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Hot or Not? Aircraft under £50k · Flyer Magazine

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  SPEAKER_05: Hello and welcome to this week's Flash Show from Waterpick.
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  SPEAKER_05: My name's Ian Seeger.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm EdHex.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm Dave Corderwood.
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  SPEAKER_05: Coming up hot or not where we take a look through classifieds and find our favourite things which are looking pretty damn hot and our things which are looking not quite so hot.
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  SPEAKER_05: On a budget, too.
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  SPEAKER_05: On a budget.
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  SPEAKER_05: £50,000.
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  SPEAKER_05: £50K.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hope everyone's stuck to their budget.
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  SPEAKER_05: Let's hope.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sort of.
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  SPEAKER_05: Thank you very much to Sky Demon for supporting the channel.
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  SPEAKER_05: I think this tip is very opposite given that the weather outside is lovely, but I'm not sure it's going to remain that way for the rest of the week.
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  SPEAKER_05: So here we go with Sky Demon's top tip.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi, I'm Tim from Sky Demon.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, and uh I feel it gets into kind of psychedelia when Tim starts talking about blue uh you'll notice the blue tadpoles.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know.
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  SPEAKER_05: There are some tadpoles, and there's some different shades of blue when you use the timer, isn't there, from the kind of in the past and in the future.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_05: The future's always bluer than the past.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sky Demon predicting the future.
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  SPEAKER_05: Creating the future.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, talking of predicting the future, shall we see what Simon has got in store for us for the weather?
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  SPEAKER_04: I hope it's going to be flyable because for the first time in this year, I flew on Saturday.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_05: Well, and so did I.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_04: Whoa!
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  SPEAKER_05: Not in the same airplane in the same space, but I flew as well.
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  SPEAKER_05: It was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, let's see if we can do it again.
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  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Evening all, how are you this evening?
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Hope all is well with you.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, another winter weekend ahead, but at least we're getting closer to March, aren't we?
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  SPEAKER_00: At least things should, he says, fingers crossed, should start to improve.
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  SPEAKER_00: I keep looking, I just don't see high pressure building for any length of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we've got to make the most out of the windows as they appear.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna use the uh icon EU model again and taking us through the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: The times of the charts are here in the top right hand corner.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is Friday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um notice this is an area of rain that's in the west on Friday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Isle bars are closer together.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's a wet, it's a windy start to the day with that front passing eastwards during the course of the morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: It clears eastern coast as early afternoon, and then for most of us it's a breezy west to southwestly day.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think um typical basis of around 3,000 feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tops are probably coming in at about 15,000 feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, through many areas sheltered from the western coast, but across western parts of Scotland, western parts of Wales, northwest England, and some heavy showers here, gusty winds as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Further east, like I say, through those sheltered areas should be a bit better, but still gust of wind 25 to 30 knots out of many areas, and in the west, we could be 40, 45 knots.
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  SPEAKER_00: Heavier rain arriving in Ireland later on, as you can see there, but that spreads its way quickly eastwards late afternoon and takes quite a heavy band of rain across the country during the course of the night.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that leaves us by Saturday morning fairly breezy and fairly cloudy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I do think the western and southern coasts and hills are going to be troubled by drizzle and some low clouds.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can really see it highlighted across Scotland and across northwest England.
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  SPEAKER_00: Basically, less than a thousand feet, the top is about twelve thousand feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: More um central and eastern areas protected from that westly wind, um, will be better than 2,000 for basically tops of around about 10,000 feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I wouldn't relax and drizzle spreading in from time to time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Still gusty winds as well, 25 to 30 knots.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then as you can see here through the afternoon, we see these bands of drizzle kind of dragging eastwards and fading away as they do.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: But still leaving us with many western and southern areas with drizzle and uh rain and still quite breezy.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's sort of doable, but you've got to be ready for those gusty winds and probably staying away from the channel and for many western coasts as well because of the increased risk of drizzle.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, through the night into Sunday, we see fronts passing their way eastwards, slowly clearing away from southern and eastern areas on Sunday morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think what they will do is leave us with uh quite a bit of cloud, particularly for England and Wales.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Western and southern coasts again are sort of choked up by drizzle, by low cloud, less than a thousand foot bases, and as I say, drizzle at times.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Brighter in Scotland, shallows affect it in the west, but for most essential and eastern areas are much better conditions here.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's still quite a breezy day, it still goes over 20 to 25 knots, particularly in the east, it could be 30 knots or 35 knots for northeast England.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so still fairly breezy, fairly murky, particularly for those western and southern coasts and hills as well.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Local flying again kind of just brings it to mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, you see here on Sunday through the channel with a kind of low cloud and drizzle and poor visibility through the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's not exactly the best of the weekends, but there probably is on the flying to be found in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, if you've already been to aviation weather school part one, I have my part two course which focuses in on security and making predictions up to 14 days in about and using some of the data that you can now get out there that perhaps you weren't aware of, which makes a predicting for online because it's so much easier.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm holding the part one uh sorry, the part two course on the Tuesday evenings of the next Tuesday, the 24th of February and the 3rd of March between the 6 at 8 pm and 9pm and places remain on that course.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or my part one course is on.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you want to let you know as soon as I answer the next day, then uh just send me an email.
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  SPEAKER_00: Use the contact as if you want to weather school.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I will leave you with that for now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have a safe, have a fantastic flying weekend, and uh I'll see you next week.
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  unknown: Bye for now.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_05: I think there's more rain on the way.
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  SPEAKER_05: We can say it's gonna be a bit wetter.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right, onto some news.
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  SPEAKER_05: What have we got?
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think I'm first up on the news this week.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um the big news of the week, and this happened just as we were going to we don't go to press anymore, do we?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_05: Just as we would have recording the show.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_05: Recording the show last week.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_05: Gasco is gone.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_05: Or is I should say to be more accurate, Gasco is going after six they they've been around for sixty, more than sixty years, in fact.
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  SPEAKER_05: They started in 1964.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_05: Who were Gasco for people who don't know?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_05: General Aviation Safety Council.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_05: It's a safety organization that's funded by lots of different people, and they kind of over the years there's been people that are funding it a bit less, shall we say, as priorities have changed.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um and they kind of they they sat down and the chairman, Captain Niels Jameson, made a statement and said it was a difficult decision after more than sixty years of of serving the community, but it was not sustainable.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_05: We are winding down in an orderly fashion.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_05: We remain solvent, um, but the future was not looking like it would be remaining solvent if they carried on.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_05: Um so they'll be doing that.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_04: I guess we have to remember that um it in its heyday, Gasco was had CAA funding.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and I uh I'm pretty sure everyone who's watch who's watching at the moment has been to a Gasco safety safety evening, has probably done a Gasco um um pre-flight inspection on an aeroplane at a show in in in the city.
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  SPEAKER_05: And may I don't think any of us have may have even attended the airspace infringement awareness course, which was run by Gasco on behalf of the Civil Aviation Authority.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um if they're going, I wonder who's gonna do all of that.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I don't know who's gonna do it.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_05: I know that the talks are going on as to find a new provider for them.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_05: Um but I don't know who's gonna do it.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um I I think that's probably fair to say that most most of the people I've spoken to who have been on a course said it was a good course.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_05: But it's also probably the most controversial thing they've done.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_04: They've done as well.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_04: But so as far as safety evenings go, I mean I looked in my logbook and I had a stamp from John Thorpe, famous dreamer.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_05: I think mine was after you.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_05: I had a couple of years after you for some reason.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_04: But um yeah, it's uh it's it's sad that they're going.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, times are changing, aren't they?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_05: So times are changing.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_05: I mean let's not forget Astral got the safety contract from the CA, which which would have taken a chunk of change from Gasco.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_05: And Astral really are a not in-person organization.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_05: There's done delivered by by webinars.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um you know, time times change.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_05: And I think there will be a bit of a void, and I think that void will be filled in one way or another.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_05: I hope so.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_05: Somehow.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I hope so.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_04: But um yeah, and yeah, to to guys like Mike Donahue.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um I very much doubt we've seen the last of Mike.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_05: I hope so.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I hope we haven't.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I hope we haven't.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_05: But there you go.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_05: So sad news.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_05: Gas go's gone.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_05: Or going, I should say.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_05: Winding down.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's a good thing.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_05: Winding down in an orderly fashion.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, every let's be honest, everything that the Gasco does is does it in an orderly fashion.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_05: It's a very orderly organization.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_04: Talking of not well, and uh the polar opposite to not orderly is the chaos of the world of Red Bull.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_04: And and if you yes, if you thought Red Bull, I've seen all the stunts that anyone can ever do with an aeroplane and uh and kind of select your own building, structure, vessel, person, whatever.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_04: Uh this weekend they went, you know, actually what we need to do is land an aeroplane on a train.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_04: And um and I d when I heard about this, I went, oh, that's probably um uh Luke Capila, do you remember him?
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_04: The su the super cub that landed on the hotel helipad in Dubai.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_04: You went, Oh, he's probably landed his his super cub on a train.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_04: But no, this was actually um Red Bull athlete Dario Costa flying his edge 540, which is not your average not the airplane I would expect to think of if I was going, you know, I'll I need something to land on a train.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_04: Because this is a this is one of the Red Bull racing aeroplanes.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_04: I mean you must have done that because that's what he had, surely.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_04: But you go yeah, it's it's a bit like going driving school car.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_05: Can I borrow your uh Can I borrow your carbon car?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I'll all right, I'll use my I'll use mine then.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_04: But it's uh it's uh but anyway, this took place in in th I've got to get this pronunciation right because it's difficult, but in in Afjon Krashisa in Turkey.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_04: And that's probably still wrong.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um anyway, they chose this because in Turkey I'm guessing they have a relaxed attitude to this kind of this kind of adventure taking.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_04: But more importantly, there was a train that had uh two and a half kilometers of straight track and which gave a 50-second window for uh Costa uh to try and try to try this landing.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_04: And apparently the train was doing sixty-five knots, he was doing eighty knots in the edge 540.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_04: There was three knots of tailwind as well, because I guess you can't, you know, they can't turn the truck into wind.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_04: But anyway, they did this um and it was multiple containers.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_04: Interestingly, they were all kind of open, I guess, to reduce wake turbulence.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_04: But still, train moving is a pretty blunt tool, isn't it?
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_04: A train.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm guessing and you watch the video, and it is pretty pretty damn impressive.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_04: Not a completely full-stop landing and get out and kind of pat the aeroplane.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_04: It was like touchdown.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_04: It was a touch and go, was it?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_04: Touchdown.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_04: I'm here, right, go again.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_04: So but really, really impressive.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and apparently the aeroplane was pretty standard.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_04: Um uh there was apparently uh one of the engineers had added some custom strikes and some vortex generators to it.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I'm guessing to maybe give it some slightly better low-speed handling.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_04: Um and uh Costa underwent cognitive preparation, which I wondered might be someone sitting him down for an interview going, are you sure you want to do this?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_04: Uh but apparently it was um it was uh time movement anticipation training which he had in the um in the Red Bull Athlete Training Center.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_04: So um And apparently uh uh you might have noticed on the side of the one of the containers was um a logo for RIMAC Automotive, uh who were the supercar makers.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_04: Apparently they did some practice using a RIMAC Nivera hypercar, which he he practiced kind of landing on as a well, using as a target uh in the run-up to this.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: But apparently he had to make the last two hundred meters blind because because being a mid- Yeah, it's being a mid-wing air mid-wing aircraft, you can't see it.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_04: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_04: It's a it's it's uh it's a completely illogical choice as an aeroplane.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_04: But I have to say, I mean compared to other things Costa's done, and you might remember he flew also in Turkey.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um in 2021, which I reckon is more terrifying than landing on a train.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_04: Partly because that was at speed.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, there you go.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_05: It's like toddl toddle toddle ah, there you go.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_05: What what what stunt is gonna be next, I wonder from Rebel?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_05: Are they gonna Are they gonna sit down a bunch of athletes and go, read this Civil Aviation Authority legislation, and afterwards we'll test you, see if you can really push the edge and understand it.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go now and say I don't think they can top this, only because they can go, you know, the flyer show said, I don't think they can top this.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I was watching Big Air last night.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: This is the uh latest Olympic sport, and I reckoned you could do big air with with an aerobatic aeroplane.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like a ski plane.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Well he's already done.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: Dario Costa has already flown down the Hanunkon course to strife.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that yeah, he was that.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna end up with with with people like flying and people doing big air over the top, aren't they?
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_05: In danger of dropping their ski poles into a proper Trevor Burrus.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_04: I fear the International Olympic Committee would would pause in the safety review with that.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_04: That's I think we should leave that there.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, good idea.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_03: Dave.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I I've got three stories actually.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: Three?
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's all about pilot careers.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's just just this week, they've all come out together.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_03: First of all, uh the the big one which came out this morning, which is that Jet 2, the uh British uh holiday company and its own with its own airline, uh they've opened applications for what it calls Flight Path.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: This is its uh fully funded airline pilot training course.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um that's just opened today.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: You can imagine there's going to be a lot of people going for that.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um you have to take a little interactive uh course.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: When you go to the application centre, which is online, you have to do watch this little video and it takes you through an interactive course.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_03: This is so they uh you under you really understand what it's all about being an airline pilot.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: I guess they've had quite a lot of that.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_05: A little bit more than a little interactive course, they I'd have thought, wouldn't it?
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, just this is before you make your application.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: This is you have to watch this before you can apply.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_04: Is it like airliner?
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_04: What pilot?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't watch a whole thing all the way through.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um not for you then, Dave.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_03: Not for me.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not for me.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: The other big story, which was two other stories, but there's the big one last week was uh um Anthony Petifer, who's well known in the uh airline pilot training industry, um he's opened another school.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: He's brought back uh the Oxford uh name brand, uh Oxford uh airline training, he calls it.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um you remember at Oxford Airport?
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: There always used to be Oxford Air Training.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oxford Air Training.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um and Anthony was involved in that.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um certain section of the market, is he's calling it a kind of a finishing school for modular training pilots.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_03: Modular is where you you go through your ATPL course in chunks.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: So to go on his uh head is to his school, you've already got your PPLA, you've already got a night rating, you've already sat your ATPL exams, um, and uh you'll go there and you do your multi multi-engine interpret rating, you could do your UPRT upset recovery training, and finally you end up with uh what's known as an APS MCC, airline pilot standard multi-crew cooperation course.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_03: So that means you're airline ready, basically.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_03: The only thing after that is a type rating.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: The last story is from leading edge aviation, who also happen to be based at London, Oxford.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: They're offering sixteen mostly paid for ATPL courses combined with an instructor course.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_05: When you say mostly paid for, you mean like twelve out of the sixteen are paid for, or a percentage of them are paid for sixteen are paid for, uh up to eighty-two percent of the full course.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_04: And I think this they all do they all result in you getting a uh a time period of you get a a guaranteed job as an instructor with leading edge.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: Aaron Ross Powell That's right, yes.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: So basically you're paying back a little bit to eat leading edge, if you like, by being an instructor for them at the end of your training.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_05: Right, okay.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_05: Um, it's a whole different world, that the professional flight training industry.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_05: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's going through a bit of a boom at the moment.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: It is, it is.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_03: But it does benefit general aviation.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: Pilot training is part of general aviation because the airfields where these uh where the training is going on, they're all quite busy.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: I mean Oxford is really busy at the moment.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_03: And um so it all benefits general aviation as well.
• 18:08
  unknown: Yep.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_04: And instructors have to all instructors have to come from somewhere.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_05: They certainly do.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_04: And so do pilots.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_05: Right then.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_05: So who in this week's traditional quiz, who wants to read out the free landing fees that are available to you in the month of February when it looks like there are some flyable days, or at least there have been.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I know I know I can remember one because I can remember Cakebec Farm, also known as Hombeck.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: There's also Chroma.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um Chroma, you could have crab, you know, if you go to a cafe there.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh if you're talking about food.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_03: Netherhorpe and Sherba.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_05: What else would you be talking about?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: Netherhorpe and Sherburn in Elmet.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_04: Good places to go.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_03: We won't go there, isn't it?
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_04: And obviously uh the the Fly Club free landings are all part of your fabulous Flyer Club membership, which is just six pounds a month.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: It is.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: And available to you along with a whole bunch of webinars, uh massive back catalogue of those, uh, and plus member discounts, and it's all to be found at flyer.co.uk forward slash membership.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely, six pounds a month.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_05: Just sign up now.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_05: You know you really want to, and we really want you to as well.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_05: Come on board, come on board.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um Right.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_05: So the main part of the show.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_05: We thought last week we did a whole thing about airfields and and we were talking airfield armour gather and airfield angst.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_05: There's a whole bunch of airfields that are under a lot of pressure.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_05: We thought it was time to lighten the mood a little bit.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: Look through the classified, we kind of set ourselves a budget of 50k.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_05: And we were answering the question hot or not.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_05: So there you go.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_05: So um, oh dear, it looks like I'm I'm up first.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, first right.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_05: Hot or not.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_05: Well, my choice for hot in the classified.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_05: Look at this.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_05: This has got to be one of the most beautiful aircraft that you'll ever see.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_05: This is a Chiltern monoplane DW1.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_05: Beautiful.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_05: Ed is is enjoying the trousers on the T.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_04: I love I I absolutely adore the Chilton, partly because I am a I am a confirmed trouser undercarriage addict.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um my only sadness with this is that they are for smaller people and I don't fit.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_04: Or I I've been told I I wouldn't fit.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_05: You should try for a start.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: But you're right, they are for smaller people, and this is definitely not an airplane for me, not being a smaller person.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_05: But it is.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_05: But it's still a hot airplane, I reckon.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, better still, it was kind of it first flew in 1937 and it was developed on the Chiltern estate, which is just north of Hungerford.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um so pretty pretty damn local to here by a guy called Reggie Ward and Andrew Dalrymple.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_05: We love that.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_05: That is Rimpo.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_04: I'd I'm I'm I'm that's that's that's like a that's definitely a surname of the 20s and 30s.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_05: It is, isn't it?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_05: Definitely.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_05: Um it was powered originally by a 32 horsepower Cardinal Ford engine, of which I know not very much.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_04: No, well, but interestingly, there um there are there's not many Chilterns around, but there are still there's at least one flying.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_04: And there's another one.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, actually, Shuttleworth might have a tr then I think there's also one at Breat uh Breton.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and there's also one about to fly, not far from here.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't know if that will have the carbon four engine, because this particular one, Juju, it's the home-built one.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_05: It's one of the home-built ones.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_05: In fact, it was only completed in 2015.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_05: So it's it's almost brand new.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_05: It's got about 300 hours on it on airframing engine, and it's powered by a 65 horsepower water micron engine.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_05: Which is I mean, it does it's got twice the original horsepower.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it's the home builder choice.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's it's that engine is kind of the the perf everyone who's home building them now, that's what engine they use.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_04: And it is, it's like it's being able to I just can't get over because what's the price of this?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_04: This is astonishing.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_04: The price£28,500.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_05: £28,500.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_04: Which for
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_05: The craftsmanship that has gone into this you just can't even factory building them by hand and selling them for twenty eight thousand five hundred pounds.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_05: Because you'd never you'd be bankrupt.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_04: And I I feel I feel that as on a on a hot or not thing, I maybe some people will disagree, but this this for me is a is a mic drop.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this is like i I mean, it looks gorgeous.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_05: The craftsmanship's amazing.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_05: The performance, I mean, this is not verified, we haven't done a flight test or anything.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_05: 120 this particular one with the 65 horsepower.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_05: 120 knots and a 37 knot store speed.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_05: And there are some old pictures of because they they had a gathering a while ago on the Chiltern estate.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_05: Celebrating a anniversary.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_05: I haven't I I've had a quick look on Google Earth, couldn't see any obviously large runways, but there's obviously no shortage of land.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_05: But a 37 knots and weighing not very much.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's not going to need runway.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_04: It has flaps as well.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: But it is that is a beautiful thing.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_04: I fear to ask you what is your not hot?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_05: Well, my particular not hot is not hot for several reasons.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: It's something called a 7FC.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_05: That might sound familiar to people, kind of like you'll know the Aeronka Champ 7A the 7AC.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_05: 7AC, yeah.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: Which is like I reckon is like a super classic airplane.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_05: I would love to have a 7AC.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_05: Cutest at some point.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, cutest.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_05: It's not it's not overly cute, it's but it's not it's not uh it's not ugly either.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_05: It's not isn't let's be honest, it's not as cute as a cub, but it's a lot less money than that.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway, anyway, that's the 7AC.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_05: 7AC got developed and became different types of different letters and stuff like that.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_05: And then along came the 7FC.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_05: And the 7FC has um well, we can all see it, and all I can say is my eyes.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it is not the prettiest airplane in the world.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and it's a bit slower than when you have a tailwheel at the back, it hasn't got as much useful load as when you have a tailwheel at the back.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_05: This particular example is on sale.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's a couple of other reasons why it made my not hot thing.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_05: There's the aesthetic look of it, not you know, Chiltern 7FC.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: A nose wheel on a classic.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_05: Nose wheel on a classic didn't work.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_05: It's£40,000, which is a chunk, which is which is quite punchy.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_05: It's on the D-Reg.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_05: And it's based in Poland.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_05: And it hasn't flown since 2020, so it's in storage.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_05: That's now there's a lot of things there.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_05: So if it hasn't flown till twenty since twenty twenty, that's not a super long time, but that's gonna need a full oval.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_05: Oh full of the colour.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_05: Um it's on D-Reg, so you've got to change the registration, probably.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_05: Any kind of interaction with authority is a bit of a pain in the backside.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's there's a couple of pictures of it on a lorry, so I'm not sure if it's assembled either, yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_05: Um For me, that made my not hot choice, I'm afraid.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_04: Even though I would fit much better in that than I would in the Yeah, yeah, I can I can see because nice as a tramp is just that it's Yeah, it's it's not quite as bad as a nose wheel on the beach eighteen.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: But there are there's there's a subset of aeroplanes that were tailwheel that were made nosewheel by s some people who were not thinking, and it has generally never been a success.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_05: So there you go.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's my two.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_05: And I think I think they're pretty good.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_05: I think your hot is pretty hot.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_05: Your hot is pretty hot.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_05: And the and the knot is pretty not.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_04: That's I yeah, I'll go for that.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_05: Thanks to both of those were on AFOS, by the way.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you to AFORS for uh for hosting those.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_05: AFORS.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_05: Dave.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: So my hot um you know sometimes things change hands and you wonder where does that go on?
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: This is the case with this particular hot aircraft.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: This is a Luscomb, and it's not being advertised.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's actually just shared amongst people on the European Luscomb's Facebook group.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_04: Do you do you remember that you know the word hot?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's like it's like desire it's like f full of desire and Well, do you know what I think Aluscom uh this is a 1947 Luscomb 8E, but it's a fantastic one.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: It's you know it's it's uh I bet you say that about all Aluscoms, don't you?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: This one's well looked after.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's owned by uh a retired airline pilot, Nicholas Hemings, who lives in southwest France.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's a great place to fry.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's been fitted with a Continental C 90 engine from a Piper Cup.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_03: And that was recently rebuilt, zero timed, by engine specialists at Norvick.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so a ninety horsepower in Aluskan.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_05: That just to be a bit of a pedant, but if you're an engine specialist, you can't zero time an engine.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_05: Only the manufacturer can do that.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: Well, i they did use all mostly new parts.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't use re uh reconditioned parts, it was new parts.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_04: Only the manufacturer can be a good idea.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_04: We're not going to take him to the park.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, it's a very interesting thing.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: Mr.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: Fun sponge over here.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: But the great thing about Aluscom, I think, is that it's originally it was a certified aircraft, so it's been built to a very high standard and designed to a very high standard.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and this and then afterwards, you know, now they're available on a permit.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_03: So you've got the best of both worlds.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: You've got a certified aircraft construction, but now you can operate it on a permit.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's a great set of great pairing.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_04: I y I I like a Luscom?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_04: Is a Luscomb.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_04: How much is it up for?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_04: This hot Luscomb?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, um I it's I know the budget was six fifty thousand, but this is 60,000 euro.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_04: Well, so actually 60,000 euros is under under budget, maybe if you didn't have to pay too much VAT.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: The VAT is gonna like spoil it.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_04: But maybe you can make an offer.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe you can, yes, yeah.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_04: We'll throw you a lifeline.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, the thing about Luscombs is that they're great fun to fly.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: They look terrific.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: And uh they have that Silflex undercarriage, which disguises even the worst of landings, I think.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_04: I think there are some landings that some landings you've gone through beyond that.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so how do you contrast your hot?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: My not.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I've I've actually could have been very superficially.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: I've just gone for this thing called a quickie tri-Q200, which I did spot on A4s.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: I went I'm sure it's somebody's you know project, love love of their life.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: But something that looks like a pair of wild eyebrows.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_04: It's just too weird.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I love the the quickie is an amazing design, but I fear that your quickie Q Tri-Q GTI XLS has um has gone down the same Yeah has gone down the same ho rabbit hole as Ian's Tri-Champ.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: Tri-Champ, yeah.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_04: Putting putting because the Quickie in original format looks like something out of Star Wars with the wheels on the end of the wingtips, but putting have uh modifying the the quickie into the the tri involves soaring the wingtips off and putting it on three little tripod feet.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm with you.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_04: Is it a bargain?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it was so weird.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't actually have a price.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_05: We'll look up the price and we'll put it on screen.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_05: We'll probably call it Dave's lack of research price or something.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_05: But but yeah, that's right I'm I'm I'm with you, Ed.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_05: Uh a a really nicely finished quickie.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_04: And it's and it is hard to those early gen uh early generation composite aircraft were um hotwired from foam and had to be glass.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_04: So to get one that is Oshkosh Cream Puff, which we have seen um is is a stunning thing to to look at.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_04: And models of efficiency.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_04: I know that must have been I you can you can you imagine turning up at Oshkosh with one of those in like the the late 70s, early 80s.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_04: You yeah, you would have it would have been like you'd just flown in the space.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: But I did read that they were supposed to look like the X-Planes from Star Wars.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_04: I think that that might actually be true.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_04: It's one of those things you think you go, that must be a bit of a urban legend.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_04: But anyway, yeah.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if it's related to your crema crabs, but I guess you've gone off a quickie.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_03: I have gone off a quickie, yes.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: Which just leaves me.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_04: It does.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_04: Now, my benchmark for hot, uh a truly hot aeroplane is the Grumman Bearcat.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_04: Uh that was the 1944 hot rod wall bed, 2,000 horsepower, 400 knots, 4,400 feet per minute climb rate.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_04: 50,000.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_04: 50,000 pounds?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, I I see you doubting.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_04: So power to weight.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_04: Power to weight ratio on the bearcat, 2.2 kilos per horsepower.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: So imagine if you could get bearcat style power to weight, but under 50K.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_04: You're all doubting me on this, aren't you?
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_03: Rather.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_04: But on A4s, uh for a grand under budget, is this a fabulous Yak 50?
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_04: C.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um and and so this Yak 50 has got the extra powerful supercharged 400 horsepower uh Videnyev M14PF radial.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_04: So Yak 50, 950 kilograms, 400 horsepower, 2.3 kilograms per horsepower.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_04: Pretty close to bear cat power to weight ratio.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_04: 5% off.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_04: 5%, but hey, it's close.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_04: And I think that makes for something that is really hot.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um developed in 1975, um, it was the mount of choice for Russian aerobatics uh uh Russian aerobatics team at the time.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the type was used to win two World Aerobatic Championships.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Mark Jeffries, uh Yak expert, if you read his talk about the 50 online, he said the 50 is also easy to operate once you get used to it.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_04: It's rugged, good all-round visibility.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_04: Once you get used to it.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_04: Once it's mauled you a bit.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um good visibility, except forwards uh until you get the tail up.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um greatest downer to life at um uh because Mark says 162 knots you can cruise at in the Yak.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_04: But if you're doing that, it's the problem is the Yak's lack of fuel capacity.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um, because standard it had a 55-litre fuel tank.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um which means that you had 80 nautical miles of range.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the good news is, though, that there's a cruise nautical miles.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um that there is a cruise tank option, and most of the 50s around have this, uh, which bumps range up to 250 nautical miles.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_04: But this is an aeroplane that's all about hot and exciting performance.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_04: And I think this does it.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_04: Now, there is some of you, if you've seen the ad the advert on A4s, it does say um uh there's a line in the description that says um life extension due in 21 hours.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_04: Now I guess that's the reason that this airplane might be under our budget.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_05: No, I think they I think uh the Yak 50s, I Mark Jeffries will probably write in and tell me I'm an idiot.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_05: Um but the Yak 50s all had a really short spa life because they weren't really in they were uh they were intended to go out and do some mad aerobatics then and then just replace them.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_04: So the life uh I think the airframe life is 300 hours.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_04: And clearly the ones that have come over and uh you know flying in the UK have are probably all lasting a lot longer than the Russians intended, but it's probably a it's probably quite a strongly built airplane.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_04: But there is a mandatory permit directive from the CAA that will extend a life subject to um um inspection and maintenance program.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_04: And apparently you can get up to 800 hours.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um I'm guessing that there's some work to be done there.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_04: But fundamentally for now, 21 hours to go.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_04: You can have the hot ride of your life.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_04: What's for what's 49,000?
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_05: 49,000 pounds.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_05: 49,000.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_05: What divide by 21?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_04: 21 hours.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_05: What's the hourly cost on that?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know, but what a what a great time I think you would have.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_04: I th I think that definitely qualifies as hot.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_04: And and and in contrast to this, a not my hot choice is this.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_04: It's the Sherwood Scout.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's a fiver under 50k on planes for sale.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_04: And I think if you ordered a kit fox from TMU, this is what would turn up.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_04: Which engine has that one got?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_04: It's got the 912 ULS which is the first one.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, well that's a that's a that's a good engine.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_04: It's a good engine, and it's very practical and it has a two-minute wing fold.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_04: But even with this sporty paint scheme, this is one aeroplane that uh does absolutely nothing to ignite any flames of hotness.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_05: I mean that the the history of that airplane, it began life as well.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_04: Not this particular one here, but the the type.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_04: And TLAC bought it and did a whole bunch of improvements to it, and now they sell it.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_04: And sorry, TLAC, but I just it doesn't set my world on fire.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_05: Aaron Ross Powell Well I think it went down at one point it went down a little side street and it put a D-motor in.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_04: I uh I think I saw one with a D-motor.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_05: Well maybe.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_04: I know T Lac have been great proponents of the D-motor.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe it was the Sherwood Ranger that was.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they do.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_04: They put it on the on the Sherwood Ranger biplane.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_04: But um yeah, I'm sorry if you own one of these and um and you might be offended, but I'm sure it's perfectly adequate aeroplane.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_04: But if you're if you I figure if you're spending 50k on an aeroplane, um you want you want it to make you feel excited.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_04: And this leaves me a bit cold.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_05: Whether you're spending five K on an aeroplane or five million on an aeroplane, you want to pull back the hanger doors or perhaps to have them pulled back forward.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_05: And it makes you pulled.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: You've got to love it, haven't you?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely, you've got to love it, yeah.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_04: And and it's uh it's yeah, this this doesn't do it for me.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_04: But um but hey, that's yeah, that's that's so hot or not, tell us uh do you uh which of our three hot choices do you like?
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and um not, do you agree with our not choices?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe you're an owner of one of the not choices and you're furiously writing an email of complaint right now.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, in all seriousness, you know, not not choices are an individual thing, and what's one person's not is another person's hot.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um but we just we just thought we'd be a little bit controversial and have a look at what else were this week.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um right then.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_05: I think but if I had to pick one, I'd pick your chiltern, even if I couldn't fit in it.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, it's it's you know, this is not this is not a like what am I buying for myself?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_05: This is like a hot the fact that you can get a chiltern that looks just so beautiful for twenty eight and a half thousand.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_05: That chiltern could be what that could be hang a wall art and you could not even fly it and just love it.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_05: If I had a house big enough, which I don't, and I never will have, I'd hang it up on the wall.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, I wouldn't.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'd I'd I'd employ a jockey to go fly it.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_05: And make it look good.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_05: Right then.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_05: Next.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_05: What's up next?
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's what caught my eye.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_04: I was going for events, I completely forgot the what caught your eye segment.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_04: Um.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, me.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_05: Mike, what caught my eye is this.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_05: Take a look at it.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_05: It's yeah, it's a drone.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_05: I know it's a drone.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_05: This is called the MCR Driad.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_05: It's got 36 hours of endurance, 392 kilograms worth of jettisonable payload.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_05: Why would you have to jettison a payload?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I don't know.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_05: It might be a clue that the fact that there are ten hard points underneath, four on the fuselage and ten and six on the wing.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_04: And um also this looks vaguely vaguely familiar to me.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_05: Well, the name the MCR is also familiar.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_05: And so really this this whole DNA of this started many, many, many years ago when Michel Colombo created the Bambi, the first Bambi, which is a kit aircraft from plans, I should say.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_05: Plans-built aircraft.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_05: And it's all metal, but it's just beautifully sculpted.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_04: Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Yeah, and this was just an astonishingly complex aeroplane to build.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_05: Most people would have looked at it and gone, you must be joking.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_04: Because not only was it difficult shapes, some of the processes and material and like it's it was like poultruded carbon spars and weird bonding techniques.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_04: I I say weird, complex.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_04: Complex, bond.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_05: Pretty complex.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_05: Here's a sheet of flat aluminium, and here's a whole bunch of complex curves it has to do perfectly as well.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_05: So all sorts of stuff like that.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_05: That kind of that grew into the MCR1 Bambi.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Bambi, interestingly that you know, it comes from the name Ban Columban.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_05: And B, B plus, two seat.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_05: So two-seat ban.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_05: And of course it's it's this is.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's not like a little cute thing that you shoot and eat.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_05: No, no.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_05: And this was uh c Christoph Robin's kind of contribution to turning that aeroplane into something that was kittable and Yeah, that was kind of done by but at this time the Robin family were no longer involved in Robin but were still living on their house on Dawah airport, really.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_05: And so the the MCR company grew there.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_04: So how d how did how did we end up with a drone?
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_05: We ended up with a drone, because obviously the the MCR one, if you like, or the the the two-seat Bambi.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_05: The two-seat composite Bambi that was significantly easier.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_05: They had all sorts of bits where you could go and build the the tricky composite bits at the factory and stuff like that.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_05: That then then there's a four-seat one, the MCR four.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_05: Which I loved.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_05: Which is yeah, it's it's it looks really slick.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_05: And in fact, when you see them side by side, as you probably are now, um you can see the you can see the heritage.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_05: And that looks that looks really nice.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I say really nice.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know It should have been breathed on by an Italian designer at some point, because it looks almost perfect.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_04: But the MCR4 the MCR4S was always the aeroplane that I expected to do more, because it's yeah, it looked like super capable.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_04: You flew it and you I did, yeah.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: And it's it's amazingly spacious inside.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: It can lift.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, we're flying with three people in it.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: And uh it was just the performance was extraordinary.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_04: That was I we are talking what what, probably twenty years ago?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_04: Twenty years ago.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_04: And that was on the hundred horsepower Rotex.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_04: Imagine what that airplane would be like now with a 91 Rotex 916 in it.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_05: The original one, the metal one, yeah.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_05: Was designed to fly with the 80 horsepower 912.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_05: And had some stuff.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_05: 190 miles an hour cruise.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's like wool.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_05: And Columban always was Mr.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_05: Efficient.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_05: It's all about super efficient, isn't it?
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, so um so apparent I'm guessing now so SE Aviation are in charge of what the the the whole range.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_05: The whole range, and they've gone drones.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_05: Drones.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_05: Drones were just jettisonable.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_05: Can't say that word.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_05: I'm turning it to Dave.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_05: Uh loads, as it were.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um Yeah.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_05: And we all know why.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_05: The you know the world's a different changing place.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I think this has got something like a two and a half, thirty-six hour loiter capability.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um beyond if you're gonna operate it beyond visual line site's two and a half thousand kilometre range.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_05: So you can imagine putting a few things on that and flying it, and and there must be a lot of people going after that market at the moment.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, it's super efficient.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's interesting.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: Only has to do two and a half thousand kilometers there, probably doesn't have to come back.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting that you've you you spotted that, because uh uh a couple of weeks ago um I also spotted that you remember the velocity canard.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_04: That's also become a drone.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_04: Velocity, that what was the name of that?
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Sebastian.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_04: Sebastian in Florida.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, in Florida, yeah, that's there.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, so um so I certainly I saw photos of a defense um uh defence bazaar.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_04: Show, world defense show.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_04: And there was a velocity in there.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_04: And you go, that looks familiar.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_04: So um Yeah, okay.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_03: Dave.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_03: Well I've got something far nicer than a you know explosive-packed drone.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um This is that uh uh airability has been given.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_03: A Pipistal Vellis Electro, that's the electric uh pipistal two-seat electro.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's been sponsored by a group called 4Air, which is an industry body pushing uh uh four levels of aviation sustainability, hence 4Air.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um so it's ideal for airability, yeah, they're pointing out.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's got simple cockpit controls, uh, it's got high wing, obviously, and large doors which open upwards, easy for people to get in and out of.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um and it's great visibility, apparently, because of you've flown one, haven't you?
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's got good visibility and it's very quiet.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_05: I love the whole Pipestroll range for its for its capabilities, the electric and the and the the ones with the rotax engines.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_05: It's I slightly wish it didn't have that big spa in front of your in the top of the cabin.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_05: In the top of the cabin.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_04: Well that's great news for arability.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_04: So uh a free Vellis Electro.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_03: Well, for a year.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's 12 month sponsorship, yeah.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_03: It may be renewed at the end of that, but no.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_05: So that will be operating presumably from Blackbush.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I imagine.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_04: Which just leaves me.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: Just leaves you, Dead.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: What caught your eye?
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_04: Wasn't the trouser done.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_04: I it's I can luxuriate in this.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's the fantastic resp restoration of the world's only Passbed Skylark.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's been done by the artisans at Rare Aircraft, and they've done it for a collector of excellent vintage aircraft, uh, Walt Bow.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_04: And all I can say is, look at those trousers.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_05: Do they make my Chiltern look like it's got slightly dodgy shorts from a kid who's gone to school.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_04: Uh basically the the Skylark uh was created in 1935, uh powered by a hundred and twenty five horsepower Warner Scarab radial engine.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_04: Sounds fantastic.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh it's an enclosed cockpit, um superside seating for two steel cheaper large wooden wings.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_04: Should have been you go, wow, that should have been a success, but it wasn't.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_04: Uh good for 109 knots, um but other Two seaters, I think, at the time probably went had better.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_04: It's a bit underpowered to me.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe, yeah.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_04: And it's l it's quite a big, quite a big looking airplane.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um but never made it.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_04: Never well, yeah, I don't know.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it never made it production, and only one was ever made.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_04: But amazingly, that one survived for 91 years.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_04: And anyway, uh Waltbow's had it restored.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um and this is this is and I I hope it goes to Oskosh, because I um it's it's like this is my my trouser thing.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_04: It's like I can't wait to see this.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_04: This is fantastic.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_04: So um uh yeah.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_04: So roll on Oshkosh and um yes, Passport Skylark, trousers of dreams.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe we better stop there.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: Better stop there, yes.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_03: So that just leaves events.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: And actually, I've got a couple of nice ones.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_03: Are they starting up?
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_03: They're starting up, yes.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: This weekend, there's a really nice event on it.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's a Shuttleworth Open Workshop Weekend.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's great.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: This is a chance to see behind the scenes at uh at the Shuttleworth Collection and see how the engineers look after these wonderful old airplanes.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I know that's uh I went up there a few weeks ago and the the work they do is brilliant and fascinating.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_04: And you get to see behind the, like you say, behind the scenes in all the cool stuff.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_05: I mean Shuttleworth is a world up there in one of the best of classic museums.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_03: And coming up on the first of March, there's a St.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_03: David's flying at Swansea Airport.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: Brilliant.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: This is a place that's run by volunteers.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: And uh so well worthy of support, I think.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_03: And also Swansea I mean, I've never been to Swansea, but that whole area, the uh Gowa.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: Looks fantastic.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_05: It does.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_05: Let's hope they get those.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's been a while since I've been to Swansea Airport.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I'm talking maybe twenty plus years.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_05: Um and it was out of Kilta with the with the beauty of Gawa at the time.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_05: So let's hope it's had a bit of a makeover.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: Well the volunteers seem to be getting on with it.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: They've just had their lease renewed, the contract renewed, so they're they're looking after it full-time now.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_05: Good.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I might from a round on the first of March when it's not pouring down with rain.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_05: I might pop along and see what I can see what I can see.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_05: Brilliant.
• 46:16
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