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- 0:00Tough subject today. What happens when you get close
- 0:04to a narcissist? Like when you get closer to a
- 0:07narcissist, when y'all fall in love, when y'all are making
- 0:10plans for the future? What happens when you get close
- 0:13to them intimately? When you get close to them
- 0:16physically? What happens in the mind of a
- 0:18narcissist? That's what we're talking about
- 0:20today, y'all. If you're new here, my name is
- 0:22Lee Hammock. I'm a diagnosed narcissist.
- 0:24And welcome to another episode of The Narcissist Code.
- 0:26Let's get it. Welcome back, folks.
- 0:45Welcome back. Welcome back.
- 0:47Yes. What happens when you get close
- 0:51to that narcissistic person? What happens that, you know, I
- 0:55said it's a lot of people. Y'all, and I tell this to a lot
- 0:58of people, like the closer you get to a narcissist, typically,
- 1:05notice I said typically, typically the further they push
- 1:10you away. That's typically how it goes.
- 1:13Now, there are a lot of narcissists out there who allow
- 1:17you to get close to them to a certain extent.
- 1:20I don't think most people, and this is very y'all can try to
- 1:24correct me if I'm wrong, right? Most people will never, ever see
- 1:28the true, real, true, authentic version of that narcissistic
- 1:32person. I just don't believe that to be
- 1:34true, right? You know, I know people going to
- 1:35say, well, Lee, I saw the evil in their heart.
- 1:37I saw this. I saw that.
- 1:38Yeah. But it's not the 100% true to
- 1:41earth person that they are, right?
- 1:44They can be evil at times. Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:46But they could be good at times too, right?
- 1:48They could be a mix, you know what I mean?
- 1:50There could be a mixture of good and evil, whatever the case may
- 1:53be, right? There could be a mixture of that
- 1:55type of stuff that comes up, but most people I don't think will
- 1:59see the actual version of that narcissist.
- 2:01Like we'll see the real version of this narcissistic person.
- 2:03It just it just typically doesn't work that way.
- 2:06Right. So narcissist and it's going to
- 2:08sound crazy. Let me go and preface this right
- 2:10here. And y'all just before I go, I'm
- 2:12starting a since y'all like my rant bubbles instead of the
- 2:15morning episodes, which don't do well, I'm going to do night
- 2:18rants. I'm going to start ranting that
- 2:20night about some things. Y'all, y'all see the rant
- 2:21bubbles I have I'm going to start my night rants.
- 2:24It's like rant bubbles. Oh, I'm gonna be going off on
- 2:27everything. Oh yes, I'll be want to talk
- 2:29about everything anyway. But yeah, narcissist want people
- 2:34to be close to them, right? I want love, y'all.
- 2:36It's gonna sound crazy, this hair.
- 2:37I want love. I want people to love me.
- 2:40I want people to love me for me. I want people to love me and
- 2:43cherish me and hold me close. Sound like a song, don't it?
- 2:48Love me, cherish me, hold me close, but I want that.
- 2:55But the backside of it is the backwards part of it is I want
- 2:59to be held close, but at the same time, I don't want people
- 3:04to get too close to me because too, when you get too close to
- 3:06me, you can hurt me. So the closer you get to a
- 3:10narcissist, typically the further they push you away.
- 3:15They don't let, they don't fully let you go.
- 3:16Now, the way I describe it is they push you away, but they
- 3:20grab you by the collar. So it's like this, they're
- 3:23pushing you away, they're extending their arm, pushing you
- 3:26away, but they're grabbing you by the collar.
- 3:28So you don't fully, you know, they're grabbing you by the
- 3:30collar so you don't fully get away from them.
- 3:33They push you away, get away from me, but they're grabbing
- 3:36you by the collar, they grabbing you by the collar so you don't
- 3:39fully get away from them, right? That's just the way it goes
- 3:43right there. So as you're as you're
- 3:45progressing forward and as you're trying to understand what
- 3:47you're going through and who you're dealing with, this is
- 3:49kind of what you have to this is this can be helpful to
- 3:52understand, right? This can be helpful information
- 3:55to have because the more you're dealing with a narcissist or a
- 3:58toxic person or whoever the hell you're dealing with, this is
- 4:01what you have to understand. This is this is who they are.
- 4:03Y'all, Let's keep it hot and ready like a Little Caesar's
- 4:05pizza. Let's keep it hot and ready
- 4:09because this is the way it's going to go.
- 4:11This is the way. This is what you're up against.
- 4:12You're up against a toxic narcissistic person who wants
- 4:15love, but it's also simultaneously afraid of it at
- 4:17the same time. That's the toxic narcissistic
- 4:20person wants love, but it's also scared of it at the same time.
- 4:24They want, they want you to love them.
- 4:26They want you to care about them, but they think if you get
- 4:28too close to me, if you see beneath the shield, you see
- 4:31beneath the sheath, you going to be able to hurt me.
- 4:34I don't want you to be able to hurt, be able to hurt me.
- 4:35I've been hurt too much before, so I don't want to allow anybody
- 4:39else the ability to hurt me again.
- 4:41And that's not fair to you because you didn't hurt me.
- 4:45You didn't hurt me. I was already hurt.
- 4:46I came into the relationship hurt.
- 4:48I came into the relationship already hurt.
- 4:51I did. You didn't hurt me.
- 4:55I might have made it seem like you hurt me, but you didn't hurt
- 4:58me. You didn't deserve what's
- 4:59happening to you didn't deserve what's what you're going
- 5:01through, right? You didn't deserve the stuff
- 5:04that I put you through. I'm going to make it seem like
- 5:06you did because that's how I get it.
- 5:07That's how I make myself feel better about the situation.
- 5:10But I know deep down that you absolutely did not deserve what
- 5:14you were going through. It just does not work that way.
- 5:16You know what I mean? So the more you're done with a
- 5:20narcissistic person, this is what you have to understand that
- 5:23this is who they're going to be. They like they're afraid of
- 5:25emotional intimacy. They're afraid of it.
- 5:28Like I want it. I crave it.
- 5:30I get jealous. Look, I get jealous when I see
- 5:33other people in love. I get jealous when I see other
- 5:36people holding hands and things like that.
- 5:37Getting emotionally close, being emotionally, being able to be
- 5:40emotionally vulnerable with people.
- 5:42I get, I get jealous as hell of that.
- 5:45I really, really do, right? So in a lot of these
- 5:48circumstances, this is what I have to go through.
- 5:49This is what I have to deal with.
- 5:51You know what I mean? Like this is the type of stuff
- 5:53that we have to understand. That was uneven.
- 5:55Y'all let me go and hear my stuff.
- 5:56Uneven. Goodness gracious, I knew.
- 6:01I knew y'all. I knew y'all didn't like me.
- 6:07Now, I appreciate every single one of y'all, but this is what
- 6:11happens, y'all. But leave, OK, leave.
- 6:12We understand that. But but what?
- 6:15Why? But how?
- 6:16How do they know when to start pushing us away?
- 6:19Why do they start pushing us away?
- 6:20How do they know when we've gotten too close?
- 6:23I'm glad you asked. So I do have a course.
- 6:26I do have a mini course available, right?
- 6:27It's called understanding the Seven Stages of a Narcissistic
- 6:31Relationship. And one of these stages in there
- 6:34is called fracturing. Yep, one of these stages of a
- 6:38narcissistic relationship, it's called fracturing.
- 6:40It's when a relationship with a narcissist fractures, right?
- 6:43It's when it actually, it's why they start looking at you
- 6:46differently. It's why they start holding you
- 6:47to a different account. It's why they started looking
- 6:49down on you. It's why they start pushing away
- 6:51like they hold you in high esteem.
- 6:53They want to share the world with you.
- 6:54They want to give you all the love, care and affection that
- 6:57you can that, that that you are seeking, right?
- 7:00They want to give it all to you. But always a but isn't it always
- 7:04a big old butt? But they get afraid.
- 7:07But if something happens in their minds, they, they see a
- 7:10flaw in you like they see a flaw in you that makes them afraid.
- 7:14Well, lady, damn it. What?
- 7:16How can I get rid of that flaw? How can I make the flaw go away?
- 7:19You can't. We're old.
- 7:22We're old. We're all flawed people.
- 7:26And when I say that, do not take offense to that.
- 7:29I'm not trying to offend you. We are all flawed in some way,
- 7:33shape or form. Your flaw could be something as
- 7:36simple as you say in the word no to them.
- 7:38Your flaw could be something as simple as you set in a boundary
- 7:42or making them feel rejected, even though that's not your
- 7:44intent. Intent, impact over intent.
- 7:47You know what I mean? Your flaw could be something
- 7:50like that. So it's something to consider,
- 7:52it's something to think about. It's something to get that get
- 7:54to get the wheels in your head turning right.
- 7:58And you can find all my courses in my support groups and
- 8:00everything y'all at mentalillness.net, Mental
- 8:03illness.net. Y'all see my name on my channel,
- 8:05mental illness.net or it's in the description of every video.
- 8:08But that's the way it goes though, y'all.
- 8:11This really is the way it goes. I I appreciate every single one
- 8:13of y'all. But like, soon as your flaws
- 8:15start the show, they get afraid of you.
- 8:21They get afraid of you believe why they I don't want them to be
- 8:24afraid of me. What can I do to change that?
- 8:26Yo, you are a human being. You're a human being.
- 8:30You're a beautiful person inside and out.
- 8:33There's nothing you can do to change how they look at you.
- 8:35Once they look at you in a certain type of way.
- 8:37There's nothing you can do to make them change the way that
- 8:39they look at you. You can try hard as hell, y'all.
- 8:41And it's not me trying to say the relationship is over.
- 8:44The it's just the, the it's just everything has changed.
- 8:48It really, it really does mean that it just means everything
- 8:50has changed. There's nothing you can do to
- 8:53get to that point right here, y'all.
- 8:55When you're dealing with a narcissist like the the
- 8:58narcissist, I call it a narcissistic equation, right?
- 9:00U plus them equals end result equals narcissistic abuse,
- 9:05right? No matter what you do on the
- 9:08left side of the equation. If you're writing from left to
- 9:10right, no matter what you do on the left side of the equation,
- 9:14the equals the, the stuff on the right side, the things, the
- 9:17stuff on the other side of the equal sign do not change you.
- 9:21Whatever you do plus them, whatever they do equals
- 9:24narcissistic abuse, equals suffering, equals pain.
- 9:28No matter what you do, you cannot change what comes on the
- 9:31right side of the equal sign. You cannot do that.
- 9:36Everything on the left side, you can change anything.
- 9:39It's always going to be the same on the right side of the
- 9:41equation. Nothing changes on the right
- 9:42side of the equal sign. 1 + 1 is always going to equal 2 unless
- 9:47you unless you 1 * 1 = 2. You wait.
- 9:51Just like unless you Terrence how whatever, apparently
- 9:54whatever you got going on and whatnot.
- 9:56But yeah, that's the equation. That's the narcissistic
- 9:59equation. No matter what you do, it's
- 10:01always going to be is always going to the end result will
- 10:03always be the same. No matter what variables you put
- 10:06on the left side of the equation, the end result is
- 10:08always going to be the same. It might take longer to get
- 10:11there because you're adding more variables on the left side, but
- 10:14the end result is always going to be the same.
- 10:17We'll leave. This sound like a we'll leave.
- 10:18So you leave. Do you have a mathematical
- 10:20background? Well, yeah, yes, I actually,
- 10:24well, yes, I actually do have a mathematical background.
- 10:27I have a degree in in industrial engineering from North Carolina
- 10:32Agricultural, Agricultural and Technical State University.
- 10:35So NCA and T Aggie pride. I do have a degree in
- 10:39engineering and I just gave you all the narcissistic equation.
- 10:42So shout out to A&T, shout out to oh, there it is.
- 10:48I was looking for a shout out to A&T, shout out to alma mater A&T
- 10:53State University, shout out to A&T and whatnot.
- 10:56But yeah, y'all, no matter what you do, the end result was
- 10:59always going to be the same. That's why I call it the
- 11:01narcissistic equation. I'm going to do it.
- 11:02I'm going to do a video network. They'll be fired over it, y'all.
- 11:05I know I don't just believe I was mine.
- 11:07I blew mine. I got they came off the top of
- 11:09my head. They came off the top of my
- 11:11head. It really did now.
- 11:15But seriously, man, I want love. They want to be loved, y'all,
- 11:19but they always, they're almost always going to push it away.
- 11:21It's always going to be pushed away.
- 11:22And it's crazy and it sucks because I'm not.
- 11:25I don't think every single narcissist out there intends to
- 11:28be bad, intends to be horrible, intends to be abusive.
- 11:31I don't think that's the intent, but the impact is what matters,
- 11:34right? Actually, I have a shirt on my,
- 11:37on my shop called impact over intent.
- 11:39And that's literally what it means.
- 11:41It's like no matter what the intent is, what's the impact?
- 11:44No matter what the intent is, what's the impact?
- 11:47What's the end result, right? I know you didn't intend to do
- 11:49this, but what's the impact? You did impact me.
- 11:52I know you didn't intend to break the family up because you
- 11:55would you didn't plan on getting caught cheating, but you got
- 11:57caught cheating. You were cheating.
- 11:59You see what I'm saying? But that's the that's the crux
- 12:01of it all right there, y'all? I just, this really is a tough
- 12:04thing to deal with because narcissist do want love and some
- 12:07of them are deserving of love, but it's just like they when I
- 12:10say deserving of love, don't get that twisted, y'all?
- 12:12They're like, well, they should I go back and give them No, if
- 12:15you're out of it, stay out of it, Right?
- 12:17But if you're in it, you know what I'm saying?
- 12:19Don't let this keep you stuck. Well, Lee said they were
- 12:22deserving their love, so I need, I need to give it to him.
- 12:23No, Lee did not say that. Don't put words in Lee's mouth.
- 12:27Lee wants you to win. He really, really does.
- 12:31You know what I mean? That's the crux of it all,
- 12:32y'all. Anyways, y'all think I'll tune
- 12:35into another video. I appreciate every single one of
- 12:37y'all. I know.
- 12:37Y'all see my little Gray hair? Y'all been following the Gray,
- 12:40my narcissistic Gray right here. I'm, I'm not going to shave it.
- 12:43I'm going to let it sit there, let it grow out.
- 12:45I'm about to be 40 years old. I'm blessed to make it to 40 in
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