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Charting the Course of Comedians with Michael Calvin Jr. · Yeah Buddy! Podcast

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  All right. Yes, yes, yes. Well, what's going on, man? This is your man,
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  Buddy Romig, and we are back at it with another episode of the Yeah Buddy podcast.
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  And this episode is brought to you by the Comedy Cash Cow Competition.
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  So if you are a stand-up comedian, you want a chance to win $1,000 and start
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  in your own short film movie, go to www.comedycashcow.com.
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  That is going down May 25th, Vacaville, California, Comedy Cash Cow Competition.
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  All right, y'all, Let's get into it. Let's get to this episode.
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  You know what I would do on the Yeah Buddy podcast.
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  Every episode, I try to break in with one of my friends in the entertainment business.
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  We chop it up, see what we got going on, talk about our journeys in the entertainment
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  business, just crazy stories and things that we've learned along the way.
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  And this episode is like no other. This episode, we got my good friend.
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  We got a stand-up comedian.
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  He is host of the Say It Loud comedy show at Laughs Unlimited.
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  He is a podcaster with his own podcast called Blunts and Bullshit.
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  I I want y'all to give it up right now for my good friend, Mr.
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  Michael Calvin Jr., y'all. Hey, hey, hey, hey. How we doing?
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  Good, man. Good. How you doing, Mike? Pretty good, sir. Pretty good. Pretty good.
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  So what's going on with you, man? What's going on? You got a show tonight up
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  at the Guild Theater? Yes, sir. Tonight we are live at the Guild Theater.
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  Shout out to Drew Burks for the booking, DJ Soup, and DJ Soup on the ones and
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  twos. Shout out to the whole Guild Theater family.
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  Tonight it's Jarrell Parker, Drew Burks hosting, and myself.
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  Myself and your headliner is Hannibal Thompson out of the Bay.
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  Shout out to Hannibal and Jarrell and Drew and everybody. Nice.
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  And what's the next Say It Loud show?
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  The next Say It Loud comedy show is actually March 21st. And we have Kevin Tate.
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  Kevin Tate will be your headliner.
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  As seen on Comedy Central, tour with Kevin Hart, big guy out of L.A.,
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  has a lot of the Chocolate Sunday reels, a lot of the reels that they do.
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  A lot of his have gone viral, over 100,000 views, the whole nine.
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  So, yeah, this Thursday, Kevin Tate, get your tickets now.
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  Nice, nice, nice. Oh, and all March birthdays are in for free with a valid ID.
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  So, if you're born in March, just have a valid ID and you're in for free.
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  Dope, dope. Yeah, yeah, slide three, March. March, what was it?
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  March, what was it? March 21st, Life's Unlimited.
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  Show starts at 7 o'clock. So, yeah, you've been doing, you've been a stand-up
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  comedy, doing the same life for a minute.
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  Like, how did you get started into stand-up just in general?
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  Started into stand-up like as far as like what
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  what how did i get interested or just kind of like what was
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  it something yeah like what was it that made you like just get into like
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  do you remember like your first like stand-up performance yes i
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  do i remember so like growing up as a kid like i watched my dad was a big eddie
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  murphy fan so like i watched a lot of eddie murphy growing up so like trading
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  places coming to america harlem nights the golden child so 48 hours like that
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  that was a lot of the stuff that like my dad would watch.
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  And it was something, it was a moment that we would share together.
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  So like as a child, I would watch that. And then when a deaf comedy jam first
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  came out, I was in like middle school.
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  And what I would do is I would stay up late at night and I would take my little
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  VHS tape and I would record all of the deaf comedy jam episodes.
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  And then like I would spend like the whole weekend like watching it.
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  Like I'd wait till my grandparents went to sleep and then I would be up watching
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  it. And then by the time Monday came around, when it was time to go back to
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  school, like I would literally have their sets memorized.
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  So like when I would go to school on Monday, I would be, I would imitate whoever
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  I thought was funny and I would just like do their sets.
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  So like in hindsight, that's where it all started.
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  So my dad, my dad's interest in Eddie Murphy kind of led me into like when house
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  party came out, Martin Lawrence was like Martin Lawrence was who caught my eye
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  and house party, even though he had a small role, he was the DJ.
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  And so then then he was a host of deaf comedy jam.
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  And so then I started watching that. Then I found out he was a standup comedian
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  and then like Martin like took off, like the whole Martin Lawrence thing became a thing.
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  And so Martin was a big comedy influence. I followed everything Martin as a kid.
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  Then fast forward to as an adult.
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  How did I get into stand-up? Like, it was always something that interests me.
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  Shout out to my boy, Andre Bailey.
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  I've known Andre since I was a teenager. Like, I was 15 when I first met Andre.
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  And Andre had already started doing comedy.
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  Wow. When I was in my early 20s, I want to say was when Dre first started.
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  Dre's four years older than me. Four or five years older than me.
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  So like Dre was all so Dre had started doing doing comedy and so I had I had my own interest,
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  and so I started trying to figure out like where the open mics were and stuff
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  like that and then I saw Mike Epps stand up and I don't mean this in any disrespectful
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  way at all but like um in my early 20s that's like when like Mike Epps started
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  doing all the movies with with Ice Cube,
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  So I saw Mike Epps stand up and like when I would watch Mike Epps and all of
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  his movies, I was like, bro, I act like that in real life.
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  Like, you know what I'm saying? But he's getting paid millions of dollars.
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  And I was like, that is cool as shit.
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  Like, it looks like like it looks like all Mike Epps does is be himself all
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  all day long and he gets a bag.
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  So I was like, man, if I could do that, if I could just do that,
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  that's what I would want to do for the rest of my life.
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  And it's no disrespect to Mike Epps, but, like, Martin Lawrence,
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  Bernie Mac, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, like, all of those people,
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  like, you kind of get, like, a God syndrome, you know what I'm saying?
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  So, like, you look up to them, and you're like, I'll never be that.
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  So, like, but seeing Mike Epps, I was like, bro, if I could do that,
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  you know what I'm saying?
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  Like, I know I could do that, because he just seems like he's being himself.
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  So, like, I could be myself. self.
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  And so seeing Mike Epps do it gave me the, the motivation to feel like I could do it myself.
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  And like, I don't mean that in like, I'm not shitting on the brother.
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  It, he actually gave me the confidence to be myself because it looked like,
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  you know what I'm saying?
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  As much as I feel like, you know, Kevin, well,
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  Bernie Mac and all them and Kevin Hart, et cetera, like they're all being themselves
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  it just seemed like there was a level and even at the level he's at like i'm
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  not shitting on it it's it's super dope but like he was the one that made me feel like all right,
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  you you could probably get us a try yeah you he's one of those type of people
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  that you just kind of like i get what you said he's that person that you look
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  at he'd be like oh i could do it like yeah i could i could do this and shit
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  like that but it's not like disrespectful though because you see yourself in
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  them yeah yeah you see yourself yeah you see yourself in them you're Like you look at it,
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  like I said, everybody has that different type of person, like look like just on TV screen.
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  Cause those are the people that we, you know.
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  We don't really fit into like, we see ourselves like in the entertainment business
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  because, or, you know, occupying this, this realm to some, to some capacity.
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  Right. We just, like, you just look at that one person that you see on the TV
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  screen and it just, it just, it's just like a light bulb hits.
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  Yeah. He's like, fuck. Like, yeah. I could like, oh damn. Okay.
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  I see the way he's moving. He has similar, similar personality,
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  similar characteristics to me to where I'm more like, okay, all I gotta do is
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  just kind of like not copy his, like what he's doing, but just that,
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  that work ethic and stuff.
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  Yeah, like, like he's doing something that I'm like, okay, oh yeah,
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  I can do it. Like he cracked the code.
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  Like, and it just, it just flips that switch on you. You're like, that's it.
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  It's wild. Yeah. Yeah. So like seeing him and then, so like I started writing
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  and then shout out Dre actually referred me to my first open mic,
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  which was at, uh, oh my God. That's so disrespectful. Vincent.
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  Oh, oh, it was that. No, no, not Vince's guy.
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  Dang it it's in rancho that's so trash
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  i'm i'm on an interview i can't remember the first place i did comedy
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  at it was right over there in rancho
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  like you can go over the overpass jb's no no it's it's a it's a it's like a
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  biker bar oh i know what you're talking about but it's changed names so many
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  times though it's like yeah i know what you're talking about see all the og
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  is gonna be mad at me too for for not getting it right but like all right so
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  the first place i ever did comedy at It's like right over,
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  God, it's going to hit me too.
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  But so like Dre referred me to my first open mic, which was over in Rancho Cordova, like tucked away.
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  Like if you're getting off of the freeway off of 50, it's like right off of
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  the freeway. It's like right there.
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  So at that time I was, we're working at the motel, which was on the other side
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  of the freeway. At that time it was a quality in.
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  So I was writing, and this was when like the Michael Vick dog thing happened.
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  So like, I was writing a bunch of jokes about the Michael Vick dog thing. Right.
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  So I go to, I go to the open mic and like, I get there and I'm just kind of
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  looking around and I walk in and, um, I see the little sign up sheet or whatnot.
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  And so I just kind of like walk by it, but I got my notebook and Patrick J walks
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  up to me, shout out to Patrick J and he's like.
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  I don't know him at that time but he walks up to me and he's
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  like hey he was like are you are you uh are you
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  are you here for comedy and i was like yeah i'm here
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  to do that comedy i'm here to check it out or what or whatnot and
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  he was like are you signing up i was like yeah i
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  don't know i'm still trying to figure it out and he was
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  like oh all right he was like what's up i'm
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  patrick jay and he sticks his hand out and i'm
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  like what's up i'm mike calvin and like he
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  he doesn't even shake my hand bro he literally spins off
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  and is like i'm i'm assigned
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  you up and he spins off and like
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  i'm sitting there i still got my hand out right and i'm like i'm
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  like this bitch ass nigga i'm like
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  i bet like all right so we in here with like
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  haha niggas you know what i'm saying so i'm i'm
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  on that hype like i'm coming from the streets and shit i'm on i'm
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  like all right so niggas is jokes in in here so
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  and then i'm thinking telling myself i'm like
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  all right well bet he's the only one that knows my
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  name so like if they call me it's not like i gotta get up you know what i'm
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  saying i i can sit there and be like that guy left so you know a bunch of other
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  comics are are there they're signing up you know open And Mike starts,
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  boom, people start getting up on stage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Dre, so throughout the night, Dre shows up.
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  Dre's like, oh, oh, oh, what's up, Mike? So I'm like, oh, what's up,
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  nigga? I'm like, ah, fuck, now two people know who I am.
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  So then Dre starts introducing me to, like, the people that he knew and shit.
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  So I'm just kind of like, yeah, yeah, what's up?
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  So at this time, Shane Murphy was the host.
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  Shane comes up to me and Shane's like, are you, he's like, are you Michael Calvin?
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  And I was like, yeah. And he's like, all right, well, you're next.
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  And I'm like, all right. And he's like, so is there anything that you want me to say?
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  And I was like, I was like, no, I'll just say my name, like Beyonce.
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  You know so
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  he goes on stage and he fucking
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  roasts me bro he goes on stage and he's like he's
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  like ladies and gentlemen oh my god you guys are
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  inferred a treat this this man oh
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  my god he stopped doing cocaine and
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  flew all the way from dallas texas to do
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  comedy for you guys guys give it up for michael irvin
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  i mean michael calvin so so
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  like at this time i'm short-haired i
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  ain't got the dreads like i ain't got the glasses and shit so like he's fucking
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  clowning me so like i go on stage and i was like i was like yeah i was like
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  ladies and gentlemen give it up for or no i was like yes i'm not the only celebrity
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  here tonight give it up for your host,
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  the dancing guy from the Six Flag ads.
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  And I was like, and so like, they started laughing and then.
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  I was like, I was like, it's funny that he was bringing up football.
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  And I started talking about all of like my Michael Vick bits and just my bits
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  were basically about how Michael Vick's homeboys weren't shit.
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  Because like if you have a friend that's worth a hundred million dollars,
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  like what else do you have to do but go to jail?
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  Like if I have a friend that's worth a hundred million dollars,
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  like, bro, like I don't care if it's on film. Like, bro, that's me.
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  Like, I don't, I don't even know why we're still talking about all this video.
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  You have like, that's literally me on film. like take me to jail.
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  Like, I'm not even sure why we're talking about this. Like, I don't even know
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  this Michael Vick guy. I don't care if I have his shoes and jersey and all this
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  other signed paraphernalia on. This is just crazy.
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  This is a strange coincidence. So I had a pretty good set. So I got off stage,
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  like they were clapping.
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  And then I get off stage and Shane comes up to me and he, he,
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  he's like, Hey man, that was a great set. Like how, how long have you been doing comedy?
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  And I was like, bro, that was my first time ever on stage. And he was like,
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  for real and he was like man you you got a good
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  stage presence so you should keep at it and i was like all right cool and then
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  when i got off stage like a lot of the other comics were like said the same
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  thing they were like how long you've been doing it and i was like bro this is
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  my first time ever and they were just all like what and so like that was the
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  first time and that was 2006.
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  2006 2006 was the first time i got on stage yeah i think he was at the first
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  mic that i had went to up at the San Juan Club or North San Juan Club. I can't remember.
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  Somewhere there off the church. In Roseville? No, it wasn't in Roseville.
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  It was in like Citrus Heights area.
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  Citrus Heights area. It was named Kevin Porter used to do it.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Kevin Porter. Yeah.
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  Jesus, buddy. You been in the vault because, yeah, I forgot about that, Mike.
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  Yeah, we was doing the little gig right there off of San Juan.
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  Yeah, it was somewhere in the Citrus Heights area. Yeah, yeah,
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  yeah. in Carmichael area.
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  Shout out to Kevin Porter. Yeah, we was doing an open mic out there.
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  Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, that was, yeah, first open mic and then,
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  yeah, put me on my first showcase up there.
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  We did some competition. I can't remember who was all up in there. Yeah.
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  But yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was first open mic. Yeah, first showcase I
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  went to and stuff like that. So yeah, I remember.
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  Yeah, that was with, yeah, yeah, with Corey Calvert. Shout out to Corey Calvert.
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  Yeah, oh yeah, that's what y'all was doing.
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  That was my first like, like put on or like see like, like the whole like blunts and bullshit crew.
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  All these, even had the shirts on and everything. I was like,
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  oh, these niggas. Like, this was like a, like, like, like not even like a month
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  at the car. I'm like, oh, these niggas is like cash money out here.
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  Shout out to Fat Partner. Fat Partner made those t-shirts, man.
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  Shout out to my homeboy, uh, Stefan Williams, man. Shout out to Fat Partner, Big Smoke.
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  So yeah, for the people that don't know, blunts and bullshit, So back in the day, man,
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  Me, Corey Calvert, my partner, Big Smoke, we used to meet up in the morning
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  and just smoke, smoke, blunts and talk shit.
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  Cause like I was always up early. Like I was up early. I would drop my daughter off at school.
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  And so during the day, I just had free time.
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  So like they would come through in the morning, we'd be smoking and talking shit.
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  And then one day
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  smoke was like nigga i'm i'm i'm i'm
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  going live and we was like all right and so we just
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  started just cutting up and we did it once like the views went crazy and so
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  then like we was like fuck it let's do it again and then just like it kind of
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  became a thing and then shortly along the way i had met my brother javon whitlock Shout out to Javon.
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  Yeah, shout out to Javon. Shout out to Amy Rogers.
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  Because, yeah, shout out to, God, I don't want to do that to her.
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  The chick that used to be with the glasses with the short hair.
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  Oh, my God, what's her name? Oh, my God, that's so foul.
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  Because she was a part of it, too, and I don't want to. Oh, I know who you're
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  talking about, but I don't remember her name. My God, I can't remember her name.
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  Jesus. But, yeah, she also was a part of the short hair classes.
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  Oh, fuck, I can't remember her name. But so the show turned in.
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  Well, it turned into, like, an actual, like, real, like, podcast.
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  Like, we went from just, like, going live on Facebook in front of my apartment.
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  And then we started, like, we went inside. Smoke made a theme song.
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  Blunts and bullshit. shit. So he made the song and then, then Javon came on and then Amy came on.
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  And so then like every morning we would go on at 10, 10 30.
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  And then we'd go for about an hour, hour, hour and a half.
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  We'd just be smoking and just like before the show, we'd like go on Twitter
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  and see what was trending or just like random topics that were on in, in the news.
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  And then we just more or less like a riff and talk about everything that was going on.
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  And, you know, we had a good little run. Like at first it was me,
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  Corey, it was me, Corey, and Smoke.
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  And then it was me, Corey, Smoke, and Amy.
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  And then Smoke started getting busy with his life.
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  And then it became me, Javon, Corey, and Amy.
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  And then, you know, life happens, people move, et cetera, et cetera.
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  And then it just became a me and Javon thing.
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  But Fat Padma had already made the song. So, like, at that point,
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  it was just me and Javon rocking. So, like, every morning, 10.30, we was on it.
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  We was just on the topics.
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  We'd film at his dad's house, at his parents' house, at my house.
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  Like, if we had shows on the road, like, nigga, we was filming in the car.
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  Like, it just, yeah, the grind was crazy back then.
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  Like, we was putting it in. We was getting it in. Shout out to the whole Blunts and Bullshit family.
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  Without all of them, it couldn't have been what it ended up being. No, it was dope, bro.
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  I remember those were, that was the time, like I said, y'all had,
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  not only was you doing like the busted bullshit, but you were also doing like skits in between it.
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  Really kind of just, like, like just doing everything then with the whole.
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  Doing the Say It Loud show too, still putting like, putting other comedians on too and stuff.
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  Yeah, shout out to, yeah, Say It Loud comedy show.
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  Speaking of, like, yeah, I guess we can talk about that. So,
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  for the people that don't know, I guess kind of talk about myself.
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  So, I've been doing comedy now since like 2006
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  so the way i got
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  so that's how i told you guys how i started doing comedy my
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  my first open mic i've been in a
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  bunch of different like comedy groups shout out to my boy
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  leaf the first comedy group i was ever in was cowboys and cannabis it was me
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  a comedian named leaf aka troy goings oh shit what was the white dude oh my
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  god i'm forgetting people's names that's so So, so trash.
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  He was a, he, he, he was like a real cowboy, like a fucking redneck too, like a redneck cowboy.
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  Like, and he, it was me, him, and I'm trying to remember who the other fucking
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  part of the cannabis was, but it was, but we were in, in, in that group.
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  And then, so when like I first started doing comedy, Leaf was literally the
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  only one that was booking me.
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  So like every, every, everything that Leaf did, he was putting me on,
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  we actually did a live taping of that.
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  Well, not a live taping, but we recorded it.
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  So like, there's a Cowboys and Cannabis DVD out there that I'm on.
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  And then after being part of the Cowboys and Cannabis, I was still on the grind inside doing comedy.
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  Actually, excuse me, let me backtrack because big shout out to Sean Peabody.
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  I want to give a big shout out to Sean P. Sean P was somebody that I met at my first open mic.
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  Sean P. was literally one of the first comedy OGs that, like,
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  took me under his wing and, like, put me on the road, took me to open mics,
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  like, introduced me to comedians in the Bay Area.
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  After my first open mic where I did my first set, I met Sean P.
• 21:06
  And then, like, we went to Denny's or anything like that. I met D.D. Tyler.
• 21:11
  I met B.T. Kingsley, Ellis Rodriguez, E. Clark.
• 21:15
  I want to make sure I'm not forgetting nobody.
• 21:19
  So like Mikey Winfield. So like Sean P.
• 21:23
  Sean P. had a whole little crew called the True Grinders. Right.
• 21:27
  And so like we would literally we would hit like four or five open mics a night,
• 21:33
  bro. Like, so we'd go from Sac, we'd leave Sac and go to the Bay.
• 21:38
  And so like, we'd go to the Bay area and then out there at that time,
• 21:42
  Jesus, the Bay had like four or five open mics a night.
• 21:47
  So like literally we'd go down there and we'd do one show and like Sean P used to get at me.
• 21:54
  Like Sean P used to be like, I mean, that was luck.
• 21:57
  Like you was, I mean, you was lucky, but I mean, we're going to a new show.
• 22:01
  Like, I don't know if you, you, you, you, you, if you can do it again.
• 22:04
  And I used to be like, the fuck, nigga, who you talking to?
• 22:06
  Like, so like Sean would be getting at, at me.
• 22:08
  So like every open mic that we went to, he'd be like, man, you,
• 22:12
  you just lucky. Like, I don't know.
• 22:14
  Like, so I'd be literally going up there trying to kill.
• 22:17
  And like, it, it was all in, in good fun, but like, he would always be like, I don't know, bro.
• 22:23
  Like, can, can you follow him? Like, he's, he's funny. Like,
• 22:26
  I don't know. You just been.
• 22:27
  And so like, he would always do that. And so Hit the Bay, he started a whole
• 22:33
  like true grinder movement,
• 22:35
  which I want to say the true grinder movement was before I joined the Mikes,
• 22:40
  which the Mikes was another comedy group that I was part of.
• 22:44
  And a shout out to the Mikes, which was started by Michael O'Connell. Rest in peace.
• 22:50
  Michael O'Connell randomly messaged me one time saying that there was like,
• 22:54
  he had saw that there were a bunch of Mikes in the comedy scene,
• 22:58
  a bunch of different guys named Michael.
• 23:01
  He was like, we all have different styles of comedy. Like, how would you feel about being in a group?
• 23:06
  And I was like, fuck it. I'm like, sure. Like, you know, I'd been in a group
• 23:09
  before and it had worked out.
• 23:11
  So the group originally was Michael O'Connell, Mike Sinclair,
• 23:17
  Mike on the mic, who used to be at the Rivercats.
• 23:22
  Mike Betancourt. Am I missing? Mike Sinclair, me, Michael O'Connell,
• 23:28
  Mike on the mic. Who am I forgetting?
• 23:32
  Mike bencourt mike bencourt mike on
• 23:35
  the mic michael o'connell myself mike sinclair
• 23:38
  so that was the original five so we
• 23:42
  did our first we actually were on tv we did good day
• 23:44
  sacramento which was my first ever tv gig was on good day sacramento we had
• 23:50
  our first show at laughs unlimited shout out to laughs unlimited did the show
• 23:54
  the show was a success then mike on the mic started working more or at the Rivercats
• 24:01
  for the games. He was doing the mic on the mic thing.
• 24:05
  So then it was just me, Mike Sinclair, Michael O'Connell, and Mike Bencourt.
• 24:10
  And then the mics took off. We had t-shirts and the whole nine. It was pretty cool.
• 24:15
  It was a mic logo with a microphone that said the mics.
• 24:18
  Okay, dope, dope. Still got some t-shirts, too. Shout out to the guys.
• 24:25
  So from being a part of, like, beat on multiple teams and every team,
• 24:29
  like, you know, played like a different level,
• 24:30
  you know, from whatever your role may have been when you were doing the campus
• 24:33
  comedy to, like, now, like, being, like, I guess you say you be,
• 24:37
  like, the full force, like, behind the blunted bullshit.
• 24:41
  What are some of the things that you look back on and say, like,
• 24:44
  these are the important things that I learned from the benefits of,
• 24:48
  like, working with the crew, but then also, like, like the pros and cons?
• 24:53
  I would say, in my experience, the groups that I was a part of,
• 25:00
  there were different pros and cons.
• 25:02
  So just in a group dynamic, right, if we're just going to talk about working
• 25:08
  as a group, right, we'll start with the negative, right, because that's easier.
• 25:14
  So the negative is that it's a group project. it.
• 25:18
  So at the end of the day, everything has to be agreed upon or else you don't move forward.
• 25:26
  Right. So the bad thing about being in a group is you pick up other people's bad habits.
• 25:33
  Right. So like if one of us lacks ambition, that could literally spread amongst the group.
• 25:41
  Right. If if one of us has a bad attitude, that can spread amongst the group.
• 25:46
  So in a group dynamic.
• 25:50
  The moment it becomes about an individual, it ruins the group dynamic,
• 25:55
  because now it it makes the other people in the group feel like they're just
• 26:02
  peons and just at the end of the day, nobody wants to feel like they're a peon. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Like, because even in a group dynamic, right?
• 26:12
  Like if you're on the Warriors or the Bulls, like everybody knows who Michael
• 26:17
  Jordan is and who is Steph Curry.
• 26:18
  Right. But at the same time, don't make me feel like I don't contribute or just
• 26:24
  I'm somebody that's just tagging along.
• 26:26
  Like there are things that I contribute to the team that makes Michael Jordan
• 26:30
  or Steph Curry better because I'm on the team.
• 26:33
  So you have those moments like
• 26:36
  that or you have somebody who's not steph
• 26:39
  curry or michael jordan and they think they're steph curry and michael jordan
• 26:42
  so then it throws off the group dynamic because we as
• 26:45
  a group know who the who might be the
• 26:48
  star is yeah and now somebody else is trying
• 26:51
  to like he's just jordy pool yeah exactly you know i'm saying you're you're
• 26:55
  bro you're you're stop it we've been doing this before you i got here so it's
• 27:00
  one of those things where that's the negative about the group dynamic is is
• 27:04
  you pick up other people's bad habits either.
• 27:09
  Intentionally or in in intentionally now the pros about being in a group is
• 27:15
  that marketing a group is easier than marketing yourself right because the thing
• 27:21
  about marketing a group is that.
• 27:24
  When you're marketing yourself, the conversation stops if I don't like you, right? Yeah.
• 27:30
  So like the moment I don't like Michael Calvin Jr., this conversation's over.
• 27:35
  But if I'm talking about the mics, I'm part of a group dynamic.
• 27:40
  And then most people genuinely think of when they think of a group,
• 27:43
  they think of diversity.
• 27:45
  They think that there's literally like you guys are put together because all
• 27:49
  of you guys bring something different to the table.
• 27:52
  So what I found with booking and marketing, it was easier to book the mics in
• 28:00
  comedy clubs and theaters and stuff like that.
• 28:03
  It was easier to book the mics than, than it was to book my Michael Calvin jr.
• 28:07
  Because once we research Michael Calvin Jr., if there's anything,
• 28:11
  we can nitpick the things that we don't like about Michael Calvin Jr.
• 28:16
  But in a group dynamic, you know, first of all, I'm an individual representing a group.
• 28:22
  So just that within itself, you give the, it gives the impression that you're
• 28:28
  more business savvy, I would say.
• 28:30
  Because since you are part of a group, like I said before, the positive is because
• 28:35
  everything you're doing, you're in agreement on.
• 28:38
  So it's not like one of us is, is, is, is just freestyling by himself.
• 28:44
  You know what I'm saying? Or even if one of us is freestyling,
• 28:47
  it's because you're the best freestyler.
• 28:50
  So go, you know what I'm saying? So it's, everything is, or,
• 28:54
  or organized chaos would be the best way to put it.
• 28:58
  So that's the best part about being in a group is that you can hide yourself
• 29:03
  as an individual and focus on on selling the group aspect of it,
• 29:07
  because I can sell the mics.
• 29:09
  And I can highlight all the things the mics do and have done and not make it about my part.
• 29:16
  You know what I'm saying? So that to me was one of the things that I've learned,
• 29:21
  which has helped me with everything that I've done.
• 29:25
  Like as far as with the sale out comedy show, smoking joke show,
• 29:29
  all the other different open mics and stuff that I've had. And even like you
• 29:33
  said with Blunts and Bullshit, like I've learned how to work as a team and make
• 29:38
  it about the team and not necessarily about my individual preferences.
• 29:44
  Yeah, because I think when you're doing things like that, like you're marketing,
• 29:46
  like you say, you're marketing like the mics or marketing smoking jokes.
• 29:51
  What you're really, what you're doing is you're creating a brand with every group.
• 29:54
  And when you do that, like when you're creating a brand, you
• 29:57
  don't approach it from the same point like how you say like booking yourself because
• 30:00
  you're doing from like a very selfish or selfless standpoint
• 30:03
  whereas but like with your brand you're building up a business
• 30:06
  so you have to make business decisions and that's
• 30:09
  the most important part of like being in the entertainment business
• 30:12
  yes is the business aspect of it and learning it to some capacity to where like
• 30:17
  you know where you could you could fit into that realm because as a comedian
• 30:20
  you have to understand just how important and being able to conduct yourself
• 30:25
  in a professional way will help get you so far ahead in this game. Oh yeah, definitely.
• 30:32
  Like I agree with that a thousand percent, which is also when you're thinking
• 30:38
  about the team dynamic, you tend to avoid doing personal things that affect the group, right?
• 30:44
  Like, so here's the weird thing about comedy, right?
• 30:48
  Is that you get into the business because, you know, it's a free speech thing,
• 30:51
  But you can find yourself putting yourself in a position where you're not saying
• 30:58
  certain things because you're not trying to, you know,
• 31:01
  ruffle any feathers or razzle-dazzle anybody,
• 31:04
  et cetera, et cetera. But, you know.
• 31:07
  I feel that that's where the challenge is, is that, no, you got to find a way
• 31:13
  to say what you're trying to say.
• 31:14
  Just your problem is your choice of words at that moment.
• 31:19
  You're avoiding the challenge that comes with creating something that comes with that. Yeah.
• 31:24
  And, and nah, it's not about not say that it's say that you just got to find,
• 31:29
  you just got to find your way to say that.
• 31:31
  And, like, for example, and shout out to Mario Hodge, because he posted something
• 31:38
  about this the other day.
• 31:40
  He was talking about how when Black comics, like, go extra hard in front of
• 31:46
  white people, like, and then you get just, like, nigga, nigga,
• 31:48
  nigga, all in front of white people, and it's down to third.
• 31:50
  And then, like, that's annoying.
• 31:52
  And then I've also seen Black people pump fake in front of the white people,
• 31:56
  because they, like, like, now, all of a sudden, you don't want to do it.
• 32:00
  You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what you've been doing.
• 32:03
  So now you get to the point where now it's time and now you pump faking.
• 32:06
  So in my opinion, I feel that's the comedy grind, right?
• 32:11
  Is you learn how to be yourself in all environments or you avoid the challenge
• 32:17
  because in every different open mic and in every different comedy book and it
• 32:22
  has its own set of challenges.
• 32:24
  So what most comics end up doing is you fall into your comfort zone and you
• 32:29
  only go to like these type of rooms that have this type of environment or that
• 32:32
  type of environment where the challenge is being to go anywhere and do your thing. So.
• 32:41
  The benefit of being in a group is that that group will normally put you in
• 32:47
  places where, as an individual, you might not have been able to get to.
• 32:51
  So working with the mics, like, we did a show, Jesus Christ,
• 32:57
  it was in the middle of nowhere up north, like, past Auburn or something.
• 33:01
  It was a theater show. I want to say we only had, like, 20 people or some shit
• 33:04
  that showed up, but we still did it, and they breaded us out.
• 33:08
  It was a pretty good payday. Shout out to wherever that place was.
• 33:13
  And but it was all you know all white people
• 33:16
  we're in the middle of nowhere and just i've never
• 33:19
  felt the need to tailor my comedy to any individual
• 33:22
  crowd like yeah as a comic you might in the
• 33:26
  flow of it create some things you know
• 33:28
  but i'm not pulling back on nothing like
• 33:32
  i've i've crafted this in a way that it should
• 33:35
  work everywhere and and that comes from being
• 33:38
  in a group where you know different because
• 33:42
  when you're in a group everybody is supposed to be
• 33:45
  helping with the bookings so the people that
• 33:48
  might like a buddy that make that call for the booking
• 33:51
  might not have been somebody that would have been fucking with me you
• 33:54
  know i'm saying but now i gotta make sure that in a
• 33:57
  group dynamic i'm not throwing this whole thing off yeah and
• 34:00
  then also you don't want to become like the guy
• 34:03
  you know i'm saying like i'm not trying to be the black guy
• 34:06
  yeah in in the group like i'm not trying to be the weed guy like oh when he
• 34:11
  comes up here we go you know so and that's what the that's what the journey
• 34:17
  with your writing is that you know which again if you want to be the guy that's
• 34:22
  your thing like i i don't knock it but i've always looked at,
• 34:27
  developing the craft so wherever i go i can do this yeah and i'm not gonna and i'm not,
• 34:34
  watering it down nor am i blackening it up you know what i'm saying like.
• 34:41
  Like i'm a nigga 24 7 so being a nigga
• 34:44
  around some niggas i ain't nothing new and so it's not
• 34:47
  like i'm uncomfortable or being watered down about it just like when i'm in
• 34:51
  situations where there's not a lot of niggas like it's not like all of a sudden
• 34:55
  i don't know how to conduct myself or use a vocabulary that these people can't
• 35:00
  relate to or if i feel like like, niggin' it up in front of these people. Like, whatever.
• 35:07
  No, I remember talking about just, like, just going to different rooms and just
• 35:12
  being funny, funny, funny, funny. Like, going back to Andre Bailey.
• 35:15
  Like, the first time I went to touch a class, I did all right.
• 35:19
  But, yeah, Andre Bailey, he just pulled me to the side. He's like,
• 35:21
  yo, bro, just people is people.
• 35:23
  He's like, just make him laugh and shit. At the end of the day,
• 35:25
  just make him fucking laugh and shit, bro. Yeah. Like, that's...
• 35:31
  See, people don't get it. And when I do interviews like this,
• 35:35
  like I always try to point to this out, like,
• 35:38
  doing like black audiences have a higher
• 35:41
  standard for comedy than most crowds
• 35:44
  because most black people only relate
• 35:47
  comedy to their favorite comedian
• 35:50
  and in most cases black people are literally comparing you to a fucking legend
• 35:55
  you know what i'm saying like their favorite is a kevin hart or like bernie
• 35:59
  mack dave chapelle dion cole like they're literally comparing you to to somebody
• 36:05
  who in their field, they're the fucking shit.
• 36:08
  And here you are, somebody I've never saw before. I had to pay $20 to get in this bitch. Nigga, go.
• 36:17
  Like, I ain't trying to see all the dancing and all that. Nigga,
• 36:20
  I dance better than that.
• 36:21
  Nigga, I got that outfit. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 36:24
  So, like, in general, like, black out and then, you know, black people in general,
• 36:28
  they got to work harder to get their money.
• 36:30
  And all the stuff we deal with is just being black. So, like,
• 36:32
  there's that part of it. So when it comes to now, I'm supposed to just give
• 36:37
  you some laughs, nigga. Like, nah, nigga, you got to get this.
• 36:41
  Ain't no ain't no giveaway laughs in a black audience.
• 36:45
  Like, you got to bring that. You got to bring that work. Well,
• 36:48
  but again, when you look at it from that perspective, right?
• 36:52
  Because I'm a fan of comedy. I've been to comedy shows like before I was doing
• 36:57
  comedy, like, bro, I'm judging you to the highest scale, whereas anybody else,
• 37:03
  I'm not doing that with them.
• 37:04
  So literally my bar for them is lower. And in my experience,
• 37:10
  and this is no disrespect to white crowds or anything like that,
• 37:13
  but just they're sometimes you're going to deal with audiences that their only
• 37:19
  engagement with a black person is coming to see their favorite performers.
• 37:24
  So that's his, this is literally their moment where they can say they have a
• 37:29
  black friend, you know what I'm saying?
• 37:30
  So when you look at it from that perspective, the bar is a bit lower.
• 37:35
  They've never, they've never saw that dance, you know, they don't, they don't.
• 37:40
  They're trying to put together, like, what does it mean? Like,
• 37:44
  does the shirt mean something? Does the pants mean something?
• 37:46
  There's a deeper meaning.
• 37:47
  Yeah, like, everything is deeper when just, like, nah, bro, these are just dance.
• 37:53
  Yeah, this is just, this was the outfit I put on all the way here.
• 37:57
  Like, it's not that deep. Whereas with, you know, with black people,
• 38:01
  nigga, I got all that, nigga. And mine is better.
• 38:05
  So, there's that. that but i i love it like which
• 38:08
  is why a great show gives you a good
• 38:11
  mix of everybody you you got people that have
• 38:14
  high standards of comedy you have people that are that might be easier to entertain
• 38:18
  so that's what makes a good crowd how do you take that approach and apply it
• 38:24
  to when you're doing the say loud comedy well let's go back to like how the
• 38:27
  say loud comedy show even and like got started. Aha, I bet.
• 38:32
  So shout out to Jennifer Canfield, owner of Jennifer Canfield and her family,
• 38:38
  Laura and Skip, owners of Laughs Unlimited.
• 38:43
  So rest in peace to TV Entertainment, my homegirl, Tavena Crocker.
• 38:48
  So my homegirl, Tavena, she had a brother that was trying to do comedy.
• 38:54
  God, why can I not think of his name? I'm forgetting so many people's names, bro. That's so trash.
• 38:59
  But her brother was trying to do comedy. And I had already kind of had my foot in the game.
• 39:06
  So she put her first show together at Tommy T's. So we did a show at Tommy T's out there.
• 39:12
  Show was a success, packed out the whole nine.
• 39:16
  So fast forward to she wants to do it again at Labs Unlimited.
• 39:21
  So, excuse me, she invites me to have a mixer.
• 39:25
  With the owner with the owner so like they're having drinks etc etc so we get
• 39:30
  to meet the owner to tvs kind of telling her about how she wants the show to
• 39:34
  run etc etc introduce me i'll be the host first time i make jennifer you know
• 39:40
  etc etc show date is on the date that the show's on so boom,
• 39:45
  on the day of the show the show starts at eight i get to laughs at like seven
• 39:49
  though like i get to laugh something limited at like seven o'clock and when
• 39:53
  i get there like the club is like kind And like, I don't really see anybody.
• 39:57
  So just, I walk in and I just kind of sit down.
• 39:59
  I got my material, just kind of writing.
• 40:02
  And then Jen walks in and I remember her from the mixer. And I'm like,
• 40:06
  hey, excuse me. I was like, I'm sorry.
• 40:08
  You remember me i'll be the host for
• 40:11
  tonight and she's like yeah and i was like so curious
• 40:14
  like is there any like drink specials or any
• 40:17
  like announcements you want me to make while i'm on on on
• 40:21
  stage and she like double looks
• 40:23
  at me and she's like are you serious and i
• 40:26
  was like yeah and she
• 40:30
  was like she she was like you might be my
• 40:33
  favorite host and you and you you don't even even fucking work
• 40:35
  here and i'm still and then you know
• 40:38
  jen like she's real sarcastic like she's tall
• 40:41
  like she's thick so like this whole conversation i'm just kind of like i'm like
• 40:45
  am i fucking up right now i was like am i in trouble like i feel like i feel
• 40:51
  like i'm doing the good thing right here right so she's she's like she's like
• 40:56
  yeah actually you know there's There's a show coming up, blah,
• 40:58
  blah, blah, blah. So I get that.
• 41:01
  And so shout out to TV. We do the show.
• 41:05
  Show goes well. I have a great set. At the end of the night,
• 41:08
  she books me to host at the club.
• 41:12
  Not that weekend, but for a future date.
• 41:15
  So that was when I got my first weekend at Labs.
• 41:19
  So the Say About Comedy show comes about when I had brought a cat.
• 41:23
  I brought a cat. Shout out to Steve Fury. I was working at Laughs and I brought
• 41:28
  Steve Fury to do a guest set at Laughs Unlimited because I was telling him,
• 41:33
  I was like, bro, I'm hosting and I think that I could get you in.
• 41:38
  You know what I'm saying? I'm doing pretty well. So I just come up and do a guest set.
• 41:43
  So he comes, does a guest set, fucking kills it.
• 41:46
  Steve Fury, funny comic, you know what I'm saying, does his thing. Still doing his thing.
• 41:52
  So he kills it. Jen books him.
• 41:55
  Couple months later down the line me and her having a like conversation after
• 42:00
  like a comedy competition And she's talking about how like some of the competitions
• 42:04
  don't produce people that work at the club She's like I've been doing these
• 42:08
  competitions and just sometimes people win the competition,
• 42:11
  but they don't fit the weekend club setting and.
• 42:15
  She was like and then sometimes comics you you guys refer your friends Which
• 42:20
  I get it like if you're working at a club Why not hook your, your friends up?
• 42:25
  And she was saying that, but the problem is that you guys lose credibility with
• 42:29
  me when you book people, when you send me people that aren't funny and like,
• 42:33
  but that's your, your, your, your friend.
• 42:36
  But at the same time, it changes my opinion on your opinion of funny because
• 42:42
  you sent me somebody who's not funny.
• 42:43
  So now I can't necessarily trust the referral. referral.
• 42:47
  So like, as we're kicking around, she just kind of spit, spit balling the idea.
• 42:52
  And I was like, well, what if I had a comedy show that was for people that didn't
• 42:55
  work at that was specifically for people that didn't work at the club,
• 42:59
  but it wasn't like a competition.
• 43:02
  It was more or less like an audition show.
• 43:04
  And she was like, all right. She was like, sure. I'll give you a date,
• 43:07
  blah, blah, blah. She gives me a date nights over. I go home.
• 43:10
  She calls me the next morning and is like, your idea kept me up.
• 43:15
  And she was like, Cause I feel like you would really have something that,
• 43:18
  that could work if you just, if you could, like, if you were open to some things
• 43:23
  that I won't want to talk to you about.
• 43:24
  So, bro, we had about a two hour conversation about from a club owner's perspective,
• 43:30
  like what it takes to be successful, like what, what on their end they need
• 43:35
  to see as far as revenue turnout, et cetera, et cetera.
• 43:39
  Marketing ideas, blah, blah, blah. So I get off the phone with her,
• 43:43
  call Mikey Winfield. Shout out to Mikey Winfield. Oh, yeah.
• 43:46
  Another comedy OG big bro.
• 43:50
  So I call Mikey and I tell Mikey, I'm like, hey, bro, like Jen's letting me do a show.
• 43:57
  Like, what should I do to make this like show pop?
• 44:01
  And Mikey's like, that's dope.
• 44:04
  He's like, that's dope. He's like, congratulations, bro. So then literally I
• 44:09
  get another two hour conversation where Mikey is literally just giving me the business.
• 44:15
  Mikey's like, bro, you got to understand that everything is a representation of you.
• 44:20
  If the toilets don't work, that's a representation of you because it was Mike's
• 44:24
  show that we went to and the toilets didn't work.
• 44:26
  If the comics are making rape jokes nigga
• 44:29
  that was your show where they were making those creepy jokes
• 44:33
  excuse me if the flyer's trash it's your like it's your flyer that's trash so
• 44:38
  mike taught me that everything about the show is a representation of you and
• 44:44
  you have to think about that when you're putting it out there and not only that
• 44:48
  he's he mentioned how nine times times out of 10,
• 44:52
  I'm going to be doing a show where the people aren't going to know the comics that I have on the show.
• 44:58
  So to get around that, I had to have something that was giving back to the crowd,
• 45:04
  like something that made them feel like they were getting something out of going
• 45:07
  to the show to see some comics that they've never, never heard.
• 45:12
  Before. Yeah. So like Mikey was telling me all, all that and just like,
• 45:17
  so boom, get off the phone.
• 45:21
  With Mikey and then it was just like to the drawing board. So like I was coming
• 45:25
  up with a bunch of different ideas, but prior to getting the show at laughs,
• 45:30
  shout out to Terrence and.
• 45:33
  Man, Brother Given. They had an open mic that I won, and I became the host,
• 45:39
  and I was hosting it in downtown Sac, in Tropicana.
• 45:43
  I think that's what it was called, whatever.
• 45:45
  So prior to that, I was doing an open mic comedy competition.
• 45:50
  Saul Trujillo won the competition at that one that I had. Shout out to Saul. Oh, yeah.
• 45:55
  So fast forward to, I get the show at laughs.
• 45:59
  Howard is already making my flyers because we were doing that thing.
• 46:04
  And so I was trying to think of a name for the comedy show and just,
• 46:08
  you know, different things kept coming to me.
• 46:11
  And then just, I had had an interesting set a couple of weeks prior to that with another comic.
• 46:18
  And like in this particular situation, we were doing a show in Folsom and we were smoking a blunt.
• 46:24
  And this nigga was talking to me about how he felt like he should have known
• 46:29
  that the show was going to be kind of weird because I was on the show and I
• 46:34
  was like trying to get where the nigga was going with what he was saying.
• 46:38
  And he just said that I wasn't a black comic. This nigga saying this shit took him out of you.
• 46:42
  And he was just saying, well, like, you're not like a black comic.
• 46:45
  I was thinking to myself, I'm looking at this nigga. I'm like,
• 46:47
  nigga, I'm going to hit you in your face right now.
• 46:50
  But so we're smoking and whatever and I'm just listening to what he's saying and just,
• 46:55
  long story short that particular night I had a better set than him and he had
• 47:00
  to follow it and that particular night he had a rough night,
• 47:03
  so at that particular time I'm thinking of a name for the comedy show I'm like
• 47:06
  trying to think of something so like James Brown starts playing like randomly
• 47:11
  it was when the James Brown movie was out and so it was just say it loud I'm
• 47:17
  back and I'm proud say it loud.
• 47:20
  And I was just like, boom, like say it loud.
• 47:24
  So in essence, it's say it loud. I'm black. I'm proud. Yeah.
• 47:29
  But just say it out. So it was subtle.
• 47:35
  I said, niggas, welcome. Say it loud.
• 47:39
  And so I was, to this date, it was going on 11 years ago. My first show,
• 47:43
  Marcus Miles, Cheryl the Soccer Mom, Anderson.
• 47:48
  Oh, God, Cheryl the Soccer Mom. Carlos Rodriguez.
• 47:52
  Mars Parker. Shout out to Mars Parker. It was on my first ever Say It Loud comedy show.
• 47:58
  And yeah, my first show was in August, and we was on and popping.
• 48:03
  And so, yeah, the first comedians that were to ever get booked at Loud's Unlimited
• 48:08
  for a paid weekend is Chris Riggins.
• 48:11
  Chris Riggins, Des Henderson, and Eric Murphy were on the third ever Say It
• 48:18
  Loud comedy show that I ever had.
• 48:19
  And all three of them got passed on that show.
• 48:23
  And Chris Riggins is still doing comedy. I'm not sure. Des, shout out to Des.
• 48:30
  I'm not sure what Eric Murphy's still doing right now, but anybody who's ever
• 48:34
  saw Chris Riggins, he's a beast and just...
• 48:38
  Every time i see chris's success like to me i'm i'm
• 48:41
  like it's not it's nothing new to me because like
• 48:43
  i've i've known since i saw the guy like nah chris is
• 48:47
  a beast like chris riggins is a monster so shout
• 48:50
  out to chris like for real for real no yeah me and chris was in a actually we
• 48:53
  was in a movie together no last year about the year before stuff like that it
• 48:57
  was funny it was a movie about like stand-up comedy that's right that's right
• 49:01
  i was just playing myself just performing comedy that he's up like he roasts
• 49:05
  me a little bit like that but he was playing the host of the
• 49:08
  of the comedy competition. Shout out. Yeah.
• 49:10
  Hey, shout out to the gang, man. Shout out to Chris Riggins, man. Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:16
  Just talk to him. I say, yeah, Chris do early big things. That was,
• 49:19
  that's what's up. Good to see. I don't care.
• 49:21
  Like I'm, I'm telling him all like every chance I get, if he's available,
• 49:26
  I try to have him when I do the anniversary show in August.
• 49:30
  Like I, I always try to have him be the headliner because number one,
• 49:35
  I feel like without him, I wouldn't have had the show that I had because he
• 49:40
  was literally the first one Jen ever picked from a sale-out comedy show was Chris Riggins.
• 49:46
  So, like, and the whole point of my show was to help comics get paid weekends.
• 49:51
  So just, like, I don't want to, just, yeah. Like, I just, yeah.
• 49:57
  Every time Chris does something, it's not a surprise to me.
• 50:01
  It's literally like, bro, you been that guy.
• 50:04
  And, like, ever since I first saw it, And just like, I'm happy to see more people
• 50:10
  see the talent that he has.
• 50:12
  Cause yeah. Like, so anytime I get the anniversary show and,
• 50:17
  and if he's available to headline, he's always who I got closing it.
• 50:21
  And then not only that, not only is he part of the success of the show,
• 50:27
  like he's a beast. So, like, every time he's coming, like, it's not like you're
• 50:31
  gonna get the same jokes.
• 50:32
  He got a whole new get-down, and it's always fire. So, shout-out to the guy.
• 50:37
  Well, yeah, shout-out to Chris. And so...
• 50:40
  You've been doing it for how long again? What was it? You said by like 11 years or 2006, bro. Yeah.
• 50:47
  18 years, 18 years. Yes, sir. So that's like one of the, like one of the longest
• 50:52
  running like comedy shows.
• 50:54
  Oh no. The sale out comedy show is going on. This year will be,
• 50:57
  this year will be 11 years.
• 50:58
  Yeah. So I mean, yeah, but still, yeah, that's still one of the longest running
• 51:01
  comedy shows just around the Sacramento that I can remember. Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:08
  Touch of Class has been the only thing that's been going longer than the Say It Loud comedy show.
• 51:12
  Yeah, Touch of Class is the institution, though. That's where it teaches.
• 51:16
  Every comedian I've had on this show, it always comes back to just the Touch of Class.
• 51:21
  It's just the type of institution that it is for comedians.
• 51:26
  Man, bro, let me tell you about the Touch of Class, man. Shout out to B.T. Kingley, man.
• 51:30
  B.T. Kingley was the first ever creator of the Grown and Sexy Comedy Night.
• 51:36
  And like man when bt was
• 51:39
  the host let me tell you it was you know
• 51:42
  that prime documentary where they were talking about how lit
• 51:45
  it was at the little chocolate sundaes or whatever they were
• 51:47
  doing thing bro bt had that popping in
• 51:50
  sack like literally the touch of
• 51:53
  class would be like 100 plus every sunday
• 51:57
  bad ones homie like some of the
• 51:59
  baddest females you done ever seen like in and like
• 52:03
  everybody like it was literally like grown and
• 52:05
  sexy like you had to come fitted like what no coming like
• 52:09
  how some people just come to roll to the cut like nah bruh not
• 52:12
  on that night like you fuck around and not be dressed right
• 52:15
  like you you don't even want to get on stage because everybody looking so
• 52:18
  bt would have that thing popping
• 52:21
  like this 2006 seven ish like
• 52:24
  and bt was like bt kingsley
• 52:28
  was the nigga like for real for real like he
• 52:30
  had that thing popping and so like not only
• 52:33
  that bt's a beast so he was on stage dropping fire and then bringing niggas
• 52:40
  up so fuck around and not be even if you couldn't ride the wave and you got
• 52:46
  drowned shout out to dj rip one them niggas were dropping bombs when you you
• 52:51
  was on stage and be like Like,
• 52:52
  niggas started bombing you while you was on there. Oh, man.
• 52:57
  Niggas would turn your mic off and have a nigga come get you. Bruh, it was real life.
• 53:02
  Night at the Apollo, like, nigga, you get roasted.
• 53:06
  And then not only that, BT gonna get on stage and then get on you for bombing.
• 53:11
  And then he might do another five, ten minutes of nigga super duper fire and
• 53:17
  then bring the next nigga up. So, like, bruh.
• 53:19
  So, literally, all night, you could fuck around and, like, I done seen cats
• 53:23
  be like, nah, I ain't going up. I ain't going up.
• 53:27
  I've went there on nights and seen stuff and been like, nah,
• 53:30
  I don't feel like I got the glow tonight.
• 53:34
  So i didn't see plenty of cat turned fade down
• 53:38
  so you know what i'm saying when it came to the to the touch back
• 53:40
  then and then andre bailey became
• 53:44
  the host and kept it going and then
• 53:47
  at that time that's when tristan started nutty monday shout out to
• 53:49
  tristan johnson and then yeah man like
• 53:53
  i'm like back in my early grinding days like to touch a class on sunday and
• 53:57
  then when trist started nutty mondays like bro literally sunday monday you had
• 54:02
  to bring your a game brother like you had to bring your a game and not just
• 54:06
  a game as far as comedy you better be dressed right or you're gonna get your
• 54:09
  feelings hurt because they're gonna talk about your outfit too,
• 54:12
  it was it was black comedy but we we talking about ashy fingers i'm talking
• 54:19
  about last year's fits like oh yeah bro you was getting it and but it was all
• 54:24
  it was all love man it was all love so So, like, you looked forward to it, bro.
• 54:29
  Like, you looked forward to it. You know you was going to get,
• 54:32
  you know you was going to become, like, it's just going to make you a better comedian. Heck, yeah.
• 54:36
  It was. But just not only that, like, bro, like, Cats was coming through.
• 54:41
  Like, when, like, the Rodney Perrys, the, the, the, the.
• 54:46
  Like, all of the people, like, before they became big, like,
• 54:49
  Tiffany Haddish, like, niggas was coming through there to the touch.
• 54:52
  Like, BT was bringing people, like, you know what I'm saying?
• 54:55
  So, like, it was a bunch of little, like, big name, like, people that are big
• 55:01
  names now that slid through to the touch.
• 55:03
  Like, hell, BT was instrumental in having the whole Kevin Hart,
• 55:08
  Heart of the City thing at the touch of class when that thing happened.
• 55:12
  And so, you know, like BT put on for the city and he did all of it at the Touch of Class.
• 55:18
  So a lot of things that are still going now, he was the foundation for that.
• 55:23
  So even when I got my chance to host the Touch of Class, like shot out to Beltroy,
• 55:31
  Tia, the whole Touch of Class family.
• 55:33
  You know what I'm saying? Like when I had my opportunity to host,
• 55:36
  I did my best to try to bring back the BT style.
• 55:39
  All like i was clowning niggas like
• 55:42
  if niggas wasn't funny i was talking about them like it was
• 55:45
  like yeah so yeah i was a little aggressive with
• 55:48
  my well in today's comedy environment what i
• 55:51
  was doing was a little aggressive but at the end of the day like if you're a
• 55:55
  comic you you get it like i'm having fun with you i'm not belittling you i'm
• 56:00
  not bullying you it's all these are just chucks so and that was a comedy environment
• 56:05
  i grew up in so shout out to sean p like i grew up with, are you sure you can follow him?
• 56:11
  Like, I don't know, bro. I mean, you've been lucky lately.
• 56:14
  I've done it to you.
• 56:19
  Shit. I do it to Javon all the time. No matter where we go, I'm like,
• 56:25
  bruh. I'm like, I don't know, my nigga.
• 56:29
  No, bruh, you've been lucky lately.
• 56:32
  He'd be like, alright, nigga. So yeah, shout out to the gang,
• 56:35
  man. Yeah, and one thing I did notice, because like BT, he's out there in LA,
• 56:39
  he's hosted like Chocolate Sundays.
• 56:41
  And there is something that I noticed just like, because I went down to LA last
• 56:45
  year. And he's in the Sprite commercial. In the Sprite commercial, yeah.
• 56:49
  But there's just something about like, I don't know, like there's like something
• 56:52
  in the waters out here, like, especially like you said, during that time,
• 56:55
  that just bred a lot of beast.
• 56:58
  A lot of beast that like came for that period of time. Because like,
• 57:02
  not even like just for a period, but like.
• 57:04
  And in SAC, you're talking in like the Bay Area, you're talking like,
• 57:07
  you know, Mario Hodges. We're talking about like, you know, the Rico,
• 57:10
  the Grays. We're talking about the Reginas.
• 57:12
  We're talking about, like you say, Tristan. We're talking about Lance Woods.
• 57:15
  We're talking about Mikey Winfields. All these comedians that Carlos Rodriguez,
• 57:19
  all these comedians that are something about, there's something about out here that just.
• 57:23
  Anthony K. Anthony K. Like all these things that you're talking about,
• 57:26
  just how the way the times were, you could just definitely see. Insane wings.
• 57:30
  Insane wings. But yeah, you see just how a bunch of like there's a there's a
• 57:34
  strong community of comedians.
• 57:35
  I like my father is really out here. Just fucking funny.
• 57:39
  Yeah, I actually got I got that one time when I was in.
• 57:43
  I did a show in Denver and one of the cats I did a show with.
• 57:48
  He was I did the show. I had a guy fucking killed it that night, too.
• 57:53
  And afterwards he was like, so Sacramento.
• 57:56
  He was like, yeah, he was like, do you know Lance? So I was like,
• 58:00
  yeah, I know Lance. And he was like, yeah.
• 58:02
  He was like, wait. He was like, there's another guy out of there.
• 58:06
  I was like, Kyrie Shabazz. And he was like.
• 58:08
  Kyrie's the other one too, yeah. He was like, Kyrie's from SAC?
• 58:11
  I was like, yeah. He was like, no. But he was like, he has an afro.
• 58:15
  And I was like, Mikey Winfield.
• 58:16
  And he was like, yeah. He was like, yeah. He was like, man.
• 58:20
  He was like, you Sacramento guys are pretty good. And I was like, damn.
• 58:26
  I was like, that nigga, that's a murderer's row right there.
• 58:29
  They're Mikey, Lance, Kyrie, like, yeah, man, yeah.
• 58:33
  Happy to be mentioned in any time those three get mentioned because,
• 58:37
  like, we all have the people that we're chasing.
• 58:39
  So, like, in terms of, like, my Sacramento icons or people, like,
• 58:44
  I look up to, Lance, well, Mikey Winfield, well, in no particular order,
• 58:49
  Mikey Winfield, Lance, with Kyrie, Shabazz, because, like, they doing it.
• 58:53
  They doing it, doing it. Shout out to all three of those guys.
• 58:56
  It's definitely the Sacramento Kings for sure right there. For sure, for sure.
• 59:01
  But then even the, cause she said like they had kept it hard for a bit,
• 59:04
  the heart of the city out here, the touch of class.
• 59:07
  But there's just, I don't know. Oh, and shout out to, you know,
• 59:09
  I can't say Lance and not say Tony Roberts.
• 59:12
  Like, man, shit, shout out to Tony Roberts, one of the greatest motherfuckers
• 59:14
  to ever get on the stage. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 59:16
  Like, yeah, Tony Roberts, legend. Make sure you see Tony Roberts live.
• 59:20
  Shit, I'm not, let me not fucking, yeah.
• 59:25
  Monster. Sorry. Sorry. I looked right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 59:27
  Since we mentioning people, yeah. Tony Roberts, beast.
• 59:30
  Yeah. No, it's definitely, like I said, we're definitely fortunate.
• 59:33
  And sometimes, say, the one, like, we was talking about, like,
• 59:35
  applying, like, putting that work and stuff like that.
• 59:37
  Like, one of the things that I think that I took away, like,
• 59:41
  not taking advantage of is just understanding the fact that we are lucky to
• 59:47
  be the president of so many communities where we could just soak up the type of game to where,
• 59:50
  like, going back to how you were saying to me, like, with the Mike Epps situation,
• 59:54
  like, this is the person who, like, clicked, right?
• 59:56
  Like, oh, this made me want to do it. Like, we got them in abundance out here
• 1:00:00
  compared to, like, other, unless you're talking about L.A., New York.
• 1:00:04
  Okay, Ben. On that note, since we're talking about soccer mental work ethic,
• 1:00:09
  the three people I mentioned, right, Kyrie, Lance,
• 1:00:14
  and Mikey Winfield, as a person who has like saw their arc, right,
• 1:00:20
  saw when they were, you know, doing the regular open mics like the rest of like all comics.
• 1:00:25
  And then like now they're on tours, they're in theaters, they're in arenas,
• 1:00:29
  they're in movies, they're, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:31
  Opening for big names and are big names within themselves.
• 1:00:36
  So like, people don't know this, like, unless you saw it.
• 1:00:41
  I've saw Lance Woods stand by the door at the end of the night and take everybody's
• 1:00:48
  cell phone and ask them to follow him on Instagram.
• 1:00:51
  Like every show, every open mic, Lance would be right there at the end of the
• 1:00:57
  night, taking people's phones, typing it in, follow me, follow me,
• 1:01:00
  follow me, follow me, follow me, boom, follow me, follow me, boom, boom, boom.
• 1:01:03
  So like that type
• 1:01:07
  of dedication and you see where a person's success
• 1:01:10
  is like bro like i saw lance do
• 1:01:13
  that with my own eyes and i used to be a be i'd be
• 1:01:16
  like nigga i am not doing that like that is fucking crazy like you're gonna
• 1:01:19
  fucking like and just to see where he's at with his followers and with his grind
• 1:01:24
  and his ability to pack out shows like bro discipline and that's something you
• 1:01:29
  can learn from mikey winfield every Every time Mikey Winfield comes out to an open mic,
• 1:01:35
  Mikey Winfield has a notepad and a pencil and a pen.
• 1:01:39
  And Mikey Winfield is literally writing until the time he gets to,
• 1:01:43
  until he gets to, to the stage, he is writing, writing, writing, writing, writing.
• 1:01:48
  He'll entertain you, be polite, the whole shit. And then he's going to get right
• 1:01:52
  back into his groove of writing.
• 1:01:54
  And then he's going to get on stage and he's going to perform some of the most.
• 1:02:00
  Master crafted comedy you are ever going to fucking see.
• 1:02:04
  Like I say it all the time. Like Mikey Winfield is a fucking,
• 1:02:07
  he's like a comedy sensei because it's going to be, you never know where it's
• 1:02:14
  going to go, but it's going to be funny because Mikey can get gutter.
• 1:02:17
  He can get like, he can get clean, like just everything about Mikey's style is just perfection.
• 1:02:24
  So, and just to see somebody who, even when I first started doing comedy,
• 1:02:29
  he had already he had had a certain level of
• 1:02:32
  success like one time me and javon were in vegas and
• 1:02:35
  we just randomly saw mikey winfield on a
• 1:02:38
  fucking on one of the marquees on a vegas on
• 1:02:41
  one of them vegas casino things and we're like oh he's really that nigga like
• 1:02:47
  like what the like damn like and just you would never know because he's so polite
• 1:02:54
  he's so cordial he's so respectful so just like Like,
• 1:02:58
  to see his grind and see his success,
• 1:03:02
  it's one of them things where, like, bro, when you see it up close, you're not surprised.
• 1:03:05
  Like, y'all are late to the party. Like, some of us have seen it firsthand.
• 1:03:12
  Kyrie Shabazz, like, man, his writing is fucking crazy. Crazy.
• 1:03:19
  And like, I remember there was a time and this is no knock,
• 1:03:22
  but just there was a time where people were saying that they felt he was a joke
• 1:03:26
  thief because he was doing, you know, how you can remix a joke or just your
• 1:03:31
  perspective on a joke is, is the same as something. Like if,
• 1:03:34
  if you're making a fat joke, right.
• 1:03:36
  Some of what you're going to touch on, somebody's heard before,
• 1:03:39
  but just, you might've, you might've got to the same destination,
• 1:03:45
  just took a different route.
• 1:03:46
  Right. So like at that time, he was getting hit with that, man,
• 1:03:52
  his fucking writing now you would never, you would never in your life confuse
• 1:03:57
  him for being somebody else.
• 1:03:58
  And his writing is so fucking phenomenal.
• 1:04:01
  If you've ever gone to like, watch his, go to his Instagram page and watch his clips.
• 1:04:06
  Like, bro, them jokes are, are mastercrafted. Like for real,
• 1:04:11
  for real. So again, sensei cut on the shit.
• 1:04:14
  Same thing with Lance.
• 1:04:17
  Like these dudes are masterful with those words. Like.
• 1:04:23
  And I'm not knocking nobody who I may not be mentioning, because I know how niggas get in a feeling.
• 1:04:27
  But I'm just saying that as far as people who are from Sacramento,
• 1:04:31
  people that rep Sacramento or are from Sacramento, like in terms of the success
• 1:04:36
  that they have being a guy from Sacramento, those are the three people that I'm like, all right,
• 1:04:41
  that's the beaten path that you're trying to follow.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah, definitely would say, like, let's say going back to how you're saying
• 1:04:49
  with starting up Say It Loud, giving comedians opportunities and stuff like that.
• 1:04:56
  That's the same type, like the work ethic that you put to that,
• 1:04:59
  like you even took Say It Loud show out to Vegas.
• 1:05:04
  Doing shit out in Vegas.
• 1:05:07
  Yes. Once upon a time, the Say It Loud comedy show was in Vegas,
• 1:05:11
  but it was called, oh God, what do we call it?
• 1:05:14
  It was called Comedy Night at the Chocolate Lounge. but it was basically a co-production
• 1:05:19
  of the sail out comedy show shout out to cynthia stager.
• 1:05:22
  So the way the vegas thing came about was speaking of bunsen bullshit the little
• 1:05:27
  live podcast we were doing we had a guy that used to regularly watch the show
• 1:05:31
  he was out in nevada he worked out a bar his bar had had a comedy night so he
• 1:05:37
  invited me and javon out there to do the comedy night,
• 1:05:40
  we met the host of the comedy, Manfred Haim. Shout out to Manfred Haim.
• 1:05:45
  And so Manfred was telling us that he had a show in Vegas that since we were
• 1:05:51
  doing the show Monday, we could follow it up and do the show Wednesday.
• 1:05:56
  So we were like, all right, bet. So we do the show at the bar,
• 1:06:00
  had a good time, had a great set.
• 1:06:02
  At the end of the night, we met Cynthia and come
• 1:06:06
  to to find out she had you know she had dibbled and dabbled and
• 1:06:09
  watched blunts and bullshit here and and there so you
• 1:06:12
  know she was like oh yeah i'm happy to finally meet you like me i
• 1:06:15
  meet i meet meet you guys the comedy being there she was
• 1:06:18
  like our our turnout is hitting this some sometimes but she was like you guys
• 1:06:23
  will be paid regardless so we're like cool so we we we get there and we get
• 1:06:30
  So the show's at the candy factory on the Vegas Strip, it was at the candy factory.
• 1:06:36
  And upstairs from the candy factory is a room called the Chocolate Lounge.
• 1:06:41
  So like they would do the show up there.
• 1:06:44
  So when we got there, Manfred told us that like, we could get anything on the
• 1:06:50
  menu half off. And he said that.
• 1:06:54
  It's the same menu as what they have downstairs, but since we're ordering it
• 1:06:57
  upstairs with the comedy show, everything was half off. So we're like, all right, fuck it, bet.
• 1:07:02
  So, like, we get there, and he's like, he starts, like, he pulls us to the side,
• 1:07:08
  and he's like, dude, we haven't had a turnout in, like, a long time.
• 1:07:13
  He's like, like, it's kind of hit and miss, but y'all are paid regardless.
• 1:07:18
  So, nigga, me and Javon is like, nigga, I ain't come all the way to Vegas to
• 1:07:21
  not do the show, nigga. Like, fuck that.
• 1:07:24
  So just mind you were on the Vegas strip, like we're in front of the Bellagio,
• 1:07:28
  what's the Bellagio and the Vito or Vito, whatever it is.
• 1:07:33
  And then like, there's a mall behind us. So like he goes upstairs, I go downstairs.
• 1:07:39
  We just start grabbing people like, Hey, we're about to do a comedy show upstairs.
• 1:07:42
  It's free, yada, yada, yada. nigga i literally go
• 1:07:45
  into the candy factory and i'm like hey look everything y'all
• 1:07:49
  paying for right here like if y'all go upstairs y'all can get that
• 1:07:52
  for half off and it's and you get comedy show
• 1:07:55
  and they're like for real i was like yeah i was like they ain't they ain't gonna
• 1:07:59
  tell you i was like but just y'all could take that upstairs and you know what
• 1:08:03
  i'm saying you ain't gotta pay the full price and then like one of the chicks
• 1:08:07
  was like well who's on i was like i'm performing and my boy.
• 1:08:12
  And then her partner was like, fuck who's performing.
• 1:08:16
  If it's half off, we're going.
• 1:08:19
  So she takes him upstairs. Boom. I go upstairs.
• 1:08:24
  Javon is recruiting people, got people coming in.
• 1:08:28
  So, wow. We get about 15, 20 people up in that G thing.
• 1:08:33
  We get the show going. They get the show popping. Javon kill it. I kill it.
• 1:08:38
  So at the end of the night, Cynthia comes up to me and, and like,
• 1:08:42
  I'm, I'm telling business out.
• 1:08:44
  I'm personally, but whatever, this is how the show came about.
• 1:08:47
  So she comes up to me and she's like, can, can I talk to you guys after the show?
• 1:08:52
  And we're like, all right, cool. Yes. And you know, we're thinking we're about
• 1:08:55
  to get, well, about to pay us. And so like, yeah, cool. So.
• 1:08:59
  So she pulled me to the side and she's like, look, she's like,
• 1:09:02
  we've been doing the show now for about a month and a half.
• 1:09:06
  And she was like, this is the biggest turnout we've ever had.
• 1:09:10
  She was like, and she was like, I'm not even sure. Like, she was like watching what you guys did.
• 1:09:17
  She was like, she was like, I've literally been trying to ask him to do that as the host.
• 1:09:23
  And he just hasn't been doing it. She's like, and I'm not even sure why.
• 1:09:25
  She's like, you, you, you, you guys don't even live out here.
• 1:09:29
  And you guys were able to, to what she was like, round up like 20,
• 1:09:32
  30 people in like, what, 15 minutes.
• 1:09:35
  And she was like, she was like, so I say all that to say, like,
• 1:09:39
  how would you feel about, about running the show?
• 1:09:44
  And I'm just like, lady, we live in Sacramento.
• 1:09:47
  Like, how the fuck am I going to run a show in Vegas? But I'm a nigga.
• 1:09:51
  So never know. Always. Yes.
• 1:09:53
  I was like, am I a nigga? I was like, I was like, I don't know.
• 1:09:57
  Like if we're going to be coming all the way back and forth,
• 1:09:59
  like we're probably gonna have to have more, more money.
• 1:10:02
  Like, I don't know if like the budget that we have right now would cover it back and forth.
• 1:10:06
  So she's like, all right, what if I, and then she threw out a higher number
• 1:10:10
  and she was like, what if I could get you?
• 1:10:13
  She's like, I can try to get you guys this. She's like, but I can for sure get this.
• 1:10:17
  She was like, but I can try to kick it up and, and, and, and,
• 1:10:20
  and try to get it. Would you guys be interested in doing it?
• 1:10:24
  I was like, nigga, yeah. Like, answer it all, always, yes. So, yeah, we said yes, boom.
• 1:10:29
  So now, at this particular time, we're doing Blessing Bullshit,
• 1:10:34
  Monday through Friday, the podcast.
• 1:10:37
  We had the Say It Loud comedy show on Thursday. We were also,
• 1:10:42
  at this time, doing the Say It Loud Sunday show at Monty's Lounge in Rancho,
• 1:10:48
  excuse me, which was an open mic.
• 1:10:49
  Like, shout out to everybody at Monty's Lounge.
• 1:10:54
  I hate the fact that I'm forgetting motherfuckers' names right now.
• 1:10:57
  Because my guy with the glasses, big beard, that's my nigga, ran the whole thing.
• 1:11:03
  And gave me a great opportunity. That was one of the ones where,
• 1:11:08
  like, the work ethic was there. Just we couldn't get the result right.
• 1:11:12
  But just thankful for every opportunity that I'll get.
• 1:11:16
  But we were doing the sale out Sundays. We had the Sailout Comedy Show on Thursday.
• 1:11:21
  We were doing the Sailout Sunday every first and third Sunday.
• 1:11:25
  The Sailout Comedy Show is the third Thursday of the month. And we were doing
• 1:11:29
  the Vegas show every second and fourth Wednesday.
• 1:11:34
  So we were literally going to Vegas twice a month from Sacramento and we were
• 1:11:39
  running the show in Las Vegas.
• 1:11:41
  And we were booking people like the whole nine. Shout out to Chris Sosa.
• 1:11:46
  Shout out to Kenesha Buss. Shout out to Saul Trujillo, shout out to you, buddy did the show.
• 1:11:51
  Shout out to DJ Soulja.
• 1:11:54
  Shout out to Tay Livingston. Shout out to Big Tay. Tay pulled up.
• 1:11:59
  Melvin Washington and a bunch of other people that came up. Sean Grady.
• 1:12:04
  So just, yeah, we had the Vegas comedy show, bro.
• 1:12:09
  It's something that when I think about it now, I didn't put the energy into it.
• 1:12:14
  Well, not energy, but just I don't think I celebrated that success as well as
• 1:12:18
  I should have looking back on it now. Cause yeah, we were living,
• 1:12:22
  me and Javon were living in Sacramento and we were running a show on the Vegas strip and yeah.
• 1:12:29
  And like, we literally had that thing going for about two, three, three months, I think.
• 1:12:36
  Like we, we had it going and then just, you know, the money we couldn't,
• 1:12:41
  it wasn't balancing out.
• 1:12:43
  And then just you know we was broke
• 1:12:46
  trying to make it happen but just in hindsight wasn't no
• 1:12:49
  trying cause niggas was out there every other week and yeah
• 1:12:53
  slept in cars slept in the train station like
• 1:12:56
  sometimes got a room like yeah bro the grind was real like we was out there
• 1:13:03
  Vegas trip shout out to the guy for real for real and yeah some might think
• 1:13:08
  that story's a bit shady but yeah whatever like what was I supposed to do no
• 1:13:12
  no No, we all go through that. We all...
• 1:13:16
  You got to take those opportunities on our journey just because,
• 1:13:19
  like, that's what you're going to learn from. Like you say, you don't say yes.
• 1:13:21
  I mean, you don't say no. You say yes, you know, just to see what could happen
• 1:13:25
  because you're going to take away something that you could learn from it because you.
• 1:13:29
  Nigga, you don't remember, bro, we literally spent the night in that man's house.
• 1:13:32
  I remember that. I remember that.
• 1:13:34
  No, I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that drive.
• 1:13:39
  I remember all that shit.
• 1:13:41
  We spent the night in the nigga's house, bro. I remember we were driving. All three of us.
• 1:13:46
  I remember i drove the whole way in there but then the one time i like i get
• 1:13:49
  out the car that we just popped the tire in the back i was like oh oh yeah we
• 1:13:53
  got the flat on the freeway bro.
• 1:13:56
  Yeah that's what i'm saying bro talk about it man no he is no we was i know
• 1:14:01
  i know exactly what you're saying bro like that grinded asshole but you take
• 1:14:04
  advantage of the opportunity because,
• 1:14:06
  fucking buddy's like you never know when he's stepping over over this
• 1:14:10
  story i i i ain't gonna gonna let let him do
• 1:14:13
  it nah buddy a humble motherfucker i'm not gonna put fuck all
• 1:14:15
  that we were driving all the way to vegas yes
• 1:14:18
  buddy was the driver the whole time remember when we seen the carrots
• 1:14:21
  i was about to say all the fucking carrots on the road like look
• 1:14:24
  at all these fucking carrots bro so like we're
• 1:14:27
  on the freeway and like a carrot truck
• 1:14:30
  like tips over random truck random
• 1:14:34
  carrot truck so like literally bro the freeway
• 1:14:37
  is stacked about as high as
• 1:14:40
  a fucking second grader of carrots literally
• 1:14:43
  like cars are running over there is
• 1:14:46
  the rose was orange all orange like because there's
• 1:14:49
  carrot like we're literally having to drive slow so that
• 1:14:53
  we can smash the carrots or just we're already driving over the carrots that
• 1:14:58
  were already smashed and like there was literally people like scuffs like piles
• 1:15:02
  of carrots pushed off to the the aside the carrots It's tipped over and when
• 1:15:08
  we were on our way to Vegas, literally,
• 1:15:11
  fucking the back tire popped.
• 1:15:14
  And and literally buddy like down the hill like going downhill yeah yeah so
• 1:15:19
  we literally had to we had to get off into the lane and like i ended up walking
• 1:15:25
  down the freeway to like block and show that we were changing the tire because
• 1:15:29
  it was him him and javon like yeah bro we was,
• 1:15:34
  thugging out there on on the side of the road we we had to put the spare on
• 1:15:38
  like we either doing in the show, we was asking for tips just to pay for a new
• 1:15:42
  fucking tire, just to get back.
• 1:15:43
  You know, speak hard.
• 1:15:47
  All right, so, fuck it. You know what? If people are going to watch that thing,
• 1:15:52
  let's give them some free game.
• 1:15:54
  So, if you're ever on the road, this is my heads up.
• 1:15:58
  This is my tip to help run your bag up. It's not...
• 1:16:04
  It's actually polite to ask for a tip when you're performing when you're on the road.
• 1:16:09
  So when you're on the road, ask for it. Be like, hey, we're on the road.
• 1:16:14
  We're here from Sacramento.
• 1:16:16
  Just if you guys enjoyed the show, hey, go ahead and leave us a tip.
• 1:16:20
  If you're interested, we'll pass a hat around, you know, whatever you can give, you know, da, da, da.
• 1:16:25
  If you're really good at a sob story, you know, if you want to tell a true one,
• 1:16:28
  tell a true one. If you want to, you know, paint outside the lines,
• 1:16:31
  hey, it's your paintbrush.
• 1:16:35
  So you know there it is there because yes yes
• 1:16:38
  the hell we did and yes we
• 1:16:41
  we got an extra tire we got a room we had extra
• 1:16:44
  food on top of what we got paid to do the gig so get paid young nigga get paid
• 1:16:50
  yeah out there thugging man for real buddy was out there matter of fact we i
• 1:16:55
  still got the picture of all of
• 1:16:57
  us in front of the vegas line me you and javon oh yep yes sir yes sir Uh,
• 1:17:02
  and then outside of even just like the, the, the Vegas shows,
• 1:17:06
  like, cause like we, if we're talking about like work and things like that,
• 1:17:09
  you, you do do a lot of producing and things like that. Producing a lot of shows,
• 1:17:13
  a lot of shows you're always.
• 1:17:15
  Even like with the weed show. Right.
• 1:17:18
  Smoking jokes. Smoking jokes. You were doing a show. Were you doing a show before smoking jokes?
• 1:17:24
  No. A weed show? Nah. We were just. Nah.
• 1:17:28
  Like I had did like shows where like. Oh, nah.
• 1:17:33
  I want to say. No. Yes. Yes. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, that's.
• 1:17:37
  You're right. Yes, we did.
• 1:17:39
  We had did cannabis and comedy. Yeah. Cannabis and comedy. That wasn't me, Javon.
• 1:17:46
  Shout out to King Life, me, Javon, King Life, and some other little weed vendors, Corey Calvert, Amy.
• 1:17:54
  We were putting together like weed and comedy shows where you could like smoke weed after the show.
• 1:18:00
  There were vendors there so you could get your cannabis needs and whatnot,
• 1:18:05
  as well as enjoy live comedy.
• 1:18:08
  Fast forward we we did a couple shows it was hit and miss fast forward to the
• 1:18:13
  pandemic the pandemic happened the whole world was shut down and one of the
• 1:18:18
  guys who was putting on private,
• 1:18:21
  like cannabis pop-up shows he had we had toyed with the idea of collaborating
• 1:18:26
  to do like a cannabis and comedy show and just you know we had just it was something
• 1:18:30
  we just kind of kept bullshitting with each other like yeah i'll talk to you
• 1:18:33
  about it i'll talk to you about it you know and see us in passing.
• 1:18:35
  Then the fucking pandemic happened and we was like, he was like,
• 1:18:38
  so you don't want to do it? I was like, fuck yeah, I'm tired of being inside
• 1:18:40
  my house. Like, I'm ready to do comedy wherever.
• 1:18:43
  Excuse me. So, he, seeing as he had the pop-up venue, he was seeing a healthy turnout of, of people.
• 1:18:51
  So on his end, he would market the show and I would book the,
• 1:18:55
  the lineup, put the comedy together.
• 1:18:58
  Boom. So, when we started doing the first one, it was called the Smoking Joke
• 1:19:03
  Show. It was smoking jokes.
• 1:19:05
  During the pandemic, we were actually doing two shows. When it first started,
• 1:19:09
  we were doing an early show at 7.30, and then we were doing a late show at 9.30.
• 1:19:15
  But weed heads, that 7.30 show would always start at like 8,
• 1:19:20
  and then the 9.30 show would fucking around start at like 10 or 11.
• 1:19:23
  Or no, I want to say we started off doing it at 9 and 11.30.
• 1:19:28
  Because we were doing an early show and a late show. But then we started doing the early show earlier.
• 1:19:32
  But when we first started doing it, we were doing two shows a night every other Friday.
• 1:19:38
  Every second and fourth Friday, we were doing that Smoking Dork show,
• 1:19:42
  which was, yeah, we was getting a nice little turnout. It was comedy and cannabis.
• 1:19:47
  And just basically, you know, for people that indulge in cannabis,
• 1:19:51
  you can smoke and enjoy the live show.
• 1:19:53
  Put on some great comics, too. Even put on people that you might not have expected
• 1:19:57
  to see in that type of an environment.
• 1:20:00
  They were on the flyer, so I guess, you know.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah, I guess they'll perform. Well, no, they perform.
• 1:20:07
  They just weren't people you would have expected to see in that environment.
• 1:20:11
  Oh, like the smoking environment? Yeah. Because they're not, okay.
• 1:20:15
  Lance did. Lance and Mikey Winfield did the show.
• 1:20:19
  Oh, yeah, they don't smoke at all. Not at all. Not at all.
• 1:20:23
  Matter of fact, we tried to book Kyrie, but Kyrie left because it was too cloudy for him.
• 1:20:29
  He was like, bro, I can't do this. He was like, it's too thick in here.
• 1:20:33
  But yeah, it was like shit. Lance, for the people that were there when Lance
• 1:20:40
  was there, Lance went crazy.
• 1:20:41
  Lance was stupid. We literally had to pull Lance off the stage. Shout out to Rico.
• 1:20:47
  Like, Lance went in.
• 1:20:51
  Lance was literally killing for, like, two straight hours, bro.
• 1:20:56
  Lance was... Yeah, he could do it. Yeah. Lance was... We literally had to pull him off the stage.
• 1:21:02
  That shit was... People was laughing the whole time.
• 1:21:05
  They was like, let him go! We was like, nah. We was like, bruh,
• 1:21:09
  he done already, like, bruh, this shit is 1 in the morning, nigga.
• 1:21:12
  This nigga still cooking. Like, the hell? Like, shit.
• 1:21:15
  Lance will go on a Chappelle run. Fuck outta here.
• 1:21:19
  But, yeah, shout out to the Smoke Mugga Joke family. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:22
  Shout out to everybody. everybody that was affiliated with the Smokin' Jokes show.
• 1:21:27
  What made you want to do, like, do a smoking show?
• 1:21:30
  Because, I mean, even though, like you said, it was during the pandemic,
• 1:21:32
  it didn't necessarily have to be, like, a weed show.
• 1:21:36
  What is it that made you just want to go out there and do something different?
• 1:21:40
  You want to know what? At the time, we were doing the Bunsen Bullshit thing,
• 1:21:43
  where we were just kind of smoking on, you know, it was just a podcast.
• 1:21:47
  The funny thing was that it just kind of happened.
• 1:21:52
  Like, it wasn't something that we were necessarily trying to do.
• 1:21:54
  It's just that we were smoking on the thing and we would talk about like who
• 1:22:00
  or where we got the weed from.
• 1:22:02
  So if there were particular, you know, vendors or companies that we had got
• 1:22:08
  it from, we'd give them a shout out.
• 1:22:10
  And then that kind of opened one door that opened another door.
• 1:22:13
  And then the conversation about just collaborating about doing a comedy show
• 1:22:18
  with people that their business was, you know, providing people's medicinal cannabis needs.
• 1:22:26
  So like on my end, my specialty was throwing comedy shows on their end.
• 1:22:32
  Their thing was I got a bunch of people that like to buy weed and I think it
• 1:22:35
  would be cool if they had somewhere where they could enjoy their weed and get
• 1:22:39
  some laughs. So, and then just in general, like, as the laws have changed throughout
• 1:22:45
  the time, like, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:22:46
  It's, it's become a lot more, it's a, it's a lot less of a regulated environment.
• 1:22:54
  Like, you have more opportunities to be open about the fact that that might
• 1:22:58
  be something that you engage in.
• 1:23:00
  And so as marijuana has become legal, you know, you kind of realize you might
• 1:23:04
  have been ahead of the curve with some of the things that you were doing.
• 1:23:06
  Because, like, I saw that on the bill now. Like, there you go.
• 1:23:10
  There's petitions for like legalized cannabis bars where right now you can go
• 1:23:15
  to the bar, to a cannabis bar and you can indulge in smoking. With cannabis, yeah.
• 1:23:20
  Yeah. So just on the one hand, me and the people that we were rocking with,
• 1:23:24
  we might've been ahead of our time with all that.
• 1:23:27
  But yeah, like the one thing I will say though about like cannabis environments
• 1:23:32
  versus like alcohol environments is that in all of the cannabis environments I've been to,
• 1:23:40
  the threat for violence isn't
• 1:23:43
  really there you know i'm saying like the fact that
• 1:23:46
  everybody's smoking weed everybody's either to themselves or they're super chill
• 1:23:50
  or like they're like hippies you know what i'm saying so for the most part they're
• 1:23:55
  on they're on a love vibe and then everybody here doesn't want to blow the spot
• 1:24:00
  up you feel me so it's not like a bar where.
• 1:24:04
  Or like a music environment where everybody might
• 1:24:07
  be there to fucking turn up you know what i'm saying so like in most
• 1:24:10
  cases the environment tends to be more relaxed
• 1:24:14
  friendly so just and
• 1:24:18
  then like i will say the difference between a weed crowd and an alcohol crowd
• 1:24:22
  is that the weed crowds get the jokes a little slower saying like that delayed
• 1:24:28
  reaction yeah yeah so you gotta ease up with the punch lines a little bit don't
• 1:24:33
  don't get too creative because you might lose them but yeah Yeah,
• 1:24:36
  it was just an idea that I think that people on their end were good at what they were good at,
• 1:24:44
  and then they felt I was good at something on my end, so I collabed the two.
• 1:24:48
  So it was dope. What do you think is that testament to being able to,
• 1:24:51
  because that's one thing with, say, with comedians, is being able to have that
• 1:24:56
  relationship with them.
• 1:24:58
  With the venue owner to make that relationship work with doing something that,
• 1:25:04
  you know, they may not be used to.
• 1:25:06
  Because if you're even, like, if we're talking about for the aspect,
• 1:25:08
  like, let's say, like, your business, you handle the business end.
• 1:25:11
  I'm going to handle the comedy end. What are some of those things that you learned
• 1:25:15
  from being able to, like, you're that person that's talking to these venue owners
• 1:25:20
  and being able to maintain good relationships with them?
• 1:25:28
  Well, the first thing is that I look at if we're able to get a friendship,
• 1:25:34
  that's an added bonus, right?
• 1:25:37
  Like, I never go into a business deal looking to be friends,
• 1:25:42
  like, because at the end of the day, like, you're not my friend.
• 1:25:45
  We don't know each other. Like, there's not a real, we don't know each other. Like, we're both here.
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  Our mutual agreement is making money, right? Right.
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  So I try to keep the main thing, the main thing, which is how do we make money together?
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  You know what I'm saying? And whatever our agreed upon split is, et cetera, et cetera.
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  So like I mentioned with the Say It Loud comedy show, like before I even had
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  my first show, I heard from what a business owner wanted from the business.
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  And also on their end, what they do that makes them successful.
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  Right. So like at the end of the day, you're supposed to make money.
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  Now, no matter how much I might like you, if I'm not making any money with you,
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  then like, you know, whatever.
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  This is this is just a time yeah you know what i'm saying so
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  like i keep the main thing the main thing which
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  is i focus on how do we produce revenue
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  on said night for said amount of time for whatever so i keep the main thing
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  the main thing and just on my end i try to make sure that whatever i say i'm
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  going to do i follow through on and if not over deliver like i'm punctual.
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  I make sure that like, whatever I'm doing, I'm open about it.
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  So like from the creation of the flyer, like just everything I'm,
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  I'm, I believe in clear community, clear communication upfront or in the process,
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  because I don't want to wait until it's the night of,
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  and then get hit with something unexpected,
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  nor do I want the people I'm dealing with to feel like I'm giving them something
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  unexpected last minute.
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  So like I mentioned with being in a group, right, you want to make sure that
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  your bad habits don't become somebody else's bad habits.
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  And then when you're thinking about a group dynamic, you want to make sure that
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  on your end, you've covered all of your, your bases.
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  So just, if nothing else, I'm not going to be the problem in this business arrangement.
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  Like if we're trying something and it doesn't work, then I mean, it just doesn't work.
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  But if it doesn't work, it's because the business didn't work.
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  And we can, and on the flip, we can actually walk away friends because we can
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  agree that this isn't working.
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  Yeah. Whereas, you know, because we're friends, we're continuing to do this failed experiment.
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  Now you just fill it with resentment. Yeah. Yeah.
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  So every time you see me, I'm, I'm a reminder of this failed thing that we're still doing.
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  So it's like, so on, on my end, whoever I'm, I'm, I'm doing business with,
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  I try to get a clear understanding of what it is they want from me on my end.
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  And if it's something I feel I'm capable of doing, then I agree to it.
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  If it's not something I feel I'm capable of doing, then I don't do it.
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  Unlike other people, I'm okay with walking away from a deal.
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  Like I'm not going to, like I've taken bad deals and then I've,
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  I've taken bad deals just cause I wanted to take a deal.
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  And then I've also taken deals that were, you know, negotiated and then just
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  all in all, like there's always going to be a winning give and take.
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  Cause just at the end of the day, like I'm not a big enough name to have demands, right?
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  So it's all negotiating, but just even with the negotiating,
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  you can get your demands met up front, which is, this is what I'm going to do.
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  If this isn't what you're interested in, then no thank you.
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  Which for the most part, like before I had the Say It Loud comedy show or when
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  I was shopping, doing comedy, like, you know, people thought I was trying to
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  do a rap show and I'm literally like, no, I don't rap.
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  And then so just change the whole perception
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  that you had because like what your perception
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  was was i was about to bring a bunch of weed smoking hennessy motherfuckers
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  in here to like basically possibly be some gang shit like you know you know
• 1:29:51
  what i'm saying like you're thinking the whole rap you're thinking they think
• 1:29:54
  about all the negative things that come with a rap show and i'm like well first
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  of all i don't even do music and i actually do comedy so like Like,
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  the whole type of people I'm going to invite to your venue,
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  even if they are that type of person, they're not going to be that type of person
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  on that night. Yeah, we're not bringing that energy.
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  Comedy's not the environment you go to to create chaos.
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  You know what I'm saying? It's an art form where you're coming to sit,
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  listen, laugh, listen, laugh, sit.
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  It like at no point does this does the
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  at no point is the audience required to
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  like dance and give it energy like literally all you're
• 1:30:37
  supposed to do is sit and listen to it if it's funny you'll
• 1:30:40
  laugh if not you'll you know wait for the next person to
• 1:30:43
  do it better so y'all are supposed to talk but they still do it anyways but
• 1:30:47
  that's on them now right yeah it would be a fuck around and get lit up but just
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  yeah so to answer the question just yeah keep keep the main thing the main thing
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  and and have a clear understanding of what the main thing is and everything
• 1:31:02
  else will work itself out.
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  So, yeah, before we do a wrap up this episode, like I said, we do play this
• 1:31:07
  game at the end of every show called, you know, the Mount Rushmore.
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  Mount Rushmore is just your four convenient inspirations that have,
• 1:31:15
  you know, motivated you or, you know, you feel are the greatest in what they do.
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  Bet. So, yeah, we, we, we, we had this conversation on the phone.
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  So like, all right, bet. So, I'm going to give you, so, like,
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  I'll give you my childhood teenage four.
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  Mm-hmm. Then I'll give you, like, my four...
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  My four that as an adult, they're my four like icons or whatever,
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  or the four right now that I think are the greatest.
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  And then I'll give you the four that my personal favorites of people that I've worked with.
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  I bet. So as a kid, my Mount Rushmore, Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, Bernie.
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  And this one's going to, so Bernie, Eddie, Martin, and this fourth one's going
• 1:32:05
  to throw everybody off. Andrew Dice Clay.
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  Like I liked, I liked how,
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  uh, masculine and how machismo like he, like he, like his persona,
• 1:32:20
  like he's a bad-ass and like, I liked, I liked his aura as a kid.
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  I liked the fact that he was like, he was an asshole.
• 1:32:28
  He wasn't trying to be your friend and just shut up and listen.
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  So like that, that part of it. So like as a kid, I was a big dice fan.
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  So those four are the kid as an adult, Dave, Tony rock, excuse me, Dave,
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  Tony Roberts, excuse me, Dave, Tony Roberts, cat, cat Williams,
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  Dave Chappelle, cat Williams, Tony Roberts, Deon Cole, Deon Cole's father.
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  So those are my four favorites as an adult.
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  My Mount Rushmore of personal people that I have met and worked with.
• 1:33:12
  I can't say Tony again. Sorry, I said Tony, a legend.
• 1:33:17
  But personally, Mikey. Mikey's one of the dopest motherfuckers I ever saw.
• 1:33:24
  Riggins. Definitely Chris Riggins.
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  Well, yeah, shit. Lance and Curry, like, shit. Like, those would be,
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  like, those would be the four that I'd put up there.
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  Niggas I personally like working with. Shout out to the gang.
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  Javon Whitlock. You feel me? Shout out to the whole family. Tristan Johnson. Shit.
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  Rico. Fucking shit, shit, shit, shit, shit.
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  D-Rap. Cookie. The whole Say It Out family. Shit. Kells.
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  Fucking, who am I forgetting? Sammy Eden. Shout out to Sammy Eden. Sammy Eden, my dog.
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  Mars Parker. Shit. Asia May.
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  Oh, yeah. Shout out to the fam. You feel me? For real. Shout out to Mario Hodge, too.
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  Gang, gang. All Beast, man. All Beast. Oh, B.T. Kingsley. Shit.
• 1:34:14
  Let me not forget B.T. Kingsley.
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  D.C. Irvin. Shout out to D.C. Irvin. I'm a personal fan of D.C.
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  Irvin. Love D.C. Shout out to D.C. Irvin.
• 1:34:23
  You know what's funny? Because even like a couple of those comedians that you
• 1:34:25
  just named and stuff like that,
• 1:34:27
  like they could like be like legit like
• 1:34:30
  other people's like mount rushmore's like guns just
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  because there's just just going back to how you say elder there's just a
• 1:34:36
  lot of a lot of strong comedians out here and not only sacramento but like i
• 1:34:39
  said extend out to the bay area there's just something about that that that
• 1:34:43
  that circle that energy that we just that that synergy where we give off with
• 1:34:48
  each other to where we just be able to just create some of these strong comedians
• 1:34:51
  if you're able to take advantage you know me and going out there me and them,
• 1:34:54
  Oh, and Regina Givens.
• 1:34:56
  Everybody that was part of the mics, let me not fuck around with shit on my crews.
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  The mics, shit, the cowboys and cannabis, like, everybody that I've ever had
• 1:35:08
  the pleasure of doing a group thing with, man. Shit, we're all legends.
• 1:35:12
  You dig. So, yeah, before we do, yeah, we wrap up this episode.
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  Where can the people follow you at?
• 1:35:19
  You can follow me on my personal page at Michael Calvin Jr. on Instagram,
• 1:35:23
  at Michael Calvin Jr. on Twitter slash X.
• 1:35:27
  Or you can follow the comedy promo page at Say It Loud Comedy.
• 1:35:30
  That's the page I do all the promos for the show and everything.
• 1:35:34
  So, yeah, that's where you find out about free birthdays, free ticket giveaways.
• 1:35:39
  We're going to start doing some comedy competitions. Shout out to Dries and
• 1:35:42
  the whole Rock the Crowd family where you can always catch the Say It Loud comedy
• 1:35:46
  show streaming on the Rock the Crowd app.
• 1:35:49
  So go ahead and you go ahead and download the Rock the Crowd app.
• 1:35:52
  So go ahead. If you have Google's, if you have Google Play, if you have an iPhone
• 1:35:57
  and all that good stuff, yeah, we're available. We're out there.
• 1:36:01
  Big outside of America too, man. Shout out to everybody that follows the streams and the updates.
• 1:36:07
  You know, we're out here. Also, be on the lookout, man.
• 1:36:10
  Blunts and Bullshit might be, not might be, just it's in the process of coming
• 1:36:13
  back, man. It's definitely backed by popularity and demand.
• 1:36:17
  Yes, so yeah. For sure. Check out the Say It Loud show, streaming.
• 1:36:21
  It's streaming everywhere.
• 1:36:22
  Yes, sir, yes, sir. The only live, well, the only comedy show that I know that
• 1:36:28
  after it's done, you can catch it again.
• 1:36:30
  So, you know, even if you're not able to come out and catch it live,
• 1:36:33
  you can tune in to rock the crowd and.
• 1:36:37
  You know, see what we do, baby. Although, you know, things do get edited.
• 1:36:42
  So, like, you know, the live show is the live show. It's better to come if you're
• 1:36:46
  in or around the Sacramento area.
• 1:36:48
  So I just want to point that out there because, you know, if niggas get edited
• 1:36:52
  or anything like that. Yeah, cut out.
• 1:36:57
  There is a showroom floor. A cutting room floor, my bad.
• 1:37:03
  But yes, sir, man. Shout out to everybody, man.
• 1:37:06
  Shout out to my family. family, mom, dad, yes, love you, mom,
• 1:37:10
  dad, shout out to my sisters and brothers, the whole shit.
• 1:37:16
  Everybody, I'll name them, because they would put and get on me,
• 1:37:18
  shout out to Derek, Ashley, Cara, Tiffany, Xavier, Joshua, my brothers and sisters,
• 1:37:25
  you dig, my nieces and nephews,
• 1:37:30
  Jaden, Jordan, Ryan, Adrian, London.
• 1:37:36
  Oh, shout out to my London.
• 1:37:39
  Shit, I said Adrian, I said London. J, Jordan, Jaden.
• 1:37:46
  Yes. Boom, man. Shout out to my guys. Shout out to you. My daughters,
• 1:37:50
  the A-team. Shout out to Avren and Ayana, my babies.
• 1:37:54
  Love you. Shout out to Buddy for having me in this motherfucker.
• 1:37:58
  Gang in the building. Yes, sir.
• 1:38:29
  Y'all the next episode you catch us streaming everywhere we out.