Latest / Hope + Possibilities: Trust, Leadership + Strategic Foresight / Rated: Human AI Detectors, Slop Buttons, and the New Price of Reputation
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- 0:23So thank you for joining me.
- 0:25I'm Nola Simon.
- 0:25I'm the host of the Ho- the Hope and Possibilities podcast.
- 0:29I wanted to talk about something that somebody I used to work with wrote.
- 0:36I'm not gonna identify her because it's not really helpful, but essentially this
- 0:40c-clip is basically… I'm gonna read it.
- 0:42"With advancements in video technology and AI, we have the ability to
- 0:46capture not just information, but the conversation, explanation, stories, and
- 0:50context that make expertise so valuable.
- 0:53Even more importantly, we can make that knowledge discoverable when
- 0:56somebody needs it, instead of relying on knowing exactly who to ask.
- 1:00The wisdom of the people who came before us no longer has
- 1:03to disappear when they do.
- 1:04How do we make sure the knowledge today's experts have spent decades building is
- 1:09still helping someone for 20 years ago?"
- 1:13So I have an issue with this
- 1:22Your conversations, your stories, your explanation, that's all of
- 1:28your history, your personality, your experiences, your expertise.
- 1:37It's not just knowledge that's work-related, it's your
- 1:42perspective and your point of view
- 1:46And so for one, what consent do you have to give for a company to have
- 1:53access to that long after you leave?
- 1:57And not only that who is held accountable if that information is
- 2:01actually used in such a way that
- 2:07Doesn't work out.
- 2:09So if your information is something that you have on file and you leave
- 2:13the company and five years later they come across something that you said
- 2:17or did, but the context has completely changed, and you have no control or
- 2:22influence over how the company uses it, and then it backfires and blows up,
- 2:29are they gonna try to hold you accountable?
- 2:32So I wouldn't think that employment law would allow it, but the way that
- 2:36everything has been changing these days, the questions are really rife here.
- 2:41It's for one, do they have your consent to use this past when you leave?
- 2:46Now, there are organizations… The organization I used to work
- 2:50with, it was financial services.
- 2:52All of our recordings, all of our emails, anything we wrote, we knew that was
- 2:56going to be subject to audit, and it was gonna be kept on record for I think it
- 3:00was six or seven years at this point.
- 3:02I can't remember exactly.
- 3:05But again, this is, are auditors gonna come in?
- 3:07Are they looking for documentation?
- 3:09Did somebody tell ch- tell you to change an amount of a
- 3:11withdrawal, and is that documented?
- 3:13Can they find that, that email or that call?
- 3:17But how do you discover that information, right?
- 3:22How do we… What did she say here?
- 3:26"The wisdom of the people who came before us no longer has
- 3:28to disappear when they do."
- 3:34And we can make that knowledge discoverable when somebody
- 3:37needs it instead of relying on knowing exactly who to ask.
- 3:41So that's the type of system that needs a whole infrastructure.
- 3:45So not only are they gonna have access to everything that you've done in the past,
- 3:51they're actually going to be building out ways to make that discoverable.
- 3:54So that means it's going to be indexed, it's going to be searched,
- 3:57it's going to be pattern matched, it's going to be interpreted in such a
- 4:03way, and are names gonna be attached?
- 4:07So if they're publishing something using you as a source, are they gonna cite you?
- 4:15And if this is a company that you no longer want to be associated with, are
- 4:20there questions in terms of how that information is being used with integrity
- 4:28when that might not be a relationship that you want to maintain
- 4:35And you're not comfortable with how that's going to impact your
- 4:40reputation your digital footprint and not only that, compensation.
- 4:46So if you were so valuable that the information that you gave a company,
- 4:52your conversations, your stories, the context, all those explanations are so
- 4:57valuable three to five years or even 20 years later, which would be rare because
- 5:02things do change, how are you compensated?
- 5:07What is the value of access to that knowledge, and why do the companies get to
- 5:13own that without compensating the staff?
- 5:20If you continue to be an employee, you would continue to
- 5:23get paid, and that's the deal.
- 5:27But now it's almost like the employment contract that, that agreement between
- 5:31employee and employer has changed because it's not just the information you give
- 5:36to somebody while you're employed and being compensated through payroll.
- 5:41It's the value of what you performed and what you did while you were
- 5:45there long after when you leave and once that payroll stops.
- 5:50Does that not deserve to be compensated?
- 5:54So this question stopped me.
- 5:58And again, the person who wrote this, she's a good person.
- 6:01She's I respected her.
- 6:03I liked working with her.
- 6:05I'm flabbergasted by the perspective that the company owns all of this
- 6:13without any sort of negotiation.
- 6:17That floors me.
- 6:20And what do we have to do to renegotiate that so that
- 6:28This is made explicit.
- 6:29Is it legislation?
- 6:31Is it individual negotiation?
- 6:33Is it structural?
- 6:35Whose information is deemed to be important?
- 6:38Is there ageism at play?
- 6:39Is there racism?
- 6:40Is there misogyny?
- 6:43Who's misinterpreting because of bias?
- 6:48I just-- It floors me.
- 6:50It really floors me.
- 6:51And so yes, this topic is technically about AI, but it's also about trust,
- 6:58reputation, and consent, and the value of what it is to be an employee.
- 7:07And it's not just employees, it's anybody would have a contract with that employee--
- 7:11with that employer who gets recorded.
- 7:14So then it becomes contract employees freelancers consultants, anybody
- 7:20who's being recorded and captured by AI through video, through writing,
- 7:25through all of the different ways that you could be monitored by AI now.
- 7:31And that's not the deal.
- 7:33That's not in the contracts.
- 7:34This is something that we have to look at.
- 7:37And to me, I think it very much is relevant to the future of
- 7:43careers, the future of professional relationships between companies and
- 7:48organizations, and how we value each other as coworkers, as collaborators
- 8:01It, it's a really big question.
- 8:03Anyways, thank you for listening.
- 8:05I hope, I'd love to hear your thoughts if you have any
- 8:08insights or opinions or stories.