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Fights and Gun Defense · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Chuck Douglas is a power hour six TENU WUTV, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about tomorrow morning three forty am. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta be up because I'm back in here hosting Columbus
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  Speaker 1: Morning News for Mike Elliott and and I'll do my
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  Speaker 1: best to stay awake. Zach is a yeoman. He has
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  Speaker 1: done a wonderful job today. He has pushed all the
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  Speaker 1: buttons and had everything where it's supposed to be, even
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  Speaker 1: after getting up at a ridiculous hour this morning and
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  Speaker 1: pushing those same buttons again for Columbus Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: Talking or pushing buttons one thing talking is another that
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  Speaker 2: early in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't envy you, Yes, but you're gonna do great.
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  Speaker 1: You're not Freggie lay so I mean that must be
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  Speaker 1: Italian fregg Ea Darren McGavin's line in a Christmas story.
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  Speaker 1: I was just reading something about him during the break.
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  Speaker 1: He was the king of the Golden Age of television,
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  Speaker 1: starring in six different series and he hated every minute
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  Speaker 1: of it. That's what That's what the story headlight is.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to read that later. A nine at eighty
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  Speaker 1: six yumber eight two double UTV and what I hate
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  Speaker 1: right now is is the constant stories, constant, constant, constant stories,
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  Speaker 1: these ridiculous teen takeovers, these fights, these riots, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what they are. In some cases. You know, when you
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  Speaker 1: got twenty people in a fast food restaurant and they
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  Speaker 1: decide just to unleash all hell on the people who
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  Speaker 1: are in there with them and the employees, that's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a riot. That's and it's it's got to be
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  Speaker 1: dealt with appropriately. And I'm just I'm worried that as
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  Speaker 1: we've seen at Saint Catherine's, as we saw in Toledo
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  Speaker 1: this weekend, that this this stupidity is going to spread
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  Speaker 1: and affect some of our celebrations and affect some of
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  Speaker 1: us in our desire to go out and celebrate two
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years as a country A two
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  Speaker 1: one nine and eighty six, Pete, You're on sixteen WTV
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  Speaker 1: at high Hi.
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  Speaker 2: So I believe that considering that we are going to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate the milestone two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our country,
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  Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people will be like,
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  Speaker 2: I am definitely not going to be scared of some punks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to go out and not let some
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  Speaker 2: punks ruin. You know, this once in a lifetime opportunity
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to carry. And now my fear though, is
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  Speaker 2: that there could be a situation where, you know, something
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  Speaker 2: could escalate, and what I don't want to see is
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  Speaker 2: a good guy with a gun being put behind bars
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  Speaker 2: or something. You know, let's say, like just for example,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not that familiar with the standard ground law.
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  Speaker 2: You know, for example, somebody s witnessing an attack and
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  Speaker 2: you know, whipping out their guns saying hey, stop right now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to use this thing or something, and then
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  Speaker 2: they go to use it. And then for some what
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  Speaker 2: I'm I think what you should do, Chuck seriously is
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  Speaker 2: get Eric Delbert on so we can so people can
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  Speaker 2: if it will at least educate one person as to
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  Speaker 2: what the laws are out there of using a firearm
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  Speaker 2: in the public at a public event, because what I
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  Speaker 2: would what I don't want to see is somebody who
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  Speaker 2: is who is going to be hesitant to use their
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  Speaker 2: gun because they think they might get arrested. A good guy,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, to use their gun because they think they're
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  Speaker 2: going to get arrested, when in fact they were doing
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  Speaker 2: everything legal, or they did everything or what they thought
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  Speaker 2: they were going to do was going to be legal anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the opposite extremely that, though, Pete, is those people
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  Speaker 1: who not hesitant but are too aggressive about pulling out
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  Speaker 1: a weapon. It's a constitutional Harry state now, so I
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  Speaker 1: can carry my weapon, I can shoot my way up
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  Speaker 1: out of a situation. There are rules and laws. Eric,
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  Speaker 1: I love him, he's he's a good friend, but he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be any help you need, you know, U,
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  Speaker 1: s c c A or or US A law shield
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  Speaker 1: something like that, and get get your concealed carry permit,
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  Speaker 1: Go through the training, Learn what you need to learn
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  Speaker 1: in order to get that permit. Instead of just saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got a constitutional right to carry. Know
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  Speaker 1: what those laws are, when and how and where you
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  Speaker 1: can use your weapon without fear of immediate repercussion. Although
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  Speaker 1: somebody is always going to be ready to sue you,
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  Speaker 1: but there's they're legal. You know that whole standard ground
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  Speaker 1: thing and castle doctrine that that's a very subjective thing.
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  Speaker 1: I would want to be on much more solid ground
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  Speaker 1: than something like that if I ever had to do something.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly you know, you're exactly all right. Thanks for the
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  Speaker 2: reminder about the US legal shield. But you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of with you on this and that I'm fearful,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm I'm more feel for like I said, you know, know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: of something going down when a good guy sees a
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  Speaker 2: bad guy doing something wrong and the police aren't around. Uh, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there will be plenty of police around, but
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  Speaker 2: obviously there I don't know what happened up in Toledo,
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  Speaker 2: but they I don't know how they can't. They couldn't
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  Speaker 2: catch two guys. You would I don't know if there
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  Speaker 2: was there weren't enough cops up there or what you
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  Speaker 2: would think they would have at least caught one of
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  Speaker 2: the guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, anyway, something might happen on the fringe of the area. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's that's my fear. Uh So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: great topic, keep it up.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Pete, thanks very much. I want to
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  Speaker 1: make clear I'm not you know, I'm not scared of
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  Speaker 1: my my for myself. Seriously, I'm scared for my town,
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  Speaker 1: for my hometown. I don't want bad things to happen here.
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  Speaker 1: I would be concerned. I would be very cautious and
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  Speaker 1: because see, if I got to be out there the
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  Speaker 1: antenna has to be up extra high, and I got
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  Speaker 1: to be like on full alert. You always want to
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  Speaker 1: be observant of what's going on around you. But when
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  Speaker 1: you've got to play security guard, you don't enjoy anything
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, everybody, have you seen that that meme,
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  Speaker 1: that video meme that goes around where the guy's walking
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  Speaker 1: with his wife and it's like you hear the voice
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  Speaker 1: in his head. He's a little guy on the right
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  Speaker 1: with a backpack. I can take him two guys coming
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  Speaker 1: up on the left. He see. That's how we are
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  Speaker 1: as men generally, And when you've got to enhance that
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  Speaker 1: and be five times that because of what's going on
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  Speaker 1: in the world, there's really no time for you to
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  Speaker 1: actually enjoy being a dad or a husband or a
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  Speaker 1: grandpa or whatever. And if I'm at something and you know,
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  Speaker 1: you got the kids are all they're here, and they're
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  Speaker 1: there and they get you got to who you're gonna protect?
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  Speaker 1: Twenty morons come in and start, you know, beating up
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  Speaker 1: the crowd or who you're gonna protect? What are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna do? They got weapons, You got a weapon, what's
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  Speaker 1: line of sight? What's gonna happen? And you miss what's it, hit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is what our cops go through every day. Man,
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  Speaker 1: every day. When something you got it, you had better
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  Speaker 1: be faster than any IBM processor because you got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of decisions to make in a very very short
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  Speaker 1: amount of time. And I don't know, frankly, that it's
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  Speaker 1: worth my time if I continue to see this kind
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  Speaker 1: of garbage going on, I don't know if it's worth
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  Speaker 1: my time and effort to go out and try to
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  Speaker 1: fake having a good time when all I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be doing is being on guard. I'd love to take
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  Speaker 1: the kids places, I'd love for the Queen to be
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  Speaker 1: able to enjoy yourself, but certain risk just are not
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  Speaker 1: worth it, at least as far as I'm concerned. And
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  Speaker 1: I hate to say that, because, as I said two
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago, I was all fired up about America two fifty,
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  Speaker 1: but the animal factor is just getting way too high.
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  Speaker 1: A two one nine eight six two UTV in one
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred and six ten UTV and also works down
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  Speaker 1: to you're on sixtenvel.
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  Speaker 3: UTVN Okay, Chuck, I'm gonna try to make this short
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  Speaker 3: and sweet. You know you're talking about what happened over
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  Speaker 3: the Columbus Bexley on the border right there. There are
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  Speaker 3: solutions to this problem, and we also have to admit
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  Speaker 3: there's blame. Let me start off, Catholic Church, you're partially
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  Speaker 3: to blame. And here's why. If you had talked to
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  Speaker 3: any public official, any law enforcement official, you would have
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  Speaker 3: found out it was a bad idea to get three
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  Speaker 3: or four one hundred teenage to teenagers together without the
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  Speaker 3: appropriate law enforcement in the same spot. That's a bad idea.
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  Speaker 3: And that's always been like that. Number one, number two, Chuck,
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  Speaker 3: I asked the question on Facebook, and maybe you saw
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  Speaker 3: it or not, also made a comment on Facebook about
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  Speaker 3: two weeks ago up here at South Point Park where
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  Speaker 3: I live over here, there was supposed to be some
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  Speaker 3: kind of gathering at a basketball court and a barbecue
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  Speaker 3: by this flash mob or whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna murder her name, but bear with me. You
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  Speaker 3: know who I'm talking about. Jahannah's mayor, Lorie Gyari Jarwie.
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  Speaker 3: I can't say Jarwin. You know who I'm talking.
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  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what how she pronounces her name either.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, she shut it down. She posted it publicly Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 3: we are not going to tolerate tolerate an unorganized event.
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  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah. She shut it down. So what
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  Speaker 3: did she do? She came in here and removed the
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  Speaker 3: basketball courts and rims.
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  Speaker 1: Well, isn't that that sounds that sounds very racist? Why
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  Speaker 1: just the basketball courts?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, it was it was she
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  Speaker 3: shut it down.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I bet the soccer field didn't get shut down.
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  Speaker 3: The Well, wait a minute, here's what I don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: How come the big cities can't learn from the medium
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  Speaker 3: or small city example. I don't understand why every city
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  Speaker 3: park in this Columbus does not have a damn camera
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  Speaker 3: in it with color. That makes no sense. Every city
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  Speaker 3: park in the city of Columbus should have a camera
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  Speaker 3: in it monitored by a Columbus police office.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much good they do. I think
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  Speaker 1: they had the cameras around the Westgate Park, in both
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  Speaker 1: parking lots and everything else. Their answer to the crime
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  Speaker 1: was to shut down the South parking lot, which is
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  Speaker 1: where I used to grab Wendy's and have lunch. And
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't even go in there and sit and have
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  Speaker 1: my lune. Look at the squirrels play, which is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Me the good guy lunch in the park. The point
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  Speaker 1: when my point is there's crimes going on in people
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  Speaker 1: speeding and people shooting, and they've got cameras, but nothing
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  Speaker 1: came of it.
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  Speaker 3: Because they weren't being monitored by Columbus or leased the
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  Speaker 3: way they should have been an enforcement through the Chief
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  Speaker 3: of Lane Bryant. If she wanted something done, she would
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  Speaker 3: have got it done. Now that being said, there's also
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  Speaker 3: other ways to curtail these splash mobs. An example, if
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  Speaker 3: there is a gathering, what the suburbs do, and I
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  Speaker 3: mean Gahannah, they charge an admission T. Under the age
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  Speaker 3: of ten you get in free. Over the age of
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  Speaker 3: ten you pay an emission T. That's how they cut
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  Speaker 3: down on the riff raff coming into the festival.
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  Speaker 1: What about a poll tax?
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  Speaker 3: We call it what you want?
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, should we have a pollt? If charging,
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  Speaker 1: if charging money keeps the riff raft out, maybe it
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  Speaker 1: should cost you five bucks to vote. That might help.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're not talking about that. We're talking about crimes
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  Speaker 3: and columbus. We ain't talking about voting.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, hurry up, you said you were gonna
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  Speaker 1: make it short and sweets. Hurry up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing I'm doing my best. Remember I said I'm trying.
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  Speaker 3: There's also other things that can be done. Columbus police
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  Speaker 3: enforce the laws.
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  Speaker 1: They enforce the laws, but they don't get locked up.
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  Speaker 1: You take a kid in for breaking the law and
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  Speaker 1: he's back up.
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  Speaker 3: You have to lock somebody up.
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  Speaker 1: You're the one that had the Hyundai stolen. You ought
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  Speaker 1: to know this. They take the Hyundai, the key, a
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  Speaker 1: thief in there, and the kid was back at the
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  Speaker 1: house going you, I'm going out the back door to
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  Speaker 1: steal another car. And the woman's on Channel ten news
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  Speaker 1: begging for help. But the court system won't lock them up.
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  Speaker 1: So you can arrest them all you want. If the
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  Speaker 1: courts keep letting them out, Columbus police can't do anything about.
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  Speaker 3: It ends on where you're at. If you do something
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  Speaker 3: on the border, like the suburbs, you gotta go in
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  Speaker 3: front of the mirror's school and mayor's court will lock
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  Speaker 3: you up.
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  Speaker 1: It depends on jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 3: That's the point now, that being that being set in
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  Speaker 3: force the law, Columbus police an example, everybody knows all
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  Speaker 3: parks close at twelve o'clock. I'm not twelve o'clock dark.
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  Speaker 3: All parks close. If your car is in that park
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  Speaker 3: after dark, you facing a tow truck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They tried that also at Westgate Park, and people
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  Speaker 1: were over there fishing while they were dealing drugs. As
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  Speaker 1: long as they were fishing, they were allowed to stay
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  Speaker 1: because there's no law against that. So the drug dealers
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  Speaker 1: just brought dark. Yes after one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock, yes,
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  Speaker 1: dandhi Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes. The call
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  Speaker 1: the police and.
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  Speaker 3: Ask is an enforcement issue.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's a law issue. The law allows them to
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  Speaker 1: be there because they are fishing, so they were allowed
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  Speaker 1: to stay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, then find a way.
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  Speaker 1: All come, but wait, Manue, hang on, it's not as
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  Speaker 1: simple as well, then find a wait. If the law
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  Speaker 1: says something, and you're asking law enforcement to enforce a law,
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  Speaker 1: the law has to say whatever. They can't just make
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  Speaker 1: up a law and say, because we don't like the
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  Speaker 1: way you look, you can't be in the park after dark.
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  Speaker 1: Because you know you're a teen, we're gonna charge you money.
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  Speaker 1: But that's one step away from well, because you're a
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  Speaker 1: black teen, we're gonna charge you money. And in case
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  Speaker 1: you haven't noticed, the people who keep popping in these
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  Speaker 1: videos are are kind of on one side of the
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  Speaker 1: ethnicity line. You don't think that's gonna come up and
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  Speaker 1: people are gonna say, oh, it's racist for you to
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  Speaker 1: stop these flash mobs, and yeah, man, it is a
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  Speaker 1: no win situation if you approach it from the legal standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: We have to change