Latest / AST SpaceMobile Podcast / Kook's Weekly - November 16
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- 0:06This is the AST Space mobile podcast where?
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- 0:21Listen, the opportunity that we have is very, very, very large.
- 0:24Large. Good evening everyone.
- 0:29I go birds, I guess for for those who partake in the tush
- 0:34push. I didn't watch it that
- 0:36carefully. I watched it a little bit and I
- 0:38did point out to my son, I was like a kook junior.
- 0:42That's a tush push push. And he looked at me thinking,
- 0:45this is one of the 500 things that dad regularly lies about,
- 0:49including monsters under the bed and other things, which my wife
- 0:51is like, why aren't you telling the kids there's monsters in
- 0:54their closet? My philosophy is if you
- 0:58blatantly lie about things that are absurd, you disarm fear
- 1:04itself. And This is why Child Protective
- 1:09Services has been called about 15 types of my house when my
- 1:12kids call 911 because they say their dad says there's monsters
- 1:16in the closet. But anyway, the Twitch push is a
- 1:18very valuable lesson because it really is about the benefit of
- 1:22being able to squat 600 lbs and basically do whatever you want
- 1:25in life. And this is really a story that
- 1:29Abell took a lesson from because he, like Jalen Hurts, decided
- 1:36that he wanted to have a trunk the size of a Redwood forest.
- 1:40And now he does because he has $3 billion of cash.
- 1:43But we will get to that in a SEC.
- 1:44But first, let's talk about monsters under the bed.
- 1:47And so if you want to understand what it's like to be one of my
- 1:51children, and, for example, last night we were camping when my
- 1:55daughter and all our little friends were going to bed in a
- 1:57cabin by themselves. And I said, yeah, you know, just
- 2:00just watch out for the lady in the old cabin or referee where
- 2:04it was like the wandering lady, which is of course some made-up
- 2:07story about some scary lady that wanders at night and abducts
- 2:11children. And of course then the children
- 2:12all pulled their mattresses off the bed and slept in the middle
- 2:14of the cabin to protect themselves.
- 2:17And, you know, I view this as good training for my children
- 2:20because how else is a child gonna learn how to take 40%
- 2:26drawdowns regularly and realize that, yeah, there is a monster.
- 2:29It's called the stock market, and it's spooky and it comes out
- 2:34every couple months and basically causes most people to
- 2:37lose money and do the wrong thing most of the time.
- 2:41So now let's visit a little tweet from at Tough for you, who
- 2:46is a kindred spirit. This person seems like he also
- 2:48takes joy in trying to terrify his children with absurd stories
- 2:51to desensitize them and make them tough so that they also can
- 2:56buy the effing dip. And so at Tough For You, we're
- 3:01leading with this. This is quite an accomplishment
- 3:03for anyone to be the lead story on the Kook Report, which of
- 3:06course is a highly esteemed Parity Weekly.
- 3:10This is in fact seemingly following real life.
- 3:12But to protect myself from legal liability, I will continue to
- 3:15say it's parity account. But we have this interesting
- 3:17chart which shows these 40% drawdowns which suck.
- 3:22Anyone that claims sort of false strength of like, oh, I like the
- 3:26cheaper price. I don't know, man.
- 3:28Like I don't, I probably just kind of went straight up after I
- 3:32bought all my shares. But these 40% draw downs are
- 3:34brutal. And I've always just kind of
- 3:36tell myself this is where you separate the men from the boys
- 3:39is it's easy to lose perspective of these things.
- 3:42And a lot of this draw down, you know, it always kind of
- 3:44coincides with a financing, but a financing usually coincides
- 3:49with a Peaky market. So kind of hard to have, you
- 3:54know, a causal factor totally defined, but the market's
- 3:59obviously being being thrown into this sort of AI bubble
- 4:02narrative, which is an interesting debate unto itself.
- 4:06And I don't know that I have a totally strong view, certainly
- 4:10seems to be following in the track of the 1990s fiber build
- 4:14out. But you kind of had to
- 4:15participate. It's a little bit of the
- 4:17Citigroup, Eric Prancer, Charles Prancer, can't remember his
- 4:20first name, but where he said you kind of have to dance while
- 4:22the music is going. And these hyper scalers, you
- 4:25know, can't really take the bet of stepping aside.
- 4:31And the market then is looking at all this money and you know,
- 4:34it's credit funded and you know, blah, blah, blah.
- 4:36Anyway, so it takes down the market in its entirety.
- 4:39ASTS doesn't have a whole lot to do with this.
- 4:41AI seemingly will exist. Whether the ROA on that
- 4:45investment by the hyper sailors is good or bad doesn't really
- 4:48matter, I don't think. Well, actually it does.
- 4:50You know, to the extent the ROA is bad, all the more reason why
- 4:54these guys are going to clamor for Asts so that there's more
- 4:56connectivity and therefore more opportunities to use AI.
- 5:00But I digress. Until you have these 40%
- 5:04drawdowns, usually people are pretty beat up and sad.
- 5:08I'd say that right now the sentiment is surprisingly strong
- 5:11for Asts. Any people now in in this echo
- 5:14chamber in particular? You know, the people we convene
- 5:18with have been through this so much that I think we're no
- 5:21longer really phased by it, which is not to say that the
- 5:25decline isn't over because some people would say, well, then,
- 5:28you know, if there isn't, you know, kook throwing himself out
- 5:30of a window, then there isn't a kook bottom.
- 5:32Therefore the stock must go lower.
- 5:34I don't think that's true, but I'm physically broken and I've
- 5:37been sick for a month. And so I've channeled the
- 5:39negative ASTS energy as as I often do, but I think you have
- 5:43more people in this space mob community now that really
- 5:46understand like, hey, this draw down is kind of like the
- 5:49September October boogeyman striking again, a Middle East
- 5:53striking in late October and November, kind of an AI
- 5:57correlation kind of crap. You know, a little bit of a
- 6:02delay we'll get to in the in the earnings recap, but generally I
- 6:08think people see that this is kind of a normal shake out to
- 6:12take the heat out of the market and that is good.
- 6:14You know, unfortunately trees don't grow the sky.
- 6:18Wish they did. You know, I for one was actually
- 6:21really bullish at $100 per share.
- 6:24I thought we were going to potentially go straight to 140
- 6:27or you know, really make a move. And that of course was exactly
- 6:30the top. But I think we will revisit that
- 6:33pretty soon. So let's get back to
- 6:34fundamentals after we just contextualize that these 40%
- 6:37drawdowns are actually pretty regular.
- 6:40You know, a lot of fortunes have been made by people who saw
- 6:44these corrections as time to to really grow their position if
- 6:47they thought it was appropriate. I'm not saying that that is
- 6:50right for anyone or everyone. It certainly was how I certainly
- 6:56changed my life. I by doing that, admittedly 2 to
- 7:00$3.00 per share, which I recognize is different than 60,
- 7:04but in the context of time buying it 60 bucks might look a
- 7:08lot like $3 per share for right on this thesis.
- 7:10So let's get to the thesis. So ASTS reported earnings last
- 7:17week seems honestly like a lifetime.
- 7:19I, I had to struggle like was it really earnings this week?
- 7:23My God, that sounds like seems like a long time ago, but let's
- 7:27do a quick recap I guess. Let's actually just do a recap
- 7:30with myself. I gave 2 links.
- 7:32One with was with ASTS investors, which is one of my
- 7:35favorite accounts. And the other link I gave is we
- 7:38were truly. Then I'll just kind of go
- 7:39through my own notes because I'm more familiar with them.
- 7:42And so first of all, you know, the big things we already knew
- 7:45is the company going over the commercial accomplishments that
- 7:49they had. So they signed Verizon and they
- 7:52signed STC Saudi Telecom. And it really just gets to the
- 7:56point they're making of we have a big, big market and they were
- 8:01really adamant with an important point that they are working
- 8:08through their big backlog of DAS.
- 8:13And so this is a a really important point because then you
- 8:19can start to say, well, we have 50 plus MN OS.
- 8:25We have LO is with yet we've only signed a handful of DAS and
- 8:29they're signaling to us that this is going to start to be
- 8:33kind of wood that we're going to chop through.
- 8:36And so as I practice with my son, he cannot say this yet.
- 8:40The question the market should ask is how much wood would a
- 8:43woodchuck Chuck if a woodchuck could Chuck wood.
- 8:48And the answer is a lot of wood. If the woodchuck were Asts and
- 8:55the wood were over 50 MN OS to penetrate over 3 billion users,
- 9:00the woodchuck would continue to Chuck the wood as the initial
- 9:06operations of the initial constellation became more clear
- 9:10and it became time to start getting those prepayments.
- 9:14But where the woodchuck would not Chuck wood is where an M&L
- 9:18is more distant, potentially on that chain.
- 9:21And you would really just rather wait to Chuck the wood when they
- 9:26start to see the whites of our eyes.
- 9:28And that's when you can probably start to get the best deals.
- 9:30But it's happening. And so the other thing that
- 9:33Scott said probably like four or five times, it was really pretty
- 9:37clear that he was trying to get our attention is this $1 billion
- 9:44of contracted revenue. You know, what have you done for
- 9:48me lately, Scott? Seriously, dude, a billion
- 9:51dollars, That's all you have and you haven't yet begun your
- 9:54service. That's literally uncontracted
- 9:57revenue for ants, except actually then when you think
- 10:01about it, sure, my expectations might be running ahead of
- 10:04themselves. A billion dollars is pretty
- 10:05crazy, especially since most of it is from STC.
- 10:09So they didn't give a breakout, but you can kind of figure it
- 10:13out. We got some disclosure from STC,
- 10:16but the fact that they said this is minimum revenue commitments.
- 10:21So when that STC disclosure came out, you know, the fundsters as
- 10:24usual said, oh, clues Colt is, you know, misinterpreting this,
- 10:28blah, blah, blah. And turns out, no, we did not
- 10:32misinterpret it. Apparently it was a minimum
- 10:36contractual revenue guarantee. That's crazy.
- 10:39So that's a lot more aggressive of a commercial posture than I
- 10:43was anticipating. I always thought ASTS was going
- 10:46to be sort of heads up. We take the risk.
- 10:47It's all variable. If people don't use it, we don't
- 10:50get it. This starts to sound like you
- 10:52have revenue floors, and that is different from what my
- 10:57expectation was, and that is better than what my expectation
- 11:00was. And the other obvious corollary
- 11:02from this is very, very important.
- 11:05This starts to mean that you have a bankable revenue base.
- 11:09What does that mean? Well, bankable means a bank will
- 11:13look to it for credit support. What does that mean?
- 11:16Credit support means they made a loan to you and they're looking
- 11:18to understand if that loan is good or not.
- 11:21And where you have minimum revenue floors that is good.
- 11:25And that means that lenders are are willing to lend to you lots
- 11:28of money at low rigs and people are like well, kook, they said
- 11:32they're fully funded. Well, I go back to my point of
- 11:34this, you know, things can exist in two states simultaneously not
- 11:39be at odds. And I think as they showed in
- 11:41the call, they are fully funded and they have been for various
- 11:47milestones they previously guided to.
- 11:49So they can be fully funded for block one, They can be fully
- 11:53funded for the 1st 25 units. They can be fully funded for
- 11:57continuous service of 45. They can also then be fully
- 12:00funded for the full constitution of 100.
- 12:02And then they can be fully funded for multiple shells which
- 12:05include blackbirds, etcetera. They can be fully funded yet
- 12:10continue to raise capital because then they're upping the
- 12:12ante of what they are fully funded for.
- 12:15And that seems to be something that a lot of investors sort of
- 12:18missed or didn't really understand along the way this
- 12:20year as we kept on raising money.
- 12:22But then as you read carefully, they changed the definition of
- 12:25fully funded. Fully funded for 45 satellites
- 12:29is very different. Fully funded for 100 satellites.
- 12:32And so then you might say, well then what are they going to do
- 12:34next? Well, EXIM finance is a very
- 12:37obvious thing they talked about for quite some time.
- 12:40And when you start to have this type of minimum revenue
- 12:42commitment, the bankers at XM are starting to salivate because
- 12:46it's just an easy thing to do. They want to give this company
- 12:49these these debt guarantees, which is how XM works.
- 12:52Basically XM gives, I forget if it's a AAA wrap, but XM is a
- 12:56wrap. And so it basically gives credit
- 13:00support to a loan package that is in financed and funded by
- 13:05commercial banks. The commercial banks then look
- 13:07to XM as a guarantee of that debt in addition to the
- 13:11creditworthiness of ASTS itself. This is how cruise lines have
- 13:16funded themselves over time, things like that.
- 13:18Boeing, this will open up additional capital so that ASTS
- 13:24is one of the best funded space companies in history.
- 13:28And the $1 billion of contracted revenue in part is them saying
- 13:32look at how awesome our business model is, you know?
- 13:35Noted Scott. Good work, but it's also a wink
- 13:38link on the credit capacity of the company, which then goes to
- 13:42non dilutive capital that's on the way and they're making good
- 13:45of that process. STC was good non dilutive
- 13:47capital. So then importantly in the thing
- 13:50that's really going to drive the stock we're stepping back, what
- 13:54were the things that really caused the revaluation of ASTS
- 13:57overtime? One is did the technology work?
- 14:01And so it's, and that was really the progression of the R&D
- 14:04experiment. You know, could they unfurl Blue
- 14:06Walker three? Yeah.
- 14:08Could Blue Walker three, you know, complete the link budget,
- 14:13do various thresholds of communication, whether that's a
- 14:183G call, 5G call, video call, things like that.
- 14:22Then we had block 1 and so then it was it could block one work.
- 14:24Could they support basically more complex operations things
- 14:28like that? The answer is yes.
- 14:30What was the special efficiency going to be?
- 14:32And so as you know, I think people getting very confident in
- 14:35the R&D experiment. We've had Department of War
- 14:39tests that show full and and completion of of the system.
- 14:45We had each of the M and OS tested on their own core, which
- 14:49is different than ASTS sort of mock up core.
- 14:52That's, you know, great, wonderful, that's good for a
- 14:55certain amount of dollars per share.
- 14:58Then you have the diffusing of the financing short thesis.
- 15:02So will this company, you know, go bankrupt?
- 15:04Will it be able to fund itself? And then as the company, you
- 15:07know, raise unimaginable money, frankly, then the financing
- 15:12thesis evaporated and people go, OK, well, clearly the the
- 15:17question in the market is not going to finance itself.
- 15:19That's done, done. And then you have the commercial
- 15:22thesis. Will will any of these MN OS
- 15:23actually sign up with this company?
- 15:25You know, we heard we read from Tim Ferrar that they're all
- 15:28going to ditch Asts and go to SpaceX.
- 15:31You know, easiest short thesis in the history of mankind.
- 15:34Except for it was wrong and so none of the M and OS ditched
- 15:39Asts to go to SpaceX. Whoops, short thesis.
- 15:43You know you get what you pay for.
- 15:44When you pay someone 2000 bucks for a report, you should expect
- 15:47advice it's worth $2000 as opposed to listening to a parody
- 15:51account that you pay 0 for. Turns out that parody account
- 15:54did its work and cited a bunch of other super smart people that
- 15:57were right and one of life's great inconsistencies that
- 16:01actually the $2000 report you paid for cost you millions and
- 16:05millions of dollars of opportunity cost.
- 16:07And the free parody account that shut posts all day turns out to
- 16:10have created an untold amount of millionaires.
- 16:13So I don't know the advices of life basically don't really
- 16:18overthink it. You know, it's in Ferrara.
- 16:20Does it go indicate his own work available So you can test it,
- 16:23whereas I do, but I digress. So we're talking about kind of
- 16:28really the unlocks of value. And so even if tomorrow, if ASDS
- 16:34announced Golden Dome, would we all communally have morning
- 16:38glory? Yeah, we would, as Elon would
- 16:40say, but that's just more revenue backlog.
- 16:43We we've already done a lot of that.
- 16:45So yeah, stock would go up a ton for sure.
- 16:48But ultimately people are looking can this company build
- 16:51satellites and are they on track and we continue to shake out
- 16:56that production. So the stock obviously re rated
- 16:59massively when they put out the press release on September 30th
- 17:03I believe about FM one shipping and FM 2 to ship in October,
- 17:08well, you know checks those, it's November 16th.
- 17:12So I could see how the market is apprehensive and saying, well,
- 17:14OK, hold on, what is this satellite production rate
- 17:18actually going to be? And I'm sure, I'm actually not
- 17:21sure, but I'm very convinced that FM 2 is an issue of just
- 17:24coordinating with the ultimate launch vehicle.
- 17:27We had John Stankey come and visit and sign it.
- 17:30I'm not concerned about FM 2. I think they're gonna keep these
- 17:33things in Midland as long as they can.
- 17:37And so once the launch vehicle is ready, then they're gonna
- 17:40start to coordinate these things.
- 17:41But otherwise, you keep these birds in Midland to be testing
- 17:44and doing everything possible. But they said Bluebird 8 through
- 17:4919 are on track, 40 satellites will be done by year end, 26.
- 17:53They expect to exit 2025 with six satellites per month
- 17:56capacity. That's a big milestone.
- 17:59But these guys, we don't need to hit.
- 18:02But if they hit, it's a big deal for the market.
- 18:05And it's really, as I said it, it's all about bird production.
- 18:10And we're supposed to have Bluebird Six launch in the first
- 18:15half of December. So that's really coming up.
- 18:17And Bluebird 7 will ship in November and launch shortly
- 18:20thereafter. And importantly, the ASIC chips
- 18:23will be integrated in Q12026. Once the market sees ASIC
- 18:27Bluebirds shipping launch, unfurling and communicating, you
- 18:34really advance down, you know that old monopoly checkboard and
- 18:39you're starting to put hotels on Park Place no longer sort of on
- 18:45Baltic Ave. And we're, we're getting within
- 18:48striking zone to that. And that I think is really where
- 18:51then the, the stock price sort of shifts into whatever the
- 18:55final gear is. I'm thinking of ASTS as sort of
- 18:58like a nice 7 speed PDK transmission.
- 19:03And then we're finally able to say, OK, we're going to take
- 19:05this thing for 100 miles an hour to redline it at up to 200 mph.
- 19:09We're finally on that last track.
- 19:13And so that that Bluebird production is huge.
- 19:15The other thing they really kind of opened eyes with in my view
- 19:18is the spectrum discussion. And so they closed the Legato
- 19:21spectrum every, everyone should know that.
- 19:23But then interestingly, they told us something we already
- 19:26kind of knew, but they said it in a different way that really
- 19:29woke me up. For example, they said we have
- 19:3280 megahertz in the US alone. And so then guys like Tanner, I
- 19:36think some others, but Tanner specifically really went, went
- 19:39and put pencils down, pencils up and start to figure out how to
- 19:42tribulate that 20 megahertz, 80 megahertz.
- 19:47And you know, they're getting to be pretty big in the USI gotta
- 19:51do some. Yeah, check my notes 'cause I
- 19:53actually did some work on this earlier.
- 19:55But when you start to look at also, I'll pull it up.
- 19:57Actually we wanted to talk. When you look at Asts actually
- 20:00versus one of the major MN OS, it's actually starting to look a
- 20:03lot like one of the main carriers in the US or or
- 20:07certainly a baby version of it. And that 80 megahertz of this is
- 20:12where I'm just trying to check my notes.
- 20:14I think the US carriers have like 250 megahertz, something
- 20:19like that. And let me just see what they
- 20:23did. Yeah, Unfortunately, I think I
- 20:27just hard pumped this in my numbers when I was looking at
- 20:28what the revenue per megahertz was for AT&T in Verizon and just
- 20:34as a proxy for Legato and monetizing their spectrum.
- 20:38But if you use that sort of benchmark of how much revenue
- 20:41per megahertz AT&T can generate per megahertz, which is quarter
- 20:45of a, was it quarter of a billion dollars.
- 20:50If you apply that say rubric just to ASTS for the US,
- 20:55excluding any other opportunity to USA, then ASTS would have $20
- 21:01billion of revenue generating capacity on the spectrum they've
- 21:06already secured in the US. These are big boy numbers.
- 21:10Now whether that proxy is the right way to think about this, I
- 21:14don't know. It's just a proxy, but you could
- 21:16argue it both ways. ASTS should be able to and this
- 21:19is gross revenue. ASTS should be able to monetize
- 21:21more than the average revenue per megahertz of AT&T because
- 21:24AT&T has a lot of commodity spectrum.
- 21:26Commodity service versus this is premium.
- 21:30This is what Vodafone and their interview really said.
- 21:32Is this satellite enabled spectrum is is very scarce, very
- 21:37premium, should not be the same price point as normal
- 21:39terrestrial. So that's when you start to
- 21:41think, well, I wonder if Kuke's little back of the envelope
- 21:45calculation is dramatically conservative.
- 21:47We'll find out overtime. But the important take away for
- 21:50me is you sure to see that there is potentially not a pot of gold
- 21:56at the end of the rainbow, but a pot of whatever is more valuable
- 22:01than gold. I was gonna say diamonds, but
- 22:02diamonds have depreciated so massively because of cubic
- 22:05zirconiums. That analogy doesn't really hold
- 22:08up anymore. But Needless to say, the
- 22:11Spectrum Treasury company thesis is alive and well.
- 22:14And this is where I believe that NAV type investors will will
- 22:18start to go crazy when they figure this out.
- 22:20Never mind that ASCs then drops this bomb of we have 1150
- 22:26megahertz of global spectrum that's tunable with our global
- 22:32M&O relationships. So that's different than
- 22:35spectrum they control for sure. But it's showing just the
- 22:38enormity of the opportunity in terms of their spectrum capture.
- 22:43And when you break it out, and I believe I have this elsewhere in
- 22:45my weekly, when you break it out, the spectrum they have is,
- 22:51is largely the Lagata spectrum and then Firstnet spectrum.
- 22:53It's just the teeny peanuts of the AT&T and Verizon spectrum.
- 22:57I believe it's 2.6 or 2.8 megahertz from each of those,
- 23:02just tiny little slivers. So that's going to grow
- 23:04massively as the service comes to the line.
- 23:07The theory was always that AT&T and Verizon, we're just going to
- 23:09put in this little slivers for approval, not to upset the apple
- 23:12cart. But then later once the service
- 23:14is up and as they're using the capacity, they'll grow that.
- 23:17And so it's very exciting for ASTS because they are really in
- 23:23the spectrum alchemy business and the company is starting to
- 23:26frame it in a way that TMT kind of telecom investors will really
- 23:31understand it. The first time they start to
- 23:33really give you numbers around their kind of aggregated
- 23:40spectrum control, which is really exciting.
- 23:43So then we look at launch, they gave updated launch guidance,
- 23:45things kind of slipped about a month, but then we're
- 23:48compressing in the back back part, which means that, you
- 23:51know, there isn't really global slip issue, just sort of as they
- 23:55shake down this initial production.
- 23:56So they have to hit that. You know, you, it's one thing to
- 23:59say, oh, things only slip by a month.
- 24:01Well, you got to make sure they don't slip by yet another month
- 24:03and another month. So there's, there's pressure on
- 24:05these guys, but it really does look like the there's light at
- 24:09the end of the tunnel for production.
- 24:11And then they talked about how we're going to live steam in the
- 24:13highest Hyatt's markets first. That's great.
- 24:16And they kept on repeating this $1 billion aggregate revenue
- 24:19commitment. It's a it's a powerful
- 24:21validation of the business model and it also provides A framework
- 24:24that other other people will follow until STC being the first
- 24:29deal announced probably means that the other ones in the
- 24:32future are going to be better, not worse.
- 24:34SAT Co continues to expand and it really looks like it could
- 24:40potentially could sweep Europe and have almost, you know all
- 24:46where vast majority of the M and OS side up as well as getting
- 24:50Iris squared, which is the sovereign European
- 24:55constellation, which could be many, many billions of dollars
- 25:00of revenue just for that opportunity.
- 25:03And so the spin up of the ASTS money machine is something we're
- 25:08really starting to see front center and you can only imagine
- 25:12over the next 6 to 9 months, it's going to be a crazy pace of
- 25:15development. The company continues to get
- 25:17interest from the US government. They see no change in the trend
- 25:21of AUS focus on space. They won another contract and
- 25:26they said, quote, they plan for a long large contracts going
- 25:30forward. I think all of us are really
- 25:32hoping that means Golden Dome. Now that the government is open,
- 25:36maybe we'll start to see some more things come in terms of
- 25:40Golden Dome. Andy Johnson's done a great job
- 25:44and so showed us that they have $3.2 billion of adjusted
- 25:48liquidity. And importantly the average cost
- 25:51of the satellite guidance has remained constant.
- 25:54It's the same 21 to $23 million range that they had in Q12025 S
- 26:00Things are under control. That is important for the market
- 26:03to know and they really reiterated a lot of the other
- 26:07prior guidance they had in terms of what the initial 25
- 26:11satellites will mean and things like that.
- 26:13All positive to here. And you know, to give some, some
- 26:17more details around how they generate liquidity.
- 26:20But importantly, they're now fully funded to manufacture over
- 26:23100 satellites. And again, an important point
- 26:27when people say, well, I thought they said that they were fully
- 26:32funded and then they diluted me and Oh my God, it's a crime
- 26:35against humanity. Well, take a report, sit down.
- 26:39I don't know if people understand that.
- 26:40Take a report reference. It was like this Citigroup
- 26:43industrial analyst that ran a secret anonymous account, which
- 26:46was absolutely hysterical back in like 2013 and then was
- 26:51discovered and got fired. So there's the risk of running
- 26:55anonymous accounts. But anyway, the key point is we
- 27:01want to be fully funded for the biggest opportunity the company
- 27:05could reasonably be in a position to seize.
- 27:07We do not want to not pursue an opportunity for lack of money
- 27:11when the money is not creating meaningful dilution.
- 27:15And so we want these guys to be in a spot where they can grab
- 27:17everything. We want a monopoly.
- 27:20We want to kick the ever living shit out of SpaceX.
- 27:22It's as simple as that. And we want to just basically
- 27:26cause any would be competitor to stare in a mirror and hate
- 27:29themselves because they have no chance because this Goliath ASTS
- 27:35is going to destroy them like marauding Vikings.
- 27:40And the company with its balance sheet is in a great position to
- 27:42do that. So they can cross and really
- 27:47part in the sea. At this point, they're on target
- 27:49to execute their plant. So then they also dropped this
- 27:52cool thing, this AI spectrum multiplier.
- 27:55Holy crap. I'm assuming other companies are
- 27:58innovative in the same way, but it just shows the power and the
- 28:02scalability of this company. And so where we might have
- 28:05previously thought maybe there's a spectrum limitation to how
- 28:08much data they can process, what they're showing is that these
- 28:11systems are going to be far more scalable than even the
- 28:14optimistic people like myself could have imagined.
- 28:18And so if you can create more spectrum, you can create more
- 28:22revenue for yourself. This is exactly what happened to
- 28:25Verizon when Charlie many moons ago was trying Charlie Ergen.
- 28:30I should be work there was trying to hold them hostage to
- 28:33to buy all the dish spectrum. Verizon said we don't like being
- 28:37held hostage, thank you very much.
- 28:39And so then they started doing more densification with five GI
- 28:43forgot the exact term, but they basically figured out a way to
- 28:46multiply their spectrum using the then available technology to
- 28:49do so. And that allowed Verizon to
- 28:51scale its revenues more capital efficiently or at least without
- 28:56the constraints of spectrum than it otherwise previously.
- 28:59It's not possible. And I just present that as an
- 29:01analog to what AST is telling us they're going to be able to do,
- 29:05which is going to be great for our overall opportunity and just
- 29:09shows you the general innovations in the market and
- 29:11specifically the innovations by ASTS Space Mobile.
- 29:17So I think that really covers our earnings review.
- 29:21If that wasn't enough for you, I really some of you, you know
- 29:25need all things Space Mobile. I gave you the link for and Pan
- 29:29Man's spaces on the topic and then I talk a little bit more.
- 29:35You know when I'm looking at my posts really just about this
- 29:37ASTS spectrum treasury concept and we just make one highlight.
- 29:43Catsy of of course was first this observation, but it really
- 29:46goes into the understanding of band 14 and Band 14 is the first
- 29:53set spectrum and so ASTS is integrating Band 14 into the
- 30:00supplemental coverage from space.
- 30:01That's all in the FCC filings. And so AT&T can use this
- 30:05spectrum for general users. So basically for commercial
- 30:09users when band 14 capacity is idle and then it can
- 30:13automatically preempt that commercial use if and when
- 30:16public safety demand rises, which is exactly how the
- 30:19Firstnet network works today. And so this is a stroke of
- 30:23genius because it effectively through AT&T and Firstnet and
- 30:27ASTS being clever together was able to create 20 megahertz of
- 30:33commercial spectrum for use by AT&T when it's not in need to be
- 30:38preempted by first night for commercial capacity without
- 30:42having to build out all the towers and things like that.
- 30:46Really smart stuff. And it just goes to why ASTS is
- 30:53so loved by the M and OS. And this we'll get to in a
- 30:57second about the Vodafone call. But when we talk about the AI
- 31:05spectrum multiplier, that's one thing.
- 31:08Another aspect is just to remember not to overthink it.
- 31:13Now who am I to give advice, but you might want to just reflect
- 31:16on this tweet from at Luke trades ASTS where he just he or
- 31:21she Luke probably he says NVIDIA makes the chips that run AIASTS
- 31:26connects the devices that you use AI.
- 31:29Don't overthink it. This is how this is how I think
- 31:32about it as well as you got to think about the value chain.
- 31:35You, you've seen the security price movements as people
- 31:37realize. I think we've talked about this,
- 31:39you know, oh wow, they need a lot of chips.
- 31:41Oh wow, they need a lot of data centers.
- 31:43Oh wow, they need a lot of DRAM. Oh, they also need a lot of
- 31:46power and they blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 31:47And so now we're going to have all this stuff and people are
- 31:50going to want the connectivity because the use cases for AI are
- 31:53going to expand massively beyond all of us using chat ship, BT
- 31:58you're going to have all these AI enabled robots, drones,
- 32:01things like that. These things are all going to
- 32:03need to have positive control and that's going to require
- 32:06satellite network that is ASDS. And this is a really exciting
- 32:11place. It could of course be a
- 32:12terrifying place 'cause this is also what gives rise to Skynet.
- 32:16But what I understand is that Skynet will spare all of those
- 32:20who can show positive ownership of at least one shared ASDS
- 32:23space. Mobile is at least what what
- 32:27Scott told me once we try to get me to own those shares.
- 32:31So now let's think about the March toward Golden Dome.
- 32:35It sure seems like there's progress.
- 32:37And so let's go revisit our friend at Tough for you.
- 32:43Sorry, Tough for R. And so this person I believe has
- 32:47a military background just based on the nature of their posts.
- 32:50I don't, I don't actually DM with this guy very regularly or
- 32:52probably should, but seems like someone that knows what they're
- 32:55doing. And so there's just more data
- 32:58he's picking up on in terms of what they're negotiating.
- 33:02And so he's convinced this, a lot of the stuff we're seeing is
- 33:05this SDA Halo program and that this is a precursor to to larger
- 33:13things. Now we'll all find out, but the
- 33:15March to Golden Dome seems to be well established.
- 33:18The new thing we're looking at. You know what's what's more fun
- 33:21than one hike? You know what I said to my kids?
- 33:25Two hikes. So the other March we're going
- 33:28to go on is toward Iris. And so Iris squared is again,
- 33:32this European constellation I've written not previously because
- 33:35the original, the original idea that Europe had was super dumb,
- 33:40almost as dumb as the creation of the euro itself.
- 33:43But the Iris squared idea was basically like how to make all
- 33:48these countries happy. So like, let's get a little
- 33:50German contribution. Let's get some French
- 33:51contribution. I don't know.
- 33:53Why don't we have every European country that previously fought
- 33:56to the bone in a war trying to create one integrated
- 33:59constellation and then not think about the economic case.
- 34:02That seems like a great mandate from Brussels.
- 34:04And that's what they did. And of course, it's basically
- 34:07dead on arrival. And then, you know, and seeing
- 34:11Vodafone is sitting there with this incredibly powerful Satco
- 34:15system, gobbling up all the MNO interest, already testing this
- 34:19thing in Malaga, already having Facebook using it.
- 34:23And so Satco just seems like it's prime to take Iris Square
- 34:28and the press releases out of Vodafone and ASTS all but tell
- 34:32you that they're either gunning for it or already want it with
- 34:37the talk about the day of sovereignty, which is a
- 34:39recurring theme, the command switch, the fully European set
- 34:43up, all this stuff. Very exciting to see this
- 34:47progress. For all I know, Iris Squared
- 34:50could be a bigger deal than Golden Dome, which is not to
- 34:52diminish Golden Dome. It's just that Iris Squared
- 34:56could potentially be as big or bigger because it's also going
- 34:59to wrap in Firstnet and things like that.
- 35:02So keep an eye on that. But then the other interesting
- 35:05part of this is how those Sapco, Iris Squared, whatever you want
- 35:10to call it, is also leading us on a journey to potentially grab
- 35:17a lot of this European 2 gigahertz spectrum.
- 35:23And so Vodafone is going to be in a very interesting spot.
- 35:26The people that currently hold the spectrum, I believe are up
- 35:30for license renewals in May of 2027.
- 35:35And so I've quoted 2 links from Doctor Mike.
- 35:38When in doubt, always trust the doctor.
- 35:40They went to medical school, which is why they're perfectly
- 35:43positioned to tell you about spectrum, of course.
- 35:46But ASCs is a very interesting spot.
- 35:49And when you think about it, what's happened, ASCs has
- 35:52basically grabbed spectrum in interesting ways through Legato,
- 35:55which was basically $0.10 on the dollar to get their spectrum or
- 35:59getting it effectively for free with partnerships with MN OS.
- 36:04Now, by contrast, SpaceX paid $22 billion for their spectrum.
- 36:10That's what it's like to be lonely.
- 36:12You got to pay for companionship.
- 36:16But if you just ask people, may I meet you?
- 36:21To quote the great Romeo of our time, Bill Ackman, you just
- 36:26never know. Maybe you get the spectrum for
- 36:28free. And so ASTS is really sort of
- 36:32the Bill Ackman spectrum. They're just going around all
- 36:36slick and saying, listen, may I meet you?
- 36:42And honestly, it's like, just take my spectrum.
- 36:45Whereas SpaceX is being like, yo, what's up?
- 36:48Do you want some drinks? Like, want to go back to my
- 36:50place? And people are like, yeah, I
- 36:51went back to your place for $22 billion.
- 36:54You know, it's a Pretty Woman in the extreme.
- 36:58And it's really interesting to see this divergent in spectrum
- 37:02strategy. And I would just say that I am
- 37:06pretty, pretty, pretty excited about how our strategy is
- 37:10unfolding and the possibility again, and I don't say this
- 37:13facetiously, you know, as a parody account press this, I
- 37:19feel like I'm a very serious parody account.
- 37:22Well, I I don't have anything in the future to be clear, but I do
- 37:28see founder thinky. That's one thing I think I now
- 37:33understand in my life. And I understand if someone sees
- 37:36a path for something big now, will they hit it?
- 37:39I don't know. But I do feel like I'm pretty
- 37:41well equipped to understand if a founder has a vision and they
- 37:45see a path that the rest of the world didn't see or thought was
- 37:49stupid, but they see an opening to do something big.
- 37:53I see ASTS having a path to become a $1 trillion company
- 38:00again. I don't start a price target,
- 38:02but I but I see how Abell understands that he can go for
- 38:09it, run the gauntlet and get there.
- 38:10I see how Scott sees the cards on the table and go.
- 38:15I almost have checked me like there's a path and the spectrum
- 38:19strategy is so fascinating to me because you could really see the
- 38:22world wake up, the world being investors, wake up and go God
- 38:25damn it. These guys basically became the
- 38:30black hole were all spectrum wanted to go and they didn't
- 38:34have to pay for it. You know, Isabel said it was
- 38:37it's a price no one can afford. But when you say may I meet you,
- 38:43as it turns out again, you just don't know what you're going to
- 38:46pick up. I just wish I had had this
- 38:47insight when I was in my 20s instead of like going on
- 38:50match.com and getting iced. And so then here we are.
- 38:54But anyway, Speaking of people with big plans for date night, I
- 38:58would suggest that you listen to this interview by Vodafone, Luke
- 39:03Ibbotson. I listened to this when I was
- 39:04driving up camping. Of course, my daughter really
- 39:07loves it when we head up and get in the trap and she's like, all
- 39:10right, dad, let's bond. I'm like, yeah, let's bond.
- 39:13Let's listen to a 15 minute interview with the head of group
- 39:18R&D from Vodafone. And she's like, where do I get a
- 39:21new dad? She can't, she's stuck with me.
- 39:24But I was like, look, it's a very important to learn a little
- 39:26bit about RF engineering. So she she listened.
- 39:29But this Luke Ibbotson interview is great.
- 39:32They really again talks about the architecture.
- 39:34They're not trying to pick a winner.
- 39:35They just literally picked the winner.
- 39:37And I think that's a nuances. They weren't trying to put
- 39:40anyone in business. They were just looking at all
- 39:42the solutions and ASTS was the good one and they're really
- 39:46excited about it. So it really please listen to
- 39:48that and then we have a lot of other upgrades.
- 39:51So I've linked out all this outside reports.
- 39:52Appreciate those of you that send me to this.
- 39:55I always ask for permission before I share it.
- 39:57When I see that Anpan man already posted it, I'm always
- 39:59just going to link him out so I don't ever accidentally post
- 40:03something that's watermarked. But we've got B Riley, we've got
- 40:07Deutsche Bank, we've got Roth, we've got Bammel.
- 40:09Then we have a fireside chat with Bammel, which is
- 40:11interesting and I'll get to that in a SEC.
- 40:14Then Anpan man has done God's work by.
- 40:18Organizing all this sell said research so we can really
- 40:20understand what we have sometimes, you know, I would say
- 40:25it here, we'll say it again. Impair man is an AI from the
- 40:27future. We're very, very blessed to have
- 40:30him. And then it's interesting, and I
- 40:32don't want to dish rag on on Rocket Lab, but will is you have
- 40:38this dynamic of like, did the market just move away from these
- 40:42guys? And so let's just take a quick
- 40:45visit with Mega Constellations. You have this interview and
- 40:50megaconstitution calls about saying that they're not spending
- 40:52billions on spectrum yet. They're looking at tuck
- 40:54insurance and quote big needle moving stuff.
- 40:57And so there's speculation that Iridium and Rocket Lab might
- 41:01actually kind of have a shotgun wedding because both companies
- 41:05might have kind of found themselves outplayed.
- 41:07Iridium just was the classic example of Innovator's dilemma.
- 41:12They were sitting there, they had me a cool little cash
- 41:14flowing business. And so, you know, the guy
- 41:17probably went to Harvard Business School night school and
- 41:20it was like, hey, went to Harvard Business School night
- 41:22school. I should pay some dividends and
- 41:23buy back stock. And look, it's capital
- 41:26allocation that makes me smart. No, makes you pretty susceptible
- 41:32to disruption. And so, you know, it's what you
- 41:36get for not thinking. And so the guy embarked on a
- 41:40capital return strategy, right? It's the fraud with innovating.
- 41:43And then they find themselves basically unable to catch up,
- 41:49but they are left with some valuable assets.
- 41:51They have, you know, again, $500 million of EBITDA and they have
- 41:55some spectrum. And so there's a possibility
- 41:58Rocket Lab, which I don't know why Rocket Lab stock is up.
- 42:01Honestly, when looking at what's happening with Blue Origin, you
- 42:05just have to ask yourself like, what's the opening?
- 42:09And I'm sure Rocket, a lot of people have a great response for
- 42:12that, but you know someone who doesn't really, I have no axe to
- 42:15grind it in this. I'd be thrilled if Rocket Lab
- 42:17was a super successful company to provide more launch, but I'm
- 42:21just kind of struggling what I'm missing here in terms of what
- 42:26looks to be a crowded market for launch.
- 42:29And then the key with launches, you got to have some captive
- 42:32cargoes like that. Just seems like that's a pretty
- 42:34established part of the strategy here where SpaceX can always
- 42:39fill a rocket. So that means that their rocket
- 42:41refurbishment facility and their booster production can be
- 42:43running, you know, on OverDrive because they always know they
- 42:47can shoot those up and that means they can absorb the costs.
- 42:51And that's very important in a business like this.
- 42:54And then you have Blue Origin, which is going to have a lot of
- 42:57Kiper cargoes, is already stacked it with a bunch of NASA
- 43:01work, things like that, stacked it with AST space mobile.
- 43:05Now I think we actually really do know what congratulations
- 43:08meant. As much as I was hoping, and I'm
- 43:12not saying that there won't be a strategic investment, but I
- 43:14really now I'm understanding the magnitude of what a Bell did.
- 43:20A Bell effectively vertically integrated with Blue Origin on a
- 43:26contractual basis to get massive amount of launch.
- 43:32That's what congratulations meant.
- 43:34He basically threw the stroke of a pen, got his own Starship
- 43:40without having to work on it for 10 years and blow billions and
- 43:44billions of dollars of risky R&D and the whole professional
- 43:50apparatus required to do something like that.
- 43:52That's what you do if you're a Bell.
- 43:56And that's why Adriana said congratulations, because he got
- 44:01his own rocket company on Prime Day where they were giving it
- 44:06away. That's my idea.
- 44:09So anyway, then I digress. So this is where my point was.
- 44:14The stragglers are going to start to have to get really
- 44:16creative. Now, some people might
- 44:18appreciate the irony of me linking Pierre Linley, who I
- 44:22previously have dish ragged relentlessly in earlier sessions
- 44:26of the Kook Weekly. But again, as a parody account,
- 44:31I have really no need to be consistent.
- 44:35And so I wanted to just say when I disagree with this guy and
- 44:38when I do agree with this guy, I think he's kind of a Luddite
- 44:42when it comes to understand disruption.
- 44:44I think he's got kind of a classic legacy European view of
- 44:48not really liking these American companies that come and disrupt
- 44:52their businesses, which I can fully appreciate, but that's
- 44:54life. And so that's when I I think he
- 44:57has somewhat of a narrow view when thinking about things like
- 44:59ASTS, but I think he has somewhat of a realistic view in
- 45:02in other times. And here when he's looking at
- 45:04the Rocket Lab quote, he says quote, disturbingly vague
- 45:08approach. And he quotes Rocket Lab
- 45:11building our own constellation. And whether that's providing
- 45:13services or infrastructure, I think is yet to be determined,
- 45:18which is a quote from Peter Beck.
- 45:19And I think that just goes to these other companies.
- 45:24Again, nothing, you know, overtly negative to Rock Lab.
- 45:26I'm not trying to piss off the hornet's nest, but I'm just
- 45:30trying to state that I do believe the market is now seeing
- 45:33that there are really some winners that are breaking away
- 45:36from the pack. SpaceX is the incumbent.
- 45:38That's the that, you know, that's the the secretariat, the
- 45:42beautiful horse. Everyone knows.
- 45:45And then I think what is becoming very clear as the ASTS
- 45:49is, is really the actual breakout for Leo.
- 45:53And then the lodge guys have this problem of as Leo and the
- 45:57cargos are effectively spoken for with SpaceX and AST space
- 46:00Mobile, there's not a lot of room for other cargos to go up.
- 46:03And if there's not a lot of other room for cargos to go up,
- 46:06it's really hard to underwrite your own lodge capacity and
- 46:09that's gonna leave people in the lurch.
- 46:11And now again, I think Rocket Lab will will be at least maybe
- 46:15they're successful in to a breakout, don't know, don't
- 46:18really care. But I do think that they're
- 46:19going to be at very least sort of like the AMD of 2010 that no
- 46:25matter what, they're going to be kept in the game because the
- 46:28government, for example, wants diversity of supply and everyone
- 46:32wants Rocket Lab to be successful at the Department of
- 46:35War. I could almost guarantee you
- 46:36that. And so then we're really just
- 46:39isolating the debate to the magnitude of their opportunity.
- 46:42And that's where I think they seemingly are being outplayed in
- 46:45a in a market where people who are specializing at certain
- 46:48things are going to break ahead versus companies that kind of
- 46:51now have to be jacks of all trades.
- 46:53So now Speaking of things where a company specialized, holy
- 46:58crap, this Blue Origin lodge can bring grown men to tears.
- 47:03This has to be one of the most beautiful things I've seen.
- 47:08I vividly remember when the Falcon Heavy went up with the
- 47:11Tesla Roadster cry. And I don't, you know, it's,
- 47:14it's a weird human response. Like, well, Cook, why'd you cry?
- 47:17You know, did you have like a Polly Market vet saying it was
- 47:20going to blow up? No, I didn't.
- 47:21I cried because I think, you know, for a lot of people
- 47:26myself, at least when you see this stuff, you you kind of
- 47:29realize the enormity of the universe and the trivialness of
- 47:35the human state. And it's just unbelievable that
- 47:38we're going into space like this.
- 47:39It's just so cool and, you know, it's, you think about what this
- 47:43means for your children and things like that.
- 47:45It's just so exciting to to, to be alive today.
- 47:49And these pictures are unbelievable.
- 47:51And, and frankly, the live streaming of, of these launches,
- 47:54whether it's SpaceX or Blorogen or, or others, the, the wave of
- 48:00emotion of, of the people working at these companies.
- 48:04I mean, if you're not affected by this and getting caught up,
- 48:07then, you know, maybe you got to join Brian Johnson and, you
- 48:11know, try 5 grams of mushrooms and, you know, talk to God and
- 48:15then this is this is inspiring stuff.
- 48:18But most importantly, never mind just how cruel it is to to watch
- 48:22these teams do this. You know, I I just can't begin
- 48:25to imagine the complexity of this.
- 48:27This has big ramifications for AST space mobile.
- 48:31And so they now now I think I have a pretty clear picture of
- 48:35this. Congratulations on what you
- 48:36know, the meme we have with Ariana standing there.
- 48:40Ariana for for those who are newer to ASP space bubble, she's
- 48:44the daughter of a of a billionaire telecom executive
- 48:46who sadly passed away last year or this year.
- 48:49She's in a with a picture with Abell or our fearless leader and
- 48:52then Jeff Bezos, who some of you might remember from a, a book
- 48:56company he built like Amazon or something.
- 49:00But he also is CEO of Blue Origin for anyone who hasn't
- 49:03heard of him before. And they're all smiling
- 49:07together, positive body language.
- 49:09They just concluded a deal. This had been tweeted out or
- 49:13Instagram back in May. And we were all speculating,
- 49:16well, what? Congratulations on what?
- 49:18And now we know that ASCs contracted, you know, something
- 49:23probably like 30-40 plus satellites to go up on Blue
- 49:27Origin. So they bet big that this rocket
- 49:31was going to be the first big boy rocket that was going to be
- 49:34operationalized and and they were right.
- 49:37That's it turns out. And so if you missed it, Blue
- 49:41Origin not only had its two for two orbital success rate until 2
- 49:49launches, both times they hit successful orbit very hard to
- 49:55do. And then what was still amazing
- 49:57this time is they were actually able to land the booster in what
- 50:00was had to be one of the most dramatic things the space
- 50:03industry is really seeing watching this thing course
- 50:06correct and hover like 200 feet. And So what this allows is is a
- 50:10more rapid scaling of Blue Origins operations.
- 50:15Even though they have a lot of boosters in production, they
- 50:16could have easily lost this booster and it wouldn't have
- 50:18been a problem. But it just shows that they're
- 50:20going to be on a faster path to scalable launches and economics.
- 50:25They're going to be very compelling from Blue Origin,
- 50:28which that allows them to have lower prices, which benefits all
- 50:31the people who have cargoes. This successful launch is a big
- 50:35deal for diversifying access to launch for people like ASTS.
- 50:39But again, it's also very important to remember ASTS is
- 50:41going to be a prolific customer of SpaceX.
- 50:45And they also can launch on the Japanese rockets, the European
- 50:48rockets, the Indian rockets and others until they're really
- 50:51going to be in a nice position in the next couple years with
- 50:55lots of diverse launch vehicles to use, excluding Russian and
- 50:59Chinese supply, which puts them in a really good spot.
- 51:04On the other end of the spectrum, while we have this
- 51:06really exciting development with Glue Urgium, we did get an
- 51:09update from Deutsche Telekom and we'll end on this about the
- 51:12Starlink satellites. They're going to utilize the new
- 51:16spectrum. These satellites are now looking
- 51:18like they're going to be delayed to 2028 or 2029.
- 51:23And so this is pushing back Spacex's incremental response to
- 51:29Asts by three to four years from today by then.
- 51:36Never mind that SpaceX doesn't have any MNO contracts by then.
- 51:41ASTS should be the very clear dominant provider in the market
- 51:45already well oiled machine, cash flowing, providing very
- 51:49effective and efficient services to M and OS, gobbling up deals
- 51:53with all of those M and OS and more likely to not advancing on
- 51:56their product product road map to have yet more advanced
- 51:59satellites than we presently see.
- 52:01So my point has been for quite some time, when people say it,
- 52:06it's not gonna be one player in the market there.
- 52:10You know, there's going to be multiple players.
- 52:13I always feel like people are insinuating that ASTS is going
- 52:16to be a minor #2. An AMD from 2010, for example.
- 52:22My view has been and continues to be Reef, you know, really
- 52:25strengthened every day that ASTS is going to be the winner take
- 52:30most in this market and they will be the strong #1 and that
- 52:34there will be a distant number 2IN Starlink that will provide
- 52:39some DDD service as well. But then there's very unlikely
- 52:42to be really even a distant #3 or 4 player.
- 52:47Maybe there's some of the link Omni space think it's cobbled
- 52:49together, but I think you're going to have a market structure
- 52:52looks like that looks like that. There's a lot of analogs where
- 52:55there's markets that look like that.
- 52:57And I, I do, you know, it's very important to, when you see the
- 53:01guy that is going to be #1 to appreciate what that can mean
- 53:05for value creation. And I think, you know, as we
- 53:07said before, I increasingly see a path where these guys could
- 53:12with a straight face, say we've got internal milestones where if
- 53:18we hit them, we've got a path to create a trillion dollar
- 53:21company. And that, that type of vision,
- 53:24I, I think is something that a Bell could be sharing with his
- 53:27partners and executives with a straight face, has something to
- 53:30execute upon. And it's, it's really incumbent
- 53:32on us, the investors to do the work, to do the diligence to
- 53:36find companies with that type of opportunity before it's commonly
- 53:40understood. And maybe we're wrong, that
- 53:43would suck. But if we're right and you stick
- 53:46to your conviction and you survive these 40% draw downs,
- 53:49which is the concept we started with, and keep your eye on the
- 53:52ball, the result can be pretty fantastic.
- 53:55And that's really what I hope you know, my contributions to,
- 53:59you know, people who write out on, you know, online with me
- 54:03late at night. My contributions can be to share
- 54:05my work, my path on this so that others can form their own
- 54:09opinions and hopefully increase their conviction through shared
- 54:13work and community to, to ride it out 'cause the stock market
- 54:16will always be volatile. Most people will get knocked out
- 54:20'cause they're tricked by the fall.
- 54:21They think something's wrong. And, and that's how the market
- 54:24makes it so that very few people get rich, which is really, you
- 54:28know, the way it probably should be.
- 54:30So I'll end with that. I'm excited for another week.
- 54:33It's week before Thanksgiving week, So maybe this is when some
- 54:38news gets flushed out because I, I can't imagine that there's a
- 54:42whole lot that's going to happen during Thanksgiving week.
- 54:44But leave it to ASD Space mobile.
- 54:46I'm sure we're going to paint the tape with a bunch of
- 54:48exciting stuff on Friday when retail is bored and eager for
- 54:52news. But you know, there's a real
- 54:54chance that we're going to get shipment of FM 2, which I do
- 54:58believe could be a big excitement for the market.
- 55:01Just a a reminder these guys are executing even though you know,
- 55:05it's a little bit of a delay in terms of the press release we
- 55:09were all expecting based on earlier guidance, but it doesn't
- 55:11mean they were actually delayed. There could be a lot of reasons
- 55:14why they held the satellite back in terms of timing against the
- 55:17launch vehicle, but just market doesn't know that.
- 55:20And so clarification of that through some, some PR, which
- 55:24which again, could be happening in any day, I think would be
- 55:26something to to look forward to. And then also the, the, the
- 55:32comeback of the government and what that might mean for Golden
- 55:36Dome developments is another thing that's really high on my
- 55:38list. I'll end there.
- 55:39Thank you everyone for joining me and I'm looking forward to
- 55:42another exciting week. Bye.
- 55:46Thanks for listening to the AST Space Mobile podcast.
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- 56:02sure to subscribe. Thanks again and I'll see you
- 56:05next time. We're doing something very, very
- 56:11big, and I think with this technology we can really affect
- 56:14billion lives. AFT Space Nobody is the only
- 56:17company that has full technology to deliver cellular broadband
- 56:21connectivity directly from space to do everyday smartphone.
- 56:26People will just basically turn their phone and be seamless,
- 56:29regardless of where you are. We don't want the user even to
- 56:32know that it's connected by satellite.
- 56:35Our role is to bring this into reality, always in partnership
- 56:38with the MMO. Listen, Waffles.