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- 0:00Speaker 1: Huge French Martana comes out tomorrow, and he was saying
- 0:04Speaker 1: what most people say when they leave the major label.
- 0:06Speaker 1: There's no the major label system. He said he never
- 0:09Speaker 1: made money from major label. He said that outside of
- 0:11Speaker 1: his advance. He said he sold ten million records with
- 0:14Speaker 1: that song with sway Lee.
- 0:16Speaker 2: He said he never made money from the song.
- 0:19Speaker 1: He never made money in his career other than an advance.
- 0:23Speaker 3: I can tell you why nobody has that. Okay, so
- 0:27Speaker 3: this is a little dirty secret in the music business
- 0:29Speaker 3: that we don't talk about enough.
- 0:31Speaker 4: But the problem, the.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Reason why nobody's able to make money in the music
- 0:34Speaker 3: business as far as producers and writers on their points
- 0:37Speaker 3: and stuff like that, is because artists always take out
- 0:39Speaker 3: advances against the money coming. So yeah, you might not
- 0:42Speaker 3: have got paid for Unforgettable, but because instead of waiting
- 0:46Speaker 3: for the nine months for them to calculate or get
- 0:48Speaker 3: your money, they came back to you and said, hey,
- 0:51Speaker 3: she's doing good.
- 0:51Speaker 4: You want another deal, And you said why not.
- 0:54Speaker 3: All they did was buried the dead under that new
- 0:56Speaker 3: deal and keep it that like it's like like you
- 0:59Speaker 3: can be more. Most major artists are in debt at
- 1:02Speaker 3: major labels on purpose. That's the model that they played business,
- 1:06Speaker 3: that we keep them in debt. They're not forensically looking
- 1:08Speaker 3: at the companies now, they just got an advance.
- 1:11Speaker 4: That is every I want you to ask a shot.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Anytime you're asking artists or executive make this a part
- 1:16Speaker 3: of your questions.
- 1:17Speaker 4: Do you know anybody ever got a royalty check?
- 1:20Speaker 3: I've a diminic record with RCA right now, and I'm
- 1:23Speaker 3: still two hundred thousand I think at the last royalty
- 1:26Speaker 3: statement I got, I'm still.
- 1:27Speaker 4: One hundred and forty nine thousand in the whole.
- 1:29Speaker 2: How explain so with Diamond? What record?
- 1:33Speaker 4: Oh, it's it's a record idea.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Oh my god's rock City locked Away with Adam Fish
- 1:36Speaker 3: and Adam Leavin. It was a big pop record, but
- 1:38Speaker 3: it's Donald's And I'm like, we ain't never got a
- 1:40Speaker 3: royalty check forever.
- 1:41Speaker 2: So you're saying, now watch this now.
- 1:43Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you some I'm gonna just say this
- 1:44Speaker 4: real quick.
- 1:45Speaker 3: For the first time, because we hot, I was able
- 1:47Speaker 3: to negotiate a deal without without debt.
- 1:50Speaker 4: Basically, what's it called unrecoupable points.
- 1:53Speaker 3: I negotiate that we did one record last year, one
- 1:56Speaker 3: record I made it we made I think we probably
- 1:59Speaker 3: made about eight hundred nine hundred K from that song
- 2:02Speaker 3: and royalties in less than the year of it being released.
- 2:04Speaker 3: I mean and within the year of it being released.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Because we got our points unrecoupable. You can't count it
- 2:09Speaker 3: against that. My points come to me from dollar one.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Most points, most deals that you get paid after we recoup,
- 2:15Speaker 3: when do we know you recouped?
- 2:17Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 2:18Speaker 5: And for the artists and for the business people, how
- 2:20Speaker 5: can you even track when they recoup if you're not
- 2:24Speaker 5: allowed to see the accountant.
- 2:25Speaker 4: You have to hire a forensic expert. I know one
- 2:28Speaker 4: by the way. I'm starting to company with.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Them, Forensic account cut Smart.
- 2:31Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to find someone that reads charts, that
- 2:35Speaker 3: understands what's missing and that can help you get your money.
- 2:38Speaker 4: This guy s found billions of dollars.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking to French Montamna about that. But
- 2:41Speaker 1: it's not even just the music industry. You look at
- 2:43Speaker 1: book industry, look at any type of thing. Like it's
- 2:45Speaker 1: like anytime somebody said, like the royalty thing, it's a
- 2:49Speaker 1: catch twenty two because it's like, do they only say,
- 2:52Speaker 1: don't take advanced money, take the royalty money, But then
- 2:55Speaker 1: I gotta trust you.
- 2:56Speaker 2: I don't know what the royalty money actually is.
- 2:58Speaker 1: You got, so the only thing you really can trust
- 3:00Speaker 1: is the advanced because that's money right here in my
- 3:02Speaker 1: pocket right now that I know, I know, you get
- 3:04Speaker 1: me two million dollars that I know what that is.
- 3:06Speaker 1: You're saying, Okay, the smart thing is, don't take no
- 3:08Speaker 1: money up front. Just take a fifteen percent royalty for
- 3:11Speaker 1: the perpetuity of the album. Bro but fifty who's calculating
- 3:15Speaker 1: this fifteen percent?
- 3:16Speaker 3: But to me, to me, that's when it becomes you
- 3:19Speaker 3: have to have your business together and like you just
- 3:21Speaker 3: have to understand it. But Doug, it's so many I
- 3:24Speaker 3: remember watching Postalon probably has never seen a royalty check
- 3:27Speaker 3: and he's one of the biggest semin artists.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Of all time. Taylor Swift probably has.
- 3:31Speaker 3: But when they said Drake got you know what they said,
- 3:33Speaker 3: Drake got half a billity. That half a billity was
- 3:35Speaker 3: probably four hundred and fifty million of it was probably
- 3:38Speaker 3: money that they owed him.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Throw them and then what.
- 3:39Speaker 3: They do with they seven re shots his half a
- 3:41Speaker 3: billion now gonna make us five more albums. And he's
- 3:44Speaker 3: so happy that he got half a billion. He realizing
- 3:47Speaker 3: they owe me that.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Then they get to cost the lot, realize the Yeah,
- 3:50Speaker 2: this is the.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Difference between the mate. This is the object of every
- 3:53Speaker 4: record label.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Keep them in debt a second bank.
- 3:57Speaker 4: It's a bank. Keep them in debt to the loan.
- 3:59Speaker 4: They ain't looking at it our books.
- 4:00Speaker 3: Ain't nobody like, ain't nobody three million in the hole
- 4:03Speaker 3: saying let me go look at your books.
- 4:05Speaker 4: Show has down trying to find an extra hundred k.
- 4:07Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 4:08Speaker 3: But like if you if you like right at that
- 4:10Speaker 3: customd you like. That's how I think fifty cent got
- 4:12Speaker 3: out his deal in it. So he all found out
- 4:15Speaker 3: they owed him like eighteen million dollars and was like,
- 4:18Speaker 3: just let me be free instead of paying me the
- 4:20Speaker 3: eighteen million.
- 4:20Speaker 4: And that's how he got That's how the rum I
- 4:22Speaker 4: heard how he got his deal. These labels played dirty games, bro.
- 4:24Speaker 4: But when you look at the big buildings and.
- 4:26Speaker 3: The security and the nice dinners and the corporate cards,
- 4:29Speaker 3: who the fuck is paying.
- 4:30Speaker 2: For all of that? Yes, we are, we are.
- 4:35Speaker 3: They give us advances, then we pay for their lifestyle,
- 4:37Speaker 3: and then we gonna make money from other things.
- 4:39Speaker 4: That's how everybody has done it.
- 4:41Speaker 5: For anyone who wants to break into the industry. Is
- 4:44Speaker 5: there a book that you can recommend? And like, why
- 4:46Speaker 5: hasn't anyone written a not a tell all, but like
- 4:50Speaker 5: a business book about the music industry.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Well, the book that everybody says to read is that
- 4:56Speaker 3: men everything you know about the music business. I wrote
- 5:00Speaker 3: a prequel to that book, and it's called The Artists Agreements.
- 5:02Speaker 3: I'm like literally talking to publishers right now, and it's like,
- 5:05Speaker 3: how I describe it is is it's like how you
- 5:08Speaker 3: It's like it's the prequel to his book. His book
- 5:10Speaker 3: tells you about the business. You don't even know the
- 5:12Speaker 3: business if you ain't in this motherfucker.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Like you come in and wrote tell my asking about
- 5:16Speaker 4: your masters. You ain't even man it hit yet. You
- 5:18Speaker 4: don't even know how to write a song.
- 5:19Speaker 3: So my book is showing you how to be creative
- 5:22Speaker 3: and get into the business, and then you do that.
- 5:24Speaker 3: But I wrote one because I feel the same when
- 5:26Speaker 3: you feel. I'm just like, man, why don't nobody think
- 5:28Speaker 3: that this is important? Music is, Forcally, gonna be the
- 5:30Speaker 3: one thing that every kid is gonna want to get
- 5:32Speaker 3: into at.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Some point in their life. Sports has got to figure
- 5:36Speaker 4: the fuck out.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Music We still learning what's the worst deal that you
- 5:40Speaker 1: spaient ever, Like, what's the worst deal ever?
- 5:43Speaker 4: Like what you mean?
- 5:44Speaker 3: Like like the worst deals ever keep you trapped in
- 5:46Speaker 3: it and don't return the ship back to you.
- 5:48Speaker 4: The worst deals ever have the word perpetuity in it.
- 5:54Speaker 3: Yes, the worst deal is like like like, let me
- 5:56Speaker 3: give you all some shit that I had to learn.
- 5:57Speaker 4: All right, So you remember that song Mike.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Will Miley Cyrus Wiskalief for Juicy J in the club
- 6:04Speaker 3: Higher Perk with some shades on.
- 6:07Speaker 4: We did that record, right, record goes triple platinum.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Yeah, we got the royalty check for it, but it
- 6:12Speaker 3: doesn't count what you mean? Okay, So it was a single,
- 6:16Speaker 3: It wasn't released on an album. The only way records
- 6:18Speaker 3: counted and your deal is if they were released on
- 6:21Speaker 3: an album album. So Mike Will put that out as
- 6:24Speaker 3: a single, three million, triple platinum. We don't get that
- 6:28Speaker 3: don't count against our deal. That's when I wanted to
- 6:29Speaker 3: start renegotiating. That's when I figured out, like what and
- 6:33Speaker 3: I renegotiating my deal to take M d R C
- 6:36Speaker 3: out and just make it releases.
- 6:38Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 6:39Speaker 3: People are sucking deals right now because they putting out music,
- 6:41Speaker 3: and it's just not coming out on one of the
- 6:43Speaker 3: three majors.
- 6:43Speaker 2: That don't count, yeah, or they want to allow you
- 6:45Speaker 2: to yeah.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Like it's like it's a it's a dirty game, and
- 6:48Speaker 3: it's all about rights, and it's all about people who
- 6:51Speaker 3: aren't talented trying to maintain rights of the people who are.
- 6:55Speaker 5: If you have to do it all over again, what
- 6:58Speaker 5: you still going to the music industry knowing everything that
- 7:00Speaker 5: you know what you putting on the industry.
- 7:03Speaker 4: I would I would go on this shear, I would
- 7:04Speaker 4: have ran circles around it.
- 7:05Speaker 3: The music industry is the easiest business to win in
- 7:07Speaker 3: because everybody in it, for the most part, is low
- 7:10Speaker 3: i Q.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Ok what I let me say.
- 7:13Speaker 3: What I mean by that is in lo i Q
- 7:15Speaker 3: is not disrespectful. Lo IQ just means that they they
- 7:17Speaker 3: they live in their creative gene.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Okay, that's what.
- 7:21Speaker 3: Makes jay Z so ill and even NOAs now because
- 7:24Speaker 3: they're not just.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Brilliantly talented mass brilliant businessman.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Also, yeah, you feel me so when I say the
- 7:31Speaker 3: music business has low IQ people meaning it's like like
- 7:35Speaker 3: my nigga. If a nigga puts out a song in
- 7:37Speaker 3: the hood of fucking Kansas City and he's the hottest
- 7:40Speaker 3: nigga in the world. And now you got all these
- 7:42Speaker 3: big people and all these buildings talking to him. This
- 7:44Speaker 3: nigga don't know what the game. He don't understand that
- 7:48Speaker 3: part of the game. I was just on the phone
- 7:49Speaker 3: arguing with an artist because he's, like my lawyer said,
- 7:51Speaker 3: But my lawyer said, I'm like, your lawyer only says
- 7:53Speaker 3: that because that's.
- 7:54Speaker 4: How he gets paid. Bro listen to someone that plays
- 7:57Speaker 4: the game.
- 7:57Speaker 3: So what I mean by that is like, this business
- 7:59Speaker 3: is to work, and that's why so many people fall
- 8:01Speaker 3: out with artists because the artists they're not coming in thinking,
- 8:05Speaker 3: they're coming in feeling the brain is not being used in.
- 8:07Speaker 4: The music business.
- 8:08Speaker 6: The feeling is I feel like with Shah can take
- 8:11Speaker 6: me farther than Ray. So I'm gonna fuck right over
- 8:13Speaker 6: because I feel so. And it's based on fears, like, hey,
- 8:18Speaker 6: you know, come over here with us, you might not
- 8:20Speaker 6: ever get there. It's based on fear.
- 8:23Speaker 4: So for me, it's like the easiest business to win
- 8:25Speaker 4: in is the music business.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Because I mean, I want to say this to be
- 8:29Speaker 3: an asshole, but like, in what world does someone like
- 8:32Speaker 3: a sexy red become as rich as he became without
- 8:35Speaker 3: hip hop music.
- 8:36Speaker 1: But when you said the low IQ people, because what
- 8:40Speaker 1: people are thinking is that you're going to take advantage
- 8:42Speaker 1: of people like it's like, oh.
- 8:43Speaker 3: But that's the business we end it is like, this
- 8:46Speaker 3: is the only business where you have people signing to
- 8:49Speaker 3: you for you on eighty five percent of them and
- 8:52Speaker 3: them to get fifteen percent of it. That's not people
- 8:55Speaker 3: that's thinking if the music business is going to change
- 8:58Speaker 3: in the future, because entrepreneurs he it now.
- 9:00Speaker 4: But when I say low IQ people, that's like, shit,
- 9:03Speaker 4: I'm a low IQ person. Nigga.
- 9:05Speaker 3: I thought maybe I could do music because I wasn't
- 9:07Speaker 3: the smartest nigga in school. Maybe I could figure music
- 9:09Speaker 3: out and then it was easy for me.
- 9:11Speaker 2: But it wasn't.
- 9:11Speaker 4: It's not go ahead.
- 9:12Speaker 2: But when you said you said