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MotoGP Portugal 2025 Round 21 Recap in S5 Ep 40 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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What your thoughts on Miguel Olivera?
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One, should he have been able to find a seat next year in Moto GP
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and stay? And also I didn't realize the
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Portuguese love Olivera more than they love soccer, football,
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European football as I know Shakespeare.
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Mad at that. Alex Marquez, he's #2 in the
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World Series, World Series, in the Championship Series series,
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he did it without his brother. You know, we, I probably gave
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him a little bit of Flack saying, you know, he, he, he
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could, he wasn't sustaining it, especially after his injury.
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He wasn't, you know, riding the same way he was at the beginning
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of the season and stuff like that.
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What do you guys thoughts on him?
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You know, the way he was able to win the Sprint and still get on
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a podium in the GP even though he didn't win the GP.
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Let's talk about did Acosta, you know, Quatro and even even Peko
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well, because he was fourth in qualifying.
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A lot of fast laps, a lot of fast riders as is looking the
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way he's looking. So it may be too late because,
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you know, Bez, you know, why is Bez going to fall back right now
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next season? I mean, he's the guy that looks
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like he can take it to Marquez, enjoying to watch.
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You know, these are these are young heads.
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These are not the veterans that we're used to seeing.
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I mean, I know Moto GP looks a lot different in the last five
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years than the previous 10 just stock with VR46.
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I mean, you know, like Frankie, he he he like he can't get out
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of his own way and he's a lot better than the beginning of the
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season. But now it's just because of the
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beginning of the season, all not beginning, but you know, most of
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the season, the end, the the things that he's gotten himself
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into every little thing now seems like it's the worst.
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What are your thoughts on where Yamaha is the definitely some
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struggles still. And, you know, we hopefully
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they'll fix it next year because this year's rough.
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You're listening to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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My name is Rex 45 and this past weekend Moto GP was in Puerto
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Mayo, Portugal crazy race weekend not necessary some
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first, but I think the top three riders that we picked on on our
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YouTube page is so who's going to win the race were upfront.
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So I'm excited about that I'm excited to talk to the guys this
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week. So let's bring them in one at a
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time and, and, and see what's what.
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TJ, man, welcome to the show. How you doing tonight, man?
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It's. Cold up here man.
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I'm doing good but trying to stay warmth.
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I got a little taste of winter today, so trying to stay warm
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and you know, the winter sports season, that's that's what it's
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approaching. So still trying to enjoy what we
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got left in motorcycles. I see you got, I see you got the
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Suzuki hat. I thought you might have had a
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Patriots something, a banner something, because there were
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they nine and two now something like that eight and two, you
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know, I mean, I know they're not the same Patriots.
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Yeah, we're playing good. It's it's, we're used to it.
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I don't want to jinx anything now because, you know, when it
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comes to the playoffs, it's almost like 1 and done.
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So we're we're looking good. We're back in the pitcher.
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And. Ask them to cheer for, you know,
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no losing seasons over here. No doubt I I feel you're there
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because it's we might be able to steal something.
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So if you can take something home with you, you always got to
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try Speedy man, welcome to the show.
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How you doing tonight, man? Pretty good, pretty good.
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I think I'm playing. Everything's going pretty smooth
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out here. So right.
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I mean, you got flags waving for a different reason, man.
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I mean, things are gonna come back to normal for you,
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hopefully the next few weeks. I mean, work wise, yeah.
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But it is what it is. That's it.
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Go to work, don't get paid and get paid later.
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I don't know. So I, I, we'll, we'll, we'll
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hear more about it as a show gone.
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You go on. You ready for Moto?
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I mean, you watch Moto GP. So you're excited to talk about
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the weekend and, and, and you know, the woes of of Honda.
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Well, the woes of Honda. Shut up, man.
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Reece is good, man. Welcome to the show, man.
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You got me nervous, man. You got that hat on, man.
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You know? Then I feel like I I should
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start a fire or something. What's good?
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Up here, cold man in Arkansas, but no, just left what, Indiana.
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So it's cold man. It's getting there.
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It's that time of the year. So I mean, do you do you keep
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the rig at 80° inside? I mean, does it get that hot?
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I. Mean you can you can get hotter,
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they can start sweating. I mean.
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So I rewanted all. Right, no doubt, man.
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Listen, that's the best thing when you as long as you got a
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heater and AC, life ain't too bad when you got to traverse
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this country. For real, man, it's not that bad
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today, but it's still a little chilly outside.
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Like Hoodie and Scully. Yeah, no doubt.
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I haven't seen any lizards out today man, so.
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What's going on, fellas? Again, I know, man.
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We got to move your situation and turn your situation again.
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So there you go. Look at that.
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We love. It turned, it turns sideways.
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You know, that's what happens when you like Honda, you know
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what I mean? You're doing it by itself.
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I don't know why. No, no, that's a, that's a Honda
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guy, right? That's what happened to me.
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Turn on, you know, the Honda, they don't, they don't know how
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to go straight. They turn sideways all the time.
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It sounds like something some of the Honda riders was saying in
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the past. It's going sideways.
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I don't know why. Right.
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That's what happened to Marquez. You say I'm out, I can't do this
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no more. We got, we got Flack last time
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for Colin Boulliga, a replacement rider for Marcus.
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So we might have to be a little bit careful with Smitty and and
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and and Marquez because he might not be as nice as as Lewis was
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last last week. He's not a replacement rider,
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he's a feeling rider. It didn't look, it didn't look
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too bad, but depends on which side of the coin or bed you
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slept on and and watch that race.
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But we'll dive into it. Let's let's, you know, let's
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let's talk about Miguel Oliviera, Portugal winner.
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The first time Moto GP went to Portugal five years ago, I
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believe, maybe a little bit longer.
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It's his last round at Portugal as a Moto GP rider because he's
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moving to World Super Bike next year.
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I know we've seen these these in the in the past, riders walking
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away and lots of well, people walking away from their sport.
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You know, do you do you guys looked at the celebration and
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and and saw what are your thoughts on Miguel Oliveria?
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One, should he have been able to find a seat next year in Moto GP
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and stay? And also, I didn't realize the
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Portuguese love Oliveira more than they love soccer, football,
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European football as I know Shakespeare mad at that.
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But what are your thoughts on Miguel TJ?
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I mean, I'm happy to see like the the support that he gets
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from, you know, his hometown. It was a good celebration.
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I mean, the fans were rocking the 88.
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It was pretty cool. And showing the love, like
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knowing that he's not going to get first place, you know, they
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still just give him the mass support.
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It's sad to see though, because I don't think it's not his
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choice to depart Moto GP. It kind of just fell into that
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way at the point in time. I think when it's deciding
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between him and Jack Miller. I don't know what other seats
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are really available at the point at that time.
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So I'm not really sure what that, but good thing is he still
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has a seat Ross super bike and I actually think Ross super bike
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Co supported miles. So I'm sure his fans will still
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still be there to support him, just, you know, in another
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another series. So but it was good to see him
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out there to actually finish his time.
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And you know, going back to the past few times he's been there,
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he's been taken out for by Mark Marquez and just seeing like his
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dad there supporting him and stuff like that is cool to see
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that he was able to just finish and wait to his fans goodbye.
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I I, I, I agree hard to see. Smitty, what are your thoughts
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on Miguel? I know he was on the chopping
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block from the beginning of the season.
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For you, one of these riders that were finishing in the top,
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I mean in the bottom 50. Look man, Moto GPI feel that the
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sport needs more turnover. Sometimes with those back
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riders, they hold on to to the rise too long.
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And in Moto 2 we have a lot of young talent and sometimes look,
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it doesn't work out. For example, some cat Chantra,
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he was crushing it in Moto 2 Moto GP.
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It just didn't go his way. So he got his, he got a shot and
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now somebody else, you know, we get we get, you know, that same
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shot. But back on Miguel, I mean,
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didn't he win anything? He won what?
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But like one race. I think if he he won at least
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one, maybe more than that, he's a rider.
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He's he's just a guy, yes, he's, you know, his last race was in
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his hometown in GP this past weekend.
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But I mean, it is what it is, you know?
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Yeah, but you know, he go ahead, go ahead.
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No, I was, I was going to say this.
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You know, in Moto GP right now only 6 riders have have won.
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So there's not a lot of riders in GP that win races.
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I mean, true, but even if they, even though he won one
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previously, he has he had a very lack left career, you know.
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So him leaving, is it a loss of GP?
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No, not at all. So saying so saying that it's
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sad he left. I won't say it's sad at all, you
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know, because I mean, the sport will be fine next year when he's
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not there, honestly. He's crazy.
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That boy, heartless man, Jesus Christ.
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Listen, I mean, this is who you are running your company, man.
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I mean, you know, someone like Smitty just like move on to the
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next. I mean, I know Top Rock is huge
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for Moto GP. I don't think it's a replacement
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deal. You know, you're on the inside.
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You know how you look at Oliveira.
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I mean, it was I mean, I don't, I mean, unless he went to Honda
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or I mean a test ride. Oh, you know, we could have
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stayed, stayed and and what are your thoughts?
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You agree with Smitty as far as like, he just didn't cut, He
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didn't have the mustard. I mean, with Oliveira, man, I
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mean kind of agree with Smitty a little bit.
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I mean, I'm not that heartless. I mean, I wish the guy the best.
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I wish in the future endeavors on, you know, the next round,
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you know, the next life and then chapter, you know, but I mean,
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he he didn't really get to his full potential.
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I mean he just wasn't it. And this year it was just this
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year, a couple last past couple years, it just seemed like he
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just couldn't stay up on the bike.
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It's just somebody always ran into the guy.
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It was like almost like target sensation for people to see him
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and just they just go. So he kind of had the bad luck
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of the draw. You know, I think he may do a
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lot better in World Super bike. You know, not many people in
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there. They don't.
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It's a different race, you know, as you can see the way you
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break, it's in completely different.
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So you know, so I I think he'll do better there.
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I mean, will the sport miss him? Not per SE, but the, the, you
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know, the Portuguese guys will, you know, the fans will miss
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him. Five wins, not to cut you off
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with five wins it looks like he had in in the GP championship
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while he was there in one pole position.
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I mean, five wins in a pole position, no matter how you look
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at how you cut the mustard, it's still something impressive to
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actually win a Moto GP race and to get a pole.
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So it's still something impressive.
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I mean, you know, he's never won a championship, but I mean, he
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still has his mark there. And, you know, to see what he
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does in World Super Bike, maybe he'll do a lot better.
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Maybe that's where he needs to be.
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You've seen a lot of guys go to World Super Bike and restart
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their career. I, I, I agree with that.
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I think it's, I think it's too soon for him.
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Me. I think Danilo Petrucci was the
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right time. He was, I mean, it was the right
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time because he did, he did the KTM stint and then moved over
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and is established himself. And he was older and and I and I
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and I do believe he, you know, Oliveira had a better career
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than Petrucci. They may have similar wins, but
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Oliveira came out of Moto 2 and was like a superstar superstar
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and just that that, you know, just plagued with bad luck kind
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of thing would knock them out. Before we dive into the races,
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let's talk about Alex Marquez. He's #2 in the World Series,
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World Series, in the Championship Series series, and
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you know, two brothers since of Venus and Serena finishing one
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or two. He did it without his brother.
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You know, we, I probably gave him a little bit of Flack
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saying, you know, he, he, he couldn't, he wasn't sustaining
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it, especially after his injury. He wasn't, you know, riding the
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same way he was at the beginning of the season and stuff like
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that. What are you guys thoughts on
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him? You know, the way he was able to
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win the Sprint and still get on a podium in the GP even though
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he didn't win the GP. We'll start with TJ.
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Yeah, I mean, it's it's pretty incredible to see like, you
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know, brothers to, you know, have stats like that.
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You know, you don't see it too often.
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Like, you know, he can walk around with a chip on his
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shoulder now, you know, he's actually proved that, you know,
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he's he got second place and it's hard to beat his brother as
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it is. But you know, I think if his
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brother was on Honda Steel or even out for the season, it
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would have been, it would have been Alice's, you know, because
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Pecker didn't show up. My team is out.
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So but yeah, I mean, it's good to see Alex get #2 and to to
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fight this weekend. Felt like he had the pace to be
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upfront. There was times where he was a
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little up in the back. He had to fight to get past a
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couple riders, but he did it cleanly and just showing that
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he's a second place rider, right?
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I mean, I I didn't have the confidence in now it's this this
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year at all. So like.
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From. Last year, this from last year,
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this year, I, I hats off to him and I don't know what his
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brother finally instilled in him, but it's it's good to see.
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Yeah, Smitty, TJ made a valid point.
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I mean, if Marquez wasn't there, Alex MiTo walked away with the
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championship this year. You know, how, how do you look
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at, at, at that is it, You know, if Mark wasn't on a Ducati,
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would Alex be riding as good as he's riding?
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Or if if Mark wasn't on the bike at all, will Alex been able to
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find his way? OK, so I'm going to add a little
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bit more to it. But according to you, the 25 and
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24 are are totally different bikes, right?
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Bikes. Yeah, according to me, according
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to Ducati, I'm calling you because you always say that's
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why people can't ride it. That's why it's according to
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Ducati, man. I mean, I, I was saying this
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earlier to cut you off and I was saying this earlier to someone.
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I'm like, I don't know why people don't get mad at me when
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I'm right and it's such a thing, man.
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So anyway, back on the point. So having so if Mark was there
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or not, I don't think that has any impact on Alex's performance
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because there's nothing Mark could tell him to help him ride
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his bike better. You see what I'm saying?
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So Alex is kind of his own man right now.
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He don't need his big bro to show him the ropes anymore.
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Follow him around. But TJ, he made some great
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points and I agree, you know, with all of them.
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But to add to more what TJ said, like I enjoy cool stories in
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sports, like to go off script, Like I enjoy seeing LeBron and
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Brownie James playing on the same team.
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Like I enjoy seeing Carmelo's son do good in Syracuse.
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Like I enjoy seeing things like that.
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And it's cool seeing the brothers now be one or two in
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the same class. So it's just the story that's,
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you know, that keeps things in history and these things will go
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on forever. Like, you know, we talked about
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decades from now. It's cool.
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It's cool to witness these these things first hand, you know.
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So, yeah, I agree because I mean, you know, you can look at
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the McEnroe brothers and tennis, but you know, the young, the
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younger McEnroe wasn't like John McEnroe.
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So you know, it, it was different.
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I mean, you know it, you know, Paula Spargro, Alicia Spargro,
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you know, these guys were here already.
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And you know, they both, I believe, have at least one
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races, but, you know, not at the same level of what Alex and Mark
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are doing, you know. What are your thoughts, Reese,
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on what the guy said? And you know, anything you want
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to add on Alex and and Mark Marquez and and being 1 and 2?
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No, I mean Mark and Alex wanted to.
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I mean that's just a great accomplishment.
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It goes down in the record books.
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But even like they don't like you know, TJ it's been he said.
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I mean if Mark wasn't there is still not going to change it.
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I mean, I think Alex still would have been there because you
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could see in the offseason them two were training and I know I
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said they were showing. I think Mark was on like AV4 and
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Alex was crazy enough. It was on an R6.
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So I think, you know, him training with his brother and
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out there learning different lines and learning different
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brake Marks and, you know, being on a different bike.
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And then as you know, like you say, the 24 and 25, it's
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completely different. It just helped Alex, you know, I
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sell that much further along. So I don't think it would have
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been any different. I think if Mark wasn't there.
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I think Alex, this would have been Alex championship for sure.
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OK. I, I, yeah, I mean, that's, I
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don't think any, I don't know anybody that betted on that.
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They would have been, you know, they would have been rich
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because none of, I don't know, I don't think any of us saw that
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at the beginning of the season. But for him to finish and he's
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finishing strong, I mean, that's the best way to to finish out of
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season is, is to finish strong before we before we one more,
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let's say housekeeping. But, you know, before we jump
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into, there was a delay in the Moto GP race, you know, we all
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race at different levels and, and you know, you are, you're on
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a race team at a high level. Reese, you know, when they're
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delays like this, is it on the folks that are hitting the knobs
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and pushing the buttons? Does it mess up a rider's rhythm
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a little bit? Is it, is it no big deal?
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What are your thoughts, TJ 'cause I mean that delay, they
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had riders looking around for a little bit.
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So you got to come off the, the, the, you know, you're a little
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bit relaxed or distracted. Yeah, I mean, I mean, delays are
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always distractions. I mean, especially when you're
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ready to go because you got the butterflies and we just want to
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get going. And a delay kind of like, you
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know, you got to like restart the engine again a little bit.
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It's just as long as you know what's going on so you can like
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better prepare and you know, do your routine, you know, because
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you got to everyone has a routine before going out to
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perform. So it's kind of like your
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routine has to last until it's ready to go.
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So like you don't want to routine to end, still have a few
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minutes to spare. So I think if that throws you
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all slightly. All right, no doubt, Smitty, I
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know you're you're you're locked in so and also sideways.
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So I know you definitely. Hold you.
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It's that Honda thing, man. I know you definitely ain't one
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Honda thing. I don't know what it.
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Does. I don't know why but.
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Because you're on a Honda. You got to you got to reach out
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to race direction. Man, somebody's messing up over
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there. What were you thought?
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Did you notice the delay? Is it no big deal?
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Has that happened to you in a race?
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You know, for one reason or another, maybe a rider just just
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coming to the grid a little bit later than everybody else is a
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part of racing because, you know, everyone is honored to
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grid is dealing with it. It's so funny thing.
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Normally I'm the guy that's lasted the grip.
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So I'm so I'm I'm the delay for everybody else anyway.
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So you are the delay. I mean, but I get it.
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But it's part of racing. Like to me, it's no different
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than you start the racing and then there's a red flag.
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You know, it if it kills the rhythm, it does, but it affects
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no one more than the other. So it just it's part of the
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game. You know, it affects one guy,
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two guys, three guys, all 19 feel the same delay.
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So I don't see it see it as a big deal, you know, got you and,
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and, and no, no need to go see race direction or anything like
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that. Nah, not at all.
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It just happens, you know, you know, I mean, you know, some
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people might have missed their launch, man.
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I mean, the, the Hondas, they struggled to me, they struggled.
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I don't know if that was the reason or not, but I think it
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was a burnt clutch. What are your thoughts, Reese?
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You, you, you, you're in it at a high level.
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You know this cost some riders money, some teams money.
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First of all, I mean, with Smitty, you know, it's got to be
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Smitty being a black person always.
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Dang, then late to the grid. Like really bro?
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Be on time. Nah.
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I mean, we get delays all the time.
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I mean, we'll get delays from the king of the baggers dumping
22:06
oil all over the grid, I mean the track or we'll get somebody
22:09
doing something, a red flag or something.
22:11
We'll get delays all the time. I mean, does it affect the
22:14
riders? I mean, once you get to that
22:16
level of riding, it's kind of like it is what it is.
22:20
They kind of just can kind of not chill out.
22:22
They're still in the game mode, they're still ready to go, but
22:25
they can kind of just kind of there.
22:28
They can. It's almost like they can relax
22:30
a little bit more, like take the little bit of tension off.
22:32
Like especially like there's been time where you see like one
22:35
of our guys, they like they're a little nervous, but they kind of
22:38
take that little bit of edge off and like, I'm ready to go.
22:41
I'm good. You know, sometimes they'll get
22:43
ready late and they need a little bit more time.
22:45
So that little extra delay sometimes does help them a
22:47
little bit. So I mean, it's normal.
22:49
Once you get to that level, it's it's almost normal part of the
22:51
game. Is is there anyone to complain
22:54
to at that at that point or you just it is it it's just more you
23:00
know, you know, just you know, talk after the the racing is
23:04
over. And pretty much talk after the
23:06
race is over. But it's like anything else.
23:08
I mean, we can complain, oh we want, but who the hell is going
23:10
to listen? That's pretty much what it comes
23:13
down to. Who the hell is going to listen?
23:15
You know, race direction? They're like, oh look, we got to
23:17
do this. We got to do this Heckle, you
23:19
know, that's pretty much it. Yeah, pretty crazy, Pretty
23:24
crazy. So let's talk about the race,
23:26
guys. Oh yeah, let's do that with, you
23:29
know, your boy. I'm ready for that one.
23:35
Who's my boy Heckle? The one, the one that's on the
23:41
ground over there that's complaining, you know, the one
23:42
that's always on the ground or they don't finish.
23:44
But you know, like by Lewis said, Oh my beard, I'm not
23:47
running for 3rd or 4th. I'm going to show you how I do
23:49
in 21st or not finished hold my bill on this I got.
23:55
I don't know what he did to you guys.
23:56
I don't know what he did. I think he didn't sign a dice
24:00
with with with Lewis, but I don't I don't I don't know what
24:02
he did to you, Reese, man, come on.
24:05
It happens. We know these things happen in
24:06
in in in racing. But let's let's talk about what
24:09
Bazecki did Acosta, you know, Quatararo and even even Peko
24:15
well, because he was fourth in qualifying.
24:17
A lot of fast laps, a lot of fast riders, you know, you know,
24:22
I've never been to Puerto Mayos, a track that's on my bucket list
24:26
to go to from playing the video games.
24:29
I mean it, it looks really fun to see these guys manhandle the
24:34
track, for lack of a better word, because they really do.
24:37
It was one of these track that they just literally manhandled
24:40
for you guys. Impressed with the qualifying
24:42
times of the top four, top five guys that got into 130 sevens.
24:47
I mean, even in Honda too, Honda's right there.
24:49
That means Zocco is right out of well, you know, he got 38, you
24:53
know, point O9O59. What are your thoughts?
24:58
TTJ on on qualifying and and Aprilia, KTM, Yamaha, Ducati and
25:05
Honda. All 5 brands right there man.
25:09
Yeah, I mean that. I mean, every year these bikes
25:12
are getting faster. I mean, tech's getting better,
25:15
aerodynamics and stuff. But it is just, I mean, every
25:19
time we go to someone setting a new record.
25:21
So it's good to see. And because Zeki's been killing
25:25
it, man. Like, this is funny.
25:27
Like, not to jump subject, but like going into the next round,
25:31
like, people are going to be asking for help because he's the
25:33
one who got gotten this far. But yeah, to see people hit the
25:38
1:30 sevens, like, I mean, this tracks already.
25:41
Like you said, manhandles a roller coaster.
25:44
There's a lot of up downs, left rights, uphill, downhill.
25:48
I mean, like you very you got to be on your game on point,
25:53
especially to pull off something like this.
25:54
Like even just going down that straight away and like their
25:59
breaking marker is like pretty much right as you go down the
26:02
hill. So like to to feather that front
26:05
brake and rear brake just to make turn 1 is already something
26:08
else. But yeah, Zarko and to see all
26:14
the manufacturers get close to that 137 and to be able to talk
26:19
is really good to see just the improvement of the ones that
26:23
haven't been there on yourself. Right, right, Speedy man.
26:28
Now you got a chance to talk. I mean, look, we had five
26:31
different manufacturers in the top five, 6 because I mean 7
26:36
because Honda and and Mirin Zarko was six and seven.
26:41
I mean, Pekko was a top Ducati at Portemayo so I know he his
26:45
finish doesn't do justice, but the boy was still pretty fast.
26:50
Rex. Give it up.
26:53
Stop it, man. I called it last week and I said
26:57
it jokingly that Bulleger will beat Petco and he actually did.
27:02
He did not, he did not time wise.
27:05
He did not who had a high finish.
27:07
I mean, he, he finished cuz the guy crashed out.
27:10
I mean, that's, then that's, then that's beating somebody.
27:13
I, I, I, I know you guys go back and forth with that depending on
27:18
who's your boy and who's not your boy.
27:19
But I, I, I see, I, I'm picking up what you're putting down.
27:22
So, you know, yes, you know, Bulleger, he finished the race.
27:28
So but then also when I want to say in free practice one, his
27:32
times were better than Peckles, I want to say, which is kind of
27:34
normal because you know, no, it's not normal.
27:36
He's always, he's always slowing in the first practice and the
27:41
second and the Sprint and the race, but that's neither here
27:44
nor there. He qualified 4th on the grid
27:47
this time. Yeah.
27:48
So I mean, we, we, we like that's the we can't just skip
27:51
over that part. As slow as you want to say he
27:54
was, he when it it it he he had the speed when it mattered.
27:59
Yo, you defend Pekko like he has a blackmail on you, man.
28:03
No, man, I mean, I think that you know, I don't know what he's
28:06
done to you guys because you know, you all the things that
28:09
you're saying about back Naya, you can say about all the other
28:12
writers, Zarko Meer, Luca, like you can say about all the other
28:17
writers that are that are not one and two.
28:19
I mean, but for some reason he's the only target you guys see.
28:23
So I mean, you know, I you know, I'm just I'm just being fair and
28:26
you know, we're all entitled to a bad season.
28:29
It happens to all the writers and this is his and I hope he
28:32
learned from it and come back strong next year.
28:35
Rex, go ahead. Rex.
28:36
The truth is, I don't hate Pekko at all, but it's fun seeing you
28:40
defend this guy to to your grave, man.
28:42
So, so I just grab that Pekko. I defend all the guys to defend
28:46
him. No, but I, I, you know, I
28:48
defend. I defended Brad Miller, Brad
28:51
Bender when you when you were on him.
28:53
I defended Miller, Jack Miller when when you were talking about
28:56
him, Frankie, I, I mean, I'm the biggest.
28:59
I was the biggest supporter. I'm the biggest supporter of
29:00
Frankie. And you know what I'm saying?
29:03
So. I see, Reese, you're shaking
29:05
your head. So what are you trying to say?
29:06
You're you're on board with what?
29:07
Smitty. Smitty saying You want Pekka's
29:10
payroll, man? Nah, it wouldn't go that far,
29:12
man. It's we, we, we.
29:14
If we all go ahead, go ahead. I mean, I agree with Smitty 100%
29:21
man. I mean, I think you are on
29:25
Pekka's payroll or something, man.
29:27
But I think it's just I don't hate the guy.
29:32
I don't, I don't hate the guy. I don't hate even Jorge Martin.
29:37
Just don't get it twisted. I don't hate neither one of
29:39
those guys. The problem with those two guys
29:41
is they're they got bigger than what they thought they were.
29:46
And now that somebody's on a level playing field as them,
29:50
their true colors and true self is really showing.
29:53
They're not that that person. You're not, as we used to call
29:57
it, the alien. You're not that, you're not
29:59
that. You're not that type of rider
30:01
that you put a better rider on the same caliber bike.
30:05
You're getting your doors blown off.
30:07
But and you feel that they said that other people said they were
30:11
aliens. No, they, I'm not saying they
30:14
someone thought they were alien. They said they were that type of
30:17
rider. Yeah.
30:19
OK. All right.
30:19
I see what? I see what you're saying, but
30:21
it's not. Like the way they, the way they
30:24
carried themselves, the way they were walking around like I'm the
30:27
shit, I'm this, I'm that, like, you know, you're not.
30:30
And they were for the for that period of time.
30:34
Because there was nobody else on, nobody else on their level
30:37
yet on that bikes level. But, and, but, you know, in all
30:41
fairness, isn't that how you're supposed to kind of walk as a,
30:43
as a top tier rider? If you're a top tier rider, you
30:46
got two World Championships and, and, you know, and you're going
30:49
for 1/3. I mean, I, I, I you can't have.
30:54
You can, but here here's the thing.
30:56
It's the same thing. Like if you want to relate it to
30:58
basketball, Jordan never wanted to play with the other best
31:02
guys. He wanted to beat them.
31:04
So they haven't beat the best guys yet.
31:09
But it took, they were, it took Jordan 6 years to I don't think,
31:13
I don't think Petco is going to leave Ducati and I hope he
31:15
doesn't leave Ducati. So I, I hope he does stick
31:17
around and, and get the opportunity to stick around to,
31:21
you know, come back and, and maybe challenge Marquez, right?
31:24
And and Alex Marquez, because those are the guys to beat at
31:27
the moment. OK.
31:28
But now you said Jordan took Jordan six years.
31:30
But Jordan had a come up into his own character, his own life.
31:34
Same thing with. Petco, what he's doing right
31:36
now. But he's already came up, so if
31:38
you look at Moto 3, Moto 22, that counts as your years.
31:42
Right. I see what you're saying, but it
31:44
it's almost like, you know, to go back, keep it a basketball.
31:47
You look at Kobe Bryant after Shaq left, he had to find his
31:50
way to get two more rings and he had to go to the mountains.
31:53
So I I think it's something like that.
31:55
I think it's something like that for him, for Petco and I think a
31:58
Martine in a different way because he got hurt.
32:00
But it's like dolls or the OR the Djokovic.
32:04
I won't say Pecos like a Federer, but I but those guys
32:07
had to go and and go sort it out and come back.
32:11
You know, I'm saying Paul Pierce had to go and sort it out and
32:13
come back. And I think and I and I hope
32:15
this year is that for any person, they regardless if it's
32:18
Petco anyone, then you have a tough year.
32:20
You, you, you double down and you know, you, you pivot and you
32:23
do what you're supposed to do for next year.
32:25
And hopefully, you know, you'll you'll be singing the praises or
32:28
drinking the champagne. It doesn't always work like
32:30
that, but you know that's the idea, right?
32:33
Right. That's the idea.
32:35
I mean, that's always the idea, but I mean, at the point are,
32:41
are they going to be that, you know, coming up the coming
32:43
years, are they going to actually be on the mountaintop?
32:47
It's for them. It's like, you don't know,
32:49
right? I mean, you know, some may say
32:51
why you don't know. I mean that that's the whole
32:53
thing. I mean, no one knows until they
32:56
go out there and try and, and, and so, I mean, that's the
32:59
beautiful thing about whatever one is trying to do in life.
33:02
We don't know. I, I hope so because it would be
33:04
a good story to tell because you know, as, as, as a professional
33:08
or anything, you, you want to beat everybody.
33:10
You know, you know that you might not want to talk about it,
33:13
but you definitely want to beat everybody.
33:15
Right. You want to beat everybody, but
33:18
can you beat everybody? It depends you only.
33:23
Can. You know.
33:24
You can't beat Marquez. That's the problem.
33:27
I'll say this, Djokovic had to change his diet to be able to
33:32
hang and and beat Nadal and and beat Federer.
33:35
He had to. He literally had to become a
33:36
different person. So it's up to whoever it is.
33:40
In the case of of of of Petco, it's up to him to whatever he
33:44
may have to do in the offseason. I can't tell him how to get back
33:47
there. You got a better shot of telling
33:48
him, telling him how to get back there than I do.
33:51
But he's surrounded by Rossi and and a great team.
33:54
So if anyone can come back to the mountain top, it would be
33:59
him, you know what I'm saying? And who knows?
34:02
Because Bez and we will move on because we've been we've been on
34:04
that a little bit. You know, Bez is looking the way
34:06
he's looking. So it may be too late because
34:09
you know, Bez, you know, why is Bez going to fall back right now
34:13
next season? I mean, he's the guy that looks
34:15
like he can take it to Marquez. So at the end of the day, it may
34:19
be too late because again, when there's blood in the water,
34:22
other people step up. So TJ, what are your thoughts on
34:25
how Bez did this weekend? I mean, he didn't win the
34:27
Sprint. He won the main race and he won
34:29
it like in style and fashion, as they say.
34:34
What are your thoughts? Yeah, he's killing me, man.
34:38
Like he's definitely holding the player down.
34:41
I mean, especially, you know, they're down.
34:44
Martine and Ralph Fernandez was out.
34:46
So like, you know, it's just, you know, he's just showing that
34:51
he can be that number one guy. I mean, I know we were just
34:54
talking about Petco and not to jump back on him real quick, but
34:59
I think he just being a front runner for his championships and
35:04
now finally a real ride to come back like Marc Marquez and being
35:07
his teammate, it kind of just slapped him in the face.
35:10
Nothing's going well. You need to change up your your
35:14
regimen and everything to compete better, you know, just
35:17
to fit in and that Zeki and, you know, had a slightly tough
35:22
beginning of the year and just figure that bike out with no
35:25
help. What his mechanics and coaches
35:27
like felt like he even really have a teammate to really fall
35:31
back on and to pull out the podiums he's has.
35:34
And it's just very impressive. And it shows that what he can do
35:38
when he gets a better package, I'm sure he can handle any bike
35:42
given to him. He's kind of getting on that
35:44
level of, you know, a championship rider, so hopefully
35:48
one day he didn't be a champion, but very impressive for that
35:53
opperia. Right, no doubt.
35:56
Smitty, what are your thoughts on Bez affiliate was just him
36:01
and Iagura this round. I mean, these riders when they
36:04
get hurt, they they missing some rounds this year.
36:06
It's it's it's pretty wild. Do you think that Bez has enough
36:11
to carry this momentum into next season to I mean, he's he's top
36:16
three in the championship, barring something incredible
36:20
happened in the last round. So there's only two people in
36:22
front of Bez and it's not something we thought would have
36:24
happened at the beginning of the season.
36:27
And you know, what are your thoughts?
36:31
OK, so I think Best could win the next round in Valencia.
36:34
Shit, that's like in two days. Couple days, yes.
36:37
But in terms of next season's, the momentum, I don't believe in
36:41
that at all. Because what happens in
36:44
Valencia, next year's a brand new bike anyway.
36:46
You know, they're going to change too many things and like,
36:50
you don't know the direction of the bike.
36:51
The same way to Ducati from the 24 to 25 is different.
36:55
Mark loves it. Some guys don't so so here's a
36:59
bike next year. I don't know, but as of right
37:01
now best found at 7th gear that he just showing the yo, I should
37:06
have been up front a long time ago.
37:08
The bike got sorted out. But also to add to that, I think
37:13
that kind of fucks with Martini that he's like, OK, you know, I
37:18
should be the number one guy. I'm the champion from last year
37:22
and now this guy's kind of make me feel you know like forgot
37:25
about all almost you know so that's the part we put it that I
37:29
kind of want to see what what happens with Bez and Martine
37:32
next year. Right.
37:34
Do you think it's a good idea for Martine to come back the
37:37
last round or should he just wait till next year?
37:39
Just wait. There's no point I mean for what
37:41
data. I mean there's no point at all
37:43
honestly, you know you come back, you will finish on the
37:46
5th. OK, looks good, but it had
37:48
nothing to do with next year at all.
37:49
Just stay out He'll but it could.
37:53
I mean, he has nothing to win by coming back but a whole lot to
37:57
lose like coming back because Bez beats in which he probably
38:01
would just have just having more seat time.
38:03
It ain't gonna look good. You know, I'm watching.
38:07
So yeah, Reece, what are your thoughts on Aprilia Martine
38:12
coming back after the after before the last round?
38:15
Should he? What would you expect a rider
38:17
to? Does it matter the last round
38:19
before next season? Is it, is it kind of like I'm a
38:23
show up to the last part, last tour like John?
38:25
I don't want to call out any singers, you know, I'm a show to
38:29
the last date on the tour. Miss the bulk of the stuff
38:32
because since you guys are doing so good now, I'll come out and
38:36
get some flowers too. What are your thoughts on what
38:38
Bez is doing? As I was saying, we're talking
38:41
about with with Petco. I mean, you know, Bez look like
38:44
he could, you know, challenge mark next year.
38:47
Do do you buy into that you're you're closer to the stuff than
38:50
we are? I mean, I do buy into it.
38:53
I mean, he could with Jorge coming back the last round.
38:58
I mean, I mean, the only thing you can come back for some data,
39:01
you know, to kind of get your get ready to come for next
39:04
season because you'll probably be on a little break for before
39:06
the next test. So I can see that.
39:09
But it's kind of like Smitty said, it's really no point
39:11
because you can get hurt. So just kind of sit down and get
39:13
ready for the test. I mean, that's, I think there's
39:16
a Valencia test, what like the next week after.
39:19
So I noticed one test, but just to come back for the last round
39:26
and kind of just sit out, man. I mean, you're not going to gain
39:29
anything. You're not going to know
39:30
anything because knowing Aprilia, they're going to change
39:34
the bike around a little bit. Things are going to change.
39:37
So there's really kind of no point, I mean, unless you're
39:39
just getting your flow back. Right, right.
39:43
Yeah, as. I say, hasn't he crashed the
39:49
first round? He came back, he crashed and
39:52
then he came back again. I think he did OK and he got the
39:56
Martinator's back and then it got messed up again or something
39:59
like that. So I think I think he should
40:02
just sit out like you said, but I'm sure they get enough time
40:05
before testing stuff where they can cycle or something.
40:08
But. Right, right.
40:10
Just stay out. I agree.
40:11
I'm going to bring this question to Smitty first because I know
40:15
you got to get out of here. Get out of here, Smitty, give me
40:19
a, you know, Alex. Alex Bizecki and Acosta and and
40:24
even some of those other guys, how how much fun was it to watch
40:27
in the Sprint race and the main race and, and how they competed
40:31
because those guys like, you know, they were above and beyond
40:35
everyone else. It was fun to see because I'm
40:38
dying to see Pedro get a win final, you know, and I thought
40:40
he would have it in the Sprint. He was close and it fell behind
40:44
and same thing. The GP is like he has the pace
40:46
to win a race but he just can't finish the race.
40:48
And I don't, I don't understand how somebody could be that fast
40:51
for the first half and maybe it's the bike.
40:54
And also from standpoint of how bikes work, I never understood
40:59
why a bike is good in the first half and bad second-half.
41:03
Or good or bad. Go ahead, go ahead.
41:07
That's not I'll answer your I'll answer your question when you
41:09
when you're done, no. Go ahead, good.
41:13
Some curious, let's know why bikes do that.
41:15
Like some bikes are good to start, finish bad, some start
41:18
bad finish good. Why is that?
41:20
It's the way the setup is, so the setup can be good for the
41:24
bike with the chassis with fresh tires.
41:28
Once the the tires start wearing off, it's not set up for it.
41:33
And that's where Marquez excels at.
41:36
He sets the bike up more for when the tires drop.
41:41
So when the tires drop, you're not getting a lot of that, you
41:45
know, movement and everything else.
41:47
He he, he is set up for that. You get what I'm saying?
41:52
So a lot of people don't, they'll set the bike up for the
41:56
beginning or the middle when Marquez sets it up for the
42:00
ending, so. Pedro got to change the setup.
42:04
Yeah, or it just, it's just like how Yamaha said that where the
42:07
bike is not, it just wears out the tire too fast and it's just
42:11
like it's not, it's not good, OK.
42:13
I I think it's I think that's what's happening and they're
42:15
hoping to resolve that is the tires don't last and he's doing
42:20
he's doing and I don't know if he's still riding with a little
42:23
electronics, but you know, he's had to ride with like Littleton
42:26
electronics to be finishing where he's finishing.
42:29
Got you. So I do that run fellows.
42:33
Good chat with you guys. All right, man, peace out, man.
42:37
It's always a pleasure. Adios, Pete Smitty.
42:41
I got something on that. See if Reese can answer this.
42:44
So like, yeah, Bryce, Bryce, good in the beginning and they
42:49
fade off to the end. Or like instead of how you
42:52
saying Mark can make his riding ability have the bike be fine
42:57
towards the end of the race. But like this, is there such
43:02
thing as a rider saving saving tire to the end but still
43:07
keeping pace? You know what I'm saying?
43:08
So like, I'm sure you can save the tire a little bit and by the
43:12
end of the race you'd be like, oh, I could have used more of
43:14
it. But like as far as the pace
43:17
thing, like obviously if you try to push more, you might use the
43:19
tire even though if you're trying to save it.
43:21
So like is there such thing as saving the tire towards the end
43:26
of the race? You can save it.
43:31
I don't know how much you're going to you, you're going to
43:34
save enough to still be able to push you get what I'm saying?
43:39
So you can save it a little bit. I mean, you can, you can save a
43:46
little bit. Because what they're going to do
43:48
is they're going to give you know, about a good 100%
43:51
beginning of the race. And then what they're going to
43:54
do once they kind of start settling, they're going to back
43:57
it down and maintain that pace. They're just going to maintain.
44:01
They're not pushing us. They're not pushing that hard
44:03
yet. So now when the last 10 laps
44:07
come, now they're going to start turning up.
44:09
They're going to push harder on the front, they're going to
44:11
start pushing the rear. And it's just going to wear that
44:13
that tire out. They're going to give everything
44:16
a tire. Yeah.
44:17
I suspect it also depends how the start of the race go because
44:20
if they can, if they now front versus starting in the middle
44:23
and if they starting in the middle, how quickly can they get
44:26
up front to where they want to be and then and then get into
44:29
that conservation mode. Right.
44:32
Because if you're falling in the back, now you're trying to push
44:34
to get back up front or you fall back behind or whatever.
44:37
So it just depends on where you're at too.
44:41
Yeah, you know, it, it's crazy. I, I, I feel for the dude and,
44:46
you know, because, I mean, I think him and you know, him and
44:48
Quatararo, Mayor Zarko, you know, probably even Luca, right?
44:55
These are guys that, and not to say all these guys don't want to
44:58
win, but they're, they're, they're pretty much, you know,
45:01
chucking the bike down the road to get everything they can out
45:05
of these bikes. And, you know, I, I, I feel for
45:08
this guy because it's just kind of like if he was on a different
45:11
manufacturer, you know, but at this point, Arrolio or Ducati
45:16
Pedro, you know, he, he, he may be the person we're saying
45:21
Marquez needs to be. I say, yeah, I mean, he he's
45:28
that type of rider. I mean, Acosta is a great rider.
45:33
I mean, he still he's coming up. I mean, I'm not not going to say
45:37
he's where the Marquez is, but he he can show some some talent
45:42
and the way he's riding that bike.
45:44
So, yeah, so let's talk about the three of them.
45:47
You know, you guys did get a chance to talk about that, how
45:49
they were in the Sprint and in the main race.
45:52
It was enjoying to watch. You know, these are these are
45:55
young heads. These are not the veterans that
45:56
we're used to seeing. I mean, I know Moto GP looks a
45:59
lot different in the last five years than the previous 10.
46:03
So what are you, what are your thoughts, TJ on on just, you
46:05
know, watching the race, see, you know, you know, looking at
46:08
Bez Acosta Bagnaya, Alex Marquez and and seeing these guys like
46:14
these are the these these are the future.
46:17
Yeah, I mean, it's like you said what what Smitty was saying, I
46:22
wanted to see Acosta finally, you know, get on the podium
46:25
because it's time's running out. You know, you want to, you want
46:28
to, you want to get up, get up there.
46:30
You know, you try so hard. You he he is that caliber
46:34
writer. I mean he's that he's definitely
46:36
a writer that can show improvement and and work on
46:41
routines and stuff like that. He's just each city has that
46:43
focus in them and it just sucks that Al together had to get one
46:49
before him. So, you know, it's just, it was
46:52
really good to see like in the Sprint race, them three, they
46:56
finished within .6 of the second.
47:01
So it's pretty, pretty cool to see just three battling up the
47:08
front just for the whole race, you know, without backing off
47:11
and stuff like that. There was one point, I don't
47:14
know if it was the Sprint or the GP race, when three of them went
47:19
downturned, one together and like kind of crisscross, you
47:22
know? And it's just like, who, who's
47:24
going to, who's going to give, you know?
47:26
And it's just for all of them to keep it together and still keep
47:31
pace. It's just like, yeah, this is
47:32
the future, you know, it's cool to see that we got some good
47:36
riders out there. Right, right.
47:38
No doubt, man. Reese with your thoughts man,
47:40
watching the race and and seeing these young boys throw these
47:43
bikes around. I mean, I was watching them and
47:46
it was actually amazing. That Sprint race was I think the
47:50
Sprint race was better than the Dang on better than the the the
47:55
actual race. I think it was better than the
47:57
actual race. I mean to watch it was back and
48:00
forth, back and forth, back and forth.
48:02
And I was just like, Jesus Christ, I was like, who's going
48:04
to actually want to take this? So I mean these three, these
48:08
young guys coming up is our future of Moto GP.
48:11
You know what I mean? They are our future, and I think
48:14
it's going to be something to watch in the upcoming years.
48:17
You know, I definitely think it's going to be something.
48:20
Yeah, I agree. Well, let's move to Honda, man.
48:23
I mean, you know, hey, Mia, It's it's like we're cheering for
48:30
him. We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:32
And now we got gremlins like what?
48:35
Aprilia? What happened to Aprilia the
48:37
last few years with LH and Venialas and stuff.
48:42
I mean, you know, you know, you're, you're working on world
48:47
Super bike mode, America World Super bikes.
48:50
I mean, is it that easy? I wouldn't say easy.
48:54
I mean the start of a race. You can fly fry your clutch.
48:58
Yes, yes you can fry the hell out of that clutch man.
49:04
Depends on how it's set up, when, how much play it has in
49:10
it, if it's still in it. Or some people are just hard on
49:13
the clutch and some people aren't.
49:15
Some people are very easy. It's just you can fry the hell
49:18
out of it man. I've seen people fry it in the
49:20
first initial start. Over the years I've seen it.
49:23
I'm just like up Kurtz of the clone.
49:25
Right. I mean, you know it, it's A and
49:29
like, like, like like, you know, I got you guys must have said to
49:31
Bobby in the moment, you know, you can't see all the positive
49:35
when something goes wrong. I mean, you know, you know,
49:39
Olivier is different because he was getting injured and mirror
49:42
was just crashing a lot. He like, you know, mirror had
49:44
this glimpse of like, OK, the Honda's doing everything and
49:48
everything and then you have these mechanicals.
49:51
Is is it for a rider? Is it is a biggest set back or
49:54
is it just kind of like it's, it's just part of racing and,
49:57
and the bike is there. We're there.
49:59
It it, it will. We'll we'll we just keep moving
50:02
and take our lumps. I mean, nobody wants to take
50:09
their lumps, man. Nobody wants, I mean, but it, it
50:12
comes to a point where, you know, depending on the season, I
50:15
mean, we, we do our best, you know, and I mean, in the
50:19
beginning, we're all coming out there to win.
50:20
You come with the expectation of the win and you know, 3/4 of the
50:24
way. And now depending on where we're
50:26
at, we're trying to make the best of the season.
50:28
That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to make the best
50:30
of the season. Right, right.
50:33
TJ, what do you have thoughts on Honda?
50:35
And you know, it's, I mean, I, I would say that the third I would
50:41
say because there's more riders being more consistent than KTM
50:44
did it, did it. I did a third best manufacturer
50:48
in this in this year, even though it may not look like it
50:51
on paper. I mean, I give it to them.
50:54
They definitely have made their steps.
50:57
I think they've gotten some contingency taken away from them
51:01
because they've done a lot of done a little better and yeah,
51:06
it's a good day going in the right direction.
51:08
But now they're just like up and down, up and down.
51:11
And now in qualifying and and practice, they they look really
51:16
nice. And when it comes to the race,
51:18
it's like a flaw. Not to mention Juan Mir having
51:22
his festivities of either mechanical or falling.
51:26
And I think it's hard to support a manufacturer to pay like, you
51:30
know, they're paying a rider and he's just never finishing.
51:33
And you know, obviously it's just bad luck, but it's kind of
51:38
like it's hard to get more results.
51:41
Like you can't, you can't win any money because you never can
51:46
get a rider to finish. So but they are moving in the
51:49
right steps. There's just just bad luck to
51:54
have Joe Armida again to not finish it at all.
51:58
Right, No, it is it, it's huge. And you know, as I'm thinking
52:02
about the next topics to talk about, I think it's, you know,
52:06
it's VR46 Academy and all four Yamahas.
52:10
I mean like, it's like, come on, which one you guys don't want to
52:16
win? I mean, I know, I know Quatro
52:19
Robert is trying. I know Miller is trying.
52:21
It doesn't seem like I know they're all trying, but it it
52:24
it's just, you know, they can't catch a break.
52:27
I mean, I guess let's do, let's start with VR46.
52:30
I mean, you know, like Frankie, he he, he like he can't get out
52:34
of his own way and he's a lot better than the beginning of the
52:39
season. But now it's just because of the
52:41
beginning of the season, all not beginning, but you know, most of
52:43
the season, the end, the the things that he's gotten himself
52:46
into, every little thing now seems like it's the worst.
52:51
But it's it's really you know, I'll say this.
52:55
What does Frankie have to do next year to stay in Moto GP?
52:59
And I'll answer that. And then just, you know, how the
53:02
VR46 Academy did both of them because did you didn't have his
53:05
best weekend either. And you know, Grazini is is a
53:10
much better team, I think at the moment as far as where to finish
53:14
it in the standings than the the VR46 Academy.
53:17
What are your thoughts, TJ? I mean, I don't think his
53:23
bonehead movements will ever go away 'cause it's usually just in
53:28
your blood. But I do think that he probably
53:32
just needs to get in better shape than he is.
53:35
I feel like he gets a little fatigued.
53:37
I don't know if it's just his dryness now, but he likes to
53:40
throw himself into riders to get a little bump as like, I don't
53:45
know, a. Push off.
53:46
Yeah, like a little push off this, I don't know what it is,
53:49
but like it's sometimes it's just the moves that he makes.
53:53
It's just like, whoa, Frankie, like even the one he crashed
53:56
going down the hill, like, I don't know, he like he was given
54:00
too much. And if you're on the inside
54:02
like, you should know already that this is not going to work
54:05
before you do it. Like, I don't know.
54:08
I'm not. I'm not saying Top Rock is a
54:10
better writer than Frankie, but Frankie is trying to do things.
54:13
Top Rock. We see Top Rock do and get away
54:15
with it and Frankie tries them, but he's not getting away with
54:18
them. Yeah, no, he's not getting away
54:24
with them. Yeah.
54:25
Representing VR46 and just keeping a seat.
54:28
I think that he just should be in better shape going into the
54:31
season where he can just try to stay up front because he he has
54:35
his on and off clips and sometimes you like, oh,
54:39
Frankie's back and and then he gets a penalty for telling the
54:44
marshals that no, I want to go back on the track like or
54:47
something like that. It's just like stitches, stuff
54:49
like that, like that cost you a longer pound.
54:51
You like, you know I don't. Know I I I agree.
54:55
What are your thoughts on VR46 Academy or V for the six race
54:59
team race and what Frankie's doing?
55:01
And you know, I think I don't think did you, I know Diggio's
55:04
heard a little bit this year, I believe memory serves correct.
55:08
So I think they're both on the chopping block for next year.
55:12
I don't think I need any either riders.
55:15
You know, I think if I was, you know, management, I'm like, all
55:18
right, we know we want Pedro. So we're going to break the bank
55:22
for Pedro if he does want to come over and and these guys are
55:25
going to have to fight it out next season, right?
55:28
I mean, pretty much, yeah. I mean, they're going to fight
55:30
it out. I mean, Frankie's Frankie needs
55:34
to be in top five. He's got to be top five or
55:37
better. You know, he needs to finish
55:38
some races, not have so many penalties.
55:41
That's number one. You know, he's got to do that
55:43
and he's got to finish top five, maybe win him one or two.
55:47
I'm not going to say like a multiple, but one or two, but
55:49
he's definitely got to finish top five, you know, and not
55:52
crash as much. And like I said, not have so
55:54
many penalties and just peckers, you know, your boy.
55:58
We just got to figure out what the problem is.
56:01
And I think, but I think once they getting around and they get
56:04
to the problem, I think they'll, I think they'll be all right.
56:07
I mean, they'll always be a top 10 contender.
56:11
You know, I just, you got to, as the word says, you got to be
56:15
more consistent. Right, right.
56:19
And so let's talk about Yamaha. You know, Rin's, I mean, not
56:23
Rin's Quatarara he, I mean, I, you know, you can't say anything
56:27
bad about the dude. You can't say he ain't trying,
56:30
you know, but like, I mean, you know, Jack Miller looks like
56:35
he's happy, but they got to be some frustration.
56:38
As we know Olivera is leaving and and is that I you know, I
56:42
think Smitty mentioned he didn't know why Miller stayed, but I
56:45
think Miller is just a more seasoned rider that to help top
56:50
rock next year than than Olivera.
56:53
And, and you know, and I think Miller did a few things, but
56:56
what are you, what are your thoughts on where Yamaha is?
56:59
There's definitely some struggles still.
57:01
And, you know, we hopefully they'll fix it next year because
57:05
this year's rough. It's just a question mark right
57:13
now because they're moving over to the the B4, right, so.
57:18
No 27, man, we got one more year.
57:20
Oh yeah, so. Housing.
57:21
So we got next year, man. Oh yeah.
57:24
Yeah, but I mean like I'm also like they, they, they, I'm
57:28
afraid to him that Fabio might move on also because like to be
57:33
honest, Fabio on another manufacturer, I think he'll be a
57:36
really good brand, especially be if he gets on a Ducati then
57:40
some. Trouble.
57:42
I mean for this. Go ahead, I.
57:45
Was going to say for this man to pull out for this bike to be as
57:48
bad as it is to pull out all the pole positions that he has.
57:54
Yeah, the bike can't make race distance, but fast lap is a fast
57:59
lap. I mean like he's showing he can
58:01
do it. Not none of the other riders
58:03
have lens is always in the back. Like you said, Jack Miller just
58:08
happy he crashing a lot and Miguel's half in half out and
58:13
it's just they need a better team matters and better package.
58:18
And you don't want to lose Fabio because then you not going to
58:21
have nothing. And he's he's showing all he got
58:24
in here. Right, Reese, I mean, where's
58:26
Fabio going to go? I mean, I, I see things on
58:29
social media like Aprilia. I mean, I, I know, I mean the
58:33
only person they can get rid of out of Aprilia is Martine.
58:36
And if Martine does halfway decent, who they going to get
58:38
rid of? Like there's there's no places
58:40
for Techo to go and there's no place for a couple to go where
58:45
they going to go. I don't know where they're going
58:48
to go, man, be honest with you. There's nowhere really for you
58:51
to go. But I mean, I get his
58:54
frustration, but this is the last year of the one thousands,
58:58
I mean, coming up. So it means like they're going
59:02
to the eight 50s. So yeah, so just enjoy Next.
59:05
Season just enjoy it and like you know, everyone's talking
59:08
about the V4, the V4 and how they doing it.
59:11
I mean I can be honest, they're probably going to keep the V4 in
59:13
the market and drop a cylinder and make it an 850.
59:16
That's all you can do right, right.
59:18
You know so it's I mean just enjoy the last year.
59:24
Where you going to go? And then you're going to 27.
59:28
Yeah, everybody starts to clock all over.
59:29
It's just it's a whole reset. So it's like, yeah, I can
59:32
understand I'm getting frustrated, but where the hell
59:35
you going? Now, I agree there's no,
59:38
there's, like I said, there's no place really to go.
59:39
And you know, there's no, I'm not.
59:43
I'm not ready to sit here and say until Prolia wins A
59:47
championship, you know, we can just say it's the second best
59:50
bike on the grid or the third best bike on the grid.
59:52
We can, like we can't give Aprilia more credit than that
59:54
until they win a championship. So, you know, Yamaha's proven,
59:58
Honda's proven and Ducati's proven.
1:00:00
But, you know, maybe Qatarara can go to Honda.
1:00:04
Maybe. No, I think he would probably go
1:00:07
to more of a prior to Aprilia maybe.
1:00:12
Satellite Aprilia, like, I mean, they, I mean, they're not going
1:00:15
to give up Baz, Baz. No, you won't give up bed.
1:00:20
The only person you give up is Jorge.
1:00:22
Yeah, you know, and that's the only person you're going to give
1:00:25
up. I agree.
1:00:28
You don't want to be there anyway.
1:00:30
Well, no, boy, he wants to go to Honda.
1:00:33
No, I, I. I, I think he, I think he wants
1:00:35
to, you know what I'm saying? You know, I think I think he I
1:00:38
think I think after what Martine has seen Bez do, I think he's
1:00:45
looking differently at that, at that, at that bike.
1:00:48
You know, and I and I think his woes that he had in the
1:00:51
beginning, you can't you you get like Martine, I mean, Bazecki
1:00:57
showed you that like this bike can win.
1:01:00
Raul showed you that this bike can win.
1:01:01
I Guru showed you that this bike can go fast.
1:01:05
And I think for Aya Guru, he just keeps getting hurt.
1:01:07
Like if he was healthy, he he might have been closer in the
1:01:10
rookie championship, rookie fighting for rookie of the year
1:01:15
with with reforming, because at the beginning of the year it was
1:01:18
his to lose until he got hurt. So you know, so that's the crazy
1:01:22
part as far as you know where these guys are going to go.
1:01:25
So these rumors are rumors, but it is what it is.
1:01:29
So what do I got before I get out of here?
1:01:30
Let's I guess KTM and then we get out of here because it is
1:01:35
it's that witch an hour. You know, we already talked
1:01:39
about Acosta, what he's doing. You know, how about these other
1:01:41
three guys? Venialis is going to be come
1:01:43
back for the last round as well. So that should be interesting to
1:01:46
see. I will say for KTM, Polo Spa
1:01:50
Girl impressed me a lot because he, he's was consistent the
1:01:53
whole weekend. I, I know Brad was fighting for
1:01:56
everything and, and he's probably fighting for a career
1:01:58
and stuff like that. What are your thoughts on where
1:02:01
KTM is? Is Acosta enough for KTM to see
1:02:05
him be like we're we're, we're, we're we're #3?
1:02:10
I mean, I mean, like I said, KTM has been up and down all year
1:02:16
and especially what they've been going through start of the
1:02:20
season with their brand. Like it's just like you said, we
1:02:25
need a Maverick to be around to to make them have a better year.
1:02:29
I think they'll be OK, but I don't think they're going to be
1:02:32
putting a lot of money into their bikes next year.
1:02:37
That's what I thought I heard. But but you know, like Brad
1:02:44
Bender definitely needs to show more improvement.
1:02:47
Like I think he did OK this weekend.
1:02:49
He got over a 6th place, but you know what?
1:02:54
They're still just 5th place. They're still on the struggle
1:03:00
busting thing though. It's just like when they, like
1:03:02
Pedro showed his effort that they can fight.
1:03:07
It's certain tracks, but it's just, I don't know, it's just
1:03:13
for them to be better, better than Aprilia and like it's going
1:03:19
to be be hard to me because they ain't doing anything like an A
1:03:23
is not putting in no work. Yeah, yeah, Maverick has been
1:03:28
hurt. And yeah, it's just, it's just.
1:03:33
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. What are your thoughts Reese on
1:03:37
on KTMS and and you know what are the third best bike on the
1:03:41
grid? I mean, right now I would say
1:03:44
yes, they are the third best bike on the grid versus Honda
1:03:47
and Yamaha. I mean, Yamaha and Honda still
1:03:50
in the back. Honda's further along than
1:03:52
Yamaha. But I mean with Bizeki, not
1:03:58
Bizeki Bassini, he's got to show more improvement a whole lot.
1:04:03
So so Bender, I mean, Bender has been there way too long.
1:04:06
It's like he's almost like stalemate, you know, he just
1:04:09
can't he can't get above to that next level.
1:04:12
And you know, Acosta's came in and took it, took it over with
1:04:18
Vinales coming back. I mean, that's going to give
1:04:21
some more some more leeway with the bike, you know, some more
1:04:25
technology, some more work and some more R and DI mean because
1:04:29
I think he was the best developer for the bike.
1:04:32
You know, I think he was like that.
1:04:34
Like, you know, in basketball you have that one veteran.
1:04:36
I think he was that. I think he was that vet.
1:04:40
I. Agree.
1:04:42
I mean, just hopefully next year they can come along.
1:04:44
And like I said, same thing with TJI, don't think they're going
1:04:47
to invest a lot of money into it right now until things come
1:04:50
along. But you know, I think, I think
1:04:53
they'll be OK. OK, Yeah, we'll see.
1:04:56
I mean, we're looking forward to it.
1:04:58
Let's who do you guys pick for for a second?
1:05:01
I. Say, do you think Mara should
1:05:03
come back this last race just like Jorge deal or is it for the
1:05:07
fans? I think.
1:05:08
He should. No, I think he should.
1:05:10
I mean, I'll give him some kind of know how to see how the
1:05:15
shoulders, Yeah, they'll get some assessment on the shoulder.
1:05:18
Right. Yeah.
1:05:20
Who you guys think you're going to win next?
1:05:21
The last round, I still got Bazecki, Acosta and Fermi.
1:05:28
Fermi Algae, Alto beer and Alex Marquez Alto beer.
1:05:32
I got Bazecki or Alex winning. OK, being real, yeah.
1:05:38
You thoughts DJI? Mean with the momentum from
1:05:42
going one week to next week, I think it's going to be possibly
1:05:45
the same three guys, Pedro, Alex and the executives.
1:05:52
So don't know who's going to take it.
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I don't know if Pedro's probably going to pull his victory off
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last round of the season. We'll see, but I think that's
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probably pull it off. All right, all right, no doubt.
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Before we get out of here, one last thing I got to ask your
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thoughts on World Super bike announced that Jonathan Ray is
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going to be a test rider for Honda six time world champions.
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We have said, you know, people like Michael Jordan can't coach
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teams and stuff like this. Is this a good look for Honda
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signed in the six time champion to be the guy that makes you go
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fast? Yes.
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Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I definitely say it's a
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good look for him. No doubt my name is Rex 45.
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It's to be forever. Cool podcast.
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We got Reese from Itaki Yamaha. We got TJ with tubes and coffee.
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Peace.