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I Am All In…Again: Who Will Win in the Showdown, Lorelai vs. Taylor? (Season 4 E4 “Chicken or Beef?) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just do.
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  Speaker 1: H. I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one
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  Speaker 1: a lot of productions that I heeart radio Media. iHeart podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We are recapping episode Well, it's four o four so
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  Speaker 1: episode four, season four and it's Chicken or called Chicken
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  Speaker 1: or Beef. We have Lauren Lester joining us. Let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about Lauren. He's actor including
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  Speaker 1: voiceover major Broadway rolls, two hundred TV shows, and a
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  Speaker 1: small part on on Gilmore Girls, who worked on It
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  Speaker 1: at Herman alongside at Herman as Richard's business associate for
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  Speaker 1: two episodes. Welcome Lauren, how you doing. What'd you think
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  Speaker 1: of the episode?
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  Speaker 2: Great? First of all, nice to meet you. We didn't
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  Speaker 2: get to work together when I was on the show,
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  Speaker 2: but nice to meet you. And the two episodes I did,
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  Speaker 2: I played a character named Anson who was his business partner,
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  Speaker 2: and in one episode I was in a business meeting
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  Speaker 2: with him, and in the next episode, I was at
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  Speaker 2: his bachelor party before he renewed his vows. And then
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  Speaker 2: in episodes coming up, they didn't bring me my face back,
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  Speaker 2: but they kept referring to the character Anson and he's well,
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  Speaker 2: call Anson down at the office, okay, take care of
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  Speaker 2: And then the season after that they started calling him
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  Speaker 2: Hanson with an eight. So they never got back to me,
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  Speaker 2: but they got back to.
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  Speaker 1: The character all right. Good. October fourteenth, two thousand and three,
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  Speaker 1: was the date Rory comes home from Star's Hollow from
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  Speaker 1: college to find out Dean and Lindsay are getting married.
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  Speaker 1: It's their wedding day, laural I's trying to break around
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  Speaker 1: at the end, Taylor gets in the way. Meanwhile, Dean
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  Speaker 1: makes a confession during his bachelor party. Directed by Chris Long,
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  Speaker 1: written by Jane Epinson. What'd you think of this episode overall, Lauren?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was kind of bittersweet, right because you know,
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  Speaker 2: Rory comes home and doesn't expect to come home to
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  Speaker 2: a wedding, and she didn't expect to get invited to
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  Speaker 2: the wedding and the groom is is her ex so
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's kind of bittersweet. She's happy for him,
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  Speaker 2: but not happy for herself.
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  Speaker 1: Right, all right, So Rory's in town from college. Rory
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  Speaker 1: has a low key Stars Hollow day planned. She's reading
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  Speaker 1: in the gazebo, she finds out Dean and Lindsay's wedding
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  Speaker 1: is tomorrow. She runs into to ask why she didn't
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  Speaker 1: tell her, which seems weird that she didn't, and we
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  Speaker 1: find out that Dave Ragalski left for college in California
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  Speaker 1: and the and the band. He left the band, so
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  Speaker 1: she awkwardly runs awkwardly runs into Dean and he invites
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  Speaker 1: her to the wedding after apologizing for not initially inviting
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  Speaker 1: her in Laala. She wonders if she should go, so
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  Speaker 1: dean bachelor party stops by Luke Steiner all that everybody's drunk,
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  Speaker 1: and hilarity ensues, but Dean is so drunk that Luke
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  Speaker 1: just sort of stops the party, kicks the guys out,
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  Speaker 1: takes Dean upstairs, puts him on the Luke's I'm Sorry
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  Speaker 1: Jess's old bed, and poor Dean is pining in his
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  Speaker 1: drunken state or his lost relationship with her. He's just pining,
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  Speaker 1: and he asked the crucial quest question of all.
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  Speaker 3: Young men, why doesn't she love me?
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  Speaker 1: And then he nods off into Never Never let Lauren
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on the awkwardness of Rory and Dean running into
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  Speaker 1: each other very relatable. Do you think that Rory should
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  Speaker 1: go to Dean's wedding or not? What's your opinion on this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously in their meeting they had mixed
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  Speaker 2: feelings about the whole thing. It's very clear, so it's
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  Speaker 2: probably not a good idea, and I think Luke kind
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  Speaker 2: of puts the button on that.
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  Speaker 1: So after the drunken Bachelor Party reveal, do you think
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  Speaker 1: there was any part of Dean that where he didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to go through his wedding at all? Seems like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was that tension whether you were going
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  Speaker 1: to whether Luke was going to have a talk with
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  Speaker 1: him the next day or tell Rory or tell Laura,
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  Speaker 1: but he just kind of just zipped it up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was too he was too drunk to talk
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  Speaker 2: to him the night before, and the next day he
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  Speaker 2: was bound and determined to do it. Was clearly so
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  Speaker 2: I know what Luke could have said.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Laurela, I got an alarm because because and
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  Speaker 1: I you know, this was for me one of the
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  Speaker 1: more grating opening scenes. I just I hate alarms or
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  Speaker 1: ringing telephones in film and TV.
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  Speaker 3: I just it drives me nuts.
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  Speaker 2: As in your house where you open the door by
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  Speaker 2: a mistake, and oh, for.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, for sure, it's like the worst thing in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It's the worst sound in the world. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why people use this in films and TVs. Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's it's effective in certain big movies where their alarms
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  Speaker 1: are going off and you need to cue the audience
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  Speaker 1: the dangerism in it. But in this it just seems
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  Speaker 1: so out of place.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not as grating as people singing along with
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  Speaker 2: the radio in the car. That's really graty.
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  Speaker 1: A different kind of alarm. But Kirk installed an alarm
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  Speaker 1: in Laureliz's house and Laura I can't figure out how
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  Speaker 1: to work the damn thing, so it's always going off.
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  Speaker 1: So the whole opening sequences is this alarm just and
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  Speaker 1: they're screaming at it. Lorelei and Roy are screaming over
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  Speaker 1: each other. I wanted to fast through it, forward through it.
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  Speaker 1: Kirk comes over to fix the alarm, but he can't
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  Speaker 1: because Jimmy, the alarm tech, is out of town. But
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  Speaker 1: he's able to change a code for Lorelei, but then
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  Speaker 1: the phone line got accidentally disconnected. Won't, won't, won't. Kirk
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  Speaker 1: finally has succeeded in disconnecting the alarm, and confessency just
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  Speaker 1: wants to watch out for loyal I. He then follows
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  Speaker 1: her in a little red security golf cart. Kind of funny,
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  Speaker 1: nice to see a softer side of Kirk, don't you think, Lauren?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's kind of hard to tell, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: The soft side. He's kind of the same, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all along, He's kind of at one level, I think, don't.
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  Speaker 1: You Yeah, what do you think? Yes? I agree? What
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  Speaker 1: do you think of the whole alarm narrative? Did it
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  Speaker 1: work for you? Well?
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of you know, having had that experience
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  Speaker 2: with alarms, you know, you just go and you put
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  Speaker 2: punch in the number and you turn it off. You
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  Speaker 2: tell the alarm company your code name, and everything's fine.
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  Speaker 2: So they seem to have to go through some machinations
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen before, but you know, it's the it's
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  Speaker 2: the imagination of Amy Sherman Palladino, I guess. But these
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  Speaker 2: things can happen, can also happen. They have to stand
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  Speaker 2: in one place, you know, and things like that. I
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  Speaker 2: just had.
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  Speaker 1: I just had a whole I just redid the alarm
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  Speaker 1: system of security cameras and everything. Motion detectors in the
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  Speaker 1: house here, and it's the easiest thing in the world
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  Speaker 1: to arm and disarm its.
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  Speaker 3: It's so easy. Yeah, so I got it.
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  Speaker 2: This is wouldn't have been a good episode though, they
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  Speaker 2: just turned it off.
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  Speaker 1: Now I don't know how alarm alarms. Larelai gets a
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  Speaker 1: seasoned assist letter from Taylor and the Historical Society to
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  Speaker 1: not do construction on the dragonfly in. He suggested putting
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  Speaker 1: together presentation into talent meeting, for which they have to
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  Speaker 1: kind of force themselves up on the podium to deliver that.
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  Speaker 1: So the town meetings taking forever. Taylor tells Laurela he
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  Speaker 1: has to book a walk through with this Historical Society
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  Speaker 1: for the next morning at six am. He dribes Laurelai
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  Speaker 1: nuts threat, she threatens him, grabs his jacket, and probably
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  Speaker 1: the best scene in the entire episode in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, Taylor was just setting.
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  Speaker 3: A trap for her and she fell right into it.
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  Speaker 1: He's got what he wanted, right, He got his ice
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  Speaker 1: cream truck out in front of Luke's time, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even an issue with Luke. Ever, Like most it
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  Speaker 1: was good, good stuff, good stuff, I really love that
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  Speaker 1: scene when she grabbed his collar and it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: these two knockout.
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  Speaker 3: Actors just going at it, right. It was just so
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  Speaker 3: great to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Suki tells Laurela I that Michelle called and thinks he's
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  Speaker 1: being iced out of the Dragon flying In, so they
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  Speaker 1: they go to visit him. He gets a new job.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine this? He's Michelle. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's not a man character, but he's an important character.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what a sea change for a character, just
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  Speaker 1: like Boom And there he is in in some swanky
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  Speaker 1: new job and some you know, cool ultra luxe hotel
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  Speaker 1: and where where where was it was? It was it
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  Speaker 1: in New York City?
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  Speaker 2: In New York. It was like like a Soloho or something.
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  Speaker 1: Right, he was, he was gone, He left Connecticut, he
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  Speaker 1: left stars out. I mean, what a huge jump for
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  Speaker 1: a you know, a beloved character, right and just to
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  Speaker 1: have him like I'm out of here, Boom, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: staying with it. It's very jarring for me. I know
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  Speaker 1: it was jarring for the fans. What did you think
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  Speaker 1: of that move?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 2: He comes back, though, he comes back to try to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, make make the whole thing happens. Oh, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like he permanently left, right.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't ask you about that. I asked you about
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  Speaker 1: the jarring move.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't jar me because I've been to Soho and
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  Speaker 2: since it's not jarring.
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  Speaker 1: There, you're not cooperating.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yes, and you right? Yes, it was.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking for agreement here.
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  Speaker 2: It was so a jarring. It was jarring there.
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  Speaker 1: Is That's what I'm looking for. It's so jarring, wasn't it? Live?
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  Speaker 1: You were weren't you disturbed by that?
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  Speaker 2: I was jarring?
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  Speaker 1: Michelle Suki LORELEI take a photo in front with their
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  Speaker 1: sledge Amazon on the porch of the That was kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny.
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  Speaker 2: That was jarring?
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  Speaker 1: Were you? I was jarred too, that was very jarring.
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  Speaker 1: Don't play with me, Lauren, do not do that. All right?
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  Speaker 1: So we've never seen Laurel I lose her cool with Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: We've never seen that.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: What'd you think of that reaction? I loved it personally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she had just reached the end. That
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  Speaker 2: was it. I mean she'd had enough. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: blame her. You know, she'd done everything, been over Barbers
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  Speaker 2: and anybody's ever dealt with like a bureaucracy of any
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  Speaker 2: kind or you know, self important people. It just you know,
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  Speaker 2: she went as far as she could and then she
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  Speaker 2: had a grand by the lapels and give him shake.
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  Speaker 3: You know. That was so funny. Yeah, that was so funny.
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  Speaker 1: And then she her epic rant about business with Luke right,
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  Speaker 1: and he lets her just go, go go, And it
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  Speaker 1: just has that simple answer to our problems. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like the beauty of the character. Uh all right,
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  Speaker 1: he look, Lauren, I want to talk about you. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about you. Okay, let's talk about Lauren. And well,
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  Speaker 1: I just.
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  Speaker 2: Want to say, as far as Gilmore Girls is concerned,
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy because I've done like two hundred TV shows,
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  Speaker 2: and I get recognized for this show probably as much as,
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  Speaker 2: if not more than many or most of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I've done. I get next all the time. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I just said, I decide to know you were and
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  Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls. I saw it in Gilmore Girls. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Well, this show is just it's streamed
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  Speaker 1: right all day every day, multiple platforms. The fans love it,
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  Speaker 1: they watch it all the time. It's it's it's so therapeutic.
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  Speaker 1: It's so addictive. They don't even watch an episode like this,
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  Speaker 1: Well why not? I mean even even like kind of
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  Speaker 1: a clunker episode, which I thought this was, it's still
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  Speaker 1: very watchable. You still got a lot of chuckles, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's still fun. You get some highlights. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: it's all worth forty minutes.
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  Speaker 2: What did what did you have? One hundred and sixty two?
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  Speaker 2: How many episodes did you guys do?
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  Speaker 1: One? One five something, one five three, one five four?
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  Speaker 2: I mean each one cannot be like, you know, perfect,
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  Speaker 2: with that many episodes. It's amazing that so many were
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  Speaker 2: There'll be clunkers along the way.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not acceptable. It's jarring.
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  Speaker 2: That's jarring. You know what was really jarring was you know,
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  Speaker 2: at that point in my career I was very excited
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  Speaker 2: to be on the show, and then they brought me
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  Speaker 2: back the next week to be in the bachelor party,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, this guy's gonna be a recurring character.
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  Speaker 2: It was very excited it was gonna be a recurring
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  Speaker 2: character on the show. And then like a few episodes later,
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  Speaker 2: Edward Herman announces, you know, I'm I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: go into the office anymore. He just he calls them
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  Speaker 2: once in a while and let me talk to Hanson
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  Speaker 2: or Hanson whoever.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: However, the the guy I never came back, and I
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  Speaker 2: was I was disappointed about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame me. And you just bought the boat.
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  Speaker 1: You just put the down payment on the yacht.
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  Speaker 2: They say, don't spend the money in advance, and I
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  Speaker 2: did I do it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's gotta suck. That's happened to me before.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So you're in season five as Richard's business associate
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  Speaker 1: associate describe working with Ed Herman.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, what a legend. I mean, this guy, Uh, Franklin
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  Speaker 2: Roosevelt is who I think of when I when I
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  Speaker 2: walked in there. I mean legendary frank like Roosevelt and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a great man at the theater. And he
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  Speaker 2: just was. He was a wonderful colleague to work with.
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  Speaker 2: He really mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I had one scene with him. I don't really have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of scenes with him, but I remember the
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  Speaker 1: first time I worked with him was at the golf
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  Speaker 1: course at his country club.
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  Speaker 2: You mean in the whole show, you didn't have that
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  Speaker 2: many scenes.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't know that many scenes. I mean every once in
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  Speaker 1: a while, you know, very infrequently did we have a
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  Speaker 1: scene together. But yeah, I worked the first scene was
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  Speaker 1: I was going to the country club to play golf
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  Speaker 1: with with with with Richard, and it was just such
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  Speaker 1: a great day. You know, he really was a very
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  Speaker 1: generous actor, very supportive. He could tell I was a
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  Speaker 1: little was a little nervous because you know, he's at Herman,
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  Speaker 1: right and you're acting with a mountain. You're you're acting
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  Speaker 1: with a monument here. Literally, Yeah, and I mean physically imposing.
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  Speaker 1: But the sweetest guy in the world, right, And it
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  Speaker 1: was just great.
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  Speaker 3: It was just a really great day.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was in both episodes. I was
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  Speaker 2: just what you call the business, a day player. I
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  Speaker 2: was just there for the day, and he to me
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  Speaker 2: as though I was, you know, a regular on the show.
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  Speaker 1: So it's wonderful you were a forever player, yes, because
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  Speaker 1: now it's.
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  Speaker 2: Forever because of streaming.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the scenes is Richard's bachelor party where
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  Speaker 1: it's a room full of men smoking cigars. What do
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  Speaker 1: you remember about shooting that scene? Do you do you
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  Speaker 1: do you smoke cigars, by the way, Well.
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  Speaker 2: I have, I have, I don't currently, but I have
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  Speaker 2: and I have sat at poker tables smoking cigars, so
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  Speaker 2: I was very familiar with what was going on there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was well.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Tell us about the hundreds of TV shows one hundred
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: literally two hundred TV shows episodes. What what stands out
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: to you about Gilmore Girls compared to the other shows
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  Speaker 1: that you were on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you're on a show that's currently kind of
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  Speaker 2: legendary and like a hot show, that's different than a
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  Speaker 2: show that develops over time and becomes legendary, like, for example,
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  Speaker 2: I was the voice of Robin and night Wing on
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  Speaker 2: the original Batman series Batman, the animated series, and that
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  Speaker 2: was a popular show at the time, but over the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: years it's become like really iconic, you know, at the
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  Speaker 2: time doing Gilmore Girls, Gilmo Girls at the time was iconic,
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  Speaker 2: So it was very exciting to be part of that
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  Speaker 2: kind of you know, that kind of show. And sometimes
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: you do shows that nobody sees and they go away
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: and then they resurface years later, and sometimes they never
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: reserve us at all. So it was fun to be
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: in a show that was great at the time and
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  Speaker 2: is still considered great.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: What list some of the shows that you've been on
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the ones that we would know, probably all of them.
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  Speaker 2: But Criminal Minds and Curb Your Enthusiasm was one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorites. I had a wonderful part on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 1: What was your part on Curby Enthusia?
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  Speaker 2: I was in this great episode. It was one of
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  Speaker 2: the most popular episodes called the Black Swan, and I
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: played the best friend of Paul Mazerski, the great Paul Mazerski,
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  Speaker 2: who was a regular on the show, recurring on the show.
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  Speaker 2: And he dies in that episode. And I come after
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  Speaker 2: Larry and accuse Larry of causing his death because Larry's
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  Speaker 2: screaming at him on the golf course and it gives
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: him a heart attack and he dies. So the whole
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: episode is about his funeral, and I speak at the funeral,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and there's a subplot about Larry accidentally killing a black
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  Speaker 2: swan on the golf course. It is just it is
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  Speaker 2: just brilliant the right I mean, I was gonna say
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the writing is brilliant, but actually we all did the writing.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It's all improv really on probably only they say is
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: in this scene, we need to accomplish this. You know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: you need to tell Larry that you're upset that he
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: he'll your friend.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Go, how do you do coverage that way?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Well, they back up and they say, okay, pick it
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: up from where you went off on such and such subjects.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Then they go back to that.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not remembering everything you said, are you?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: They are?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And they said, where you go back to the thing
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  Speaker 2: where you said about and and you know it doesn't
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: have to be perfect, but you know, I'd pretty much
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: remembered what I was saying, you know, from five weeks ago.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but that's the way they do the whole show.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: It's all and they just spend the whole day cracking
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: each other up. So it's a long day because they're
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: just they're trying to make each other laugh, which is
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: really fun.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Larry's just what a what a comedy mind at
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: work there? What's another what's another favorite show that you
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I did?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Which was you know, a Star Trek Takeoff? And that
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: was that was really fun?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry? Was the name of that again?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: The Orville?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: The Orville sure? Sure, short for.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think just they just had their last season.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that, like Seth McFarlane And.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: This is what I'm gonna say. The great thing about
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that shows working with the great Seth McFarlane. This guy,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: he's in the show, he's the producer and the creator
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of the show. And while he's sitting there studying his
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: lines for his next scene, they're bringing him costumes and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: showing him stuff for next week's episode. And they're showing
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: him the set that they're going to move to when
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: they're done with our set, and he's approving that, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: his mind just works in a billion different ways, different
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: fragments in compartmentalize, and he was just I mean, he's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: just a marvel for sure.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Give me some other shows you were on that might well.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: The very first TV show I did became iconic. It's
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: called The Facts of Life.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Ah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was recurring on that show and work with
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the great Nancy McKeon, who is still a dear friend
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: of mine, and funny a relationship where I was in
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: love with her and she could not stand me, and
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: so I would keep showing up with flowers. And right now,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: if you look at it, it kind of seems like stalking
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but comedic stalking. I keep showing up
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and wanting to date her and she keeps saying no.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And the more she says, no, the more I show up.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: So it was pretty.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Funny, absolutely fantastic. Well, what's your opinion of the state
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of the industry right now? Are are you getting work now?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Is it slowed down? What's happening?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: My career has moved all by itself into different areas.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It's not like I said, well, now I just want
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to do this or I just want to do that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: It just has happened that way. So I was talking
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: about the Batman series. When I was doing that, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: was doing only voiceovers. It's like there was like ten
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: years where I could not get an on camera job,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and I did only voiceovers, and then I did only commercials,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and then I did only guest stars on TV shows,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and now I'm pretty much a theater actor. And I
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: was on Broadway for a year, and I'm going on
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: tour on national tour with with another show. And I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: was on national tour with another show and doing an
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: off Broadway show, and so and moving to New York
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: had a lot to do with that, because I'm an
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: La La boy. But I moved to New York, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: my career has been for the past, you know, for
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the past, since twenty eighteen, almost exclusively in the theater.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: You know, that's that feeds you. That's wonderful.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: You know that keeps me and you know, wonderful going well.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Good for you.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I'm glad things are working out for you, because it's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it's a tough business, it is.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And it's in very bad shape now.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: So it truly truly is, isn't it. It's it's remarkable.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Other things are taking its place. The studios are rethinking rategies.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It's not really centered so much on film and TV.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It's it's really other experiences. But you know they're trying.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: What we need is some text credits in this state.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: We need some incentives to get productions back in the state.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of the issue.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's why there so much work here in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: New York. I did a TV show a couple of
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: months ago, a brand new show on NBC called The
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins, and that was shot
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: in Yonkers, which is just northern And when you go
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: into Yonkers, the sign says welcome to Yankers Hollywood on
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: the Hudson, because that's how much they do there.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're building out a lot of studio space
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in Newark and places that you would not suspect. Right
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: right across the bridge into New Jersey, there's tons of
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It's just really sad, isn't it. Like all of this
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: stuff is just left this town. It's it's hollowed out.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Everybody's worried about their jobs. You know, it's it's awful.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It's just awful. What what What kind of a tax
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: incentive does New York offer?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a double incentive. It's the state and the city.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Really, so what's the combined Uh.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I don't really know.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: It's got to be pretty good. If people are building,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you know, spending you know, hundreds of millions of dollars
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to build out facilities and sounds, I would think so
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that ain't cheap. You know.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I just read this variety. They're building a billion dollar
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: studio facility and they're getting three hundred million of it
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: back in tax incentives. So that would be like.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Thirty there it is. That's that's what you need. You
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: need thirty Yeah, you know, la is is I don't
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: know if it's dying, but the but you know, Hollywood
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is contributed a lot to that city over the last
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: hundred and so years.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Entertainment capital of the world.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Right, why would why would you want to dismantle that? Yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you know, Sacramento, shake yourself. You know, let's let's let's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: offer you know, get together and and and let's offer
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: uh these tax incentives to retain and recover this business
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: because it's gone. Yeah, it's no longer there. There's major
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Warner Brothers sitting there with empty sound stages. They don't
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: rent them out. That's right, it's every major studio. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have a buddy that works in locations and he's a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: big time locations manager on big, big, huge, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars ten episode TB productions, and you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: he goes to Paramountain Parks and the he says, there's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: so much parking available in there's parking structures. He says,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it like that. It's Barren said, before
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you had to you know, you were lucky around Yeah, late, right,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: But I mean like inside in signed the studio, inside
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the gates, those you know, the employee lots there were
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: always jammed. Now it's like no, but it's a couple
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: of cars.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Here and there.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: It's very very sad. I'm near Malibu. I'm I I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: got out of lay.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't take it anymore.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: It was it was too crowded, you know, it just
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it just it just got to be, you know, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: we we we we My son was very young at
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the time, and and we just wanted to get out
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and get to a calmer, less crowded situation.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just it was just you could not
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: really do your day. Uh. You had to plan your
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: day around a very small window where you could get
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: out and not.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Be in hours and hours and hours of traffic.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Have any of the fires of the floods.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Been through it all? Yes, been through it all? Yeah?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Been th earthcakes, fires, floods. That's that's life in southern California, right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You know the house shakes now, I don't even flinch.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, okay, they say the Native American
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: word for Malibu that it means in English, don't live here.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You know, it's that it was devastating.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: That was devastating.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I took a I travel a lot, and one day,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you know, the four or five was so jammed up.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I told the driver to just I said, just take
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: me pch, you know, let's go pch And uh to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the airport and I hadn't been down there since the fires.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all gone right.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: It was shocking. Yeah, I was shocked. I could not
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: believe it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But they're you know, they'll they'll build it back, I guess.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: But it's it's man, Lauren. Maybe you and I could
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: start a movement.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: What do you think.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's put the toothpaste back in the tube.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Shall all right? Look, it was a pleasure me and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you talking to you. Always come back anytime, and good
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: luck with everything you're doing in the theater. You are
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: really contributing to the culture now, you know, giving people live experiences,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: which I mean there's nothing better and more vital than
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: live theater when it's done it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I agree. That's why I moved to New York for
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: just absolutely thrilling.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: So congratulations on that and continued success to you, sir, everybody.
• 28:32
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