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Sharri | 28 July · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Shari.
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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the show. I'm Danikiti.
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Speaker 4: Giorgio filling in this week for Shari. Coming up on
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Speaker 4: the show tonight, Pauline Hanson moves an urgency motion in
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Speaker 4: the Senate, forcing Coalition senators to make a decision on
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Speaker 4: scrapping Net zero. Find out what happened when the One
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Speaker 4: Nation leader joins me. Shortly, Donald Trump humiliates the President
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Speaker 4: of the European Commission, calling wind farms a scam and
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Speaker 4: a conjob. Israel's embassy in Canberra says images of starving
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Speaker 4: Palestinians a part of a false campaign by Hamas. I'll
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Speaker 4: speak to Senator Mikaylia Cash about this and the Prime
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Speaker 4: Minister's latest comments on a Palestinian state. And as Big
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Speaker 4: Australia gets bigger, the Coalition is set to adopt a
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Speaker 4: migration policy focusing on empathy.
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Speaker 3: Empowerment and admiration. What's that all about? For first tonight?
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Speaker 4: As the debate over scrapping Net zero fires up here
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Speaker 4: at home and Labour can continues sending US broken backwards
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Speaker 4: on its renewables only magic carpet ride, the US President
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Speaker 4: is over in Europe, dropping some truth bombs about wind
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Speaker 4: farms and the cost of net zero.
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Speaker 5: We will not allow a windmill to be built in
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Speaker 5: the United States. They're killing as they're killing the beauty
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Speaker 5: of our scenery. Our valleys are beautiful planes, And I'm
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Speaker 5: not talking about aeroplanes.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
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Speaker 5: Beautiful planes, beautiful areas in the United States. And you
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Speaker 5: look up and you see windmills all over the place.
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Speaker 5: It's a horrible thing.
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Speaker 3: How is that?
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Speaker 4: No nonsense, just facts? And what makes it even more
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Speaker 4: extraordinary is that he said it right in front of
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Speaker 4: Ursula vonder Lane, the president of the European Commission, who
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Speaker 4: has pushed for more wind energy, even going as far
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Speaker 4: as to say the industry is a European success story. Well, gee,
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what success she's boasting about. Europe is
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Speaker 4: hardly a model for Spain and Portugal were plunged into
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Speaker 4: darkness in April, just days after Spain professed it had
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Speaker 4: powered the entire national grid with one hundred percent renewable
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Speaker 4: energy on a weekday for the first time. Next minute blackouts,
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Speaker 4: planes grounded, public transport grinded to a whole darkness everywhere.
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Speaker 3: Memo to Chris Bowen, this is what happens.
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Speaker 4: And a ursulav on the lane was feeling really uncomfortable
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Speaker 4: sitting next to Trump while he dished up the truth
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Speaker 4: about reckless renewables.
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Speaker 3: She was about to be hit with this pearler from
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Speaker 3: the President.
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Speaker 2: It's the most expensive form of energy.
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Speaker 5: It's no good. They're made in China, almost all of them.
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Speaker 5: The whole thing is a conjab. It's very expensive and
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Speaker 5: in all fairness, Germany trade it and wind doesn't work.
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Speaker 5: You need subsidy for wind and energy should not need
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Speaker 5: subs With energy, you make money, you don't lose money.
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Speaker 4: A con job very expensive. You make money with energy,
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Speaker 4: not lose it.
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Speaker 3: Boom boom boom.
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Speaker 4: And gif Ursula was desperately hoping to leave the room.
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Speaker 4: At that point, Trump left her with one final serve.
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Speaker 2: It ruins the landscape, it kills the birds.
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Speaker 4: They're noisy, and not that you'd ever hear that from environmentalists.
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Speaker 3: And look, Trump's not wrong.
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Speaker 4: Look at Germany, a once reliable energy powerhouse now labeled
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Speaker 4: the sick Man of Europe, with energy bills amongst some
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Speaker 4: of the highest in the EU thanks to the country's
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Speaker 4: unrealistic emissions targets. It has many even asking if it's
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Speaker 4: time for Germany to go back to nuclear power.
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Speaker 3: Just like Switzerland, which is seeking to.
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Speaker 4: Lift the country's ban on new nuclear power plants, Denmark
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Speaker 4: is revisiting its forty year nuclear power ban, and the
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Speaker 4: Belgian government is looking to reverse nuclear phase out policy.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Germany among other members of the EU, are
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Speaker 4: examples of what not to do. So it's time the
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Speaker 4: left woke up to the reality of the cult of
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Speaker 4: renewable energy. Yet here in Australia, labor is obsessed with
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Speaker 4: its renewables only fantasy thinking can run the grid on
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Speaker 4: an experiment of transmission lines, giant wind turbines, green hydrogen,
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Speaker 4: solar farms and batteries, all with environmental consequences and all
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Speaker 4: costing us a bomb. And the Minister in charge, who
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Speaker 4: promised your power bills would be lower, and who promised
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Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy five dollars in energy relief, seems
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Speaker 4: to think it's just all a big laugh.
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Speaker 6: The Coalition is having a big review of net zero.
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Speaker 6: The National Party's appointed and in a very thorough independent
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Speaker 6: reviewer in Senator Canavan. Appointing Senator Canavan to review net
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Speaker 6: zero is a bit like putting Coldplay in charge of
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Speaker 6: kiss Camp, it doesn't necessarily lead to a happy marriage.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this guy just thinks our energy future is
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Speaker 4: a big joke, and really it is a big joke.
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Speaker 3: How many green energy projects have been scrapped or delayed
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Speaker 3: under his watch.
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Speaker 4: So speaking of truth bombs, here with the Nationals today
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Speaker 4: firing up the net zero debate again.
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Speaker 7: This is a out a great threat to our nation
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Speaker 7: and one of the most divisive issues in regional Australia
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Speaker 7: and one of the most crushing issues for pensioners and
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Speaker 7: for small business that our nation has ever participated in,
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Speaker 7: which is net zero.
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Speaker 1: Net zero ultimately will destroy our economic base here in Australia.
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Speaker 3: And the question that I want to know is what
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Speaker 3: will it cost? And look, they're not wrong.
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Speaker 4: We emit one percent of the world's greenhouse gases, yet
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Speaker 4: we sell coal and gas to India and China, two
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Speaker 4: countries not even signed up to net zero by twenty
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Speaker 4: fifty themselves. So it's about time we have a serious
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Speaker 4: discussion about the massive costs associated with the renewable energy
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Speaker 4: targets while actual big emitters aren't even on board and
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Speaker 4: the debate is getting serious. Wa the Northern Territory and
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Speaker 4: the South Australian Liberal parties have voted to scrap net zero,
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Speaker 4: so the pressure is on their federal colleagues now. Yet
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Speaker 4: members of the Coalition are busy reviewing via a committee
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Speaker 4: process whether or not to dump net zero targets.
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Speaker 8: We have to work through this policy process and I'm
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Speaker 8: not foreshadowing what the outcome will be. It will be
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Speaker 8: underpinned by two fundamental things. Playing our part to responsibly
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Speaker 8: and transparently reduce emissions as we should and also have
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Speaker 8: a stable, reliable energy good.
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Speaker 4: I mean, for goodness sake, How long does it take
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Speaker 4: a review to tell you that your power bills are
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Speaker 4: going in the other direction? And let's not make the
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Speaker 4: same mistakes as Europe. Time to call a spade a spade.
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Speaker 4: As Trump said, net zero is a con job.
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Speaker 3: You don't need a review to tell you that. Well,
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Speaker 3: good luck.
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Speaker 4: If you're planning to travel to and from the Sydney
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Speaker 4: CBD on Sunday, the Harbor Bridge is about to be
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Speaker 4: hijacked by anti Israel activists because of course, hijacking the
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Speaker 4: CBD weekend week outs since soft Time seven twenty twenty
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Speaker 4: three is not enough and hijacking the steps of the
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Speaker 4: Sydney Opera House.
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Speaker 3: Well gee, that's not enough either, not enough attention.
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Speaker 4: So the next step naturally shut down the Harbor Bridge. Yes,
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Speaker 4: the Palestine Action Group's buffoonery knows no bounds. It now
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Speaker 4: wants to cut off the main bridge to get from
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Speaker 4: A to B all in the name of free, free Palestine.
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Speaker 4: The group has given New South Wales police a week's
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Speaker 4: notice of it's so called.
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Speaker 3: March for humanity.
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Speaker 4: How generous, they say, As Australia's most iconic symbol, a
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Speaker 4: mass march across the Harbor Bridge will send a powerful
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Speaker 4: message to the world. That message, the group said, would
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Speaker 4: be to Gaza, to Israel and to our own government
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Speaker 4: that we are determined to stand up for humanity. A
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Speaker 4: powerful message to the world, not a powerful message against terror,
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Speaker 4: of course. Not a powerful message to release the hostages,
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Speaker 4: of course, and as we know, many of those are
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Speaker 4: probably the u ual Greenies, the professional protesters who donn
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Speaker 4: a kefiere march, fake cry and make themselves feel better
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Speaker 4: after tying themselves in knots of guilt. The New South
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Speaker 4: Wales Premier Chris min said the government cannot support a
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Speaker 4: protest of this scale and nature taking place on the
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Speaker 4: Sydney Harbour Bridge, especially with one week's notice. The bridge
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Speaker 4: is one of the most critical pieces of infrastructure in
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Speaker 4: our city, used every day by.
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Speaker 3: Thousands of people.
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Speaker 4: Unplanned disruption risks not only significant inconvenience, but real public safety.
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Speaker 3: We cannot allow Sydney to descend into chaos and will.
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Speaker 3: Obviously he's spot on.
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Speaker 4: I mean, what do these idiots seriously think that they
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Speaker 4: are even achieving? But also at what point do our
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Speaker 4: authorities say enough is enough? The Palestine Action Group noted
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Speaker 4: that Sydney Harbor Bridge has been closed previously to facilitate
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Speaker 4: the filming of a Ryan Gosling film and for World
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Speaker 4: Pride in twenty twenty three. But do they understand anything
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Speaker 4: about notice and permits? And look, it's not just in
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Speaker 4: Sydney where these people are seeking relevance.
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Speaker 3: Have a look at Melbourne.
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Speaker 4: Over the weekend, the National Gallery in Victoria was placed
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Speaker 4: into lockdown as one thousand anti Israel protesters mob the building.
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Speaker 4: The Gallery's crime, you ask, oh, it's supported by Jewish philanthropists.
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Speaker 4: I mean, give us a bloody break. Police had to
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Speaker 4: escort departing museum visitors, including young families and elderly people
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Speaker 4: through the crowd, as many chanted death to the IOF
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Speaker 4: that's the Israel occupation forces, as well as other slogans,
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Speaker 4: and Victoria's Multicultural Minister ingrid stid thought nothing of it.
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Speaker 4: Of course, in Victoria people do have the right to
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Speaker 4: protest peacefully, and the vast majority of people do protest peacefully.
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Speaker 2: We want to make sure that.
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Speaker 4: People can move around the city with confidence and safely. Safely,
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Speaker 4: Ah well, what about the young kids and the elderly
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Speaker 4: who had to be escorted from the building. What about
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Speaker 4: the safety of Jewish Australians Or does the Minister have
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Speaker 4: to go and consult with Jacinta Allen's Anti Hate task
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Speaker 4: Force before she can form her own view on whether
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Speaker 4: a museum going into lockdown because of protests is appropriate
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Speaker 4: or not.
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Speaker 3: And the problem with.
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Speaker 4: These idiot protesters is that they're emboldened, as they have
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Speaker 4: been since October seven thanks to the weakness of our
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Speaker 4: leaders to address the hate being fested across this community
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Speaker 4: and the fear experienced by Jewish Australians. Anthony Abernese's condemnation
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Speaker 4: of Israel has gotten stronger since his re election and
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Speaker 4: we're also talking about a Prime Minister who was a
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Speaker 4: pro Palestine protester in his early parliamentary life. Labour joined
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Speaker 4: twenty eight countries last week demanding an immediate end to
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Speaker 4: the war in Gaza, a statement welcomed by Hamas. On Friday,
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Speaker 4: the PM declared that the situation in Gaza had gone
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Speaker 4: beyond the world's worst fears, never mind the worst fears.
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Speaker 4: When twelve hundred innocent Jews were murdered, raped and tortured
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Speaker 4: by Hamas and two hundred and fifty people were taken hostage.
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Speaker 4: Fifty remain. We don't know though if they're dead or alive.
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Speaker 4: And in question time today the PM would not flat
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Speaker 4: out deny recognizing a Palestinian state in the future. As
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Speaker 4: we witness the mass starvation and the killing of so
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Speaker 4: many civilians and children in Gaza, when will Australia be
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Speaker 4: prepared to recognize Palestine as a state?
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Speaker 9: The timing of a decision to recognize the state of
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Speaker 9: Palestine will be determined by whether that decision advances the
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Speaker 9: realization of that objective. It must be more than a gesture,
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Speaker 9: it must be something that's a part of a moving forward.
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Speaker 4: Well, let's be clear, Hamas wants one state, its own state,
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Speaker 4: a terror state, and for Israel to be wiped off
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Speaker 4: the map. How ridiculously premature to even be discussing a
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Speaker 4: Palestinian state when hostages are still in the tunnels of Gaza.
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Speaker 4: Perhaps Labor backbencher Ed Husick didn't get the memo today
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Speaker 4: when he too called for Australia to follow France's lead
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Speaker 4: and recognize Palestinian statehood.
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Speaker 10: So I think if the French have been able to
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Speaker 10: make that decision without necessarily putting saying these conditions need
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Speaker 10: to be met before we do this, they're saying recognize
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Speaker 10: and do these things, which include the demilitarization of the Mars.
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Speaker 10: I believe this is a strong opportunity for us, given
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Speaker 10: that we have said taking the two elections that we
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Speaker 10: would support the creation of the state of Palestine. We
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Speaker 10: should be making that case and saying we're prepared to
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Speaker 10: recognize that.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 4: Look, all this commentary about a Palestinian state does is
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Speaker 4: serve Humas. This is exactly what the terror group wants
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Speaker 4: to hear and wants.
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Speaker 3: World leaders to talk about.
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Speaker 4: And I've got to say Opposition leader Susan Lee was
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Speaker 4: strong on the matter.
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Speaker 3: Today.
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Speaker 8: We have hostages trapped in tunnels in Gaza. They've been
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Speaker 8: there since October the seventh, twenty twenty three. If Hamas
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Speaker 8: simply released those hostages, the war could end and surrendered,
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Speaker 8: and that would be in the interest of the Palestinian
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Speaker 8: people and every single person who's in distress.
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Speaker 4: Right now, Hamas is still active while Israel is fighting
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Speaker 4: for its existence. It's fighting a war on all fronts
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Speaker 4: against Tamas, the Hooties, Hesbala, and Iran. It's fighting a
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Speaker 4: war it did not start, and a war which could
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Speaker 4: end tomorrow. If Hamas just released the hostages. It's not
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Speaker 4: done that. In fact, a mus refused a new cease
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Speaker 4: fire deal proposed by Israel and the US on Friday.
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Speaker 3: Hamas is the issue as it always has been.
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Speaker 4: But thank goodness, we can look forward to get another
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Speaker 4: weekend of desperate for relevance, protesters and disruptions on home soil.
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Speaker 3: Let's bring in Tonight's panel.
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Speaker 4: Joining us is Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand and PR
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Speaker 4: Council Manager Director Christy McSweeney.
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Speaker 2: Hight to both of you.
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Speaker 3: For joining me. Now, look, I want to start with
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Speaker 3: net zero.
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Speaker 4: As I just mentioned before, Donald Trump is over in Europe.
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Speaker 4: He is absolutely dropping truth bombs about wind farms and
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Speaker 4: net zero, calling it a scam and a con job.
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Speaker 4: But Opposition leader Susan Lee is insisting on a review first.
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Speaker 3: This is what she said.
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Speaker 8: Individuals in my party room and in the National's party
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Speaker 8: room have passionate, well held views on this and we're
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Speaker 8: going to bring all of those views together in a
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Speaker 8: working group led by Dantean Christy.
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Speaker 4: Why do the Liberals need a review to tell them
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Speaker 4: what we already know our power bills are going in
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Speaker 4: the opposite direction.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, look of course, So I think what they need
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Speaker 11: to review of is their messaging around their capability to
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Speaker 11: do the hard work and to sell a message. Now,
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Speaker 11: the net zero message has been spun by the media
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Speaker 11: as the coalition doesn't believe in clim change. Now that's
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Speaker 11: not what the conversation is about. The conversation is about, well,
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Speaker 11: how do we best help regional communities who are facing
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Speaker 11: the burden of this transition. What's Australia's position now that
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Speaker 11: the rest of the world, most of the gdpaid developed economies,
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Speaker 11: are moving away from it. How does Australia reassess its
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Speaker 11: position since we first made this commitment now we're about
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Speaker 11: to make another commitment because Australia really wants to host
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Speaker 11: the COP meeting ahead of Turkey. And of course, if
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Speaker 11: you looked at COP last year, which was held in Jubai,
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Speaker 11: held in the Middle East, I mean, come on, you know,
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Speaker 11: what sort of what sort of virtue does this meeting
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Speaker 11: have if they're choosing to hold it there. You know
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Speaker 11: it's ridiculous. But that is Australia's position. But the coalition
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Speaker 11: needs to message that better because you know, the mainstream
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Speaker 11: media they will do a very good job from here
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Speaker 11: on in pitting the coalition again it's the Progressive Labor
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Speaker 11: Party in who doesn't believe in climate change.
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Speaker 3: It's not about that.
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Speaker 4: Well, no, I do agree. I think the messaging has
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Speaker 4: been pretty bad. But come on, do you really need
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Speaker 4: a review to tell you what we already know? But Joe, meantime,
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Speaker 4: I've got to ask you that the United Nations has
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Speaker 4: asked the PM not to settle for what's easy when
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Speaker 4: coming up with the twenty thirty five Vision's target. This
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Speaker 4: was a speech by UN Climate Chief Simon Steele. He's
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Speaker 4: in Sydney at the moment. He's thrown down the gaudleants
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Speaker 4: saying the question is how far are you willing to go?
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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, yeah.
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Speaker 12: It's amazing how there are so many climate zealots who
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Speaker 12: want everyone to sacrifice their jobs for the sake of
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Speaker 12: the environment. That doesn't just include coal mine as it
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Speaker 12: apparently includes prime ministers because they say.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, it doesn't matter, just go harder.
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Speaker 12: It's a bit like people saying that Peter Dutton should
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Speaker 12: have gone harder. In the other direction is standing on
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Speaker 12: the edge of the cliff. Just one step further and
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Speaker 12: you've got it mate, Good on you. It doesn't work
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Speaker 12: from the right, it doesn't work from the left. I
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Speaker 12: mean this is idiocy, plan and simple. I'm sick of
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Speaker 12: the hectoring and the lecturing from the UN. They can
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Speaker 12: just get up on their high horse and make these
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Speaker 12: kind of pronouncements. It is national governments and our national
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Speaker 12: government that actually has to make these things work. We
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Speaker 12: know that there have been struggles in rolling out wind
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Speaker 12: farms and transmission lines. There've been protested against farms and
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Speaker 12: community groups. That needs to be settled. We know there
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Speaker 12: have been problems getting international funding for Victoria's offshore wind farm,
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Speaker 12: so we need to find out if that can be
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Speaker 12: an ongoing financially viable investment for some other investor.
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Speaker 2: And we know there have.
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Speaker 12: Been problems with getting green hydrogen, so we've got and
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Speaker 12: again I'm someone who wants to see all these things succeed.
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Speaker 12: But the idea you could be looking at these kind
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Speaker 12: of issues that we haven't even yet resolved, and then
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Speaker 12: you have some knob in from the UN saying I
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Speaker 12: know you've got to come in and go even faster.
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Speaker 12: How does that help? That means absolutely nothing to nobody,
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Speaker 12: and that's why. And on the other direction, arguing about
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Speaker 12: net zero kind of doesn't mean anything either because we're
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Speaker 12: probably not going to get to it anyway.
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Speaker 3: All the markers are there.
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Speaker 4: That we're not going to achieve these net zero drivers,
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Speaker 4: So why do we need a review?
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Speaker 2: What do we need?
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Speaker 3: You know, focus on the Praduto absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Now I want to ask you both about the anti
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Speaker 4: Israel protests we're seeing one on the Sydney Harbor Bridge
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Speaker 4: this weekend, and of course the ones in Melbourne that
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Speaker 4: we just saw yesterday.
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Speaker 3: But Joe, I'll start with you.
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Speaker 4: You've got these anti Israel protests. They want to shut
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Speaker 4: down the Sydney Harbour bridge, the main artery to go
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Speaker 4: from A to B.
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Speaker 3: At what point do we say enough? Isn't it?
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Speaker 12: Well, it's a bit of a running theme, isn't it.
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Speaker 12: So You've got people who would much rather pontificate and
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Speaker 12: make it all about them, and look at me, Look
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Speaker 12: how committed I am than actually thinking about the outcomes,
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Speaker 12: thinking about what it is they say they want to achieve.
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Speaker 12: They don't because they are far too busy sabotaging their
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Speaker 12: own cause, but they claim they want to achieve it. Now,
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Speaker 12: I don't think ever since October seven, twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 12: there has been more international pressure on Israel and more
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Speaker 12: wider condemnation of the situation in Gaza. Now, leaving aside
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Speaker 12: whether you think that's just a mass propaganda or whether
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Speaker 12: you think it's actually real reporting coming from the scenes,
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Speaker 12: there has been a huge ground swell in international opprobrium
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Speaker 12: and condemnation against Israel, more than ever before. And what
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Speaker 12: do these knob ens want to do? They want to
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Speaker 12: kiss everybody off, make it all about them, disrupt people
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Speaker 12: who might otherwise be sympathetic to it by just showing
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Speaker 12: how much they've been jumping up and down about it,
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Speaker 12: like they have been making everyone else's lives a misery.
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Speaker 12: So talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Sometimes I
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Speaker 12: wish they'd go for another part of the body.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, enough is enough.
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Speaker 4: I mean seriously, now they want to shut down the
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Speaker 4: Harbor Bridge. But Christy over in Melbourne, Well it's your
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Speaker 4: home city. I know you're in Canberra at the moment.
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Speaker 4: The National Museum goes into lockdown over the weekend, one
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Speaker 4: thousand people protesting outside.
19:43
Speaker 3: You've got elderly kids, elderly.
19:45
Speaker 4: And young kids being taken out of the building, and
19:47
Speaker 4: the multicultural is A minister says, well, there's nothing to it.
19:52
Speaker 3: I mean enough is enough.
19:55
Speaker 11: Yeah, And of course and the board and the directors
19:57
Speaker 11: of the MGV they can't say anything because the MDV
20:01
Speaker 11: attracts significant Victorian government funding. But I think organizations, particularly
20:07
Speaker 11: our cultural institutions in Melbourne, of course, where there is
20:10
Speaker 11: a large cohort of Jewish people on boards and holding directorships,
20:16
Speaker 11: are about to start and I think the Victorian government
20:19
Speaker 11: is about to get a hearing. Now, what's really interesting
20:23
Speaker 11: In Victoria, the Premier stood up and said we're going
20:27
Speaker 11: to do something about the anti Semitic issues in Victoria.
20:32
Speaker 3: The legislation they proposed had a.
20:35
Speaker 11: Clause in it that said hate speech more or less
20:38
Speaker 11: was okay if it was done for political purposes, ie
20:43
Speaker 11: for political freedom. Now now read that legislation if anyone's
20:48
Speaker 11: interested at the Australian Council of Juries said, well, who's
20:51
Speaker 11: the arbiter of what's political hates speech and what's not.
20:55
Speaker 11: That's not helping people in Victoria facing these road test
21:00
Speaker 11: which clearly is very very anti Semitic, and you know,
21:05
Speaker 11: the government nothing to see here at a federal and
21:08
Speaker 11: state level.
21:09
Speaker 3: We've had enough in Melbourne. We've lived with it for
21:11
Speaker 3: too long. Absolutely.
21:13
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, just a ciner Allen need to
21:15
Speaker 4: consult with her Anti hate task Force or perhaps her
21:18
Speaker 4: minister before either of them can actually come up with
21:21
Speaker 4: a with a proper position on what.
21:24
Speaker 3: Is actually a problem. Now, look, I want to talk
21:26
Speaker 3: to you both about this exclusive.
21:28
Speaker 4: Story in the Daily Telegraph today reporting that young Australian
21:31
Speaker 4: drivers in New South Wales are having to wait up
21:33
Speaker 4: to five weeks to sit their tests because half of
21:36
Speaker 4: all foreign drivers are failing due to issues like struggling
21:40
Speaker 4: to read English road signs. Joe, let's be realistic if
21:45
Speaker 4: you can't read the road signs, you cannot get your license.
21:48
Speaker 12: I foiled my first license test, YEP, but signed on.
21:53
Speaker 3: I would read the signs right.
21:55
Speaker 2: It still didn't do us any good.
21:56
Speaker 4: But you have to be able to read the science.
21:58
Speaker 4: I think that is fundamental. And I want to ask
22:00
Speaker 4: you why you failed. Don't ask you what.
22:03
Speaker 3: But you have to be able to read.
22:04
Speaker 13: Road sign of course, of course you do.
22:06
Speaker 12: Although I have to say when you drive overseas, it's
22:09
Speaker 12: pretty universal. I was driving around all these sort of
22:11
Speaker 12: mountainous roads in Greece and Turkey many many years, about
22:14
Speaker 12: ten years ago, and it would have all these different signs.
22:16
Speaker 12: So the first sign would be like, there are little
22:18
Speaker 12: chickens on the road, and there'd be a little picture
22:20
Speaker 12: of some goats. There have be some goats, and they'd
22:22
Speaker 12: have a picture of some rocks on the road, and
22:25
Speaker 12: I had a picture of a cow. And then the
22:27
Speaker 12: next sign that came along, and I kid you not,
22:29
Speaker 12: was just an exclamation mark was we don't know what's coming.
22:32
Speaker 2: We don't know.
22:33
Speaker 3: Come on again, Christy.
22:35
Speaker 4: I maintain, if you can't read our road signs, don't
22:37
Speaker 4: go for your license.
22:38
Speaker 3: You shouldn't be on the road. Simple as that.
22:41
Speaker 11: Look, I failed two, so it's really clear all three
22:43
Speaker 11: of us from.
22:45
Speaker 2: A lets we should have been.
22:49
Speaker 11: That's right, Yeah, lack of coordination, not reading and comprehension skills.
22:53
Speaker 3: So given we all have media.
22:54
Speaker 11: Careers, that's probably good that we can celebrate the Week
22:59
Speaker 11: of read rather than be so coordinated, given that we're
23:03
Speaker 11: not out playing for Australia doing anything. But the part
23:08
Speaker 11: of this that got me was that you have to
23:11
Speaker 11: pass your test and turn it over from an international
23:14
Speaker 11: license to a domestic license within was it six months?
23:18
Speaker 11: What are you doing on the roads for six months?
23:21
Speaker 3: If you eat the side exactly?
23:24
Speaker 11: I mean that's a serious issue, isn't it that we've
23:27
Speaker 11: got a face we know?
23:29
Speaker 3: I mean if the government's got it, yeah it is.
23:31
Speaker 11: I mean, if the government's got evidence that most people
23:34
Speaker 11: are failing after six months, what are they doing them
23:37
Speaker 11: letting them on the road for that long in the
23:39
Speaker 11: first place?
23:39
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if there's so many issues, isn't there?
23:42
Speaker 3: Goodness me?
23:43
Speaker 4: But yes, we all failed. We should have bettered that
23:45
Speaker 4: before we did this topic. Christmamt Sweeney joke, hild see
23:49
Speaker 4: you on the road, I'll see you on the road.
23:51
Speaker 3: I'll be out the lights with you.
23:52
Speaker 4: All right, let's move on now, because just in the
23:54
Speaker 4: last few hours, the Senate has overwhelmingly voted down a
23:57
Speaker 4: push by One Nation leader Pauline Hanson to scrap net
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Speaker 4: zero by twenty fifty and prioritize cheap and reliable energy.
24:04
Speaker 3: Here was exchange.
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Speaker 14: A lot of the school children these days a crime.
24:09
Speaker 14: They're upset because they feel the world's coming to an end. Well,
24:12
Speaker 14: I'll tell you something, it's not. This has become a
24:15
Speaker 14: political football for those people just to use this to
24:19
Speaker 14: gain votes, the scaremongren that goes.
24:21
Speaker 3: On with the younger generation.
24:24
Speaker 4: One Nation senators were joined by Coalition senators Matt Canavan
24:27
Speaker 4: and Alex Antik and United Australia Party Senator Ralph Babett,
24:31
Speaker 4: making up seven in favor labor. The remainder of the Coalition,
24:35
Speaker 4: the cross Bench and the Greens all voted against Pauline
24:38
Speaker 4: Hanson's motion with thirty nine no's, and Senator Pauline Hanson
24:42
Speaker 4: joins me now, Senator, well, look, it was an overwhelming
24:45
Speaker 4: no by the Senate. What's your message to the coalition
24:48
Speaker 4: senators who won't divulge their position on this.
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Speaker 14: Well, there was only two on the Liberal Party, that
24:56
Speaker 14: was Jane Kim and Andrew McCloughlin that voted with Labor.
25:01
Speaker 14: The rest of them were out of the chamber. They
25:03
Speaker 14: abstained from voting. They're gutless and they're cowards because they
25:06
Speaker 14: couldn't put the name to it and they didn't want to.
25:08
Speaker 14: And I take my hat off to Matt Canavan and
25:10
Speaker 14: to Babet and to also alexanderik who actually supported the motion.
25:15
Speaker 14: We are fighting for their strands out there, the families,
25:17
Speaker 14: the small businesses, the farming sector, everyone that's doing it
25:20
Speaker 14: tough because the net zero is seeing them go under
25:23
Speaker 14: with high electricity costs. Every family out there, everyone who's
25:26
Speaker 14: watching this program knows that the electricity costs have gone
25:29
Speaker 14: up by hundreds of percent under this this face of
25:33
Speaker 14: this net zero, and it's just ridiculous. We're destroying our economy,
25:38
Speaker 14: our manufacturing industry, businesses, they're going overshore off seas, overseas,
25:42
Speaker 14: So it's just ridiculous.
25:45
Speaker 3: Oh look, I completely agree with you.
25:46
Speaker 4: I've got to play some audio of twenty one year
25:48
Speaker 4: old Labour Senator Charlotte Walker. She said that your motion
25:52
Speaker 4: shows that you have a severe lack of knowledge on
25:54
Speaker 4: the issue.
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Speaker 3: This is what she said.
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Speaker 15: The motion put forward by Senator Hanson too scripting or
26:00
Speaker 15: indicates a severe lack of knowledge and a complete disregard
26:04
Speaker 15: for the future of our generation, the future of our country.
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Speaker 3: Senator, is this the greater Thumberg era playing out in
26:12
Speaker 3: the Senate?
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Speaker 14: You better believe it, because she said she grew up
26:16
Speaker 14: on the farm, well farm, that it uses diesel, you know,
26:19
Speaker 14: petroleum products to actually do the farming machinery to actually run.
26:23
Speaker 14: And I don't think she really understands about what net
26:26
Speaker 14: zero is. And remember the question I asked, depending on
26:29
Speaker 14: one time, what is net zero? She couldn't even answer
26:31
Speaker 14: the question. Most of those parliamentarians have no idea about
26:34
Speaker 14: net zero. They can't debate you on the issue. They
26:36
Speaker 14: don't know the facts of figures. And this is why
26:38
Speaker 14: they just come in there and they just vote, you know,
26:41
Speaker 14: whichever way the wind's blowing, which where their whips.
26:44
Speaker 3: Are sitting in the chamber.
26:46
Speaker 14: We don't have those politicians that really have research and
26:50
Speaker 14: understand Our job is to research the legislation, to look
26:54
Speaker 14: at what's in the best interest for the people of
26:56
Speaker 14: this nation. And when I see people living homeless, people
26:59
Speaker 14: can't afford to put on the hitting all the cooling
27:01
Speaker 14: pensions that are actually dying because of it. We've seen
27:04
Speaker 14: what's happened in England and other countries around the world.
27:06
Speaker 14: Germany's worken up to themselves because the economy is in
27:10
Speaker 14: dire straits. We see that Trump has said no way
27:12
Speaker 14: in the world for our economy here, and we're the
27:15
Speaker 14: fools that are still being headed down this path. And
27:17
Speaker 14: that young kid is that's what I'm saying. She's no
27:20
Speaker 14: sooner Aro out of bloody university, out of her nappies
27:22
Speaker 14: that she's telling me. I don't know what the hell
27:24
Speaker 14: I'm talking about. When I've been on the floor of
27:26
Speaker 14: Parliament for the last nine years, I don't take any
27:29
Speaker 14: notice of her who she's trying to make a place
27:31
Speaker 14: in this parliament and congratulations she got elected to it.
27:34
Speaker 14: But don't come in and thinking that you're going to
27:37
Speaker 14: tell me what I know or I don't know when
27:39
Speaker 14: I've been dealing this for many years.
27:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're spot on, absolutely, And yeah, it's a
27:44
Speaker 4: shame that the Coalition's scurried away very quickly. They didn't
27:47
Speaker 4: want to hear about it. Now, look, I've got to
27:49
Speaker 4: ask you about migration policy. The Coalition is moving on
27:52
Speaker 4: from Peter Dutton's stance on it, with Shadow Immigration Minister
27:55
Speaker 4: Paul Scarr looking to adopt a policy focusing on empathy,
27:59
Speaker 4: empowerment and admiration. He said, quote, we are a party
28:02
Speaker 4: that believes passionately in the fundamental freedoms of the individual,
28:05
Speaker 4: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of association. So
28:09
Speaker 4: many of our migrants come from places where they don't
28:12
Speaker 4: have those freedoms. Said to look big, Australia is getting
28:14
Speaker 4: bigger by the day. Whatever happened to capping migration basic policy?
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Speaker 14: Well, and he wants the positives of migration, no worries.
28:23
Speaker 14: You go out and tell the people out there who
28:25
Speaker 14: can't get a house, they can't run a house, can't
28:27
Speaker 14: buy a house. And the high immigration that's coming into
28:29
Speaker 14: the country, is that what it is? Are you moving
28:32
Speaker 14: to the left now to appeal to those that have
28:35
Speaker 14: migrated to this country because we've had huge numbers come in.
28:38
Speaker 14: You know, in one year they're twenty two to twenty three,
28:40
Speaker 14: seven hundred and thirty seven thousand, and this year from
28:43
Speaker 14: the binning year till April it was two hundred and
28:45
Speaker 14: seventeen thousand with another thirty five thousand in May that
28:48
Speaker 14: have come into the country.
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Speaker 3: Oh that's a great move, Paul. You know, do you
28:51
Speaker 3: know what's.
28:51
Speaker 14: Happening in Queensland. A lot of people living homeless and
28:55
Speaker 14: I just don't understand the way of thinking. I'm not
28:58
Speaker 14: against immigration, Danika, what I am for the high numbers
29:01
Speaker 14: that were bringing into the country because Australians are suffering
29:05
Speaker 14: and it's a stupid they're appealing to those people, these
29:08
Speaker 14: ones that are coming out here. Yes, we can have empathy,
29:13
Speaker 14: but my empathy starts with the Australians that are here now,
29:17
Speaker 14: the ones that are homeless, the ones that can't get
29:20
Speaker 14: their own house, the future generations. What is out there
29:24
Speaker 14: for them if we keep bringing the high numbers in
29:26
Speaker 14: the country.
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Speaker 3: What about the people?
29:28
Speaker 14: What about you know, is it promising for those people
29:32
Speaker 14: who can't get the hospital beds that they need to have,
29:35
Speaker 14: the operations that they want. What about the nursing homes?
29:38
Speaker 14: What about the nis We're flooded under it. Although when
29:41
Speaker 14: you come out to the country, you straight away you
29:44
Speaker 14: can get on the ndis. That's why we've got over
29:46
Speaker 14: seven hundred thousand costmus fifty two billion a year. Sorry,
29:49
Speaker 14: paul My priority is for the people of Australia.
29:54
Speaker 16: First.
29:54
Speaker 14: They'll get my empathy, my caring and worrying about them
29:57
Speaker 14: first and foremost, before or worry about migrants refugees coming
30:00
Speaker 14: to this country. I have the empathy for those people
30:04
Speaker 14: that can't get the healthcare and the nursing homes and
30:07
Speaker 14: the education and the way of life and a decent
30:11
Speaker 14: standard living in this country first and foremost. That's my
30:14
Speaker 14: duty as an elected member of Parliament for Australia.
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Speaker 3: Oh good on you so well, said Senator.
30:20
Speaker 4: Look before we let you go, we're almost out of time,
30:22
Speaker 4: but I have to ask you about your uninvited guest
30:25
Speaker 4: at your place.
30:26
Speaker 2: This wee.
30:27
Speaker 3: Can you put this on your social media?
30:30
Speaker 4: This beast of a thing that you found in your backyard.
30:32
Speaker 4: I would have had to sell the house if it
30:34
Speaker 4: were me, But Senator I had to laugh. One of
30:36
Speaker 4: the comments somebody wrote, we'll set it to Pauline Hanson
30:39
Speaker 4: be giving the snake a welcome to country.
30:44
Speaker 14: No way in the wide world. They're good around the
30:46
Speaker 14: place for the vermin that type of thing. They're not venomous.
30:49
Speaker 14: It's the brown snake so.
30:51
Speaker 3: I worry about.
30:51
Speaker 14: But they still have them around the house and I
30:53
Speaker 14: don't tell my door from my kids that they're there,
30:56
Speaker 14: because otherwise they'll never come and see me again a visit.
30:59
Speaker 14: But anyway, they're friendly. They're friendly, not like the charmers
31:02
Speaker 14: in our to hear all the snakes in the Parliament here,
31:05
Speaker 14: so they're no problem to me.
31:07
Speaker 4: No fair enough, Probably a good break from that parliament
31:10
Speaker 4: then for you, Senator Pauline Hands and always good to
31:12
Speaker 4: chat with you.
31:13
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for joining to me on the show
31:15
Speaker 3: this evening. We'll still to come.
31:16
Speaker 4: Labour's beef import u turn continues to stir debate. We'll
31:20
Speaker 4: speak to Senator michaelia Cash. Plus the PM won't declare
31:23
Speaker 4: Palestine estate yet, but he's happy to pour scorn on Israel.
31:27
Speaker 4: Executive Council of Australian Juries Alex Ripchen will join me next.
31:33
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Well, we spoke earlier about.
31:35
Speaker 4: Labour's demonization of Israel and now have a listen to
31:37
Speaker 4: these comments by former Foreign Minister Bob Carr.
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Speaker 1: There's a pattern of behavior here that really demands comparison
31:45
Speaker 1: with the worst of the last hundred years of Stalin's Ukraine.
31:50
Speaker 1: The Warsaw ghetto of males greatly forward sam Emily's who
31:55
Speaker 1: have now gone for five days without a crumb of food.
32:00
Speaker 1: And the point is but the idea if controls all
32:04
Speaker 1: the leavers, it controls food excess, and it's opted to
32:07
Speaker 1: use its power, even on occasions, to shoot the people
32:13
Speaker 1: who are distributing the food.
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Speaker 3: This is just an absolute new low.
32:17
Speaker 4: Joining me now is Executive Counsel of Australian Jury co
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Speaker 4: CEO Alex Ripchen. Alex, thank you so much for joining me.
32:24
Speaker 4: What's your response to these comments?
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Speaker 13: Look, it's shameful, utterly despicable. And anyone who knows Bob
32:31
Speaker 13: Carr or has had the misfortune of sharing a conversation
32:34
Speaker 13: with Bob Carr, knows that the only thing that bobkar
32:36
Speaker 13: cares about is bobca. This is about him advancing his
32:39
Speaker 13: own agenda, giving effect to his deep contempt for members
32:44
Speaker 13: of the Jewish community, in particularly its leadership. This has
32:47
Speaker 13: little to do with solidarity with the Palestinine people and
32:50
Speaker 13: the historical distortions, the false analogies he made there are
32:53
Speaker 13: truly despicable. He mentioned their styalin starvation the Ukrainians. This
32:58
Speaker 13: was a famine man made in the night and thirties
33:00
Speaker 13: in which upwards of six million people died. He made
33:03
Speaker 13: comparisons to the Warsaw Ghetto, which is obviously one of
33:05
Speaker 13: the darkest chapters of the Holocaust. Now to compare that
33:08
Speaker 13: to what is happening in Gaza, where Israel at every
33:11
Speaker 13: term has sought to allow aid in by the truckload,
33:14
Speaker 13: where it has telegraphed every one of its moves credit
33:17
Speaker 13: humanitarian zones where people can seek shelter. This is a
33:21
Speaker 13: bloody and grinding war, there's no doubt, and people are suffering,
33:24
Speaker 13: there's no question about that. But this is a war
33:27
Speaker 13: that Israel did not choose, and this is a war
33:28
Speaker 13: that Hamas could end tomorrow if it accepted the ceasefire,
33:31
Speaker 13: which Israel has already accepted, or accepted a permanent end
33:34
Speaker 13: to the war. There is no comparison to be drawn
33:37
Speaker 13: with the most tyrannical regimes in history. But this is
33:39
Speaker 13: where we are today, where figures like this, former foreign
33:43
Speaker 13: ministers and premiers who still hold sway respect in sections
33:46
Speaker 13: of the Labor Party can say things like that it's
33:49
Speaker 13: part of a huge disinformation campaign and it results in
33:52
Speaker 13: increase anti Semitism here at home. That's the only thing
33:54
Speaker 13: that it achieves.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I just think it.
33:57
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, it was despicable, Absolutely despicable. I want
34:00
Speaker 4: to ask you about the Prime Minister. He's really walking
34:02
Speaker 4: both sides of the street when it comes to this issue.
34:04
Speaker 4: He said he wouldn't recognize Palestine as a state at
34:07
Speaker 4: the UN in September in one breath, but on the
34:10
Speaker 4: other hand continue to slam Israel.
34:12
Speaker 3: This is what he said.
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Speaker 12: It doesn't sound like you're about to do this in
34:16
Speaker 12: September or this year by it, but listening to the
34:18
Speaker 12: preconditions that you're laying out.
34:20
Speaker 9: Look, what we will do is we'll make a decision
34:23
Speaker 9: based upon.
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Speaker 2: The time.
34:27
Speaker 1: Is the time right now?
34:28
Speaker 13: Are we about to.
34:29
Speaker 1: Imminently do that?
34:30
Speaker 3: No, we are not at the General Assembly.
34:33
Speaker 9: Are we about to do that nowhere or not? But
34:36
Speaker 9: we will engage constructively. Well, quite clearly, it is a
34:41
Speaker 9: breach of international law to stop food being delivered, which
34:48
Speaker 9: was a decision that Israel made in March.
34:52
Speaker 12: And so it's breached international law.
34:54
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a lawyer.
34:57
Speaker 9: Those things will play out their care, but I'll tell
35:00
Speaker 9: you what it's a breach of It's a breach of
35:03
Speaker 9: decent humanity and of morality.
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Speaker 4: Alex it seems as though he's still leaving the door
35:09
Speaker 4: open to one day supporting a Palestinian statehood in the future.
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Speaker 13: Well, this is actually a positive development in the government's position.
35:20
Speaker 13: For a long time, they've spoken about a two state
35:23
Speaker 13: solution and the aspiration of the Palestinians to statehood. They've
35:26
Speaker 13: stipulated that it has to be a peaceful, vib and
35:29
Speaker 13: state alongside Israel. I'm not in place of it as
35:32
Speaker 13: many in the Palestinian movement aspired to, but the promise
35:36
Speaker 13: has also made clear, and the Foreign Minister also recently
35:39
Speaker 13: that Hamas can play no future role in Gaza, but
35:42
Speaker 13: there can be no thought of recognizing palestinan state while
35:45
Speaker 13: Hamas remains a fact of life and has effective control
35:48
Speaker 13: over that territory. At a press conference a couple of
35:50
Speaker 13: weeks ago, the Primisot also spoke about the rampant corruption,
35:54
Speaker 13: the nepotism, the ineptitude, the human rights abuses that occur
35:56
Speaker 13: in the West Bank where the palstin authority rules. These
36:00
Speaker 13: are the core issues. So when we talk about recognizing
36:02
Speaker 13: a Palestinian state, it's not a symbolic gesture and then
36:06
Speaker 13: the facts come afterwards. This is a serious business that's
36:09
Speaker 13: been undertaken. And if someone would have recognized a Palestinian
36:12
Speaker 13: state now as the French are purporting to do, it
36:15
Speaker 13: is the recognition of a fiction. It's the recognition of
36:17
Speaker 13: a failed state from the beginning. It's a recipe for
36:20
Speaker 13: more disasters. So the evolved position of the Australian government
36:23
Speaker 13: where they talk about recognition at some point down the track.
36:26
Speaker 13: But when certain conditions are met, when there are institutions
36:29
Speaker 13: of statehood, when there is some semblance of democracy and
36:32
Speaker 13: human rights, and the territories of Palestine's aspired to control,
36:35
Speaker 13: then there can be a conversation about statehood.
36:38
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:39
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But I guess as we know that the hostages
36:41
Speaker 4: are still there, there's still hostages underground. So I just
36:44
Speaker 4: you know, it's extraordinary that we're even having to have
36:46
Speaker 4: this discussion, Alex. Before we let you go, I just
36:49
Speaker 4: want to ask about the pro Palestinian protesters wanting to
36:52
Speaker 4: block the Sydney Harbor Bridge this weekend. The new South
36:55
Speaker 4: Wales Premier Chris Mins says he won't allow it. Are
36:58
Speaker 4: confident and he's going to be able to put his
36:59
Speaker 4: money where his mouth is on this.
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Speaker 13: Well, look, I think the premiere and the State of
37:04
Speaker 13: New South Wales and the police learn a very difficult
37:06
Speaker 13: lesson a few days after October seven, after the disgusting
37:10
Speaker 13: scenes on the steps of the opera House which shamed
37:12
Speaker 13: our country in the eyes of the world, and I
37:14
Speaker 13: think we're still reeling from it as a society when
37:16
Speaker 13: we look at what happened in the intervening in twenty
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Speaker 13: one months the christ of anti Semitism so much can
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Speaker 13: we traced back to that event and the lat's response
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Speaker 13: to it. So with that in mind, I'm sure the
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Speaker 13: Premier will hold firm. He's dealing with fanatics who may
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Speaker 13: seek to march or protest unlawfully anyway. But this is
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Speaker 13: a test for the police. Will they enforce the law
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Speaker 13: and ensure that this state is a state of laws
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Speaker 13: for all of us and not ruled by mobs and
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Speaker 13: fanatics who seek to keep us off our national landmarks,
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Speaker 13: who seek to paralyze the city on a weekend when
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Speaker 13: people just want to get to their weekend sports and
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Speaker 13: visit their family and friends. Is this the city for
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Speaker 13: all of us or for the fanatical few. That's the
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Speaker 13: question before us.
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Speaker 3: That is a very good point.
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Speaker 4: What will the New South Wales Police do exactly Alex Ripton.
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Speaker 4: Great to catch up as always, Thanks so much for
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Speaker 4: joining me on the show this evening.
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Speaker 3: We're coming up after the break.
38:05
Speaker 4: Trump announces a fresh trade deal with the EU amid
38:08
Speaker 4: ongoing tariff Talkskynis contributor Kosher Garda will join me. Plus,
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Speaker 4: Labour's beef u turn continues to inspire drama in Parliament.
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Speaker 3: Liberal Senator Machaya Cash is next welcome back, while Labour's.
38:22
Speaker 4: Public confusion on the beef issue is continuing after the
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Speaker 4: Trade Minister Don Farrell was forced to backflip on his
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Speaker 4: previous comments that Donald Trump had personally raised the issue
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Speaker 4: with Anthony ALBERIZI here was Opposition Leader Susan Leean questioned
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Speaker 4: Time today.
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Speaker 8: Yesterday, the Trade Minister seemed to be hallucinating on National
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Speaker 8: TV when he invented a conversation between the US President
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Speaker 8: and the Prime Minister about beef. How can labor be
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Speaker 8: trusted to secure tariff exemptions when the Trade Minister confuses
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Speaker 8: a public statement from the President with a leader to
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Speaker 8: lead a phone call that never happened.
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Speaker 9: I'm asked about statements by the US President and I
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Speaker 9: recall on the fifth of May twenty twenty five. He
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Speaker 9: said this Albanesi, I'm very friendly with He's very good,
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Speaker 9: He's a friend of mine. I can only say that
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Speaker 9: he's been very very nice to me, very respectful to me,
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Speaker 9: and you know, we've had a very good relationship. I
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Speaker 9: have no idea who the other person is that ran
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Speaker 9: against him.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a guy who can't even get
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Speaker 4: a meeting with the US President and yet answers the
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Speaker 4: question with warm fuzzies. Joy now is Liberal Senator Michaylia
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Speaker 4: Cash Sanata good.
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Speaker 3: To see you.
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Speaker 4: I thought that was a very odd response to Susan
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Speaker 4: Lee's question, what do you make of Labour's confusion on
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Speaker 4: the matter.
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Speaker 17: Well, I think it was even worse than on Daneika.
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Speaker 17: I mean, what Hubris the Prime Minister has in relation
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Speaker 17: to an issue that is just so important to the
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Speaker 17: Australian people, and that is, of course how strict biosecurity
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Speaker 17: standards this government, the Albanese government has made a decision
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Speaker 17: to let into Australia US beef born and raised in
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Speaker 17: Mexico and Canada. Australians have the right to know was
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Speaker 17: this decision made, as Labor says on the basis of
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Speaker 17: science and biosecurity or based on what Senator Farrell said
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Speaker 17: yesterday then didn't say yesterday, but also the comments by
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Speaker 17: of course the US Trade Representative jameson Grea directly connecting
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Speaker 17: it to a trade relationship, in other words, to get
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Speaker 17: a trade deal done. Australians take biosecurity seriously. The Prime
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Speaker 17: Minister quite frankly, was contemptuous of Australians today in his
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Speaker 17: answer to the question all we want to know is
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Speaker 17: on what was the basis upon which this decision was made?
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Speaker 17: And at the moment there is so much confusion out there,
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Speaker 17: Senator Pharrell saying one thing, the Prime Minister another. Enough
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Speaker 17: is enough. Australians have the right to know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: It sounds like nobody within labor knows what's going on
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Speaker 4: on that very important issue. Right now now, I want
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Speaker 4: to ask you about the situation in the Middle East.
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Speaker 4: Israel's embassy in camera has claimed that there is no
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Speaker 4: starvation in Gaza and the images of emaciated children from
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Speaker 4: the Palestinian enclave are part of a false campaign by
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Speaker 4: Hamas Satza.
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Speaker 3: Can I ask you firstly what.
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Speaker 4: You make of this and also the Prime Minister's tone
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Speaker 4: on Israel has become stronger than ever. He would not
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Speaker 4: rule out recognizing a Palestinian statehood in the future.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of all this?
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Speaker 17: Well, in the first instance, there are a lot of
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Speaker 17: conflicting reports now coming out of Gaza, but I have
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Speaker 17: to say the images regard they are distressing. The question
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Speaker 17: needs to be asked, should more aid be getting into Gaza.
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Speaker 3: The answer is yes, and both the.
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Speaker 17: International agencies and Israel should be doing what they can
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Speaker 17: to facilitate that. But the moral obligation here lies directly
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Speaker 17: at the foot of the terrorists Humus. They started this
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Speaker 17: war when they butchered and slaughtered twelve hundred Israelis. And
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Speaker 17: what Penny Wog and Anthony Albanesi seem to refuse to
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Speaker 17: admit is that Hamask could end the war tomorrow, They
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Speaker 17: could release the hostages and they could lay down their arms.
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Speaker 17: He must choosers to prolong this war and just don't
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Speaker 17: aid in any event. The aid that goes into Gaza Janika,
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Speaker 17: it's currently being there are credit reports that Hamas is
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Speaker 17: taking it. What Israel is trying to do is put
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Speaker 17: in place a process that gets the aid that goes
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Speaker 17: in directly to.
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Speaker 3: The civilians in Gaza. That's what needs to happen.
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Speaker 17: And as far as Anthony Albanesi and Penniwongo when it
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Speaker 17: comes to recognizing a Palestinian state, shame on them for
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Speaker 17: even thinking about the recognition of a Palestinian state when
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Speaker 17: the terrorists are in control of Gaza, Shame on them.
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Speaker 4: Exactly, Hamas is still active and there are all those
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Speaker 4: hostages still underneath, about fifty of them.
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Speaker 3: We don't know if they're dead or alive. So to
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Speaker 3: even be having this conversation right now is just so Pepetuary.
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Speaker 3: It's an absolute disgrace. I agree.
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Speaker 4: Now you are backing a wa Liberal Party motion to
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Speaker 4: scrap welcome to Country and net zero. I've got to say, Senator,
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Speaker 4: you have been praised in the last few days for
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Speaker 4: your stance on these matters, but also your incredible support
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Speaker 4: of Decenter nampajimp for Price in the Senate on Thursday. Now,
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Speaker 4: I know you're a senator, you're in the wrong house
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Speaker 4: right now, but I've got to ask you, have you
43:43
Speaker 4: got leadership ambitions.
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Speaker 17: I love the Senate, I love my role as a Senator.
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Speaker 17: The only ambition I have is to replace Penny Wong
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Speaker 17: as the leader of the government in the Senate. Just
43:56
Speaker 17: not on layor side, but just in relation to Susan Lee.
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Speaker 17: You know, she is doing a great job post the
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Speaker 17: election a loss in actually allowing us as a liberal
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Speaker 17: party to have a discussion in relation to our policies.
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Speaker 3: So I think that is actually a good thing.
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Speaker 4: So you're fully behind Susan Lee because I know on
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Speaker 4: the issues of net zero and on everything else she's
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Speaker 4: consulting with the party. She's taking her time to come
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Speaker 4: up with a decision. You've been very clear on your decision.
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Speaker 4: So is there a split in the party. No, not
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Speaker 4: at all as I've seen. I mean, as Susan has
44:30
Speaker 4: made it very clear to us. All our policies are
44:33
Speaker 4: up to are up for review, but our values are not.
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Speaker 4: So I am very pleased that we are now able
44:40
Speaker 4: to have these discussions. They are constructive and ultimately we
44:45
Speaker 4: will form an opinion as a party on a number
44:48
Speaker 4: of policy issues.
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Speaker 3: All right, we'll be.
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Speaker 4: Stay tuned for that. Then sat up to macallay Cash.
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Speaker 4: Good to speak with you as always, Thanks so much
44:54
Speaker 4: for Johnny mel right to be with you after the
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Speaker 4: break A new trade deal and some choice worth on
45:00
Speaker 4: renewable energy. Skyeus contributor Kosher Garda fills us in on
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Speaker 4: Trump's europe visit.
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Speaker 3: Next welcome back.
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Speaker 4: Let's get straight into the latest and US politics. Now
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Speaker 4: joining me is sky News contributor Kosher Garda. Kosha, thank
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Speaker 4: you so much for joining me. I'll get back to
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's net zero comments shortly that I played earlier
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Speaker 4: on the show, but I want to start with his
45:22
Speaker 4: criticism of the EU's migration policy.
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Speaker 3: This is what he said.
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Speaker 5: Immigration. Europe has a tremendous problem. We do too, but
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Speaker 5: we've sealed our borders. We have nobody coming in. I
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Speaker 5: think they're going to end up in the same place.
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Speaker 5: You might as well go there, quicker.
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Speaker 3: Kosher.
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Speaker 4: The extraordinary thing about all of Donald Trump's comments was
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Speaker 4: that he actually made them in front of the European
45:45
Speaker 4: Commission President Ursula von Laden. She must have been thinking, goodness,
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Speaker 4: just get me out of the room.
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Speaker 3: But he's not wrong, is he.
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Speaker 2: He is not.
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Speaker 16: He's got the wind and sales. He's got the truth
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Speaker 16: on his side for these issues, because we all know
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Speaker 16: the debacle really that immigration policy has been for many
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Speaker 16: countries in the Western sphere over the last half century,
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Speaker 16: and the other issues.
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Speaker 3: That he touched on.
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Speaker 16: I found the optics really interesting too, Danika, that it's
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Speaker 16: his property while he is in another country. You know,
46:15
Speaker 16: he's got these beautiful golf courses and the opulence and
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Speaker 16: the wealth and the success and all of that that
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Speaker 16: sort of undergirds his presence on top of having the
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Speaker 16: correct position on these policies, and there isn't so much
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Speaker 16: that the other world leaders can say. They sort of
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Speaker 16: have to go through the lions den and it's kind
46:32
Speaker 16: of a right of passage, I would say right now
46:35
Speaker 16: to cut these trade deals with the US.
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Speaker 3: In the Trump administration, well, I.
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Speaker 4: Thought it was extraordinary because Australia obviously we're arguing over
46:41
Speaker 4: net Ziahia. Yeah, you've got President Trump giving the European
46:46
Speaker 4: Commission president a lesson in renewables.
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Speaker 3: This is what he said.
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Speaker 2: It's the most expensive form of energy. It's no good.
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Speaker 5: They're made in China, almost all of them. The whole
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Speaker 5: thing is a conjeb.
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Speaker 3: I thought that was absolutely brilliant.
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Speaker 4: I mean, we know that Europe in particular are plowing
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Speaker 4: through on this renewables on the experiment, just like we
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Speaker 4: are in Australia.
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Speaker 3: But he's really showing the world how to be upfront
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Speaker 3: when it comes tonight. Zero.
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Speaker 16: Yes, he's been showing the world that I think for
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Speaker 16: the past decade on so many issues, including this one,
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Speaker 16: where again the public opinion is on his side, common
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Speaker 16: sense is on his side.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't work.
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Speaker 16: We can do it around the margins, but you can't
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Speaker 16: sustain huge populations with the level of renewables that they
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Speaker 16: seem to purport and push and here as well and elsewhere,
47:37
Speaker 16: not to mention the fact that the supply chains are
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Speaker 16: not really that green if you look at the fact
47:42
Speaker 16: that they're made in China, or they dig up rare ertz,
47:44
Speaker 16: or like, how are these things disposed of after their
47:46
Speaker 16: useful life is over?
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Speaker 3: And all the rest of it.
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Speaker 16: So he's laying that down bare and everyone knows it
47:51
Speaker 16: and finds it. I think refreshing that there's somebody out
47:54
Speaker 16: there and actually the most powerful person in the world
47:56
Speaker 16: speaking common sense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I couldn't agree more. Let's talk trade.
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Speaker 4: The USA has reached a framework deal with the EU,
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Speaker 4: with Donald Trump announcing a fifteen percent flat import tariff
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Speaker 4: on most EU goods going into the US.
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Speaker 3: Here he was talking about the agreement.
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Speaker 2: I just want to congratulate you. I think it's I
48:16
Speaker 2: think it's great that we.
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Speaker 5: Made a deal today instead of playing games and maybe
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Speaker 5: not making a deal at all.
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Speaker 2: I think it's I'm going to let you say, but
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Speaker 2: I think it's the biggest deal ever made. Thank you
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Speaker 2: very much.
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Speaker 3: Congratulations, Jee Kosher. What a whirl wind for Ursulu roth
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Speaker 3: One mine is saying this, one minute is saying that.
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Speaker 4: But look, I mean, what do you make of this deal?
48:38
Speaker 4: And does it also just go to show how Donald
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Speaker 4: Trump operates? It's a face to face agreement on trade. Hello,
48:45
Speaker 4: Anthony Albert Easy.
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Speaker 16: Yes, I think there are lots of lessons there for
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Speaker 16: Prime ministrab and Easy among others. Look, this is a
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Speaker 16: renegotiation of the largest bilateral trade relationship on planet Earth.
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Speaker 3: So it is a big deal.
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Speaker 16: And I can tell you from the American perspective, people
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Speaker 16: are very happy with the framework because it feels like
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Speaker 16: something even better than reciprocity. It's almost like payback for
49:08
Speaker 16: what many back home feel has been the US getting
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Speaker 16: ripped off, so to speak, running two hundred billion plus
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Speaker 16: trade deficits for Europe suffering from all these protectionist measures
49:18
Speaker 16: that prevents US cars from being exported into Europe and
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Speaker 16: not the other way around. Same thing with agriculture and
49:24
Speaker 16: so on and so forth. So this deal seems to
49:28
Speaker 16: have righted that ship from an American perspective. From the
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Speaker 16: European perspective, a lot of people are not happy. I
49:33
Speaker 16: think Ursula went back home and copped a lot of
49:36
Speaker 16: flak from everybody, from Marine La Penn to other leaders
49:39
Speaker 16: who believe that she gave too much, didn't get enough
49:42
Speaker 16: by way of concessions. And what it's doing is it's
49:44
Speaker 16: really cementing the position of Europe being even more reliant
49:49
Speaker 16: on the US in this century, which is not probably
49:51
Speaker 16: where they want to be. But that's kind of what
49:53
Speaker 16: it looks like in terms of just the lopsided nature
49:56
Speaker 16: of everything from tariffs to the investments they're going to
49:58
Speaker 16: have to make in the US to open up their
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Speaker 16: markets to a greater extent than the US will. So
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Speaker 16: we see it as rebalancing, but a lot of Europeans
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Speaker 16: are not happy with it today.
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Speaker 4: And it'd be interesting to see how it goes at
50:08
Speaker 4: Kosher Garda. We've got to leave it there. Thanks very
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Speaker 4: much for joining me on the show. Thank you for
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Speaker 4: your company.
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Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Paul Murray is back in the man cave. Goodnight,