Latest / gasp! the pod / kaylor is back from the dead
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- 0:00Even normie Swifties are like what is happening?
- 0:03And that's how you know it's a good day to be a galer.
- 0:16Happy pride. I like ice in my wine, you know,
- 0:19You know, happy pride. It's happening.
- 0:22It's literally happening. Is everyone calm?
- 0:24I'm obviously not calm. 2 episodes of Taylor Swift in a
- 0:28row like you're welcome. In the cinematic universe of
- 0:31Taylor Swift, big things are happening and surprise surprise,
- 0:35gaylors are coming out on top. Double wink.
- 0:39We are one month away from the quote UN quote wedding of the
- 0:42century AKA the Tavis wedding and miss girl Taylor Swift in
- 0:47Evelyn Hugo fucking fashion leaks.
- 0:50Probably. She leaked it leaks the news
- 0:53that her rumored ex-girlfriend, who she has not been publicly
- 0:59spotted with in almost a decade, Harley Kloss, will be attending
- 1:05that wedding. She releases that news the same
- 1:08week she releases her new song that points directly to all of
- 1:12the Gaylord threads that we've been picking up in her music for
- 1:14almost all of her career. And to top all of that off, a
- 1:18literal sports slash music arena, Madison Square Garden,
- 1:23has allegedly been chosen as the location for the ceremony.
- 1:26Almost as if this is part let's use our thinking caps of the
- 1:30bigger show, AKA the performance art that is Miss Americana
- 1:34Taylor Swift. I'm going to be unpacking what
- 1:37all of this means and presenting to you my predictions based on
- 1:41being A, A professional guy, B professional Taylor Swift fan
- 1:45and C professional Gaylor. My predictions for the wedding,
- 1:49the wedding, quote UN quote, whether or not I think it's
- 1:52going to even happen at MSG if it does happen.
- 1:54My predictions on TS13, Taylor's starting a new record label and
- 2:00what I think is going to be a huge shift in Taylor's career.
- 2:04I also, I'm going to be doing a full lyrical analysis of her new
- 2:08song for Toy Story 5. I knew it, I knew you.
- 2:10We're going to be talking about all the lyrical connections that
- 2:13I've found so far. Just these, like, themes we keep
- 2:16hearing over and over in Taylor Swift songs, specifically her
- 2:20gayest ones, because there's a larger story here.
- 2:23We're not just hearing about a wedding and then B Toy Story.
- 2:26Like, this is not disjointed. This is all very much planned.
- 2:30As Taylor Swift said, can I plan something three years in
- 2:32advance? And I think she's been planning
- 2:35this for three albums in advance.
- 2:37Let's get into it. First of all, happy pride.
- 2:39Did you guys see my rainbow earrings?
- 2:41I got these when I first came out as by like I think 2018.
- 2:46Hopefully they don't RIP out my earlobes.
- 2:48Here's what we're going to do with this episode.
- 2:50OK, I want to talk about the major hard hitting news so we
- 2:53can kind of frame this song and understand the song better.
- 2:58So first I'm going to be talking about the Karlie Kloss of it
- 3:01all, the wedding of it all, and then we can go into like actual
- 3:04Easter eggs and queer flagging. Obviously I'll talk about my
- 3:07predictions throughout it all, but at the end I'm going to give
- 3:11you like my layout of what I think is really going to happen
- 3:15and I'm excited for you guys to hear my theory.
- 3:17Let me know what you think at the end of the episode,
- 3:19obviously. So first let's talk about Curly
- 3:21Kloss being invited to the fucking wedding.
- 3:23Karlie Kloss. This I one of those situations
- 3:27where Swifties and like huttlers are literally silent.
- 3:32If you guys don't know what a huttler is, it's someone who's
- 3:35like a swifty but like hates gaylers.
- 3:36So not just like a heteronormative Swifty, like one
- 3:40that hates gaylers. And there's probably one or two
- 3:43of you guys watching my podcast because you guys are so obsessed
- 3:46with me. But it is so funny because I
- 3:49have not heard anyone really rebut how crazy this is.
- 3:55It is absolutely fucking crazy that we're even seeing in 2026,
- 4:00Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift, their names being in the same
- 4:04fucking title. Like that's an insane headline
- 4:07and something we could have, I did not predict.
- 4:11And Taylor just keeps on giving us a curveball.
- 4:14And this news, this piece of news is really what's giving me
- 4:17hope for my theory at the end of the episode.
- 4:20I do think Taylor is gay. Obviously I'm a Gaylord.
- 4:24I don't know in what capacity. Like I don't know for sure that
- 4:27her relationship with Travis is only PR.
- 4:30I definitely think there's PR in it.
- 4:33I don't know for certain because I don't know Taylor, etcetera,
- 4:35etcetera. But like, sometimes you're like,
- 4:37what if she stays in this era forever?
- 4:40What if she never comes out? What if she's been queer baiting
- 4:43us the entire time? And then you hear a piece of
- 4:46news like this and you're just like, damn, this is fucking
- 4:50crazy. Like, wow, we really are, right?
- 4:53Like we know this came from her camp.
- 4:58Rumors that are so random like this are not picked up by almost
- 5:02all major news sources, especially not like Cosmo and
- 5:05e-news. These are like trusted.
- 5:07And when I say trusted, I mean it's trusted in the terms of
- 5:10like celebrity world where celebrities still do interviews
- 5:14with these sites a list celebrities are not doing
- 5:16interviews with Daily Mail. So like these sites still want
- 5:19to have a good reputation with celebrities.
- 5:21So they would not perpetuate articles that are completely,
- 5:25completely off base. Maybe a little bit off base.
- 5:27They would, especially not when it comes to Taylor Swift because
- 5:31Taylor Swift has her image on lock.
- 5:34Also, we know nothing really else about this wedding.
- 5:37And I think that that's obviously on purpose from
- 5:40Taylor's camp. News that we are getting is so
- 5:42specific. Like we haven't really heard
- 5:44anything about anyone else in the wedding.
- 5:46We don't know who Taylor Swift's maid of honor is going to be.
- 5:49Lol. What if it's Carly?
- 5:51So it's not like we have the whole guest list and all of a
- 5:54sudden we know Carly Kloss. We just got leaked to the Carly
- 5:57Kloss thing because Taylor's camp decided to release that
- 6:00news. I think A, to get us fucking
- 6:03fired up the gaylors, B to be like starting this whole
- 6:07beginning of the end of the showgirl and also so that we can
- 6:13start getting used to seeing their names together up in
- 6:16lights. And again, I'll go into it more,
- 6:19but like, this is strategic and this is not fucking random.
- 6:23And it also shows that they've been in contact.
- 6:26Bare minimum be friends or see lovers for a long time and
- 6:32longer than any of us know. This news was announced by TMZ
- 6:35and almost all of the sites after that followed suit.
- 6:38And this is so fucking crazy because the last time we saw
- 6:41them together was during the reputation tour in Nashville.
- 6:45There's a lot of theories about what their relationship was
- 6:48between the time of 2018 and now.
- 6:51It's so funny because there's a lot of Swifties that wouldn't
- 6:53call themselves Gaylors but would say, oh, I think there was
- 6:56something between Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift.
- 6:58Like there's such an iconic rumored relationship that to see
- 7:03Karlie Kloss's name in the headlines a month before the
- 7:07Tavis wedding, it's a fucking curveball, right?
- 7:10Like, remember when JJ Law said I just want to know what's going
- 7:14on between Taylor Swift and curly cloth?
- 7:15Like, this is mainstream media awareness.
- 7:19And if they were friends this whole time, quote and quote
- 7:22friends, why would they just tell us now?
- 7:26It's supposed to be this bombshell news for a reason,
- 7:30right? Again, I'm not going to pretend
- 7:31like I know for certain what had happened based on the music.
- 7:35There's a lot of different theories here, right?
- 7:38Like maybe was on and off with Joe and then went back with
- 7:40Carly. Like obviously in TTPD, she
- 7:44broke up with someone and got together with this new person
- 7:47and then got with Travis. I have a theory that 2023 around
- 7:51the time of the heirs to where Carly and Taylor were back in
- 7:54each other's lives. And that's why Travis is such a
- 7:57crucial part of this story because like he is the beard for
- 8:00Carly. It makes sense for multiple
- 8:02reasons. Travis and Carly were connected
- 8:04because Carly was a huge Chiefs fan.
- 8:07Travis has been to Carly Kloss's house in Miami.
- 8:10They know each other and it would have made sense for Carly
- 8:13to like set Taylor up with this beard.
- 8:16Taylor also started dating Travis a month after Carly
- 8:20showed up to the heiress to her. Some people think they've been
- 8:22together this entire time. Some people think that maybe
- 8:25she's not actually with Carly, but they're on good terms and
- 8:28she's using Carly as a way to flag gaylorism without having to
- 8:33use her real, actual girlfriend or muse.
- 8:36Who the fuck knows? All I know is that it's Gaylor,
- 8:40and it's major. Notably, this news about Carly
- 8:44Kloss came out just a few days before she released.
- 8:48I knew it. I knew you, Taylor Swift's new
- 8:50song. And I don't think that's an
- 8:51accident. I think it's for us to view the
- 8:54song in a Carly context. Also, Carly Kloss posted
- 8:59Instagram stories and a post the day after all this news came
- 9:03out. And like, when the world, and I
- 9:05really do think world was grappling with the Kaylor news
- 9:09and she posted a chess board. And what's very notable about
- 9:13this is that on the chess board she posted, all of the pawns are
- 9:17in its place. Now, why is that relevant at
- 9:20all? And are we crazy?
- 9:21Oh my gosh, this is so irrelevant.
- 9:23No, it's all so fucking strategic.
- 9:25Carly knows that her name was in the news and then she posted
- 9:29this post with a chess board. What does it remind us of?
- 9:33It reminds us of Mastermind. Check me.
- 9:36I couldn't lose the VS runway when they walked down a
- 9:41checkerboard runway. Also back in 2023, the same year
- 9:47that Carly showed up at Taylor Swift's 1989 announcement, which
- 9:51I don't think is irrelevant because 1989 is the era that
- 9:55they were like, you know, and also, I was at that concert.
- 9:59Not to brag, I know I say it all the time, but like truly thank
- 10:03you God. Like, that's why I know God is a
- 10:05woman, like, and God is a Gaylor.
- 10:07Speaking of, I have a T-shirt called God is a Gaylor.
- 10:10You can check it out on my website in the Lincoln bio.
- 10:13But anyways, in the same year, Karlie Kloss dressed up as
- 10:16Dorothy, which there's so much here, you guys, there's so much
- 10:21here. And she posed and like very
- 10:24specifically, right? Like it wasn't like he was in
- 10:26the very, very background. Like the chess board is right
- 10:29there posed with a chess board and it had one missing pawn.
- 10:33And now when we get this news out about her attending the
- 10:36fucking wedding when we haven't heard anything about the two of
- 10:40them in years, she posts a chess board with all the pieces there.
- 10:44Like truly, like if they didn't want us to go fucking crazy,
- 10:48they wouldn't be doing this point.
- 10:50It's either with good intentions or bad intentions, but it is not
- 10:53not intentional. The New York Times did this
- 10:55article called like fantasy bets for the Tavis wedding and they
- 11:01mentioned that hypothetical wedding location would be the
- 11:05Big Sur cabin that Carly and Taylor stayed in during the
- 11:10iconic Big Sur trip. And by the way, the New York
- 11:13Times, this point has been very Gaylord messy because they're
- 11:16the ones that posted the opinion piece, the original classic
- 11:20Gaylord opinion piece on their site.
- 11:22And now they're doing these like hypothetical Big Sur.
- 11:25And then they also mentioned cowboy like me, like what is
- 11:27happening? Obviously Taylor did this like
- 11:30songwriting interview with them. Everyone's fucking in on it at
- 11:33this point. But anyways, then the cabin
- 11:35called D Gen. I think Big Sur in posted on
- 11:38Instagram. Oh, thank you, New York Times,
- 11:40blah, blah, blah. And then they said whether
- 11:43you're a global superstar or simply celebrating your own love
- 11:46story, we'll be here waiting. Love is welcome here in all its
- 11:49forms. Rainbow and they said we
- 11:52included a last slide of Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss in our
- 11:56backyard and then posted the picture of Carly and Taylor.
- 11:59I'm losing my mind. The amount of Kaler stuff coming
- 12:02out I could not have anticipated a month ago.
- 12:04So that's the Karlie Kloss knows.
- 12:07My heart is Kaler. Guys, I'm just going to be
- 12:09honest. Is it the most obvious choice?
- 12:11Yeah. But sometimes the most obvious
- 12:13things are the true things. Let's talk about Madison Square
- 12:15Garden. The same week that we get the
- 12:18Karlie Kloss knows, the new song that I'm still going to go
- 12:21through lyrical analysis with, we also get this rumoured news
- 12:28that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are going to get married
- 12:30at Madison Square Garden. What?
- 12:33Again, even Normie Swifty's are like what is happening?
- 12:38And that's how you know it's a good day to be a Galer.
- 12:42Before I get into MSG stuff, I wanted to just quickly give some
- 12:45reminders. Please don't Fast forward.
- 12:48Hear me out. It'll be one minute.
- 12:50I have new pride merch out. It is specifically Taylor Swift
- 12:54Galer coded. It is a T-shirt that says me out
- 12:57now with butterflies and it is out now just like me and many of
- 13:02you. And why is this important to me?
- 13:04Because I feel like everything goes back to me.
- 13:06Everything goes back to lover. And this is Taylor's sparkling
- 13:09summer. So go grab your shirt.
- 13:11It's available in the same tab. I told you about the other shirt
- 13:14I have that's got as a galer in my link trees in my YouTube, on
- 13:18my Tik Toks and on my Instagrams, my gasp Instagram,
- 13:22just under the tab merch. And importantly, 50% of the
- 13:26proceeds of the me out now T-shirt is going to the national
- 13:29LGBTQ Task force. I actually interned there.
- 13:33They do amazing intersectional work.
- 13:35Like it is super diverse. My experience.
- 13:38They're way more diverse than the HRC.
- 13:40It is actually the oldest LGBTQ rights advocacy organization in
- 13:46the country. They write amicus briefs to the
- 13:48Supreme Court. When I was working there, I went
- 13:50to the Supreme Court and I covered stuff for them.
- 13:52They do great research. They set up great rallies.
- 13:54They do great fundraising. So like they do great work.
- 13:57So that's where 50% of the proceeds are going.
- 13:59Also, I have a new bonus episode on my hot takes that I cannot
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- 14:07I'm going to be releasing a bonus Pride episode.
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- 14:38Happy pride. I love you all.
- 14:40Let's have some joy, but also let's uplift our most persecuted
- 14:45members of our community, which are specifically trans people,
- 14:48specifically black trans people, and go outside, go to real pride
- 14:53events. Trust me, it's so much more fun
- 14:55when you're in like physical community.
- 14:57But if you're in a place with no events in a small area, in a
- 14:59small town, in an isolated area, let me know if you want to
- 15:03connect with more queer people. I know there's a lot of discords
- 15:05and like community areas to engage with people that like is
- 15:09a little bit more healthy than like TikTok.
- 15:11So let me know. It can give like suggestions for
- 15:13that. All right, let's move on.
- 15:15So Madison Square Garden, what the fuck?
- 15:18So the news or the rumor rather, that Taylor Swift and Travis
- 15:22Kelce are going to get married in a stadium that houses both
- 15:26musical events and sporting events.
- 15:28Isn't that so fucking ironic? Because there are a couple of
- 15:31music, music tree and sports and it just seems like so fucking
- 15:37performance coded. Like literally, it feels like
- 15:40wake up bitches. This is all for a performance.
- 15:45This is all for the show. This came the same week as the
- 15:48Karlie Kloss news. Like, it doesn't make any sense
- 15:52if you were looking at this couple as a normal loved up
- 15:56romantic couple, which we've been saying they're not for a
- 16:01long time. And those who have been saying
- 16:05like she wants someone that wants to be in the spotlight,
- 16:08when is it too far? You guys?
- 16:10Why do you want someone that only wants to be with you?
- 16:13Because the spotlight, like the argument against Joe was like he
- 16:17wanted to keep her hidden. The argument for Travis is that,
- 16:20oh, he wants to take her out of her shell, but every single part
- 16:24of their intimate relationship is on show.
- 16:27And the final nail in the coffin for me is the fact that and who
- 16:31even knows what's going to happen?
- 16:33Again, I have a theory that you're going to have a wedding
- 16:36at a stadium, just like when Travis Kelsey performed at the
- 16:42Heiress Tour. Literally a play within a play.
- 16:44How many times have I said it on this podcast?
- 16:47It is so on the nose it's almost laughable.
- 16:49And even people that are obsessed with them are like,
- 16:52this doesn't make any sense. They're trying to make it make
- 16:55sense. Like, OK, good security, guys.
- 16:57There's security other places besides the stadium.
- 17:01It does not make any fucking sense.
- 17:02She lives in her own house. She lives in many different
- 17:05houses and has good security there.
- 17:07Like she could have invited 300 people to a Rhode Island
- 17:10wedding. That's a huge property, like
- 17:13they can figure it out. There's no need to have it at
- 17:16MSG. I will say about this rumor, it
- 17:19was announced by TMZ. Almost all sites followed.
- 17:22The reason why I believe this a little bit less than the Karlie
- 17:25Kloss thing is because more credible sites are still
- 17:30uncertain about the MSG thing when a lot of the credible sites
- 17:34have been talking about the Karlie Kloss news as if it is
- 17:37fact. Now, do I think the MSG thing is
- 17:40from some random person? No, I think it's still fed out
- 17:43by Tavis. But I still think that the sites
- 17:45are kind of like, what the fuck? This doesn't make any fucking
- 17:48sense. And maybe because there might
- 17:51not be a wedding or there might not be a wedding in the way that
- 17:55we anticipate there to be a wedding, will this even happen
- 18:00is my question. I know a lot of dealers have
- 18:02been saying they don't think the wedding will ever happen.
- 18:05I've always doubted the wedding, but I never really fully
- 18:10believed, oh, there's not going to be a wedding.
- 18:12Because I was like, why do all of this publicity for a wedding
- 18:15and not do the final shebang for publicity wise?
- 18:18I think there's going to be some event.
- 18:21Again, why do all of this for no climax?
- 18:25But I don't know if that's going to end up being a wedding or a
- 18:28wedding in the way that we think there's going to be romantic
- 18:32wedding. Will there be fan invitations?
- 18:34Like what even is this now? Is this an announcement of an
- 18:38album? Is this an announcement of a
- 18:40record label? I think maybe is this an
- 18:43announcement of something else? Like is it even a wedding?
- 18:45Why would there be this much capacity in a stadium for only
- 18:51even if it is 1000 people, why would they be at MSG getting
- 18:55married? Is it going to be a real
- 18:56wedding? But it's just going to be the
- 18:58most performative shit we've ever seen to almost just again
- 19:02nail down the play within a play.
- 19:05I again, I'll get to my theory. I'll get to my theory, but I
- 19:08also want to talk about this article I saw from Stylecaster
- 19:12talking about this MSG rumor because I think it's really
- 19:15interesting and shows how like, even mainstream media and like
- 19:19Swifties are confused. So Stylecaster says the rumors
- 19:23about Taylor Swift's wedding continue to be everywhere.
- 19:25The singer and her soon to be husband Travis Kelsey, are
- 19:28reportedly tying the knot in July in New York City.
- 19:31A wedding venue hasn't been confirmed, but the latest
- 19:33reports that the wedding will take place at Madison Square
- 19:35Garden are giving people some pause.
- 19:37And I think that's the point. Sure, guests still reportedly
- 19:41don't know where the wedding will take place, though MSG is
- 19:43in the realm of possibility. But those close to the singer
- 19:46say it's not very in character to pick such a venue.
- 19:48Right, because even Taylor, at the end of the day, likes to
- 19:51protect certain levels of a private life.
- 19:54Let's take Carly Kloss for example.
- 19:56If we knew what was going on in a private life, wouldn't we have
- 19:59seen her with Carly? Do we see her with all of her
- 20:02friends and all of her close family?
- 20:04Do we see pictures of her Christmases and Thanksgivings
- 20:07anymore? Now that she doesn't really post
- 20:08that on Instagram, do we see any of this stuff?
- 20:12No, that's because she does protect her private life.
- 20:15As much as people try to argue she like wants to be public,
- 20:19there are still parts of her life, her personal life that I
- 20:23think she fiercely protects. Because Taylor Swift the brand
- 20:26is different from Taylor Swift the person.
- 20:28And I don't claim to know Taylor Swift the person.
- 20:31I wish I did. I have a good idea from like her
- 20:34lyrics, but I don't for sure know.
- 20:37And so it does not make sense if this is like true romantic love
- 20:41for her to have it in the most public place.
- 20:45That is not Taylor Swift the person in fashion.
- 20:47It's Taylor Swift the brand fashion.
- 20:49And I think that's what shows us that this wedding era is Taylor
- 20:54Swift the brand. One source told Hollywood
- 20:56insider Rob Shooter. This doesn't sound like Taylor.
- 20:59It sounds like something the Kardashians would do, right?
- 21:02This feels like it's taking to a level those who know her don't
- 21:05buy, Source explained. The wedding at Madison Square
- 21:09Garden feels like a production, not a wedding exactly.
- 21:15And I think that's why they're telling us that it's happening
- 21:19at Madison Square Garden, even if it doesn't happen, because
- 21:22they're trying to tell us what this actually is.
- 21:24I think the reason why big news places are not buying it is
- 21:27because it seems so crazy. But I think that's what we're
- 21:30seeing right now is we're seeing a lot of development that does
- 21:33not make sense if you are a normal Swifty perceiving exactly
- 21:37what she's giving to you at face value.
- 21:41But we're not, and that's why this isn't so surprising to us.
- 21:44The theory is guests will be told to meet at MSG, then
- 21:47they're put out on buses and taken somewhere else.
- 21:49Yeah, so that doesn't make any fucking sense because if they
- 21:53all meet at MSG and now everyone knows that the wedding is
- 21:55happening at MSG, people are just going to follow the buses
- 21:58and then go to the location of the wedding.
- 22:01All this crazy news and all this new stuff is to make us all be
- 22:04like what the fuck is going on? Because this is not going as we
- 22:08all thought it was not we. It's not going as like normie,
- 22:12normal America obsessed with Tavis thought this was all going
- 22:16to be planned. What do you mean MSG?
- 22:18What do you mean Karlie Kloss? OK, let's talk about Toy Story
- 22:215. And I knew what I knew you and
- 22:24the lyrical analysis because I think all of this is tied in
- 22:28right. It is no coincidence that we are
- 22:30getting a song amidst Taylor Swift's wedding because it works
- 22:35out that Toy Story coming out like a few weeks before
- 22:39apparently she's going to get married.
- 22:41She can turn all the news and like push people towards an
- 22:43actual product, but more than that, she gets a hidden way to
- 22:47talk about what's happening without having to directly talk
- 22:52about it. And I think that's what she does
- 22:54in US as well by Gracie Abrams, because this is a song for Toy
- 22:58Story. No one is really reading that
- 23:00deep into it besides like major Swifties, because they're just
- 23:04thinking, oh, this is for Jessie and Toy Story.
- 23:07Like this is not about her. And she gets a guys to then talk
- 23:10about whatever she wants in the same way that she could say, oh,
- 23:14Gracie and I wrote this song. So it's not about something
- 23:16personal and it's coming out at the same time.
- 23:19If she released a single that was just under her name and did
- 23:22not have another project attached to IT, people would be
- 23:25like this is about Travis. This is about blank.
- 23:26This is about blank. But she has the ability to like
- 23:29cover it up in this way and still be crazily gaylor in it.
- 23:35I don't think this was the plan all along.
- 23:37I think like she went along to do Toy Story and I know she
- 23:40probably wants an Oscar etcetera, etcetera, but I think
- 23:43it the timing of it worked out and she took advantage of the
- 23:46timing of it. The idea of toys and coming back
- 23:49to life works so well with Taylor.
- 23:51I mean, not only my boy breaks his only toys, which I don't
- 23:54think it's about a boy, but also this idea of like playing
- 23:58pretend and coming back to life and like death and like, you
- 24:04know, the I tried Tombstone of it all and reputation and karma.
- 24:10Like all of it I think works so well with the themes of Toy
- 24:13Story. I still have not given up on my
- 24:16Dorothy karma theme. And I think that that is still a
- 24:18long game she's playing. And then just let me be
- 24:21delusional, OK? I think it could make sense that
- 24:24Taylor wrote this about a love that was coming back in her
- 24:27life, and she also made it work with the Toy Story plot.
- 24:31I do think that this person is Carly Kloss.
- 24:34Call me delusional. I think it makes sense with the
- 24:36timeline of the heiress tour. I think there's a reason to
- 24:39Carly Kloss wasn't in VIPI think it's because they didn't want to
- 24:42be that public and they wanted to make it look like Carly was
- 24:44just coming on her own volition. I also do think Carly reached
- 24:48out to Taylor and was trying to make amends and then wanted to
- 24:51be at the heiress tour. So I do think Taylor knew that
- 24:54Carly was going to be there, but that was also a big thing for
- 24:58her, especially because they had not been in the headlines for so
- 25:01long together. And after that, the last time we
- 25:03know that they were the same location was at this wedding at
- 25:07Electric Ladies Studios. I think this all corresponds
- 25:09right around the time of TTPD when Taylor's talking about a
- 25:12new love coming back in her life.
- 25:14And again, I think the reason why it's called I Knew What I
- 25:17Knew You is for us to think about this song by Greasy
- 25:21Abrams. I think it is no coincidence
- 25:23that Greasy Abrams has a song called Knew It.
- 25:25I Know You like what are the fucking odds?
- 25:28My theory is that we have another trilogy on our hands
- 25:32besides Betty James and August or Betty Cardigan and August.
- 25:38I think we have Cowboy Like Me, us and I Knew what I knew you.
- 25:43Obviously there's a lot of other songs that go with this, and
- 25:46there's a whole larger story about possibly this love story
- 25:50with Karlie Kloss, but I think this makes so much sense to me,
- 25:54especially with the amount of cowboy imagery we see in the
- 25:57promo of this. I mean, like there's an Plaid
- 26:01patch on her jacket, this lesbian ass fucking jacket, by
- 26:05the way, which I think there's also daisies on it.
- 26:07But there's an ever more Plaid Patch that I think is to bring
- 26:09us back to Cowboy Like Me. In her post for the song as
- 26:14well, she has a cowboy emoji. There's also New York Times
- 26:17referencing Cowboy like Me. Like I think that that is no
- 26:20coincidence. Cowboy Like Me is about meeting
- 26:23someone that is very similar to you.
- 26:25And by the way, you both have closets.
- 26:27They're a cowboy like you. By the way, I have a Cowgirl
- 26:30Like me sweatshirt on my merge shop.
- 26:33Sorry to keep spamming you guys with my merch.
- 26:36They both have skeletons in their closets.
- 26:38This is a gay ass fucking song. They both swindle old men.
- 26:41They're both bandits. But they fell in love and it's
- 26:44kind of tragic. It's like I'm never going to
- 26:46love again. It seems like this love may have
- 26:47ended, right? I mean, there's a lot to this
- 26:49song. Obviously we can't go into all
- 26:51of it. But now you hang from my lips
- 26:53like the gardens of Babylon. That's a very specific
- 26:56reference, and when We Hear Us by Gracie Abrams and Taylor
- 27:00Swift, which came out in 2024, a year after Carly showed up at
- 27:05the Errors tour, it seems like maybe these two lovers saw each
- 27:09other again. And the connection between these
- 27:11two specific songs is the mention of Babylon that is so
- 27:15specific. No one's writing about Babylon
- 27:17these days. And Taylor wrote it, right?
- 27:19And I think the reason why she wrote it with Gracie is so that
- 27:21it wouldn't look so fucking obvious that she wrote it
- 27:24because it's gay Babylon lovers hanging missed calls on the
- 27:27line. It also sounds like Maroon.
- 27:29Mind you, the first lyric in the song is I know you know, I see
- 27:34her through the smoke. She'll play her show and you'll
- 27:39be watching. Oh, it sounds like there's a
- 27:40performance or a show. Maybe it's the fucking eras to
- 27:43her Babylon lovers hanging lifetimes on a vine.
- 27:46Maybe Ivy. Also a reference of ghost of
- 27:50death coming back to life. I know you're a ghost.
- 27:53I see her through the smoke. Then all of a sudden we got this
- 27:56new song called I knew it. I knew you very similar to a
- 28:00Gracie Abrams song. You're thinking, oh, Gracie
- 28:02Abrams, that's random, right? But then the first lyric is I
- 28:07knew you through the days of the blades of the grass in the
- 28:10summer, very similar to us saying I know, you know, it is
- 28:15not a fucking coincidence. I think this is a trilogy.
- 28:17And then so the lovers and cowboy like me, they met.
- 28:21They had this tragic love story that may have ended.
- 28:24Then all of a sudden it's like, do you miss us?
- 28:27Do you miss us? We had we were calling and we
- 28:30were Babylon lovers. There's a show involved.
- 28:33Maybe they've met up. She's wondering if the other
- 28:36person misses her. Then we have a reconciliation
- 28:40song between these people that is connecting through the I knew
- 28:44you and I know you know I knew you through the days of the
- 28:47blades of the grass in the summer.
- 28:49All of a sudden, it's been a long time, but seeing you
- 28:51tonight, I remembered I love you came back when it mattered.
- 28:55Maybe at the show times we could fight like brothers.
- 28:57That reminds me of Brokeback Mountain cowboy like me coded
- 29:01for fucking sure. So I literally do think that
- 29:03this is a trilogy and this is the final chapter of a love that
- 29:09is coming back together. The show business group chat, if
- 29:12you guys are in it on TikTok, which is just like Taylor
- 29:14Nation. And I wonder when they're going
- 29:16to change that to a new era. But when they announced the
- 29:18song, they said love has ways of bringing things back to life,
- 29:21which is obviously makes sense with Toy Story, but also reminds
- 29:25me of like bringing things back from the dead.
- 29:28The tombstone Daisy pin this love that she thought was gone
- 29:32and dead like Taylor Swift rights for other people, but she
- 29:35also feels things in it as well. It also really reminds me of
- 29:39this love. This love is alive back from the
- 29:41dead. This love came back to me, and I
- 29:43don't think these random lyrical full connections are by
- 29:46accident. Obviously we noticed trends with
- 29:48Taylor Swift songs, but this song almost feels like a
- 29:50compilation of literally all of her gayest songs put into one
- 29:54fucking song to be the most obvious gaylier song of all
- 29:57time. Except it is Shrouded and Toy
- 30:00Story and so we think it's about Toy Story and on the surface
- 30:04it's not a gay song, but it connects to all of these gaylor
- 30:08songs. And I do think if we really
- 30:10looked into it, it would be actually connected to maybe
- 30:13every single era. I haven't gone that far, but I
- 30:16want to talk about these other song connections because this
- 30:18love, I think maybe it's too early to be about Curly.
- 30:21Maybe it's about Diana, but I think it's a gay song.
- 30:23Bobby. There's connections to Cardigan
- 30:26and Betty. And of course, August in
- 30:28Cardigan she goes, but I knew you dancing in your Levi's drunk
- 30:31under a street light. I knew you.
- 30:33I think it's another trilogy and Betty, the whole idea of like
- 30:36coming back for someone also very similar to I look in
- 30:39people's windows from TTPD, which is no coincidence because
- 30:42I think she's maybe singing about her Carly in TTPDI.
- 30:46Look in people's windows in case you're at their table.
- 30:48What if your eyes looked up and met mine one more time and I
- 30:51knew what I knew She says came back when it mattered.
- 30:53I saw you standing there in the light of the window wearing that
- 30:56same smile, but now you look me in the eye.
- 30:58This is no coincidence. This is not just about Toy
- 31:01Story. Like duh.
- 31:02Plus I fucking theory in 2026. Come on now.
- 31:05Also reminds me of Gold Rush and I knew what I knew you.
- 31:09She writes parachutes for for the free fall of being younger.
- 31:12I was like, what does that remind me of?
- 31:13Oh, Gold Rush, I don't like that.
- 31:15Falling feels like flying until the bone crush.
- 31:18That's crazy. Free fall and falling feels like
- 31:21flying. And that's obviously about
- 31:23Carly. Then we have these connections
- 31:25to Cornelius St. and Maroon 2. Very gay, curly cloth coated
- 31:29songs, right? And I knew what I knew you, she
- 31:31says. I memorized the sound of your
- 31:32barefoot steps in Cornelius St. She says barefoot in the
- 31:35kitchen. Sacred new beginnings.
- 31:36Then in maroon, she says, the one I was dancing with in New
- 31:39York, No shoes, right in Afterglow, The Great War and
- 31:43hits different. We have connections all to this
- 31:46blue line and I knew what I knew you, she says.
- 31:49I knew it, I knew you all your Blues like a mood ring changing
- 31:52colors. I know a lot of people associate
- 31:54blue with Joe, but it doesn't make sense at this point because
- 31:57there's been so many blue references and songs that if you
- 32:00did think Joe and Taylor were in this long relationship, it
- 32:04doesn't make any sense because some of these songs are
- 32:05objectively not about Joe. Probably your blue is like a
- 32:08mood range changing colors and after glow, she says I blew
- 32:11things out of proportion. Now you're blue in the Great
- 32:14War, she says. Looked at me with looked up at
- 32:16me with honor and truth. Broken and blue and hits
- 32:19different she says catastrophic Blues.
- 32:21Moving on was always easy for me to do.
- 32:23It's absolutely fucking crazy running wild.
- 32:27It's been a long time. Oh my God.
- 32:28Also it's been a long time. Reminds me of closure.
- 32:30It's been a long time but seeing the shape of your name still
- 32:33spells out pain. Girl it's been a long time.
- 32:36Life has ways of leaving those days behind.
- 32:38But seeing you tonight like the arrows to her, I remembered I
- 32:41loved you came back when it mattered.
- 32:43I saw you standing there and lay at the window wearing that same
- 32:45smile. It just spells out this very
- 32:47specific time for me. I watched you drive around the
- 32:51bend car. Everyone calls her car, right?
- 32:54What I thought would be the last time I saw my friend, quote UN
- 32:57quote. But love has ways of bringing
- 32:59things back to life. All you said was hi, it's me.
- 33:03Hi, I'm the problem. That's me, but I knew it.
- 33:05I knew you. Also, Speaking of the song,
- 33:09besides the lyrics, I really love this song.
- 33:13Listen, is it my favorite Taylor Swift song ever?
- 33:15No, and that's OK because I like it.
- 33:18It's very country. I like the twang.
- 33:20It reminds me of Debut. I do think we're still going to
- 33:23get debut, but again, I'll go into my theory in like literally
- 33:262 minutes. I think it's really cute.
- 33:28It sounds very fun. I think Jack Antonoff is so good
- 33:32for this song. I hear a lot of like the type of
- 33:35instrumentals he did on like Ivy in August where it just gets
- 33:38like deeper and warmer and you're like yes, like it just
- 33:41really Revs up. So I really enjoy it.
- 33:43It reminds me of like That's when from Fearless Deluxe or
- 33:48bonus tracks from the Vault. So I really do enjoy it.
- 33:51The last few things I wanted to talk about are from the promo
- 33:54because all of the clouds that we're seeing, the imagery, I
- 34:00think it all goes back to karma. Not only is it Toy Story, but I
- 34:04think it works out so well because it all goes back to
- 34:06karma. We see it in the Lavender Haze
- 34:08music video. I think what clouds symbolize
- 34:11for Taylor is getting above it, right?
- 34:14Reaching past it. This like world that she's
- 34:17trapped in this like glass closet and she's trying to reach
- 34:21the summit and beyond it. And that's also why the first US
- 34:27lesbian magazine magazine was called The Ladder and the cover
- 34:31is a ladder going up into a cloud, which Taylor objectively
- 34:36has many of these symbols and the visuals that Eris tour and
- 34:39also literally on stage during lavender haze.
- 34:41It's actually kind of crazy. It also reminds us a lot of
- 34:43karma, the music video. And that's why I think a lot of
- 34:46this comes back to karma because I'm a karma truther.
- 34:49See my last episode for a lot more about karma.
- 34:51In the music video, we see her holding a cup of coffee with
- 34:53clouds in it. That has always reminded me of
- 34:56Carly Simon's song You're So Vain, which Taylor Swift has
- 34:59said is is her favorite song. And also in the Vogue questions,
- 35:0373 Questions interview, the same one where she mentions Big Sur
- 35:08as a honeymoon spot and that Karma is real.
- 35:12She mentions that song Crazy. Also in Karma of the music
- 35:17video, she's like up in the clouds with ice spice up on this
- 35:20tower where I think she's bringing all of her friends to
- 35:23the Summit, which a lot of people think is going to be her
- 35:25new record label. Apparently there's a record
- 35:27label that Artie's called The Summit.
- 35:29Maybe she's going to buy them out because I think it's a great
- 35:31name. I'm sorry to that record label,
- 35:33but it's not looking good. I feel like she's going to take
- 35:36it. So I do think clouds for her
- 35:38symbolizes like getting out of this space and moving beyond
- 35:43that and moving beyond like what Taylor Swift and Miss Americana
- 35:48is for her, which I will get into in one second.
- 35:51Also, pink, orange, yellow tulips in the photo.
- 35:54Some people think this photo is from years before maybe, but I
- 35:58don't really think it changes anything.
- 36:00Those are lesbian flowers. The cowboy like me references
- 36:04like I had like I mentioned before, and her lesbian ass pose
- 36:07and lesbian ass jacket. It's not even funny.
- 36:11This might even be from a Debut TV photo shoot.
- 36:15I would not be surprised if she released debut TV because she
- 36:18just wanted to like get this shit.
- 36:19I think she's going to be on a six month fucking roll starting
- 36:23a month ago, right? And I also do think because a
- 36:26lot of this goes back to karma and karma the music video, I do
- 36:30think she could be already egging for TS13, which might not
- 36:35come until like I would theorize December 13th, 2026.
- 36:41And finally, maybe you guys already saw this, but Jesse the
- 36:45cowgirl in this fucking movie Toy Story, her last name is
- 36:50Pride. Taylor chose to announce the
- 36:52song on June 1st, the first day of Pride month.
- 36:54She could have announced it the week before or the second day.
- 36:57The fact that it was the first day is insane.
- 37:00So what does all of this mean? There was a lot happening.
- 37:05I think there's a lot that's going to happen.
- 37:08The fact that this is all happening during Pride Month, I
- 37:10think it's no coincidence. I think this is her sparkling
- 37:12summer. But here's my theory that I have
- 37:16been teasing. I think all of this is setting
- 37:19us up for a story that can make sense from all angles but will
- 37:24still be shocking for everyone. I believe that the wedding will
- 37:29technically happen, but I think it is going to be so not what
- 37:35Normie Swifty's think. I think SG and I do think there
- 37:40will be a project tied to it. I think she's going to announce
- 37:44her record label around the same time that she has her wedding or
- 37:48she will release another album. And it's going to be so weird
- 37:52for people that she is promoting something at the same exact time
- 37:55that she's getting married. And people are going to be like,
- 37:57damn, that is so promotional. And that's the whole point.
- 38:00I think the wedding will be outlandishly performative,
- 38:04outlandishly fan centered, that it will force people to be like,
- 38:11what the fuck? I think Karlie Kloss will be
- 38:14there and I think they will slowly start.
- 38:18We will slowly start seeing more and more of them.
- 38:21I don't think they're just going to not have a wedding because
- 38:24again, like I said, I think she wants the climax of this Miss
- 38:28Americana love story era. I think this is setting us up
- 38:32for Debut and Reputation because I think she's going to release
- 38:34Debut and then I do believe that we are going to perhaps, if this
- 38:39is PR, see a breakup between the beloved couple of Tavis.
- 38:44I think the fact that we're already seeing articles being
- 38:47like he's back in the football season, this wedding is not what
- 38:52we expected. Maybe he wanted the spotlight
- 38:54too much. I think they're going to have a
- 38:56shocking breakup. What is better than a wedding,
- 39:00better than a love album, a divorce album?
- 39:03And I think that's a perfect time to release Reputation.
- 39:07And I do believe because we've already been seeing Taylor and
- 39:11Carly in the headlines, that Carly is going to be helping
- 39:15Taylor through the breakup. It's going to be almost heated
- 39:18rivalry coded, like they're going to be slowly and slowly
- 39:21being seen more together. She's going to have a key to her
- 39:23apartment again. And I think all of this is going
- 39:26to set us up for a record-breaking TS 13, which is
- 39:30going to be her way of getting out of Taylor Swift.
- 39:34Miss Americana and pushing past it, I think TS 13, she's going
- 39:38to come out in a way. I think it's also going to be a
- 39:42divorce album or breakup album. And I think her having such a
- 39:48huge TS13 album will free her from almost like the album cycle
- 39:56she's been on and the specificity of these specific
- 39:59eras. And I think she will take a
- 40:02break from music, maybe not forever and maybe not a long
- 40:05time, but I do think she will set up a record label, direct a
- 40:09movie, write a movie. I'm sure she already has written
- 40:13one, release a book, maybe make a play, and then be able to live
- 40:18more of her free life. There is just such a rising
- 40:22action towards a climax that I don't think we're going to see
- 40:26Taylor Swift on the same trajectory that we've been
- 40:29seeing her the last three years and it's going to set the stage
- 40:32for her to be able to come out and perhaps with Carly down the
- 40:35road. The climax is the spectacle.
- 40:38That will be the wedding. I do think we will get a climax,
- 40:42whether that's a concert wedding, like I'm picturing Jlo
- 40:47and marry me because what the fuck is happening?
- 40:50I can't promise you this is what's going to happen.
- 40:52I think it makes sense because it seems like it could happen.
- 40:56I don't think Taylor is going to be like gotcha this was always
- 40:59fake with Travis. Like I don't think she's ever
- 41:02going to do that if it is just PR and if she's actually in love
- 41:05with Travis. I hope to God they have their
- 41:09own private wedding because if their actual weddings on MSG
- 41:13that's a lot. I think that we are going to
- 41:16utterly enjoy every single moment.
- 41:18Can't promise I'm going to make a Taylor Swift episode.
- 41:21You know every episode I would like to make a pride one but
- 41:25listen if she keeps on doing crazy shit I might just have to.
- 41:28Please let me know your thoughts you guys.
- 41:30I really want to know what you think is going to happen.
- 41:33I haven't been this excited since maybe before Life of a
- 41:35Showgirl when I actually had anticipation for for that album
- 41:40even though I have really grown to like it.
- 41:42Reminder to please rate me 5 stars if you enjoy this podcast
- 41:46because of the homophobes and I have merch on my website and
- 41:49bonus episode so go check that out.
- 41:51I love you guys so much. Happy pride are we blessed are
- 41:55we blessed? Gaylors on top, love you guys,
- 41:57bye.