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Can the Twins be like the Brewers? · Twin Cities Territory

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  Speaker 1: Dan, you look rested. A week without baseball has done
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  Speaker 1: wonders for you. You've got a glow about you. How
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  Speaker 1: are you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm great. I'm fantastic. I've slept in. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: had to go to the ballpark. That will end this week. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: Twins fans, don't listen. I'm going to help out on
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  Speaker 2: White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: Covering the White Sox, yeah. We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a traitor. Yeah, I'm not a traitor.
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  Speaker 2: It's T-R-A-I-T-O-R, not T-R-A-D-E-R. I'm not. Please. But, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: have to help out.
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  Speaker 1: For anyone who doesn't know, Dan, who covers the Twins
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  Speaker 1: for The Athletic, does not live in Minnesota. This animal
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  Speaker 1: commutes to Minnesota to cover home games and then back
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  Speaker 1: to Chicago. So we're going to put him to work
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  Speaker 1: on the White Sox, who are game twos tonight. They
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  Speaker 1: have a 1-0 lead over Cleveland in the ALBS. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about that and all the playoffs today on Twin
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  Speaker 1: Cities Territory, your Minnesota Twins podcast episode. here on the
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  Speaker 1: Foul Territory Network. The most notable playoff action of the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, Dan, happened in Milwaukee, where the Brewers,
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  Speaker 1: who won a Major League Best 103 games during the
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  Speaker 1: regular season, had two really tough games against San Diego.
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  Speaker 1: Padres almost took game one against Jacob Mizorowski. Might have,
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  Speaker 1: if not for a roof cable high up.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then game two, we're winning in the ninth inning,
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  Speaker 1: had their stud closer Mason Miller out there for, was
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  Speaker 1: he out there for two innings?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He asked him for a six-out save.
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  Speaker 1: And it proved to be a little too much. Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Churio with the electric walk-off two-run single to turn a
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  Speaker 1: loss into a win. Two strikes as well, two outs.
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  Speaker 1: It was really about as exciting as it gets. And
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  Speaker 1: so as we were thinking about topics for today's show, Dan,
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  Speaker 1: I can't help but watch this Brewers team and think
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  Speaker 1: to myself, why can't the twins be like the Brewers someday? Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you have the geographic similarities. There are neighbors. You have
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  Speaker 1: the market size similarities. They are not necessarily all due
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  Speaker 1: respect to Milwaukee. They're not the most sexy market in
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  Speaker 1: the country. They're two hours up the road. If you're
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  Speaker 1: going to move to a big Midwest city, The one
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  Speaker 1: you think of first is just a couple hours down
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  Speaker 1: the road. There's those similarities. We started looking into it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more to see how have they done
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  Speaker 1: this and just to see if the Twins can learn
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  Speaker 1: anything from this team, Dan. I know the first reaction
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  Speaker 1: to this from the sarcastic crowd out there, of which
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  Speaker 1: I am part of it, I'm not knocking the sarcastic crowd,
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  Speaker 1: is why can't the Twins be like the Brewers? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the pull ads or well, because we can't have nice
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  Speaker 1: things in Minnesota and sports, but, uh, it is actually
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  Speaker 1: pretty eyeopening, uh, to look at how the brewers have
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  Speaker 1: done this. And it is not through spending $ 700 million
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  Speaker 1: on star players or anything that seems super unattainable. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we'll start with their payroll, which this year was $ 124
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  Speaker 1: million on opening day, uh, which is higher than the twins,
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  Speaker 1: of course, but not that much higher than And certainly
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  Speaker 1: with an owner in Tom Pollad who is talking about
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  Speaker 1: investing more this offseason, certainly the Brewers are showing that
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  Speaker 1: it's not necessarily that you have to throw a ton
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  Speaker 1: of money around. You just have to put it in
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  Speaker 1: the right places at the right times.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's pretty much it. I mean, it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: If they were in Milwaukee or if they were in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers owner would be cheap Antanasio or Antanasio, however
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  Speaker 2: you say Mark Antanasio's name, because they have never– really
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  Speaker 2: been a payroll team. This is a team that has
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  Speaker 2: basically lingered. I think their highest that they've been in
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  Speaker 2: the league is 17th, and that was back in 2019.
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  Speaker 2: During this run, and let's clarify that, during this run
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  Speaker 2: of eight playoffs in nine years, they've been at their
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  Speaker 2: highest 17th. Mostly they've been between 22 and 24 and 26.
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  Speaker 2: They don't throw a lot of money at payroll. What
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  Speaker 2: they do is they draft and develop players. extremely well.
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  Speaker 2: And they have an identity. And I do think the
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  Speaker 2: Twins are sort of getting there. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: Twins have an idea of what they want to do,
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  Speaker 2: which is be more athletic. And I think that's one
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  Speaker 2: thing the Brewers have been outstanding at. You look at
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  Speaker 2: the roster right now, they had seven guys with 10
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  Speaker 2: stolen bases this year. And I'm not even saying that
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  Speaker 2: stolen bases, like Luke Kieschel made a great point. Stolen
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  Speaker 2: bases is not the way to say, oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: a great base running team. First, third, instincts on the
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  Speaker 2: bases are All that stuff really defines a team. This
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  Speaker 2: is what the Brewers do. I mean, yes, they have
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  Speaker 2: guys that steal bases and they take extra bases. They
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  Speaker 2: push that extra 90 feet on base hits. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a huge part of it. They just find athletes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, but these are guys that they find
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  Speaker 2: gems from other teams and bring them in and they
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  Speaker 2: have a culture and an identity established and guys buy in. Look,
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  Speaker 2: Jake Bowers had, how many stolen bases this year? Jake
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  Speaker 2: Bowers had 11 stolen bases, not a ton. He's a
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  Speaker 2: 30 year old first baseman in his three years with Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 2: He has 32 stolen bases in his previous, in his
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  Speaker 2: previous four years in the big leagues, he had 18
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  Speaker 2: stolen bases. So, I mean, clearly Milwaukee's identified something and
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  Speaker 2: they think, Hey, sure. It's good to get these guys
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  Speaker 2: in here. And if they want to do it, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to do it and they'll stick. And Andrew Vaughn
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  Speaker 2: is another guy. It's a good example. Andrew Vaughn was
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  Speaker 2: hitting like 160 with the White Sox, former third overall pick. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: it was a bust with the White Sox. He's come
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  Speaker 2: in and hit above 300 for one and a half
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  Speaker 2: seasons with the Brewers. I think what happens is they
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  Speaker 2: find great talent themselves. They have the Jackson Churrios. Look
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  Speaker 2: at Yelich, what he's done for them for a decade.
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  Speaker 2: And this year, he's falling off. Obviously, he's fallen off
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  Speaker 2: the last couple years from what he was, where he
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  Speaker 2: was an MVP player. type player for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: But then they replace him with someone else that's an
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  Speaker 2: MVP type. Like Jackson Trujillo right now is 22 and
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  Speaker 2: looks like he's on a Hall of Fame trajectory already.
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  Speaker 1: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Terang, first round pick of the Brewers in 2018.
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  Speaker 2: His first two years, it took him a little while
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  Speaker 2: to develop. Then he learned his strike zone. He gets
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  Speaker 2: on base 36% of the time now. I mean, Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Terang is a four to five win player every year.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it was a baseball reference had him
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  Speaker 2: as a seven win player this year. But you just
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  Speaker 2: see it. They do homegrown talent. Jacob Mizorowski, what a find.
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  Speaker 2: And they've done this over and over with their pitching staff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Freddy Peralta, Corbin Burns, you just keep going
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  Speaker 2: down the list. It just keeps happening. And I think
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  Speaker 2: the Twins, really on the position player side, have decided
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  Speaker 2: the route to go is more athletic. We see it
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  Speaker 2: with Keyshaw. We see it with Walker Jenkins, Emmanuel Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 2: I think they have found that that's the way they
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  Speaker 2: want to go to. Um, it's going to be about
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  Speaker 2: staying healthy and on the field because that's what the
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  Speaker 2: Brewers players do. They, you know, yell at you. That's
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  Speaker 2: slowed down. But a lot of these guys, they post
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  Speaker 2: and they play 130 to 140 and they are good
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  Speaker 2: and it's fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: A few notable things looking at their payroll. Obviously you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the drafting aspect, uh, it starts with that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like to be able to get players who are, to
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  Speaker 1: be able to find them, draft them, and then develop
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  Speaker 1: them fast enough that they can be this good when
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  Speaker 1: they're still in the arbitration years of their life. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Mizorowski is making less than a million dollars this year.
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  Speaker 1: What a steal of the century right there. And there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys like that. The twins are similar.
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  Speaker 1: They have guys in those early stages of their careers
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  Speaker 1: who are uh, affordable and showing promise just not to
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  Speaker 1: the level that the, that the Brewers stars are at
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  Speaker 1: at this point anyway. Um, they also, uh, the other
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  Speaker 1: thing they've done that's, that's been so brilliant for them, uh,
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  Speaker 1: is scout the international pool and hit a couple home
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  Speaker 1: runs there too. Uh, that's how they found Churrio. That's
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  Speaker 1: how they found Luis Lara. Uh, And with both of
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  Speaker 1: those guys, they signed them long-term before they'd ever played
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  Speaker 1: a major league game. The Churrio deal made news a
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  Speaker 1: few years ago because it was the biggest deal ever
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  Speaker 1: handed out at the time, maybe still is, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: to a player who had never played an MLB game.
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  Speaker 1: He got $ 82 million in, I think, eight years. So
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  Speaker 1: he's still relatively cheap now, and it's going to get
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  Speaker 1: even better, really, for the Brewers as it goes. And obviously, Dan,
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  Speaker 1: it's a huge risk to do that. You don't know
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  Speaker 1: how they're going to turn out. But if you hit
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  Speaker 1: you look so smart. You have, you know, the player
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  Speaker 1: hasn't sent them to do it because they get guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: money before they've ever even had to prove themselves in
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  Speaker 1: the big leagues. The team loves it because they're going
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  Speaker 1: to pay less money for these prime years than they
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  Speaker 1: would if they waited until free agency to spend the money.
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  Speaker 1: And then like, also you just like, you, you show
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  Speaker 1: that faith in the player. You take that pressure off
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  Speaker 1: him of having to go out there and perform every
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  Speaker 1: single day. And in, it's certainly in trio's case and
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  Speaker 1: Laura obviously is still early yet, but looks like a,
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  Speaker 1: He was a terror out there in right field when
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  Speaker 1: the Twins were playing. That's for sure. It's a great move, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: to think about locking up some of these guys that
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  Speaker 1: you believe in early on.
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  Speaker 2: If you ever needed your faith rewarded in one of
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  Speaker 2: those contracts more, did Jack Centurio not provide it yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with not just the bat and not the hit? but
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  Speaker 2: when he fouled off the 104 and then sniffed the
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  Speaker 2: bat to smell the burn of a Hall of Fame move, man.
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  Speaker 2: That guy is an absolute stud. And yeah, you do
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  Speaker 2: take a risk by locking these guys up, but you
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  Speaker 2: also are stating your belief in your own system to
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  Speaker 2: identify that talent and then develop it properly into the
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  Speaker 2: kind of player you want. And we saw a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Jackson Trio right at the start of his career
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  Speaker 2: in 2024. And it was just evident right away that
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  Speaker 2: this guy was going to be a guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he just, he carries himself that way. He's got power.
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  Speaker 2: He's got speed. He's a great defender. He's 100% robbed
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  Speaker 2: Royce Lewis of a, of a potential go ahead home
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  Speaker 2: run in Milwaukee in his rookie year. He was, he's just,
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  Speaker 2: an incredible all-around player. And yeah, of course, there's taking
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  Speaker 2: the risk. But when it's eight years and $ 82 million,
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  Speaker 2: especially at that point, I mean, you should be paying
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  Speaker 2: guys $ 10, $ 12 million at that point in their careers.
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  Speaker 2: And that is such a low amount in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 2: The way they do it, because they have so much
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  Speaker 2: homegrown talent, a $ 10 million miss that might be one
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  Speaker 2: of their highest paid players, right? The $ 10 million guy,
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  Speaker 2: but also they have so many affordable guys that they
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  Speaker 2: can have more of those and where the twins need
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  Speaker 2: to get to that point. They need a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: homegrown talent, which I think they're doing a good job
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  Speaker 2: of right now. You look around that infield, you look,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys that are going to count
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  Speaker 2: on next year that are homegrown. They need more and more.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everywhere throughout that Brewers lineup is someone that's
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  Speaker 2: from home. It's Churio. It's Laura. It's Terang, Cooper Pratt,
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  Speaker 2: David Hamilton, Garrett Mitchell, I think Freelick is. All those
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  Speaker 2: guys are homegrown and they're playing prominent roles. And when
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  Speaker 2: they're affordable and playing big roles and making $ 800, 000 and
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  Speaker 2: doing that or a million bucks, you can take risks
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  Speaker 2: on the guys like Churio and Laura and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we can give these guys bigger money. to keep them
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  Speaker 2: around and happy long term and get the first couple
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  Speaker 2: of years of free agency and then start over again.
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  Speaker 2: That's something they've always done. Josh Hader was their guy
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  Speaker 2: and it was a big deal when they had to
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  Speaker 2: trade Josh Hader because Josh Hader was going to get paid.
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  Speaker 2: What'd they do? They got Devin Williams. Devin Williams filled
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  Speaker 2: in for a couple of years and he had that
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  Speaker 2: dugout incident when like some, like, like I think he
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  Speaker 2: punched a wall or something like that and maybe missed
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  Speaker 2: some games. But they got two great years out of him.
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  Speaker 2: And what'd they do? They got, Trevor McGill who the
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  Speaker 2: twins actually put back into shape. They, they worked him
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  Speaker 2: into shape. It's, it's crazy that the brewers are getting
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  Speaker 2: the twins development because Trevor McGill learned how to pitch
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  Speaker 2: again with the twins and has taken off. But that's,
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  Speaker 2: that's the key is just finding replacements and moving on.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough, right? Like you, we always hear that, right?
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  Speaker 2: Twins fans are like, I hate that my team's a triple-A,
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  Speaker 2: is a farm team for the Yankees, that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But the Brewers, I mean, eight times in nine years
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  Speaker 2: they've made the playoffs. I don't think they're really a
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  Speaker 2: farm team.
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  Speaker 1: But, and it's not even really a risk. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Torrio making $ 7 million this year, eight next year, nine
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  Speaker 1: the year after that. Like, the Twins are going to
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  Speaker 1: have to pay Dean Kramer like that amount of money
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  Speaker 1: next year in arbitration.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, obviously production could drop off. You get injured,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But like compared to going out and
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  Speaker 1: signing a guy like him when he's just a bonafide
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  Speaker 1: free agent, you're going to pay double that at least
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  Speaker 1: for these people. Even at the, even at the tail
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  Speaker 1: end of this deal, 2031, he's going to be what?
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  Speaker 1: He's still in his twenties and 17 million a year.
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  Speaker 1: Like maybe by then you're kind of regretting it, but
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  Speaker 1: like you're certainly wishing you didn't have to pay Christian
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  Speaker 1: Yellich 26 million this year, but, they are and they're
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  Speaker 1: still playing him every day and are the best team
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  Speaker 1: in baseball. So like, yes, you, you can afford to
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  Speaker 1: absorb a little bit and 17 million in 2031 looks
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  Speaker 1: a lot better than 26 million today for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like you look at it, like Byron Buxton at seven
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  Speaker 2: and a hundred and they did that at the right time.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like the contract with escalators. And I
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  Speaker 2: liked how they did that contract. And that was, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't even do that at the start of Byron Buxton's career.
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  Speaker 2: They did that for more of his productive years. Um, but,
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  Speaker 2: 15 million a year right now for Byron Buxton with
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  Speaker 2: the potential of it going to 25, if he wins
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  Speaker 2: MVP is a steal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like, like, so there, there is, there are times where
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  Speaker 2: these contracts work out great for teams and they've identified
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  Speaker 2: some guys. And I, I don't think that the twins
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  Speaker 2: will be able to do this with Walker Jenkins. Cause
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Scott Boris likes giving up those first
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  Speaker 2: year or two of, of a free agency. Like that's
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  Speaker 2: just something that, you don't always see his guys doing,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not saying it can't happen. And of
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  Speaker 2: course you approach them, but you know, that would be
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  Speaker 2: ideal for the twins to do this with Jenkins, with Keyshaw, with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Culpepper, guys like that. Yeah, absolutely. It would,
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  Speaker 2: it would make sense and lock them up and get
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: the twins did it a couple of years in with
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  Speaker 2: Kepler and Polanco. And they got great value. All those
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  Speaker 2: guys in the last couple of years where they could
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  Speaker 2: have been free agents, both of them were making like
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  Speaker 2: 10 million bucks and, And even though Kepler never broke
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: through and hit, he was worth defensively that $ 10 million. So,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: you know, find talent, identify it, get going. And let's
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: help the Brewers do this because this is good for
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  Speaker 2: baseball to see a team like them in the Rays.
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to.
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  Speaker 1: See them win the World Series. That's what you're getting at.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think any of us need to see that. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, I wouldn't hate it. I just, I
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: hate the Dodgers, so. I've always hated the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Fair point. Quick break. We'll be right back with more
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  Speaker 1: on this here on Twin Cities Territory.
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• 17:25
  Speaker 1: mentioned the top. Tyler is just off today. He's golfing.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Big college alumni golf tournament or something down there in Houston.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: So just Dan and I today. He will be back
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: on Thursday. We're going to have a mailbag show on Thursday.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: More on that at the end. But please send us
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• 17:47
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• 17:53
  Speaker 1: The other note on Shurio, the most expensive he's going
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: to get for the Brewers is $ 17. 0.25 million in 2031,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: unless they pick up their team options the next two seasons.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: They have team options for the next two years for
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: 25 million, which obviously if he's an MVP candidate still,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: they will do that and keep him. And if not,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: then they're off the hook without really paying him anything
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: close to it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: And you know what's a great part about already having
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: this in places? If you've determined that this guy is
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the guy you want to build around forever, you And
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: if his body keeps aging the way that you hope
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it does, you can tear that contract up midway.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Because he's already got the loyalty. He's already like, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: love this place. And, you know, was that not electric yesterday,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: how loud it was when he got the hit? I mean,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: so my first stop as a baseball writer was San Diego.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And a lot of my friends are Padre fans. And
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: that's the bulk of my fantasy football league. And that
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: chat thread just was dead silent. And I didn't mess
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: with them. Especially given the way that Saturday went. You
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: think you have the home run from Ty France. What
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: a great moment for Ty France. Taken away. I know
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: StatCast is trying to say that It wasn't going to
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: be a home run. It was going to be really
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: damn close. Maybe it would go foul. I don't know. But, man,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to have that happen and then to have your closer,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: you know, what a great plate appearance by Gary Sanchez.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe Mason Miller was pitch tipping because I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: saw some glove views. Yeah, it showed like his hand
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: was more out of the glove in the set when
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: he was either throwing his fastball or slider or his
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: off speed. And his hand was fully in the glove
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: with the off speed. One or the other. I can't remember.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I saw the images and it was to two different batters.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And so I'm going to guess that they knew what
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: was coming, when it was coming. But I mean, how
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: did Churio hit 104 and foul it off? dotted on
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the outside and down. That was such a nasty pitch.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And he, he just, I mean, that was such an
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: incredible bat. And that crowd was just ridiculously loud. I mean,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I guess if, if I was a Packers fan, I'd
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: be pouring all my energy into the brewers right now too.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: So it's yeah, but.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Not good there. Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: And like, You notice what we haven't said because it
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist on their team. There's no big, juicy free
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: agent signing. They gave Christian Jelic his money, but obviously
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: he was homegrown too. I think the loyalty point is
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: spot on. Trying to convince Jackson Churio to come to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: your small market team when he made his name elsewhere,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that's going to be tough to do. If you make
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: him yourself, then you can sign into that deal before
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: anyone else even gets a chance to and build that,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: build that loyalty and the familiarity with the market and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the area and just turning it into, into home for
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a player. But the last thing I'll say, uh, the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: payroll is $ 124 million, but 26 million of that is,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: is Yelich. Like we mentioned who he's, um, he's DH
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the entire season and he's, you know, basically a replacement
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: level DH at this point, obviously, uh, a franchise legend
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and still out there in the postseason lineup. It's not
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: like he's not contributing. Brandon Woodruff, $ 22 million. He's been
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: hurt most of the year and isn't playing. And they
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: also have $ 2. 5 million in dead money to Lance McCullers,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: who they traded for and then cut. That's $ 50 million
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: of that $ 124 million. That's not doing a whole lot
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: for you. And we just heard the guy done talking
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: about how the Twins aren't spending enough with about $ 70,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: $ 80 million worth of players on the field So it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: not just that. It is the development and it is
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the securing of talent at the right time too.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: It is. Here are the Brewers during the nine years.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: And even in that ninth year that they didn't make
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, they still finished 86 and 76. So they've
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: had a winning record for nine straight years. The payroll
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: starting in 2018, 90 million. 2019, 122 million. 2020 obviously
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: is a smaller amount because of the 60 game season,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: but there were 39 million. They went up to 99 million,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: 131 million, one 18, one Oh four, one Oh eight.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And then one 24 this year. I mean, like they
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: are doing this because it's homegrown. So just identify, nail
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the draft, identify guys that fit a mold. And I
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: do think the twins are going that way. I do
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: think they're looking more athletic. Like Von Lackey is not
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: this big, uh, I heard a Craig Biggio kind of
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: comparison as far as body type, like a catcher who
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: can run. That doesn't happen. And that's who they took
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: third overall. And he's got pop, tremendous pop, and a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: great arm. And so maybe that's the way is the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: athletic guys because, man, it looked a heck of a
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: lot better for the twins when Walker Jenkins, when Kalen
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Culpepper Emmanuel Rodriguez was plus four defensive runs saved in
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: left field in 75 innings after we watched guys butchering
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the ball in the corners all year. So, like, I mean,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it's clear. The Brewers have to stand off this.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It could be the start.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It could be. It could.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what they were talking about, the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: culture and identity they wanted to identify. Luke Keyshaw embodies
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: it with his base run in. I don't know if
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: there's a more exciting player on the Twins than watching
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Luke Keishaw run bases.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. Time will tell, as they say. We
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: always do this. We always spend more time on topics
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: than I anticipate.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So we're going to resume to the rest of this rundown.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: That's okay, because that was the good one. That's the
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: one that was actually relevant. That's about the Twins? Nothing
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: else on here?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Quickly, around the league, I think we covered the Brewers–
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Plenty in this one. But the White Sox, they had
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: us right where they wanted us all along. The late
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: season swoon to lose the AL Central. And now here
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: they are 3-0 so far in the playoffs. They take
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a 1-0 lead into Game 2 in Cleveland tonight. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: then also tonight, Tampa and the Yankees Game 2 after
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the Yankees. Almost got no hit, Dan. Thoughts on the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: ALDS so far?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Guy that we both love and both know well. in
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Will Venable. That's so crazy. I've known Will since he
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: was 12. I covered him with the Padres. Later on,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I covered him in high school. He grew up in
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: a neighboring town and family friends. I met him when
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: he was 12, I should say. I was like 15.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Throughout the years, I just had weird crossovers with him.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Zach was at college with him. What did you do?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: You were playing for basketball i.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I did play-by-play of basketball games and i was also
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the baseball stadium pa announcer and he played obviously played
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: baseball he didn't at first though he was just there
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: for basketball right and then and then just decided to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: be the best player in the baseball team too and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: had a major league yeah.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I mean your dad's a major leaguer like you got
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a chance of doing this but uh but so will
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: venable pushing the right buttons grant taylor going four You know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that was insane to see a guy that throws two
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: innings go four to close out that game. And Murakami
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: is like, you know, when it kind of reminds me
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: of the way that Schwarber burst onto the scene back
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: in 15. And as one of my friends, Tony Andraki,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: who covered the Cubs forever, says he was America's favorite
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: adult son of Kyle Schwarber. Murakami um might be my
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: favorite uh adult son right now that guy is like
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: hilarious like his he is a character and he just
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: crushed that ball there today yeah uh what a like
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: everything's changed there three straight 100 lost seasons and yeah
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: here they are looking to come back to chicago up.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: 20 and you'll be covering them starting with game three.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Right yeah yeah and then on the uh On the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Rays and Yankees, man, Drew Rasmussen was just electric there.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like the Yankees pitched poorly in
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: that game either. No. One-nothing game.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The one hit they got, Austin Wells got thrown
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: out trying to stretch it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Wild game.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Look, you can say you don't need to see the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Brewers and the Rays in the World Series, but I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: would love to see the Brewers and the Rays in
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the World Series. These are franchises that have done this
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: for so long. The fact that the Brewers have never
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: won a World Series is just astounding to me. And
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the Rays have been there, but they've never won. And
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: it's been twice in the last 10 years, or maybe
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: it's been twice in the last 15 years.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I want one of them. I have no problem with
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the Rays. You can't ask me to root for anything Wisconsin-related.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. That's fair. I get that. I do get that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: But if you had to choose between the Dodgers and Wisconsin,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: would you really choose the Dodgers?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I respect that. I respect the passion there.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I actually would probably– I would rather see the Dodgers
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: than even the Braves. I'm still harboring ill will for
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: 35 years later, which we'll get to in a minute.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the Braves, they tied their series of the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Dodgers yesterday 1-1. Ray Kerr. Who is this guy? Clutch
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: in the clincher in the wildcard round. Clutch last night.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: He missed all of last season due to injury. He's
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: pitched nine games total for the Braves this year, but
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: two of the biggest ones. And the Braves are in
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: business against the Dodgers.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. Until he pitched the other day,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: not yesterday, but the other day, I'd never heard of
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Ray Kirk. And this happens, right? Other league. I mean,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: we're talking about a guy with like 50 games in
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: his major league career. And he's 32, right? 31.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe he's turning 32 by now.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: He has. But yeah, he has. He is from Sacramento.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: So he's got that going for him. California guy. 29
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: games for the Padres across 2022 and 23.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: 10 games for the Braves in 24. Missed all last year.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And just uh absolutely bailed out walt weiss bailed out
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: walt weiss because everybody in baseball is going why did
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: you need chris sale with the four run lead i
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: do get it you gotta close out that series and
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: win it and.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I do get that i do but like then you
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: take chris sale out of pitching game two in dodger
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: stadium and it was like is he gonna go is
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: he gonna go and They decided no, and now he's
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: going to pitch on six days at home. Walt Weiss
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: looks like a genius now because Ray Kerr and the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: group came through, but the offense was huge and got
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: them enough, and the pitching kept that I mean Didier
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Fuentes who is just turning into a star and he
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: couldn't get the four out the four inning out either
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: he gave up the home run the ninth but he
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: got 10 outs or he got 11 outs and came
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: up one shot and they had to go to the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: closer okay, that's fine. That was amazing. They're pitching, you know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: when you have Rizal Iglesias coming out of the bullpen,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you feel pretty good. And now you have Chris Sale
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: in game three looking to go up 2-1. So that's
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a very interesting series.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: They resume tomorrow night. Game three is in the National
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: League on Tuesday. All right. Another great weekend of football.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: P.J.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Fleck and the Gophers win the jug.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That was cool.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: So cool.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You were hyped.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Like the fourth time in my life. Uh, and the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: first time they've ever done.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: It at home in my life. Yeah. Yeah. I did that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I was a couple months old when that happened. Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: When they were, yeah. Um, that was awesome.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, they, they had a terrible game against
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Mississippi state a few weeks ago. And it's like, the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: questions were, is it time to move on from Fleck
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and whatever? Like, man, it, He just feels like the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: right guy in the right place to me. Yeah. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: don't know that the act would work as well at
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the Ohio States and Alabamas of the world, but the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: team needs something to make it stand out in this crowded,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: crowded college football landscape. They're always also ran in the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Big Ten, but he makes those moments happen sometimes very bizarrely.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He does. No, I remember when you mentioned it
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the other day that you covered him a little bit
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: during that run, and I covered him a little bit
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: during that run. You sent me to that Northwestern game. Oh, yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: That's right. And I remember going to the post-game press conference,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and it was an inspiring press conference. And then you
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: get to the end of it, and it's sort of
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: like the Aflac duck. Like, what did he just say?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Was there a usable quote in there? anywhere or was
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: it all cliches rowing the boat all that stuff it
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: it is um it is inspiring i get how it
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: works and there was not a not a single usable
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: quote uh from a victory that was important to them
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: at the time and i was like yeah this is
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: impossible i don't know how i don't know how people
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: write this.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: But it's fun to watch anyway that's that's what you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: do just use the quotes just.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Pretend but it was it was entertaining yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah This segment's supposed to be about the NFL, though,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: because Tyler's not here, so we don't have to listen
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to any of his crap. But it's time to talk
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: 49ers and Vikings. Dan's a 49ers fan. I'm a Vikings fan.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: They're both 4-0. Who you got, Dan? Who's better?
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay, we'll get a pretty good idea about this.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: What week is that? November 22nd, if the 49ers are
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: still healthy. And that'll be a heck of a matchup.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: The substation doesn't get you. Yeah, Brian Flores gives Kyle
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Shanahan fits. And if there's one team that can mess
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: with him. Now, what team will have a better record
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: at that point if both teams are healthy? I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the 49ers 100%. Brock Purdy is playing like an MVP.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You don't fear the Vikings offense?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Come on. Man, that's a heck of an offense. That
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: intimidating Dolphins defense coming in 32nd in defense, I believe.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Was it 22 yesterday? Did you guys get 22?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: No, we opted not to take 22 points. TJ Hawkinson
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: sat on the ball.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Was it 15? Did they win 15-10?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: 15-10.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: So they got five field goals against the least intimidating
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: defense in football, the team that is tanking.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: But could have had a touchdown, Dan. Could have had
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. Opted not to because … I like that.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: It was a smart strategic play. It also cost a
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: lot of betters. some money or won them some money.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Cause I, I don't, the Vikings were 10 point favorites
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: before the game. And I should have said something because
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: now it just sounds like obvious hindsight, but like how,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: how can a team that can't score be a 10
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: point favorite against anybody?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: But, but the defense, I will say that defense is electric.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: That defense is just, and, and the Niners offense is
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: just unbelievable. I mean, they had a terrible day yesterday and, and, uh, critical.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: It looked like the Broncos might be coming back again.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: The Broncos are the cardiac kids under Bo Nix, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: he's so good in the fourth quarter, and they had
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: just beaten the Rams the same way the week before.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And then Purdy just pulls out the, hey, let's throw
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: it to George Kittle in space. And Kittle, who's coming
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: back from an Achilles, had a 19.84 miles per hour
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: run down the middle of the field, burning every safety
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: and cornerback for a 56-yard put-away touchdown. And I was like, yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: that's a Hall of Famer right there. And it's Mike
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Evans looks amazing in this offense. McCaffrey has been very
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: good but not stellar so far. And Purdy's just making
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: great decisions. But the defense the last couple weeks has been–
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: or the defense yesterday was really stepped up. I think
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Dre Greenlaw was– there's some good highlights of him going
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: at Sean Payton yesterday because Sean Payton cut him in
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: March without so much as a phone call. Made like
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the HR person or– no, no, told the agent, And
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the agent had to let Dre Greenlaw know that he
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: was cut. And he went up and he was all
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: over Sean Payton. During the game, there was a tackle
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: early on. And then at midfield, as they were coming
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  Speaker 2: off the field, Payton pushed him away. So, I don't know.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: The Niners, I'm pretty fired up about.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: As I tweeted yesterday, we're going to find out if
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it's possible to win a Super Bowl with defense, field goals,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and a really good kick returner. Because that's pretty much all...
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: All the Vikings have right now. That game, by the way,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: against the Niners is in Mexico City.
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  Speaker 2: Home game for the Niners, baby.
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  Speaker 1: All things could happen in that one.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Home game for the Niners. John Feliciano. There are more
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: John Feliciano jerseys. He's retired, but he played for the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Niners until 2025. I think he was mostly practice squad.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But Mexico City, Niners played there three years ago. It
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: was a home game then. It's going to be a
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: home game now. Thank goodness because they can't win in Minneapolis.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It's been 1991 since they won in Minneapolis. 1991.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Keep us away from the substation. I'll take that. Don't
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: need that. Quickly, last couple things. It is October, and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: 35 years ago was the 1991 season with the last
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Twins World Series. Thought it would be fun throughout this
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: month to just kind of check in on that team.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: On this day, Dan, October 5th, 1991, It was the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: final regular season win for the Twins, second to last game.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And I did not remember this, but they played host
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: to Toronto in the final series of the season, who,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of course, was their opponent in the ALCS a few
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: days later. So a little double dose of Toronto. But
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it was Scott Erickson got the win, his 20th, which
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: tied for the league lead for the season with Tom Glavin.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: That was cool.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: John Smiley, Bill Gullickson of Detroit. So that's it. That's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: today in 1991 history for you. That's all I got.
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  Speaker 2: Did Erickson win the Cy Young for that? He came
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: in second. You know who he lost to? I bet
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: it was Roger Clemens. Yep. He lost to Roger Clemens.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And Roger Clemens deserved it. Roger Clemens went 18-10, but
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: he struck out 241 and 271 in his third inning.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And he had a 262 ERA and 271 in his
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: third inning. Scott Erickson was great. 20-8, 318 ERA, but 204.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Roger Clemens pitched 67 and a third more innings than
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Scott Erickson did that season. That's insane.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: That was his, that was Erickson's second season. This just
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: goes to show you that like you can project nothing
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: in this league, but he had two great first two years.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: It looked like he's going to be rock for the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: twins for the next 10. And like, it really went
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: downhill pretty quickly. I mean, he had some, he had
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: some decent years, but overall those were, those were two
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: yet actually came back at a good one with the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Orioles in, in 97. But, um, yeah, it's, uh, the,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the ERA went up pretty quickly after that. Um, we
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier on the show, but on Thursday, we're
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: going to do another mailbag. Tyler will be back. If
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you have questions for him about the player's perspective, uh,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: please leave them in the comments below this video. I'll
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: also put a post up on the YouTube page, uh,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: asking for comments. We might ask on X as well,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: wherever you can find us to get us a question.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: We'll take it, uh, All things offseason, free agency, whatever
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: is on your mind about the Twins. We'll talk about
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: them on Thursday. And just a reminder, if you like
• 38:44
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• 38:47
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• 38:49
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• 38:52
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• 38:55
  Speaker 1: on Twin Cities Territory.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye.