speaker 2: So I think Stanford is gonna be a dumpster fire
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  Speaker 2: after firing their coach and Andrew Luck stepping in and
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  Speaker 2: bringing over Frank Reich and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I like what we saw from Hawaii a little
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  Speaker 1: bit last.
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  Speaker 3: Year, so I wouldn't have toe dip in already once
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  Speaker 3: I got out there in Vegas and maybe a wager
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  Speaker 3: I like it. There are some good games the week
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  Speaker 3: the week zero week, so that obviously makes it more
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  Speaker 3: fun when there's some decent games That first week is
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: actually I'd say the first two weeks is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: fascinating because there's some great non conference games. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the it just looks like it's gonna be a really
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  Speaker 3: good slate. I'm fascinated to see some of the teams
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  Speaker 3: play Texas Tech. To me is it's just absolutely fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: They have changed that roster so much. As you look
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  Speaker 3: at it, I think technically the number two portal team
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  Speaker 3: behind LSU, and and I think you and I are
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: both on the same page about LSU, so I won't
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  Speaker 3: spend a lot of time talking about that text fascinating
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  Speaker 3: to me because they weren't that far away last year.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was a pretty good football team. But
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  Speaker 3: I have real questions of can this staff get over
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  Speaker 3: the hump? It is this staff good enough to be
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  Speaker 3: a ten or eleven win football team, because candidly, this
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  Speaker 3: team may be good enough to do that, especially because
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  Speaker 3: the thing that's fascinating about the Big twelve, this is
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  Speaker 3: a fun league. It's always been fun because they you know,
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  Speaker 3: they kind of ripper them, and now they've added some
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  Speaker 3: of these Pac twelve teams. It's a really fun league.
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  Speaker 3: The styles are all over the map. There's a couple
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  Speaker 3: of really physical teams in there, you know, the Byus,
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  Speaker 3: the Utahs are different. But then you got Arizona State, Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma State's always flung it around the yard. You look
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  Speaker 3: at these over underwin totals and they're all bunched really
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  Speaker 3: closely together. There's a couple of guys, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: Baylors and guys like that, at the eight and a
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  Speaker 3: half nine, nine and a half wins, and everybody else
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  Speaker 3: is basically at five and a half to six and
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  Speaker 3: a half seven, and there's it is a fascinating league.
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  Speaker 3: The leagues like this. There's always somebody who jumps always
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  Speaker 3: and is that team Kansas State, who I think is
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  Speaker 3: gonna be really good with their quarterback coming back, but
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  Speaker 3: they've got some question marks. You know, is that team
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  Speaker 3: because I love Climb and I think he's such a
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  Speaker 3: good such a good coach. Is it Texas Tech? Is
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  Speaker 3: it Baylor? There's some teams that have really got that
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  Speaker 3: chance to step forward. You know, Sawry Robertson, a guy
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  Speaker 3: started under Mike Leach, has really turned out to be
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  Speaker 3: a good quarterback. It's his third year leading that football
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  Speaker 3: team after transferring over. So you know, you get a
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  Speaker 3: returning quarterback like that, and you get some stability in
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  Speaker 3: a coaching staff, and you got it. Those are the
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  Speaker 3: teams a lot of times that step up, and so
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting to see what Baylor's like. So,
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  Speaker 3: but Tech is the enigma of me. They're the they
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  Speaker 3: are the team that's got the widest gap. I could
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  Speaker 3: see that team going seven and five and the coaching
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  Speaker 3: staff getting fired, and I can see that team going
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  Speaker 3: to ten and two, you know, and being a playoff team.
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  Speaker 3: Them being the Arizona State of this year. I mean
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  Speaker 3: they're not obviously, they're not rover on the win totals,
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  Speaker 3: not three, because I think that's what Arizona States was
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  Speaker 3: last year. The hell, they were picked fourteenth in the
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  Speaker 3: league last year. So and then they end up making
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  Speaker 3: the playoff Europe nose their away from the semi finals.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, it's a this is gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: fascinating year. I've talked about Alabama and uh that I
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  Speaker 3: that I really think that this could be the year
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  Speaker 3: they stepped forward. I think this is a huge improvement
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  Speaker 3: at the quarterback spot, because people forget this is a
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  Speaker 3: five star quarterback. It's a coach's kid that's been sitting
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  Speaker 3: on the bench for three years. And there's a reason
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: he hadn't left all the coaches always want him to stay,
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: and you know, Saving did everything he could do to
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: not get him to transfer when he lost that job,
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: and so there's a reason people keep wanting this guy around.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's a much better fit at the quarterback
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  Speaker 3: spot for the Bower. I think that team may take
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  Speaker 3: a big jump forward because where they were bad was
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  Speaker 3: on offense because candidly, they couldn't run the Bower's offense.
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't stretch the field and do so. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that's going to be the case. And look, this
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  Speaker 3: kid's really athletic too. You can't forget this kick and run. Now,
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: he's not Jalen Milroe, but his ass is pretty more
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  Speaker 3: of a Jackson dardish ability running and that guy could
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  Speaker 3: change the game with his legs, So you get that
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  Speaker 3: along with a guy who could read the defense, studies,
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  Speaker 3: hard worker, can throw the football man. I think this
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  Speaker 3: sets up good for the Crimson Tide. But in that
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  Speaker 3: same state, I think Auburn's got the team to bump up.
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  Speaker 3: They addressed some needs. They've signed some really good young
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: offensive wide receivers that I think some of those guys
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  Speaker 3: are going to take a step forward this year. They're
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: still young at wide receiver, but they brought in some transfers,
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  Speaker 3: Singleton name from Georgia Tech being the big one. But
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  Speaker 3: that is gonna be That's a fascinating football team because
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  Speaker 3: it's a huge change over what they're doing offensively. I
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  Speaker 3: am fascinated to see how Jackson Arnold bumps in down there.
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  Speaker 3: But if he doesn't work and he's not good enough,
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  Speaker 3: they brought in the transfer from Stanford to so I mean, look,
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  Speaker 3: they get they got multiple quarterbacks now, so it's gonna
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: be interesting to see how long of a leash does
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  Speaker 3: Arnold get. But as talented as he is, it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to believe that guy is not gonna be the quarterback
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  Speaker 3: and not the guy that wins the job. The only
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: way Auburn doesn't I think when nine games something something
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  Speaker 3: like that is if Arnold's not the guy and they
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: have to make a switch at some point during the season,
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: they give him the reins. He just simply isn't getting
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: it done and there's quarterback controversy or whatever. And if
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: that's the case, you Freeze is probably fired. Because I
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: think Alburn fans will be ready to move on.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: I will be there for opening day of the new
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Auburn track because we've got it. We talked about this
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: last year. We said the our olster was good. They
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback. We kind of knew that. We're
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: wondering what they were gonna do. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: If Auburn didn't get it done this year, I think
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  Speaker 2: you freeze is gone or I should. We'll talk about that,
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  Speaker 2: but I will be there for the Baylor Auburn game
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  Speaker 2: on the Friday night in Waco, Texas when they come
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: flying into Flying Saucer that evening to watch, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a time on Auburn as you are. But
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  Speaker 2: one thing I will tell you about the Big Twelve.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: But we're gonna get to it in our Big Twelve preview.
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  Speaker 2: The name you're gonna hear it may not be day one,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: but do not sleep on my man, Devin dan Pire,
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  Speaker 2: the transfer quarterback at Utah coming in here. There's no
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  Speaker 2: way Kyle Whittingham is.
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  Speaker 1: Going to just go out and just a just a bust.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: He's this is gonna be a run, hard, run, fast,
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: hits you.
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  Speaker 1: In the mouth football team this next year. I like
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  Speaker 1: Utah a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot full expect total agreement on that the other thing,
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: and this is a teaser for the SEC preview. Mark
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  Speaker 3: and I are in total agreement on the LSU Tigers too.
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  Speaker 3: We're in total agreement, Obama, and we're in total agreement
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  Speaker 3: on the LSU Tigers. You don't have what I think
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  Speaker 3: is the best pro prospect in this in this college
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  Speaker 3: deal at quarterback and not expect this team to take forward.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, they got the number one
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  Speaker 3: rate to transfer portal class. They got a lot of talent,
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: got Perkins back off of injury. It's exactly right. This
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: is gonna be a talented football team. I think they've
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: upgraded in some of the spots where they were weak.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: Those dbs are going to be improved. I think this
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  Speaker 3: is I think this is a team that's got a
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  Speaker 3: chance to take a real step forward. But guess what
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: they got a They got an opening week game against
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: another team I think is gonna be really good and
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be fascinating. Let me tell you something that
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: I almost want them to lose to Clemson simply because
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: it's just simply because I want to watch them. Melt
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: of them keeping losing non conference games to start the season.
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  Speaker 3: This will be what five in a row, six in
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  Speaker 3: a row, something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, it's too many.
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  Speaker 3: But Kelly's never won one. He's never won one. And
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: I know, I know the last year he lost My man,
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: my man, Eddie Orgeron which speaking of video of Eddie
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: Orseran at the wedding dancing, yes, I mean ripping his
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: shirt off ed Orsron is hilarious. There's also a video
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: running around of that guy getting a piece of Oh.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: It's coach Orge Ron and he takes him and he
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: tells him roll tight and this is Oorseron off and
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: he like gets in his face at the beach. Have
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: you seen that one? He's like, don't do that to me.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: That's offensive. Why would you say something like that to me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, Eddie, Oh, is just he's just going full
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: loose cannon.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I dig it, man. I tell you what I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to do would be to like get Coach.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Oh a cooler pool of sandwiches and Dyke Cokes and
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: do the Thursday Friday Saturday road trip in the.
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  Speaker 1: Car of football, just like catch the.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Thursday night game, a Friday night game, a Saturday LSU game,
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  Speaker 2: and then let him go back to beating himself, just
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: eating sandwiches and listen to him talking.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe. Look, can you imagine getting a motor home starting
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: with midweek maction and rolling all the way through for
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: a week with that ormon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: It would be It'd be so much fun, because there's
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: no way that guy's not awesome. I mean, just to
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: talk to and just listen to because you know, I mean, hell,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: we've heard great stories. Oh think of all the stories
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: he's got that he had put out. I mean, all
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: these coaches have got great stories, and recruiting guys have
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: got the best. I mean, that's the only disappointment about
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: the portal is the great recruiting stories are over.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I heard Jerry Maguire someone he was coming out.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: He was coming through Texas and he was got stuck.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: He pulled over in Lagrange, Texas. Uh this is recently.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: This was this like in the.
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  Speaker 2: Spring or summer. But he pulls over in Lagrange. There's
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: only two spots you can eat at Lagrange. There's like
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: a gas station, there's a shitty taco bell and that's
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: about it. And he's pulling around and his rental car
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: gets stuck in the mud and he can't get out,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: and so he calls one of his assistant coaches and
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: guy like, oh, wait a minute, I know the head
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  Speaker 2: coaching at Lagrange because the real the record won't move
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: his car because it's stuck in the mud and it's
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: a rental car and they don't want to be liable
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: if they screw it up trying to pull it out.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: So he says he calls the guy.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Five minutes later, the head coach, high school football coach
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: from Lagrange shows up. He's got two offensive linemen with him.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: They pull up some toe ropes the yank you know,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: his car out of the mud. He gives them all
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a high five and then gets back on.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: The road and starts driving into Houston to a recruiting visits.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got the old stories about Leech getting
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: stuck at the private airport and you had to jump
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: over the fence so he could I mean, yeah, you
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: could go on for days with those. But yes, let's
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: manifest the Scott and you and I have enough money
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: that we can.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Afford to rent an RV.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: It would be some of the greatest TikTok social media
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: ever of me, you and Eddie O doing a Tuesday
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: to Saturday maction into a night game at Death Valley,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: wrapping it up and just right there on Nicholson just rocking.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: It out with coach O the whole week.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I don't even if I changed clothes, and he may
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: not even wear a shirt even in November, when we're.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: At some point there would be at some point we
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: could we could get him, we could get him out
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: of his out of his get the top, we get
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: him topless, for sure. That would be I just think
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: it'd be hilarious. I mean, it's just absolutely hilarious to
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: go because here's the thing. He's been tons of places
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: and he still loved everywhere he's been absolutely I mean
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: everybody loves a guy, you know, and that that is
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: what's interesting. Look, I always felt like he he was
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: not the greatest head coach, but man, that staff and
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: that team he put together in LSU is one of
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the greatest, if not greatest collections of talent that's ever
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: stepped foot on the football field. I mean the just
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: the wide receivers, man, I mean, Joe Burrow might be
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the best quarterback in the NFL, and Jamar Chase and
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Jefferson are the two best wide receivers in the n
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, and they had a lot of them. Talent
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: everywhere else too. I mean, you know, you got Moss's
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: kid at tight end, you had Edwards Hilaire at running back.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I mean that team was just holy smokes, they were.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: It wasn't nineteen kids got drafted or something like that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, just a just a crazy, crazy collection of talent,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: and it is. It would be a lot of fun
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: with that guy. So yeah, maybe we need to we
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: need to reach out to the coach os people. I
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: have some people that I know from Ole Miss that
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sure are still talking to him. So let me
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: let me begin the process and see at least get
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: him on the show one wet him guest pick in
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: one week.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I like for this, it is heading already. I'm pretty
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: excited about it anyway, So Scott, let's go do something different.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: We talked about this about a month ago. And you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Scott and I are both now have crested.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: At the age of fifty, and we have both been
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: watching college football since the eighties.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: If you're not with the set long or what part
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: of the country.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: You were in, that's back when you still had to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: watch regional football.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Jefferson Pilot would cover the.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Sec JP and you would get Raycom Sports rocking out
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: somebody in the Southwist Conference.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: So much AstroTurf in the Southwest Conference at that time,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: it was just unbelievable and what you had there.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: But so we've seen the ups and downs of college football,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and where we're at now to me is like, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: think as much of a mess as it is off
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the field, and now there's so much media and everybody's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I've been for stories. I think the product on the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: field is as good as it's been in a long time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I think there's parody that has come from the portal.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I think there's parody that's come from the nil. I mean,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: if you don't agree with me, you look at you
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: had Indiana make the playoffs last year. Indiana literally people
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: couldn't have told you that had a football team for
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: most of our lives. And SMU back from the death
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: penalty made the playoffs last year. And if you look
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: at both of these programs going in the next year,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: it's may not being an homaly. These are pretty good
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: programs that they're building there.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I think you might take a step
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: back but could that's we're still there.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They were there right, you know, And so that's where
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'm getting to it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You know, It's it's not just those that there are
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: some programs out there that are historically good programs that
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: are kind of in a spot right now where I
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: think it's, you know, they're in a rock and a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: hard place.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Are they gonna go? Are they gonna keep movie?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yep?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Are they gonna fail again? And go from there? So
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Scott and I have hand picked a couple of these
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Want to roll through them and kind of think where
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: we think these teams are gonna go this year.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, I want to add to that just one thing.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: The flip side of that is the teams that are
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: bad right now. Everybody thinks it's easy to oh, yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: you can go fix it in the portal. Now you
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: really can't unless you've got a huge amount of money.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You've at least got to be competitive. The teams that
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: are bad Mississippi State, for prime example, nobody wants to come.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: You got to go overpay for these guys in the portal,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: or you just got to go sign guys that just
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: aren't as good and hope you can develop them. Man,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I would hate to be a coach who's taking over
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: a team that is three and nine, four and eight,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: two and ten and trying to fix it because I
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: think people don't realize Arizona State wasn't quite as bad
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: as their record was. From a talent's what and Cam's cataboo?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Why with a game changer from Sacramento State two years ago,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: they could build the team around that guy and that
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: let them go get some players last year around him,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: they at least had some signs of life to get
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: some guys. Hey, we're moving in the right direction. So
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: it's a tough time because you got to overpay you
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: these teams that are bad. Let's say the going rate
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: for a kids a half a million dollars, Well, they've
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: got to go in and off for seven point fifty
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to get a kid that other schools are going to
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: get for five for five hundred grand, that Alabama may
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: get for three hundred grand, or ls you may get
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: for three hundred grand. So it is a it is, man,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: it is a crazy time. And the other part is
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: these kids because they play at You look at State,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: they played a lot of young guys and had a
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: lot of guys transferring. You could take this across the map.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: For the bad teams that played a lot of young players,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: they had tons of guys at the portal because these
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: kids want to be paid like they're on an sec starter,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you know, like you're well, just because you're starting a
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: really bad football team doesn't mean you're worth that money.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And a lot of those guys found that out in
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the portal. But you know, like State's freshman quarterback, that
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: kid that was asking for starter money. Now LSU needs
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: a quarterback to develop behind us Meyer, and they've got
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the funds to pay him. You know, I think they
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: paid him high, high six figures if I understand right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: But he was asking for well over a million dollars
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: for Mississippi State. Well, they're crazy to pay that. They're
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: crazy to pay that. So you know, there is so
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: much going on in the portal and the managing money
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: and things like that, it is out of control. There
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: is at least finally starting to be enough talk amongst
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: the schools that we've got to get these guys employee.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I saw rich Rod talking about it this week. I've
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: seen a couple of other athletic directors mention it that
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: has to happen. We have to get these guys under
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: contract where it's an enforceable contract and they're there for
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: two and three years. You can't discipline kids. This is
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: a disaster. But you know, look, this is what happens
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: when a poorly run organization like the NCAA never wants
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: to adapt, never wants to change, and then you get
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: things like this when the market really takes over. So
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: they'll get it fixed. But right now the game's not
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the good spot. But to your point, this is all
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: going back to your point about the game on the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: field being better. Man, especially from an athletic standpoint, seven
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Old seven is a game changer. I mean, you don't
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: realize there's a lot of athletes out there, and there's
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: a lot more kids being developed than there were years ago.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: These seven Old seven tournaments, I mean, man, I mean
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: some of these things that Chase plays in and there's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: dudes out there. I mean there's dudes. And it's not
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: just that, it's there's guys that you're like, man, this
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: kid's pretty good and he's probably not getting looked at
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: by anybody, you know, So that's where you're getting some
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: of these transferred guys at these smaller schools and things
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: like that. I think seven o seven is really helping
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: the athleticism of the dbs, the wide receivers and the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: running backs being in space and things like that. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: think it's all things that weren't going on thirty years ago.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: No, I agree with you and for I said the
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: game is evolving, and I think people that are you
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and I should have gotten to be in the general
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: manager role three years ago with these programs. We should
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: have gotten ahead of that because we knew that was coming.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And just this last week, if you saw the coup
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: that you know, Texas Tech Pool. They've got a high
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: school kid. He's the number one off pensions linemen in
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the state of Texas. This is a tackle and he's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: going to Tech. But if you look at the agreement
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: he signed a three year uh you know, revenue share.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Five point one Yeah, five point one five.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Ones the Maxican make but it actually pairs down to
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: about three something a little bit less than three.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: But it's a three year agreement.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And I think the reason being is is because the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: guys are at Texas Tech, and you can say whatever
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you want to about it, I think they've caught a
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: lot of we're going to talk about this week at
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to the Big Twelve. But you know, Cody Campbell's day
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: has been thrown around. People act like they know what
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: he's doing. He's running like a shrewd businessman. He's like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: we're investing in our program.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: And played college sports, and who played college sports and
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: understands it, understands these guys. And he's young, he's he's
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: not he's not my age, he's not fifty three, he's
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: like forty. Yeah. I mean, it's so the guy gets it,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: he understands it. You throw rocks at him all you want.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I wish we had. I wish the guy was Assissippi
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: State Gray. The only people pissed off about it are
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: guys that are jealous of it. That's I agree that
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: he's doing a phenomenal job. He loves his school, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: he has got a chance to change tech forever.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And not only that, but he's If you go read
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: there's an article I think it was in.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: The USA today or the I can't remember. It just
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: came out earlier this week.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Just google Cody Campbell article and there's a fascinating article
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And he's smart.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: He started a whole new thing where people can get
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: on board trying to make the overall landscape of college
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: or college sports better for the athlete. And so he's
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: not like, hey, I'm just trying to front run Tech.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to make this a better situation for everybody
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to play in, for the kids to play in, for
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: us to donate into. It's like, let's make everything better.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And I think people are not looking into that. But
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, like you said, you look at what he
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: just did with this kid from coming in from Texas Tech.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And he guaranteed him. It's a three year agreement between
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you and me.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Man, we have a contract. It's like university.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You know, after your third year from high school, you
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: can't apply to go to the NFL. And that's great.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: That's kind of a trajectory in this kid. I'm sure
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: thinks he's on, but it's like, why not lock him
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: up in a three year deal. It's like, hey, we're
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: going to commit to you. You commit to us.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get on campus. We're gonna make
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you better.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And the contract is void. It's a you know, it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: a it is such a different deal. He's you're right,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: he is doing a good job. And look, it's not
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: just football. I mean, I know his wife was a
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: softball player.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: But tell it softball.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, okay, so the But either way, he's investing
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: in softball. That's been spread around. He's clearly got to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: be investing in basketball because basketball is so expensive. He's
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: got to be. But here's the other thing too, When
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: a guy like him steps forward, Let's not forget the
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: dick measuring contest that gets in. While he may be
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: the wealthiest of the guys doing it, tax gots some
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: guys with some money too. I mean, there's a lot
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: of West Texas all money out there. Those guys are
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: stepping up too. They don't want him being the only
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: guy that's giving money. They don't. I mean, you look
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: at that football facility. Man, They've got a lot of people,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: including Patrick Mahomes to step up to build that deal. Absolutely,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of good things. Like I said,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I mean this, I wish the guy was Mississippi State grad.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: The only reason you don't like the guy is because
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: you're jealous or you're pissed off he in at your school.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: What he's doing is great for college sports, and it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: certainly great for the athletes, and I think if they'll
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: get out of the way and let that guy really
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: get involved in shape it. You know, people talk about
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: saving being the tzar. I don't know if this guy
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be the bizarre of college football, because I think
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: he understands both ends of it. He understands the need
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: for the discipline and you got to develop a roster.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: He's an offensive lineman man. Nobody understands the grind more
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: than those guys do. And yet he understands that college
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: players were getting the short end of the shape for
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: a long time too.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, no, no, I agree with you, Scott. Let's jump
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: into what we got here. Kind of got a long podcast.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It may stream along for a bit, but I like.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Talking some football and I hope you'll enjoy it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Along the way. Give us some reviews, give us some ratings.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Love to hear from y'all.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Scroll down now on your podcast app, hit a five star,
• 29:35
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• 29:37
  Speaker 2: want to hear some stuff on the show. We're trying
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: to do some more things. We're gonna have a little
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: website this year. We can actually breath the picks and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: working on that now may have some swag in there.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Not putting out too much, but just a if you
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: got some swag ideas, send it to me.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: We got some funny stuff coming.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But Scott, where I want to go is talking about
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: teams I think this year that have to make a
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: move or they're on the precipice of Mason move.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And these are history good franchises for one reason or another.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: A couple of them are.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Actually in the same conference, and so I think it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: gonna be pretty interesting. But where I want to start
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: as a program to me that has just been interesting
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to watch over the.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Last couple of years.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I want to go to Madison, Wisconsin and talk about
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: our Badgers that we got here.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You know, they brought in Luke Fickle.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: This will be Luke Fickle's third year at Wisconsin and
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Fickle when he was at Cincinnati took a team into
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the College Football playoffs, you know, almost made the National
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Championship Game, and he was the big name everybody talked
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: about as a coach that was going to be the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: up and comer to take over another big program. Everybody's like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: where does he want to go? Is you know Cincinnati
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: made it into the big twelves. He leaves to go
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: take this opportunity to head over to the big pen
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: with Wisconsin.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Everybody thinks it's going to be a great fit.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: He brings in Phil Longo as his offensive coordinator.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: It's been a mess at Wisconsin since he's gotten there.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: The roster turned over several times. They're trying to put
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that air raid offense in. He had to fire long
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Goo at the end of last season just because he
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: couldn't get it done. Longo's now the head coach at
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: sam Houston State University. But when you look at this
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin team, you know they brought in Jeff Grimes, who
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: was at Baylor. He's been a couple of different places
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: bysus along the way. He's the new offensive coordinator. They
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: lose all the quarterbacks that they had on the roster.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Kyler Van Dyke's gone, Themtoyer kid that was the freshman's gone, right,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: everybody's gone. They bring in Billy Edwards, who transfers over
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: from Maryland, who's a great athlete.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know what they're gonna do with
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: this roster. But this was constant team. Man. You go
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: back and you look at the last couple of years.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: They have not won a meaningful game since Luke Fickle's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: been there, and I kind of think this is the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: end of the eraror for this Wisconton team. I honestly
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: think this team that went five and seven last year
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that was pretty much non competitive in a lot of games,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and I may piss offs was Cotton fans, but it's real.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I mean the only game that they were remotely competitive
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: in where they had to punch above their weight was
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: when they played Oregon, and you you called that in
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the summer last year because it was such a terrible
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: spot for Oregon to have to travel back out to
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Madison played his game. But this Wisconsin roster is not
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: built to compete in today's Big Ten, and I don't
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: think they're going to And you go look at them now.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I think they're over under win totals. I've seen five
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah right now, it's highly juiced to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the under. I don't think they're gonna get there. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: you can't find a path for me. I mean, they
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: open up with Okay, so yeah, they're gonna Miami of
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Ohio and Middle Yeah they're gonna win both of those.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Then they gotta go to the Miami of Ohio. That
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: could be a total upset.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe you're I mean, but then they got to go
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to Bama. They won't win there, and then they get
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: into Big Ten play and everybody, I mean Maryland maybe
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: at Michigan, No, Iowa was gonna be way better Ohio State, Oregon.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: You dub Indiana, Illinois and Mini give me.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I mean the middle partner scheduled from Michigan to Illinois.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I could tell you any of those teams could make
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a run at the Big Ten championship and possibly get
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: into the tournament. I mean Illinois, I think, so Iowa.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a lot there. I think
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin is going to be a disaster. I don't know
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna be able to faith them fast enough.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: But this is a program that is on the verge
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: of just being forgotten.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: That they what Barry Alvarez did, what Paul Chris did.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, to build this thing up in the trajectory,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: even Burt Man, I mean, you know it's like to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: build this thing up in the trajectory that was I mean, you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Want you want to talk about teams and got a
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: chance to make the playoff. Oh, Burt, Burt, he was
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: on the verge of it last year. It's just a
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: web and he got everybody back.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I agree, So.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: A fickle is. It's fascinating. He's failed at both big
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: ten jobs, he said. I mean, it was a disaster
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: at Ohio State where he played. It is fast turning
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: into a disaster here. The real question for me is
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: does he end up back at Cincinnati. Maybe that's a
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: better amission, much like much like Frost was a better
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: fit at uc if I saw that there are times
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: you don't need to leave jobs. There really are. I mean,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: some guys are cut out for the for the bigger
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: showtime job, and some guys aren't. And you know, candidly,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I think I've said I think you've heard me say
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: this a lot. I think Fickers just probably not a
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: big enough asshole for those jobs. I mean, at the
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: end of the day, the guys that are really successful
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: are argon at these big jobs. They're arrogant. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: two best coach in mississip States had two biggest assholes.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I've ever been to that job too, you know, but
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: they were both really good.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: That's much. That's my first one is Wisconsin.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I think Wisconsin premier program, competed for the Big Ten Championship,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: rose Bold champions played absolutely relevant program in the last
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: twenty years, three years, they have burned that thing to
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the ground. I don't realize for us how hard it
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: is to turn his ship around, because there's lots of
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: programs that we're gonna talk about.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: That and the number two program I want to talk
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: about in the Big Ten. That is a program that
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: has been burned to the ground.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: And I think my man in his third year, Matt Rule,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I think he may have actually turned the ship. At Nebraska.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I think we're there, man, Matt Rule. Last year they
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: went seven and six. He's got a ton of returns.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You go look at what he did in his third
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: year at Temple. That was when the team exploded. You
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: go look at his third year at Baylor, that's when
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the team exploded. He's got back his quarterback, he's got
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: back to gist of that offensive line, he's got back
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: his offensive coordinator and Dana Hologram.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's not a real name, but goes back.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And the reason I think that's a big deal is
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: what he brought him in last year mid season. I
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: remember the phrase in Holgos. He's awesome in press conferences.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much he's gonna get to talk
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: because he's just the off coordinator up there.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: But you know, one of the things he.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Said last year when he first got up there that
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I thought was so interesting, he said, well, the recently
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: can't we can't run the balls. Our wide receivers don't block.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: And I told him it's like, guys, you're not gonna block,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: You're not going to play. It's like, well, you have
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: to block down field to spring these guys. And he
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: goes and it and it changed, you know, and their
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: offense improved as he came in. Well, now you've got
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: a full spring, full roster under del Royola was a
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: true freshman last.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Years, made a lot of mistakes, a lot of runs.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: How hard it is to transition from being a freshman,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you know, senior in high school to playing power five football,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you know, or power four whatever it is. Now that's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a big jump, right, And so I think this Nebraska
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: team is poised to make a big jump this season.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Their schedule is very manageable. They've got three easy games.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I think they can win Cincy, Akron and Houston Christian
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: before they play Michigan, and like I said, I think
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: they can. And then they've got buy in Michigan, State, Maryland, Minnesota,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Northwestern Ucla, Pennstance, Iowa. I mean, this team could easily
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: go on to night if they can somehow get this
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: win at Michigan. When Michigan comes to see them in Forhskland,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: which I'm sure that game will be rowdy as hill.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: They couldn't pull a little bit of a run here.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: So I like what we're seeing from Nebraska. This is
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: a team that you and I grew up loving. I
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: went back and watched some old Nebraska highlights this summer.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Damn it was fun with watching those guys just run
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the wishbone and the option not the wishbe but the
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: option through are there all those years, And.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited for what we're gonna get out of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Big Red.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you same thing. I think they've
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: got a chance to step forward. I think it's a
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: huge year for him. I think he is just gonna
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: if they do go five and seven, six and six, boy,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: you're gonna there's gonna be a lot of people wondering
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: can he get it done? Too? Up there? Think rules
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: a really good football coach. He's gotten it done everywhere
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: he's been. That Baylor situation was brutally difficult. People forget
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: that building through that was incredibly difficult. Uh, it turns out,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe he wasn't doing such a bad job
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: after at Carolina after all. And then and then of
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: course the job he did the Temple. You know, so
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: there's some there's some good. There's some good background that says, hey,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I've got we're gonna get this done. And it does
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: look like it sets up well for Nebraska. So I
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: agree with you. They're a team in the big in
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the Big twelve, that's or Big ten, that's got a
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: chance to really bump forward.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: What do you think this season? Who's your first team
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: on this list?
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Gaddie, my first team, and look, man, we've talked about
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: him briefly. Is I really believe that Auburn is going
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: to take a step forward? I really do. I think
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: all that has been lacking from this team is remotely
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: decent quarterback play. I mean, if you go back and
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: look at some of the games they've lost, they have
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: been awful. I mean awful at quarterback and and and
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: really in tight games, it is one or two key
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: plays where the quarterback just made bonehead decisions. I mean,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: just like, what are you doing? I mean that col game,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I mean all they were awful, that Auburn defense played great,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: they were in awful spot after awful spot and just
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: couldn't get anything done. But I mean a couple of
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: SEC games, had huge turnovers, hell a Alabama game a
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago. I mean it's just I feel
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: like they if they get remotely good quarterback play for
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: twelve games, I think this is an eight nine win
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: football team. I think that's they get really good quarterback play,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: which Jackson Arnold is capable of doing, and I ain't
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: his team's got a chance to make the playoffs. That's
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: that really is the truth. But it's gonna be fascinating
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: because they are very much they go win six games
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: again or something like that, and man, talk about fired.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know how in the world are gonna freeze,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: you know, because look they're getting crushed right now in
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: the in the in the recruiting process. I think it
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: is because he has sunk a lot of teeth in
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: these last couple of classes, and look, they're gonna come
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: throw money at it late. So nothing matters in recruiting
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: until the kid's gotta sign until that first week what
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: is that first week, third week of December, whatever, that
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: signing day is. Nothing matters until then because they you
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: go in and start offering kids money. There's a different deal.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: And look, if you don't think the SEC is about
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: to start paying under the table outside of the revenue sharing,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I ain't your stupid, because they're all pissed off that
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: they're losing. So I think it's they're gonna be It's
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: gonna be brown back special. You know, uh it's coming back.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: You know, those kids are already starting to learn I
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: don't have to pay taxes on the brown bag, you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I know some of that's going on. Uh So that
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: is definitely one USC. The other I'm on, I'm will
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: stick inside the Big twelve. And I like the US,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I mean big ten. I skeep saying Big twelve. The
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: the the Trojans are fascinating to me. I mean, I
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: can't decide if I think they're gonna be good this team.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I keep going all over the map on and you
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: want to know what I think I think they're gonna
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: be exactly what they were last year. I mean, these guys,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: these guys are going out and look, they've signed some
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: good players in the portal, but I mean they're also
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: signing guys that are that are okay, you know what
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I mean. It's not like they're going out and getting
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: just complete and other studs in the portal either. So
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be fascinating. They lost, you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: they brought in some interesting guys. They didn't. I mean,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: they lost a couple of guys, but nothing, nothing crazy.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, man, they have gone out.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I mean the defensive backfield. They really tried to fix
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: defensive line. They had to go get some guys. But
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, man, when you're taking running back transfers from
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State, which they you know, and look, I love
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the kid that was over there that just graduated. He
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: was a great kid and and and loved him. But
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I mean you're going to get this year. They've got
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Eli Sanders coming in from New Mexico. That that's not
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: where sc needs to be. I mean, they're supposed to
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: have studs. They're supposed to have Reggie Bush, They're supposed
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: to have Lyndale White, They're supposed to have O. J. Simpson,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: They're supposed to have Marcus Allen. I mean, those are
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: dudes that have worn that helmet and they ain't got
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: that guy. And so I can't figure this out. I mean,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I am. It is so fascinating to me, the move
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: that that they're doing and the travel matters. I think
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: some games they're gonna win that they you know, man, look,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: going to Penn State's gonna be brutal, you know that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I am fascinated to see what this. They don't go
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: to Oh they don't. They don't go to Penn State
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: this year. They I forgot they're not return schedules. Yeah
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: they were, they were. They hosted them last year. Riddle
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: me this though, what me listen.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: To this skid last year? Here's their losses.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: They lost at Michigan twenty four to twenty seven, and
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: they were in that game.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I should have won that game.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Should have won that game.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: They lost at Minnesota seventeen to twenty four. That was
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: a kind of stinker for him. They lost at Maryland
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty nine. They should have won that
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: game too. Travel game lost at Washington UH twenty one
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: to twenty six, and then Notre Dame they lost thirty
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: five to forty nine.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: But remember I was on that game.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: They gave up two to ninety nine yard interception returns
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: as they were driving to win the game.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. That was they should have won that game.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And so my point is this team wasn't as.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Far off state and stayed at home. They almost beat
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: what was it, Yeah, I mean.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: They thirty to thirty three.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Had the league walk that game, you know, And so
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: my point is, I don't think this team. Here's where
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: it's interesting to me because I agree with you on
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: the dude scale, right, But the fact that Jordan may
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Iva is still there and you know, and they let
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: what the kid transfer that moved over to USC or
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: not USC Louisville. It's going to be their quarterbacks over there.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And the fact that that was kind of a non issue.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I think they think they had something here and I'm interested.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: And if you look at their schedule, they've got a
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: path because they they should open the season, you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: four to oh. Then they go to Illinois, which is
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: going to be a fabulous game because I think Illinois
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: is going to be is going to be really good.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: But I think this team's got an absolute path to
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: get to the Big Ten. And the reason I'm talking
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: about it is is if you look at Illinois's schedule
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: on where they've got this, Illinois has to play at
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Indiana and then they host USC the following weekend.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: That's a big deal because that Indiana game, it's going
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to be a big deal this year. And so I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: think it's a good spot.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: And so if you're looking at a spot where they
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: can pie, because you remember, you don't have to win
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: all your games anymore to get in this thing. They
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: have a path to get through, and I think it's
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: a manageable schedule. It's it's an interesting schedule, but I
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: think it's an absolute manageable, mansonable schedule to get through.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: So I think we're going to find.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Out if if Lincoln Riley has got any nuts, because
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: that's been the conversation you and I've had some views
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, is could he could he turn the dial
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: to win a championship?
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And thus far he hasn't proven that he can do it. Yeah,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: he's been the he's.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Been the best seven to ten win coach or I
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: don't how many games he's ever one of the most.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: But he's been the best set, you know, relevant coach
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that hasn't really done anything since he's gotten jobs.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Mark he said, two of the best seven or eight
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: all time jobs. Yeah, it's not like he's coaching in
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State. It's not like he's coaching all miss It's
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: not like he's at Arkansas. This day has had marquee jobs,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: you know. So, I mean it is. I think there's
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions about lan Riley. I really do.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: And but you're right, the schedule is very manageable. Look,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: they they Misspence that the only the only brand that
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: they play is Michigan and then I would say Oregon
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I would include as a as a brand. But other
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: than that, I mean, look, when you're getting Purdue Michigan
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: State Michigan, because I look, they're gonna start Underwood and
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: they're gonna struggle, even though that kid's really, really talented.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: They're they're gonna lose some games they should. They're gonna
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: be held on wheels next year. I think they're gonna
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: be stupid good based on that roster. Uh, But they
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: get Northwestern, They're they're at Nebraska, that'll be a tough one.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: They host Iowa and they got u c l A
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: to end at the end of the year. If you
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: tell me your conference games, your road games are gonna
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: be Oregon, who's gonna be starting a first time starter
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: at quarterback, Notre Dame. I'll include as a conference game Nebraska,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Purdue in Illinois. You gotta like your chances there. This
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: team doesn't win nine or ten games, and man, you
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: really gotta ask questions. I mean, they won't fire him
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: if he goes nine to three, but man, it's gonna
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: be hard. I mean, honestly, I think the two blows
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: likely games to loser. Illinois and you already discussed that
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: spot on the schedule, Notre Dame, and then next is
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: at Nebraska. Yeah, that's the most likely games to lose.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: So you gotta like your chances if you're SC fans.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, look traditionally, Hell, they're talking two of those
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: three games up as auto wins. Normally. Oh yeah, I
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: know we're gonna lose to Illinois, you know. I mean,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: that's the bottom line. So it's gonna be This is
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: a fascinating team. The difference is the record may show
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: them being significantly better than this team is. That's what
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I think. I think they may be fools goal. This
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: team could go nine to three and be total fools goal.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, but it's they're fascinating, scout.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I want to go to another team whose path is
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: not nearly is easy to.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Follow, but it's right there in your backyard.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about my main man in his fourth year
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: down there in the world of George, and we don't
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: back down Sunbelt, Billy and the Florida Gators.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Where this team.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: You and I talked last year that we thought this
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: team was going to be better than advertised, and they were.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: They went eight and five. They had to bring in
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the freshman quarterback DJ Lagway. I talked about it. I mean,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: we played the kid in high school. He was a
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: true freshman. Last year he was still rough around the edges.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: You could tell he throws off his front front a
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: lot underneath stuff he struggles with downfield, and he's a
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: phenomenal athlete and his leadership qualities cannot be questioned.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the guy.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: You can build a franchise around this kid, and he's
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: only nineteen years old. But sun Belt in Florida, this year.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I think they've got some high expectations. Fifteen returning starters
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: are coming back on this team, yep. And their schedule
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: is as brutal as it gets, mainly considering the SEC.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't help any that you have to kept
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and play the U. It's one of your non cons
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: in that spot.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: And their bookending Miami in Florida say that's their two
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: none cons. I mean it's yeah, this is a brutal.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: It's a brutal schedule for the Gators. I couldn't agree more.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Do think they're gonna be good. Lost a couple of
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: guys on the defensive line that hurt them in the
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: transfer portal, which candidly I was kind of surprised, But
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I do think this team's gonna be gonna be better.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I think this may get Sunbelt Billy through the through
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the eye of the hurricane, I guess would be the
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: right way to do it. He finds a way to
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: beat Miami early, and boys, can't you tell about game on?
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting because I don't think anybody knows
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: what the Canes are gonna be based on the quarterback spot,
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: so so it's gonna be you know, is he healthy,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: is he back from Tommy John? What what happens there
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be That's that whole deal is fascinating. Is
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: a fascinating window. This Florida team's good. They're not gonna
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: get They're not gonna get bus tired against Miami like
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: they did last year. I don't expect last year, Miami
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: just came in to play bully ball with them, and
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna be able to do that
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: this year. I think because this team is one more
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: year down the road and a strength and conditioning standpoint.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: But here's the deal, Sun Belt, Billy's got to get
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: them back competing for championships or he's gonna get fired.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Seventy five doesn't get you anything. They fired Dan Mullin
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: after you've been to three straight SEC championships. Right, one
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: bad year, let's the discipline get away from him and
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: boom fired. Now. I know part of that is because
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Scott's Trickling didn't like Dan, but that's okay. At the
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: end of the day, they don't have a long lease
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: down there, and they Billy's got to take them. He's
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: gotta take them, take them forward. At some point, I
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: don't know that they're good enough to get to the
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: level that that the Gator fans expect. I only gets
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: the nine and three, ten and two football team either.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see where this is gonna go.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Like I said, this schedule is rough, dude, because you've
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: got You've got l s U, You've got Texas, you've
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: got Georgia.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: And I better than any of those teams. Those are
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: all three losses. All three of those teams they go to.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: They go too much for Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I mean it's rough, dude. I'm just telling you.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: It's like if you're gonna go play football d NCC,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: we know this. You got to wear your big boy
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: pants and you got the same thing when you coach there. Man,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: this schedule is rough and uh. And like I said,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: they go it's like you said, they go to seven
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: and he goes seven.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: And five and I think he's done and you can
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: go seven and five and be good. I mean realistically,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, because you.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Think eight and four. Let's say they lose to Miami
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: and they lose those three games. I just said, that
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: means they want an Oxford I mean that means they're
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: really That means they're a good football team, because oh,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: let's go be a good football team. And they go
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: on the road and win that game, or they beat
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: one of the other three that we just talked about.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: They beat at Georgia, they beat a Texas, they're eight
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: and four. I mean that this team could be six
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: and six and be a really good football team this schedule.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I agree, I totally agree. I mean, it's not somebody
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: you want to play.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's the case, but yeah, I mean, so
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: if you're looking at if you're looking at those teams,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if there's any other teams
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you've kind of been eyeballing. But and the reason I
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: bring all these teams up Florida, Nebraska, Miami, and USC
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin is.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I think that as far as those teams that are kind.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Of programs there, they're national title expectation programs.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: And I'll throw you one more and I don't and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I like the guy, I don't know, if he's a
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: good coach.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: We can go to Norman, Oklahoma, and what's oh you
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: gonna do this season?
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I mean I hear, I hear all kinds of accolades
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: about this defense, and you're and most of you unless
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you watched some c W last.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Year and showed out at the Manning Camp showed out.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't watch the c W last year,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: you probably didn't see Washington State play and see John Bttier.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: But he transferred in from Washington State. Actually, as we know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the Ou quarterback transferred out. The backup that played most
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: of you last year. He's back to backing up. I think, uh,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: but my tier comes in, the offensive coordinator comes in,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and I think Brent Minnibles is betting his job that
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: this is gonna work.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: And you know he played a pretty much a Mountain
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: West schedule last year. Well let me tell you what.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: He is not playing a Mountain West schedule this year.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And so this Oklahoma team, same thing.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's got him picked really hot, and I
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: just I can't get there.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I mean I.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Would take this is gonna sound funny, my favorite eight
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: and four team of all times, Texas, A and M,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: and I almost would tell you to take them with.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: But I mean this Oklahoma team, they have to They
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: host Michigan week two.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Auburn comes there. Their schedule is actually manageable.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Kent State, they got to go to Texas, they are
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Texas and Dallas. Then they at South Carolina, who I
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: don't think it's good. Old Myths comes there, they could
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: beat them. At Tennessee, who I don't think it's going
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: to be that good. They go to Bama Missouri. Nology,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: this is a this is a nine win schedule if
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: this team has any mustard at all.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: But I, like I said, Vinables hasn't been able to
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: do it. I mean he had a ten to win
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: season at the end of the Big Twelve, but that
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: was a terrible scheduling for the year. So I don't know.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're at They're at Bama, at Tennessee, at South Carolina.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, those are those are pretty those are pretty
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: rough games. They're they're l s U. They got l
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: s U at home to end the year. They've got Missouri. Uh,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: they they finished the season. It's a pretty it's a
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: pretty rough strat they finished the season. I'm gonna double check.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: See they got one bye week in here. They're they're
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Texas at South Carolina, Old Miss at Tennessee, off week
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: at Alabama, Missouri L s U. Right, that's pretty rough.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Go because I'm gonna tell you I just told you,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I think Alabama and l s U maybe the two
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: best teams in the league. And they're pretty good and
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Texas is probably the favorite in the league. So they
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: got really good teams. Oh and by the way, they
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: go to Tennessee and they got old miss mixed in there,
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: and they got a what ten win Missouri team mixed
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: in there? Because din Missouri end up winning ten after
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: the broad game, you gotta get hit me that. That's
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: a really tough schedule. So, I mean, it is interesting.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: And oh, let's not forget ah. They're gonna start off
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: with the Michigan Wolverines to begin the season. So again,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I think that could have to pull them forward and
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: really get them going. At Auburn Oklahoma game is a
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: barn burner. We talked about Auburn's schedule. They've got your
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Baylor Bears, then they got this a couple of weeks later.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: They win both of those Auburn's of nine ten win
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: football team, they lose them both. They're six and six,
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: they're seven and five. They split them. We'll see where
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: they end up, but they got to win one of
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: those two. The Tigers have got to win one of
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: those two. This is gonna be a huge game. The
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: same is true for Oklahoma. They've got to win one
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: of those Auburn Michigan games. They win two, they got
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: a chance for a decent year. But I will tell
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: you upfront, I don't think this schedule gets them eight
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: to nine wins. And I think that's what Oklahoma fans
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: are expecting. Any Oklahoma jobs gonna be available, we'll see
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: the Auburn and Oklahoma jobs are both open. Let me
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: tell you who's gonna get paid paid, absolutely paid. Is
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: one Lane Kiffin, whether he stays in Oxford or not.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: They're already paying him ten I think it's ten to three. Buddy.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: He may be making fifteen million by the time this
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: season's over, by the time next coaching circuit's over. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I will tell you I don't care what anybody says.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: It is driving him crazy watching Sarkesian have the success
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: he's having at Texas. Are you kidding me that he
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: wouldn't take the Oklahoma job. Oh yeah, Oh, he'll take
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: it in the damn heart beat and a heart beat.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I would rather have the Oklahoma jib than the Auburn job.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Oh me too. I think the Oklahoma jib is a
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: better job too. I would agree. I would agree with that,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: especially over history. I would agree with that wholeheartedly. So
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be fascinating. Plus, you got to remember long
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: time ad at Oklahoma just announced he's retiring. They're gonna
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: be shopping for an athletic director, and my guess is
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: he's gonna want his own. Guy. Venables better figure out
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: how to win nine ten games.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good season.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Man. The media days are kicking off, and let's wrap
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: this up. We got a couple more things we gotta
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: get out of here. Got a hard stop a little bit.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: But can we hope that Diego Pavia shows up at
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: SEC media game with both his brothers Sholo and then
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: just kidding and maybe like a big gold chain and
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: like Bandy's turts, you know, just a T shirt on.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Fuck your couch, man, I ain't wear a suit.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like when Texas showed up last year
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: with on the cowboy hats when they had media day.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: In Dall, Like now it's in it, now it's in Atlanta.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Can we go straight Atlanta og like, roll up with
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: some hooties.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: I want him to wear a sombrero I want him
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: to show up in a sombrero. Just go, just go
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: full New Mexico on me. Let's go New Mexico State.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Let's go give me, give me a sombrero. Baby, that
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: would be hysterical. I have some I agree with you.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be fascinating cause you know he's coming. I
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: has players that we know he's coming.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I think there's ten quarterbacks coming.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, arch Manning's coming, but he's bringing, uh the linebacker
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Anthony Hill, and I forget somebody else.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: But if I'm Bandy, because.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Bandy's not even bringing their tight end and that guy's
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: gonna be a first round drafting Eli Stowers or whatever,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: he's not coming. If I'm Bandy, I would show up
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: with Pavia and two brothers and that's it.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they need to just phrase mark that and
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: just start selling them in Nashville.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I'm all on.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I can whip one up today, and I
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: am sure that I will break all kinds of trademark rules.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just want one. Mandy's turn and I
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: also want one. I'm gonna get somebody to make this.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I want Pavia in a low rider with his brothers
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: and his sho low glasses and they're wearing those Vanderbilt
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: you know overall.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah into the student section last year.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I just I'm so excited for college football
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: and we're so.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Close to get close.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: When I saw Poppy was on the list, and you know,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: he's already come out this season and talking to smash smile, man, bro,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: you earned it.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, he has earned it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: And this vanded team is actually gonna be I think
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: they're better this year than last year.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: They got. They gotta be a chance equally as good
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: as they were last year, for sure, and that means
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: beating some people. So it's gonna be Look, man, the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: college football is gonna be fascinating. The difference with the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: transfer portal is there's always gonna be teams that surprise you,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: that that that the that the sauce mix is right
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: and everything works. There's also gonna be teams that the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: sauce mix is wrong and it doesn't work. When you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: when you're bringing in thirty new guys and you know,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: I mean some of the roster numbers I saw. I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: saw Oklahoma State is bringing in I think I can't
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: remember what the number was, thirty something, thirty something guys
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: and every transfer portal kid pretty much wasn't there in spring,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: and he's expected to play. He's a first year player
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: and it is expected to play. Man, Gundhy's got his
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: hands full. You got no idea what that team's gonna
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: be like. Because he's a good football coach and you're
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: bringing in that many guys that you've never seen in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: their jersey. You got no idea what they're really gonna be. Like.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Does the sauce mix well or does it not? So
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be it's gonna be fascinating. The guys like Gundhy,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: I think the game is I think this is really
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: hard for them. They were a sign and develop and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: build guys, and Man, that just doesn't exist in college
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: college football anymore. Uh. A guy doesn't hit the field
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: and he's gone. I think there's some coaches that the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: that the that this doesn't mix. I want to talk
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: about which when we get to the A c C preview, Man,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: I ain't people gonna be stunned how much I like
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Clemson and the wide receiver development last year late in
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: the year with those two young kids was absolutely incredible.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Boat Texas wide receivers that were high school kids last year.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Those kids are better. That's the most talented white Outs
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: they've had in years. You got club Nick. Those guys
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: have got another year under their belt. Man, I think
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: that team's gonna be good. Branded Jacob's kid is a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: freshman over there, looks like a fricking beast. I mean
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: he may be a man child running the football. So
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be fascinating to see what the Clemson Tigers
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: are like too. Since we're talking about Marquet programs.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I agree, I totally agree. Folks are gonna wrap it up.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Scott and now are gonna be dropping a lot of
• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:49
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: But that being said, Brother Countdown is on. It is Thursday,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: and we are just six weeks away.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: From college football season and I am excited y'all have
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: some good weeks. Prayers to those that have been affected
• 1:03:09
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:14
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:19
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