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"Due Process" (FTTxJT Thu 092426 hr1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: This is Independence from Virginia, again, first thing today, by
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Joe works at a steel mill, he's damn near every day.
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  Speaker 2: Leaves for work when the sun comes up, drops a.
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  Speaker 3: Kid to school and on the way.
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  Speaker 2: Joe has everything he dreamed of, all the treasures that
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  Speaker 2: he needs. No wonder Joe's always smiling, he only aims
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  Speaker 2: to please you.
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  Speaker 4: just a scene set, but then we get on into
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  Speaker 4: our first things which we have for you. There's so
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  Speaker 4: much going on. Here's a question for you, though, as
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  Speaker 4: an abstract. J.D. Vance or Rand Paul? Because Rand Paul
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  Speaker 4: in after they say that. It's all too cute by half.
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  Speaker 4: But Rand Paul saying he wants to run for president
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  Speaker 4: in 2028. So we'll see if that turns into anything.
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  Speaker 4: Iran's president leads our first things this morning. Sounding much
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  Speaker 4: like John Gotti used to sound when he would tell
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  Speaker 4: the New York press, I'm just a businessman. What people
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  Speaker 4: President Massoud Rajikian said, we're the victims of terrorism, we're
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  Speaker 4: not terrorists, he told the General Assembly, holding up pictures
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  Speaker 4: of the schoolchildren whose deaths are being investigated by the
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  Speaker 4: first wave of strikes. President Trump rolled out the red
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  Speaker 4: four senators... including Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn of Texas, Lisa
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  Speaker 4: with the president and Treasury Secretary Scott Besant came out
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  Speaker 4: and said that the United States and China have agreed
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  Speaker 4: to extend their trade their trade truce until January 10th.
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  Speaker 4: The two sides agreed to extend what is called the
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  Speaker 4: Federal judge in Washington, D.C. questioned whether the administration provided
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  Speaker 4: due process when it barred three major media outlets from
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  Speaker 4: access to the White House.
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  Speaker 1: U.S.
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  Speaker 4: District Judge Timothy Kelly said said the administration's process did
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  Speaker 4: not appear to comply with two earlier D.C. court rulings,
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  Speaker 4: Cheryl v. Knight and Karam v. Trump, requiring due process
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  Speaker 4: those cases were wrongly decided, Kelly, but as a district
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  Speaker 4: court judge, they may or may not be, but I
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  Speaker 1: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: your little crash.
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  Speaker 16: But you might feel.
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  Speaker 8: The more I think about it, old Billy was right.
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  Speaker 18: Let's kill all the lawyers, kill them tonight.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to work, you want to live like
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  Speaker 2: a king. But the big bad world doesn't owe you
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  Speaker 2: a thing.
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  Speaker 11: Get over it.
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  Speaker 4: So due process and precedent, they're in my view, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm certainly not a jurist, though I have sat on juries.
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  Speaker 4: And this isn't a Sonny Hostin thing, although I have
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  Speaker 4: had some impact on the juries I've sat on. But
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  Speaker 4: that's not why we're here. So this... Judge in D.C.
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  Speaker 4: is playing such a sad role of so many jurors.
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  Speaker 4: He's just going to be the punching bag for this
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  Speaker 4: particular instance. He's not the only one that does this.
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  Speaker 4: And if there is.
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  Speaker 4: A manifestation of the things that have gone wrong in
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  Speaker 4: this country. It is the judicial predilection to deigning to precedent.
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  Speaker 4: So this judge in this case about the reporters, and
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  Speaker 4: I hate going into this because it's about the reporters
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  Speaker 4: and at this point we've chewed on this to the
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  Speaker 4: point that all that's left is grizzle and you know
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  Speaker 4: seriously dude get over it because a couple of things
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  Speaker 4: need to be applied here at least as I a
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  Speaker 4: citizen of the United States read my governmental constitution and
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  Speaker 4: bill of rights and Several things. Number one, the application
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  Speaker 4: of due process as a matter of a criminal or
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  Speaker 4: a court proceeding regards rights that are going to be
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  Speaker 4: infringed upon at an individual level. So the argument, if
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  Speaker 4: these reporters are deigning that Their due process was violated
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  Speaker 4: when they lost their hard pass to sit in air-conditioned
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  Speaker 4: comfort and write puff pieces about what Kareem Jean-Pierre or
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  Speaker 4: Scott Besant or Caroline Levitt is wearing around their neck.
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  Speaker 4: Don't care. They sit in a little sequestered room that
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  Speaker 4: was built with the intent of keeping them in the
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  Speaker 4: dark and feeding them manure, like a series of well-dressed mushrooms.
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  Speaker 4: Why would you be fighting for this in court? This
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  Speaker 4: is like a bunch of people who are freed from
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  Speaker 4: the prison going into court saying, hey, they kicked us
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  Speaker 4: out of prison without due process. I was counting on
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  Speaker 4: those three meals a day and the exercise time and
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  Speaker 4: the conjugal visits in the showers. I was counting on these.
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  Speaker 4: Now what am I going to do? Seriously, think about it.
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  Speaker 4: These are like prisoners. suing in court to get taken
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  Speaker 4: back to prison. The precedent is a separate subtext, but
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  Speaker 4: the idea that you have a right to special access
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  Speaker 4: to any government official belies, number one, that The government
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  Speaker 4: is now giving out special access to itself, to me, unconstitutionally.
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  Speaker 4: Number two, that you misunderstand what the freedom of the
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  Speaker 4: press speaks about in the First Amendment. We've well established
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  Speaker 4: on this program that most people think that when George
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  Speaker 4: Mason wrote that line in his draft of the Bill
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  Speaker 4: of Rights, that he meant the news media.
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  Speaker 13: No.
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 4: He meant the right to publish. Maybe he should have
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  Speaker 4: said the right to publish. Maybe using the word the
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  Speaker 4: press was too cute by half. But he wanted to
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  Speaker 4: make sure that your right to publish, whether it be
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  Speaker 4: your Substack page or a newspaper, was going to be inviolate.
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  Speaker 4: And there's nothing in revoking somebody's hard pass to the
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  Speaker 4: White House press prison that stops your right to publish.
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  Speaker 4: So therefore, arguing that your due process was violated is.
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  Speaker 4: Dangerous because of precedent. Now, we segue to the other
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  Speaker 4: jurisprudential malpractice that I watched in this proceeding, but it's
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  Speaker 4: not a new one. Judges across the country avoid actually
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  Speaker 4: having to do their job on a daily basis by
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  Speaker 4: just saying, Smith v. Jones in 2021 already decided.
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  Speaker 11: This.
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  Speaker 4: So everyone out of here, I'm going to go sneak
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  Speaker 4: some illegals out the back door of my courthouse now.
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  Speaker 4: Each case has nuance and to just say because a
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  Speaker 4: case was similar to this case, And it was decided
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  Speaker 4: thusly ipso facto into it. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 4: I believe post hoc ergo propter hoc is a legal
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  Speaker 4: precedent or is a legal term, meaning because one happened,
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  Speaker 4: therefore it was caused by the thing that preceded it.
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  Speaker 4: It's wrong. It doesn't work out, but they do it
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  Speaker 4: all the time. And just because something happened in a
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  Speaker 4: case that you had nothing to do with years ago
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean you decide this case based on it. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't care what the manner is or what the
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  Speaker 4: matter is before the court. It could be whether or
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  Speaker 4: not somebody had their hard pass taken and their hiney
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  Speaker 4: hurt or if somebody had their car stolen from them.
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  Speaker 4: Just because a judge years ago in a courtroom far,
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  Speaker 4: far away decided something some way doesn't mean you have
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  Speaker 4: to decide your case before you this way. This is
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  Speaker 4: an infuriating abdication of a judge's responsibility. You get a
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  Speaker 4: lifetime post in most of these cases so that you
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  Speaker 4: can be free of these pressures of I got to
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  Speaker 4: do this right or I'm going to lose my campaign
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  Speaker 4: re-election fund or some such. And yet you behave like
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  Speaker 4: you've got a tee time to make at three. So
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  Speaker 4: let's get this moving here, counselor. This is just, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't, it was just scribbling. This is wrong and
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  Speaker 4: that is wrong. So much wrong going on in this case.
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  Speaker 1: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network. Wait,
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  Speaker 21: Wait, wait, hey, hey, hey, Mr.
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  Speaker 5: Postman.
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  Speaker 4: Before you throw away all those ballots, Mr. Postman, could you... Oh,
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  Speaker 4: what a mess this is. And, of course, the leftists
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  Speaker 4: 300 people were murdered... No, no, no, no. Let's take
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  Speaker 4: leftists would be out there asking for anything that even
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  Speaker 4: But 300 people losing their right to vote. It's a
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  Speaker 4: rounding error, right? You people, the hypocrisy is almost stunning. Almost.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's because I've been hit in the
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  Speaker 4: On top of the case of the guy, I think
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  Speaker 4: it was, we may have mispronounced his name. which by
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: the way, federal prosecutors say was based on frustration and laziness.
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  Speaker 4: He went in, he pulled in Damian Matai See, or Seei,
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  Speaker 4: S-E-E-I is his name. told investigators he tossed the ballots
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  Speaker 4: along with other mail into a parking lot dumpster shortly
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  Speaker 4: before Utah's primary election to lighten his workload after feeling
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  Speaker 4: overwhelmed and admitted to investigators that it was a poor decision.
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  Speaker 4: The handcuffs probably motivated him to determine that it was
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  Speaker 4: a poor decision. He had his first day in court yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: but then on a sidebar, Utah County officials report that
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  Speaker 4: nearly 300 ballots never even got to the voters. So
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: now that's 600 people who didn't get their say in
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  Speaker 4: their primary. And you keep telling me that mail-in ballots, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: this is just a, I'm sorry, those are 300 real people,
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  Speaker 19: Good morning, Joe. It's Kareem.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Kareem. How are you doing this Thursday morning?
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  Speaker 21: Well, it's rainy, and I just came down the fancy gap,
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  Speaker 4: Is that a metaphor for something? I'm not sure. I've
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  Speaker 4: they said, you know, good to go and what they meant.
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  Speaker 4: And I was abashed. And then he told me and
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  Speaker 21: Going to the judiciary, how honestly, much like first you
• 34:21
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  Speaker 12: What?
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  Speaker 21: Now, there's a lot of details I'm leaving out. It's
• 34:56
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  Speaker 19: There's a lot of backstory.
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  Speaker 4: You qualify to be a White House press corps member then.
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  Speaker 21: I'd have a lot of fun, that's for sure. But
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  Speaker 21: the judge, during closing arguments, gave the instruction to the attorney.
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  Speaker 4: In a courtroom?
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  Speaker 19: In the courtroom, yes. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 21: I'm not just saying something that hasn't been known. Ted
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  Speaker 21: Cruz made note of that when the lawyer for Kurt
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  Speaker 21: Benshoof posted about it on the Internet.
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  Speaker 19: So, yes, it is happening.
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  Speaker 21: And right now there's issues going through, but that's just
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  Speaker 21: one judge in one area. Joe, our Congress is the
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  Speaker 21: got a lot of complaints about our Congress, but that's
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  Speaker 21: just another example of out of control. But going to
• 35:58
  Speaker 21: this 300 ballots that the mailman threw away, Joe– We're
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  Speaker 21: were people who are self-identified as illegal aliens getting registered
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  Speaker 21: to vote when they got their driver's license. Joe, each
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  Speaker 14: Want to call it.
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  Speaker 19: As they're told to do. Computer software.
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  Speaker 4: But it's as if.
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• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Mark Mix is on the Newsmakers line with us. The
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: National Right to Work Foundation, a big win on the
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: case of this bunch of truckers fighting off the Teamsters Union.
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  Speaker 4: And if the truckers are facing off and kicking out
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  Speaker 4: the Teamsters, the world has changed a lot, Mark, and
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  Speaker 4: I want to report on it. Mark, how are you
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  Speaker 4: doing this morning? This is a weird case, truckers versus Teamsters,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it?
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  Speaker 19: Well, yeah, that's right. You know, when you think of Teamsters,
• 45:05
  Speaker 19: you think of truck drivers, but the.
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  Speaker 22: New Teamsters In fact, we've got a battle right now
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  Speaker 22: out in Grand Blanc, Michigan, on behalf of 385 nurses
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  Speaker 22: who are, believe it or not, Joe.
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  Speaker 19: Represented by the Teamsters.
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  Speaker 22: They're trying to do exactly what these Richmond area Penske
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  Speaker 22: workers did, and that is decertify the union, meaning they
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  Speaker 22: want to throw the union out.
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  Speaker 19: Of their workplace.
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  Speaker 22: And, Joe, we've talked enough over the years to know
• 45:29
  Speaker 22: that it's really quite easy to get into a union,
• 45:33
  Speaker 22: but it's extremely difficult to get out. And labor law
• 45:35
  Speaker 22: is written differently. in favor of union officials, going back
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  Speaker 22: to the 1930s, when at that point in time, during
• 45:42
  Speaker 22: the Roosevelt administration, you could be forced to formally join
• 45:46
  Speaker 22: a private organization and pay dues to that organization as
• 45:50
  Speaker 22: a condition of getting or keeping a job in America.
• 45:53
  Speaker 22: And believe it or not, those federal laws are still
• 45:56
  Speaker 22: on the books, but there is an exception, and that
• 46:00
  Speaker 22: is states being able to pass what are known as
• 46:02
  Speaker 22: right-to-work laws.
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  Speaker 19: And as I mentioned already, Virginia's had theirs for a while.
• 46:05
  Speaker 19: So what happened here, as.
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  Speaker 22: To your intro, the Teamsters Union organized this workplace. And actually,
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  Speaker 22: I think it was a business that Penske actually acquired,
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  Speaker 22: and it had a union in it. And the workers
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  Speaker 22: there decided that the Teamsters weren't doing what the Teamsters
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  Speaker 22: alleged that they would do and help them in their
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  Speaker 22: workplace and represent them in a manner that would be
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  Speaker 22: favorable to those employees. And literally, Joe, in this situation,
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  Speaker 22: every single member of this unit, this Teamster Union, voted
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  Speaker 22: to throw the union out. And this wasn't the first
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  Speaker 22: case for Penske drivers. This is probably the seventh or
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  Speaker 22: eighth case we've had on behalf of Penske employees.
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  Speaker 19: Across the country who have thrown the teamsters out.
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  Speaker 22: Yeah, we've had cases in, gosh, I think in two
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  Speaker 22: of them, Minnesota, one in Indiana, one in California.
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  Speaker 19: There's been several, Dallas, Texas, Nashville, Tennessee. in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 22: And today, just today, our attorneys filed what's called a
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  Speaker 22: deauthorization petition for Penske employees in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Now, deauthorization
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  Speaker 22: is a little bit different than decertification. Decertification throws the
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  Speaker 22: union out. Deauthorization is a very difficult thing to accomplish.
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  Speaker 22: Because you have to get a majority of all the
• 47:23
  Speaker 22: members of a bargaining unit to basically say they don't
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  Speaker 22: want to pay union dues anymore. And, of course, Pennsylvania
• 47:28
  Speaker 22: is not a right-to-work state, so they have to vote.
• 47:32
  Speaker 22: So if there's 100 people in a unit, 51 people
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  Speaker 22: must cast their vote to withdraw the so-called union security clause,
• 47:39
  Speaker 22: which is actually the language that says, hey, if you
• 47:41
  Speaker 22: don't pay us, you get fired.
• 47:43
  Speaker 19: And so that battle is ongoing.
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  Speaker 22: And the reason why we have to do a deauthorization
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  Speaker 22: there is because they can't do a decertification there.
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  Speaker 19: Except for once every three years. They literally, once you're in,
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  Speaker 19: you can't challenge. Yeah.
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  Speaker 22: You can't challenge the representation of the union for up
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  Speaker 22: to three years until.
• 47:59
  Speaker 19: The contract is, it expires. So these aren't really rules. Yeah.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
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  Speaker 22: These aren't really rules written for the common man. They're
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  Speaker 22: written for organized labor officials and organizers. And, and interestingly enough, Joe,
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  Speaker 22: this is one of the quantum product lines that has
• 48:15
  Speaker 22: really sparked a tremendous increase in activity in across the
• 48:20
  Speaker 22: last few years i mean we at the foundation we
• 48:23
  Speaker 22: don't help the employees run the campaign but what we
• 48:25
  Speaker 22: do is we clear the roadblocks that basically are put
• 48:29
  Speaker 22: up to block them from having these elections and that's
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  Speaker 22: a really interesting part of this equation because immediately upon
• 48:35
  Speaker 22: employees getting together and the employers can have nothing to
• 48:38
  Speaker 22: do with this if they're found to have anything to
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  Speaker 22: do with trying to decertify the union that election will
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  Speaker 22: get thrown out and get blocked so this is totally
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  Speaker 22: the employees doing their work And, you know, oftentimes the
• 48:49
  Speaker 22: union will immediately file what's called an unfair labor practice charge,
• 48:52
  Speaker 22: and they'll say, oh, the employer put them up to it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 22: And if there's any pain of that or any evidence,
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  Speaker 22: then they don't.
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  Speaker 19: Get their election.
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  Speaker 22: So in this case, it's totally the employees, and we
• 49:01
  Speaker 22: help them make sure that the road is clear to
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  Speaker 22: get this election. And that was the result here in
• 49:07
  Speaker 22: Richmond just a week ago that they basically said, we
• 49:10
  Speaker 22: want the union out. A unanimous vote threw the teamsters out,
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  Speaker 22: and now it's been certified, so the teamsters have to
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  Speaker 22: go away.
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  Speaker 4: Now, just to be clear, when you say Penske drivers,
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: you're not talking about Joey Logano or Ryan Blaney, although
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: he's got his own problems with NASCAR these days. We're
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: talking about the truck rental business, those big yellow trucks
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  Speaker 4: that you see all over the place helping small businesses
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  Speaker 4: that don't have a fleet of their own trucks, correct?
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  Speaker 19: Correct.
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  Speaker 22: That is correct, and these are the folks that maintain
• 49:41
  Speaker 22: those trucks and repair them and rent them out, work
• 49:43
  Speaker 22: in the service centers that rent those trucks out. But
• 49:46
  Speaker 22: we would be glad, and good for you, you know
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  Speaker 22: two of the Penske drivers.
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  Speaker 19: There's one more.
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  Speaker 22: It's number 22, 12, and 2, I think, are the
• 49:54
  Speaker 22: Penske drivers.
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  Speaker 19: Right, yeah. So your knowledge is more extensive than even
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  Speaker 19: I knew, Joe. So congratulations, too. We'd be glad to
• 50:02
  Speaker 19: help those street drivers, too.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: I just didn't feel like mentioning Austin Sindrick. They've got
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: their own problems there.
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  Speaker 19: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I was just holding back. I don't like showing off.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: So Mark Mix is on. Mark Mix is the National
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Right to Work Foundation. Well, he's not. There are so
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: many folks who work with us. Talk about The effort,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: because you supported, as you mentioned, you sort of cleared
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: the roadblocks that are inherently built into the labor system
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: to try to keep this and to make it Herculeanly
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: difficult to accomplish. Because we've talked about this probably since
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: the gubernatorial elections in Virginia last year when I frustrated
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: listeners and I said, listen, you know who you need
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: to support? are these organizations like National Right to Work
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Foundation who go to court with people who have had
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: their rights violated. Because one of the things I've learned
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: in my life, people are going to violate your constitutionally
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: protected rights. And you need somebody to stand with you
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: as you fight them all the way to the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy making to think how much we need that
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  Speaker 4: to happen. But I'm God glad that we have organizations
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: like you that help either in these legal battles for
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: your rights outside of the courtroom or even having to
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: take them all the way to the courts. So talk
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: about the team that you have that helps do all that, Mark.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah, Joe, thank you for that.
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  Speaker 22: And it has been the mission of the National Rights
• 51:40
  Speaker 22: Work Legal Defense Foundation since 1968 to help individual employees
• 51:45
  Speaker 22: exercise their rights. And first and foremost, we couldn't do
• 51:47
  Speaker 22: any of this if there weren't courageous employees that stood.
• 51:50
  Speaker 19: Up and said, you know what? This is not right.
• 51:53
  Speaker 22: I mean, we can't file these lawsuits.
• 51:55
  Speaker 19: We can't file these petitions.
• 51:57
  Speaker 22: We can only help them when they come to us
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  Speaker 22: and say, hey, I'd like to fight. And boy, the
• 52:02
  Speaker 22: good news is, Joe, is there are people out there
• 52:04
  Speaker 22: that have that courage and stand up. And we've argued
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  Speaker 22: 18 cases in front of the United States Supreme Court,
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  Speaker 22: literally in many of those cases on behalf of one
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  Speaker 22: single employee that says, I want to fight back against
• 52:15
  Speaker 22: this injustice. And, you know, obviously the legal process is long.
• 52:19
  Speaker 22: We just finished. And, Joe, I think you and I
• 52:21
  Speaker 22: have talked about this case. We finished the case on
• 52:23
  Speaker 22: behalf of a Southwest Airlines flight attendant who got fired
• 52:27
  Speaker 22: from her job because, yeah, we just got done. That
• 52:30
  Speaker 22: was nine years of litigation.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Nine years. This is what I'm talking about. Nine years.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: The average person can't go into court with a lawyer
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: for nine years and not come out bankrupt from it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Mark makes National Right to Work Foundation. On with us
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  Speaker 4: this morning, a big case out of Richmond, Virginia.
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