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144. Dave Asprey, Biohacker, Author & Founder of Bulletproof · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: Gratitude is actually the gateway to forgiveness if you want
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Speaker 1: to forgiven as someone who's wronged you. Forgiveness is about
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Speaker 1: telling them that you forgive them. It's about you stopping
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Speaker 1: holding a grudge that takes energy. You have to find
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Speaker 1: gratitude first for everything in the world. So yeah, that
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Speaker 1: means finding gratitude for the pandemic. One good thing came
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Speaker 1: out of it, even if a lot of other garbage
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Speaker 1: came out of it.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello everyone, Emily a body here bringing you Episode
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Speaker 2: one forty four of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where
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Speaker 2: I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything
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Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your
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Speaker 2: best self, move with intention, and have some fun along
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Speaker 2: the way. Today I am chatting with Dave Asprey And
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Speaker 2: now you've probably heard of Dave before, but may not
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Speaker 2: be exactly sure why. Dave is the creator of the
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Speaker 2: bulletproof diet and bulletproof coffee. And he's also the founder
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Speaker 2: of the biohacking movement, which sounds jazzy because it is Dave.
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Speaker 2: As he defines biohacking, I got you. It is the
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Speaker 2: art and science of changing the environment around you and
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Speaker 2: inside of you so that you have full control over
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Speaker 2: your own biology.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know.
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Speaker 2: In today's episode we get into all of that. He
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Speaker 2: tells me about a time in his life when he
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Speaker 2: weighed three hundred pounds, was a computer hacker and dealing
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Speaker 2: with a slew of health issues, including arthritis, which led
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Speaker 2: him into learning about.
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Speaker 3: And inventing biohacking.
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Speaker 2: Dave started spending a considerable amount of money on getting
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Speaker 2: better than he had ever been, and of course we
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Speaker 2: address this in today's episode.
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Speaker 3: Not all of us have hundreds of thousands.
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Speaker 2: Of dollars, maybe even more to dedicate to something like this,
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Speaker 2: but we do want to level up our health, so naturally, Dave,
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Speaker 2: he gives me, gives the hurdlers some low cost and
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Speaker 2: free examples of how we can.
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Speaker 3: Do just that, whether it be through things that we should.
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Speaker 2: Implement or cut out of our diet, or other simple
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Speaker 2: tactics like hitting a cold plunge and we talk about
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Speaker 2: why freezing your butt off in some water can do
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Speaker 2: your body good. He also tells me about his impressive
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Speaker 2: career history, how he made a small fortune by the
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Speaker 2: time he was twenty six and then lost it by
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Speaker 2: the time he was twenty eight, and then we talk
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Speaker 2: about his journey to building the Bulletproof brand and business.
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Speaker 2: I love how this episode could off with a beautiful
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Speaker 2: discussion on the importance of gratitude, and if I'm being
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Speaker 2: really honest, I did not know how this interview was
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Speaker 2: going to go, but I found Dave to be so interesting,
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Speaker 2: so delightful, and everything he had to say literally, I
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Speaker 2: was just fascinated.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of good content in here.
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Speaker 2: Dave also has a new book out this week called
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Speaker 2: Fast This Way. How to lose weight, get smarter, and
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Speaker 2: live your longest, healthiest life with the Bulletproof Guide to Fasting.
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Speaker 1: Today.
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Speaker 2: I am chatting with Dave Asprie. I feel like this
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Speaker 2: man needs no introduction. He's the creator of Bulletproof coffee,
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Speaker 2: the founder of Bulletproof three sixty, a multiple New York
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Speaker 2: Times best selling off there.
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Speaker 3: How do you doing today, Dave?
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Speaker 1: I'm doing really well.
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Speaker 3: Really well. I love the adjective here.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: I got two and a half hours of deep sleep
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Speaker 1: last night and an hour and a half of rem
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Speaker 1: so I'm super charged today.
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Speaker 3: I love the statistics that we've got going on here.
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Speaker 2: Fun fact before we get into the real meat and potatoes,
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Speaker 2: I was actually working at Rodale when we were launching
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Speaker 2: the Bulletproof diet, so it's kind of fun now for
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Speaker 2: me a little career moment to come full circle with you.
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Speaker 1: Oh you were Were you in that conference room with
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Speaker 1: like forty people while I was in there?
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Speaker 3: I'm sure I was. Yeah. We did a lot of
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Speaker 3: fun stuff for the promotion of that book.
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Speaker 1: It was amazing because I was walking down the street
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Speaker 1: in New York and I found this cool, like army
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Speaker 1: ranger vest at a thrift shop, Like, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: buy this and I'm going to wear an actual almost
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Speaker 1: bulletproof ish vest to this meeting, which probably wasn't the
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Speaker 1: New York thing to do, but it was fun.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 2: I love that, Okay, And then I think a fun
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Speaker 2: thing for us to do to kick start our time
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Speaker 2: together here today. I'd love to talk a little bit
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Speaker 2: about gratitude because I've heard you talk about it before,
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Speaker 2: and it's not something that we all talk about all
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Speaker 2: the time, but I think that in the contents of
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Speaker 2: what we're doing this year, it's really important.
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Speaker 3: So if you could just talk.
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Speaker 2: To me a little bit about how having gratitude can
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Speaker 2: impact our bodies.
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Speaker 1: Gratitude is the thing that turns off stress. You cannot
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Speaker 1: actually feel gratitude and be angry at something at the
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Speaker 1: same time, so you can at least interrupt the anger
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Speaker 1: by finding something to be grateful for. And the weird
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Speaker 1: thing about gratitude from a neuroscience perspective is that you
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Speaker 1: can actually see the effect of gratitude in brain waves.
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Speaker 1: So you can just be really pissed off at whatever
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Speaker 1: policy is affecting your business right now or whatever else,
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Speaker 1: and then you can say, wait a minute, you know,
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Speaker 1: I still have a roof up from my head, and
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Speaker 1: you just ponder it for a second and you see
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Speaker 1: it shift and the way your heart beats and the
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Speaker 1: way your brain works, and gratitude is actually the gateway
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Speaker 1: to forgiveness. And this is a part of the neuroscience
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Speaker 1: program that I run where if you want to forgiven
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Speaker 1: as someone who's wronged you, forgiveness is about telling them
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Speaker 1: that you forgive them. It's about you stopping holding a
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Speaker 1: grudge that takes energy. You have to find gratitude first
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Speaker 1: for everything in the world. So yeah, that means finding
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Speaker 1: gratitude for the pandemic. One good thing came out of it,
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Speaker 1: even if a lot of other garbage came out of.
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Speaker 2: It, for sure, And I love what you just said
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Speaker 2: also about how having gratitude can impact your heartbeat and
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Speaker 2: the way that it impacts that is actually with our
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Speaker 2: heart rate variability.
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Speaker 3: Is that right?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you nailed it.
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Speaker 2: Ah, look at me go, I'm and I mean, we'll
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Speaker 2: talk about biohacking, but I have become a little bit
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Speaker 2: obsessive over my whoop strap, which is teaching me things
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Speaker 2: that I never really I looked into before. When it
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Speaker 2: comes to my body and my data and so many
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Speaker 2: of the things that that you are so well versed with.
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Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense to say, hey, how
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Speaker 1: am I doing in ways that I probably don't know
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Speaker 1: how to feel yet. And if you wake up in
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Speaker 1: the morning and say, oh, look, my biomonitor shows me
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Speaker 1: that I really recovered well last night. Today I can
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Speaker 1: push myself hard. That's precious knowledge because otherwise, if you
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Speaker 1: woke up and you were kind of fried and you
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Speaker 1: didn't really realize how fried you were, and you push hard,
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Speaker 1: you'll just get more fried. And this is why doing
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Speaker 1: the same exercise routine, the same fasting routine, the same whatever,
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Speaker 1: every day, maybe you should customize your routine for the day.
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Speaker 3: Biohacking.
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Speaker 2: I want to break it down a little bit for
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Speaker 2: the hurdlers as I love to call them, as to
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Speaker 2: what it is. So, what does it mean to be
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Speaker 2: a biohacker?
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Speaker 1: Well, when I started the biohacking movement, I really pondered
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Speaker 1: the definition, and I came up with this. It's the
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Speaker 1: art and science of changing the environment around you and
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Speaker 1: inside of you so that you have full control over
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Speaker 1: your own biology.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's loosely put.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean because it's like, well, what does
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Speaker 1: it really mean? It's different than everything else, and it
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Speaker 1: is now a word in the English Dictionary, was added
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen as one of eight hundred and eighty
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Speaker 1: new words. And my name's in the definition. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: they didn't use my definition. They used a similar one
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Speaker 1: around some similar stuff.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, how to be someone that's kind of
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Speaker 2: you know, you're saying my name is next to the
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Speaker 2: definition of this, to be someone that's so on the
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Speaker 2: forefront of this, I mean, how does one even get
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Speaker 2: into biohacking? So give me, give me some of your backstory,
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Speaker 2: how we arrived at being even interested in getting into
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Speaker 2: this kind of work.
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Speaker 1: The easiest way to get into biohacking is to suffer greatly.
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Speaker 1: All you have to do is do that and get
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Speaker 1: tired of it, and you'll find your way there. Certainly
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Speaker 1: I put a name on this practice, but it's something
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Speaker 1: that we've been doing for thousands of years. And one
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Speaker 1: arm of it is how do I improve myself? And
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Speaker 1: the other arm of it is how do I heal myself?
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Speaker 1: And most people have some things they want to improve
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Speaker 1: and some things that they would benefit from healing, whether
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Speaker 1: they know about them or not. And in my case,
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Speaker 1: I weighed three hundred pounds and I started having cognitive
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Speaker 1: dysfunction in my mid twenties. When my career was taking off.
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Speaker 1: I was doing phenomenal things and I couldn't remember stuff,
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Speaker 1: and I was at high risk of stroke and heart
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Speaker 1: attack and pre diabetic, and I had arthritis that I've
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Speaker 1: had since I was a teenager in my knees, and like,
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Speaker 1: I have to fix this, and the doctors don't seem
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Speaker 1: like they can do it. I'm a computer hacker, that's
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Speaker 1: actually my job, so maybe I could hack this because
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Speaker 1: it doesn't look like anyone's going to do it for me.
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Speaker 1: So it was that got me started. It was desperation, frankly,
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Speaker 1: but eventually I spent three four hundred thousand dollars fixing myself.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't really take that much, but you spend a
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Speaker 1: lot of money on stuff that doesn't work because the
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Speaker 1: knowledge isn't well put together. And then I started spending
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Speaker 1: money on getting better than I ever had been and
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Speaker 1: going beyond what's normal. And I still don't know the
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Speaker 1: upper limits of human life span or cognitive enhancement. But
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy with where I am.
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Speaker 3: Now, pretty happy with where you are now.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting to me as someone who also at one
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Speaker 2: point I was definitely overweight, and so to hear you
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Speaker 2: and your story, what if anything specific can you attribute
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Speaker 2: you know, the earlier unhealthy habits that you had in
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Speaker 2: your life too.
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Speaker 1: I used to believe that it was it was my fault,
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Speaker 1: and actually it was my fault because I am in
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Speaker 1: large part in control of my environment. But I thought
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Speaker 1: it was a moral failing and it was a hardware
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Speaker 1: problem that I had. So it was there were some
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Speaker 1: behavioral things. I was afraid of being lonely, and I
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Speaker 1: was afraid of being hungry because I'd been taught that
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Speaker 1: if you don't eat every six times a day, you'll
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Speaker 1: go into starvation mode. And so I had beliefs that
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Speaker 1: were not true that informed my actions. And then I
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Speaker 1: also had by a lot stuff going on. I lived
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Speaker 1: in a house that had toxic mold, and toxic mold
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Speaker 1: turns down your ability to use your food to make energy,
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Speaker 1: so you get fat. And it also makes you emotionally
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Speaker 1: less able to control your emotions, so you act like
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Speaker 1: a jerk all the time. You're tired, and you keep
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Speaker 1: gaining weight and getting stretch marks, and it sucks.
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Speaker 3: How did you know that your house had toxic mold.
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Speaker 1: Well, I've become kind of an expert in it because
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Speaker 1: I did figure this out by the time I was
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Speaker 1: thirty or so. It was a lot of work, to
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Speaker 1: the point I funded and shot a documentary mouldimovie dot com.
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Speaker 1: It's a free thing anyone can see just to say, look,
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Speaker 1: this is a real problem affecting one hundred million people.
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Speaker 1: It matters. But the symptoms I had, even as a
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Speaker 1: kid growing up in a basement that had been flooded,
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Speaker 1: was I would have chronic nosebleeds all the time, which
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Speaker 1: is a classic symptom, nightmares, joint pain, rashes, and you
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Speaker 1: get all these different symptoms from them. And I've interviewed
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Speaker 1: so many really successful people who have just been taken
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Speaker 1: out when they had a leak behind their dishwasher. Just
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Speaker 1: the dumbest things. But this stuff that's highly poisonous will
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Speaker 1: grow in your house if you're not watching for it.
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Speaker 1: It's something to be aware of, and it's not something
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Speaker 1: to be afraid of. It's just to know. But if
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Speaker 1: people are saying I moved into a new house and
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Speaker 1: I gained thirty pounds and I wake up feeling hungover
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Speaker 1: when I sleep twelve hours and my life is falling apart,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think you might want to get an
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Speaker 1: air test, my friend, if.
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Speaker 2: Only we knew, and maybe then in that case, like
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Speaker 2: spending two three, four hundred dollars, which can definitely come
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Speaker 2: off like a big chunk of change, but on some
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Speaker 2: sort of an air purifier at the very least, is
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Speaker 2: like a good place to start if we're talking about
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Speaker 2: spending money on our health.
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Speaker 1: It is, in fact one of the I have different
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Speaker 1: companies with different missions, but one of my companies, called
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Speaker 1: home Biotic, makes a probiotic you spray around your house
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Speaker 1: that eats mold as it's fuel source. And the mission
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Speaker 1: for my company is to stop the world's toxic mold problem.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big thing, especially for kids. It's
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Speaker 1: a major cause of Alzheimer's. Dale Britison, in his book
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Speaker 1: The End of Alzheimer's says, it's one of the big
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Speaker 1: three things that are triggered it. So we have this
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Speaker 1: you know, parts per million toxins floating round. Smells a
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Speaker 1: little bit swampy in that house. Oh, don't worry. Well yeah,
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Speaker 1: I agree, don't worry, but maybe don't go in there either.
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Speaker 2: Right, And so when you're you know, in your mid
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Speaker 2: twenties heading toward thirty, you're feeling a little lost. You're
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Speaker 2: in the midst of this hurdle moment, like, is there
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Speaker 2: one specific event that happens that you say to yourself, like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: it's time to make a change.
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Speaker 1: Well, I made six million dollars when I was twenty
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Speaker 1: six casual. Yeah, that was that was kind of fun.
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Speaker 3: And how does one make six million dollars at twenty six?
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Speaker 3: The hurdlers want to know.
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Speaker 1: I was a co founder of a part of the
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Speaker 1: company that held Google's first servers when all of the
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Speaker 1: you know, the Facebook was still the Facebook and all
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Speaker 1: of those companies were just being formed. My company held
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Speaker 1: their servers and ran their data centers. And I made
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Speaker 1: that six million dollars and I lost it two years
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Speaker 1: later when I was twenty eight.
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Speaker 3: Not an easy thing to go through.
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Speaker 1: Oh god, no, that's one of the who top stressors,
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Speaker 1: like losing a family members, you know, losing your life's fortune.
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Speaker 1: And it taught me a lot though, because number one,
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Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I have enough money. I've already had
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Speaker 1: my moment of fame. In my early twenties. I was
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Speaker 1: the first person that's selling anything over the internet, believe
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Speaker 1: it or not. The first product ever sold before there
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Speaker 1: was a web browser was a caffeine T shirt that
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Speaker 1: said caffeine my drug of choice. And so I'm going,
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Speaker 1: all right, I've tried fame. I was in my picture
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Speaker 1: in a magazine. I wasn't very happy when I had
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Speaker 1: six million dollars. I'm like, I'll be happy and I
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Speaker 1: have ten million dollars, which is a real stupid thing
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Speaker 1: to think and say, but I did do that, and
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Speaker 1: I just was, Okay, none of those make you happy.
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Speaker 1: And that was a really important learning. But it also
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Speaker 1: gave me the opportunity to say nothing else matters except
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Speaker 1: for your energy and maybe your health, but really your energy,
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Speaker 1: because if you have enough energy, you can make time,
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Speaker 1: or you can make money. But if you have time
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Speaker 1: and money but you have no energy, it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: You'll just sleep. And so for me, I started focusing
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Speaker 1: on how do I feel? How do I make myself
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Speaker 1: feel good all the time? How do I know that
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Speaker 1: if I press on the accelerator in my life that
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Speaker 1: I can go faster? Because I was panicking. I was
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Speaker 1: like in a car and you're pushing all the way
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Speaker 1: to the floor and it's slowing down and you can't
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Speaker 1: push anymore. It doesn't matter how much you try, It
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter much you want is that there isn't power there.
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Speaker 1: And I just never wanted to feel that again. So
18:22
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I'm going to have to hack this.
18:24
Speaker 1: If I can teach people how to build you know,
18:26
Speaker 1: a million server networks where you don't know what's going on,
18:29
Speaker 1: but somehow you control it, how different can the body be?
18:32
Speaker 1: And it turns out that systems biology perspective, you can
18:35
Speaker 1: hack the body, and a lot of functional medicine has
18:38
Speaker 1: moved in this direction. And I just was saying, how
18:40
Speaker 1: do I get the neuroscientists to talk to the bodybuilders
18:43
Speaker 1: to talk to the Navy seals, to talk to the astronauts,
18:46
Speaker 1: to talk to people doing anti aging research. How do
18:48
Speaker 1: be able to get together? Because what everyone wants, whether you
18:52
Speaker 1: know you're like I was when I was twenty five,
18:54
Speaker 1: you know what I wanted most? I wanted enough energy
18:57
Speaker 1: to do what I wanted, which was mostly, Man, I'm
19:00
Speaker 1: going to be really crass about this, when I was
19:02
Speaker 1: in my mid twenties, mostly I just wanted to get
19:04
Speaker 1: laid and make my career happen, because that's your hormones
19:08
Speaker 1: are kind of like that when you're that age. So,
19:11
Speaker 1: but that wasn't where I was putting my energy, right,
19:14
Speaker 1: But that was where I wanted to put it because
19:15
Speaker 1: I didn't have enough. And so I just realized we
19:19
Speaker 1: all want energy to control our biology. And if that means, look,
19:22
Speaker 1: I have an hour and a half commute, I want
19:24
Speaker 1: to come home and I don't want to be a
19:26
Speaker 1: zombie for my kids that's important, right. Or I want
19:29
Speaker 1: to be a good teacher, or I want to be
19:30
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, I want to be a football player, whatever.
19:32
Speaker 1: But you just wanted your body to do what you wanted,
19:34
Speaker 1: and that's what unites all of us.
19:37
Speaker 2: I think the difference between you and so many or
19:40
Speaker 2: just perhaps you know, the success story versus the stagnant
19:44
Speaker 2: is that you felt this way and then you were
19:47
Speaker 2: ready to take action. And a lot of people say
19:50
Speaker 2: I need to do this, I want to do this.
19:52
Speaker 2: But it's that tipping point, right, it's the I'm going
19:54
Speaker 2: to get up and do it that so many people
19:57
Speaker 2: struggle with, whether you know it's a similar situation we're
20:00
Speaker 2: talking about weight loss or going after a career shift
20:03
Speaker 2: or a career change, like the unknown is what stops
20:05
Speaker 2: so many people from just saying, all right, let's make
20:08
Speaker 2: this happen.
20:10
Speaker 1: If there's fear of the unknown, there's also just a
20:13
Speaker 1: kind of a learned helplessness where you go to the
20:15
Speaker 1: doctor and the doctor's going to fix you. And for me,
20:18
Speaker 1: what really helped. I went to the doctor once and
20:21
Speaker 1: I said, I've done a lot of research and something
20:22
Speaker 1: really isn't working right. The one thing I've been able
20:25
Speaker 1: to find out is that vitamin C seems to help me.
20:28
Speaker 1: When I take it, I feel a little bit better.
20:31
Speaker 1: And he looked at me and said, stop, it could
20:33
Speaker 1: kill you. Don't take vitamin C.
20:35
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
20:37
Speaker 1: And I looked at him and I said, what about
20:40
Speaker 1: Linus Pauling. Now, Linus Pauling took ninety grams of vitamin
20:43
Speaker 1: C a day and won two Nobel Prizes, and it's
20:45
Speaker 1: pretty well known in the health community for doing that.
20:47
Speaker 1: The doctor's like, I don't know who that is. And
20:50
Speaker 1: I just realized I'm dealing with someone who lives in
20:52
Speaker 1: a different reality than me. And I had been on
20:54
Speaker 1: antibiotics for fifteen years for chronic sinus infections, another toxic
20:58
Speaker 1: old thing, and I'm just hold on a second here.
21:02
Speaker 1: I am not dealing with someone who's an expert in
21:05
Speaker 1: what I'm dealing with, which is I want limitless energy.
21:09
Speaker 1: I want to feel good when I wake up in
21:11
Speaker 1: the morning. I don't want pain in my body all day.
21:13
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose words when I'm trying to
21:15
Speaker 1: think of things. I want to be able to pay
21:16
Speaker 1: attention all day long, every day to things that I
21:19
Speaker 1: love and then I care about and that I think
21:21
Speaker 1: matter in the world. And it's not working right now.
21:24
Speaker 1: And this guy has no clue. He thinks I'm lying.
21:27
Speaker 1: He doesn't believe me when I told him I worked
21:29
Speaker 1: out an hour and a half a day, six days
21:32
Speaker 1: a week for eighteen months to lose weight and I
21:34
Speaker 1: still have a forty six inch waist. He's like, Oh,
21:37
Speaker 1: that's because you're reading Snickers bars. I'm like, no, it's not.
21:39
Speaker 1: It's because something isn't working. Everyone listening to this has
21:43
Speaker 1: things that aren't working, even though they keep doing them.
21:46
Speaker 1: I just resolve that I'm going to measure and see
21:49
Speaker 1: what works. I'm going to do what's supposed to work,
21:51
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, then I'm going to do
21:53
Speaker 1: what's not supposed to work. And that led me to Tibet,
21:56
Speaker 1: to learn meditation from the Masters, to do acupuncture, back
21:59
Speaker 1: when everyone thought it was a fraud to try everything
22:02
Speaker 1: with an open mind because of what I have to lose,
22:04
Speaker 1: I already feel like crap all the time.
22:07
Speaker 2: Right, So, then, in your steps to both losing weight
22:10
Speaker 2: and learning how to hack your body, what would you
22:14
Speaker 2: say became the first light bulb moment for you, Like
22:17
Speaker 2: I'm really onto something and I'm starting to feel better.
22:21
Speaker 1: One of the first lighte bolt moments happened pretty early on.
22:25
Speaker 1: I'd already had three knee surgeries, and I was fat,
22:29
Speaker 1: and I was going to the gym and I was eating,
22:32
Speaker 1: you know, a low fat diet. It just it wasn't working,
22:34
Speaker 1: but I was doing it because it's what you did.
22:37
Speaker 1: And I went to this coffee shop and I'm waiting
22:39
Speaker 1: in line, and there's a bodybuilding magazine. Now, if you
22:43
Speaker 1: go back into the nineties and a farming community where
22:46
Speaker 1: I went to high school, generally men didn't look at
22:50
Speaker 1: pictures of other men in bikinis because the other kids
22:55
Speaker 1: would beat you up. Literally, that was the kind of
22:57
Speaker 1: school I went to. So I picked up the Magaze
23:00
Speaker 1: and I looked through it and it said, Hey, maybe
23:03
Speaker 1: it's carbs that are making you fat. And I'm like, oh,
23:06
Speaker 1: that's interesting. So, without really knowing what I was doing,
23:09
Speaker 1: I took wheat out of my diet because it was
23:10
Speaker 1: a carb, and magically I lost fifty pounds in three months.
23:15
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that hard, and my personality change because
23:17
Speaker 1: wheat it can really mess with your head. But it
23:19
Speaker 1: turns out it took me another ten years and a
23:21
Speaker 1: lot of experiments to lose the other fifty pounds. And
23:23
Speaker 1: that's what's happening now in the world of Keto, and
23:26
Speaker 1: people are saying, oh, I heard about the Keto diet.
23:29
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna eat carbs. But it's easy to
23:32
Speaker 1: lose some weight, the others will not go. And that
23:34
Speaker 1: was why I wrote the Bulletproof Diet. It was simply that, look,
23:38
Speaker 1: katosis is a small part of it, but you've got
23:40
Speaker 1: to not eat the stuff that irritates your body, because
23:43
Speaker 1: if your body's irritated all the time, your mind will
23:46
Speaker 1: be irritated all the time, and you'll be wasting energy
23:48
Speaker 1: all the time. My job now is to have no
23:52
Speaker 1: wasted effort, to be really lazy where I don't want
23:56
Speaker 1: thoughts on my head about what's for lunch, what's for lunch,
23:58
Speaker 1: what's for lunch. I'd rather think about what am I
24:00
Speaker 1: doing next to do something meaningful because I only have
24:03
Speaker 1: space for one thought at a time there And so
24:06
Speaker 1: it was that kind of a mindset to say, how
24:09
Speaker 1: do I dialt this since I have more energy and
24:11
Speaker 1: I can direct my attention where I want it and
24:13
Speaker 1: remove distractions and eating toxins, whether they're plant based toxins
24:19
Speaker 1: or chemical toxins and all it really does affect your
24:22
Speaker 1: mental and your physical even your emotional state.
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27:43
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27:46
Speaker 1: There are four categories of toxins that I wrote about
27:51
Speaker 1: in the Bulletproof Diet. The first one was lectins, and
27:54
Speaker 1: since then the Plant Paradox came out, which really focused
27:57
Speaker 1: a lot on luctins as well. And lutins are inflammatory
28:01
Speaker 1: compounds of proteins that stick to sugars that are found
28:04
Speaker 1: in the night shade family, like bell peppers and spicy
28:07
Speaker 1: peppers and potatoes and tomatoes. Some people are sensitive, some aren't.
28:11
Speaker 1: They're in legomes, they're in grains, and when you eat
28:15
Speaker 1: those things, they tend to cause inflammation, puffiness, gut problems,
28:20
Speaker 1: leaky gut. But you know what, they're a lot better
28:23
Speaker 1: than starving. So we figured out we could eat these foods,
28:26
Speaker 1: but that was because there wasn't anything like a grass
28:28
Speaker 1: fed steak wandering around, or we would have eaten that
28:31
Speaker 1: from an ancestral perspective. So the deal is, plants don't
28:35
Speaker 1: want us to eat their babies, so they cover themselves
28:37
Speaker 1: in toxins, and we selectively remove the toxins by peeling,
28:40
Speaker 1: by cooking, et cetera, et cetera. But still there's stuff
28:43
Speaker 1: that isn't good for us in some plants, so you
28:46
Speaker 1: pull out those. You pull out oxalic acid, which is
28:49
Speaker 1: present in kale and probably kales, nemesis kales causing kidney stones,
28:55
Speaker 1: in joint pain and even vaginal pain, something called bulvidenia
28:59
Speaker 1: in lots of people right now, and they just don't
29:02
Speaker 1: know it. You get rid of your kale and your
29:03
Speaker 1: raw spinach, and magically you feel better, And that's because
29:08
Speaker 1: these things evolved so they wouldn't be overeaten by animals.
29:12
Speaker 1: And then the third thing is phytates. When you go
29:14
Speaker 1: on a plant based diet, your plant based proteins are
29:17
Speaker 1: covered in phytic acid, which prevents your ability to absorb
29:20
Speaker 1: zinc and magnesium and copper and the other minerals you
29:23
Speaker 1: need so animals who eat lots of plants that are
29:27
Speaker 1: full of phytates, unless you're a cow with three stomachs,
29:30
Speaker 1: what happens is you can't absorb the other minerals, you
29:32
Speaker 1: get weak, and then there's less of you, so you'll
29:35
Speaker 1: stop eating the plants. It's all in balance. And the
29:37
Speaker 1: fourth thing is called mycotoxins or mold toxins, And when
29:41
Speaker 1: plants are growing in the field or when they're stored,
29:44
Speaker 1: mold will grow in them. And some of these molds
29:46
Speaker 1: are very toxic and they simulate estrogen, so they make
29:49
Speaker 1: you puffy, they give you extra fat and your tissues,
29:52
Speaker 1: and they cause cognitive dysfunction. They're linked with cancer in
29:56
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of studies, not just a few. So like,
30:00
Speaker 1: what if we could just minimize those things and then
30:02
Speaker 1: eat the foods that didn't have those And that became
30:05
Speaker 1: the Bulletproof diet roadmap, And people have lost a million
30:07
Speaker 1: pounds on the Bulletproof diet. So yeah, you can do
30:09
Speaker 1: intermittent fasting. I have a new book, by the way,
30:11
Speaker 1: just coming out. It's called Fast This Way, where I
30:14
Speaker 1: teach people about how to do fasting in a way
30:16
Speaker 1: that works. And you want to eat foods that don't
30:18
Speaker 1: make you hungry. The things I just talked about, those
30:21
Speaker 1: are the things that give you cravings. So if you'd
30:23
Speaker 1: like to be able to skip breakfast occasionally without thinking
30:25
Speaker 1: about food all the time, don't have that stuff for dinner,
30:27
Speaker 1: it's not that hard.
30:28
Speaker 2: You mentioned your trip abroad, and I'm sure that really
30:33
Speaker 2: kind of started to shift your entire perspective. So after
30:35
Speaker 2: a life changing trip like that, how do you know
30:38
Speaker 2: what your next step is going to be.
30:40
Speaker 1: There's something called serendipity where if you get a chance
30:44
Speaker 1: to travel and kind it might be a couple of
30:45
Speaker 1: years before that happens. I hope we turn travel back
30:48
Speaker 1: on because it's important, especially when we're younger. But you're
30:52
Speaker 1: not sure what's going to happen, and you're going to
30:55
Speaker 1: allow things to happen the way they're going to happen.
30:58
Speaker 1: So you don't know where you're going to be next
31:00
Speaker 1: week because you're taking a month and you're traveling, and
31:02
Speaker 1: you're going to do this thing called wandering, and I
31:06
Speaker 1: feel like that's the most important thing. And you come
31:09
Speaker 1: back from a trip like that, you can say, oh,
31:11
Speaker 1: I've got you know, a job planned, or I know
31:13
Speaker 1: what I'm going to do. But you can also say,
31:15
Speaker 1: you know what, I was planning to do that, but
31:17
Speaker 1: suddenly this other opportunity came. So it's willingness to just
31:21
Speaker 1: look around and be open to what comes to you.
31:24
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. I came back from my trip to
31:27
Speaker 1: a nepall in TI Bed in China, and I said,
31:31
Speaker 1: I'm going to go be CEO of a wireless internet
31:33
Speaker 1: company in Hawaii because I want to be able to serve.
31:37
Speaker 1: And before I could do that, I got another job
31:40
Speaker 1: opportunity in Silicon Valley that was a profound one of
31:43
Speaker 1: people I'd worked with before I said, no, I'm actually
31:45
Speaker 1: going to do that. I met my wife when I
31:47
Speaker 1: came back from that trip. And I met my wife
31:49
Speaker 1: not because I was planning to but because I got
31:51
Speaker 1: a phone call randomly from a friend who said, you
31:54
Speaker 1: have to come to this conference why and she just
31:57
Speaker 1: kind of convinced me to come. Serendipitous and I went.
32:01
Speaker 1: So it's not just being open, and that's the thing
32:04
Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's too rigid, so you don't
32:07
Speaker 1: have to know what's going to happen. But you can
32:09
Speaker 1: just say I'm going to be curious about what happens.
32:12
Speaker 2: Right, And so you come back and you go to
32:14
Speaker 2: the conference, and you meet your wife, and then serendipitously,
32:18
Speaker 2: do you start to be guided toward this.
32:22
Speaker 3: Path of being your own boss entirely.
32:26
Speaker 1: I've been an entrepreneur in Silicon Valley for a long time,
32:30
Speaker 1: but it was always as a part of an entrepreneurial
32:32
Speaker 1: focused company. The place where I made six million dollars.
32:35
Speaker 1: I was a co founder of a part of the
32:38
Speaker 1: company where we started a company inside a company, and
32:42
Speaker 1: I'd always said, you know, someday I'll do my own
32:44
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial thing. But that wasn't my goal with Bulletproof at all.
32:48
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share the knowledge that had helped
32:53
Speaker 1: me so much. I've been running an anti agent nonprofit
32:56
Speaker 1: for twenty years, and I said, I think five people
33:00
Speaker 1: are going to read this blog, and if it's the
33:02
Speaker 1: right five people, it'll change their life so profoundly that
33:05
Speaker 1: it'll be like a really high ROI I already made
33:09
Speaker 1: a quarter million dollars a year. I had stock options,
33:11
Speaker 1: I was a VP at a publicly traded company, and
33:13
Speaker 1: I had two young kids. That's probably not the ideal
33:16
Speaker 1: time to start a company. And when I started the blog.
33:20
Speaker 1: More than two people, more than five people paid attention,
33:22
Speaker 1: and it started growing and growing. And then I said,
33:25
Speaker 1: I can't buy coffee that doesn't make me crash. Maybe
33:28
Speaker 1: I can figure that one out. Maybe I can take
33:31
Speaker 1: the ingredients for a bulletproof coffee and I can turn
33:33
Speaker 1: those into products that I can't buy. And my whole
33:36
Speaker 1: deal was, I'm going to make products I can't buy,
33:38
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a small side gig. And
33:41
Speaker 1: then I called my friends from Silicon Valley in the
33:43
Speaker 1: venture capital world where I worked, and I said, guys,
33:46
Speaker 1: you're never going to invest in my company because I
33:48
Speaker 1: know I've sat in your partner meetings. This isn't really
33:51
Speaker 1: a venture backable company. But you should give me fifty
33:55
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a personal money so I can buy some
33:57
Speaker 1: I can buy some more coffee inventory, and I'll give
33:59
Speaker 1: you a good return. And they came back and said,
34:01
Speaker 1: how about nine million dollars? And I'm like, and I
34:04
Speaker 1: really I sat down, I pondered, and I said, Okay,
34:06
Speaker 1: if what I have is as good as I think
34:08
Speaker 1: it is, and it does for people what I know
34:11
Speaker 1: it does, and now we have a lot more research
34:12
Speaker 1: about Alzheimer's and inflammation, and like, we just know so much.
34:15
Speaker 1: Ten years after I started this, I said, I think
34:17
Speaker 1: I have a moral obligation to go big. So I
34:20
Speaker 1: took the money. That's what it was. But it wasn't
34:24
Speaker 1: about I have to be my own boss. You know,
34:25
Speaker 1: I'm going to show the world that's what I did
34:27
Speaker 1: in my thirties. What this was about was how do
34:30
Speaker 1: I help a lot of people because I want no
34:32
Speaker 1: one to go through the amount of pain that I
34:35
Speaker 1: went through in my life. And some of it was
34:37
Speaker 1: emotional pain, somewhat was self inflicted, but a lot of
34:39
Speaker 1: it was just not knowing the manual for the human body.
34:43
Speaker 1: And I didn't know how to eat. I didn't know
34:45
Speaker 1: how to not eat, which is why fasting is a
34:47
Speaker 1: big focus for me now. I didn't understand the neuroscience.
34:50
Speaker 1: I did understand gratitude. I'd understand forgiveness. I didn't understand
34:54
Speaker 1: having a mission versus being selfish all that stuff. Who
34:57
Speaker 1: teaches that anymore? I don't even know. But I thought
34:59
Speaker 1: maybe I could share with enough people to make a difference.
35:02
Speaker 2: So when it comes to the coffee, let's start there.
35:05
Speaker 2: Talk to me about bulletproof coffee and what makes it
35:07
Speaker 2: so special?
35:09
Speaker 1: Well, bulletproof coffee came as an idea to me because
35:13
Speaker 1: on the side of Mount Kaylash, it's a remote part
35:15
Speaker 1: of western Tibet, eighteen thousand feet elevation, ten degrees below zero.
35:19
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like crap. And a little Tibetan woman about
35:23
Speaker 1: half my height. I'm six', four So i'm serious about
35:25
Speaker 1: half my eye and she gives me a bowl of
35:28
Speaker 1: yac bettered, tea AND i felt better THAN i had
35:32
Speaker 1: in a couple of, years like this is not even.
35:34
Speaker 1: Possible there's no air up. Here how could this? Happen
35:37
Speaker 1: AND i came back To Silicon valley AND i put
35:39
Speaker 1: some butter and some tea and it tasted like crap
35:41
Speaker 1: and it didn't. Work SO i bought some real expensive
35:43
Speaker 1: tea and it didn't. Work so THEN i bought twenty
35:45
Speaker 1: five kinds of, butter And i'm, like wait a. Minute
35:47
Speaker 1: two of the butters. Work they're the grass fed. Butters
35:50
Speaker 1: they're the closest to yaqutter because they have real fat in.
35:53
Speaker 1: Them that's. Interesting and THEN i, said, What i'd given
35:56
Speaker 1: up coffee for five years BECAUSE i would always crash
35:58
Speaker 1: AFTER i had. COFFEE i thought MAYBE i was. Allergic
36:01
Speaker 1: SO i had a cup of. COFFEE i felt, great, like,
36:02
Speaker 1: YEAH i. Fixed the next DAY i had a different
36:04
Speaker 1: cup of. COFFEE i felt like, crap And i'm, like,
36:06
Speaker 1: ah it's not, me it's the different coffee has different
36:09
Speaker 1: things in, it kind of like different bud has different
36:11
Speaker 1: things in it, too and different strains or different. Things
36:13
Speaker 1: SO i did the, research AND i figured out coffee
36:17
Speaker 1: has toxins that make a lot of people feel like.
36:18
Speaker 1: Crap and THE us doesn't have any laws protecting us
36:22
Speaker 1: from those. Toxins so when coffee is rejected By, china
36:25
Speaker 1: rejected By, japan rejected By, europe it's legal to sell
36:28
Speaker 1: in THE us And, canada and they send it here
36:30
Speaker 1: and then we drink it and then we get angry
36:32
Speaker 1: two hours later and want. Sugar SO i decided THAT
36:36
Speaker 1: i was going to put in infrastructure to change green
36:39
Speaker 1: coffee processing and then lab test it WHEN i was,
36:41
Speaker 1: done to see if we could make coffee that didn't
36:44
Speaker 1: have that effect on. Me AND i, THOUGHT i thought
36:47
Speaker 1: maybe one hundred people would want the COFFEE i was
36:49
Speaker 1: going to. MAKE i was a little bit, wrong.
36:53
Speaker 3: Just a little, bit just a little bit.
36:55
Speaker 1: Wrong you blend it with, butter and you blend it
36:58
Speaker 1: with another oil CALLED mct, oil which at this point functional,
37:01
Speaker 1: COFFEE mct oil and college and another product that those
37:04
Speaker 1: are three major industry categories That bulletproof. Created but when
37:07
Speaker 1: you blend it without the, collagen just the two oils
37:09
Speaker 1: and the, coffee it tastes like a. Latte turns on
37:12
Speaker 1: what the way you would feel after two days of.
37:14
Speaker 1: Fasting you get a ton of energy and you stop
37:16
Speaker 1: caring about. Food that's the big, thing.
37:19
Speaker 2: Right so then talk to me about how you integrate
37:22
Speaker 2: The bulletproof coffee into a regular day BECAUSE i know,
37:26
Speaker 2: that as you, mentioned fasting is a part of.
37:28
Speaker 1: It in my new book on, FASTING i expound on
37:33
Speaker 1: the psychology of, fasting and there are three hacks that
37:38
Speaker 1: you can do in order to allow yourself to, fast
37:41
Speaker 1: get the benefits of, fasting but not feel any. Hunger
37:44
Speaker 1: because it's one. Thing if you want to, do you
37:46
Speaker 1: a spiritual fast in a, cave which is WHAT i,
37:48
Speaker 1: did a four day fast in a cave all by
37:51
Speaker 1: myself as a part of writing the. Book but if
37:55
Speaker 1: you don't want to go there because you have a,
37:57
Speaker 1: job you have a, life you have, demands but you
37:59
Speaker 1: want to look, good you wanted to feel, good you
38:02
Speaker 1: wanted the. Clarity and you skip, breakfast you're going to
38:05
Speaker 1: get hypoglybitchi around eleven thirty and then you're gonna, Like
38:08
Speaker 1: i'm just going to power through, it but you're not
38:09
Speaker 1: going to be, yourself and a lot of us don't want.
38:11
Speaker 1: That so you can use black coffee by itself during
38:16
Speaker 1: a fast and you'll be less. Hungry you can PUT
38:20
Speaker 1: mct oil and butter in it to make it a
38:21
Speaker 1: bulletr of coffee and you really won't be hungry and
38:23
Speaker 1: you'll have more, energy but your fasting machinery in the
38:26
Speaker 1: body will still be. Running and if you want to
38:29
Speaker 1: do the newest fasting hack that's in fast this, way
38:33
Speaker 1: it is prebiotic. Fiber you can put certain kinds of
38:36
Speaker 1: fiber into your coffee or into something else and you drink.
38:39
Speaker 1: That it doesn't change your blood sugar, levels it doesn't
38:43
Speaker 1: change your protein, levels but it also turns off hunger
38:48
Speaker 1: by manipulating hunger. Hormones so all of a, sudden eleven
38:51
Speaker 1: o'clock rolls around on a normal day when you have,
38:54
Speaker 1: breakfast if someone puts a croissant or a muffin or
38:56
Speaker 1: a donut front of. You you're going to look at
38:58
Speaker 1: that thing and it's going to look back at, you
39:00
Speaker 1: and you're going to have this little inner dialogue about.
39:02
Speaker 1: IT i want the muffin and they say, no, no
39:03
Speaker 1: and then you eat half of it and you feel.
39:05
Speaker 1: Guilty but what really happens now is someone sets it
39:10
Speaker 1: in front of, you this, muffin and you just don't
39:13
Speaker 1: care because you genuinely don't want to eat. It there's
39:16
Speaker 1: no thought about. It it's just, oh like there's a pencil,
39:19
Speaker 1: there but you don't need to. Write. That to me
39:21
Speaker 1: is liberation BECAUSE i didn't have to use wielpower to
39:24
Speaker 1: do something to tell myself not to do something THAT
39:26
Speaker 1: i didn't actually want to. Do and that's what you're
39:29
Speaker 1: getting with this soluble fiber with bulletproof coffee in the
39:32
Speaker 1: middle of a. Fast it's been liberating for.
39:34
Speaker 3: Me it's been.
39:36
Speaker 2: Liberating SO i, MEAN i know that you want to
39:39
Speaker 2: live until one hundred and?
39:41
Speaker 3: Eighty is that?
39:41
Speaker 1: Right until at least one hundred and? EIGHTY i don't
39:43
Speaker 1: want to put artificial limits on.
39:45
Speaker 2: IT i respect, That but the question then becomes with
39:50
Speaker 2: this extra, time AS i would, say because as we,
39:53
Speaker 2: know most people won't get to this coveted. Place what
39:58
Speaker 2: are your biggest you know what do you really hope
40:01
Speaker 2: to get with that extra?
40:02
Speaker 1: Time, EMILY i don't agree with the assumption that everyone
40:05
Speaker 1: or most of us aren't going to get to that. Place.
40:08
Speaker 1: OOH i believe that we are going to see a
40:12
Speaker 1: profound shift in the next ten years in what it
40:15
Speaker 1: means to be. Old AND i say this because it's
40:18
Speaker 1: already happened and you don't know. It starting in about
40:22
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five to two, thousand there was an epidemic
40:26
Speaker 1: and it was an epidemic of people who were older
40:29
Speaker 1: or are elders who are sixty, five who were, saying
40:33
Speaker 1: you know, what f you. Buddy you can Say i'm,
40:36
Speaker 1: elderly But i'm not BECAUSE i still want to, WORK
40:39
Speaker 1: i still feel, good my brain, WORKS i like. This
40:42
Speaker 1: and the scientists are, like, well we're not so. Sure
40:44
Speaker 1: so they did something called a grip strength, analysis and
40:48
Speaker 1: they found that that's, funny people are not as weak
40:53
Speaker 1: as they used to. Be so in, fact it was
40:56
Speaker 1: fifty Five i'm saying this little bit. Backwards it was
40:58
Speaker 1: when you were fifty five year, elderly and they had
40:59
Speaker 1: to move it to sixty. Five so the definition of
41:02
Speaker 1: elderly shifted out ten years thirty years. Ago, well so
41:06
Speaker 1: it turns out you're still as strong at sixty five
41:09
Speaker 1: as you were at fifty. Five and what's going to
41:12
Speaker 1: happen as all of us age is that we're not
41:15
Speaker 1: going to have thin, skin hunched over diapers and putting
41:19
Speaker 1: your car keys in the fridge and all those things
41:21
Speaker 1: that were terrified of. Justifiably so what we are, lacking
41:26
Speaker 1: the biggest pandemic of, all is our village elders are
41:30
Speaker 1: missing because they Have, alzheimer's because they have, diabetes because
41:34
Speaker 1: they can't get out of, bed and we are having
41:36
Speaker 1: to care for them instead of them having enough energy
41:39
Speaker 1: to care for themselves and share their wisdom with the next,
41:42
Speaker 1: two three or four. Generations that's how it's always. Been
41:44
Speaker 1: there's always a few village, elders and we need to
41:48
Speaker 1: bring that back in because if we understand there's a
41:51
Speaker 1: great chance you will be around one hundred and twenty
41:54
Speaker 1: years from. Now do you think you're going to throw
41:56
Speaker 1: plastic in the. Ocean, no we need a long term,
42:00
Speaker 1: vision and a long term vision that affects, us not
42:03
Speaker 1: just some vague idea of future. Generations so you better
42:07
Speaker 1: start building soil, now because you will be present in
42:10
Speaker 1: a world where we don't have enough soil to grow.
42:12
Speaker 1: Food if you don't do something, now why do you
42:15
Speaker 1: THINK i live on an organic farm Where i'm building
42:17
Speaker 1: soil as fast AS i, can partly BECAUSE i like to,
42:19
Speaker 1: eat but also just because it's. Fun so having a
42:23
Speaker 1: long time span and understanding this is not just for wealthy,
42:27
Speaker 1: People this is happening for all of. Us in, fact
42:29
Speaker 1: they announced yesterday a new. Drug they found you take
42:32
Speaker 1: it four times and it reverses age related decline in
42:36
Speaker 1: memory from four doses of a. Drug what the drug
42:39
Speaker 1: does is fix. Metabolism it's not approved for use. Yet
42:42
Speaker 1: this just came out just, Yesterday but every week we're
42:46
Speaker 1: finding these amazing ways to turn our youth back. On
42:50
Speaker 1: it is, happening and it is happening faster and faster and.
42:53
Speaker 1: Faster the only thing that'll stop it is a comet
42:57
Speaker 1: hitting the planet or really bad government.
42:59
Speaker 3: Policy or really bad government.
43:02
Speaker 2: POLICY i, mean you say that you don't need to
43:05
Speaker 2: have a ton of money to invest to do some
43:09
Speaker 2: good for your body to live.
43:10
Speaker 3: LONGER i know that you have had the opportunity to spend.
43:13
Speaker 2: Some, money give a million bucks sure to to better.
43:18
Speaker 2: Yourself so for those that you know don't have those,
43:20
Speaker 2: means if you had to offer them one or two,
43:22
Speaker 2: suggestions what do you offer?
43:24
Speaker 1: Them the number one thing that you can do is
43:27
Speaker 1: show your body that occasionally there will be strong demands
43:31
Speaker 1: on it and it's going to have to turn on
43:34
Speaker 1: a lot of energy really, quickly because when it knows
43:37
Speaker 1: that you live in a world like, that any parts
43:40
Speaker 1: of your, cells your mitochondria that are, weak it'll just
43:43
Speaker 1: get rid of them and build young new. Ones you
43:46
Speaker 1: can do a cold shower in the morning for one whole,
43:48
Speaker 1: minute you have cold water hitting you in the. Forehead
43:50
Speaker 1: you'll hate me for saying that for three. Days but
43:54
Speaker 1: after three, days all of a, sudden you're, like you know,
43:55
Speaker 1: what that was not. UNPLEASANT i actually feel really good
43:58
Speaker 1: because in three days, time according to the, studies you
44:01
Speaker 1: change the structure of your energy generation parts of your,
44:05
Speaker 1: cells and then they work. Better and that's what builds,
44:09
Speaker 1: resilient that's what builds immune, function that's what builds a
44:12
Speaker 1: person who is stronger and has more of that accelerator
44:15
Speaker 1: to push to the. Floor so another thing you could,
44:18
Speaker 1: do and these are all, free as you can focus
44:21
Speaker 1: on your. Sleep this isn't quite, free but it's almost.
44:24
Speaker 1: Free Black out your. Curtains there's a study that showed
44:27
Speaker 1: the amount of light that comes around curtains in the
44:31
Speaker 1: normal city environment increases depression by about sixty nine. Percent
44:36
Speaker 1: sleep in a, cave you put a limit of foil
44:38
Speaker 1: on your. Windows if you don't have, blackouts unplug your
44:42
Speaker 1: LEDs like this is not, hard but those little things like,
44:46
Speaker 1: that those will help you live. Longer and Maybe i'm,
44:49
Speaker 1: Wrong you'll just not have a bunch of degenative conditions
44:53
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years of your. Life like you
44:54
Speaker 1: win either, way Except i'm not.
44:56
Speaker 3: Wrong Except i'm not. Wrong.
44:58
Speaker 2: Okay so then as we start to wind down, here
45:00
Speaker 2: someone comes to Your instagram page and they see a
45:03
Speaker 2: man who has certainly done his fair share of. Research
45:07
Speaker 2: he has, Biohacked he's well on his way to at
45:10
Speaker 2: least one hundred and. Eighty when you look in the,
45:13
Speaker 2: mirror what is it that you see looking back at?
45:15
Speaker 1: You just another. PERSON i don't Think i'm particularly. SPECIAL
45:20
Speaker 1: i look kind of, like, hmm DO i have dark
45:22
Speaker 1: circles under my? Eyes if, SO i wonder WHAT i
45:25
Speaker 1: did to cause, that BECAUSE i have control over those.
45:27
Speaker 2: Things right, now you have an opportunity to offer a
45:31
Speaker 2: piece of advice to The dave who is in his
45:35
Speaker 2: mid to late, twenties really going through the thick of
45:37
Speaker 2: it with this hurdle, moment feeling, stuck and at that bottom,
45:42
Speaker 2: point you have an opportunity to offer him a piece of.
45:44
Speaker 3: Advice looking back on, it, now what do you tell?
45:46
Speaker 1: Him the thing THAT i WISH i could have told
45:50
Speaker 1: myself much earlier in my career was just that people
45:54
Speaker 1: want to. Help all you have to do is ask
45:57
Speaker 1: the right people for help and be willing to accept.
45:59
Speaker 1: IT i was. STUBBORN i would not accept help in
46:02
Speaker 1: my twenties BECAUSE i was going to show EVERYONE i
46:03
Speaker 1: could do it all by. Myself AND i look back
46:06
Speaker 1: at What Mark hendrieson has, done very famous, investor Well
46:11
Speaker 1: mark created the first web. BROWSER i wrote one of
46:14
Speaker 1: the first reviews in a magazine of the web, browser
46:17
Speaker 1: AND i had done e commerce at the same. Time
46:19
Speaker 1: mark went To Silicon, valley raised hundreds of millions of
46:21
Speaker 1: dollars and became a. Billionaire what DID i? DO i
46:23
Speaker 1: got tired of putting t shirts in boxes in my dorm,
46:26
Speaker 1: room AND i shut the company. Down i'm not. Complaining
46:28
Speaker 1: i'm doing fine. Now but he was willing to go
46:31
Speaker 1: To Silicon valley and ask for help from someone who'd
46:33
Speaker 1: done it, before AND i was too stubborn to do.
46:34
Speaker 1: That and IF i had just known people want to
46:37
Speaker 1: help and they want help because it feels good to,
46:39
Speaker 1: help it would have been so much easier for. Me
46:42
Speaker 1: and Now i'm surrounded by people want to, help And
46:44
Speaker 1: i'm so. FORTUNATE i just wish i'd known that.
46:46
Speaker 2: EARLIER i could literally talk to you for. HOURS i
46:50
Speaker 2: wish that we had more time here, Today. Dave how
46:52
Speaker 2: do the hurdlers keep up with? You how do they find?
46:55
Speaker 2: You give me all the, Details.
46:57
Speaker 1: Emily the best place to go right now is Fastthis
47:01
Speaker 1: way dot. Com and when you go, there pick up
47:03
Speaker 1: my brand new, book AND i will spend two weeks
47:06
Speaker 1: teaching you the. Book because it's one thing to read a,
47:08
Speaker 1: book it's another thing to have the author teach it to.
47:09
Speaker 1: You And i'll do that for, free BECAUSE i just
47:11
Speaker 1: want people to figure out how to skip breakfast out
47:13
Speaker 1: Of fast without breaking themselves and without feeling. Hungry and
47:17
Speaker 1: of Course i'm really active On. Instagram I'm dave Dot
47:19
Speaker 1: asprey And Bulletproof. Radio a couple hundred million, downloads that's
47:22
Speaker 1: pretty well.
47:23
Speaker 3: Known just a couple hundred.
47:24
Speaker 2: Million i'm well on my way, There. Dave i'm aspiring
47:27
Speaker 2: it to. Me just thank, you thank you so, Much
47:31
Speaker 2: thank you so. MUCH i am At Emily body and
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Speaker 2: At Hurdle. Podcast another hurdle. Conquered catch you guys next.
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