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🐮Cow Techno, Daylight Savings and a VERY Late Cath · No Dribble

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Speaker 1: You're listening to a DM podcast.
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Speaker 2: We'll try to keep it as nice as we can,
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Speaker 2: but you might hear the occasional swear word in No
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Speaker 2: Dribble Don't tell Mom. Hello and welcome to No Dribble,
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Speaker 2: the podcast where we talk about netball and we talk
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Speaker 2: about so much more. I'm Caroline Swindell, hot off the
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Speaker 2: back of a great long weekend. I'm in Sydney and
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Speaker 2: I'm joined remotely this week. I'm here by myself, but
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Speaker 2: I'm joined as always by two legends of the game
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Speaker 2: in different parts of the country. I'm joined by Liz.
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Speaker 3: Elis as always.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm out of my caravan and I'm back in
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Speaker 1: northern New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: We're happy to see your back under af a roof
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Speaker 2: without wheels. That's nice, and also joined by Yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: not that Kat's microphone isn't working. It's that Kat can't
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Speaker 2: deal with daylight saving so we set this time because
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Speaker 2: she was going to be in Queensland. So she's on
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Speaker 2: holidays with her family, which were very supportive of and
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Speaker 2: she's just worked out that the time is different in
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Speaker 2: Queensland than it is in New South Wales.
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Speaker 3: Now yes, which is funny.
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Speaker 1: Because she goes to Queensland conservatively seven times a year,
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Speaker 1: five of those would be during the Daylight Saving peer
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Speaker 1: because her parents live on the Gold Coast, right, so
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Speaker 1: this is not an unusual thing for Catherine. And every
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Speaker 1: time I knew today as I was scraping to get
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Speaker 1: here on time because I'm still trying to deal with
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Speaker 1: my nasty rash that we talked about a few episodes ago,
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Speaker 1: but I thought, as I was driving home, I thought,
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Speaker 1: I wonder if Catherine realizes that it's Daylight Savings here
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Speaker 1: and not in Queensland. And sure enough, as we logged in,
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Speaker 1: the message we got from Catherine was oh crap, oh.
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Speaker 2: Crap, because you put a message upside, I'll be there
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Speaker 2: in two minutes and then that's like dot dot dot
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Speaker 2: Oh crap.
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Speaker 1: So yes, And the irony of this, of course, is
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Speaker 1: that Catherine is habitually early, and it causes all sorts
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Speaker 1: of issues with our friend group, because when we organize
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Speaker 1: to go to a restaurant, if we say seven pm,
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Speaker 1: the first thing Catherine says is no, that's way too late,
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Speaker 1: So we always go resting home hours a six pm,
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Speaker 1: which means that everybody is late, right, So anyway, but
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Speaker 1: I always think, Okay, Catherine's always on time.
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Speaker 3: I've got to get there on time.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, when you are going to get there on time
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Speaker 1: with Catherine time, you're fifteen minutes late because she's always
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Speaker 1: there fifteen minutes early.
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Speaker 3: And she sends a message and says, I'm here, I've
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Speaker 3: ordered a drink.
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Speaker 1: And you get there and she's not only ordered her drink,
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Speaker 1: she's finished her drink, and she's finished the olives or
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Speaker 1: the brusquette that she ordered was she was waiting, right,
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Speaker 1: So you always feel like you're late. So I'm always
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Speaker 1: hyper ventilating a bit just to get there on time.
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Speaker 1: And now I have got one moment where I can
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Speaker 1: just hang this over her head for everyone everyone ever. Yeah, look,
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Speaker 1: you might be early at the restaurant, but you are
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Speaker 1: forty minutes late for the podcast.
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Speaker 2: And we started without you.
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Speaker 1: Well exactly, I feel like I'm just paying it forward.
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Speaker 1: She starts without us all the time because none of
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Speaker 1: us are ever as early as her.
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Speaker 2: It's difficult for everyone. Daylight saving, I love it. I
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Speaker 2: love daylight saving, but it is a massive It just
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Speaker 2: takes your mind and your body a little bit to adjust.
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Speaker 2: I adjusted my clock radio in my car on within
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Speaker 2: twelve hours of daylight saving started, and I just want
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Speaker 2: to get some type of gold star for that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should.
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Speaker 1: I adjusted the clocks in my house for daylight saving
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Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, so I maybe should get a silver
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Speaker 1: star because I didn't adjust the clock in my car
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Speaker 1: until Monday morning, so you know, that's forty eight hours.
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Speaker 1: But still that's okay. I think it's sort of a
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Speaker 1: little challenge for yourself to do it. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know that the people in queenslanda and Western Australia are
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Speaker 1: listening to us and thinking to themselves, what is this
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Speaker 1: daylight savings time.
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Speaker 3: You think you talk of?
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Speaker 1: And happily your curtains are not fading and your cows
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Speaker 1: are not going sourn their milk because you guys haven't
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Speaker 1: changed the clocks whereas we have.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but every time it happens, you have to relearn
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Speaker 2: the technology of how to reprogram something, don't you. I
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Speaker 2: was in the kitchen yesterday this yesterday man Monday, and
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Speaker 2: I was I thought, I'll reprogram the microwave time now,
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Speaker 2: and we had the back doors wide opened. It was
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Speaker 2: a gorgeous day and my daughter was still outside and
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Speaker 2: Peter just said, I'm just going to go and have
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Speaker 2: a bit of a snooze. So he'd gone into the
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Speaker 2: bedroom only a couple of minutes before. Then DoD starts
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Speaker 2: screaming there's a turkey in the house, and a bush
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Speaker 2: turkey had warned it in. So I turned around to
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Speaker 2: look in the lounge room, which would be by the
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Speaker 2: back sliding doors. No turkey there, and I said, no,
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Speaker 2: there's not. She said, it's gone into the bedroom. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: gone into our bedroom. This giant bush turkey gone into
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Speaker 2: the bedroom. Pete's trying to have a snooze in there,
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Speaker 2: and this turkey's in there, flying at the window trying
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Speaker 2: to get out. You know what birds are like when
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Speaker 2: they're panicked. It's awful, like, it's just a horrible thing.
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Speaker 2: So I a broom and I was going to sort
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Speaker 2: of try to show it out that way. He's throwing
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Speaker 2: pillows at this damn thing to try to get it
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Speaker 2: to go out.
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Speaker 3: That you got to make it come.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it right down, but it's it walked out and
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Speaker 2: it started to walk towards the door. So I just
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Speaker 2: followed it with the broom. But as soon as it
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Speaker 2: got outside the door, I started whacking the broom on
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Speaker 2: the ground, screaming, because you know these are protected you know,
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Speaker 2: bush turkeys. If they decide to make a nest in
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Speaker 2: your yard, you can't do anything about it, like they're
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Speaker 2: protected species. So I certainly in New South Wales, I
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Speaker 2: think it's Australia white. But so you want to discourage
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Speaker 2: them from thinking that your yard is a nice, calm
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Speaker 2: place to live. So I am racing after this thing
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Speaker 2: with a broom, smacking it on the ground, screaming like
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Speaker 2: a lunatic, whacking the pool fence, whacking the metal outdoor table,
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Speaker 2: whacking the side fan. This thing left and obviously when
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Speaker 2: I got to get out of here, she is a lunatic.
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Speaker 2: We're all to take.
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Speaker 3: Your neighbors with it, because surely they all heard this commotion.
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Speaker 3: And where we're out to.
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Speaker 2: No, no, well, everyone's away on holidays, so that's nice, perfect,
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Speaker 2: But an hour later, the damn thing's back, just wandering
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Speaker 2: around the yard again, like, oh hi guys. The thought
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Speaker 2: i'd cop and catch up. But it was the funniest thing.
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Speaker 2: Just there's a turkey in the house, having a turkey.
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Speaker 1: I see our chicken sometimes wander into the house and
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Speaker 1: we have to if we've got the doors open, because
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Speaker 1: we've got fifteen chooks.
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Speaker 2: Well, but they're residents, right, they are residents.
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Speaker 3: Actually we had seven, we had seventeen chooks.
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Speaker 1: We also have a pair of wedge tarl eagles living
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Speaker 1: on our farm, which are beautiful in which we like
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Speaker 1: to show visitors. The downside is, since we got rid
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Speaker 1: of our dog, is that there's nothing to discourage the eagles
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Speaker 1: from the chickens.
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Speaker 2: Fancy, I feel like chicken tonight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so the chiks are Evelyn's right, So we
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Speaker 1: don't give her pocket money. We buy her chickens and
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Speaker 1: we've bought a fancy schmancy coop that you can move around,
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Speaker 1: and we pay for the food. She has to look
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Speaker 1: after the chickens and collect the eggs and then she
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Speaker 1: sells the eggs, right, and they're beauty.
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Speaker 2: A little snow business one.
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Speaker 3: It is a little micro business.
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Speaker 1: And we teach her about at the moment she's having
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Speaker 1: to negotiate with her customers because she needs to lift
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Speaker 1: the price.
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Speaker 3: So currently they're five dollars.
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Speaker 1: And she needs to make it six dollars because that
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Speaker 1: is a bargain.
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Speaker 3: For it's such a bargain, and we deliver ride.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so need to my house.
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Speaker 3: No, no, we don't quite drive all the way to Sydney,
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Speaker 3: but we delivered. We delivered to Ballener.
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Speaker 1: So she's got one of a girl who she went
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Speaker 1: to school with. Her brother is Vegio and he's sixteen
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Speaker 1: or seventeen and he can't get enough eggs into his sister.
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Speaker 1: So her parents just buy almost all our eggs. And
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Speaker 1: then her mum works at flight center at a local
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Speaker 1: business in Balano, and then all these women have gone
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Speaker 1: who she works with, like, oh, five bucks for farm
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Speaker 1: fresh delivered eggs.
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Speaker 3: We'll have a piece of action.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, So we did went and did a little wreki
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Speaker 1: recently of all the farms in the area. We bought
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Speaker 1: cartons of eggs from all of them, so she could
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Speaker 1: do you know, like, okay, so now you're checking out
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Speaker 1: your market, checking out rice.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: So she tried to have this conversation with this woman
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Speaker 1: about a price increase on text. We've just said to it, no,
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Speaker 1: you can't have that conversation over text. You actually have
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Speaker 1: to go in and have a face to face conversation, which,
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Speaker 1: as we are learning, skin like having an actual in
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Speaker 1: real life conversation with.
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Speaker 3: A human scares the shit out of.
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Speaker 1: Anyone under fifteen, right, and so because they're also used
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Speaker 1: to their phones, and we're like, no, no, no, you have
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Speaker 1: to go in and have this conversation telling your raising.
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Speaker 1: You got to tell her why. You've got to have
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Speaker 1: the conversation. So it's so good because it teaches her
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Speaker 1: all about that. But the downside is every time an
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Speaker 1: eagle comes, she can see money flying away.
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Speaker 2: Right, there's a dog. You've got Evelyn out there running
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Speaker 2: around the yard.
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Speaker 1: Well she does now, so there's that's actually really heartbreaking
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Speaker 1: to go out and find a pile of brown feathers
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Speaker 1: because you know the eagles have been But she's also
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Speaker 1: doubly whacked because it's killing her for a pocket This
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Speaker 1: is her pocket money, right, so it's hurting her at
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Speaker 1: the moment. So yeah, anyway, so but occasionally check.
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Speaker 2: This little system though, rather than giving her pocket money,
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Speaker 2: is allowing her to earn it that way.
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Speaker 3: It is a good system. And too where I got
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Speaker 3: the idea from from Laura Guy.
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Speaker 1: It's former Diamonds captain who grew up in the country
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Speaker 1: and her parents bought her a potty calf. So that's
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Speaker 1: a calf that you've got to feed yourself. And she
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Speaker 1: had to raise it, and then her dad would let
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Speaker 1: his bull service it, and then she would have to
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Speaker 1: look after.
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Speaker 2: Get your bull off my pet, please, dad? Did you
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Speaker 2: see I haven't. I haven't managed to get to the
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Speaker 2: bottom of this, but I just saw something that was
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Speaker 2: apparently on the evening news last night that there's been
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Speaker 2: some screw up Quanus. There was a flight somewhere and
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Speaker 2: they put on an R rated movie that it must
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Speaker 2: have been an old plane, so it was just one
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Speaker 2: TV by the sounds of themes, and so there was
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Speaker 2: no way that the passengers could turn up.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I haven't been able to verify this, but you know,
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Speaker 2: it's one of those things that you go, I don't
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Speaker 2: even care if that's true. That's a funny story. That's great.
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Speaker 1: What haven't did like some flight host or the pilot
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Speaker 1: have porn or something going.
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Speaker 2: I have no idea. Let's put this whole video on.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know what the system is like anymore.
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Speaker 2: Do they have cartridges or what is it? But what
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Speaker 2: a classic. You're on the flight and it's you say
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Speaker 2: to your kid, just okay, great, you watch the movie.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be fantastic and it's.
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Speaker 1: Oh can we imagine, Oh my god, that will be
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Speaker 1: like flying Hi playing on you do you know? Years
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Speaker 1: ago before we had kids, Matthew and I went to
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Speaker 1: South America on a holiday and we caught the bus
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Speaker 1: from Lpez in Bolivia to up to the Salt sort
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Speaker 1: of lakes, which is beautiful, but anyone who's been there
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Speaker 1: would know that like red lights and traffic lights in
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Speaker 1: Bolivia are not the rules, they're just a suggestions. Nobody
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Speaker 1: takes any notice that whole area is notorious for fatal
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Speaker 1: bus crashes. So when we caught the original bus into
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Speaker 1: Lapadz from like Diddy Kaka because it's always fun to say.
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Speaker 2: Lake, did he fun to say? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So the bus that was in front of us, when
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Speaker 1: it pulled up, they got out fourteen from underneath the
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Speaker 1: area you know where all the bags are. Instead of
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Speaker 1: getting out bags, they pulled out fourteen coffins from the
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Speaker 1: bus crash that had happened the day before. So we
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Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, what's going on. So then
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Speaker 1: after dealing with what Paz and all of the like,
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Speaker 1: I loved it. My husband is not a great traveler,
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Speaker 1: so he just he really struggled a bit, but I
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Speaker 1: was like, come on, let's take on the traffic. He's like, no,
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Speaker 1: let's just sit here for the full five days, not move.
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Speaker 1: So and then we got on this bus to go
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Speaker 1: to up to the salt sort of lakes, and so
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Speaker 1: he's really nervous because he's just seen all these coffins
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Speaker 1: come out five days earlier from the coach that was
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Speaker 1: in front of us. And then as we drive up
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Speaker 1: to these salt lakes, the movie that comes on dubbed
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Speaker 1: in Spanish but played really loudly because everyone had to
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Speaker 1: watch it through the bus, was Saving Private Ryan.
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Speaker 3: And you know that that sequence where it's just all Cardige. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: this goes for bodies.
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Speaker 2: Blood were just like it goes for I wonder why
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Speaker 2: Matthew is not a great traveler. No, this just sounds
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Speaker 2: incredibly traumatic.
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Speaker 3: I was crying with laughter.
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Speaker 2: In the nineties, my friend her mum died after a
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Speaker 2: long illness, long cancer, and like it was about a
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Speaker 2: week after the funeral, I said to another friend, let's
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Speaker 2: just take her out, Let's go to a movie. So
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Speaker 2: we decided to go to a movie. But we didn't
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Speaker 2: know anything, and it's pre internet, so you just go
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Speaker 2: out and know what's this? This beent middle of movie?
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Speaker 2: It looks good. Let's go and see beaches. So we
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Speaker 2: wan to see beaches to cheer her up because it's terrible.
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Speaker 2: It's terrible. Hey, knock, knock, knock on the door. Here's Katherine.
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Speaker 3: Oh I know Catherine.
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Speaker 4: Oh, hi, guys, I've just joined it. That really depressing
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Speaker 4: story about seeing beaches.
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Speaker 2: Did you? But that's where when Beneath the Wings comes from, too,
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Speaker 2: isn't it.
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Speaker 4: It's and that's the only way that we're allowed to
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Speaker 4: talk about us? Is that?
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 4: It's such such a depressing movie. Are you talking about
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Speaker 4: first movies? Here? What have I come in on?
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Speaker 2: Talking about movies that can heap trauma on trauma? But Liz,
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Speaker 2: can we go back? I've written down Laura Guides.
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Speaker 3: So Laura Greats was telling me about her parents.
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Speaker 1: The way that she got her pocket money was rather
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Speaker 1: than actually giving her pocket money for chores, they bought
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Speaker 1: her a podcaft which she had to raise, and then
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Speaker 1: her dad's bull would service the car. When it became
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Speaker 1: a heifer, it would service the heifer, and then she
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Speaker 1: would help to sort of look after the offspring, and
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Speaker 1: then she would get to sell it, right, So once
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Speaker 1: every year she'd have her payday and it just depends
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Speaker 1: on the state of the cattle market, but you might
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Speaker 1: get anywhere from five hundred to one thousand bucks for
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Speaker 1: that offspring.
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Speaker 2: And this is her pet going off to become Now
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Speaker 2: this is.
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Speaker 1: Her pet's child, a woman, the child of her pet,
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Speaker 1: the offspring of her and the dad's bull.
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Speaker 3: And we were like and so we thought about that anyway,
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Speaker 3: We must have thought.
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Speaker 1: About it during a time and it was difficult to
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Speaker 1: get potty carts, so we sort of thought, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: a chicken business is the next best thing. And it's
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Speaker 1: actually been really good for Evyling because she has to
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Speaker 1: understand cash flow. She's got to understand her debtors, so
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Speaker 1: if someone hasn't paid, she actually has to make the
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Speaker 1: phone call and say have you paid me. She's got
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Speaker 1: to understand the costs that go into this, so that
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Speaker 1: even though we cover the cost, she has to we
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Speaker 1: make her understand what the costs are. And now she's
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Speaker 1: has to negotiate her pricing crest. So that's been so
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Speaker 1: good for her. But as the eagles carry off her chickens, yeah,
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Speaker 1: she's it's really not going very well at the moment,
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Speaker 1: because we've lost two. So we bought her fifteen chooks
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Speaker 1: and there was two leftover from the old lot who
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Speaker 1: we kept so they could show the other chooks how
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Speaker 1: to be. And I thought, if the eagles carry off
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Speaker 1: the old chooks, then that's fine. But no, they're carried
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Speaker 1: off the young chiks because the old choks are smart
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Speaker 1: enough to take cover when.
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Speaker 3: They see the eagles in the sky.
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Speaker 1: Normally board exactly right, Norma and Julie there stills of iron.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've missed you.
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Speaker 4: Apologies, guys. Daylight savings in Queensland. I was out having a.
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Speaker 2: Little saving in Queensland. That's the thing.
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Speaker 4: Well it should be, You're right, because it three me
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Speaker 4: completely forgot about it. We're up here doing our own
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Speaker 4: thing and I was out having a coffee and a
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Speaker 4: stroll with the dog and Harper, and then I get
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Speaker 4: the text message saying I'll be there in five I'm like,
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Speaker 4: oh crap, I won't.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 1: Two things that we did talk about was the fact
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Speaker 1: that this is not your first radio.
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Speaker 3: You go to Queensland quite a bit, and.
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Speaker 1: So this is you know, you should no better but
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Speaker 1: be it's such a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 3: For me to be anywhere before you, so I'm so happy.
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Speaker 4: To get apologies everyone. Okay, question do you guys have
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Speaker 4: Was there a public holiday in New South Wales yesterday?
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Speaker 2: I'm right there was and there was.
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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're in sync again because I feel like
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Speaker 4: Queen's Birthday was completely different in Queensland and New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: Well it is so Queensland I think had the King's
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Speaker 2: Birthday holiday yesterday and we down here had Labour Day,
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Speaker 2: so I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: Come on, but do you know what actually, probably Queensland
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Speaker 1: Birthday Queensland is one hour and twenty years behind, so
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Speaker 1: they'll have the Queen's Birthday long weekend for another twenty years,
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Speaker 1: and then in twenty forty it'll be a King's Birthday
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Speaker 1: long weekend.
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Speaker 3: But that king then will be wead.
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Speaker 4: So at least we all had a day off yesterday together.
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Speaker 4: That's nice.
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Speaker 2: I was reminded when watching the Roses and Diamonds game.
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Speaker 2: Just thought maybe i'd mentioned some netball at some stage
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Speaker 2: in our discussion here today when they played God Save
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Speaker 2: the King, which is of course the national anthem. When
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Speaker 2: I started primary school, God Save the Queen was the
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Speaker 2: national anthem and we would sing it on parade every morning,
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Speaker 2: did you we'd stand to attention. This is in Queensland
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Speaker 2: Public Primary school, Yeah, Malcovat State School, then McGregor State School,
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Speaker 2: then Kelvin Grove State School. Yeah, so it was actually May.
16:59
Speaker 4: Yeah.
16:59
Speaker 2: I think it was not until I was in high
17:00
Speaker 2: school that we changed to Advance Australia.
17:03
Speaker 4: For I was listening to it, though, I must say
17:06
Speaker 4: during the test matches it is the easiest anthem going around,
17:10
Speaker 4: although Stacey Francis Bayman did tell me that you have
17:13
Speaker 4: to be able to get pretty high to sing it. Acrat.
17:17
Speaker 4: Oh god, there's nothing worse than an Advanced Australia fair
17:20
Speaker 4: house is the worst.
17:21
Speaker 2: I liked the national anthem rendition at the NRL Grand
17:25
Speaker 2: Final much more than the AFL Grand Final. There was
17:27
Speaker 2: much less messing about with it, so it was sung
17:31
Speaker 2: much more to the actual tune. It wasn't so much
17:35
Speaker 2: a performance as a leading the country in the national antha.
17:39
Speaker 4: Yes, well that's interesting because I thought Cody Simpson did
17:42
Speaker 4: an incredible job at the AFL Grand Final, actually not
17:45
Speaker 4: going too crazy with it.
17:47
Speaker 2: But at the end it was all sorts of different
17:49
Speaker 2: trala laing in the last couple of notes serious, I'm lost. Yeah, yeah,
17:53
Speaker 2: well you know, or fair airing as it would be,
17:57
Speaker 2: so I just yeah. And interestingly, more NRL players singing
18:03
Speaker 2: the national anthem than AFL players.
18:06
Speaker 4: Oh that is interesting, right? Who sang the anthem at
18:10
Speaker 4: the NRL's Grand.
18:11
Speaker 2: Daddy watching Daddy m and the kid LAROI did the opening.
18:15
Speaker 2: He was amazed.
18:16
Speaker 3: He was so good, finished off with a bit of inexcess.
18:19
Speaker 4: It was so good. How about your team thoughly zelus
18:23
Speaker 4: four of the about my team now?
18:24
Speaker 3: Someone accused me recently.
18:25
Speaker 1: I think it was my nephew, who he's designed now
18:28
Speaker 1: of being a bandwagon jumper because I cheered for Penrith.
18:31
Speaker 1: I was like, oh mate, I cheered for Penrith since
18:34
Speaker 1: the eighties when they were the Chocolate Soldiers and my dad,
18:37
Speaker 1: my late dad and I used to trundle out to
18:39
Speaker 1: Penrith Park and just watch Penrith getting pumped.
18:43
Speaker 3: But I love them so.
18:44
Speaker 1: Actually I cheered for the Jets, the Newtown Jets for
18:47
Speaker 1: some I don't know why, and then when they got
18:50
Speaker 1: kicked and then when they got kicked out, but they
18:52
Speaker 1: were in the grand actually won the state Championships Grand
18:55
Speaker 1: Final this year. But when the Jets got kicked out
18:58
Speaker 1: after the nineteen eighty two and find what I think
19:00
Speaker 1: it was. I was like, right, I've got a cheer
19:02
Speaker 1: for someone, and my dad cheer for Paramatter or as
19:05
Speaker 1: we like to say, Paris Matter. Dad cheer for Paramatter,
19:08
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, that's good, but I'll cheer
19:11
Speaker 1: for the local team because I lived near Penrith, so yes,
19:14
Speaker 1: and I thought it was really interesting, right. I read
19:17
Speaker 1: Andrew Webster wrote a great article in the Sydney Morning
19:19
Speaker 1: Herald yesterday about Penrith, about Ivan Cleary, and I think
19:23
Speaker 1: it just goes across all sports, about just the work
19:27
Speaker 1: that's like the impact that sport can have on the community.
19:30
Speaker 1: And it was, you know, when Ivan Cleary first turned
19:33
Speaker 1: up at Penrith in twenty twelve, he looked around and
19:35
Speaker 1: no one at Penrith was wearing Penrith uniforms and jerseys,
19:39
Speaker 1: and lots of people were wearing like Paramatter and Canterbury
19:41
Speaker 1: so other Western Suburbs teams, but there was almost like
19:45
Speaker 1: people went proud of their own local team because they
19:47
Speaker 1: weren't winners as a all. And he sort of set
19:50
Speaker 1: out to change that culture with Phil Good and there's
19:52
Speaker 1: been a bit of back and forth, but in this
19:55
Speaker 1: iteration of Ivan Cleary's coaching, they've actually made it.
19:59
Speaker 3: They've got the team back into the community.
20:02
Speaker 1: And so now not only are the number one jerseys
20:05
Speaker 1: sold out, but the pink jerseys they wore the other
20:07
Speaker 1: night and they had to wear that because they were
20:09
Speaker 1: their way team. They sold out weeks ago as well,
20:12
Speaker 1: you know, And so that's like the that's the top
20:14
Speaker 1: level sort of reflection of the Pride.
20:16
Speaker 3: But the other thing is that.
20:17
Speaker 1: These players do a lot of Almost all the players
20:21
Speaker 1: are homegrown, so Penrith has this amazing nursery of junior
20:24
Speaker 1: rugby league players.
20:26
Speaker 3: It is amazing, isn't it.
20:27
Speaker 1: And then so basically they grow them and they win
20:30
Speaker 1: premierships and they send them out. So you know, a
20:32
Speaker 1: number of that team are leaving that leaving Penrith this year.
20:36
Speaker 1: But the work that they do in the community, there's
20:38
Speaker 1: been a significant reduction in gang related violence since they
20:42
Speaker 1: actually did this. So I, you know, like I have
20:45
Speaker 1: these these these dreams and plans for how netball We're
20:48
Speaker 1: going to get netball. It's a great community sport, but
20:51
Speaker 1: then how do we actually really target our elite players
20:55
Speaker 1: to address issues. And I think this is a really
20:57
Speaker 1: good example of how of how you can use your
21:00
Speaker 1: elite players in a really positive way in the community.
21:03
Speaker 1: And I thought that was just such a fascinating reflection
21:05
Speaker 1: of someone coming and going our community isn't proud of
21:08
Speaker 1: us to change it around.
21:10
Speaker 3: There's a couple of things.
21:11
Speaker 1: Yes, you need to win, or you need to be competitive,
21:13
Speaker 1: because then you've got a team you can get behind,
21:15
Speaker 1: but you get your players back into the community from
21:18
Speaker 1: whence they came, from where they grew, and they've really
21:21
Speaker 1: made enormous strides in that regard as well. I thought
21:23
Speaker 1: it was just a fascinating reflection of what sport can do.
21:26
Speaker 1: And I think it's a really easy thing to be
21:29
Speaker 1: dismissive of sport as a bit, you know, it's a
21:32
Speaker 1: bit of fluff or it's the opiate of the masses,
21:34
Speaker 1: but there is really significant change that can happen when
21:38
Speaker 1: you think carefully about how you deploy your elite players
21:40
Speaker 1: back into the community.
21:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the things I was thinking about on
21:44
Speaker 2: the weekend. So this is for those who don't care
21:46
Speaker 2: about NRL, and I acknowledge that there are quite a
21:48
Speaker 2: lot of people. Penrith Panthers have just won their fourth
21:51
Speaker 2: Grand Final in a row now that has not been
21:53
Speaker 2: done in the modern era of rugby league, and the
21:55
Speaker 2: modern era being an era where the clubs have to
21:58
Speaker 2: play to a salary cap, except Melbourne apparently sometimes don't
22:01
Speaker 2: have to play with the salary cap, but they've done
22:04
Speaker 2: their time for that. But Jerome lou I said after
22:07
Speaker 2: the game, this will never happen again, and I'm I'm
22:10
Speaker 2: interested in that because it's like, well, it has happened
22:12
Speaker 2: in the modern era under a salary cap, so therefore,
22:16
Speaker 2: as difficult as it may be, there is no evidence
22:19
Speaker 2: to suggest that it can't ever happen again. But it's
22:22
Speaker 2: been a long time since it's happened, and I just
22:24
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk about this is the greatest
22:26
Speaker 2: rugby league team that has ever played and it's just
22:30
Speaker 2: interesting to compare things. And I'd be interested to hear
22:32
Speaker 2: what you two think having played in an era that
22:35
Speaker 2: is old and daish now but not quite the olden days.
22:40
Speaker 2: Sounds like this, how do you compare players now and
22:45
Speaker 2: teams now and achievements when everything changes so much?
22:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.
22:51
Speaker 4: Well, the chalk and cheese, aren't they? Because it's I
22:54
Speaker 4: feel like back then you had far more loyalty to
22:57
Speaker 4: a team because you weren't being part so people weren't
23:01
Speaker 4: moving or shifting or whatever. They were staying with their
23:05
Speaker 4: core team, weren't they. So I think for us, we
23:07
Speaker 4: won a lot of premierships off the back of the
23:09
Speaker 4: fact that we had the same team for a long time.
23:12
Speaker 4: But then you look at us as athletes and there's
23:14
Speaker 4: no way in the world we're as fit or as
23:17
Speaker 4: strong or as fase as any of the current athletes
23:19
Speaker 4: going around. No chance, because we didn't have the money
23:23
Speaker 4: coming in to be able to be professional athletes and
23:25
Speaker 4: to holly and solely focus on that. So there's two
23:28
Speaker 4: different sides to it, completely different sides to it. But
23:31
Speaker 4: I understand now how hard it is, and I agree
23:33
Speaker 4: with him because yeah, you're winning, but everybody else has
23:38
Speaker 4: now got the time, the funding, that everything else to
23:41
Speaker 4: continue to raise the bar as well, so they're constantly
23:44
Speaker 4: coming at you and evolving and all that sort of stuff.
23:47
Speaker 4: So staying at the top is probably the hardest thing
23:50
Speaker 4: to do. You know. We spoke about this before, I
23:53
Speaker 4: think with my Aussie selection, and that for me the
23:55
Speaker 4: hardest thing wasn't getting there, it was staying there. So
23:58
Speaker 4: that's now what Penrith is going to do because they're
24:00
Speaker 4: well and truly the Hunter before the next season even starts.
24:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think with Pendroth, their advantage is that
24:06
Speaker 1: they can pick up incredibly talented juniors and grow them.
24:09
Speaker 3: And that's how you build a good team.
24:11
Speaker 1: And that's what you know when you look at super netball,
24:14
Speaker 1: and you know the super Netball is limited by a
24:17
Speaker 1: salary cap. The real key is not in signing your
24:20
Speaker 1: marquee players.
24:21
Speaker 3: The real key is in.
24:23
Speaker 1: Picking those talented juniors who you get for probably a
24:26
Speaker 1: bit less than what they're going to be worth. And
24:29
Speaker 1: you know, if you watch the Moneyball movie, it's a
24:32
Speaker 1: really good way of showing you how you build a team.
24:35
Speaker 1: You don't look for your Markee players or players to
24:37
Speaker 1: fill a hole. You look for players who are undervalued
24:40
Speaker 1: and or who are junior. And so your junior pathway
24:44
Speaker 1: has become so important because they're the ones who you
24:46
Speaker 1: get in before they've proved themselves. But your talent identification
24:51
Speaker 1: should be good enough to say, yep, she's going to
24:52
Speaker 1: prove herself in a few years time, where She's going
24:55
Speaker 1: to be really valuable in a few years.
24:56
Speaker 3: Time and then Liz.
24:57
Speaker 4: Isn't the issue with netball that there's not enough spaces
25:00
Speaker 4: to keep those people and that's why we lose them
25:03
Speaker 4: to New Zealand or England or to other class It.
25:05
Speaker 1: Is right, and that's why that's the argument for the
25:07
Speaker 1: fact that the league really to be sustainable, I think
25:09
Speaker 1: needs to be expanded. But even apart from that, as
25:13
Speaker 1: you build your list, you might have your Janiel fowlon
25:15
Speaker 1: emas or your hell and House big Overseas marquee signings,
25:19
Speaker 1: you know, or your Diamonds Wiki or you know, for
25:22
Speaker 1: the Diamonds, you know, there's Sophie Garvin, there's Joe Weston,
25:25
Speaker 1: there's Liz Watson. There's your big marquee signings in different
25:29
Speaker 1: parts of the court. But the best way to build
25:31
Speaker 1: a team is not with your marquee but having a
25:33
Speaker 1: really good talent identification. So you know, you go to
25:38
Speaker 1: junior championships and you go to state championships and your
25:40
Speaker 1: ID players who are going to come through and they're
25:42
Speaker 1: the ones that are going to win you your grand finals.
25:45
Speaker 1: Probably I have this theory about winning grand finals, right,
25:47
Speaker 1: it's not your big players, it's how much your next
25:50
Speaker 1: level down how close they can get to the performance
25:53
Speaker 1: of your your big name players.
25:55
Speaker 4: Because the Adelaide done exactly right.
25:58
Speaker 1: So you know they've got theymeld Aching at one end
26:01
Speaker 1: of the court and they've got Shimira Sterling at the
26:03
Speaker 1: other end of the court. The key is what are
26:06
Speaker 1: the rest of their players do? What does Matilda Garrett do?
26:08
Speaker 1: What does Georgie hor Just do, What does Hannah Petty do?
26:11
Speaker 1: And when that next level is down here, when they
26:13
Speaker 1: lift up and perform just a little bit high, they're
26:16
Speaker 1: the ones that are going to win you the Grand Final,
26:18
Speaker 1: right because your marquet players are going to do what
26:20
Speaker 1: they do and every team's got them. It's that next
26:23
Speaker 1: level down who had show the ability.
26:25
Speaker 3: To step up. And I think the Thunderbirds across the
26:27
Speaker 3: board did that really well this year.
26:30
Speaker 2: But with only being able to have ten players on
26:32
Speaker 2: the on the roster, it's really hard to bring new
26:35
Speaker 2: talent in. Isn't it too to blog them?
26:38
Speaker 3: Yeah?
26:38
Speaker 4: It is.
26:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, put that on your list of things to do
26:41
Speaker 3: because I don't have enough.
26:44
Speaker 2: I think cath Weine agreed that we would not give
26:46
Speaker 2: these lots of things to put on her list in
26:48
Speaker 2: this podcast that this would be an oasis of calm
26:51
Speaker 2: and relaxation, especially no talk of.
26:55
Speaker 1: Right, especially while we're tap dancing waiting for our third
26:57
Speaker 1: person to come along and join the conversation.
27:01
Speaker 4: Yes, sorry, anyway, how is everyone's public holidaated? We all
27:04
Speaker 4: had that? Oh have we a.
27:09
Speaker 2: Half an hour?
27:10
Speaker 3: This is what happened when you're late?
27:12
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you a skill I learned online.
27:15
Speaker 2: Okay, excellent.
27:16
Speaker 4: So we decided to go out on the water yesterday,
27:19
Speaker 4: the worst day in the world to do it, because
27:21
Speaker 4: it was beautiful sun shining, not a breath of winds,
27:24
Speaker 4: a perfect boating weather. Everyone and their dog in Queensland
27:28
Speaker 4: was out on the water yesterday. So as soon as
27:31
Speaker 4: you get out of kind of the main canals and
27:33
Speaker 4: into the broad water of the open water, it's like
27:35
Speaker 4: a washing machine, no word of a lie. Every little
27:39
Speaker 4: bank that's you know, high tide, the banks are all up,
27:42
Speaker 4: all covered in boats. There's people all over the beaches,
27:46
Speaker 4: so there's it's nuts. There's people everywhere. The water is
27:49
Speaker 4: a mess. So we're about three hours into our little
27:53
Speaker 4: cruise out there getting moved around, and I have to
27:56
Speaker 4: go to the toilet, so you know, you know mom
27:59
Speaker 4: and Dad's boat. It's a party pontoon, so it's just
28:03
Speaker 4: a big, flat, open boat. So there's no toilet on it,
28:07
Speaker 4: and I'm looking around, thinking, A, there's nowhere we can
28:11
Speaker 4: pull up, because normally we're just pull into one of
28:13
Speaker 4: the little banks. And you know, I just half myself
28:15
Speaker 4: into the water at the back and.
28:17
Speaker 2: Go to a I'm going to say, you're on the ocean.
28:19
Speaker 2: That's a giant toilet.
28:21
Speaker 4: It is, but not when there's this many people around
28:23
Speaker 4: and the boat are wrapping like crazy. So Dad's got
28:27
Speaker 4: a collapsible bucket on the boat. I was like, okay,
28:30
Speaker 4: so this is this is going to have to happen.
28:31
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to get this bucket and go
28:34
Speaker 4: to the back of the boat. But then there's people everywhere,
28:36
Speaker 4: so every five seconds is the boat passing you or
28:39
Speaker 4: jet skis and the water's like this. It was quite
28:43
Speaker 4: the challenge. I didn't get any on me.
28:45
Speaker 2: Everyone well done. I hope you weren't wearing shoes.
28:50
Speaker 3: Put that on my list of well done. You don't
28:53
Speaker 3: even need a she wear.
28:56
Speaker 4: Well. He pulled out this tiny little thing. First.
28:58
Speaker 2: I was like, nep, come on, man, this is why
29:02
Speaker 2: I don't like going on boat.
29:05
Speaker 1: Do you think on those years of pissing into a
29:07
Speaker 1: container doing drug testing might have helped you.
29:09
Speaker 4: I was thinking of it exactly, your folks to whistle
29:13
Speaker 4: when the amount of times I wrote on the you
29:17
Speaker 4: know after you do your drug test. I don't know
29:19
Speaker 4: if we've mentioned this before in our drug testing chat,
29:21
Speaker 4: but had asked for feedback at the end when you've
29:24
Speaker 4: done all your forms and stuff. I always put bigger beaker, bigger.
29:29
Speaker 3: Beaker because I have a bigger vagina.
29:33
Speaker 4: Because it's you know, the boys.
29:35
Speaker 3: Are so lucky.
29:37
Speaker 4: Boys are lucky, don't Yeah, so easy for them, So yes,
29:40
Speaker 4: pat myself at the back we don't go through it.
29:42
Speaker 2: Well, something else you can pat yourself on the back floor.
29:44
Speaker 2: So last week you made a confession about your double
29:47
Speaker 2: dnom Canadian taxiedome new music tastes and your country music.
29:52
Speaker 2: I was listening to some I was listened to the
29:55
Speaker 2: radio and there's a new genre of music called cow techno.
30:00
Speaker 2: So it's country music that has been technified. So there's
30:04
Speaker 2: one called down in Boots that you should listen to.
30:07
Speaker 2: And tell me whether does that allow you to bridge
30:11
Speaker 2: the gap between your country music love and good taste?
30:17
Speaker 4: Is it techno technique? Because I'm not a big techno fan.
30:20
Speaker 4: I'm keen to have a listen though.
30:31
Speaker 3: Across the road.
30:33
Speaker 2: But now I've got a question for you. By So,
30:34
Speaker 2: I teach ethics at my daughter's primary school. We have
30:38
Speaker 2: one class a week, and I'm a volunteer ethics teacher,
30:41
Speaker 2: but there is a strict curriculum. I don't just make
30:43
Speaker 2: it up as I go along. You'll be pleased to hear.
30:45
Speaker 2: But I've got two I've got a Year five class
30:47
Speaker 2: and a Year one class, and I'm kind of at
30:50
Speaker 2: odds with one of the questions that the Year one
30:52
Speaker 2: classes had to have had to deal with relative to
30:55
Speaker 2: what I am coaching my kids to do on court
30:57
Speaker 2: by under elevens. So the question that was put to
31:01
Speaker 2: the year ones is if you're playing soccer and it
31:04
Speaker 2: touches your hand and you score a goal and the
31:07
Speaker 2: umpire doesn't see it, do you tell the umpire? And
31:10
Speaker 2: all the year ones will like, absolutely, You've got to
31:13
Speaker 2: it's cheating. When I'm coaching my under elevens, if they
31:16
Speaker 2: are about to step off side or whatever I say,
31:19
Speaker 2: don't draw attention to it. If the umpire doesn't see it.
31:23
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened. It's just it's not your job to
31:26
Speaker 2: police that. So don't you know they step off side
31:29
Speaker 2: and then make a big gesture of looking at their
31:31
Speaker 2: feet and going, oh, I'm so sorry and look what
31:33
Speaker 2: I've done. Silly me, and it's like, no, just just
31:36
Speaker 2: do what you do, try to get back on side quick,
31:38
Speaker 2: and you know, we'll deal with whatever happens. So what
31:41
Speaker 2: do you think is that am I coaching my under
31:43
Speaker 2: elevens to behave in an unethical fashion?
31:45
Speaker 3: No, that's a good question.
31:46
Speaker 1: But I also coach my under thirteens that, regardless of
31:50
Speaker 1: who hit the ball out, I want them to chase
31:51
Speaker 1: the ball and pretend like it's they're throwing. Good times potentially,
31:56
Speaker 1: I've never thought of the ethical issues around that, because
31:58
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting as I used to think that
32:01
Speaker 1: back when we were playing, there was a big who
32:03
Speaker 1: ha because Adam Gilchrist remembered the cricketer used to he
32:06
Speaker 1: walked a few times if he felt that he was out,
32:09
Speaker 1: and he got a bit of criticism for that because
32:11
Speaker 1: he was making a decision that affected.
32:13
Speaker 3: The whole team in the interest of being ethical.
32:15
Speaker 1: And you know, I really admired him, and I thought,
32:19
Speaker 1: would I ever change, Like if I hit the ball
32:23
Speaker 1: out in the umpire called it our way, would I
32:25
Speaker 1: say no, No, I hit the ball out?
32:27
Speaker 4: And I came to the very different elite sport though,
32:30
Speaker 4: right with the pressures of what's happening in elite sport
32:34
Speaker 4: as opposed to under eleven snapw nod.
32:37
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about it in terms of like,
32:39
Speaker 1: would I have done it like so Adam Gilchrist was
32:41
Speaker 1: playing for Australia. Would I have done it playing for
32:44
Speaker 1: the Swift still playing for Australia. And I came to
32:47
Speaker 1: the conclusion that I wouldn't because there's plenty of times
32:50
Speaker 1: and I know this is probably the wrong answer completely
32:52
Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it. There's plenty of times
32:54
Speaker 1: where the throwing should go your way and it doesn't,
32:57
Speaker 1: or where you think you hit the ball off last,
32:59
Speaker 1: but when you go and look at the replay, actually
33:03
Speaker 1: somebody else touched it or you actually the umpire got
33:06
Speaker 1: that right. And I think there's an issue about if
33:09
Speaker 1: you're going to make the umpires call correct or you have.
33:12
Speaker 3: To respect the umpire's decision.
33:14
Speaker 1: You can't start doing the umpire's job for her because
33:16
Speaker 1: if you say no, no, I hit the ball that
33:18
Speaker 1: it should be their throwing. Then what about the next
33:20
Speaker 1: time when you go, actually, they hit the ball that
33:23
Speaker 1: it should be my throwing. Then the umpire's going, well,
33:26
Speaker 1: oh you told the truth last time. Did I see
33:28
Speaker 1: it wrong?
33:28
Speaker 3: Right? So you actually there's a threshold question about It's
33:31
Speaker 3: not about whether you make that decision. It's about well,
33:33
Speaker 3: who's in charge of the game. And in cricket, for example,
33:36
Speaker 3: there is this code of the players can call it.
33:39
Speaker 1: But in netball we're very much the umpire's decision is
33:42
Speaker 1: the final decision, and even when it's massively wrong, it's
33:45
Speaker 1: still the final decision. So it's not up to the
33:47
Speaker 1: players to overrule the umpire over and if it's in
33:49
Speaker 1: the other team's favor. So I think you're teaching your kids, Carol,
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Speaker 1: on the right thing. Unless there's something really demonstrable. I
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Speaker 1: think as long and as long as they respect that
33:58
Speaker 1: when the umpire's decision go against them, they still have
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Speaker 1: to go, Okay, we've got to get on with it.
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Speaker 2: Then you just go yes, and there's any bitching against
34:07
Speaker 2: the umpire, but I'm just going your job is to
34:09
Speaker 2: play netbook. Their job is to direct how the game
34:12
Speaker 2: is going.
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Speaker 4: So I think if you're an individual athlete, it can
34:16
Speaker 4: be as honest as you like knock yourself out. But
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Speaker 4: he's so right. I think that's a tricky one for him,
34:21
Speaker 4: in particular in a team sport, as you make those
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Speaker 4: calls and your whole team. Imagine in a World Cup
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Speaker 4: if we were down by one or something leads, or
34:30
Speaker 4: we were up by one and the team was chasing,
34:32
Speaker 4: there's a few seconds left and one of our teammates said,
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Speaker 4: oh no, I went off side and you'd killed them.
34:36
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and that's something that Selenda Gilsoner would do
34:39
Speaker 3: because she's.
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Speaker 1: So honest, right, we had to get her out of
34:43
Speaker 1: you know, she had this mentality that if she got
34:45
Speaker 1: a few intercepts in a row, she'd let her get
34:47
Speaker 1: the ball a few times to sort of eaven it up.
34:49
Speaker 3: And I was like, imagine being that. But that good
34:51
Speaker 3: that you can do that. So anyway, we beat that, Adam.
34:54
Speaker 1: But if it was the player's job to unpire the
34:56
Speaker 1: game as they went, then yeah, you absolutely have to
34:58
Speaker 1: tell the truth. But in changing as much as we
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Speaker 1: don't want kids or players to be challenging the umpire,
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Speaker 1: when they get it wrong. When we think they get
35:08
Speaker 1: it wrong and the call goes against us. We actually
35:11
Speaker 1: have to be careful about challenging when we think they
35:13
Speaker 1: get it wrong and the call is going with us.
35:16
Speaker 1: You know, you have to just set a level of
35:18
Speaker 1: behavior and that's it. So it's about accepting what the
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Speaker 1: umpire says.
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Speaker 4: There you go, did that answer your ques chat?
35:24
Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I think this is what's beauty
35:27
Speaker 2: beautiful about a discussion about ethics is that there's never
35:29
Speaker 2: a right answer. That there's only different lenses that you
35:32
Speaker 2: can look at something through, and ultimately you have to
35:34
Speaker 2: make your own decisions. And I'm still going to be
35:37
Speaker 2: saying the same thing to the girls. It's like the
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Speaker 2: umpire has to do their job and they ones can
35:41
Speaker 2: be as virtuous as they like. We've moved on from
35:44
Speaker 2: that topic. That's about all we've got time for. I mean,
35:50
Speaker 2: this is a sad, sad day for no dribble because
35:55
Speaker 2: we don't have a win beneath our wings nomination.
35:57
Speaker 3: That's because nobody likes you when you're twenty three.
36:00
Speaker 2: Money likes you when you're twenty three. So this is
36:02
Speaker 2: a call to arms problems, Please get nominating we need
36:07
Speaker 2: the voice notes. You know, contact us through social media
36:10
Speaker 2: if you can't work out how to send a voice
36:12
Speaker 2: note on Instagram. If you look at our Instagram page,
36:15
Speaker 2: there is a very informative, short entertaining video that I
36:18
Speaker 2: did on how to send us a voice note through Instagram.
36:21
Speaker 2: Please keep it less than a minute. We are very
36:24
Speaker 2: keen to have nominations because we know that this great
36:27
Speaker 2: game of ours only happens because of the tens of
36:30
Speaker 2: thousands of volunteers around the country who are keeping it alive.
36:34
Speaker 2: So it is our twenty third episode and we cannot
36:37
Speaker 2: possibly have run out of people who need to be
36:39
Speaker 2: acknowledged for being bloody legends of the Game of Men.
36:42
Speaker 4: Do you know what I just thought about?
36:43
Speaker 3: There?
36:44
Speaker 4: The old twenty three that makes us halfway through our
36:46
Speaker 4: scrunchies too? Doesn't it.
36:49
Speaker 2: Time for us to get and we might be down
36:54
Speaker 2: to the worst ones too?
36:57
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why people.
36:58
Speaker 2: Are nominated, because it's like they just said, the best
37:00
Speaker 2: ones off the way to sell it, way to sell it,
37:02
Speaker 2: Carolyn's window, way to sell it. No, Kath, we need
37:05
Speaker 2: to get the machines out again and let's get on
37:07
Speaker 2: and let's get on it, and yeah, so yeah, please
37:11
Speaker 2: everyone get behind Win Beneath our Wings. Also get behind
37:14
Speaker 2: our Facebook page, our Instagram page.
37:17
Speaker 4: Have we told the dribblers about our little special some
37:20
Speaker 4: things we'll be doing over the holiday break? Have we
37:22
Speaker 4: mentioned that yet? While so I wasn't here, No, no,
37:25
Speaker 4: are we going to or we just leave it at that?
37:28
Speaker 2: I think we did talk about it last week. Didn't
37:29
Speaker 2: we say we're looking for some content over the break?
37:31
Speaker 3: Yeah?
37:32
Speaker 4: But did we tell them what we planned, what we're
37:33
Speaker 4: up to already?
37:34
Speaker 3: Now, let's wait until it's closer to in the year.
37:36
Speaker 3: It's on October?
37:37
Speaker 4: Who okay? All, all right, well there's your first tease.
37:41
Speaker 2: All right, Well, very sad that twenty three episodes in
37:43
Speaker 2: we do not have a Win Beneath our Wings nomination
37:46
Speaker 2: for this week. So but I've given you all a
37:48
Speaker 2: revove about that. But I do want to talk about
37:50
Speaker 2: one of our earlier wind Beneath our wingers, and that
37:53
Speaker 2: is the legend who is Bob Jarvis, who we talk
37:55
Speaker 2: about quite regularly on this podcast. So Barb posted a
37:58
Speaker 2: photo of herself on the Facebook age with a perm
38:01
Speaker 2: which is we're very approving of that. It was in
38:03
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety at her daughter's wedding and it was her
38:07
Speaker 2: with her husband Ray at their daughter's wedding, and you know,
38:11
Speaker 2: we found out that Ray passed on the third of
38:13
Speaker 2: July this year, and you know, Bob came along to
38:17
Speaker 2: our live event. She brought a crowd with her. She
38:21
Speaker 2: is obviously just an absolute lynch pin of that Shamrocks
38:24
Speaker 2: community and so positive and obviously facing just such a
38:29
Speaker 2: huge loss and personal standards. You never know what people
38:32
Speaker 2: are going through, because Bob was there with the brightest
38:34
Speaker 2: of smiles, reving people up, having a great time. And
38:37
Speaker 2: we just want you to know, Bob, we love you
38:39
Speaker 2: and we're thinking of you, and we're really grateful for
38:41
Speaker 2: what you do for No Dribble and the broader netball
38:45
Speaker 2: community and I'm sure everyone who you touch. So we're
38:47
Speaker 2: thinking of you, Bob. So this week Kat's going to
38:50
Speaker 2: go and listen to some cow techno and report back
38:52
Speaker 2: to us. Next week, Liz is going to be running
38:55
Speaker 2: around in the yard to protect the chickens and her
38:57
Speaker 2: daughter's livelihood from the wedgetail eagle. What am I going
39:02
Speaker 2: to be doing, I don't know. I'm at the comedy
39:03
Speaker 2: store again this weekend, which is fun. So but oh yeah, yeah,
39:07
Speaker 2: and then still know netball for me until week after.
39:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
39:10
Speaker 1: Well they're Australia playing New Zealand, which is pretty exciting. Look,
39:12
Speaker 1: one of the things I was tasked last week to
39:15
Speaker 1: go and do a deep dive into Britney Spears Instagram
39:17
Speaker 1: and I did not so, I think because the weather
39:19
Speaker 1: was too nice.
39:20
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be sitting on my screen.
39:22
Speaker 2: But yet, that's all we've got time for. Please do
39:23
Speaker 2: get involved in our Facebook page, which I think is
39:26
Speaker 2: no dribble podcast now Instagram account, which is no underscore
39:29
Speaker 2: dribble underscore podcast. Lots of you are inviting friends to
39:32
Speaker 2: join the page. We love that. Please do that. Please
39:35
Speaker 2: share this podcast with your friends. We know there's a
39:38
Speaker 2: lot of people who love netball who haven't yet discovered
39:41
Speaker 2: the Joy of the Dribble. So and get nominating to
39:44
Speaker 2: win an our wings. But that's all we've got time for.
39:47
Speaker 2: I'm Carolyn Swindell.
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Speaker 4: But I like the Joy of the Dribble.
39:53
Speaker 2: Sounds like a book from the seventies, Joy.
39:56
Speaker 3: Of the Dribble.
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Speaker 2: The cartoons that will be the best in that right,
40:00
Speaker 2: So maybe we won't put that on a T shirt.
40:03
Speaker 2: We're going to need to find something that's far charmer.
40:07
Speaker 2: What this picture?
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Speaker 4: Where the dribble's coming fast?
40:11
Speaker 2: All right, well, thanks for joining us dribblers. I'm Carolyn
40:13
Speaker 2: Swindell cat Clox.
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Speaker 4: I'm tardy, but I.
40:16
Speaker 1: Got here indeed, and I'm lose Allis and I tried
40:18
Speaker 1: to go before you and because I'm used to being early.
40:21
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it's chaos. It's chaos in the dribble world.
40:25
Speaker 2: But hopefully Kath will be on time next week. Thanks guys,
40:28
Speaker 2: have a great week.