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- 0:01Speaker 1: It's business time, baby.
- 0:03Speaker 2: You are listening to solo monster sounds off. I love you, mama,
- 0:08Speaker 2: monster dude, I want your soul. Woman. You got grown
- 0:14Speaker 2: ass wrestlers in the back going on Twitter.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Come over here? Is that Pet Patterson? You have legs?
- 0:21Speaker 2: Weekend?
- 0:22Speaker 1: I was ninety nine percent positive it was just chessed up.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Now. I have been begging him for a job on
- 0:28Speaker 2: every every platform I can, and I would have know
- 0:30Speaker 2: the region. Why you won't part? Uh? What a weekend
- 0:35Speaker 2: here in New York City. The Knicks won their first
- 0:39Speaker 2: NBA championship since nineteen seventy three, albeit on the road
- 0:43Speaker 2: in San Antonio. But it was madness all over the
- 0:48Speaker 2: city last night, not to mention the World Cup game
- 0:50Speaker 2: over at MetLife Stadium between Brazil and Morocco. And then
- 0:55Speaker 2: today is the Puerto Rican Day Parade. I hear Damian
- 0:59Speaker 2: Priest this is a to be making an appearance. I
- 1:01Speaker 2: think he's I don't want to say he's been there
- 1:03Speaker 2: every year, but I know he's made appearances during the
- 1:05Speaker 2: parade before. So if you are attending, maybe you'll see him.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I'm getting a little case of the fomo. I'm feeling
- 1:14Speaker 2: left out here. I actually heard that it's actually quite fun.
- 1:16Speaker 2: I wish I could attend, but we have other business
- 1:19Speaker 2: to tend to here. Seriously, though, congrats to all the
- 1:22Speaker 2: Knicks fans out there. I am very happy for you.
- 1:25Speaker 2: I know all about long suffering in New York franchises.
- 1:28Speaker 2: And maybe somebody wants to pay the two hundred and
- 1:31Speaker 2: fifty bucks to Dan Housen to have him record a
- 1:33Speaker 2: cameo uncursing the Mets. But honestly, I don't think even
- 1:37Speaker 2: Dan Housen is powerful enough to reverse that curse. Some
- 1:41Speaker 2: things are just beyond his scope, you know. Brian Alvarez
- 1:44Speaker 2: is saying that the Dan Housen Knicks stuff is currently
- 1:49Speaker 2: being put together by TKO and WWE cameras are going
- 1:53Speaker 2: to be at the parade. I believe they're having a
- 1:54Speaker 2: parade on Thursday for the Knicks, and so they're gonna
- 1:57Speaker 2: have cameras there. They're probably gonna put together in Nixon
- 2:00Speaker 2: dan Hausen documentary for YouTube, and he says at least
- 2:04Speaker 2: one New York Nick is confirmed for Saturday Night's Made
- 2:06Speaker 2: event next month, and they're trying to get several more.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Also, the coach trying to get him there.
- 2:12Speaker 2: WWE has already launched if you didn't see, because they've
- 2:14Speaker 2: been plugging it on their social media Nixon Danhausen Championship
- 2:19Speaker 2: merch on WWE Shop and Dan Housen is also going
- 2:23Speaker 2: to be on ESPN either today or Monday, it looks like.
- 2:28Speaker 2: So they're trying to capitalize on this, and you know what,
- 2:31Speaker 2: good for them. That's what they need to do. This
- 2:33Speaker 2: is the way to do it. You know, when he
- 2:34Speaker 2: shows up at MSG next month, I'm expecting a stone
- 2:37Speaker 2: cold level.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Reaction for Dan Housen.
- 2:40Speaker 2: And you know NXT has its deadline show coming up
- 2:42Speaker 2: in San Antonio in December. Maybe they can get him
- 2:46Speaker 2: on there too. He'll get mega heat. This is episode
- 2:49Speaker 2: nine sixty seven of The solomn Monster Sounds Off for Sunday,
- 2:53Speaker 2: June fourteenth, twenty twenty six. I am the solom Monster.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Who else would it be? You know, it was twenty
- 3:02Speaker 2: years ago this week, June seventeenth, two thousand and six,
- 3:07Speaker 2: to be exact, I attended my first Ring of Honors
- 3:10Speaker 2: show live, which happened to be their final show that
- 3:14Speaker 2: they ever did, at the Grand Ballroom at the New
- 3:16Speaker 2: Yorker Hotel. The New Yorker Hotel literally is around the
- 3:19Speaker 2: corner to where they moved, which was the Manhattan Center.
- 3:23Speaker 2: They went to the Grand Ballroom at the Manhattan Center.
- 3:26Speaker 2: That's where WWE used to host Monday Night Raw in
- 3:29Speaker 2: the early days. Those first episodes in nineteen ninety three
- 3:33Speaker 2: of Monday Night Raw were in the Manhattan Center, all
- 3:35Speaker 2: the way up on what I believe is the eighth
- 3:37Speaker 2: floor in the Grand Ballroom. And then eventually with Ring
- 3:43Speaker 2: of Honor, they graduated to the Hammerstein Ballroom, which is
- 3:46Speaker 2: in the same building, but right downstairs on the main
- 3:49Speaker 2: level when you first enter, and so the New Yorker
- 3:51Speaker 2: Hotel literally right around the corner. This was my first show.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I had never been to a Ring of Honor show before.
- 3:57Speaker 2: I had seen some Ring of Honor stuff. I had
- 3:59Speaker 2: heard a lot of good things about being there. They're
- 4:01Speaker 2: doing these shows in New York City. It's like, how
- 4:03Speaker 2: could I not go? So my brother and I we
- 4:05Speaker 2: got tickets and we went and I had a blast,
- 4:09Speaker 2: and I remember I remember a lot about this show.
- 4:12Speaker 2: I remember the first match on that show, So the
- 4:15Speaker 2: first ROH match alive I ever saw. I had Jay
- 4:18Speaker 2: and Mark Brisco taking on Jason Blade. Now I had
- 4:21Speaker 2: to look his name up because I couldn't remember who
- 4:23Speaker 2: he was. But Jason Blade teamed up with Sterling James Keenan,
- 4:28Speaker 2: who's a little busy these days, calling Monday Night Raw
- 4:31Speaker 2: next to Michael Cole and calling Triple A. Prince Nana
- 4:35Speaker 2: was there. He was managing Jimmy Rave at the time,
- 4:39Speaker 2: and Jimmy Rave was just a great heel and the
- 4:41Speaker 2: Grand Ballroom had this giant chandelier over the ring, and
- 4:45Speaker 2: the gimmick with Jimmy on all these shows was then
- 4:48Speaker 2: or back then, was that people would throw toilet paper
- 4:51Speaker 2: at him, and so I imagine hotel management was not
- 4:53Speaker 2: too happy about all that toilet paper getting wrapped around
- 4:56Speaker 2: the chandelier. We actually knocked pieces of it down in
- 5:00Speaker 2: the ring. But it's a damn shame that Jimmy went
- 5:04Speaker 2: out the way he did. At the end of his life,
- 5:06Speaker 2: he had gotten an infection in his arm. First he
- 5:09Speaker 2: had to have his arm amputated, and then I don't
- 5:12Speaker 2: know how many months later it was. It was only
- 5:13Speaker 2: months later he got MRSA and he needed both of
- 5:17Speaker 2: his legs amputated, so all he had left was his
- 5:21Speaker 2: right arm, and then he died I think two months later.
- 5:24Speaker 2: So It's very sad how his life came to an end.
- 5:27Speaker 2: But for a period of time there, Jimmy Rave was
- 5:30Speaker 2: one of the more I would say accomplished entertaining heels
- 5:34Speaker 2: on the independent wrestling scene. And I know he had
- 5:36Speaker 2: a run also in TNA. I don't think that lasted
- 5:39Speaker 2: too long. But then we had this match on this
- 5:42Speaker 2: show here bj Whitmer and Jimmy Jacobs, and they hit
- 5:46Speaker 2: the scariest finish that I have ever seen live Even
- 5:50Speaker 2: to this day, any live event that I've ever been to,
- 5:52Speaker 2: this has to be up.
- 5:53Speaker 1: There as the scariest finish.
- 5:55Speaker 2: And you have Whitmer on the top rope power bombing
- 5:58Speaker 2: him an avalanche power bomb from the ring into the crowd.
- 6:03Speaker 2: He power bombs Jimmy Jacobs over the barricade into the crowd,
- 6:08Speaker 2: and they had a bunch of planted fans there. But that,
- 6:10Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't make it any less scary, Like
- 6:12Speaker 2: in the moment as you're watching it, an inch or
- 6:15Speaker 2: two this way or that way, and that could have
- 6:17Speaker 2: ended up catastrophically bad, right, But that's sort of the
- 6:20Speaker 2: story of pro wrestling, right. An incher two can make
- 6:23Speaker 2: the difference between making the highlight reels or winding up
- 6:26Speaker 2: in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. But
- 6:29Speaker 2: that was a wild I don't remember anything else about
- 6:31Speaker 2: the match except that finish.
- 6:34Speaker 1: You know who else was.
- 6:34Speaker 2: In action on that show, The current general manager of
- 6:37Speaker 2: Monday Night Raw, Adam Pierce. He was wrestling Claudio Castignoli.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Very cool to see the two of them still doing
- 6:44Speaker 2: their thing on TV in twenty twenty six, and they
- 6:47Speaker 2: had an excellent three way in the main event with
- 6:50Speaker 2: Brian Danielson, who was the world champion at the time,
- 6:54Speaker 2: but I don't think his title was on the line
- 6:56Speaker 2: in the mat. I don't believe it was a title match.
- 6:58Speaker 2: It couldn't be because Ken one. But it was Danielson,
- 7:02Speaker 2: Kenta and Samoa Joe. How's that for a three way
- 7:05Speaker 2: main event? Brian Danielson, Samoa Joe and Kenta. I will
- 7:09Speaker 2: never forget Danielson doing a dive out into the crowd
- 7:13Speaker 2: onto like a flip dive out onto Joe and Kenta.
- 7:15Speaker 2: It was right in front of me. I've got a
- 7:17Speaker 2: couple of great photos. I can post them up on
- 7:20Speaker 2: my ex account on Wednesday since that's the anniversary. But
- 7:24Speaker 2: Kenta got his title match a few months later at
- 7:26Speaker 2: Glory by Honor five Night two, which I was also
- 7:30Speaker 2: there for one of the greatest main events I've ever
- 7:32Speaker 2: seen live, and we even got a Bruno Sam Martino
- 7:35Speaker 2: appearance that night. He came to the ring to cut
- 7:38Speaker 2: a promo with the entire If it wasn't the entire roster,
- 7:41Speaker 2: it was most of the roster surrounding the ring outside
- 7:45Speaker 2: just watching and listening and hanging on to every word
- 7:48Speaker 2: that this man was saying. I'm glad I was there
- 7:50Speaker 2: to see it, and Bruno's out there he's saying, you know,
- 7:53Speaker 2: I don't want to take up too much of your
- 7:54Speaker 2: time because I know you've got a lot of great
- 7:56Speaker 2: matches coming up.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Like as if anybody wanted to see.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Rushed out of the ring, you know, like if you
- 8:02Speaker 2: leave the Manhattan Center and literally walked to the corner,
- 8:05Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden is right there, I guess, right across
- 8:09Speaker 2: the street, the place that Bruno sold out more than
- 8:12Speaker 2: any other pro wrestler in history. I mean, he could
- 8:14Speaker 2: have spoken for thirty minutes if he wanted to. I
- 8:17Speaker 2: don't think anybody would have complained. But yeah, I got
- 8:19Speaker 2: a lot of great memories from those early roh dys
- 8:23Speaker 2: again when I started going two thousand and six, two
- 8:25Speaker 2: thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, you know, Homicides,
- 8:29Speaker 2: title Win, and I mean, I can go on and
- 8:31Speaker 2: on about it, but it just it hit me that
- 8:33Speaker 2: this week was the anniversary, the twenty year anniversary of
- 8:38Speaker 2: that first show that I went to. So I just
- 8:40Speaker 2: had to talk about it. I had to say something
- 8:42Speaker 2: about it. Maybe some of you were even at some
- 8:45Speaker 2: of those shows, so you know what I'm talking about.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Just the energy and the vibe back then. It's not
- 8:49Speaker 2: the same now, but man, back then it was something special.
- 8:53Speaker 2: My thanks to everybody who dropped a PayPal don't know
- 8:56Speaker 2: this week. I appreciate it. If you'd like to do so.
- 8:58Speaker 2: The Solomons are at email dot com is the place
- 9:01Speaker 2: to go. You'll see the LINC. It's right there for
- 9:03Speaker 2: you at the top of the page.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Ten dollars or more. We'll get you nickname.
- 9:06Speaker 2: In a shout out, I want to say thank you
- 9:07Speaker 2: to the Portland pop star Paul Hamilton, Paul, thank you
- 9:11Speaker 2: very much, Big b Bryant, Bessera, the Diamond, Dallas Dance Machine,
- 9:16Speaker 2: Harrison's Soap Velvet Revolver, Robert Murray Q the Destroyer for Life,
- 9:23Speaker 2: Brother Big Time Boris Veinman, Raj must see Makwana killshot
- 9:30Speaker 2: Keith Hart and the Chicago Slayer Willie Aiker. Am I
- 9:33Speaker 2: going to see you guys this Friday? Am I going
- 9:35Speaker 2: to see you and Mama iikerd on Friday?
- 9:38Speaker 1: I hope so?
- 9:39Speaker 2: Because House of Glory presents Inferno this Friday Logan Square
- 9:43Speaker 2: Auditorium in Chicago, and for the first time ever, Bang
- 9:48Speaker 2: Bang Ricky Sosa and his Hog debut. He steps into
- 9:51Speaker 2: the ring with the amazing red that is going to
- 9:54Speaker 2: be fucking unbelievable. Nick Nevith was just announced with the
- 9:58Speaker 2: show the man who will be challenging to be possibly
- 10:01Speaker 2: the next TNA World Heavyweight Champion at Slammiversary in just
- 10:05Speaker 2: a few weeks. And with all the rumors swirling about
- 10:08Speaker 2: Mike Santana and his contract possibly coming up next month
- 10:11Speaker 2: in TNA, if he is leaving, they're gonna have to
- 10:14Speaker 2: get that belt off of him. Very very possible that
- 10:17Speaker 2: Nemuth could be walking out of Slammiversary as the new champion.
- 10:20Speaker 2: But first he's making his Hog return and he's going
- 10:24Speaker 2: to be stepping into the ring to take on Charles
- 10:26Speaker 2: Mason for the HOG World Championship. Maybe maybe he wants
- 10:30Speaker 2: to go for some double gold. Mustafa Ali, speaking of TNA,
- 10:35Speaker 2: He's going to be putting his TNA International Championship on
- 10:38Speaker 2: the line against rich Swan Shatzi putting her HOG Women's
- 10:42Speaker 2: title on the line against Steph Delander, and we had
- 10:45Speaker 2: a bunch of other matches planned as well. Limited tickets,
- 10:48Speaker 2: very limited tickets still available Hog Wrestling dot Net. I
- 10:52Speaker 2: will see you guys, some of you anyway in Chicago,
- 10:55Speaker 2: and if you can't be there, live Triller TV is
- 10:59Speaker 2: where you can stream the event. Vince McMahon's legal peril,
- 11:05Speaker 2: let's start there, at least in a public setting, is
- 11:08Speaker 2: now down to one. That would be the ring Boy's lawsuit,
- 11:12Speaker 2: which has him as one of the one of the
- 11:15Speaker 2: many defendants, and that one is likely to end up
- 11:18Speaker 2: the way that all the other ones have or will.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Last week back up a little bit, here came the
- 11:24Speaker 2: news of the WWE shareholder lawsuit trial being canceled. It
- 11:27Speaker 2: was start scheduled to start last Monday, June eighth, and
- 11:31Speaker 2: just a few days before it was pulled from the
- 11:34Speaker 2: calendar and canceled because the two sides were and I
- 11:37Speaker 2: believe they still are in the process of reaching a
- 11:40Speaker 2: settlement agreement in principle. I don't know if a formal
- 11:44Speaker 2: settlement has been approved or reached yet, but if not,
- 11:48Speaker 2: it seems like we're well on our way to that.
- 11:51Speaker 2: So not a done deal just yet, and we're still
- 11:53Speaker 2: waiting to find out about what that's going to look like,
- 11:55Speaker 2: how much money the shareholders will actually get out of it.
- 11:59Speaker 2: They were seeking as much as nine hundred and fifty
- 12:01Speaker 2: million dollars or so in damages plus interest accrude after
- 12:06Speaker 2: alleging that the fix was in with the WWE sale
- 12:09Speaker 2: to Endeavor three years ago, and that McMahon steered the
- 12:13Speaker 2: outcome to his pal, his boy Ari Emmanuel, with the
- 12:17Speaker 2: idea that he would be able to maintain some level
- 12:19Speaker 2: of power in WWE.
- 12:21Speaker 1: And he would have.
- 12:22Speaker 2: He absolutely would have were it not for the Janelle
- 12:25Speaker 2: Grant sex trafficking lawsuit that dropped like an atomic bomb
- 12:29Speaker 2: in January of twenty twenty four, and it started really
- 12:33Speaker 2: with the Wall Street Journal story in twenty twenty two.
- 12:37Speaker 2: I have some news on that here in a little bit,
- 12:39Speaker 2: but the Wall Street Journal story and news of all
- 12:42Speaker 2: the non disclosure agreements with various women and performers over
- 12:46Speaker 2: the years, including one seven and a half million dollar
- 12:49Speaker 2: NDA with a female talent whose name has never been revealed.
- 12:53Speaker 2: But these things, they don't happen, not in these numbers,
- 12:57Speaker 2: unless this man is doing something that he should not
- 13:00Speaker 2: be doing. And there are still people making excuses for
- 13:03Speaker 2: this toxic sludge of a human being. Says a lot
- 13:07Speaker 2: about them. But it was that story that led to
- 13:10Speaker 2: him initially stepping aside until he decided to force his
- 13:12Speaker 2: way back in. Then this lawsuit dropped, and it was
- 13:17Speaker 2: the Janelle Grant suit, and it was very disturbing. Right,
- 13:20Speaker 2: they had a relationship. He got her a job in
- 13:22Speaker 2: the company that she wasn't qualified for. She worked her
- 13:25Speaker 2: way up the ranks in short order, and according to her,
- 13:28Speaker 2: he basically used her as his personal sex toy and
- 13:32Speaker 2: pimped her out to John Laurnidis, who cheated on his
- 13:35Speaker 2: then wife who was being treated for a brain tumor.
- 13:39Speaker 2: These are the men who held positions of power in
- 13:41Speaker 2: WWE at that time. You know, we can complain about
- 13:44Speaker 2: how SOULSS the product feels these days, and high ticket
- 13:47Speaker 2: prices and bad booking and bad creative and boring television
- 13:52Speaker 2: that's a far cry from sexual misconduct and some of
- 13:55Speaker 2: the stuff that was going on behind the scenes at
- 13:57Speaker 2: that time for years, Laura and IDAs didn't even deny it.
- 14:02Speaker 2: He just tried to pass himself off as a victim,
- 14:04Speaker 2: the fucking troll that he is. And Vince stopped paying her.
- 14:10Speaker 2: He was supposed to pay her a certain amount of money.
- 14:12Speaker 2: He stopped paying what he had promised per the NDA
- 14:15Speaker 2: that was signed, and that's what led to her filing
- 14:18Speaker 2: suit and doesn't make her claims any less true, by
- 14:21Speaker 2: the way, I mean, the fact that she filed the
- 14:24Speaker 2: lawsuit because he stopped paying doesn't make them any less
- 14:27Speaker 2: true or false or anything. Those are two completely independent things.
- 14:32Speaker 2: And it was always going to be an uphill climb
- 14:34Speaker 2: for this woman to beat the big, bad billion dollar
- 14:36Speaker 2: chairman in court who has a hell of a lot
- 14:39Speaker 2: more money to burn than she does. But she wanted
- 14:42Speaker 2: to see this go to trial. That's what she kept saying.
- 14:44Speaker 2: She wanted to go to trial. She doesn't want to
- 14:46Speaker 2: go into private arbitration. That's what Vince was arguing for
- 14:49Speaker 2: per the terms of the three million dollar NDA that
- 14:52Speaker 2: was signed. Her position was that the NDA was signed
- 14:56Speaker 2: under duress, and it should be invalidated so that this
- 14:59Speaker 2: could go to trial and everything could be out in
- 15:01Speaker 2: the open and in the public forum. Right, this is
- 15:04Speaker 2: not a criminal case. So even if it was a
- 15:07Speaker 2: criminal case, Vince has friends in very high places. Okay,
- 15:10Speaker 2: birds of a feather flock together. This was never going
- 15:13Speaker 2: to go anywhere anyway. But this is a civil case.
- 15:16Speaker 2: So the worst that could have happened to him and
- 15:18Speaker 2: could still happen to him, is that he would be
- 15:20Speaker 2: on the hook for a lot of money. Then he
- 15:21Speaker 2: would have to pay her. She wanted a trial, He
- 15:25Speaker 2: argued for arbitration, and the judge in the case was
- 15:27Speaker 2: supposed to have made a decision this month about which
- 15:30Speaker 2: one it would be. That was going to be the
- 15:32Speaker 2: single most important decision in this trial. What does the
- 15:35Speaker 2: judge decide, does she have a valid argument to invalidate
- 15:39Speaker 2: the NDA and we go to trial, or does this
- 15:42Speaker 2: go to private arbitration and nobody ever hears about this
- 15:45Speaker 2: ever again? On Thursday, that all changed. Post Wrestling reported
- 15:51Speaker 2: that the plaintiff and the defendant, so Janelle Grant, Vince
- 15:54Speaker 2: McMahon and WWE, filed a joint motion in the US
- 15:59Speaker 2: District Court for the District of Connecticut requesting to continue
- 16:03Speaker 2: their litigation in private arbitration, which is a big one
- 16:07Speaker 2: pint eighty from what Janelle Grant had been asking the
- 16:10Speaker 2: court for, and on Friday, Judge Sarah F. Russell granted
- 16:15Speaker 2: the party's joint motion. The judge is now requiring them
- 16:18Speaker 2: to file a joint status report by July tenth, and
- 16:22Speaker 2: if they have not reached an agreement by that date,
- 16:24Speaker 2: they will have a hearing in August. And Brandon Thurston
- 16:27Speaker 2: says he interprets the word agreement here as referring to
- 16:30Speaker 2: the conditions of moving into arbitration, not necessarily reaching a
- 16:34Speaker 2: settlement of the entire thing. The one paragraph filing states
- 16:39Speaker 2: that the parties are in active discussions regarding a potential
- 16:42Speaker 2: agreement to arbitrate the dispute in confidential arbitration, which would
- 16:47Speaker 2: render the defendant's motion to compel arbitration moot. Filing does
- 16:51Speaker 2: not explain a reason for Grant's change in position regarding
- 16:55Speaker 2: her willingness to take her dispute into a private forum.
- 16:58Speaker 2: An attorney for Grant did not immediately respond to her
- 17:01Speaker 2: request for comment. The parties had been scheduled to attend
- 17:04Speaker 2: a hearing on June sixteenth, that's this Tuesday, to argue
- 17:08Speaker 2: the issue as well as whether Grant would be allowed
- 17:10Speaker 2: to obtain evidence from the defendants in support of her
- 17:13Speaker 2: litigation of the arbitration question. So this is not a settlement,
- 17:18Speaker 2: not yet anyway. This just means that they are taking
- 17:21Speaker 2: this very likely into a private setting with an arbitrator,
- 17:25Speaker 2: and they are not going to go through a public
- 17:27Speaker 2: trial and all the drama that comes with that. It
- 17:31Speaker 2: all started when Vince reneged from what he had promised
- 17:33Speaker 2: to pay her. He paid out one million of the
- 17:35Speaker 2: three million dollars that her NDA stipulated. If he had
- 17:39Speaker 2: done that, if he would have just continued to pay
- 17:41Speaker 2: what he was supposed to pay, we wouldn't even be
- 17:44Speaker 2: talking about this right now. Once he stopped payment, she
- 17:47Speaker 2: sued him, and she claimed that she had no intention
- 17:50Speaker 2: of settling, and that this resignation from WWE, that this
- 17:54Speaker 2: is a so called resignation, which turned out to not
- 17:56Speaker 2: really be all that genuine. But then he came back
- 17:59Speaker 2: and then he sort of resigned again. But his resignation
- 18:02Speaker 2: from WWE was not enough for her. She wanted justice.
- 18:06Speaker 2: What changed all of a sudden, We don't know. I
- 18:09Speaker 2: don't know what her financial arrangement is with her lawyers,
- 18:11Speaker 2: but from what I remember reading, the firm that represents
- 18:15Speaker 2: her typically takes these kinds of cases on a contingent
- 18:18Speaker 2: fee basis, meaning they only get paid if they win
- 18:20Speaker 2: the case or if they reach a settlement, then they
- 18:23Speaker 2: take a percentage of those funds. If she were to
- 18:26Speaker 2: lose this case, she could walk away with nothing. And
- 18:30Speaker 2: even if she doesn't have legal fees to pay off,
- 18:33Speaker 2: and she very well might, she may be broke at
- 18:36Speaker 2: this point for all we know, But I imagine that her
- 18:38Speaker 2: lawyers would probably not be too thrilled about that if
- 18:41Speaker 2: she lost and walked away with nothing. So for Vincent WWE,
- 18:44Speaker 2: a trial would prove to be very embarrassing, right, That's
- 18:47Speaker 2: the reason he fought so hard against it. It's disappointing.
- 18:51Speaker 2: It's disappointing because again, where there's rot to be found,
- 18:55Speaker 2: I think it should be exposed for all the world
- 18:57Speaker 2: to see, right in as public a setting as possible.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And if there are people who deserve to be dragged,
- 19:04Speaker 2: then they should be dragged. She's had a change of heart,
- 19:08Speaker 2: that's her decision, right. It is what it is, but
- 19:12Speaker 2: it is disappointing that she has suddenly had a one
- 19:14Speaker 2: to eighty on this whole thing. What's concerning is that
- 19:17Speaker 2: if this thing is that much closer to being wrapped up,
- 19:21Speaker 2: that makes it more likely that we see Vince McMahon
- 19:24Speaker 2: back in WWE at some point. Remember, Ari Emmanuel had
- 19:29Speaker 2: no issue with Vince McMahon being there, even after all
- 19:31Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal stuff came out in twenty twenty two.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Right, this was a.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Big Wall Street Journal bombshell story and then there were
- 19:38Speaker 2: subsequent stories. Right, his reputation was already tarnished. Didn't stop
- 19:44Speaker 2: Ari from having an issue with Vince want he wanted
- 19:46Speaker 2: him there. It was contingent. The deal, according to Ari
- 19:49Speaker 2: Emmanuel on CNBC, was contingent on Vince being a part
- 19:53Speaker 2: of it. Now, maybe he was playing three DCHSS and
- 19:58Speaker 2: really did not want him there, but he had to
- 20:00Speaker 2: ten that he did to get him to sell the
- 20:01Speaker 2: company to him. Right, We're gonna find out because the
- 20:05Speaker 2: entire reason they got rid of him in the first
- 20:06Speaker 2: place or asked him to step down was because of
- 20:10Speaker 2: this lawsuit. And if this lawsuit suddenly goes away, that
- 20:14Speaker 2: means the one real obstacle to his return goes away
- 20:18Speaker 2: and I put nothing past these people. Right, Bruce is
- 20:21Speaker 2: still there. I always liked what Ronda Rousey said, Right,
- 20:24Speaker 2: so long as Bruce Pritchard is there, Vince mcmahas an
- 20:26Speaker 2: end because Bruce is basically Vince's avatar. Right, once this
- 20:31Speaker 2: all comes to an end, anything is possible. I'm not
- 20:34Speaker 2: saying he's going to be back in charge of Creative.
- 20:36Speaker 2: I'm just saying anything is possible. And that is a
- 20:38Speaker 2: scary thought. Even scarier that there are people out there,
- 20:43Speaker 2: fans and ex talents alike, who want him to come back,
- 20:48Speaker 2: who think that he's the only one who can make
- 20:52Speaker 2: the product great again. Yes, the eighty year old octagenarian
- 20:57Speaker 2: sex pest is the only man who can RESTOREWE to
- 21:01Speaker 2: its former glory, it's past creative glory. If you honestly
- 21:05Speaker 2: believe that, then WWE is doomed. If you think he
- 21:09Speaker 2: is the only savior for this company, they're doomed. Teddy
- 21:14Speaker 2: Long did an interview with TMZ's Inside the Ring podcast
- 21:17Speaker 2: this week, and he talked about the state of wrestling today.
- 21:20Speaker 2: I want to read you just the portion of what
- 21:21Speaker 2: Teddy had to say here, even though it will make
- 21:24Speaker 2: you dumber for having heard it. But I'll read this anyway.
- 21:27Speaker 2: He said, a lot of talent is out there now.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Some guys are doing great, some guys are not. And
- 21:32Speaker 2: it's based on the creative people, the people that are
- 21:34Speaker 2: in charge of what you do out on that TV.
- 21:37Speaker 2: That's how your career is based. You can go out
- 21:40Speaker 2: there and do something one night and it will kill you.
- 21:42Speaker 2: That's kill your whole career. And they know how to
- 21:46Speaker 2: do that to people. A lot of guys that are
- 21:48Speaker 2: in charge don't do it because you can do the job.
- 21:51Speaker 2: They'll mess with you because they got the power. They
- 21:54Speaker 2: know they can. So it's changing a little bit now.
- 21:56Speaker 2: But I think what we gotta do. We got to
- 21:59Speaker 2: get Vince back so we can do this thing right
- 22:02Speaker 2: and get the fans back on board.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 22:06Speaker 2: And on the possibility of Vince returning to wrestling, he
- 22:10Speaker 2: said this, I don't think the chapter has ever closed
- 22:13Speaker 2: with him. Like I said, I don't know what happened
- 22:17Speaker 2: or any of that stuff, but in my knowing him,
- 22:19Speaker 2: wrestling was his life. He loved this, This was his life.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I had a chance to ride on the plane with
- 22:25Speaker 2: him one night, and as soon as we took off.
- 22:27Speaker 2: He talked about wrestling until we landed, and so he
- 22:30Speaker 2: loves this. This is his life. I watched him at
- 22:33Speaker 2: his eightieth birthday party during the rehearsal. They had a
- 22:36Speaker 2: band and some singers there acchoire, and they were rehearsing
- 22:39Speaker 2: before they got ready to go. I saw him and
- 22:42Speaker 2: he had his head set on and Kevin Dunn was there.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Kevin has always been his right hand man. He's looking
- 22:47Speaker 2: at Kevin and saying, Kevin, get him over there. You
- 22:49Speaker 2: know what I mean. He's doing his thing. He's at home.
- 22:52Speaker 2: I looked at him, and I'm like, this is him,
- 22:54Speaker 2: this is what he does. You know, I can understand
- 23:00Speaker 2: being transactional like this person always treated me well. So
- 23:04Speaker 2: therefore they're okay. In my book, they're willing to overlook
- 23:08Speaker 2: certain things because of that. His argument being though I
- 23:12Speaker 2: don't know what happened or any of that stuff is
- 23:15Speaker 2: not a valid argument.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Right, ignorance is not a valid argument.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Just because Vince McMahon did right by Teddy Long does
- 23:23Speaker 2: not mean that it's okay for him to be back
- 23:24Speaker 2: at a position of power over other people. But this
- 23:28Speaker 2: is who we're dealing with here now. He also said
- 23:30Speaker 2: in this interview with TMZ. This again, Teddy Long says,
- 23:33Speaker 2: I went to Vince's birthday. After the birthday party, Vince
- 23:37Speaker 2: gave me this bust of his head.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I have that. We could go see it right now
- 23:42Speaker 1: because I have it in the room over there.
- 23:44Speaker 2: No, he didn't give them out to everyone, but I'm
- 23:46Speaker 2: not the only one that got one. I would consider
- 23:49Speaker 2: that as my prized possession. Vince McMahon giving a bust
- 23:56Speaker 2: of his head to someone is that person's most cherished
- 24:00Speaker 2: possession in the world. Sounds like that's not the only
- 24:05Speaker 2: thing that Teddy's been busting when it comes to Vince McMahon.
- 24:10Speaker 2: But then you have JBL who never met a boot
- 24:13Speaker 2: that he didn't enjoy licking.
- 24:14Speaker 1: The same guy who said.
- 24:16Speaker 2: ESPN should be giving WWE a letter grades in their reviews,
- 24:19Speaker 2: even if they don't actually believe they deserve them. So
- 24:22Speaker 2: he chimed in on his podcast, or technically it's not
- 24:25Speaker 2: even his podcast, it's Bruce Pritchard's podcast, but he chimed
- 24:28Speaker 2: in the other day. I saw this. He was responding
- 24:31Speaker 2: to news of the shareholder's lawsuit heading towards a settlement.
- 24:36Speaker 2: He said, I don't know what the settlement was My
- 24:39Speaker 2: dad used to always tell me a bad settlement is
- 24:41Speaker 2: better than a good lawsuit any day of the week.
- 24:44Speaker 2: And sometimes, you know, I've been around Vince a long time.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Vince just gets out of things.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Does he now do?
- 24:53Speaker 2: Tell us more? John, He said, sometimes it's not worth
- 24:57Speaker 2: the trouble. These lawsuits fishing. Sometimes there's some merit behind them.
- 25:03Speaker 2: I don't know the veracity of any of the claims.
- 25:06Speaker 2: I don't know the merit of the lawsuit itself. I
- 25:08Speaker 2: want you to remember him saying that, Okay, I don't
- 25:11Speaker 2: know the merit of the lawsuit itself, but getting out
- 25:14Speaker 2: of this is a really good thing for TKO. Ron
- 25:17Speaker 2: talking about Ron Simmons and I used to joke that
- 25:20Speaker 2: we would sue the company for a billion dollars and
- 25:22Speaker 2: settle for one hundred thousand just to pay off a house.
- 25:26Speaker 2: That's essentially what these lawyers are doing. They're saying, this
- 25:29Speaker 2: company is worth so much money, let's file a lawsuit,
- 25:32Speaker 2: tie them up in court, and see if we can
- 25:33Speaker 2: get lucky with a settlement. That's all these jackasses are doing.
- 25:37Speaker 2: There are so many lawyers who tie things up in
- 25:40Speaker 2: the corporate world that certainly appears to be what this is.
- 25:43Speaker 2: I just don't see any merit to it whatsoever. I
- 25:46Speaker 2: hope these guys didn't get any money, because this is
- 25:49Speaker 2: such bullshit. I've seen Vince over the years pay people
- 25:52Speaker 2: off when he felt there was no cause whatsoever, just
- 25:55Speaker 2: to get rid of them. I'm not talking about anything serious,
- 25:58Speaker 2: maybe a dispute over a bill or something, just a nuisance.
- 26:01Speaker 2: It's a nuisance fee.
- 26:04Speaker 1: So to rea.
- 26:05Speaker 2: And by the way, in the abstract what he is
- 26:09Speaker 2: saying is not untrue, right. There are a lot of
- 26:10Speaker 2: shyster lawyers out there who will do that sort of thing.
- 26:13Speaker 2: But I would like to recap very quickly for you
- 26:16Speaker 2: that in this one quote, he goes from trying to pretend,
- 26:20Speaker 2: pretend being the keyword, to be unbiased by admitting, well,
- 26:24Speaker 2: you know, I don't know about the veracity of the
- 26:26Speaker 2: claims or the merits of the lawsuit itself. I just
- 26:29Speaker 2: don't know, to a minute later saying that he sees
- 26:35Speaker 2: no merit in it whatsoever and calling it all bullshit. Yeah,
- 26:41Speaker 2: like I get some of the wrestlers from that era
- 26:44Speaker 2: having brain damage all the chair shots to the head
- 26:47Speaker 2: they took right over a period of many years. It's understandable.
- 26:52Speaker 2: You could throw him in there too, But what's Teddy's excuse.
- 26:58Speaker 2: What don't they understand about that this man became a
- 27:01Speaker 2: liability to his own company, to where in when they
- 27:05Speaker 2: had acquired the company TKO Endeavor, they had to put
- 27:09Speaker 2: fine print in their SEC documents talking about what a
- 27:14Speaker 2: liability Vince McMahon was to this company. All these people
- 27:20Speaker 2: who pray for the return of Vince McMahon, it's like
- 27:22Speaker 2: they forgot all the years of slop that he spoon
- 27:25Speaker 2: fed us that or they're stuck at a time warp
- 27:29Speaker 2: and they still think it's the attitude ere This man
- 27:32Speaker 2: is eighty years old. His best days were behind him
- 27:35Speaker 2: ten years ago. We do not need Vince McMahon back.
- 27:40Speaker 2: If TKO ever wanted to replace Paul Levek, or if
- 27:43Speaker 2: you think his creative vision is too boring and safe,
- 27:46Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, but bringing back the old
- 27:49Speaker 2: man that is not the answer. But I do think
- 27:52Speaker 2: it's inevitable that he is going to pop back up
- 27:54Speaker 2: at some point in some capacity. This paves the way
- 27:57Speaker 2: for that. It just feels like it's only matter of
- 28:00Speaker 2: time once he gets this settled once and for all.
- 28:03Speaker 2: The ringboy suit, the past, bad press, None of that's
- 28:07Speaker 2: going to matter to TKO. The only thing that could
- 28:09Speaker 2: hold them back from doing stuff with Vince mcmanagan would
- 28:12Speaker 2: be if the sponsors spoke up, if the sponsors started
- 28:15Speaker 2: to pull out, if the backlash, let's say, on social media,
- 28:18Speaker 2: was so fierce, you know that they tag sponsors and
- 28:22Speaker 2: do all these things. That's the only thing that they
- 28:25Speaker 2: would care about. That's the only thing that would matter
- 28:27Speaker 2: to TKO. If there was some sort of sponsor backlash,
- 28:32Speaker 2: and once this disappears from the public eye or it
- 28:34Speaker 2: gets settled, I doubt very seriously that.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Any of them are gonna care.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Now.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Interestingly, on her Instagram page that she opened a few
- 28:43Speaker 1: months ago, Janelle Grant posted a screenshot from a transcript
- 28:48Speaker 1: of a deposition. There was deposition testimony given by Michelle McKenna,
- 28:53Speaker 1: who was a former member of the WWE Board of Directors,
- 28:56Speaker 1: where McKenna stated that she believes that Nick Cohn was
- 29:00Speaker 1: the person who leaked those anonymous emails to the Wall
- 29:02Speaker 1: Street Journal, which is what put the whole series of
- 29:05Speaker 1: events in motion that ultimately led to the Endeavor purchase
- 29:07Speaker 1: in the formation of TKO. Now that is just one
- 29:11Speaker 1: person's opinion, but that she would say that under oath
- 29:14Speaker 1: in a deposition, there must have been something about him
- 29:16Speaker 1: that would make her think that there was at least
- 29:18Speaker 1: the decent possibility that it was him. But we may
- 29:21Speaker 1: never know for.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Sure who leaked those emails on the coach and bro
- 29:27Speaker 2: Show over on Jonathan Coachman's YouTube channel, Vince Russo let
- 29:32Speaker 2: it slip the other day that Conan has undergone a
- 29:34Speaker 2: double leg amputation. Now, it was first reported back in
- 29:38Speaker 2: March that Conan was in the hospital due to complications
- 29:41Speaker 2: from I want to say diabetes and had one of
- 29:45Speaker 2: his legs amputated, but evidently he had the other one
- 29:47Speaker 2: amputated as well, which is terrible. He spoke with Conan
- 29:51Speaker 2: the other day, Russo said, but he said he was
- 29:53Speaker 2: very weak. He was going through some grueling rehab. Russo
- 29:57Speaker 2: said that in their conversation, Conan revealed that WWE has
- 30:01Speaker 2: paid every cent of his medical bills, and good on
- 30:04Speaker 2: them for doing so. You know, we're probably talking about
- 30:07Speaker 2: medical bills in the millions of dollars at this point,
- 30:10Speaker 2: not thousands, you know, for something like that, a double amputation,
- 30:14Speaker 2: and for him being in the hospital for months on end,
- 30:17Speaker 2: not even counting medications. You know, when people have some
- 30:21Speaker 2: catastrophic accident or they get sick and they need to
- 30:24Speaker 2: be treated, it's always a worry like how much is
- 30:26Speaker 2: this going to cost me? Because even with insurance like
- 30:29Speaker 2: it could end up bankrupting you. So like now, instead
- 30:32Speaker 2: of worrying about getting better, you're sick and you're stressed
- 30:36Speaker 2: about like how am I going to pay for this? Right,
- 30:38Speaker 2: and stress kills. It's bad enough to be sick and
- 30:41Speaker 2: in the hospital and probably stressful enough, but you add
- 30:44Speaker 2: more stress on top of that. Stress is a killer.
- 30:48Speaker 2: Bad enough to go through something like that to begin with,
- 30:50Speaker 2: you shouldn't have to also worry about how or if
- 30:53Speaker 2: you're going to be able to pay for all of it.
- 30:54Speaker 2: So if WWE is stepping in to help him out
- 30:56Speaker 2: on that, I think that's nice to hear he's not
- 30:59Speaker 2: completely divorced from them, of course. I mean, Conan does
- 31:02Speaker 2: work for Triple A, which WWE acquired last year, so
- 31:06Speaker 2: he does work for them, but it's not as if
- 31:08Speaker 2: he suffered an accident on the job, right or in
- 31:11Speaker 2: the ring. They're not exactly obligated to do that, but
- 31:15Speaker 2: best wishes to Conan. I don't know what kind of
- 31:18Speaker 2: influence he has there anymore, creatively with Triple A, Undertaker
- 31:23Speaker 2: seems to be getting all the credit and all the love,
- 31:26Speaker 2: although I do think people need to start putting some
- 31:28Speaker 2: respect on Jeremy Borash's name as well. Conan's had health
- 31:32Speaker 2: issues for years. He had a kidney transplant many years ago.
- 31:36Speaker 2: He needed another one. I don't know if he ever
- 31:39Speaker 2: got it, but I know as of a few years
- 31:41Speaker 2: ago it was reported that he would need another one.
- 31:43Speaker 2: So this is just another and a very long line
- 31:45Speaker 2: of issues that he's had. Cmpunk has been missing from
- 31:50Speaker 2: WWE television since the Raw after WrestleMania, after he lost
- 31:55Speaker 2: the World Heavyweight Championship in that Great Night two main
- 31:58Speaker 2: event against Roman Reigns, and then after Mania he told us,
- 32:02Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to sit around sulking over it.
- 32:04Speaker 2: I'm not going to go on vacation, right, he was
- 32:07Speaker 2: going to stay ready. Evidently that meant off television because
- 32:10Speaker 2: we have not seen him since outside of those gym
- 32:13Speaker 2: photos with him looking all yoked. There was also there
- 32:16Speaker 2: was video too. There's like a little video clip as well.
- 32:19Speaker 2: A lot of people have been talking about CM Punk
- 32:22Speaker 2: speculating about him on you know, social media. He's on
- 32:26Speaker 2: steroids because of you know, a few low resolution photos
- 32:30Speaker 2: that made him look bigger than he really is. Oh,
- 32:33Speaker 2: he must be on the gas now, he's a body guy. Right.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Then this week a Rando account on x posted what
- 32:40Speaker 2: they claimed was a scoop, saying Punk may have been
- 32:44Speaker 2: playing politics behind the scenes with the WrestleMania main event
- 32:48Speaker 2: and didn't get his way, and now he's upset about it,
- 32:51Speaker 2: which has led to some heat backstage between him and
- 32:54Speaker 2: WWE and the powers that be. But wait, he may
- 32:58Speaker 2: have also been asked by t to take a pay cut,
- 33:02Speaker 2: and he's pissed off enough over it that he may
- 33:04Speaker 2: have threatened legal action or even asked for his release,
- 33:09Speaker 2: which is why he's been off TV. But then they also,
- 33:12Speaker 2: in the same breath a caution that there's been some
- 33:15Speaker 2: cold water thrown on this, namely the part about him
- 33:18Speaker 2: asking for his release. See, I think the whole thing
- 33:20Speaker 2: is unbelievable to begin with, just because they're talking about
- 33:23Speaker 2: him threatening legal action and all this stuff when we
- 33:25Speaker 2: know full well Cempunk. You know, he would have just
- 33:28Speaker 2: walked over to Triple H or Nick con He would
- 33:31Speaker 2: have started throwing fists, would he would have lost his
- 33:35Speaker 2: cool because that's what he does. So this report is
- 33:38Speaker 2: already unbelievable. You know, I would like to sit here
- 33:41Speaker 2: and tell you that I'm shocked by how much traction
- 33:44Speaker 2: this nonsense got on social media and how many people
- 33:47Speaker 2: have taken it and ran with it as if it
- 33:48Speaker 2: has any legitimacy to it whatsoever, which it doesn't. It's
- 33:52Speaker 2: all bullshit, made up, bogus grade a factory bullshit. And
- 33:59Speaker 2: I guess because they're hasn't been a lot of real
- 34:01Speaker 2: hard news this week outside the Vince McMahon stuff. People
- 34:04Speaker 2: are bored, and so they saw fit to create their
- 34:06Speaker 2: own news cycle. Fightful Select was forced to look into
- 34:10Speaker 2: this nonsense, and they report that nobody in WWE among
- 34:13Speaker 2: the dozens that Fightful spoke with, have heard that Punk
- 34:17Speaker 2: wanted out of his contract, and no talent that we
- 34:19Speaker 2: heard from believed he was asked to take a pay cut.
- 34:22Speaker 2: One source we spoke to says that he has a
- 34:24Speaker 2: story coming up soon, with new merch being produced and
- 34:27Speaker 2: dates planned for the summer and so. On Thursday, Wressell
- 34:33Speaker 2: Votes Radio reported that one source has told them signs
- 34:36Speaker 2: point to Punk being back on TV on or before
- 34:39Speaker 2: the July sixth episode of Raw, which just so happens
- 34:42Speaker 2: to be taking place in Chicago. Now, this comes with
- 34:46Speaker 2: a report from Dave Meltzer that Punk is expected to
- 34:49Speaker 2: end up on the SmackDown roster upon his return, which
- 34:51Speaker 2: is something that I've been saying since after WrestleMania that
- 34:54Speaker 2: he needs to be on SmackDown.
- 34:55Speaker 1: So that would be a welcome change.
- 34:57Speaker 2: And even if Raw is in Chicago, it's not like
- 35:00Speaker 2: as a Raw guy, right, we haven't seen him appear
- 35:03Speaker 2: on SmackDown before when they're in Chicago. He did so
- 35:06Speaker 2: the night that aj Lee made her return to the company,
- 35:09Speaker 2: so that doesn't mean anything. SmackDown is where Cmpunk should be.
- 35:13Speaker 2: That show could use all the help that it can get.
- 35:15Speaker 2: And if they get back Randy Orton and Drew McIntyre
- 35:18Speaker 2: soon or even just one of them, and Sammy Zane
- 35:22Speaker 2: finally has an interesting story for himself after months of stagnation,
- 35:26Speaker 2: Gunther just got moved over to SmackDown. Rhear Ripley moved
- 35:29Speaker 2: over there after she won the women's title. Finn Balor
- 35:32Speaker 2: just was traded over there, you know. With the influx
- 35:36Speaker 2: of newer faces on the show, and the show moving
- 35:39Speaker 2: back to two hours in a couple of weeks, they
- 35:41Speaker 2: have a real chance to push the reset button on
- 35:44Speaker 2: that Putridge show and make it watchable again. If Fightful
- 35:48Speaker 2: also had a report that said some people within AW
- 35:52Speaker 2: have long believed that bridges between Punk and the company
- 35:55Speaker 2: could eventually be rebuilt, even if he never actually wrestles
- 35:59Speaker 2: there again. The report noted that Punk may not repair
- 36:03Speaker 2: his relationships with everyone in AAW, but asked whether he
- 36:06Speaker 2: had completely burned bridges with the promotion, and the response
- 36:09Speaker 2: was never say never. And then on Friday, Jack Perry
- 36:15Speaker 2: posted an image on his ig story of an album
- 36:18Speaker 2: cover from the album Ape Got Fire by front end
- 36:22Speaker 2: Loader showing a creature torching a bridge. You know what
- 36:28Speaker 2: Jungle Boy doesn't seem to realize is that if in
- 36:30Speaker 2: some bizarro world, Cmpunk ever wanted to go back to
- 36:33Speaker 2: AAW and Tony Khan found out about it, he would
- 36:37Speaker 2: take him back in a heartbeat. If Jack went to
- 36:41Speaker 2: Tony and said, hey, it's either him or me, right,
- 36:43Speaker 2: Jack would be gone so fast, even at Max's speed
- 36:47Speaker 2: in the Jurassic Express Busts, Lucasaurus would not be able
- 36:51Speaker 2: to catch up to him. Okay, that's how fast he
- 36:53Speaker 2: would be gone. But this is all much ado about nothing.
- 36:56Speaker 2: The fact that this was even in the news this
- 36:58Speaker 2: week shows you how slow of a news week it was.
- 37:02Speaker 2: I don't know if Punk disappearing from TV was always
- 37:05Speaker 2: part of the plan or if it happened because creative
- 37:08Speaker 2: changed suddenly, which I mean clearly it did with Gunther
- 37:11Speaker 2: right being shifted over, even though it looked like he
- 37:13Speaker 2: was going after the world title, and then all of
- 37:15Speaker 2: a sudden he's on SmackDown attacking Cody Rhodes. I think
- 37:20Speaker 2: the Randy Orton injury necessitated that it's not the worst
- 37:23Speaker 2: idea to give Punk a little bit of time off,
- 37:26Speaker 2: given that he's forty seven years old and he's been
- 37:28Speaker 2: injured multiple times. Okay, they've been very fortunate that he's
- 37:32Speaker 2: been able to stay healthy recently. Giving him a couple
- 37:35Speaker 2: of months off to recharge the batteries is a wise move,
- 37:38Speaker 2: and then bring him back in time for Summer Slam.
- 37:41Speaker 2: You know, a feud between Punk and Cody is what
- 37:43Speaker 2: I want to see. Maybe it's too soon for Summer Slam.
- 37:47Speaker 2: I don't think it's too soon, But whether it happens
- 37:49Speaker 2: there or not, it's something that needs to be done.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Cody has stagnated. A feud with Punk is just what
- 37:55Speaker 2: he needs. And he did tell Cody back in April
- 37:59Speaker 2: you never know when a title opportunity might fall out
- 38:02Speaker 2: of the sky.
- 38:03Speaker 1: And my first thought was, you know, money in.
- 38:05Speaker 2: The bank, but doesn't have to be money in the bank,
- 38:07Speaker 2: right An opportunity can fall out of the sky in
- 38:10Speaker 2: a multitude of different ways. In fact, there's a tournament
- 38:14Speaker 2: happening right now where the winner gets to choose the
- 38:16Speaker 2: champion that they want a challenge at SummerSlam. And you
- 38:20Speaker 2: might be asking yourself, Solo Monster, Cempunk is not even
- 38:22Speaker 2: in the King of the Ring. What are you talking about.
- 38:25Speaker 2: We'll get to the King of the Ring here in
- 38:27Speaker 2: a second, where there's a will, there's a way. Don't
- 38:30Speaker 2: count that at as a possibility. But let's talk about
- 38:33Speaker 2: Ron smack down here and some of the key stuff
- 38:34Speaker 2: from this week I mentioned Cody Rhads. Cody Rhads and Gunther,
- 38:37Speaker 2: as you know, are going to be having their rematch
- 38:39Speaker 2: very soon, in fact next week this coming Friday, for
- 38:43Speaker 2: the WWE Championship because.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Gunther got fucked over at Clash in Italy.
- 38:47Speaker 2: The referee didn't do his job well and so because
- 38:51Speaker 2: of that, not only does Gunter get a rematch, but
- 38:53Speaker 2: he was given the chance to pick.
- 38:54Speaker 1: The stipulation for said rematch. We found out what that
- 38:57Speaker 1: would be.
- 38:58Speaker 2: This past Friday, Cody Roads will challenge Gunther for the
- 39:01Speaker 2: WWE title commercial free, with Sammy Zain the Last Real
- 39:07Speaker 2: Good Guy as the special guest referee. Now, this is
- 39:11Speaker 2: eight days before Night of Champions and we know the
- 39:14Speaker 2: WWE title is going to be on the line at
- 39:16Speaker 2: Night of Champions because it has to be because Roman
- 39:18Speaker 2: Reigns is not flying to Riot and Cody is front
- 39:20Speaker 2: and center on the event poster, so he's going to
- 39:22Speaker 2: be defending his championship there. The only question is against who.
- 39:27Speaker 2: He's not losing the title to gun Thro on. I
- 39:29Speaker 2: just cannot see him losing the title to gun Through
- 39:31Speaker 2: on Friday. Sammy's Ain being in there. They want you
- 39:34Speaker 2: to believe because the issues of late, the heat that
- 39:37Speaker 2: Cody and Sammy have had, they were in the ring
- 39:39Speaker 2: together on Friday, the most compelling segment, by the way,
- 39:42Speaker 2: on the entire show. Sammy slapped him immediately started apologizing,
- 39:47Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I didn't mean it. Forgive me. I'm sorry,
- 39:49Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then Cody slapped him right back.
- 39:53Speaker 2: And then Sammy went and grabbed the chair. He was
- 39:55Speaker 2: about to bring the chair into the ring, but he
- 39:57Speaker 2: thought better of it. He dropped it and he left.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Right. There's heat between these two, so.
- 40:03Speaker 2: They want you to think, uh oh, right, Cody's belt
- 40:05Speaker 2: is in grave jeopardy. Now it's Sammy's ain't in there
- 40:08Speaker 2: as the referee. I don't know how the finish is
- 40:11Speaker 2: gonna go. I think it's gonna go in such a
- 40:13Speaker 2: way though where we it's kind of left very ambiguous
- 40:17Speaker 2: who the better man is. We're not gonna get a
- 40:19Speaker 2: clear cut, straight winner. I don't believe on Friday. I
- 40:21Speaker 2: do think that all roads likely lead to a triple
- 40:24Speaker 2: threat at Night of Champions with Cody, Sammy, and Gunther.
- 40:28Speaker 1: And I think that would be a good main event
- 40:30Speaker 1: for that show.
- 40:30Speaker 2: That would be a match I would genuinely be looking
- 40:33Speaker 2: forward to because I'm into the Cody and Sammy stuff.
- 40:36Speaker 2: It's kind of weird, like Gunther is almost an afterthought
- 40:38Speaker 2: in all this. They just have not been doing anything
- 40:41Speaker 2: interesting with him lately. But the Cody and Sammy stuff
- 40:44Speaker 2: to me, that's been the most interesting stuff that's been
- 40:46Speaker 2: going on on SmackDown to the point where and I
- 40:50Speaker 2: would not have said this a few months ago. In fact,
- 40:53Speaker 2: when he wrestled and lost to Drew McIntyre at the
- 40:57Speaker 2: Royal Rumble in riodam me to me, that was as
- 41:01Speaker 2: low as he's been since, even like pre bloodline, just
- 41:06Speaker 2: nothing interesting about him, completely, just vanilla bland character with
- 41:13Speaker 2: no real sense of direction. The idea of him being
- 41:16Speaker 2: a world heavyweight champion at that moment, not interested, couldn't
- 41:20Speaker 2: see it. Here we are now six months later, and
- 41:24Speaker 2: the script has flipped, and I feel very differently about
- 41:28Speaker 2: Sammy and that if they wanted to put the title
- 41:31Speaker 2: on Sammy at Night of champions, if they wanted to
- 41:34Speaker 2: put the title on Sammy, it's SummerSlam. I'm on board
- 41:38Speaker 2: with the idea of WWE belting up Sammy's ain right
- 41:42Speaker 2: and again for a brief period of time. He's not
- 41:44Speaker 2: gonna have the championship for very long. I think it
- 41:46Speaker 2: would be a short run. But even a short run,
- 41:49Speaker 2: I'm on board if that's where this is heading. I'm
- 41:53Speaker 2: okay with that. I'm actually more okay with that at
- 41:56Speaker 2: this point than I would be just putting the belt
- 41:58Speaker 2: on Gunther. At least Sammy has an interesting story arc
- 42:02Speaker 2: going on.
- 42:03Speaker 1: He's a heel kind of but not totally right.
- 42:05Speaker 2: He's got his rider die fans, and he's making a
- 42:08Speaker 2: lot of very valid points frankly in these promos about Cody,
- 42:11Speaker 2: not unlike his buddy Kevin Owens when he was feuding
- 42:13Speaker 2: with Cody, he was making a lot of very valid
- 42:15Speaker 2: points too, even though he was the heel in that feud.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Ria Ripley, she's the WWE Women's Champion on SmackDown. She
- 42:24Speaker 2: is out with a knee injury that she suffered in Italy.
- 42:28Speaker 2: It is currently being evaluated. They set a timeline for
- 42:30Speaker 2: her return is going to depend upon how she responds
- 42:33Speaker 2: to treatment. So the last time we saw her in
- 42:36Speaker 2: the ring was against Jade Cargill at Clash in Italy.
- 42:39Speaker 2: They had what I thought was a better match even
- 42:41Speaker 2: than the one they had at WrestleMania. Riha retained after that.
- 42:44Speaker 2: She worked two trios matches with Charlotte Flair and Tiffany
- 42:48Speaker 2: Stratton against Fatal Influence on their European tour. I don't
- 42:51Speaker 2: know how much Rhea did in those matches, but that's
- 42:53Speaker 2: the last time technically that she's been in the ring.
- 42:56Speaker 2: But it sounds like the injury may have happened, maybe
- 42:59Speaker 2: not on the tour, but maybe it happened at Clash
- 43:02Speaker 2: in Italy. But in any event, hopefully it is not
- 43:04Speaker 2: too serious that it would take her out of SummerSlam
- 43:07Speaker 2: or force them to have to strip her of the championship.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Obviously that would suck. It would take a major name
- 43:12Speaker 2: off the table for that pay per view. I'm sure
- 43:14Speaker 2: that's the last thing they want, but that's where things
- 43:17Speaker 2: stand right now. I guess it could go either way.
- 43:19Speaker 2: It's fifty to fifty as far as her ne goes
- 43:22Speaker 2: now false finish. HQ was reporting this week that J. C.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Jane is being considered internally as a potential candidate to
- 43:28Speaker 2: challenge Rya for the championship at SummerSlam, and I'm okay
- 43:32Speaker 2: with that. I mean, that's not a marquee match. Jac
- 43:35Speaker 2: is still very new to the main roster, but jac
- 43:37Speaker 2: is a star on the rise in that division. I
- 43:39Speaker 2: would have no issue with that being the match. There
- 43:41Speaker 2: are bigger matches that they could do for that show
- 43:44Speaker 2: that I would like to see. But if it was
- 43:46Speaker 2: to be rear Ripley against j C. Jane. I think
- 43:49Speaker 2: that would be fine if that was the SmackDown title match.
- 43:53Speaker 2: I mentioned Jade Cargill. Jade Cargill did not have a
- 43:56Speaker 2: good night on Friday. She was part of a four
- 43:59Speaker 2: way Queen of the Ring with Charlotte Flair, Soul Ruka,
- 44:01Speaker 2: and Lyra Valkyria, and we got our first taste of
- 44:05Speaker 2: the eventual singles match between Charlotte and Jade, and God
- 44:08Speaker 2: bless them. I hope that by the time we get
- 44:10Speaker 2: to SummerSlam or whenever that match actually happens, they go
- 44:15Speaker 2: out there and they can have a great match. This
- 44:17Speaker 2: was anything but on Friday, I'm just I'm watching it.
- 44:21Speaker 2: I mean I could point to specific moments and things
- 44:24Speaker 2: that happen. I'll just kind of distill it down to this.
- 44:26Speaker 2: I was watching them to see how they work together,
- 44:29Speaker 2: and it was very clear to me. And this is
- 44:31Speaker 2: a noticeable thing and a lot of Jade matches, but
- 44:34Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it was just more noticeable here. I
- 44:36Speaker 2: didn't notice it as much in the match with Rhea
- 44:38Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, very very tented, very very deliberate,
- 44:42Speaker 2: almost waiting for Charlotte. It looked like to guide her
- 44:44Speaker 2: into what they were supposed to do next, and it
- 44:46Speaker 2: just You're watching this match and it looks like it
- 44:49Speaker 2: looks like they're going through the motions of a playfight.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Right when you watch a wrestling match, you don't want
- 44:55Speaker 2: to be actively thinking like, okay, I could see like
- 44:59Speaker 2: the little thought bubble popping out of their head. What
- 45:01Speaker 2: are we doing next?
- 45:02Speaker 1: You know what's the next spot?
- 45:04Speaker 2: And that was the vibe I was getting from these two,
- 45:06Speaker 2: very slow and very boring and very bad, very bad.
- 45:11Speaker 2: I hope that they can clean that up by the
- 45:14Speaker 2: next time they're in the ring together, because that's a
- 45:16Speaker 2: big match. That's still a big marquee mash, the first
- 45:19Speaker 2: ever singles match with Jade and Charlotte, Right, you could
- 45:22Speaker 2: do that at Summer Slam, but I hope it's a
- 45:23Speaker 2: hell of a lot better than whatever the hell that was.
- 45:25Speaker 2: On Friday, Wressell Votes Radio is reporting that a match
- 45:29Speaker 2: between Jade and Charlotte has been penciled in for SummerSlam.
- 45:36Speaker 1: So where do things stand with the Queen of the Ring?
- 45:38Speaker 1: Charlotte Flair was the lone SmackDown talent to pick up
- 45:42Speaker 1: a win in either tournament this year. That is pathetic.
- 45:49Speaker 1: That is pathetic, But Charlotte Flair moving on was the
- 45:53Speaker 1: right outcome. She will now wrestle Live Morgan on SmackDown
- 45:56Speaker 1: this Friday. In the semi finals. EO Sky is going
- 45:59Speaker 1: to be rest Raquel Rodriguez. I imagine that would be taking
- 46:02Speaker 1: place tomorrow night on RAW. I don't think they've said when,
- 46:06Speaker 1: but let's say it happens tomorrow. So what are we
- 46:09Speaker 1: looking at? We could be.
- 46:09Speaker 2: Looking at Live against Raquel, an all judgment day final,
- 46:13Speaker 2: which I would rather not see. We could be looking
- 46:16Speaker 2: at EO against Live, which I would be fine with.
- 46:21Speaker 2: EO against Charlotte would be even better. I'm thinking Stephanie
- 46:26Speaker 2: Vequier returns this week to cost Live and then they
- 46:29Speaker 2: go off to fight for the Women's title at Night
- 46:31Speaker 2: of Champions. Charlotte meanwhile and EO they battle it out
- 46:34Speaker 2: in the finals. We end up with Queen EO. That's
- 46:38Speaker 2: where I'm thinking this is headed. In the King of
- 46:41Speaker 2: the Ring. The SmackDown sweep was completed on Friday. The
- 46:46Speaker 2: SmackDown burial was completed on Friday. Even more impressive than
- 46:51Speaker 2: the Knicks sweeping the seventy six ers in the Caves
- 46:54Speaker 2: right out of the playoffs this year was the SmackDown
- 46:56Speaker 2: sweep that we saw completed on Friday. Opah, fam he
- 47:00Speaker 2: is gonna get Dominic Mysterio on Raw Tomorrow night. On
- 47:03Speaker 2: the other side of the bracket, we got our first
- 47:05Speaker 2: real upset on Monday, where it looked like Seth Rollins
- 47:08Speaker 2: was a shoe in to not only go to the
- 47:10Speaker 2: semi finals, but to go all the way to the finals.
- 47:13Speaker 2: He got bounced in the opening round against Javan Evans,
- 47:16Speaker 2: Ricky Saints and Tallatanga thanks to bron Breaker and the Vision,
- 47:21Speaker 2: and Javon Evans ends up the beneficiary. He is moving
- 47:24Speaker 2: on to the next round.
- 47:25Speaker 1: I actually like that.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Maybe I should have seen it coming after Breaker failed
- 47:29Speaker 2: to win his match the week before, but I was
- 47:31Speaker 2: still expecting Seth to advance, so when he didn't, I
- 47:35Speaker 2: was surprised. So the only thing left to decide was
- 47:39Speaker 2: who would Javon Evans be facing in the next round
- 47:41Speaker 2: out of jay Usso, La Knight, Royce, Keys and Finn Balor.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Keys and Balor were SmackDown's last hope. That hope was
- 47:50Speaker 2: extinguished when they had the yeat Man Pin La Night
- 47:55Speaker 2: and so jay Usso was moving on.
- 47:57Speaker 1: Not that it was gonna happen anyway.
- 47:59Speaker 2: But if any La Night fans were holding out hope
- 48:01Speaker 2: for an eventual world title run, you gotta give it up.
- 48:05Speaker 2: It's not happening. You gotta let that go. He's on
- 48:09Speaker 2: the wrong side of forty and they don't see him
- 48:11Speaker 2: as world title material. That's just the way it is
- 48:13Speaker 2: and that's not going to change. But they went with
- 48:16Speaker 2: the least appealing of all the available options. Jay Uso
- 48:19Speaker 2: against Javon Evans is of no interest to me. Jay
- 48:23Speaker 2: Uso against Obafemi in the finals is of no interest
- 48:26Speaker 2: to me. Jay Uso winning the Crown is of no
- 48:30Speaker 2: interest to me. Jay Uso challenging Cody Rhoades for the
- 48:34Speaker 2: WWE title at SummerSlam is of no interest to me.
- 48:38Speaker 2: Jay Uso challenging Roman Reigns for the title at SummerSlam
- 48:41Speaker 2: is of even less interest to me based on the
- 48:44Speaker 2: last match they had at SummerSlam. Jay Uso winning another
- 48:48Speaker 2: world title is of no interest to me. Yet, this
- 48:52Speaker 2: is where we are right now, and we could very
- 48:54Speaker 2: well be looking at King Yeat because if brock Lesner
- 48:58Speaker 2: doesn't show up on Wrong Tomorrow Night, he is almost
- 49:01Speaker 2: certainly showing up in Riod to screw Oba out of
- 49:04Speaker 2: a win, and if it's against jay Uso, then that
- 49:08Speaker 2: means Jay wins. Now, as I see it, that's the
- 49:12Speaker 2: only way jay Uso gets to the crown. It would
- 49:15Speaker 2: have to work that path I just laid out. That's
- 49:18Speaker 2: exactly how it would have to go down. If it
- 49:20Speaker 2: goes down that way, then Jay wins. How awful would
- 49:24Speaker 2: that be for Oba Femi to go to the finals
- 49:27Speaker 2: and lose to jay Uso? Right, that would be just terrible. Now,
- 49:33Speaker 2: I'm keeping hope alive that we could end up with
- 49:35Speaker 2: a last minute replacement in the tournament. I went over
- 49:38Speaker 2: this idea last week. I brought it up, the idea
- 49:42Speaker 2: being that you get a last minute replacement if Javon
- 49:47Speaker 2: or Dom or even Oba were to get taken out. Right,
- 49:51Speaker 2: who's to say that brack Lesner doesn't show up tomorrow
- 49:54Speaker 2: to take out Oba before the match with dom even happens.
- 49:57Speaker 2: Dominic mentioned that in an email. Yeah, Dominic, mysterio. I'm
- 50:01Speaker 2: talking about Dominic from Connecticut who sent an email in
- 50:05Speaker 2: Brock returns.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Let's just lay this out.
- 50:07Speaker 2: Brock returns tomorrow night right, a surprise ambush. Maybe he
- 50:13Speaker 2: breaks Oba's arm with a kmora lock. Right. So now, oh,
- 50:16Speaker 2: but he wants to go, he can't go. Medical will
- 50:20Speaker 2: not clear him, and so Dom is of course he's
- 50:23Speaker 2: over the moon. He thinks he's going to the finals,
- 50:25Speaker 2: and Adam Pierce says, you still need to earn your
- 50:27Speaker 2: spot in the finals. I'm going to find a replacement
- 50:29Speaker 2: next week on Roy You're going to face that person.
- 50:31Speaker 2: That person ends up being oh, I don't know, cm Punk,
- 50:36Speaker 2: who beats jay Uso then in the finals chooses Cody
- 50:40Speaker 2: to challenge, which would explain the jump from raw to
- 50:43Speaker 2: smack Down if they do move Punk over to smack
- 50:45Speaker 2: then and we get Cody against Punk at Summer Slim.
- 50:47Speaker 2: That's so what I mentioned before, Like you might look
- 50:50Speaker 2: at Cody and Punk and say how they going to
- 50:51Speaker 2: get there? There's not enough time. No, there is time.
- 50:55Speaker 2: There is if you wanted to do it at Summer Slim,
- 50:57Speaker 2: that's how you do it. And I love that idea, right,
- 50:59Speaker 2: That's the sort of thing I was getting at when
- 51:00Speaker 2: I talked about getting a replacement in there last week.
- 51:03Speaker 2: Whether it's Orton MacIntyre, Punk, there's a few different people
- 51:07Speaker 2: that could be slotted in there who are Mia, right, now,
- 51:11Speaker 2: but you have to imagine they're going to have a
- 51:12Speaker 2: role at SummerSlam. They could still salvage this thing and
- 51:16Speaker 2: give us something unpredictable, give us something fun, but like
- 51:19Speaker 2: a good unpredictable, not unpredictable for the sake of being unpredictable,
- 51:22Speaker 2: but unpredictable in a good way. There's still time. And
- 51:26Speaker 2: with that idea, let's say you went with the broken
- 51:29Speaker 2: arm angle. It puts Oba on ice just long enough
- 51:32Speaker 2: to kill time before the big Summer Slam finale with
- 51:35Speaker 2: brock Lesner, where now Oba has a real reason to
- 51:38Speaker 2: want to kill this guy. He cost him a World
- 51:39Speaker 2: Championship match and he broke his arm. I like it.
- 51:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 51:45Speaker 2: The thing is WWE does not know how to book tournaments.
- 51:48Speaker 2: They generally do a very poor job of it when
- 51:50Speaker 2: it comes to the main roster. The Cruiserweight Classic, the
- 51:53Speaker 2: May Young Classic, the United Kingdom Tournament many years ago,
- 51:56Speaker 2: those were all great. When it comes to the main
- 51:59Speaker 2: roster stuff, they don't know how to do it. They
- 52:02Speaker 2: just don't know how to do it. This would at
- 52:04Speaker 2: least salvage this thing and make things a lot more
- 52:07Speaker 2: interesting heading into SummerSlam.
- 52:10Speaker 1: We have more legal news.
- 52:12Speaker 2: The Department of Justices Antitrust Division has given the greenlight
- 52:16Speaker 2: for Paramount sky Dance to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery for
- 52:20Speaker 2: one hundred eleven billion dollars. This comes from Politico. The decision,
- 52:26Speaker 2: announced on Friday, paved the way for Paramount to combine
- 52:29Speaker 2: with the entertainment and media company behind a vast film
- 52:32Speaker 2: and television studio, CNN and the HBO Max streaming service,
- 52:36Speaker 2: which would be combined with Paramount Plus to create a
- 52:40Speaker 2: new offering boasting about two hundred million subscribers. The deal,
- 52:44Speaker 2: which would upend the Hollywood ecosystem by combining two historic
- 52:48Speaker 2: rival studios, is opposed by many in the entertainment industry,
- 52:51Speaker 2: who feared it could lead to mass layoffs, among other concerns.
- 52:55Speaker 2: After an extensive review, DOJ officials determined the transaction did
- 52:59Speaker 2: not pose a threat to competition and declined to challenge it,
- 53:03Speaker 2: said the people who were granted anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
- 53:07Speaker 2: The department approved the merger without requiring any divestitures, behavioral remedies,
- 53:12Speaker 2: or concessions, according to one person. In a statement, the
- 53:15Speaker 2: Antitrust Division said its eight month review determined based on
- 53:19Speaker 2: the evidence received in its investigation that the transaction is
- 53:22Speaker 2: not likely to result in harm to competition or American consumers,
- 53:26Speaker 2: of course not, and could ultimately increase it by creating
- 53:30Speaker 2: a stronger competitor across streaming, television and film. The Department
- 53:35Speaker 2: said investigators reviewed more than two million documents, conducted hours
- 53:38Speaker 2: of depositions, and worked alongside state attorneys general before reaching
- 53:43Speaker 2: their decision. Now where this is relevant to Pro Wrestling,
- 53:47Speaker 2: which is again just a very minor part of the
- 53:51Speaker 2: impact that this will have. WBD is the media partner
- 53:55Speaker 2: of all Elite Wrestling, Dynamite, and Collision. They err on
- 53:58Speaker 2: TBS and TNA HE respectively, aw programs and pay per
- 54:03Speaker 2: views they stream on HBO Max. So this is a
- 54:06Speaker 2: deal that will affect their future, no doubt about it.
- 54:10Speaker 2: At the end of their current deal, everything is up
- 54:13Speaker 2: in the air as to whether or not their new
- 54:15Speaker 2: bosses are going to want to keep Pro Wrestling on
- 54:17Speaker 2: its properties, and if so, if they would be willing
- 54:20Speaker 2: to pay Tony Kan at least what he is currently
- 54:22Speaker 2: making on their existing deal, if not more, because you
- 54:25Speaker 2: would have to think that Tony is going to want
- 54:27Speaker 2: an increase on their next deal.
- 54:29Speaker 1: He's not going to want it to be flat.
- 54:32Speaker 2: But this is also a company that's going to have
- 54:34Speaker 2: an awful lot of debt to pay off. Are they
- 54:36Speaker 2: going to be willing even if you ignore it, ignore
- 54:38Speaker 2: any relationship that they have with TKO through UFC and
- 54:43Speaker 2: Paramount Plus and all that, are they going to be
- 54:46Speaker 2: willing to go all in on the Sikos and dole
- 54:50Speaker 2: out six or seven hundred million dollars. Wrestling is still
- 54:54Speaker 2: cheaper than a lot of other sports properties, right and
- 54:56Speaker 2: it is year round. You can't ignore that, no offseason,
- 55:00Speaker 2: so that makes it very attractive. But we're not going
- 55:03Speaker 2: to know the answer to that question for a while yet.
- 55:07Speaker 2: That's if the deal even goes through. It probably will.
- 55:11Speaker 2: But I bring this up because even though the DOJ
- 55:13Speaker 2: approved it, they gave it its rubber stamp of approval,
- 55:17Speaker 2: and we all knew they would. We knew this thing
- 55:19Speaker 2: was going to sail right through. That was never really
- 55:21Speaker 2: in doubt. They still have the issue of the California
- 55:23Speaker 2: State Attorney General, this guy Rob Banta. He says that
- 55:27Speaker 2: the deal remains under investigation and he could potentially be
- 55:30Speaker 2: joined by other state attorneys general in trying to block
- 55:34Speaker 2: the deal. And if you don't think that they can
- 55:36Speaker 2: do it. It was only a couple of months ago here
- 55:39Speaker 2: in New York that the state Attorney General, Letitia James,
- 55:43Speaker 2: and seven other state attorneys general were able to get
- 55:47Speaker 2: a court order halting another big media merger between Nextstar
- 55:52Speaker 2: and Tegna. They filed a lawsuit in March to block
- 55:55Speaker 2: the merger. They got a preliminary injunction preventing them merger
- 56:00Speaker 2: from going through until the lawsuit is litigated. So at
- 56:03Speaker 2: the very least they could block this and they could
- 56:06Speaker 2: stall it out for a while. And if they do that,
- 56:10Speaker 2: and frankly, even if they don't, I mean, there's still
- 56:12Speaker 2: the international hurdles that this thing has to go through
- 56:16Speaker 2: with the EU and whatever. I mean, this isn't just
- 56:18Speaker 2: a domestic deal. This has implications all over the globe.
- 56:22Speaker 2: But where it gets interesting is if this deal doesn't
- 56:24Speaker 2: close by the end of September, because they have had
- 56:27Speaker 2: this very aggressive timeline where it's like, we think this
- 56:30Speaker 2: deal could be done by the end of September, Like
- 56:34Speaker 2: that's a very ambitious timeline. If it doesn't get if
- 56:38Speaker 2: it doesn't get done by the end of September, Paramount
- 56:41Speaker 2: has to pay an extra six hundred and twenty seven
- 56:43Speaker 2: million dollars for every three months after that, every quarter
- 56:48Speaker 2: that the deal does not close, it's what they call
- 56:52Speaker 2: a ticking fee. It's tucked away in this deal.
- 56:55Speaker 1: Now.
- 56:56Speaker 2: I know these people have some deep pockets and they
- 56:58Speaker 2: got some Saudi money in there and all that. But
- 57:01Speaker 2: the longer this drags on, it becomes a real question
- 57:04Speaker 2: as to whether it even makes financial sense to do
- 57:07Speaker 2: the deal anymore. I mean, it did make financial sense before.
- 57:11Speaker 2: I mean again, you're talking about a company that has debt.
- 57:14Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have debt on top of debt. None
- 57:17Speaker 2: of this makes any sense. I mean, you understand why
- 57:19Speaker 2: they want all of these properties, but financially, I'm saying
- 57:22Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense. It's gonna make even less
- 57:24Speaker 2: sense though, for every month that ticks by that this
- 57:27Speaker 2: deal does not get done. And this comes from a
- 57:31Speaker 2: post wrestling story on Wednesday. AW is now accusing Ryan
- 57:36Speaker 2: Nemeth of misrepresenting and misleading conduct, and they are seeking
- 57:40Speaker 2: to move the arbitration process in Nemeth's lawsuit to the
- 57:44Speaker 2: state of Florida. I'm gonna read you from the story here.
- 57:47Speaker 2: Despite an agreement to move to arbitration. Last year, AW
- 57:51Speaker 2: and Ryan Nemeth remain at odds with the promotion, petitioning
- 57:54Speaker 2: the court to compel Nemath to arbitrate under the terms
- 57:57Speaker 2: of his previous contract or. AAW performer filed a complaint
- 58:02Speaker 2: in February of twenty twenty five against AW, Tony Kahan
- 58:05Speaker 2: and Phil Brooks CMPUNK in the Superior Court of California,
- 58:10Speaker 2: alleging assault, professional retaliation, and being blacklisted from the industry.
- 58:15Speaker 2: He also accused AEW of breach of contract, breach of
- 58:18Speaker 2: implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing. In April,
- 58:22Speaker 2: Nemath voluntarily dismissed the suit in Los Angeles Superior Court,
- 58:26Speaker 2: agreeing to take the matter to private arbitration. Therefore, AAW
- 58:30Speaker 2: dismissed its own petition in the US District Court of Florida,
- 58:33Speaker 2: where it was seeking to compel Nemuth to private arbitration
- 58:36Speaker 2: per the language of his AAW contract, where matters would
- 58:39Speaker 2: be adjudicated one year later. AAW says that Nemath has
- 58:43Speaker 2: misrepresented and misled them through his conduct. The wrestling company
- 58:47Speaker 2: filed a petition on June fifth in the U S
- 58:51Speaker 2: District Court in the Middle District of Florida to compel
- 58:54Speaker 2: Nemath to arbitrate the dispute at a jam's administrative office
- 58:58Speaker 2: nearest to Duval County, Florida, and be adjudicated under Florida law.
- 59:02Speaker 2: JAMS is a private company designed to help resolve disputes
- 59:06Speaker 2: and arbitrate. It is the company that AW has designated
- 59:11Speaker 2: in its contractual language to settle any disputes. It has
- 59:14Speaker 2: twenty nine locations worldwide. It is based in Irvine, California.
- 59:18Speaker 2: After agreeing to move to arbitration, AW says that Nemath
- 59:22Speaker 2: filed a demand for arbitration with a jam's office in
- 59:25Speaker 2: Orange County, California, and added an assortment of unsupported claims
- 59:30Speaker 2: under California Labor Code. AW states that the California Labor
- 59:34Speaker 2: Code does not apply here because Nemoth was not an
- 59:36Speaker 2: employee and he was classified as an independent contractor. AW
- 59:41Speaker 2: attempted to move the claim to Florida last November, but
- 59:43Speaker 2: on December two, JAMS declined. JAMS presented both sides with
- 59:48Speaker 2: a list of ten potential arbitrators, with six located in California,
- 59:52Speaker 2: three in Florida, and one in New York. The sides
- 59:55Speaker 2: have the option to strike two of the options and
- 59:58Speaker 2: rank the remaining ones in terms of AW argued that
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: the number of California arbitrators favored NEMETS as opposed to
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: the number of options in Florida, and that arbitrating in
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: California is in violation of the express terms of the agreement.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: AW seeks to have the terms of nemetz contract deemed
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: valid and enforceable and to have Nemeth arbitrate his claims
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: that the JAMS administrative offices nearest to Duval County accordingly
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: the arbitration would fall under Florida law. It also wants
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: to prevent NEMETH from prosecuting and arbitration and violation of
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: the agreement, and is seeking reasonable attorneys fees and costs
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: incurred in this proceeding in any other such relief to
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: which the petitioners may be entitled. And in a separate
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: filing on Tuesday of this past week, AW and Tony
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Khan are seeking to seal confidential information related to the
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: three independent contractor agreements that NEMETS signed from twenty twenty
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: one to twenty twenty three. They argue that the agreements
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: contain sensitive, confidential and proprietary information belonging to the petitioners, including,
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: but not limited to, information related to its business practices,
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: internal economic structures, compensation agreements, and intellectual property. This is
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: the same Ryan nemeth who tweeted about CM Punk without
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: naming him, but it was very clear who he was
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: tweeting about the night that Punk returned on Collision. This
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: was months after brawl Out and Punk came back. Remember
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: he got in the ring and he cut that promo
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: and he made that counterfeit Bucks comment. He tweeted that
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: Punk was literally the softest man alive, which he later
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: claimed he tweeted as a heel. See he was in character.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: He's also full of shit. He knew exactly what he
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: was doing when he made that comment. It was almost
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: like he was trying to will a match with Punk
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: into existence. He was trying to start like a social
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: media angle on his own, to try to angle for
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: a match with Punk, which was never gonna happen because
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: Tony kahm barely even used Ryan Nemmoth at the time.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: The last thing he was going to be doing was
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: working with a star like Cmpunk, not that Punk would
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: have allowed it anyway. I mean, he would have just
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: banned him from collision like he was doing everybody else.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: But this is what led to Punk angrily confronting him backstage.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: He was ready to throw down, right, This was like
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: two weeks after they had just brought him back and
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: the guy's ready to throw hands. But at the time
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: I defended Punk in this regard. One of the things
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: that Nemath alleges is that he was ordered to antagonize
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: CM Punk, who did not need a lot of antagonizing
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: back then. I mean, the dude had a hair trigger
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: in that company. If that's true, and there was a
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: person or there were people behind the scenes in AW
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: that were using Ryan Nemmoth as sort of a vehicle
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: to poke the bear and get Punk to lash out
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: so that maybe then they could turn around and fire him.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: Those people should have been fired. We never found out
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: who those people were. Again, if he's telling the truth here,
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: we never did find out who those people were. But
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: if that happened, those people should have been fired, right.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: We can all use our imagination about who those people
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: probably would have been, So there was never any chance
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: of that happening. But still that was a serious allegation
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: that he made. I don't know if Nemth is gonna
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: get anything out of this case, and he was hardly
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: a major player there. But as I said at the time,
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: there are no innocent parties in this story, not Ryan Nemeth,
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: not CM, Punk, not Tony Kahan, not anybody else. I
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: don't think there was a single person, frankly, who came
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: out of this whole fiasco, everybody who got roped into it,
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: who really came out of it looking like, Hey, you
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: know what, this person got a raw deal here. This
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: person is the only one who looks good out of
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: this whole thing. Nobody looked good. Everybody looked terrible. Nemath,
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: by the way, took another veiled shot at Punk a
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: few weeks ago on X after those photos surfaced that
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Punk looking jacked at the gym. He said, I love
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: that straight edge guys, or like, nothing is ever going
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: in my body ever except peds, which I will be
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: putting in my body actually very often now that I
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: do steroids. But of course that does not break my
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: sacred vow. I am more disciplined than you.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: Gee.
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: I wonder who he could be talking about there. I
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: can't wait for Punk to show up on WWE television
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: looking exactly the same size that he was the last
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: time we saw him, which is exactly what I expect,
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: Just so we could be done with this whole Punk
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- 1:05:53Speaker 2: other news and notes, we got the official schedule for
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: Dark Side of the Ring season seven, which kicks off
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: on Vice TV with a double episode on Tuesday, July seventh.
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: I don't have Vice TV, but I will. I will
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: find some way to watch these and resume the reviews
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: that I've done for every season so far. The schedule
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: is as follows. July seventh, Jeff Jarrett Parts one to two,
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: and then July fourteenth is gonna be Jeff Jarrett Part three.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: So what these are It's not just Jeff Jarrett, it's
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: TNA and Jeff Jarrett. They've created a three parter. First
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: two parts are gonna air on Night one, and then
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: every week thereafter there'll be a new episode. Part three
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: will be on the fourteenth of July July, I believe
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: July twenty. First I want to say is Samoa Joe
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: against Necro Butcher. They're gonna have their own episode. They
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: had this one nine minute match on the Indies many
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: years ago, and they're gonna devote an entire forty five
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: minute episode to this. July twenty eighth, Big Boss Men,
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: August fourth, Renegade, Rick Wilson, August eleventh, Paul Orndorf, August eighteenth,
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Missy Hyatt, and August fifteenth, Zach Gowan. I think of
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: all of the ones here, the ones that I'm probably
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: looking forward to the most in terms of my level
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: of interest would be Big Boss Men, because I don't
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: know what's particularly dark other than the fact that he
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: passed away very young. I kind of see that maybe
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: as being similar to the John Tenta episode, So I'm
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: looking forward to that one and the Renegade one. The
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: Renegade one is that is the dark side of the
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: ring story.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: The schedule it says July fourteenth for the Samoa Joe
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: Nekro Butcher one as well. That has to be a typo, though,
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: I'm thinking because I'm pretty sure the only week where
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: they're doing a double episode is week one, and then
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: week three is the fourteenth. That's the part three episode.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: But this says July fourteenth for Samoa, Joe and Necro.
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: Butcher is well, I have to check on that. I'm
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: guessing it's a typo and it's the twenty first, but
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they're skipping July twenty first for
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: some reason. And even more legal news. You know, I
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: may need to get my law degree to keep up
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: with all of this. This is a fall to a
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: story I first brought to you on SoundOff nine fifty seven.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: The head of a New York City preschool was arrested
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: several weeks ago for embezzling nearly three million dollars in
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: tuition and blowing through thousands of dollars on WWE tickets,
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: among other things. We now have an update from the
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: New York Post. The former head of a German immersion
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: preschool in Brooklyn pleaded guilty Thursday to bilking nearly three
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: million dollars in tuition payments and blowing almost all of
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: it on luxury vacations and WWE tickets. Muriel Mizak, forty three,
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: pocketed roughly two point eight million dollars in tuition payments
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: from the kinderhouse in Park Slope Parkslope, Brooklyn. According to
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: a press release from the US Attorney's Office for the
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: Eastern District of New York, Mizak, who pleaded guilty to
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: wire fraud, embezzled the tuition by transferring payments from unassuming
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: parents into her personal accounts. She started the scheme in
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: January twenty twenty two, just two years after she was
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: promoted to director. The disgraced educator burned through the loot,
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: spending more than six hundred thousand dollars on food and entertainment,
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: another three hundred and fifty thousand dollars on tickets to
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: WWE Matt Well, I mean that kind of tracks given
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: these TKO prices three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: what is that three shows that she went to attend.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: She also wasted several hundreds of thousands more on luxury goods,
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: food deliveries, and ride sharing services. A law enforcement source
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: previously told The Post that Mizak splurged on a VIP
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: package to Monday Night Raw and met the pros with
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: her three children. Misak's coworkers eventually raised questions about her
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: high flying lifestyle, which would be impossible to maintain on
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: her forty thousand dollars annual salary. Yeah, apparently, this dopey
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: moron here was also posting about all of her exploits
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: and trips on social media, which kind of tipped some
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: people off. The director, who has dual citizenship in Switzerland,
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: claimed that she was the heir to a wealthy Swiss
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: family in an attempt to explain away her eyebrow raising expenses.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: According to a lawsuit that the school filed against her
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: in December. When Misak's ploy was eventually uncovered in October
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: of last year, the school's principal had to use her
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: personal savings to cover payroll and operational costs. Miszak faces
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: up to six and a half years behind bars on
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: top of paying two point eight million dollars in restitution.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: She could also be deported when she completes her sentence.
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: She originally pleaded not guilty to wire fraud, money laundering,
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: and engaging in monetary transactions in criminally derived property in
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: late March. You know, taking out the trash. You'll love
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: to see it. She should be deported. Let her serve
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: her sentence and then kick her ass out. It's bad
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: enough to steal from a daycare, but to spend it
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: on WWE tickets, especially for this product. I mean, yeah,
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: twenty five thirty years ago, I could see it, but
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: I mean this product. Are you fucking kidding me? The
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: thing that still gets me is the one hundred and
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars she spent on food delivery services. Like again,
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: that's a lot of door dash. She must have had
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: their ruby Gold VIP status. Let's get to your mailbag questions.
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: You can email me the Solam Monster at gmail dot com.
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: Please include your name of where you are from when
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: you write in binder from Milwaukee Today, we talk a
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: lot about tribalism with WWE fans against AW fans. Sometimes
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: it seems a bit over the top with what fans
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: think of one brand over the other. How does this
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: compare to how fans felt about WWE and WCW during
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: the Monday Night War era.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a couple of.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: Questions in the mail bag about tribalism this week, and
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: there was also an interview that Chavo Guerrero gave I
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: think with Gabby af He was on that show.
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: I pulled a quote from it. I just thought it
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: was timely given.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: I got a couple of questions about it, But this
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: is what Chavo said about tribalism among wrestling fans.
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: He said, I don't.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: Understand that why people do that. I get that you
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: have people like who like WWE Moore. They may like
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: AW Moore whatever, but wrestling's wrestling. I don't like when
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: the fans criticize somebody else just because they don't like
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: the brand. If it's a damn good match, I don't
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: care if it was on TNA or New Japan or
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: Triple A, I don't care if it's an indie show.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: If it's a good match, it's a damn good match.
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: And he's right to me, he's not wrong about that.
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: I think it's I think it is very it's kind
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: of it's weird. It's just it's it's just weird and
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: sad and pathetic when people will shit on somebody because oh, well,
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: they're in aw or you know they went to the FED, right.
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: I hear that a lot. They went to the FED.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: You know they're done, and they talk about it in
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: these terms and it just makes them It just makes
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: them sound very unintelligent. Frankly, as far as the tribalism
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: is concerned, oh my god, I mean you talk about
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: the Monday Night War. Let me tell you something, if
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: social media existed back then in the way that it
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: does now, the tribalism would have been as bad, if
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: not worse. So I don't think it's just a product
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: of oh well, it's worse today.
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been so bad. No no, no, no, no, no,
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: no no no.
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: I guarantee you that if social media existed and you
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: had like RSPW and message board forums. But I mean,
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: if we were connected in the way that we're connected today,
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: the tribalism be every bit as bad, if not worse.
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: It was. It was very much the same way back then,
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: even just amongst some of my friends, where you were
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: either WWF or you were WCW. So that's just a
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: small sample size, I can imagine it was like that
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: with a lot of other people. Maybe you had friends
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: who were the same way. They watched RAW, they didn't
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: watch they watched Nitro, they didn't watch RAW. They like WWF,
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: they hated WCW, or vice versa, whatever the case may be.
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: I was always a WWF guy. But I didn't hate WCW.
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: I would tune in because, frankly, there were plenty of
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: episodes of Nitro that were a hell of a lot
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: more exciting than what I was seeing on Monday night
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: raw and flipping back and forth was part of the fun.
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: So I didn't hate WCW in the way that some
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: fans would have hated WCW back then. But you definitely
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: had people who picked a team and they were loyal
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: to one team over the other, and that meant that
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: everybody else on the other side, you know, was the enemy,
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: and it was shit, and it was you know this
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: and that. So I just think the tribalism was there.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: It was always kind of bubbling under the surface. It
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: just wasn't out in the open and the way that
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: it is today because everybody now has a voice in
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: a way that they didn't back then. Everybody has a
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: phone in their pocket that they can pull out at
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: any given moment, and they can tweet, they can post
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: whatever they want to at a moment's notice. There's breaking news,
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: there's a jump, somebody went from this promotion to the other,
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: you know, whatever the case may be. And everybody has
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: to chime in on it immediately, you know, like as
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: soon as it happens, So it would have been very
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: different and.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: Not in a good way. Put it that way.
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: Kevin from Washington, d C. How do you feel about
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: Bubba Ray's idea for Oba Femi at Summer Slam. Oba
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: goes on to win the King of the Ring and
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: then wrestles Lesner on Night one of SummerSlam, then Roman
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: on night two, and he wins both nights and he
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: wins the championship. I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it. I
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: mean Oba, I think Oba is that guy. I mean,
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: my god, you heard the reaction he got on television
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: on Monday's fucking unbelievable. So I wouldn't hate it. But
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: then what's the plan if Oba doesn't beat Bronc on
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: night one? Like if you just think about it in
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: terms of ca Fae, right, is the idea that it
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: would be a number one contenders match? So Brock wins,
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: He then challenges Roman on night two, because if not,
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: then the idea doesn't work, right, You're leaving Roman reigns
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: potentially without a challenger heading into the second biggest show
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: of the year, and Also, I feel like that there's
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: a chance that could backfire. I feel like that there
- 1:16:19Speaker 2: are people who are really supportive of OBA. But being
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, you know it's Brock's hometown, is home state,
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: you don't really know what the reaction is going to be.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: It's probably going to be positive. Are there going to
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: be more people who want Brock to win because they
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: want to see him get the title match on Night two?
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: So I don't know that I would do that, but
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: I still think it's more likely Seth, Rollins and bron
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: Breakers next match ends up being kind of a de
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: facto Number one contenders match, and Rollins wins, and he
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: still gets Roman at Summerslim. He's out of the King
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: of the Ring, but that does not mean that we're
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: not going to get Roman and Seth. I think there's
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: still a very likely possibility we will Adrian from Dallas.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: I really hope Chad Gable gets it's an opportunity for
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: the Intercontinental title at SummerSlam, but to me, it would
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: make more sense for him to go after the US
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: title given his Olympian background. I get that Gable is
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: on Raw, but there's time for a trade or something
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: like it. What are your thoughts. I don't think it's necessary.
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: I mean, just because it's the United States Championship. It's like,
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: you know, who gives a shit. Trick Williams has the
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: belt right now. Putting Gable on there to challenge him
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: for it, to me, doesn't make any sense. Trick's got
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: his own thing going on right now with Carmelo Hayes
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: and Ricky Saints, and you're giving those guys the shaft.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: They have nothing to fight for.
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: If you suddenly move Gable over to SmackDown, it's forced
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: and it fucks over a bunch of people. I don't
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: like that. So having him on raw go after the
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: IC title, I.
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: Think that's the way to go. I think he's in
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: the right place. Carlos from New York.
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: Do you think aw would benefit from putting on a
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: Women's Continental Classic? What stops it from not working other
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: other than injuries? The timing You would almost have to
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: you would have to do it at a completely different
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: point in the year. You can't run two of them
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: at the same time the way that they do them.
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: It would just you would have no time for anything
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: else on the TV shows. So it's like, Okay, when
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: do you do it. When is the best time in
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: the year to do it. Do you do it in
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: the spring? Do you do it in the summer, because
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: you got the owen Hard tournaments right and sometimes the
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: owen it might start in May. Sometimes it might start
- 1:18:27Speaker 2: in June, but the Continental Classic is in December, so
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: you don't want to go right from that into the
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: Women's let's say in January or February.
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: That the timing of it is really going to work.
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: I'm not saying they can't do it at some point.
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: I just think the timing would be the biggest issue
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: that they would have to figure out. Marcus from Wittenberg, Germany.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: If John Moxley ever decides to go back to WWE,
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: what name would he use? Will they keep John Moxley
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: or would they go back to Dean Ambrose. Because of
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: the legacy of the character in regards to the Shield,
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: I think that they should keep John Moxley. It's like
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: bringing back Zach Ryder and letting him go by Matt Cardona.
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: I think at this point he's more established, now more
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: well established as John Moxley, and I think you bring
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: him in as Moxley right, people would know he was
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: part of the Shield as Dean Ambrose, but you don't
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: have to call him Dean Ambrose. I mean people are
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: going to know anyway. Dan from Allentown, Pennsylvania. When I
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: heard that Ludwig Kaiser was bailed out of jail by Gunther,
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: first thing I thought was this is going to end
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: up being used at an angle somehow. So how about this.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: After Americano Kaiser wins the Triple A Mega title, Gunther
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: shows up in Triple A and threatens to take the
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: title and the mask off of him and mentions the
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: fact that he was the one to bail him out
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: when he was in trouble, but Americano never showed any gratitude.
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: I would have Gunther win the title, but just before
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: he's able to rip off the mask, the other Americanos
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: run in for the save. Gunther holds the time for
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: a few months while Americano Kaiser licks his wounds and heals.
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: His bruised ego.
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: Eventually, though, makes a triumphant return and regains the belt
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: from Gunther. So, first of all, no, I would not
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: do that. The idea though, that if Kaiser is going
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: to stay down there for the long term and play
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: out the Elgrande Americano stuff, and he's going to basically
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: be the star baby face in Triple A for I
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: do want, say years to come, but for the foreseeable future.
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: Like I'm not opposed to Gunther at some point making
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: a voyage down to Triple A. Oh my god, m
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: you know, the Undertaker would love to book Gunther. I mean,
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: that's his guy, that's his boy. And so maybe Gunh
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: takes a uh not a sabbatical, he takes an excursion
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: down to Triple A for a little bit and we
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: get some matches with him and Kaiser under the mask.
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: I think that could be fun.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: But Gunther is too big of a piece, He's too
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: important a piece to the main roster to just send
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: him down to Triple A to work for the Mega
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: titler who cares, you know what I mean. Like again,
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to him making an appearance at some
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: point a wrestling Kaiser, but this is this is not
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: the way to go about doing it. It would be
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: beneath him. Yeah, there's no reason for the main roster
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: to lose him for something like this, not for an
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: extended period of time, Like you're talking about putting the
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: belt on him and letting him run with it for
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: a few months, and I'm not sold on that Nick
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: from New Jersey. For a long time, I've had this
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: observation about the final competitors and the royal Rumbles from
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: the mid two thousands to the early twenty tens. Back
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: then there were two world titles as well. I noticed
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: in most of those rumbles, the final or sometimes even
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: the last two stars eliminated also competed in world title
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: matches that year's WrestleMania. In two thousand and five, John
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: Cena oh six, both Randy Orton and Triple H. In
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, Shawn Michaels in two thousand and eight,
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: Triple H in two thousand and nine, Triple H again
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: in twenty ten both Batista and John, and then in
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: twenty twelve Chris Jericho. I always assumed on why this
- 1:22:05Speaker 2: was done was because if there was a botch and
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: the booked winner was accidentally eliminated, the booked runner up
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: would be getting a world title shot of WrestleMania anyway,
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: So no harm, no foul has almost happened during the
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: infamous two thousand and five Rumble finish. Do you know
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: if there has been any behind the scenes confirmation on
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: if this was the actual logic behind these rumble finishes
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: or was this just a massive coincidence. For nearly a decade,
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: there's been no confirmation of this. I've never heard anybody,
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: not Bruce Pritchard or anybody talk about that. Mean, it
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: could be a good question for someone to post to
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: him on his podcast, although I know at some point
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: was it eights. I think it was late two thousands
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: is when he left the company, so he was gone
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: for several years, but like five to eight I think
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: he was still there. I mean, there may have been
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: some logic to it. I just think it probably had
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: more to do with the fact that, you know, they
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: wanted it to come down to some big names, and
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: those big names were likely to be involved in title
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: matches anyway, at WrestleMania, when you have two championships. It
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: was probably just a coincidence that it worked out that way.
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: I don't think it was done where it's like, Okay,
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: if this guy accidentally gets eliminated, at least we got
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: you know, if Shamus accidentally gets eliminated in twenty twelve,
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: well at least Jericho's in there. Like, I don't know
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: that that was the thought process behind it. It may
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: have just been a coincidence, but no, I don't think
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: it's ever been addressed publicly. It's not anything I've even
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: ever thought about, to be honest with you, until you
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: just brought it up. Uh, mister Rod from Alexander City, Alabama.
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: I recently watched the latest MLW anthology on the Extreme Horsemen.
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: Do you remember this group, and if so, do you
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: have any more insight on the short lived faction. I
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: never heard of him before, so I got your question
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: and I had to look them up. Apparently it was
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: a takeoff on the OG four Horsemen. Duh. I mean,
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: obviously the name Horseman is in there, but this group
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: you're talking about, the Extreme Horsemen, they appeared first and
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: Dusty Rhodes had a promotion for a while called Turnbuckle
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: Championship Wrestling TCW, so apparently they appeared there first, and
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: then later on they appeared in MLW with Just Incredible,
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: Simon Diamond, Steve Corino, C. W. Anderson, and Barry Windham
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: and they were managed by JJ Dillon. And I guess
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: the Extreme Horseman name comes from a lot of those guys.
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: Being involved in the old ECW, so that was the
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: first I had heard of them. I had never been
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: made familiar with them before. They were obviously a very
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: short lived group. They didn't last very long, and frankly,
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: any revival of the horseman is going to end up
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: being short lived. That's why there should never again be
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: a four Horsemen. There should never again be an nWo.
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. It's already been done. You're not
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: going to be able to do it better than the
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: og versions, so there's no point in doing it. Like,
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: the worst thing they could have done was put the
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: word horsemen in there. They could have called them anything else.
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: They could have called them horse shit. It still would
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: have been better than horsemen, because you're already drawing comparisons
- 1:25:17Speaker 2: to something that is far superior.
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: I don't know why you.
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: Would do that. Nicholas from Long Island, New York. I
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: can't believe it's been fifteen years since the pro wrestling
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: world lost the great sweet and Sour Larry Sweetey. To me,
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: he is the greatest what if in pro wrestling history,
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: and I loved his work and ring of honor in Shikara.
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: Do you know the reason why WWE did not sign
- 1:25:40Speaker 2: him in two thousand and six. I remember he appeared
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: on Raw as a parody of Nick Hogan when Randy
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: Orton was feuding with Hogan, but nothing ever came from it. Yes,
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: that was the Orton Knows Best skit that they did. God,
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: I had forgotten about that. I missed that, dude. I
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: always said, and a lot of other people have said
- 1:26:00Speaker 2: this too. This is not like I'm the only one
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: who has said this, but it's true. Larry Sweeney he
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: was the closest thing to a modern day Bobby heenan
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: like that guy. He should have made so much money
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: in the business. As far as why WWE didn't sign him,
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: I just think he came along at the wrong time,
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: you know, when he was getting popular on the indies,
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: more so as a manager than an in I mean,
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: he wrestled, but he more so he was popular as
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: a manager than an inn ring talent, I would say,
- 1:26:29Speaker 2: although he did both. But at that time, WWE was
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: phasing out the role of manager. Vince mcmaho Oh, it's
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: an old school thing. He didn't want managers anymore. Maybe
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: you'd have one or two, but like the art of
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: the wrestling manager it was a lost art. He was
- 1:26:43Speaker 2: being phased out. They don't have a lot of managers
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: in WWE today either, right, But it is better now
- 1:26:49Speaker 2: that it was fifteen twenty years ago, especially in AAW.
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: You look at AW right now. My god, he would
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: thrive in AAW. I mean, look at Don Kallis. He's
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: all over these shows, right. That could be Larry Sweeney today.
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: I think he came along ten years too soon, that's
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: what I think. Yeah, he didn't interview that year in six.
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: I don't remember if it was I don't even know
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: if high spots was a thing back then. High spots
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: or are video and maybe it was something else. But
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: he said that he had not been contacted. Somebody asked him,
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: have you been contacted by WWE or TNA, and he
- 1:27:24Speaker 2: said no, No, neither company had contacted him. He had
- 1:27:27Speaker 2: that one, like you said, that one appearance on raws
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: like an extra, but they just weren't interested. And that's
- 1:27:34Speaker 2: a damn shame because again that's a guy who should
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: have gone on to have a lot of fame and
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: fortune in the business and unfortunately didn't work out that way.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: Kennedy from Orlando, Florida, Buy rent or sell on these
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: three cm Punk dream matches, CM Punk against Brett Hart,
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: Cmpunk against Randy Savage or cmpunk against Ricky Steamboat. I
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: gotta go punkin Savage. I gotta buy on punkin Savage.
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: I'm going to rent on punkin Brett and then punkin Steamboat.
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: You get you get no bad matches in this, but
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: I have to rank them in that order. Punk and
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: I have that in common, by the way, Like if
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: you ask me who's your favorite wrestler of all time,
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: it's Brett Hart. But it's a tough It's a tough
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: one because macho Man is right there. Like to me,
- 1:28:26Speaker 2: it's Brett and Savage. Those are the two.
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: And for Punk, clearly.
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: Brett and Savage were his two favorites as well, so
- 1:28:33Speaker 2: we have that in common.
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: John from Staten Island, New York.
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: I'm watching the King of the Ring ninety three final
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: with Brett Hard and Bam Bam Bigelow on the Vault channel,
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: which is one of my favorite matches, and it made
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: me wonder, what's your favorite King of the Ring final
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: and what's your favorite wrestling tournament final? A man of
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: wrestling culture I see is John. I watched it the
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: same day they uploaded that match as well. They just
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: uploaded that the other day to the Vault Brett Hard
- 1:29:02Speaker 2: against Bam Bam Bigelow. You know what, I would say,
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: that's still my favorite just because of the story they
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: told that entire night, that entire pay per view with
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: Brett through the first round the semis into the finals.
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: He's all beat up, the fingers are all taped up.
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: Bam Bam got to buy into the final round, so
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: he was fresh and well rested, and he was the
- 1:29:24Speaker 2: favorite going into it. And kudos to Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan,
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: and Randy Savage. I know Jim Ross has said he
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: never liked working with Randy Savage on commentary because he
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: was just I mean, look, Savage was not a great commentator.
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: There was something about his commentary that I enjoyed. I
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: cannot sit here and tell you that he was a
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: great commentator, and I'm sure working with him maybe wasn't
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: so so easy. So I know, JayR I never really
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: liked working with him, But like I thought that they
- 1:29:49Speaker 2: made a great announced trio that night, and I thought
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: they really helped drive home that story that they were
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: trying to convey As a match, I cannot say that
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: it's as good as Randy Orton against Gunther two years
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: ago in Saudi, Like, even with the botched pinfall in
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: their match that we all thought was leading somewhere and
- 1:30:10Speaker 2: then of course it led to nothing. That objectively, I
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: think just has to be the best wrestling match of
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: all of the King of the Ring Finals is Randy
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: Orton against Gunther. My personal favorite is still Bred against Bambam,
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: but the better match is Randy Orton against Gunther. And
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: I got to give a shout out to one more here.
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: I got to give a shout out to Baron Corbin
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: against Chad Gable in the finals on Raw in twenty nineteen.
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot on Raw to praise from
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, but those two always had good chemistry in
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: the ring together. That was one of the better King
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: of the Ring finals they've ever done.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: It really was, And they got time too.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: That was like a fifteen to twenty minute match, you know,
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: the chaos theory to Corbin, that was a thing of beauty,
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: the tilt to whirl into the end of days. I
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: had been waiting for them to recreate that finish since
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: the finals of the first Dusty Roads Tag Team Classic
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: in NXT, and they did. That's how the match ended.
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: You could see then how good Gable was very frustrating
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: that it took another seven years for them to realize
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: it enough to hopefully give them a real push now.
- 1:31:14Speaker 2: But as far as a wrestling tournament final, I mean, look,
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: there have been a lot of great tournaments over the years,
- 1:31:22Speaker 2: classic ones, the Super j Cup in nineteen ninety four.
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the Cruiserweight Classic that WWE did a
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: decade ago. There's all of those great G one Climax tournaments.
- 1:31:35Speaker 2: For me, I know, I gushed about it on the
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: sound off at the time that twenty sixteen G one
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: final actually the forget the final, the twenty sixteen G
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: one Climax is the greatest tournament that I've ever seen.
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: That's the one that had omega Ocada three. And I
- 1:31:54Speaker 2: flip flop between calling this their best match or the
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: hour long match, which I think was their second match,
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: calling that their best match. At the time, though, I
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: thought this was better than all of their previous matches,
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: and one of the big reasons for it was the
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: length of the match. They had to get this done
- 1:32:09Speaker 2: in under thirty minutes. They had a time limit, so
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: they didn't have a lot of dead time that you
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: would expect early like in a big Ocada match where
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: he takes his sweet time. And I just thought that
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: that third match was fantastic. I think it was like
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: twenty four minutes or something. And that wasn't even the final.
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: The final had Omega against Nito, which was just outstanding.
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: I would put that match against any other tournament final
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: that I have ever seen in any promotion. And I
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: think the one that comes the closest, and this is
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: where it's tough to pick one, is the finals of
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: the men's owen Hart Tournament in aw last year with
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: will Ospray and Hangman Adam Page.
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: Just unbelievable stuff.
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: Like there's a reason they closed that pay per view
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: with that match, even though there was no title on
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: the line. They went too far on the near falls.
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: That's the one thing I did not like about that match.
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: Too many near falls. That's a big epidemic in wrestling
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: these days. But just a fucking awesome match. I mean,
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: you really you can't go wrong with either one of
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: those in my opinion, as the best, you know, Osprey
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: Hangman from last year or the Omega Nito one from
- 1:33:16Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. But good question, So keep emailing me to
- 1:33:21Speaker 2: Solo Monster at gmail dot com.
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: Love hearing from you, guys.
- 1:33:24Speaker 2: Now, I wanted to save this for the end here
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: real quick, I've been on a movie kick lately. I've
- 1:33:30Speaker 2: been to the I've already been to the movies this
- 1:33:32Speaker 2: year in person more than I have in at least
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: fifteen years. And there's a bunch of other great movies
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: coming out this year that I'm looking forward to. I
- 1:33:38Speaker 2: saw this week on Friday, actually before Smackdan, I went
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: to go see Disclosure Day. Everybody was saying, this is
- 1:33:45Speaker 2: Spielberg's best in twenty years, Right, big Steven Spielberg, blockbuster movie,
- 1:33:50Speaker 2: big summer flick. It's got aliens, right, what's not to like?
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: So I went to go see Disclosure Day. Disclosure Day
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: was more of a disappointing day for me because I
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: went into this that I really, I really wanted to
- 1:34:07Speaker 2: love this movie and I barely ended up liking it.
- 1:34:12Speaker 2: And I'm just, I just I'm watching this movie and
- 1:34:14Speaker 2: then it's over and I'm sitting there and I'm like,
- 1:34:15Speaker 2: you know, I saw two indie films last month, back
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: to back that had a combined budget of like barely
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: ten million dollars, both of which were a lot more
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: interesting and a lot more compelling to me. And this
- 1:34:31Speaker 2: movie here costs more than ten times that. Think about that,
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: the budget for this movie to create this movie, not
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: even including the marketing, because then it's up to like
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty million.
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: But the budget for this movie here was more than
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: the combined budget for Obsession and back Rooms. That's one
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: of the problems with Hollywood.
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: You got all these big.
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: Budget blockbusters, and some of them were great, some of
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: them were great, and then you watch a lot of
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: them though, and it's like, man, I don't think they
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: needed to spend this much money on this. I just
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: saw a movie the other day that was made for
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: a hell of a lot less and was a hell
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: of a lot better and didn't have all these big
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: name stars in it and everything. And that's a Hollywood
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: problem these days. But my issue with it is like
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: this movie, it spends so much time getting to the
- 1:35:19Speaker 2: act of disclosure, but when it's over, I'm like, this
- 1:35:24Speaker 2: is basically just your sort of run of the mill
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: enemy of the State. Remember Enemy of the State with
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: Gene Hackman and Will Smith. Your typical Enemy of the
- 1:35:34Speaker 2: State type government thriller where you have one character that's
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: escaping or running away and trying to hide somewhere, and
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: then you do the same thing with the next character,
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: and you do it like three, four, five different times
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: over the course of the movie, and it's just not
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: that interesting. So like all of these like if you
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: saw any of the trailers, you basically saw the entire movie. Like,
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: there really is not much else to it. I will
- 1:36:03Speaker 2: say this, I'm not gonna give away any like spoilers
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: for things that happened, but I guess this is kind
- 1:36:08Speaker 2: of a spoiler for something that's in the movie. There
- 1:36:12Speaker 2: is a there is a wrestling scene in the movie.
- 1:36:14Speaker 2: So imagine, to my surprise, i had not heard about
- 1:36:16Speaker 2: this in advance, and I'm watching this movie and I'm like,
- 1:36:20Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, there's a fucking wrestling scene
- 1:36:23Speaker 2: in this movie. I can't get away from this shit.
- 1:36:26Speaker 2: Then there's like and that was cool, but like then
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: there's another uh. And by the way, there's a couple
- 1:36:30Speaker 2: of aw guys in that match. I won't say who,
- 1:36:33Speaker 2: but like there's another scene in the movie they have
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: like this like CGI looking fox. It's just so obvious
- 1:36:40Speaker 2: that it's CGI. It's like I to the point where
- 1:36:42Speaker 2: I was laughing. I was kind of like giggling to
- 1:36:46Speaker 2: myself like this, really you could find like a real fox.
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: This this looks fucking dumb. But yeah, like it was
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: over and I'm like, man, that's it. I'll tell you
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: what my other issue with the movie was. And this
- 1:37:00Speaker 2: isn't necessarily the fault of like the movie itself.
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: I mean maybe in a way it kind of is.
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: But it's kind of a victim of where we are
- 1:37:07Speaker 2: today in the world where everything is AI in terms
- 1:37:11Speaker 2: of like the videos that you see. You'll see clips
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: on TikTok or ig and stuff like that, and it
- 1:37:16Speaker 2: could be hard to discern what's real and what's not.
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: Like there are videos that will pop up on my
- 1:37:22Speaker 2: feed and I genuinely like sometimes it's obvious and then
- 1:37:26Speaker 2: other times it's like I don't know if this is real.
- 1:37:29Speaker 2: This is the age that we live in now to
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: where you can put a video up of almost anything,
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: and I feel like nothing would shock people anymore because
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: all they would do is be like, oh, that's gotta
- 1:37:38Speaker 2: be AI. Right, even if it's real, they would probably
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: look at it and go, oh, that's AI. So like
- 1:37:44Speaker 2: when they build to the big disclosure at the end
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: of the movie and all this, like you know, confidential
- 1:37:49Speaker 2: footage that's being released and all this other stuff that's
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: kind of the gist of it. I'm like, it didn't
- 1:37:55Speaker 2: hit the way that it probably would have hit twenty
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: years ago or even even ten years years ago, because
- 1:38:02Speaker 2: now it's like this big revelation that's.
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: Going to change the world.
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know what, if something like this
- 1:38:08Speaker 2: were to happen today, I feel like half the world
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: just wouldn't even believe it. They would just chalk it
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: up to being some fake, phony AI video. So it's
- 1:38:16Speaker 2: like I'm sitting there going, what's the big deal? You
- 1:38:20Speaker 2: know what I mean, It's just that's just the product
- 1:38:22Speaker 2: of the way the world is now. Unfortunately, so I
- 1:38:25Speaker 2: don't know this just it didn't work. It didn't work.
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: And if this is supposedly Spielberg's best in twenty years,
- 1:38:31Speaker 2: it's like a return to form for the great Steven Spielberg, right,
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: and he is I mean, look at look at his
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: body of work. My God, you know, get Jaws in
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: Jurassic Park and Shindler's List and on and on, and
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: if this is a return to form for Steven Spielberg,
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: then I'm sorry to say the magic is gone et
- 1:38:51Speaker 2: this is not anyway. I think I gave it a
- 1:38:56Speaker 2: star rating on my letterbox to count. You can follow
- 1:38:58Speaker 2: me on letterbox at the solemn there is my handle
- 1:39:00Speaker 2: on there. I'm seeing Toy Story this week. I'm very
- 1:39:04Speaker 2: much looking forward to this. Actually, I've never seen a
- 1:39:07Speaker 2: bad Toy Story movie. Now, you could say, oh, they
- 1:39:10Speaker 2: should have stopped after the second one or the third one. Look,
- 1:39:14Speaker 2: I kind of felt the same way. And then I
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: saw the fourth one and I said, fuck, this is
- 1:39:18Speaker 2: a great movie. So it's like, hey, as long as
- 1:39:21Speaker 2: they have a great concept for these movies, you know,
- 1:39:24Speaker 2: go ahead, keep making Toy Story. It's not like they're
- 1:39:26Speaker 2: coming out every year with a new Toy Story. I
- 1:39:28Speaker 2: think it's been how long has it been seven eight
- 1:39:31Speaker 2: years since the last one? I know, for like at
- 1:39:36Speaker 2: one point there was a gap of like over a
- 1:39:38Speaker 2: decade between the two of the Toy Story movies. Like, hey,
- 1:39:41Speaker 2: as long as they can come up with a really cool,
- 1:39:44Speaker 2: fun concept or idea for it. It's not like the
- 1:39:47Speaker 2: characters have to age necessarily, although I think they probably.
- 1:39:51Speaker 2: I think they aged Woody in this one, and I
- 1:39:52Speaker 2: saw some still shot of Woody with a bald spot.
- 1:39:56Speaker 2: But I'm looking forward to this and then after that.
- 1:39:59Speaker 2: I don't know that there's anything after that for a while.
- 1:40:02Speaker 2: I don't think I have any movies on my watch
- 1:40:04Speaker 2: list until the end of Oak Street, the JJ Abrams
- 1:40:07Speaker 2: movie in August.
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:40:09Speaker 2: I mean, they have these trailers out for The Odyssey,
- 1:40:12Speaker 2: this big epic movie that's coming out next month on
- 1:40:15Speaker 2: the seventeenth. I don't know. I'm kind of in between
- 1:40:17Speaker 2: on that. I don't know if I should see it
- 1:40:19Speaker 2: or not. I know they both have Ann Hathaway in it.
- 1:40:23Speaker 2: Ann Hathaway is in The Odyssey, and then Anne Hathaway
- 1:40:25Speaker 2: is one of the stars in the end of Oak Street.
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: Hollywood just recycles the same actors over and over again.
- 1:40:30Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed that? Anyway, I'm gonna be back
- 1:40:33Speaker 2: with you next Sunday. That will be for episode nine
- 1:40:36Speaker 2: sixty eight of the sound Off. We will have our
- 1:40:40Speaker 2: own disclosure of all the new wrestling news of the
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: week next week. This week just be aware. We have
- 1:40:44Speaker 2: the Raw post show on YouTube. Monday night. Tuesday a
- 1:40:47Speaker 2: brand new episode drops of The Uncrowned Wrestling Show. Can
- 1:40:51Speaker 2: find that on the Ariel Hellwanie Show feed wherever you
- 1:40:54Speaker 2: get your podcast from, and then Tuesday night a brand
- 1:40:58Speaker 2: new episode of Tuesday Night Titans over on JD's channel.
- 1:41:02Speaker 2: I am very happy that the Knicks wrapped up this
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: championship last night because otherwise Game six would have been back.
- 1:41:09Speaker 2: It would have been back at the Garden, which would
- 1:41:10Speaker 2: have been cool, but it would have been on Tuesday night,
- 1:41:13Speaker 2: which would have been death. So thankfully we avoid that.
- 1:41:17Speaker 2: Wednesday night is the Dynamite Post show on YouTube. There
- 1:41:21Speaker 2: will be no SmackDown post show this week. I will
- 1:41:23Speaker 2: be in Chicago for a House of Glory and there
- 1:41:25Speaker 2: is a big WWE title match happening on Friday, so
- 1:41:28Speaker 2: I will save my thoughts on SmackDown for the sound
- 1:41:31Speaker 2: off next week.
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: That's how we'll we'll do that. So until then, be well.
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: Stay safe, have yourselves a great rest of your week,
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: Stay cool wherever you are. Had to turn the AC
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: off to record this show, and it's eighty five degrees outside,
- 1:41:45Speaker 2: so I am sweat and bullets right now I'm going
- 1:41:48Speaker 2: to get out of here. I will see you back
- 1:41:50Speaker 2: here for nine to sixty eight next Sunday. Until then,
- 1:41:53Speaker 2: take care, guys. The solo monster sounds off actually, and
- 1:41:57Speaker 2: they threw him a bone a few weeks ago. They
- 1:41:59Speaker 2: were in his home Kun for you get a really
- 1:42:00Speaker 2: good match in Spain. It's like I said at the time,
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: I said, it's like the old toy that they take
- 1:42:04Speaker 2: off the shelf and they kind of, you know, they
- 1:42:07Speaker 2: blow the dust off fucking toy. Story five is coming
- 1:42:09Speaker 2: out next week. It's like opening the toy chest. Oh, okay,
- 1:42:12Speaker 2: who do we got in here? A we have Axiom
- 1:42:13Speaker 2: in here. We haven't used Axiom in a while. I
- 1:42:15Speaker 2: forgot I even had him in there. And you pull
- 1:42:17Speaker 2: him out of the toy chest and he's kind of
- 1:42:19Speaker 2: dented and he's all fucked up and stuff. But like
- 1:42:21Speaker 2: you play with him for a little bit and then
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: you throw him back in there, you close the lid,
- 1:42:24Speaker 2: and you don't think.
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: Of him again for another nine months. That's Axiom.
- 1:42:27Speaker 2: There's so many people that you can use that analogy
- 1:42:29Speaker 2: for on this show. But that's the case with Axiom,
- 1:42:31Speaker 2: and that's the case of Ray Phoenix. The solom Monster
- 1:42:34Speaker 2: sounds off bringing you the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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