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The entire broadcast from Tuesday 06/23/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Report is sponsored by rockauto.com.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon. 3-0-6 in the afternoon. It's Tuesday, June 23rd.
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  Speaker 2: Ron Firm with you until we solve the world's problems,
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  Speaker 2: and then we'll call it a day. How's that sound?
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  Speaker 3: 330-729-9977.
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  Speaker 4: 330-729-9977.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get you through to us on this Tuesday afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: 330-729-9977.
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  Speaker 2: Numerous things to talk about today. And something that we...
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  Speaker 2: Where was it? I mean, it's still hard to grasp
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  Speaker 2: this whole deal with Schwebel's, isn't it, locally here, that
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  Speaker 2: is going on here? And I'd like to get some comments,
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  Speaker 2: particularly from people that had worked there or are working there,
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  Speaker 2: about what's going on. It's hard to imagine Schwebel's failing.
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  Speaker 2: It's just hard to imagine it. So they say Schwebel's
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  Speaker 2: to wrap up operations after July 4th. This from the Tribune,
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  Speaker 2: Schwebel Baking Company, a Mahoning Valley institution, founded in 1906,
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  Speaker 2: plans to end operations after the 4th of July holiday.
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  Speaker 2: The company announced Wednesday in a news release. The Schwebel's
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  Speaker 2: brand has been known for the highest quality of bread
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  Speaker 2: buns and other bakery products for over 100 years, and
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  Speaker 2: we're devastated to reach the point where liquidation is the
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  Speaker 2: only remaining option. Steve Cooper, Schwebel's CEO right there, said that.
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  Speaker 2: We've worked with our advisors, he says, for several months
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  Speaker 2: to identify a buyer or investment source. However, despite significant
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  Speaker 2: efforts to adopt to changing market conditions and secure additional investments,
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  Speaker 2: the company was unable to establish a sustainable path forward.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, you know what this guy is saying? When
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  Speaker 2: Schwebel's looked at everything, there wasn't a path forward after
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  Speaker 2: 100 years. The number of affected workers was not released.
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  Speaker 2: I got a subsequent article about that. As of Wednesday nights,
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  Speaker 2: this is last week, the Audit Department of Justice and
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  Speaker 2: Family Services website did not list the notification that they need.
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  Speaker 2: The company's union workers are associated with BCTGM International Union
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  Speaker 2: Local 19, based in Cleveland. The union represents manufacturing, production workers, maintenance,
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  Speaker 2: sanitation workers in the bakery, tobacco and... That industry phone
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  Speaker 2: calls and emails to union officials seeking comment were not
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  Speaker 2: answered as of Wednesday's deadline. Let's see. Everyone's walking around
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  Speaker 2: the plants, said a person who answered the phone at
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  Speaker 2: Schwebel's after hours. They're trying to get a hold of
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  Speaker 2: the union. They were never told. They heard it through
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  Speaker 2: the news channels. So imagine that. So imagine that the workers,
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  Speaker 2: the Schwebel's family, the workers down there, Hear about this
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  Speaker 2: through the news media. Hey, by the way, we're closing
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  Speaker 2: up shop. Schwebel's makes branded and private label bakery products
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  Speaker 2: at its bakeries in Youngstown and one that's 30 minutes
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  Speaker 2: east of Columbus. Its bread, buns, and rolls are distributed
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  Speaker 2: to retail, grocery, food services, institutional customers. Schwebel said it
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  Speaker 2: has faced significant operational and financial constraints for many years.
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  Speaker 2: The company said these challenges include aging manufacturing facilities and equipment,
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  Speaker 2: costly labor contracts and pension obligations, and consumer trends depressing
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  Speaker 2: demand for traditional bakery and bread products. What do you
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  Speaker 2: make of that? So let's see, what else did I,
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  Speaker 2: just bear with me here. Let's see, what else did I,
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  Speaker 2: I was reading this today that on WKBN, Cleveland-based Orlando
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  Speaker 2: Baking Company is inviting Schwebel workers who will be laid
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  Speaker 2: off soon to apply for jobs with them. Orlando announced
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  Speaker 2: Monday that it wants Schwebel workers to know their opportunities
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  Speaker 2: at Orlando Baking where their experience, skills, and commitment will
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  Speaker 2: be valued, the notice read. We have tremendous respect for
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  Speaker 2: the men and women that help make Schwebel's a trusted
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  Speaker 2: name for generations. Orlando baking leadership added, our message is simple.
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  Speaker 2: If you're looking to continue your career in the baking industry,
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  Speaker 2: Orlando baking is ready to welcome talent individuals who want
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  Speaker 2: to be part of a company committed to quality teamwork
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  Speaker 2: and long-term success. Orlando is hiring experienced workers in production, maintenance, sanitation,
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  Speaker 2: warehouse operations, and leadership at its Cleveland area facilities. Orlando
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  Speaker 2: is a union bakery as is Schwebel's. So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: So this Orlando baking up in Cleveland says they have
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  Speaker 2: jobs for people if they would like to apply. So
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  Speaker 2: there you go. So I guess that's good news for
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  Speaker 2: the workers, right? So can you imagine that you're reading
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  Speaker 2: this stuff so the workers find out from Schwebel, so
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  Speaker 2: workers find out from the news media like the rest
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  Speaker 2: of us did. So can you imagine, I mean, how
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  Speaker 2: shocking it is, you know, how shocking it is for
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  Speaker 2: Those of us that just buy the product, it's a
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  Speaker 2: part of this community. It's been a part of this
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  Speaker 2: community for a long time. And when this news came
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  Speaker 2: out at the end of last week, it was just,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't it kind of a shock to everybody? It was
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  Speaker 2: to me. Wasn't it a shock to everybody about Schwebel's closing, basically? Saying, okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: we can't afford to stay in business. We can't find
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  Speaker 2: a buyer. We're done. After 120 years. So as shocking
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  Speaker 2: as that is to you as a customer, imagine how
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  Speaker 2: shocking that had to be for the employees down there.
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  Speaker 2: It had to be really shocking to them when they
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  Speaker 2: heard about it basically the same way the rest of
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  Speaker 2: us heard about it, which is very troubling. One other thing, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I get to phone calls just momentarily. These are things
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  Speaker 2: I've been sitting on and I wanted to bring to
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  Speaker 2: your attention. This is one other thing. And this has
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  Speaker 2: to do with Trumbull County. Commissioner Tony Bernard and Rick
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  Speaker 2: Hernandez made a request to several superintendents attending Wednesday's regular
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  Speaker 2: county commissioner's meeting to support the county's efforts to by
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  Speaker 2: perhaps assisting in the drafting of a letter. This is
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  Speaker 2: a part of an article. Bernard added that he has
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  Speaker 2: broached the idea to a few township and villages leaders
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  Speaker 2: over the several days. And I'm just reading a part
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  Speaker 2: of the article out of the paper. We will be
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  Speaker 2: asking our state reps to freeze our current property evaluations. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so they're going to try to ask them for this.
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  Speaker 2: Bernard added the county needs to let the state know
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  Speaker 2: that they are not going to continuously allow them to
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  Speaker 2: increase property taxes on people that cannot afford it. Now
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  Speaker 2: listen to this, gang. This is in Trumbull County. This
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  Speaker 2: will be in addition to the commissioner's plan to pass
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  Speaker 2: a resolution next week, which would be this week, that
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  Speaker 2: would increase the deduction at residence in owner-occupied households from 2.5%
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  Speaker 2: to 5%. So in Trumbull County, unlike Mahoning County, in
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  Speaker 2: Trumbull County, they are going to give the... If you...
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  Speaker 2: are owner-occupied home. In other words, you don't rent it.
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  Speaker 2: It's owner-occupied home. That your owner occupancy, which is a 2.5% reduction,
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  Speaker 2: will go to 5%. So once again, this will be
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  Speaker 2: in addition to the commissioner's plan to pass a resolution
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  Speaker 2: this week. That would increase the deduction that residents and
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  Speaker 2: owner-occupied households in Trumbull County from 2.5% to 5%. That
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  Speaker 2: would help the homeowners on their property taxes starting in 2027.
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  Speaker 2: The commissioners are expected to offer additional tax relief next
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  Speaker 2: year by voting next week to pass a resolution that
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  Speaker 2: will increase property tax deductions. by 2.5% on owner-occupied homes.
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  Speaker 2: The commissioners are expected to offer additional tax relief next
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  Speaker 2: year by voting next week to pass a resolution that
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  Speaker 2: will increase property tax deductions by 2.5% on owner-occupied homes.
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  Speaker 2: The schools may not like this, and the trustees may
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  Speaker 2: not like this, but this is a small chunk of
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  Speaker 2: what the homestead would have been. Bernard said the board
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  Speaker 2: was waiting to make a decision until they saw if
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  Speaker 2: the group that was seeking to get a property tax
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  Speaker 2: referendum on a November ballot was successful, it did not
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  Speaker 2: collect enough signatures. So any effort to get a statewide
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  Speaker 2: vote now will wait until 2027. If the property tax
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  Speaker 2: goes away, then what? He questions. We will help you
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  Speaker 2: go to the states and say you need to give
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  Speaker 2: more money to the schools, to the townships, to the counties.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody has some money except us, he said. We need
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  Speaker 2: to get them to give it back to us. Rick
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  Speaker 2: Hernandez noted that they are constantly bombarded with questions from
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  Speaker 2: Trumbull residents about their increasing property tax bills. Gee, there's
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  Speaker 2: a surprise, isn't it? So it looks like they're going
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  Speaker 2: to do some movement. I ask you to consider... what
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  Speaker 2: the 2.5% means to each school district. Of course, the
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  Speaker 2: schools are going to bellyache about it because they really
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  Speaker 2: don't care about what it's doing to the homeowners. So
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  Speaker 2: it appears to me, and correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 2: that Trumbull County is going to act on as commissioners
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  Speaker 2: by raising the owner occupancy from 2.5% to 5%.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is that what you hear in Trouble County?
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  Speaker 2: That the commissioners, unlike Mahoning County, are finally saying, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we have the ability to give relief to our taxpayers,
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  Speaker 2: so we're going to act on it. And that would
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  Speaker 2: kick in in 2027. Anybody know anything more about that?
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  Speaker 2: Where is Rick Hernandez and where's Tony Bernard and these people?
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  Speaker 2: Call the program. What are you going to do? Let your...
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  Speaker 2: You say this was last week's paper, so that would
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  Speaker 2: be happening this week. So let's see what happens. You're
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  Speaker 2: on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Ronald.
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  Speaker 2: It's Ted the Conservative.
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  Speaker 4: What a great transition.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Taxes, real estate taxes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: We have one candidate in Mahoning County who has told
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  Speaker 4: us she will reduce your taxes. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow night at one of your, no, tomorrow, what's today?
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  Speaker 6: Tuesday, Thursday night.
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  Speaker 4: Or Thursday evening. At one of Ron Verb's favorite restaurants,
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  Speaker 4: The Fireplace, from 530 to 730, you can go meet
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  Speaker 4: Christine Oliver. She's having a gathering there. So I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: she would love to see you and all of your
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  Speaker 4: listeners show up. And they can question her and they
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  Speaker 4: can ask her about what she's going to do. She
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  Speaker 4: made it clear on the campaign that she plans to
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  Speaker 4: reduce taxes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she said she's on the campaign. She said she
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  Speaker 2: supports both of them and says, And she's the.
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  Speaker 4: Only one running. You know, let's be honest. Her Democrat
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  Speaker 4: opponent is just another globalist, tax-hungry, tax-spending Democrat. And that
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  Speaker 4: commissioner's race could be the most critical race you and
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  Speaker 4: I vote on, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: I would agree. I would agree.
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  Speaker 4: So I would encourage your listeners up there. They want
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  Speaker 4: to get out tomorrow and enjoy some of this nice weather,
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  Speaker 4: stop by the fireplace.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you said Thursday.
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  Speaker 6: Thursday, Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very forgetful.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's today's Tuesday, man. Do you know what
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  Speaker 2: year it is? How many fingers am I holding up?
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  Speaker 4: Don't ask me who the president is. I know today's Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: I just realized that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, hey.
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  Speaker 4: Thursday from 5.30 to 7.30, stop at the fireplace and
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  Speaker 4: meet the one candidate who will lower your real estate tax.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she will certainly champion it, but... I just find
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  Speaker 2: it refreshing. I mean, Denny Malloy lost his election, and
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  Speaker 2: I think he would have probably done better if he
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  Speaker 2: had moved on this before Election Day. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: called the program and said he was interested in doing it,
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  Speaker 2: but nothing materialized. Now you have..
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  Speaker 4: My personal opinion, this is just Ted the Conservative, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't think very highly of Denny Malloy. Irregardless of what
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  Speaker 4: you thought of Nicky Frenchcoe, And her behavior, the way
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  Speaker 4: he treated her as a woman, I thought was disrespectful,
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  Speaker 4: and he lost a lot of my support. You can
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  Speaker 4: disagree with someone, but you don't need to get in
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  Speaker 4: the mud and make yourself look worse than that person.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that's what he did, but that's not why
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  Speaker 4: I called you.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, something else you mentioned, Schwebel.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So I know a Schwebel who was in the business
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  Speaker 4: for many, many years, decades. He was actually forced out
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  Speaker 4: by some of the family a certain time ago.
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  Speaker 3: And..
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  Speaker 4: They basically did to the bakery what was done to
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  Speaker 4: our steel mills. They sucked it dry. They didn't reinvest
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  Speaker 4: in the bakery. Now they're complaining about pensions and union
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  Speaker 4: agreements and bad equipment. Well, there's... The only way a
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  Speaker 4: 120-year-old business could fail that's been successful for 119 years
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  Speaker 4: is just poor management, poor leadership. And I think that's
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  Speaker 4: what happened there. I mean, I've been at the grocery
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  Speaker 4: store and I look at the shelves and I'm... paused,
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  Speaker 4: and I think, how could that happen? Every doggone brand
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  Speaker 4: of bread is a Schwebel's. And if it's not branded Schwebel's,
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  Speaker 4: it's in a Giant Eagle bag that says Giant Eagle
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  Speaker 4: made it Schwebel's. It's really sad.
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  Speaker 2: Very fast. No, but you sit back and you say
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  Speaker 2: it's 100. I mean, I understand technology changes. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in the business I'm in, the terrestrial media,
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  Speaker 2: it's changed dramatically. But that has to do with technology.
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  Speaker 2: Bread is a much different industry. We still need bread.
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  Speaker 2: We still eat peanut butter jelly and we need bread.
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  Speaker 4: People will still be making bread. Until the day you
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  Speaker 4: and I die.
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  Speaker 2: And they'll be making it after that. But it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: They had a system in place for 120 years that
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  Speaker 4: was successful. What did they do wrong?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like you. When I went to Meijer, I looked
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  Speaker 2: at the shelf and I was looking at my honey
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  Speaker 2: wheat bread that I buy from Schwebel. And I was
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  Speaker 2: looking at all the brands there. And I thought, this
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  Speaker 2: is the weird part. I thought, this is really sad.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, stand by. Stand by. Ted the Conservative. Other callers,
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  Speaker 2: hang on. We've got a Tuesday afternoon underway. We've got
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  Speaker 2: plenty of time to spend together. Glad you tuned in.
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  Speaker 2: Ron Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning.
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  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So, the whole Schwebel thing is set.
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  Speaker 4: You and I haven't spoken in a minute, but I've
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  Speaker 4: got to say something else before. There's so much I
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  Speaker 4: want to share with you because we haven't talked in
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  Speaker 4: a while. I want to compliment you. You did a
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  Speaker 4: very short segment with the women last, I think it
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  Speaker 4: was last week or the week before, who you said
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  Speaker 4: was instrumental in bringing you to Mahoney, to WKBN, the
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  Speaker 4: Mahoney Valley.
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  Speaker 2: 41 years ago, yes.
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  Speaker 4: And I want to compliment you on the things that
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  Speaker 4: you said to her. And some of the things you said,
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  Speaker 4: if listeners didn't hear, I would tell them, go back
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  Speaker 4: and listen, because you gave some great life advice. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we never know where the next step we take will
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  Speaker 4: lead us, or the people who we meet will lead us,
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  Speaker 4: and how they will affect our lives. And you said
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  Speaker 4: that so beautifully. I don't know, your wife must have
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  Speaker 4: wrote that for you or something.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: No, she didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Where did those words come from?
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  Speaker 2: They came, really, seriously, they came directly out of my heart, because..
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  Speaker 4: I believe it. I was joking, but I could tell
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  Speaker 4: those were heartfelt words. To be honest..
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's the reason I... came to Youngstown and
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  Speaker 2: why I ended up here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And, I mean, I've learned the hard way that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you have a soft side. I think you first exposed
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  Speaker 4: that when you told us all you watch General Hospital,
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  Speaker 4: but I won't go down that road.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I do occasionally watch that, but, I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: was like– If you go back, I mean, because it was,
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  Speaker 2: let me put it this way.
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  Speaker 4: And as a listener, I want you to know, that's
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  Speaker 4: what I heard. I heard wrong words speaking from the heart.
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  Speaker 2: And it was, here's the strange thing is, few things
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  Speaker 2: make me, how do you say it? Few things make
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  Speaker 2: me get nervous or butterflies. How's that sound?
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 4: Other than your wife?
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  Speaker 2: But she did, you know what I mean? Because it
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  Speaker 2: was my opportunity to say to her everything that she
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  Speaker 2: had done for me to get me to come to Youngstown.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, she went on to other entities, you know,
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  Speaker 2: other broadcast entities and that kind of stuff. But if
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't for her, I would have never ended up here.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, 41 years later, which is...
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  Speaker 2: Longer than I ever thought it would be.
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  Speaker 4: As a longtime listener, I heard those words coming from
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  Speaker 4: your heart. And I was really impressed, to be honest.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know you... had that emotional, sensitive side in you,
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  Speaker 4: to be honest. I just thought you were this rough,
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  Speaker 4: tough talk show host.
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  Speaker 2: I am that rough, tough talk show host, but, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she made me nervous, you know, sitting in that chair
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  Speaker 2: right over there. You know what I mean? So, so
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  Speaker 2: it was, but you better make it, you better take time.
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  Speaker 4: And they were heart, you spoke from your heart as
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  Speaker 4: a listener.
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  Speaker 8: That's what I heard.
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  Speaker 2: You better take time in your life. particularly as you
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  Speaker 2: get older, as I am now 68 years old. And
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  Speaker 2: I think about it quite often, if I get honest,
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  Speaker 2: because my father didn't live past 63, unfortunately. So you
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  Speaker 2: become cognizant of your DNA as far as your life.
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  Speaker 2: And so luckily, my mother lived into her mid-80s. So
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  Speaker 2: you hope maybe you get more of that DNA. Stand by,
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  Speaker 2: Ted the Conservative. Stand by. I want to pick up,
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  Speaker 2: talk more about that and plenty more that I want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to Ted about. Call us on the line.
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  Speaker 2: Stand by. Good afternoon. Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning.
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  Speaker 2: News Radio 570 WKVN. By Estella's Pharma.
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  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKVN. All right, back to it.
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  Speaker 2: News Radio 570 WKVN. I was talking with Ted the Conservative.
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  Speaker 2: And the bottom line is, like I said to everybody,
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  Speaker 2: is as you get older— You should remember the people
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: that made huge differences in your life and guided you
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: in your life to how it ended up. It always
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: takes somebody that– remember the person that gave you your
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: first job, who took a chance on you. Remember the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: people that mentored you. Remember the people that taught you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: a work ethic and just– Just remember those people. And
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: while you're still, and they're still alive, thank them. I mean,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I was blessed. I thanked Gabriel several times as he
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: got older. for, you know, he's a program director. He
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: hired me at the time, and I appreciate what he
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: did for me and all the folks over the years.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And now look at me. I'm 102 years old, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I'm absolutely exhausted.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Since we're being sentimental, let me tell you this, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: then we'll get on to business. And I mean this
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: in all seriousness. You know, growing up as a young,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: talk radio has been in my life since I can remember.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I had the privilege as a young kid in high school, college,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: and even after college, working with my dad every day
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: for quite some time. And part of that daily routine
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: was talk radio. That was the only thing that was on.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: And I grew up listening to Dan Ryan in the morning.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: And while I enjoyed it, I didn't appreciate it. Because
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't know where he was coming from. You follow me?
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: To me, it was just entertainment talk radio. But I
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: will say this, because now I look back and I
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: realize how great Dan Ryan was. And I would say
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: that Ron Verb is the Dan Ryan of my lifetime.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: You've taught me medicine. You've taught all of your listeners.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: You've educated us. You've led us into your life. And
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: sometimes I feel like I know you. On a personal basis,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: even though I don't.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Well, you do to a certain extent. You form a
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: strange relationship as a result of this, and that's a
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: good thing. It's not a bad thing. But I always
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: said to myself, I said, well, when I turn 62,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to retire. And 63, I'm going to retire.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: And 64, I'm going to retire. 65, I'm going to retire. 66,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to retire. 67, I'm going to retire. Now
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I'm 68, and I can assure you this will not
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: go on forever. I can assure you of that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: But it's a part of your life. It's who you are.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: And when you walk away from that, you're walking away
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: from a part of your life.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's other things in life. I mean, be
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: thankful if you're healthy and you're still alive. And there's
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: other joys and adventures to enjoy. But anyway, with that
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: being said.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: With that being said, so let me get to some
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: of the reasons I called.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Yesterday, I'm having a nice walk with my dog. Complete serenity,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: peace and quiet. Emanuel calls. And I say, wow. You know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I'm starting to enjoy Emanuel again. For a while, he
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: went off the rails.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: But then yesterday, he proceeded to tell the thousands of
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: listeners to the Vaughn Group show that he went to
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: the Toy Story.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I just took him down a notch. You know, it's
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: one thing to watch General Hospital with your wife.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: It's another thing to go to a cartoon and a movie.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: And then he proceeds to.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Talk about Epstein.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And, you know, I'm just going to say this. And
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: people may get mad at me. They may not. But
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I truly, as you, I have the same beliefs as
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: you when it comes to Epstein. I also believe Trump
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: held back on the release of documents to not bother
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: his friends. to cause trouble for his friends. I truly
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: believe that. And I also believe we will never know
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the truth of Epstein.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: Ever.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And the victims will never get justice.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: But what really eats at me, and I mean no
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: disrespect to anyone, but it's when people call your program
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: and scream about Epstein, but for the last five years
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: they've not said a word about it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: And that goes for every Democrat who utters the word Epstein.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Because guess what? They didn't care about it until they
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: thought it could hurt Trump. They don't care about the victims.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: They don't care about anyone except trying to gain political points.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: But I would say to the Democrats, next time you
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: want to utter the word Epstein, just go pull your
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: little toy story dolls out, play with those and just
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: move on. You didn't care before, and you don't care.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: You won't care. Let's say Gavin Newsom's president in three years.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Guess what? You'll never hear a word about Epstein, ever.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: And I think you would agree with me on that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I'll give you an eye. I kept it 100% on it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And what troubles me about the whole Epstein thing is that,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: once again, the victims will never get justice. I mean,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: think of how evil it is, because this was an
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: intelligence operation. Many people think with Mossad. Some people say
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Mossad in the United States. But it was an intelligence
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: operation that involved having adult men having sex with minor girls. Children, basically.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So the intelligence community was doing this. And then you
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: have these despicable people. I mean, I can't even imagine
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: some guy that's 50 years old or whatever, Prince Andrew
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: or somebody like that, wanting to have sex with some
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: 14 or 15-year-old girl. Is that... Bizarre to me.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: That's a mental illness.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And sickening to me. And then you start hearing it
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: was well known what was happening on Epstein Island and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: why they called it the Lolita Express and all this
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And yet it went on. for years
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and years and years. And all I'm saying is where
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: is the justice for those victims? You'll never see it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: It's a two-tier justice system. And secondly, where's all of
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the videos? Because somebody has this material and can still
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: use it to have power over these people, whether they're
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: politicians or the wealthy and influential people. Somebody has that material.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Because that was what it was set up for in
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the intelligence community, to get this material on these people
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: to be able to manipulate them. So who has it now?
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: I believe Pam Bondi. I believe Bongino. I believe they
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: had that information. They saw that information. They wanted to
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: release that information. And I believe Trump stopped it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but who has it? Who has possession of it?
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Probably in Donald Trump's bathroom in Mar-a-Lago.
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I'm honest.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: I'm being honest.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, who has the physical possession of this stuff?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: And I would even question, was it there when Trump
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: got there? Was it there when Biden got there? Did
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: somebody within the FBI or some organization actually take this
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: stuff and somebody else, if it's an intelligence community operation,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Did the intelligence community get their stuff, or did they
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: ever apprehend it in the first place? Because there's some
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: question whether or not the government ever took possession of
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: it in the first place. I just want to know
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: who has it now that's still able to use it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Because you heard what Melinda Gates said about Bill Gates,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden Bill Gates says, oh,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I cheat on my wife with Russian prostitutes. And he
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: tried to slip her some drug in case he gave
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: her VD and this kind of stuff. I mean, it's just–
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: it's so bizarre when you hear about Bill Gates and
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: what he tried to do. But I honestly sit back
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and say to myself, this Bill Gates that wants to
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: make the artificial meat and doesn't think people should eat meat,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I don't put it past any of these people to–
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to actually chemically engineer that tick that if it bites you,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: you're allergic to meat. Never existed until now, until they
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: started talking about we've got to get rid of eating
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: meat and this kind of stuff. All of a sudden,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: we've got a tick. If it bites you, you can't
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: eat meat. What a coincidence.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: And as crazy as it might sound to some, maybe
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: they haven't lived long enough to realize that anything is possible.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: If you live long enough, you will see enough and
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: realize that anything is possible.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I think it's real possible. Don't you give a huge aye-aye,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Captain Ted the Conservative, to Telsey Gabbard and leaving as
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: your DNI director, who put the information out there about Fauci.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember this, but I had
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: to laugh because one of your callers at one time,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I'm honest, I'm transparent, I'll tell you everything you want
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: to know about me, just ask. And I remember at
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: one time I made this comment, And then someone questioned
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: how I can be a conservative if I did this.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: But when Tulsi Gabbard was running for president, I sent
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: her 50 bucks when she was running against Hillary Clinton.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Because I thought to myself at the time of looking
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: at all the candidates on that side of the aisle
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: and the way things were trending until Donald Trump made
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: his impact, I thought, we've got to stop Hillary Clinton.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And I really believed Hillary Clinton was going to be
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: the next president. And I thought, man, who better... Who
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: better to stop her than this woman? I mean, that's
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: how impressed I was. She's the only, only politician I've
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: ever given money to. How about that?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget one.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Of your callers questioned my conservatism when.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I said that. I remember that. I do remember that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about somebody on her final day
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: at DNI director. When she left, she released all this information,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: which finally showed us The cover-up that took place, Fauci's
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: involvement that took place. And once again, what did she
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: put out there? As I've said to you, all of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the bio labs in the Ukraine that we talked about
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: over the years. So she put out the information on
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: all of these bio labs that were out there, the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: ones that were in China, the ones that were in
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the Ukraine. She put out there how Fauci was covering
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: all this stuff up and how they thought that, gee,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: what is it, hydrochloroquine and ivermectin actually worked. And this government,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: this government prevented people from getting that and chose to
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: let them die. A guy like, this is how evil
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I think Fauci is. In other words, they said to doctors,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: you're not allowed to prescribe that. They said to pharmacies,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you're not allowed to fulfill that. Even though that it
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: was fixing the COVID situation for people. Sure. Instead, they
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: wanted them to die. I mean, it was there because..
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: What they did is they put their self-interest... I read
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: some numbers, and we're talking billions.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Pharmaceutical industry, Fauci and his workers and his people, the
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Democrat politicians, the people that all told you this was
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: crazy and nonsense were the ones that benefited. They made
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: hundreds of millions. Yep. upwards of billions of dollars on
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: this vaccine. So every time a Democrat screams Epstein, you
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: should ask him, well, did you get the COVID vaccine?
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: And ask them about Fauci, now that the truth is out.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's my problem with it. You don't see— it
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: should be the story of the year on mainstream media.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yet it's as though it doesn't exist. The courage it
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: took that woman to release all that information, put it
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: out there for all of us to see what the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: governments did to us as Americans, what Fauci did to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: us as Americans. what the vaccine, the issues with the vaccine,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: how people had died could have been cured and how
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: to expose all of this. And to totally be ignored
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: by the mainstream media says everything you need to know.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It should be the lead story for weeks.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: And she didn't do it for any self-glorified reason. She's
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: got a husband who's terminally ill with cancer.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: But she put, you know, we talk about America first,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: country first. She put America first.
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: She put the country first.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: She didn't have to do that.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: She didn't have to release this information. But now it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: out there. So, you know, it's going to be, like
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: you said, mainstream media, they've not said a word about it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Because it goes against everything that they support. They're probably
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: in cahoots with all these people, if you ask me.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Think how evil it is. People died alone in nursing
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: homes and hospitals without their loved ones there as they
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: approached the time to meet their maker. Think how evil
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that is, that that took place, and that many of
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: those people didn't need to die because we could have
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: done it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I had a lifetime friend that I grew up with,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: probably one of the nicest people in the world. That's
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: the only way I can describe a kid. Nicest guy
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: in the world. He's a nurse, just an amazing person.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: And he died alone on a ventilator in the hospital
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: because of those people, if you ask me. And I
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: don't know that there's many of us that don't know
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: of someone who died or became deathly ill or who
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: suffers today. And to think that our government was behind
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: it and then lied about it? It's just amazing. It's
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: just unbelievable.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: And the mainstream media ignores this major story. That's unbelievable
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. And once again, just like Epstein, we don't see
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: anybody being held accountable.
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: No.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: And just like COVID.
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: No, never.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: We'll never see it, Ron.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: All the lies. All the lies.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: You know the Democrats won't ever talk about it because
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: it was all their people that had their hands out.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: They will never say a word about it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I fought the Republicans as well.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I've got to give Rand Paul credit.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: At times I thought, okay, I thought he was just
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: a little bit off the defense. But you know what?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: He was right from day one. And he's the only
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: guy that was out there really. I would say he
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: was the voice of anti-fascism.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who's that one senator, though, that was leading the charge, too?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I can't. The gray-haired guy, I can't recall his name
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: off the top of my head. He's... He was leading
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: a charge there, too. It'll come to me or somebody
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: will bring it to my attention.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I think I see a face, too, but I can't recall.
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I don't want to take up any more of your time.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: We've taken a lot.
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: Thank you.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: But I do want to talk. Maybe next time I
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: call or next week I'll give you a call. Rich,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: the pharmacist.
• 33:50
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: You've got to sit him down and talk to him
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: about the globalist Amy Acton and what she would do
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: to the visa program compared to what the big Rama
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Swami would do to the visa program.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Something for the future. All right.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: You got something for the future.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: All right, buddy. You have a good one.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. You're on the air.
• 34:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 15: Well, you were talking about, uh, Fauci. I called him
• 34:13
  Speaker 15: a few times. I'm not quite sure. I've actually mentioned
• 34:15
  Speaker 15: this guy. There's a guy named Dell D.
• 34:17
  Speaker 16: L big tree. And, uh, he has held several episodes
• 34:22
  Speaker 16: on what Fauci did. Uh, and he's done this before.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: He did it in Africa with AIDS.
• 34:29
  Speaker 16: Dell's actually on his podcast or whatever, but he had said,
• 34:33
  Speaker 16: if you look at the number of deaths that are
• 34:36
  Speaker 16: under Fauci, he might be the number one worst mass
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: murderer in history. I want to say.
• 34:43
  Speaker 15: He linked him to almost.
• 34:44
  Speaker 16: 50 million deaths in the AIDS epidemic in Africa when
• 34:49
  Speaker 16: AIDS first came out. It's really amazing how much... that
• 34:55
  Speaker 16: guy has got away with. And there was actually treatments
• 34:58
  Speaker 16: that they, he proved that even back then that there
• 35:01
  Speaker 16: was treatments with AIDS that would work, and Fauci.
• 35:04
  Speaker 15: Did the exact same thing, was, you know, wouldn't let
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: doctors prescribe them or try them.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Stand by for me. Stand by. I remember what he's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: talking about. I want to talk more with that caller,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and we'll come back with more right after this.
• 35:16
  Speaker 17: Today.
• 35:17
  Speaker 18: Youngstown's News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN. Newt Gingrich
• 35:23
  Speaker 18: sounds old there, doesn't he?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Because he is. Hello there. So you are 100% correct
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: if people aren't familiar with Fauci and the AIDS epidemic
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: in Africa. You are 100% correct on what you said.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And people should be aware of that, but they're not.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I'm proud that you are.
• 35:39
  Speaker 16: I appreciate it. He's actually a pretty interesting character, that
• 35:45
  Speaker 16: Dale Bigtree. He talks about a lot of stuff. He
• 35:48
  Speaker 16: goes down the whole how hospitals basically put a price
• 35:52
  Speaker 16: tag on on every COVID patient. I want to say,
• 35:56
  Speaker 16: if I remember correctly, it was $ 40, 000 a patient that
• 35:59
  Speaker 16: died of COVID. And then it was like another 25,000
• 36:01
  Speaker 16: if they died in a ventilator, which is kind of
• 36:05
  Speaker 16: scary that you have a hospitals, you know, basically putting
• 36:10
  Speaker 16: a price tag on everybody's life, you know, and.
• 36:14
  Speaker 15: For, for profit.
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: So you are, you, you turned your hospital to the
• 36:17
  Speaker 16: places where most people think that I'm going in there
• 36:20
  Speaker 16: to get treatment, that, uh, You know, you basically turned.
• 36:24
  Speaker 15: Them into legalized death camps.
• 36:27
  Speaker 16: To a point, you know.
• 36:28
  Speaker 15: I actually know.
• 36:30
  Speaker 16: A person who died in a ventilator. She was my age.
• 36:35
  Speaker 16: You know, they convinced her to go on a ventilator,
• 36:38
  Speaker 16: and she coded like a week later.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: It was a death sentence to a large extent when
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff happens. But do you think he
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: will ever see, that we will ever see justice? Let
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: me do my headlines. You got a few more minutes?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I'll hook up with you. I'll hook up with that
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: guy right after the break. Intelligent caller talking about things
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you should know back in a minute.
• 37:05
  Speaker 17: From ABC News, I'm Wayne Cabot. Just in, the Senate
• 37:08
  Speaker 17: for the first time approving a war powers resolution to
• 37:12
  Speaker 17: block the U.S. war against Iran.
• 37:14
  Speaker 19: On this motion, the yeas are 50, the nays are 48.
• 37:17
  Speaker 19: The concurrent motion is agreed to.
• 37:20
  Speaker 17: It is symbolic, President Trump sure to veto, but enough
• 37:23
  Speaker 17: Republicans did join Democrats. The timing for this made possible
• 37:27
  Speaker 17: by the missed vote of Mitch McConnell, who's in the hospital.
• 37:30
  Speaker 17: President Trump about the Iran statement denying his claim that
• 37:34
  Speaker 17: they've agreed to allow full inspections of nuclear sites.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: They're wrong.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: They're wrong. They know they're wrong.
• 37:42
  Speaker 17: Another $ 80 billion to fund the war is very cheap,
• 37:46
  Speaker 17: says President Trump. to ensure that Iran doesn't get a
• 37:49
  Speaker 17: nuclear weapon.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: We know what they agreed to.
• 37:51
  Speaker 17: I don't know why they have to say the things
• 37:52
  Speaker 17: they say. Secretary of State Marco.
• 37:54
  Speaker 20: Rubio The Pentagon is asking Congress for $ 80 billion to
• 37:58
  Speaker 20: cover the cost of the war with Iran and other
• 38:00
  Speaker 20: budget shortfalls. Lawmakers have been pressing the Trump administration to
• 38:04
  Speaker 20: provide a more comprehensive price tag for this conflict. The
• 38:07
  Speaker 20: last update from the administration had the cost of the
• 38:10
  Speaker 20: war at $ 29 billion.
• 38:12
  Speaker 17: ABC's Mary Bruce at the White House. The Iranian National
• 38:16
  Speaker 17: World Cup team is getting some relief after complaining about
• 38:19
  Speaker 17: unfair restrictions on them by U.S. Homeland Security for its
• 38:23
  Speaker 17: matches here. They'll now be allowed to arrive two days
• 38:26
  Speaker 17: ahead of playing. During the first week of FIFA World
• 38:29
  Speaker 17: Cup activities in Florida, first responders are dealing with dozens
• 38:32
  Speaker 17: of heat-related incidents, At Hard Rock Stadium, dozens have died
• 38:36
  Speaker 17: in Europe from the kind of intense heat that Americans
• 38:39
  Speaker 17: are more accustomed to. Most of Europe.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Doesn't really do air conditioning.
• 38:43
  Speaker 15: We know at least 40 people have died since Thursday alone.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Among them, sadly, two young children.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Who were left in the back of a hot car.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: But the majority have died drowning, swimming in unsupervised water.
• 38:55
  Speaker 17: James Longman reporting from London. Today, France recorded its hottest
• 38:59
  Speaker 17: ever average temperature. You're listening to ABC News.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: All right, back to it from NewsRadio 570. WKBN and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Ron Verb. What you're talking about, I wish more people
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: were aware of.
• 39:14
  Speaker 16: Well, the information is not that hard to find. I mean,
• 39:17
  Speaker 16: it's out there. I don't know. I've called in a
• 39:21
  Speaker 16: few times. We've had multiple discussions over the years. You know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 16: my first couple of times I called in, it was
• 39:27
  Speaker 16: during COVID about, you know, how my wife and I
• 39:30
  Speaker 16: went low carb. And then we went down the whole
• 39:32
  Speaker 16: vaccine rabbit hole. And then, you know, we've listened to
• 39:35
  Speaker 16: different people like Dale Bigtree. There's multiple people out there.
• 39:38
  Speaker 16: Just nobody knows where to find them until they hear
• 39:40
  Speaker 16: their name because they're put out there, you know, like
• 39:44
  Speaker 16: other resources are. You have to really search for things. Now,
• 39:48
  Speaker 16: for instance, going back to the vaccine, just going back
• 39:50
  Speaker 16: to any vaccine, my wife actually lost her mother to dementia.
• 39:58
  Speaker 16: And once we started kind of looking into that, you
• 40:00
  Speaker 16: find out that one of the things that a lot
• 40:05
  Speaker 16: of people test for with dementia is aluminum at the
• 40:07
  Speaker 16: base of their brain. And lo and behold, what do
• 40:10
  Speaker 16: they put in vaccines? They put like an aluminum oxide
• 40:13
  Speaker 16: or something like that in there. And, you know, high
• 40:16
  Speaker 16: levels of aluminum in your brain in dementia patients.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: So, you know, once.
• 40:23
  Speaker 16: You start going, you know, I hate to, I naturally
• 40:25
  Speaker 16: think I'm a conspiracy theorist because every time I say
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: something is a conspiracy, if you wait around long enough,
• 40:30
  Speaker 16: it seems like there's enough proof to say, well, that's
• 40:32
  Speaker 16: no longer a conspiracy. It's true, you know.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do you think that Fauci will ever
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: be held accountable for any of this stuff?
• 40:44
  Speaker 16: Well, how do I say this? My last call, we
• 40:48
  Speaker 16: were talking about taxes, and I said, at what point
• 40:51
  Speaker 16: does the average person take it into their own hands?
• 40:56
  Speaker 16: And I say with this instance, too, is that when
• 41:00
  Speaker 16: does the common working man finally have enough and says,
• 41:05
  Speaker 16: you know what, what if a guy that goes to
• 41:08
  Speaker 16: work every day like I do, you know, 12-year-old son
• 41:13
  Speaker 16: or 12-year-old daughter took the COVID vaccine because the school
• 41:16
  Speaker 16: pressured them and then they had a stroke and died. Like,
• 41:19
  Speaker 16: when does that guy go, look, you stripped it away
• 41:22
  Speaker 16: from me, I'm stripping it away from you? And that's,
• 41:26
  Speaker 16: I just think there's going to be a fracture up.
• 41:31
  Speaker 16: potentially a fracture where you're, I think you are going
• 41:35
  Speaker 16: to see people finally have enough to realize that our
• 41:40
  Speaker 16: judicial system and our, the majority of our government has
• 41:44
  Speaker 16: absolutely failed you and you're paying them to fail you.
• 41:49
  Speaker 16: They're extorting money off of you to fail you. And
• 41:53
  Speaker 16: at what point does a person go, I've just had enough.
• 41:57
  Speaker 16: I'm going to, I'm just going to do so. I'm like,
• 41:59
  Speaker 16: you know, I'm, Matter of fact, there's a movie out
• 42:02
  Speaker 16: right now called Vigilante. I don't know if it's actually
• 42:05
  Speaker 16: made to the screen yet, but Jack Persovic actually put
• 42:09
  Speaker 16: a snippet on there, and it is about that. This guy,
• 42:12
  Speaker 16: I want to say he was a judge. He kidnapped
• 42:14
  Speaker 16: a judge and injected him with heroin and was telling him,
• 42:18
  Speaker 16: you let three boys go free after they gang-raped this
• 42:24
  Speaker 16: girl and killed her, and you let them go free
• 42:26
  Speaker 16: after however many months. He was basically telling him, liberal-looking viewpoint,
• 42:36
  Speaker 16: and he had him in a car. I'm sure he
• 42:38
  Speaker 16: was going to kill him.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: You remember that the auto pen pardoned Fauci.
• 42:47
  Speaker 14: Yes, I do.
• 42:48
  Speaker 16: I'll ask you this. Is anything always an absolute nature?
• 42:56
  Speaker 16: What I mean by that is there's nothing... If they
• 42:58
  Speaker 16: could make it If they can put it on paper,
• 43:02
  Speaker 16: they can always unpin it. You know, I mean, I
• 43:05
  Speaker 16: don't know. You see politicians say this. You see them
• 43:08
  Speaker 16: say that. All this, you know, we can't go back
• 43:10
  Speaker 16: on it. And, you know, you give it enough time,
• 43:11
  Speaker 16: give it enough money at it, it goes back.
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: It can go back.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: All right, so let me pick your brain in just
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: a bit. First of all, folks, pay attention to this guy.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Do you not agree that Chelsea Gabbard is truly a
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: great American by releasing the information she did as she
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: left the DNI? Yes or no?
• 43:29
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I believe so. I wish she was still there
• 43:31
  Speaker 16: to release more, personally.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, it is to me, I am deeply
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: saddened that she's no longer in that position. I mean,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sad that her husband has the health problems that
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: he has.
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, correct.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 43:43
  Speaker 16: I understand the circumstances.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It shows us all how precious life can be, and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: don't take it for granted as far as your health
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: and joy each day. But, I mean, it's sad that
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: her husband has... The ailment that he has and she's
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: making the right decision, obviously, to be by his side.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: But I wish she could have done both, both run
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: that organization, because I don't think you'd find a better
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: person in charge of that organization. And I say that because, remember,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: she spoke out against Kamala Harris on Fox News when
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: she was when the campaign was going on. And the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: evilness of the Biden administration and Kamala Harris put her
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: on the terror watch list, if you will. Remember that?
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I do.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: So whenever she would go to the airport, her and
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: her husband would be hassled every time she would go
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: to the airport because they didn't like her political opinion
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: as far as Kamala Harris was concerned. Think of how
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: evil that is. And think of the great accomplishment that
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: happened with her being in charge of that organization that–
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: was part, I guess, of putting her on that terror list.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: But for her to go through this information and to
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: release it to say, this is a giant cover-up, and
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the mainstream media to ignore it, to ignore that, gee,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: there was, that ivermectin was something that could deal with
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: this problem, a hypochloroquine. that these things did work, that
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: we were punishing doctors for curing people because we wanted
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: to make sure this vaccine got out there and that
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: there were problems as far as this vaccine. But most
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: importantly of all, how this COVID started happened. It wasn't
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: some stray bat. It was at that lab in Wuhan,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: and how Fauci tried to cover that up, and he
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: was funding it, and how she pointed out, as we
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: were lied to for years by Victoria Nuland, about the
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: biolabs in the Ukraine. Why would you put a biolab
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: in China, communist China, or a biolabs in the corrupt Ukraine?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: where you're doing gain-of-function experiments that can literally wipe out mankind. Literally,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: with something that escapes from there. Why would you do
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: such a thing? And so they lied to the American
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: citizens that these biolabs even existed in the Ukraine. They
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: only admitted to them when Russia was invading the Ukraine
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: and heading for these biolabs. Because Putin said before the
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: war started, you need to shut down these biolabs that
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the Russians knew was in the Ukraine. We denied they
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: were there. They were heading for them. Because Putin said
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: at that time, I want to put the scientists, those people,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: in the world courts. All of them. And all of
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a sudden— A lot.
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: Of those biolabs were built under Obama.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of a sudden, guess what? Victoria Nuland
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: had to admit, oh, we do have biolabs there. They
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: didn't admit to it, but then they admitted to it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: And they were saying, well, why are the Russians going
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: here and here and here? Well, they were going there
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: to get all of this stuff and shut these places
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: down because they saw what COVID did. But I say
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Fauci will never be held responsible for the AIDS situation.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: He'll never be held responsible for COVID and the people
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: that died from that. And I go one step further
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: with you because you sound like an informed guy. Do
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you believe for one second that this brand new tick
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: that bites you and you can't eat meat works? Do
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you believe that was lab-created? Because I do.
• 47:09
  Speaker 16: If you go down the... One of my calls before,
• 47:12
  Speaker 16: I mentioned about the whole... I think there's an island
• 47:14
  Speaker 16: up in New York.
• 47:14
  Speaker 14: It was called..
• 47:15
  Speaker 16: It actually has a designation, the island, but it's called
• 47:18
  Speaker 16: Tick Island.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: It was a U.S.
• 47:20
  Speaker 16: Army base that was doing experiments on tick colonies.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: But yes, to go back to this tick.
• 47:24
  Speaker 16: One here, that alpha-gal syndrome has been around, but it
• 47:29
  Speaker 16: hasn't been..
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: It wasn't very..
• 47:31
  Speaker 16: It was sort of rare.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: But just..
• 47:35
  Speaker 16: A month ago, there was a guy on stage, and
• 47:38
  Speaker 16: I think he was speaking at Davos.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:41
  Speaker 16: And he said, he goes, oh, yeah, there's this tick,
• 47:43
  Speaker 16: you know, that if it bites you, it becomes, you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 16: you become alerted. There is that discussion of human engineering.
• 47:51
  Speaker 16: So right there, you know, they're admitting, you know, like
• 47:54
  Speaker 16: I sort of believe that they have to tell you
• 47:55
  Speaker 16: what they're going to do. It's something about the cabal
• 47:58
  Speaker 16: that they have to tell you what they're going to do.
• 48:00
  Speaker 16: They can't, you know, some way, somehow, you know, if
• 48:02
  Speaker 16: you look at movies, you look at cartoons, there's little
• 48:05
  Speaker 16: hidden signs or figures or symbols. And if you look there.
• 48:12
  Speaker 16: So that being said, to go back to the labs,
• 48:17
  Speaker 16: maybe this is a question for G2.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: I'd like to hear.
• 48:19
  Speaker 16: His comment on that. At one point, on Telegram, I
• 48:23
  Speaker 16: was following something, and it said that, you know how
• 48:25
  Speaker 16: Trump used to always say, you know, that it originated
• 48:27
  Speaker 16: in China? But I had seen a map of the Ukraine,
• 48:31
  Speaker 16: and it actually labeled a place over there that was
• 48:34
  Speaker 16: spelled China, but it was C-H-Y-N-A. I've never got a
• 48:38
  Speaker 16: real confirmation on that. I'd kind of like to see
• 48:40
  Speaker 16: if there's anything else. Maybe GT knows somebody else, but
• 48:46
  Speaker 16: maybe it was a way that potentially Trump was... calling
• 48:49
  Speaker 16: out that it wasn't really from China, China. It was
• 48:51
  Speaker 16: from China and Ukraine of these labs.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: I don't buy that because the lab in China was
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the lab that was dealing with the COVID virus. But
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Fauci was the liar who said, oh, this wasn't man-made.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: This came from nature. This came from this bat. This
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: was all a lie. It was all a cover up.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: And it was all a cover up to say we
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: could have fixed these people relatively inexpensive that had COVID.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: But if we did, then we couldn't have the vaccine.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, the whole thing is a cover-up.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And once again, no one's being held responsible. The island
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: you're talking about in New York is Plum Island, P-L-U-M.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Plum Island, there you go.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Yep, there you go.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: And that's where, just for people that are listening, that
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: was an island with a military biolab on it that
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: was experimenting in guess what?
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Ticks.
• 49:49
  Speaker 11: Ticks.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: You know how they got off? Bear with me one minute.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: They were infecting ticks on this island to use. This
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: is how sick some of these bastards are, to use
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: ticks as warfare. And they created, what, Lyme disease? And
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I also believe Rocky Mountain spotted fever, if I'm not mistaken.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Well, do you know how the book tells you how.
• 50:13
  Speaker 16: The ticks basically got off the island? They accounted for
• 50:15
  Speaker 16: everything except for birds. And birds came in and would
• 50:18
  Speaker 16: pick up a tick, and that's how it got off
• 50:20
  Speaker 16: the island.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: There's actually a book about that.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read it. I think it's Lab 457 or
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 50:28
  Speaker 16: Right, 257, yeah, right, something like that.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, so it got off that and also on deer's
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: faces because the deer would swim. They didn't know deer
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: could swim. They'd swim from the island to the mainland,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and they would bring them over as well. And they
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: found this outbreak of the disease that the ticks were
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: infected with, in Plum Island, in this military thing, it
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: broke out in a community called what? Lyme, New York.
• 50:55
  Speaker 16: Lyme, New York, yeah.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: And it was so concentrated there because of Plum Island
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: and what the military was doing there. That's why it's
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: called Lyme disease. Now, many of you listening probably know
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: nothing about this, but this is the strange stuff that's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: going on that could wipe out mankind. When they're doing
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: these gate-of-function experiments... They can come up with some of
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: this stuff that could kill half the population. You mentioned Davos.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: We're in Davos. They say the great things, these arrogant SOBs.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. What are we
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: going to do with all these worthless people? Remember when
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: you hear them make these statements?
• 51:32
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 51:32
  Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a bottom. I've told people they think I'm
• 51:36
  Speaker 16: crazy or whatever, and I say, hey, are you on
• 51:38
  Speaker 16: the list? What list are you on?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Are you on the cut list?
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:43
  Speaker 16: Because if you're not, it doesn't matter if you're a doctor,
• 51:46
  Speaker 16: a plumber, an electrician. If you're on the cut list,
• 51:48
  Speaker 16: you're on the cut list. It doesn't matter what your
• 51:51
  Speaker 16: belief is. You're going to be right beside me on
• 51:54
  Speaker 16: the guillotine regardless of whether you didn't or did believe
• 51:58
  Speaker 16: what I was saying before.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, and don't you think that, I commend
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: you because you know so much about it, yet the
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: person listening, they got to think, oh, it's the Art
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Bell Show, or they got to think that we're loony bins.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: But everything you're saying, I give you an aye-aye, Captain.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Every single thing that you're saying, you're on top of it.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: And doesn't it make it difficult sometimes for you to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: sleep at night knowing this crap is going on?
• 52:26
  Speaker 16: Well, you know, Yes, at times. Through COVID, yeah, I
• 52:31
  Speaker 16: was hard. Really, you know, because I have a family,
• 52:35
  Speaker 16: young children.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I have a great life.
• 52:37
  Speaker 16: I have a great wife, great family. You know, you
• 52:41
  Speaker 16: think about stuff like that when you go to sleep.
• 52:43
  Speaker 16: What can I do to change this? And there was
• 52:47
  Speaker 16: nothing you could do. As a husband and a father,
• 52:49
  Speaker 16: you felt helpless. So, yeah, I did have many sleepless nights.
• 52:54
  Speaker 16: So after you go through it, you tend to go,
• 52:59
  Speaker 16: I sort of tended to start to just go, I
• 53:01
  Speaker 16: can only control what's in front of me, and I
• 53:04
  Speaker 16: didn't want my thoughts or fears to alter my kids'
• 53:14
  Speaker 16: upbringing or their happiness.
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: So I tried to.
• 53:19
  Speaker 16: Put on a smiley face and just be the husband father.
• 53:23
  Speaker 16: You know, I didn't try. I didn't want them to
• 53:25
  Speaker 16: be walking around the house.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: But here's what's troubling is how your your government lies
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: to you, how it lies and covers up as Americans
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: the truth and the agenda that's going on. It's just total,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: total lies that they tell you.
• 53:41
  Speaker 16: It's been going on for 100 years.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: And they get away with it. Fauci will never be
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: held accountable. He's a very wealthy man as a result
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: of it. The COVID lab will never be held accountable.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: The people on Plum Island will never be held accountable.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: The Epstein people will never be held accountable. But we
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: have justice for Joe Bagadonis. We have justice for you.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: But all these people that do things that are so
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: horrendous and they simply get away with it. That's why
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: people talk about a two-tier justice system. And that's why
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: people say to themselves, it's just ridiculous. It's just a
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: double standard. And they're accurate and they're true. As I
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday, just as they lied to Vietnam vets and said, though,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: this Agent Orange had nothing to do with these weird
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: cancers that they were getting, until it became so overwhelming
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: they had to admit to it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I believe there.
• 54:34
  Speaker 16: Is a cure for cancer, but you've got to think
• 54:35
  Speaker 16: about how much money they'd lose. You know, if they
• 54:38
  Speaker 16: cured it. They don't want to cure nothing.
• 54:40
  Speaker 14: They want to treat it.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I have been reading about, to some extent they think,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: what I've been reading is that some people believe cancer
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: is almost like a parasite, if you will.
• 54:51
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I've heard that about worms and stuff like that.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: And they're saying that some people are using ivermectin and
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I forget the other drug. I have to do that.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: There's a combination that they're using that they say, okay,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: it's the tumor went away or the cancer went away.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: It's fascinating.
• 55:13
  Speaker 16: And I don't know the name. My wife would know.
• 55:14
  Speaker 16: But there's a doctor actually that was videotaped. I want
• 55:18
  Speaker 16: to say in the 70s it was talking about certain
• 55:21
  Speaker 16: oils like wormwood oil and stuff, a combination, and you
• 55:27
  Speaker 16: were treating people.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: I'm 70.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: WKBN. IDL 425 in the afternoon. Ron Ferb, News Radio 570.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: WKBN from the kingdom of Mahoning here. 75 degrees. It's
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: a glorious, really wonderful Tuesday afternoon. That last guy was
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: really a smart dude. I mean, some people at call
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: are just really, really on top of things. And sometimes
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I picture when you hear some of this stuff, you
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: think we're a bunch of lunatics, or you think it's
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: the yard bell program and all this kind of stuff.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: I get it, but it's not. I mean, this stuff is,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: if you look into this and you realize some of
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: the stuff that's covered, that's just covered up, And it's
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: just really, the older you get in life or the
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: more life you live, you just sit back and you
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: watch it, starting with Agent Orange in Vietnam and a
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: cover-up that happened there. And then you go through, I mean,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: there was always people concerned about what they were being
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: told with the Kennedy assassination. And the lack of information
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: people get about any of these other assassination attempts, it's
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: like they happen and you know nothing more about the
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: people involved. It's like silence. Silence. It's like it's none
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: of the public's business.
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: And..
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: When you hear a guy like that that says... When
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: you read this book, it's hard... It's just hard to
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: imagine a place called Plum Island in New York, the
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: military lab going on with ticks and Lyme disease. And
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: now it's... Now it haunts us because... of where it
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: originates from. But do you hear them ever talk about it?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Do you hear them ever admit to it? They never
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: admit to any of this stuff. It just gets leaked out.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: And they always deny, deny, deny. I had a cousin
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: who died. He was bit by a tick and he
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: got Rocky Mountain spotted fever and he died. I mean,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: I was just kind of, what?
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: What?
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: And now they're talking about how bad a tick season
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: it is this year. But, I mean, it was just
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: kind of, you just say, what? And a buddy of
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: mine got, I remember he got the bullseye from Lyme
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: disease and went to the doctor. If you don't catch
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: it in time, that can give you some serious problems
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: as time goes on. But, and now this thing, do
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: any of you watch that show, The Pioneer Woman? My
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: wife watches that. It's a cooking show. Well, her daughter's
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: husband got bit by that tick that makes you allergic
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: to meat. I think they live in Texas or somewhere out,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: obviously out on some big farm, but he got bit
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: by it. And that makes you so you can't stand
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: eating meat anymore. But just think, you know, all of
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: a sudden there's this tick and then the prevalence of it's,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: being everywhere anymore. Right after Bill Gates got done talking
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: about making fake meat and how we got to stop
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: whatever environmentally, it's bad to have cows graze and all
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. It's just, some of these people
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I think are just lunatics, evil lunatics. And I know
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: it's hard for a lot of you to imagine some
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: of the stuff we're saying, but take it all in,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: read about it, check it out yourself.
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: That's all I can ask. Call us on the line.
• 59:03
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• 59:05
  Speaker 2: tonight until 7 o'clock. Welcome to a Tuesday. Ron Verb,
• 59:09
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• 59:14
  Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570 WKVN.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: What a glorious looking Tuesday afternoon. It's June 23rd already,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: almost the end of June. And then it's the end
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: of July. It's just right around the corner, 75 degrees.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: It's just beautiful outside today. Excellent calls on the program today,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: and you're on the air.
• 59:33
  Speaker 21: I got a lot of grass to cut out there.
• 59:35
  Speaker 21: I mean, I got to get to it, so here
• 59:37
  Speaker 21: we go.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy, I tell you, Mr. Irritable on the line.
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: Irritable?
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Irritable.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: It's like I got work to do. I got work
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 59:47
  Speaker 21: Well, you keep telling me how I sit around on
• 59:49
  Speaker 21: my thumbs and don't do anything at my age.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Well, at your age..
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: What did you do today?
• 59:54
  Speaker 21: You went to the mailbox. You took a drive to
• 59:57
  Speaker 21: the store.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I understand, you old people. You're getting
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: upset at me because I have..
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: No, no, no.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: I can figure out.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 21: I'm not getting.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Upset with you. I know, but do I know how
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: to identify you old people and what you do today?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Like I say, here's old people like you. Okay, what
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: are you going to do today? Well, I got a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: doctor's appointment. I got to go to the dentist. I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: got a doctor's appointment. I got to go to the
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: grocery store. I got to get the mail. It's just
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 21: I'm just going to say a.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Few words here.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: It's a very typical day. It's a typical day for
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: old people. That's what old people do.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 21: Don't blink your eyes, young man. Don't blink your eyes
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 21: because you'll be in that situation before you know it.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: When you woke up today, did you say, okay? What
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: time did you wake up? Usually a lot of times
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: you wake up.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 21: I woke up today, put my feet on the ground
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 21: and said, I love the smell of the morning in
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 21: the morning.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You're just happy to wake up. Believe me when I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: tell you, you might find this hard to believe. I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: am too anymore. When you open your eyes and you say, hallelujah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 11: I'm still here.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Right, on that kind of stuff. But listen, I'm the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: first guy to tell you, and all poking fun aside,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I picture you as a guy that genuinely is enjoying
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: his retirement.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: I am.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 21: I am.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 10: You know what?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 21: I don't have to get up at 5.30 in the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 21: morning anymore or 4.30 or whatever it was at the time.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 21: I don't have to do that anymore. I don't have
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 21: to run and wiggle my butt for anybody but me
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 21: and my family.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: And how long have you been retired, roughly?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 21: You've been trying since five years ago to get into
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 21: my personal life.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: I let you in a little bit.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 21: You tricked me into it a couple of times.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I know, but 20 years?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: I've been retired.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: 20 years, right, at least?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 21: I've been retired quite a bit.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: All right, so think about that.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: In the beginning, it was.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: A little hard.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 21: In the beginning, I didn't really, no, I shouldn't say that. No,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 21: I worked part-time for almost 11 years after I retired.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 21: I worked part-time, which was really five days a week,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 21: and I quit that after about 11 years. I worked
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 21: for a company that transferred young kids around to different schools.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 21: The mistake The misfits in the area here that were
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 21: thrown out of their schools that had to go to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 21: other places.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 21: Well, this is the people that he had. I took
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 21: people to doctor's appointments. I was down to UPMC up
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 21: at Cleveland Clinic. I was all over Columbiana County. Anyway,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 21: I did that. I enjoyed it because it was easy money,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 21: and I did not have to wiggle my butt too much.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, plus you got to see people.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: You realized how lucky you were when you were taking somebody,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: let's say, to UPMC because they got a serious health
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: issue or whatever.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 21: Well, I realized how good I have it when I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 21: was 22 years old. I'm not going to get into that.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 21: There's a story there that you'll.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Never find over here. You can't let that out and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: expect me to say, How does somebody realize how good
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: they got it when they're 22? Usually at 22, that's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: the last thing you realize. How did you come to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: realize it?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 21: That is a story that I'm going to keep to myself.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 21: Just believe me when I tell you.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: But you're 22. I can't believe you. I can't even
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: make a connection when you said I come to realize
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: whatever at 22. Listen, I got a crisp new $ 1
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: bill here. If you want to tell that story, I'll
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: give it to you.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 21: I could mesmerize you for the next hour and a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 21: half by telling you that story.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Because at 22, you would think, would something happen at
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: 22 that was life-changing for you?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 21: Without a doubt. Without a doubt.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: Without a doubt.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I don't care. What happens at 22?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 21: I don't want to talk about Fifth Avenue.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about what happened at 22 that
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: was life-changing for you.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 21: If I ever run into you in person and you
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 21: remember what we're talking about at this time, I may
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 21: tell you, but I'm not telling you on the phone.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Was it the first time you had sexual relations?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 21: Not even close.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I had to ask.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 21: I had to tell you.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: It was life-changing. I thought that might have been life-changing
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: for you. Possibly, right? I mean, now I'm trying to guess.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to speculate on what it is. But look,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: you've had a long, healthy retirement.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 21: And I have been a very lucky individual, and I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 21: appreciate it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Now, do you look around at your peers? Do you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: look around at your peers that are dead or they
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: are not in the best of health?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: Neighbors, their children have died.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 21: Many children have passed away of my neighbors, of friends.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 21: I mean, we're not talking just people my age.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: But you know what? It's called life.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 21: And like you said, you wake up in the morning,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 21: and holy mackerel, we got another trip around the sun.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 21: We're doing good.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: And you should take a beautiful day like today. I mean,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: this is ideal weather. It's 75 degrees. I hope you
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: sit out on your front porch and just suck in
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: some of this day. Just look at the beautiful sky
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: and enjoy the beautiful temperatures. And just thank the Lord.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 21: I've also got a yard to take care of. I've
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 21: got a house to take care of. I've got obligations
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 21: in different directions. Like everybody else that calls into your show,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 21: I'm not alone. I'm not alone.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: You don't have major obligations. You're an old guy.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 21: I don't have major.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I have obligations.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you look at your to-do list,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: it says floss teeth.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 21: I carry those around in my back pocket every day.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 21: I don't have to write it down. I just have
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 21: to touch my back pocket. I do it twice a day.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Here's your schedule. Wake up. Eat breakfast. Clean up. Get dressed.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Read the paper. Lounge around a little bit. Figure out
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: what's for lunch. then go outside and see what the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: neighbors are doing, take a walk, and go to the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: grocery store. Or maybe go to the mall and take
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: a walk.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 21: No, my brother does that. I don't go out the mall.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Really? Mm-hmm. Do you feel safe walking in your neighborhood
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: where your mansion is? Are you safe there? Do you
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: feel threatened?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 21: Yes, I feel very safe.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Now, when you walk, because I see..
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 21: I can still handle myself. I'm not worried about it.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I see, like, a lot of times when I see
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: old people like you walking, they're carrying like a golf
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: club to beat off stray dogs and stuff like that.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 21: Stray dogs and strangers that happen to live maybe on
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 21: the west side.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: No, I don't mean that. You mean in the township
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: of Austintown?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 21: I didn't say that.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: You were implying it.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 21: I could keep you going here for the rest of
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 21: the show, but you're not.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Going to let me.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 21: Are you familiar with all of it? First of all,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 21: I want to say I'm going to go out on
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 21: a limb.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 21: No, I'm going to retract that.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: No, go out on a limb. Come on, live dangerously.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go out on a limb.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 21: I'm not going to go out on a limb. I'm
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 21: going to make a statement.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: A lot of your callers, a lot of your callers..
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 21: Are so misinformed, are under-read, that they have to pay
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 21: more attention to reading and books and not having tunnel
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 21: vision by just listening to Fox News. It hurts my heart.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: It really does. It hurts my heart.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 21: Inability of a lot of your callers that call in
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 21: and they spew this stuff out Like it's the god-awful truth,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 21: and that's the way it is, and they know it
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 21: for a fact. Do you know who Oliver Cromwell was?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I know who Oliver Redmond was.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Was.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: Redenbacher.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 21: Who was Oliver Redenbacher? That was the pilot?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Is it Rickenbacker?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: Is that who you mean?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I thought he made popcorn. Wasn't that the guy with
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: the popcorn?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: That guy, too.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 21: Anyway, I have five pages here, but you're not going.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: To let me. I can't.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Well, let me hear you. Go ahead. Don't read to me.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 21: It's very interesting. The reason that I took the time
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 21: from investigative journalism is because it fits to what's going on.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 21: I mean, it really does.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: It really fits.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 21: Loyalty to the party is, this has nothing to do
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 21: with Cromwell. Loyalty to the party is paramount. The party
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 21: told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 21: It was their final, most essential command.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Do you know what that's from?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: The Bible?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: No, it's not.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: The book of John?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 21: No, the Book of Ron. It's from Oliver Cromwell. Not Cromwell,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 21: excuse me.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Orwell, 1984.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 21: And if you read 1984, you're going to, I don't
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 21: know if you ever did, but I highly recommend it.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: I really do. And I hope you do.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 21: Loyalty to the Party. Loyalty to the Party is paramount.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 21: And they told you to reject the evidence of your
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 21: eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 21: You will see how much it fits with what's going
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 21: on today. But I have... Oh, my goodness. I know
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 21: it falls on deaf ears because you're too into this.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 21: You've said a few things not... And recently, like you're
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 21: talking about the immigration and all that, and the one
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 21: thing that you disagreed with, and you had a caller
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 21: call in, and they were just bouncing all over you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 21: because you didn't go along with what the party was
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 21: talking about. But you stood your ground. I mean, you
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 21: stood your ground. Yes. That's when my heart flips out
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 21: of my chest for you, when you actually stand your ground.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 21: And you don't let these people who are hardcore MAGA
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 21: individuals that are not going to see the truth as...
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 21: And that's the other thing. I mean, you're telling these
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 21: things on this radio.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: The truth.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 10: Becomes..
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 21: The falseness becomes the truth when it's repeated and repeated
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 21: and repeated. It becomes the truth. And that's what's happening
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 21: in this world today.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: And it's sad. That's sad.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 21: That bothers me to no end. As an old guy,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 21: that bothers me. And I try not to let anything
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 21: bother me.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: No, at your age, because you could keel over tomorrow.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: I sure could.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Or when you're out there mowing the grass today or
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: something like that. I mean, it could happen.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 21: Well, at least I got a rider, so I'm not
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 21: going to be walking behind it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Did you leave me anything in the will?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Not yet.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Well, you've got to make some changes.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 21: It all depends on your presentations that you present to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 21: us on your program.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: And if you.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: Change any of your..
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to save the world on a daily basis.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 21: If you really change a lot of your attitude and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 21: the way you look at things, especially with..
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: When did.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 21: Palm Island come into your purview?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Well, when I read the book, I forget the title
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: of the book. It was like Lab 457 or whatever.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: It was a military name for the lab that was
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: on Plum Island. That's when it came into my purview.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: There's a book out about it.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 21: Well, I'm asking for how long ago did you know
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 21: about it? When did you first find out about it?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a couple years ago. Okay.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 21: Plum Island has been around and been the nefarious place
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 21: that you're talking about for a long time.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 21: A long time. Long before... Trump and Fauci and..
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: That has nothing to.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 11: Do with Trump.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 21: Long time ago.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I know. I know the book goes way back before
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: any of those guys were around, but it's talking about
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: the military experiments that were taking place there that involved
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: ticks and Lyme disease and why it's called Lyme disease
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: and what happened. All I do is... Listen, I don't
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: care if you're a Republican or Democrat. I just wish
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: the government would admit to the mistakes... that they make.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm asking.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 21: There are certain things that the government has to do
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 21: to guarantee your safety. That's what... Am I saying it's
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 21: right or wrong? No, I'm not going to commit either way.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 21: But that's what that's... My reasoning behind what they do
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 21: is to try and keep this nation safe. I really
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 21: believe there are people... Are there people that are rotten
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 21: to the core that are involved?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, of course.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 21: But overall, they have the country in mind, except for
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 21: the last six years. I don't want to even get
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 21: into that. I can't get into it.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: Because you know what?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 21: If I start getting into it at my age, you're right.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 21: I might flatline, and you'll have to call an ambulance,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 21: but you won't know where to send it.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: I would personally get in my car and drive immediately
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: to your house and administer CPR.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: I bet you.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 21: Well, that's a nice thought. If you knew where I live,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 21: that's a nice thought.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: I would track you down.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: All right. Get out and get the lawn done and
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: enjoy your beautiful day. It is always a pleasure to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: hear your voice. Is there anything else?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 21: I want you to always take care of yourself. And
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 21: I'm proud to hear that you're finally getting off a
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 21: lot of that.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: Sugar.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. I haven't. I haven't had to pop for
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: the longest time.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 21: That's one change that you made that's going to help you. Now,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 21: think of the other bad habits that you had, and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 21: I don't want to go into that one. I'm sure
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 21: you're not going to change that.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: One.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 21: And you've got to make a change. Thank you.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: It's a joy hearing your voice. I'll come back and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: take more calls right after this.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 18: Youngstown's News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: All right, onward we go. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, how are you?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I'm well, thank you. How are you?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: Good, I'm good. This is Christine Oliver.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Christine Oliver. Christine Oliver. Congratulations on your victory during the primary.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Thank you.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: I was calling in for a couple of reasons. One,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: just calling in to say hello. We're getting ready to
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: kick off the campaign, as you know, on Thursday at
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: the fireplace. And the Campanas are wonderful people. I'm sure
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: if you stopped by, you would be the celebrity of
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: the night because everyone likes to talk to you. And
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: we're getting ready to do a bunch of parades and
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: hard work, and we're ready for that. But Also importantly,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: we are getting ready to do two Back the Blue
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Ohio events, and the one date we have is going
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: to be September 26th on the green. It's our seventh one,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: and we're going to be honoring Trooper Caton. from Canfield.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: And then we are working with John Kruf Leitner right
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: now to put together a big car show for the Valley,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: and it will be to help the children for Back
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: to Blue. So I just wanted to share that news.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Which you've done for years, just so people know. You've
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: done those events for many, many, many years. So one
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: of your supporters called in and he said, if you
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: get elected, you'll champion getting our property taxes lowered with
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: the As a commissioner, you would champion getting that, what
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: do you say?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: Doubling of the homestead exemption and increasing the owner occupancy.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Right. And you believe in them and you champion it
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: against or try to get one of the other commissioners
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: to go along with you, right? I think it's that important.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: And you know from experience that what I stand up
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: for and when, what I fight for in a good
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: way is to help people. And I'm, I'm not afraid
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: to stand up for what I believe in and for
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: what's best for our taxpayers. So, you know, that I
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: will definitely be championing for them and for our seniors, um,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: including protecting them in various ways.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Years ago, I think there was a guy named John Salitas,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. And he, I thought he was
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: like the, um, um, county like on on budsman that
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: would help people with nursing home issues do you remember
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: him or not i mean i'm going back a ways
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: i don't know if you remember him i.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: Do not but i think that's very important oh i think.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: It's extremely important all right stand by.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 22: From ABC News, I'm Lindsay Davis, anchor of Prime Streaming
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 22: Weeknights on ABC News Live. On the 10th try, the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 22: Senate today finally approved a resolution to end the Iran war.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 22: a bipartisan rebuke made possible by the hospitalization of Republican
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 22: Mitch McConnell.
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  Speaker 19: On this motion, the yeas are 50, the nays are 48.
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  Speaker 19: The concurrent motion is agreed to.
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  Speaker 22: Just now in a statement, the White House says there
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 22: are no hostilities and so this motion has no significance.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 22: President Trump is asking for another $ 80 billion mostly to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 22: finance the war on top of the nearly $ 30 billion
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 22: the Pentagon says has been spent already. Trump calls it
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 22: a very cheap price to pay to stop a nuclear Iran.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 22: And about that effort, there are contradicting statements. ABC's Karen Travers.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 23: President Trump Tuesday insisting the Iranians have agreed to allow
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 23: nuclear inspectors into their country, despite a spokesman for Iran's
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 23: foreign ministry saying they have no plans for that.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: They're wrong.
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  Speaker 7: They're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: They know they're wrong.
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  Speaker 13: They told us inside and we have it down 100
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 13: percent inspections.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: And if they were right, I'd cancel the meetings right now.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 23: Asked when inspectors would actually be on the ground in Iran,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 23: the president said there is no rush. It will be
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 23: at the appropriate time. Vice President Vance Monday said he
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 23: expects the inspectors to start their work this week.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Karen Travers, ABC News, the White House.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 22: The Supreme Court rules border agents may remove green card
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 22: holders who may have committed a crime involving moral turpitude.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 22: It also ruled that a Rastafarian former prison inmate in
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 22: Louisiana cannot sue guards for cutting his dreadlocks against his will.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 22: And the high court ruled that if you lose your
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 22: house in a tax sale, you are not owed fair
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 22: market value from the government. Bargain hunters are all over
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 22: Amazon today looking for those Prime Day deals.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 24: Amazon's summer sales event is kicking off today, and it'll
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 24: run through Friday. Adobe Analytics predicts it'll likely drive over
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 24: $ 26 billion in spending over three days, a 9% jump
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 24: from last year.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 22: ABC's Jim Ryan, a sell-off in tech stocks today. You're
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 22: listening to ABC News.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: KBN.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: All right. News Radio 570, WKBN 506. Do you remember
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: years ago, and I think that was a guy's name,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: John Salitas, if I'm not mistaken. He was like the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: ombudsman for people that had issues with nursing homes. And
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he worked for the state or
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: the county back then. I can't remember who employed him.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: I do know that there is supposed to be one
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: for the state, but I don't. I truly believe we
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: need somebody on a local level to help our loved
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: ones more. I absolutely believe that.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: As far as what, like inspections or somebody that people
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: can call to go, a family could call out of
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: concern to have them go look into something or something?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 9: Both.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 12: I think both.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: I think we need accountability and we need someone that
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: families can reach out to and feel, you know, comfortable
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: to be able to talk to them and tell them
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: their concerns and get help for their loved ones, you know,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: advocate for them. Just like advocating for our people for
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: the property taxes, working with the other commissioners and working
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: with our state legislators to be able to find some
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: relief for people.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: I see in Trumbull County, they're, they're talking about, uh,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: dealing with that this week and voting uh to on
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: both of those issues i believe in trumbull county this
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: week the commissioners there are going to do that and
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: i'll be happy to see that happen uh did you
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: happen to see it was in the paper the there
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: was a woman that had oh what's she had some
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: type of a of uh an operation or whatever and
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: then She had to go into rehab. She was 60
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: years old, Christine, and she was sent to a nursing
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: home for rehab. Okay, so she wasn't elderly or anything
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: like that. And they had her on like the opioids
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: for pain. I forget what the procedure was that she
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: had done, but they had her on opioids for pain.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: And they said, you know, be cognizant that that can
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: cause her to be constipated and everything. And they did
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: not monitor her and she did not have a bowel
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: movement for weeks and ultimately died as a result of that.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: And out of total neglect that nobody was paying attention, hey,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: this woman hasn't had a bowel movement for several weeks
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: because of the opioids that she was on for pain
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: and as a result of this procedure, which she should
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: have recovered from and been perfectly healthy. I mean, there's
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: a shining example of A staff not doing its job, right?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: That happened to a gentleman I read about in the past,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: I think, six months. That happened in a group home.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: There was only like two people in that home. Same thing.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: He hadn't had any bowel movements, and he had passed
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: away because of it as well.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's in all the money that all the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: money that you pay these these organizations or these homes
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It's not unusual to pay eight, nine, ten
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month. And they don't they don't hire
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: enough people. They don't pay them enough. I mean, the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: people that actually administer the care are understaffed and underpaid.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Would you agree?
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: I do agree with you.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it's just, it's really sad. It's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: really sad. All right, Christine. Well, best of luck to you.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: Good talking with you. Go champion. Get us some tax relief.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Go get them.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: Thank you. You have a great day.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Christine Oliver. News Radio 570. You're on the air.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Hi, Ron.
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  Speaker 12: Hey, interesting that you were just talking to Christine about
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 12: the nursing home. I broke my leg in November and
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: ended up in a, But I thought it was going
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 12: to be a rehab, and it ended up being that way,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 12: more like a nursing home. And quite frankly, I was
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 12: probably one of the few people who was cognizant as
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 12: to what was going on.
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  Speaker 2: They drug so many people up, and I am shocked.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: You're bringing up an excellent point, because as I've said
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: in the past, my mother had a stroke, and you
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: go around, and she needed a uh, skilled nursing care.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: And we would go, not my brothers would go if
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: I would go when I could to visit her every
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: day or every other day to keep an eye on
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: what was on the treatments. And I remember the administrator
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: there said, everybody who's here and nobody wants to be
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: here of everybody who's here, unfortunately. They have to be here.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: And my mother was cognizant of everything. She said, this
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: is no way to live. And you would see people,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: they would just be, it was like they were drugged.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: They were just like kind of totally out of reality
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 12: And lined up in the hallway in their wheelchairs.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Yes. And like they were stoned out of it. You
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: are spot on. It was shocking to me when I
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: would go and look at this thinking, What do you do?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Just drug these people up so they're not, you don't
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: have to do anything with them, but just roll them
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: out in the hallway and talk at the nursing station
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: or what?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 12: Well, that's pretty much it. And you can never, you
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 12: have to really get into the rhythm of what people,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 12: when they come on, when they come off. There's certain
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 12: times you can't, you don't have, you know, when it's mealtime,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 12: morning and lunchtime, don't even press. the button like you
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 12: need help or you need because they're not going to
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 12: come because it's breakfast or it's meal time or it's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 12: you know so you really have to learn their rhythm
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 12: one of the most interesting things is I had one
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 12: operation on my leg and then I had to go
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 12: back two weeks later and have a second one and
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 12: you know they have the transport that's supposed to come
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 12: in and everything and I'm was told what time I'm
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 12: ready to go. My therapy people, you know, were sitting there,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 12: and then they walked in and said, oh, you missed
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 12: your transport. And I said, how could I do that? Well,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 12: they didn't answer the door in the back, and they
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 12: didn't answer the phone. You see, they were getting ready
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 12: to leave or change shifts. And it breaks my heart
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 12: to think of other people, and I said, well, what
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 12: are we going to do about that? And she's like, well,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 12: you'll just have to reschedule. I said, yeah, that ain't happening.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 12: I said, we have a hospital operating room waiting for us,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 12: the surgeon, the anesthesiologist. Maybe you can take... I'm going.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 12: I'm getting there. But if I were older, I would
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 12: just have had to wait and maybe wait another week
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 12: or two pushing back the healing process.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: The food, awful.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: Horrible.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 12: Everything is processed.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 14: Everything.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 12: You can't get any fresh food at almost at all.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 12: And these people aren't... You're not going to get better
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 12: because the diet is bad. But the interesting thing is
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 12: they had a guy from Ohio, an inspector, and he
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 12: ended up coming in. They found out that he was coming.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: They..
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 12: You know, you go for therapy, came back, your whole
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 12: room is different.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 8: It's cleaned.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 12: Things are gone. I lost my deodorant, my toothpaste, my whatever.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 12: They just cleared off everything. And there were some of
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 12: the other older people lost the blanket. They lost their,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 12: because they were making it nice for the inspectors. but
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 12: people lost their favorite mug. They lost all of their stuff. And, um,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 12: it was really an experience, an eyeopening experience that just,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 12: just broke my heart. And you're right.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: It's not cheap.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 12: And they get a lot of the Part-time people who
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 12: don't do this, they just do it for money, and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 12: I guess they came on during COVID because the money
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 12: was really good, but they really don't have a heart.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 10: It's just.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 12: They just go through the motions.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: I'll be the first one to say, and I would
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: hope you would agree. Listen, when you get into these
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: facilities like you're talking about and you experienced it firsthand,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: the people that actually do your care, they're understaffed and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: they're underpaid. And it's a very difficult job. They're understaffed, underpaid.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: They got too many patients that are very, very demanding.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: And it's an emotional draining job for someone to do.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: And you need more people and better pay for the
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: amount that you're paying per month in these facilities.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 12: It was, you know, and it's just, I mean, some
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 12: of them did the best they could, and you knew
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 12: that this was in their heart, and there was an
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 12: awful lot of them, and they're usually the people that
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 12: are there, like, overnight or whatever. But, I mean, it
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 12: could be worse.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: It could be worse.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 12: But it was pretty bad, and yeah, that's why I
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 12: called it the facility and not like rehab. And the
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 12: moment that you get there, they talk about, well, you've
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 12: got to get ready to go home. You've got to
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 12: get ready to go home, which, of course, but I
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 12: couldn't walk. I couldn't put any weight at all. I mean,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 12: I broke my leg November 13th, and I wasn't cleared
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 12: to put any weight on it until mid-March. So all
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 12: winter long, I, you know, took care of my, thank
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 12: God for DoorDash and Walmart delivery.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: But I mean, you saw it firsthand, so I would
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: ask you this question. And you're talking about rehabbing from
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: a broken leg. So I would say to you, in
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: all seriousness, do you get, are you fearful as you
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: grow older of ending up in a facility like you're
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: describing because you have a stroke, because you have some
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: type of problem which requires you to have that type
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: of care. And what you saw firsthand, it's a frightening thought.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, thank God you only were there for a
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: broken leg and that you're healthy again. But it is
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: a frightening thought. I often tell people that are old
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: enough to remember, I remember Dick Clark, when he was
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: being interviewed by Larry King, Larry King said, what do
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: you fear most as you get older, Dick? And he said,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: having a stroke. And do you remember when you would
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: see Dick Clark on the New Year's Eve show? He
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: was having difficulty talking because he had a stroke. The
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: thing he feared the most happened to him. And it
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: can happen to anybody. And you can end up in
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: one of these facilities for any number of ailments that
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: you might have permanently. I mean, that is your life.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: And can you imagine that?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 12: For me, too, my mother had a stroke. She had
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 12: a little mini brain bleed, so she kind of had
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 12: a little mini stroke, and then she ended up actually
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 12: having a stroke. And, of course, you never know what
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 12: you're going to get. But this was about 13 years ago.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 12: She's passed away now. But anyhow, I think It wasn't
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 12: as bad. I mean, I think she was in some
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 12: better places than I was. I think that sometimes the
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 12: quality of them have gone down.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: I suspect they're having the same problems that a lot
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: of employers are having, finding people to show up and
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: do the work. As I say, it is a difficult job,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: an emotionally draining job. And grossly underpaid for what these
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: workers do in these nursing care facilities. The owners make
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: a fortune. I mean, there are people that are, the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: companies that own them and all that, they're living a
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: grand lifestyle. But the care that the patient gets is
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: just god-awful in too many cases.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, and this one was pretty full. I mean,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 12: it was pretty popular because it does in-houses. dialysis. So
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 12: it was one of those that if that's something that
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 12: you needed.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Well, that's where you got to go. It's just, it's,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: it's just, it's, it's part of the thing that I
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people fear and justify. Listen, as
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: you grow older and if you stay healthy, count your
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: blessings every, every single day. Hope that when it's your time,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: you have a heart attack and go quickly and you don't,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Linger in some nursing home or something along those lines.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: Life is very precious. Life is so fragile. It's so
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: precious that when you get a day like today, you
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: should enjoy 72 degrees. It's a beautiful day here in Ohio.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: You should enjoy every minute of this. And when people
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: get wound up and when I see people get pissed
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: about just some of the smallest things, I think to myself, man,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: your priorities are really messed up. In all seriousness, I
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: thank God every day I wake up and that I'm healthy.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: And it's hard to have a bad day when you
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: wake up and you're healthy. That's not a bad day. And,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: you know, any minor issue, you can always overcome it.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: A major issue is when they look at you and
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: tell you you got stage four cancer. A major issue
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: is when you have a stroke. These are major life-changing issues.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: If you don't have that, thank God for, no matter
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: what age you are, because it can change in the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: blink of an eye.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 12: Well, I mean, exactly. And I'm 70 years old, but
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 12: I'm pretty functional, normal. And I was doing too much
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 12: at once, and I fell down the cellar steps, and
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 12: I fractured right under my knee, my right tibia. and
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 12: landed on the heap on the bottom of the steps.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 23: I live alone.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 12: I had to call the... Unfortunately, I had my phone
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 12: on me. Always keep your phone on you people. And
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 12: I was able to, yes, and they had the ambulance come.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 12: But I'll tell you, it was a real turning point
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 12: in my life. I I really tried to figure things out,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 12: slow down, figure out what's important and what isn't important.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 12: I spent the whole winter in the house for four
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 12: months just going out twice for doctor's appointments. And you
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 12: have a lot of time to think and think about
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 12: what was important. And, yeah, you know, I used to
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 12: teach aerobics classes for 35 years. Yeah, maybe that's not
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 12: going to be happening now. Maybe this, that. But I
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 12: have a good friend whose son... struggling with alcoholism.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: Hold that thought. Hold that thought for a second. I'll
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: come back, finish up my conversation with her, take more
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: of your calls. Interesting woman straight ahead right here. I
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: just want to go back to this woman because you
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: said something. There's nothing good about being, for lack of
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: a better term, trapped in your house for four months
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: during winter. That's just got to drive you out of
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: your gourd to a large extent. Well, you know, I..
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 12: I took one little project at a time. I rearranged
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 12: and organized the bookcase. I would take a drawer and
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 12: organize that. I would just, you know, do one little thing.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 12: And here's the important part. I read it online and
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 12: it was true. Have one significant 10-minute phone call every day.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 12: And even if it's a friend, a neighbor checks up
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 12: on you, even if you have to call... One 10-minute
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 12: significant phone call makes a huge difference. Even when my
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 12: ex called, I said, guess what? You're my one 10-minute
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 12: phone call today. Because, yeah, you could go days. And
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 12: I had a great, I will say I had a
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 12: great therapist who came to the house. And that certainly
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 12: helped a lot.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is a game changer. Like I just
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: mentioned to people in the past, I have two older
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: brothers now. both of them live in Florida and, uh,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: and they would, uh, they would say, uh, constantly, you know,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: say they're older than me. I mean, my, my one
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: brother would now be, uh, they've been there for years.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: My one brother would be, uh, 78. My other brother
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: would be 71. And, uh, but, uh, they, you know,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: obviously we grew up in Ohio and they moved to
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: Florida and they moved there because of a year round sunshine.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: And they, they, They got away from winter, you know,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: not when they were 30 years old, later in life,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: but still young enough. And they got away from winter.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: And they, you stay more active. Like they say, you
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: walk more, you have the sunshine more, you have, you
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: live life more. And so, and they swear you live
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: longer as a result of not being cooped up in
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: your house during winter time or putting up with the
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: snow and that kind of stuff. And so, And, uh, they, they, they,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: they swear by it. And I know when I go
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: down and visit my daughter and, uh, probably one of
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: the best times of my life was my daughter's wedding. And, uh,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: to go down to Florida with my, uh, me and
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: my wife and my son. And it was one of
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: the best times of my life ever. It was one
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: of the best, most enjoyable times that I, that I
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: enjoyed in my entire life was just that, uh, that
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: wedding and that my brother was there.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 12: And, uh, my son.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And it was just, it was just a relaxing,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: wonderful time. And I, and I tell you, I would
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: do it again tomorrow because it was, it was just
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: to say, it was such a joy. And, you know,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: I understood when I was there, why, why my brothers
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: are there. And, you know, I'm, I'm happy that my
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: daughter's down there. I mean, it's hot as hell right now,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: but needless to say, she loves it. And I think
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: I told you before many of the, Girls she went
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: to college with when she got out of YSU and
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: many of her colleagues, they say a handful of them
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: all moved to Florida. None of them have come back.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: They all got good jobs and and they all love it.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: And they just love the lifestyle and the atmosphere and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 15: So it's an important thing. Well, I probably stuck here
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 15: for a while, but that's okay.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: But think about it. I mean, you know, in the wintertime,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: maybe you go down and rent a place for three
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: or four months, and I think it will change your attitude.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: The sunshine, and I would go more to central Florida,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: get away from the coast, and I think you will
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoy it. uh, enjoy your life. You, as you
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: get older, I think you will enjoy it. You'll find
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: out why there's so many older people that go down there,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: but my brothers swear by it. And they say, that's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: why you'll see a lot of older, healthier people in
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Florida because they're, they're doing stuff. They're not trapped in
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: their house in winter time. And there's some truth to that.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 12: I helped my daughter with a garage sale this weekend.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 12: It's like a little family event. Of course, we had
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 12: gorgeous weather. She lives in Pennsylvania, and we all just
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 12: kind of sat around in lawn chairs, and her dad
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 12: was there, and one of her good friends, when she
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 12: was a kid that I know, and I mean, just
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 12: sitting out in the sun, you know, just hanging out
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 12: with people. It was It was pretty fantastic.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: The simplest things in life that don't cost very much
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: money are some of the most enjoyable things in life.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: And whether that's enjoying a beautiful day, taking a walk,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: having a great lunch, some of the things in life,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: they're not very expensive, but they make for some of
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: life's most special moments. Like I said, to be at
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: my daughter's wedding with my family was just a wonderful
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: time for not just then, but the days after that.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: was absolutely wonderful. It's the things that you come to
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: appreciate as you get older, those special moments. Hey, I
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: hope I was your significant 10-minute phone call today.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I know.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 10: You certainly were.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 8: Stay in.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 12: You have a wonderful day.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it. A lot of words of
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: wisdom out there from some of these folks today. It's
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: an enjoyable Tuesday afternoon. We're here until 7 tonight. 7 o'clock,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: the pregame. 7.30 is the first pitch. I think the
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: Guardians take on the Chicago White Sox. Callers online, stand by.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: Back with you right after this.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKVN. Back to it.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: What an enjoyable Tuesday afternoon. News Radio 570 WKVN. Ron
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning. Beautiful day. 71 degrees
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: on a June 23rd. We're here tonight until 7 o'clock.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: And just talking about a number of different things. Which
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: makes it enjoyable for a change. You're on the air.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 11: Hey, Ron.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 7: Does Diamond Dave still call?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 15: I haven't listened for quite a while.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, he does. Are you talking Bubba Ganoush?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 11: Okay, no name.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: His brother died, didn't they?
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 15: They were in the bar downtown, Youngstown, didn't they?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. His mother did, but I don't know
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: if he passed or not.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 15: I think his brother died, but I was just curious
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 15: if he was still peddling cocaine on the side.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, he's not. Hello, you're on the air. Good Lord. Hello.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: Hey, Ron.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 17: Hi.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: Hi.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 11: I'm calling from League City, Texas, and I've got to
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 11: tell you something. I listen to your radio periodically, and
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 11: you have a commercial about Avalon.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 11: Can I give him a plug?
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: The pizza.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 11: I was just up there last week. My brother and
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 11: I were celebrating our 80th birthday.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: 80 years old.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 11: 80 years old. Yeah. Well, we'll be 80 years old
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 11: in December. And I told him, he says, you want
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 11: to have a birthday party? I says, yeah, we'll do that.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 11: He said, well, I don't want to go up there
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 11: in December. It's too cold. I says, well, I don't either.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 11: Cause I live in Texas and he lives in Florida.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 11: But anyways, uh, They wanted to go out for pizza,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 11: and my one brother said, well, Avalon's good. I said, yeah,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 11: Ron Verbo always.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 7: Talks about it.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 11: I'm going to tell you something. That was the best
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 11: pizza I've had in a long, long time. We had
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 11: the eight-inch pizza, the Briar Hill, the egg, and the margarita.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 15: You can't go wrong if.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 11: You walk into that place and order a pizza. Fantastic.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: Really.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: So you enjoyed it. See, I'm glad that you finally
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: got to experience it. You thought I would steer you
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: wrong on something like that? Absolutely not. Avalon downtown, I'll
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: give you the history. I was turned on to the
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: Avalon pizza back when it was on Belmont Avenue in Youngstown.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: And so we would do a remote broadcast. We started
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: doing a remote broadcast back then. We would do them
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: on location at Avalon. And I was paired up with
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Casey Malone at the time. And Casey Malone introduced me
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: to the Avalon pizza. Cause when we went out to
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: do the remote, she said, you got to try this pizza.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: And she knew Al and she knew the guy that
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: made him back there. And once I had it, I said,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: that is unbelievable. It's focaccia crust. And I said, never
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: had a pizza like that anywhere ever before, ever before.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: And then I was hooked on, on the pizza. Then,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: I think Al sold the place or it closed down,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: and then the people that have Avalon downtown bought a
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: location there and brought the pizza back.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 11: Well, I'll tell you what, you can't go wrong.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 16: I would tell everybody in Youngstown, that's a great place.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 11: Of course, that's my opinion.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 16: That's for what it's worth, the apartment.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: I really loved it.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: Well, you're 80 years old. You should probably know what's
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: good by now.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 11: I would think so.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: I would certainly hope so. Go ahead.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 11: I was just listening to that one lady talk about
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 11: nursing homes, and I've got to say this. A friend
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 11: of mine just passed away in a nursing home, and
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 11: they had him drugged. He was 90 years old. But
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 11: they had him drugged up because they say he's a
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 11: little combative. I'm going combative. I said, the guy can't
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 11: get out of his recliner. He watches TV all day.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 11: He can't walk. They have to take him from the bed,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 11: put him in the recliner, from the recliner into the bed.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 11: But one thing I learned a long time ago, when
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 11: you go into a hospital, or you go into a
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 11: nursing home, please have somebody as an advocate for you.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 11: A relative, a friend, somebody who can watch what they're
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 11: doing and can ask questions. My mother wound up in one,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 11: I'm not going to mention the hospital, she wound up
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 11: in one of the hospitals in Warren. And my sister's
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 11: a nurse. And they were giving her this bottle, you
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 11: know how they do, they put the bottle on the
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 11: stand and all that. And, uh, as intravenous and my
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 11: sister said, wait a minute, whoa, whoa, what is that stuff?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 11: And she looked it up on the chart. She goes,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 11: that's the wrong stuff. So I'm thinking, oh my goodness,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 11: you know, and they did the same thing with my
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 11: friend down here. Not the same thing, but they, you
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 11: have to do, you have to have an advocate, I
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 11: guess is what I'm talking about. Have somebody that you
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 11: can trust, could ask some questions and see what's going on.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 11: Because I went there, he died about three weeks ago and, uh,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 11: He was a mess, but he's a heck of a
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 11: nice fellow, but that doesn't count for anything. Just have
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 11: an advocate.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah, you do in many cases.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: I think you're– believe me, even when you're in a hospital,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: you know, I guess I'm blessed because I'm married to
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: a registered nurse who's smart. And you need somebody that
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: knows what's going on and can advocate for you because
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: in many cases– you don't get very good care.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 11: True story. True story.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's something you got to consider. As you say,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: when you get there, there are people in nursing homes
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: like she was talking about that would be there and
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: they would never have any visitors at all. I mean,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: they would be in this nursing home. Their kids lived
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: out of town and it's like their mother and father
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: were just forgotten. They were just there and no one
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: would ever visit them. It was very, sad.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 11: When my mother wound up in a nursing home, I
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 11: felt very sorry for those people. You could put your
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 11: hand in front of their face. They had no idea
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 11: who was there or what was going on.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: Because they were just doped up or what?
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 8: I think they were all doped up.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it was a mess.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 11: You're paying $ 6, 000, $ 7, 000 a month.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or more.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 14: Or more.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: And they don't have very good care at all.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 11: No, no. It's a shame. I think it's a shame.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 11: I asked the owner I get, I tell my twin brother,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 11: I said, hey, you ever get the feeling that you're
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 11: just a number when you walk in? He goes, yeah,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 11: all the time. I said, I know these doctors see
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 11: a lot of people, but, you know, they're I kind
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 11: of get the impression, you know, as old as I am,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 11: maybe they figure, well, he's on his way out. I
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 11: do have a lot of health issues, but nothing yet
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 11: that I can't handle. But, hey, it's the way it is.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: It's life.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: It is. And you hope that it continues to go
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: well for you, my friend, right?
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 7: Yes. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what matters most. All right, appreciate it.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your call. NewsRadio 570, Dodie Kivian. Words
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: of wisdom by a lot of folks today. 541 is
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: talking about pizza and that kind of stuff. I see
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: where Pizza Hut, it's a 68-year-old chain that has long
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: struggled with growing competition and outdated restaurants, will be sold
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: for $ 2. 7 billion by the parent company Yum Brands. Yum
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: Brands said Tuesday, that the private equity firm, so there,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: that says it all, folks. Just listen to what I said.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: So you got Pizza Hut that's going to be bought
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: by a private equity firm. Does a private equity firm
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: ever make anything better? I ask you that. When a
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: private equity firm buys something, do they ever make it better,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: or do they just make it more expensive? They're going
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: to buy Pizza Hut, excluding the mainland China business, for
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: $ 1. 5 billion.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: $ 1.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 7: 5 billion.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: In China, Pizza Hut will be purchased by Yum China
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Holdings for $ 1. 2 billion. The company said China is Pizza
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: Hut's second largest market outside the U.S. Yum Brands, which
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: also owns KFC and Taco Bell, began to explore its
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: options for Pizza Hut in November. Last year, Yum Brands'
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: global sales rose 5%, but Pizza Hut's sales fell 2%.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: In February, Yum! Brands announced plans to close 250 U.S.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: Pizza Hut locations. Pizza Hut had 19,974 restaurants worldwide at
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: the end of last year. Pizza Hut has long been
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: the weak link in Yum! 's portfolio. Neil Sanders, Managing
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Director of Global Data, wrote Tuesday, Despite efforts to revitalize
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: the brand and shut underperforming locations, it has become Increasingly
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: clear that pushing the division back into growth will require
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: a level of investment and patience that Yum is just
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: not prepared to commit to. The chain has been pinched
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: in recent years by the growth of DoorDash, Uber, Eats,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: and other restaurant delivery companies which marketed across to a
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: slew of cuisines besides pizza.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 7: U.S.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: Pizza sales have slowed considerably since the pandemic. growing less
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: than 1% in 2024 and falling less than 1% in 2025.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: But Pizza Hut's performance was worse than average, with U.S.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: sales down 8.2% last year. By selling Pizza Hut, Yum!
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: Brands can focus more on its brands with stronger sales.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: I guess that would be KFC and Taco Bell. So
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: there you go. Pizza Hut being bought out in America
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: by a private equity firm. Here's my prediction. They'll start
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: charging you more. What do private equity firms usually do?
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: We'll see. I mean, a lot of times you get worried,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: will they skimp on the ingredients or change the ingredients
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: and then raise the price? Because it's all about money
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: in many cases. It's all about how can we squeeze
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: more money out of everybody? And that's That's unfortunate. Pizza
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: Hut's decent pizza, but we've got so much great local
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: pizza around here. Why would you want Pizza Hut's? Although
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: they've got a great buffet, an all-you-can-eat buffet. I mentioned
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: and warned earlier the two county commissioners pushing to place
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: on this week's agenda a resolution to provide a 2.5%
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: tax credit to owner-occupant homeowners. to provide tax relief. There
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: is concern from the residents, school superintendents, and trustees. Rick Hernandez,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Troubled County Minister, said the schools may not like this
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: and the trustees may not like this, but they are
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: a small chunk of what the homestead would have been.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: Tony Bernard, the other commissioner, said the board was waiting
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: to make a decision until they saw if the group
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: was seeking to get the property tax referendum on the
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: November ballot was successful. It did not collect enough signatures,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: and so it's got to wait until 2027. We need
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: to give the residents of Trumbull County tax relief. Tony
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: Bernard said, especially in August, we're going to have reappraisals.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: Our senior citizens and veterans all need a tax break.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: Isn't that the truth? I mean, isn't that a statement
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: that's 100% true? So it looks like Trumbull County is
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: going to be doing something when it comes to giving
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: you some property tax relief, which is kind of cool.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier about Schwebel's closing. I didn't focus enough
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: on it today. I mean, it would be nice to
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: hear from people who work there or people who can
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: offer some insight. And of course, you know, you get
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: the insight where they say they just didn't, the equipment
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: was old. It's just hard to imagine something around for
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: 120 years, not being around anymore. And let's see, they
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: said the companies, they can't even find a buyer for it, basically.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: They couldn't find a path forward. So what do they
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: say in this article? I thought it was interesting. They said,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: we worked with our advisors for several months to identify
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: a buyer investment source. However, despite significant efforts to adopt
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: to changing market conditions, In secure additional investments, the company
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: was unable to establish a path forward. What do they
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: say here? Schwebel said it has faced significant operational and
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: financial constraints for many years. The company said these challenges
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: include aging manufacturing facilities and equipment, costly labor contracts, and
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: pension obligations, and consumer trends depressing demand for traditional bakery
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: and bread products. So they're trying to say, okay, we've
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: got aging facilities, aging equipment, bad labor contracts, and pension obligations.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: We can't stay in business after 120 years. That's kind
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: of sad, isn't it? You're on the air.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 7: Hello, Ron, how are you?
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: I am well, thank you for asking.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 7: Good. We were talking about nursing homes. Unless, and I
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 7: know one, my mother-in-law was in there. She died in 2020.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 7: Unless you go in there every day, these people don't
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 7: get any help. You have to have an advocate. My
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 7: wife went in there every day. It's the only way
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 7: she got good help, or good health. Good service, I
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 7: should say. And don't you think it's terrible? We're making
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 7: millionaires out of these owners of these places.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 7: And yet you're driving the people, the patients, into bankruptcy
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 7: because of all of the high cost of this stuff.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 7: As much as $ 10, 000 a month. That's pretty average standard anymore.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: Isn't that something?
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: It is. I don't know. I don't think it's right to...
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 7: And they're all millionaires, and yet you make paupers out
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 7: of the patients.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I said that earlier. It seems to
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: me they don't have enough staff to begin with, and
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: they're grossly underpaid, and it's an emotionally draining job.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 10: Oh, it is.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 7: It's terrible. I wouldn't want the job.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 7: They don't pay them enough. Oh, and talk about Schwebel's.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 7: It's an interesting story about Schwebel's. The lady who was
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 7: one of the founders of Schwebel's was a lady by
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 7: the name of Dora Schwebel. And she actually taught Rose
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 7: Kravitz how to make bagels. That's how Kravitz Deli got
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 7: in the business.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: I had no idea. It's really sad, though, that it's
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: not going to be around.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 7: That factory, the bakery on Midlothian Boulevard was built in 1951.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 7: You've got to keep up with this stuff.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: Was built in what, 1961?
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 4: 1951.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, 51? Well, you have to keep up with the..
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's 75 years old already.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sure that they've repaired the building over
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: the years, wouldn't you think?
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 7: I would hope that they would keep up with all
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 7: of the ovens and all the equipment. But who knows?
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 7: I don't know. Maybe they wanted to tap it dry
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 7: like they did with the steel mills. You weren't around
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 7: when the mills were here, but they drained the steel
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 7: mills and And they shut them all down.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there was another case where they didn't update
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: them as time went on. But, I mean, wouldn't that
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: be a management problem? I mean, shouldn't over the years
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: Schwebel's have said, oh, we better update our equipment or
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: update our facility?
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 7: I would think, yeah.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: You would think, but I don't know. I mean, it's
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: sad to a lot of people around here because it's
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: a large part of everybody's life as far as their
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: bread is concerned.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 7: And they also have a bakery in Columbus, Ohio.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 7: In Licking County, which is a little east of Columbus.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was the shocking story of
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: last week, quite frankly, that Schwebel's was closing. I don't
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: think anybody ever anticipated it.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 7: Almost as bad as Black Monday back in the 70s
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 7: when Sheet and Tube shut down.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just an iconic brand.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 7: Not that bad, but it is an iconic brand.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 7: The time Swables used to have a clown on there.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: Yep. Thank you, my friend. Today.
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  Speaker 18: Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Laid back Tuesday afternoon, 555. Ron Verp from the Kingdom
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: of Mahoning. Glad you tuned in here on June 23rd,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: 73 degrees. Picture-perfect day here in our neck of the woods.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 10: Ronnie!
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 14: Vince!
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 10: What a beautiful day, Ronnie. I'll take these days all
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 10: the way up until January.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: All right. I mean, it is a perfect day. Perfect day.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 8: Perfect.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 14: Not too cold. You don't even have to turn the
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 14: air on.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 10: Nice driving with the windows down a little bit. I
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 10: put them up in courtesy to your show, Ronnie.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 6: I want the wind to intercept.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 10: In there my thoughtful sayings that I'm going to give
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 10: to you today.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, your words of wisdom.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 8: I agree.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 7: I agree. Words of wisdom.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 10: This is like our good friend Gino that was just gone. Yeah, I, too,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 10: thought that, you know, Swables was in trouble for not
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 10: updating years ago. And, you know, I don't know if
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 10: you— I know you've never been there, but at the Swables
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  Speaker 10: thrift store right across the street from here, I knew
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 10: something was wrong when they're— Apple, cherry, whatever pies, the
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 10: little hostess pies we used to call them, that we
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 10: used to get for a quarter, that are a buck
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 10: and a half. Something wasn't right. You know, something wasn't right.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 10: I know the cost went up and everything, but not
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 10: that much. They made them tons, but... I think the
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 10: one guy said there was almost as many people that
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 10: were retired that was working there. And that's not a
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 10: good go. You know that, Ron, for being around and
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 10: hearing all these other tales of woe at Lordstown, Packard, whatever.
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  Speaker 10: You know, they didn't give up the equipment, this and that. No,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 10: the equipment was up-to-date.
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  Speaker 3: It is shipped into Mexico.
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  Speaker 10: And that was the McIllidores.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: And the NAFTA.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 10: That little guy from Texas was right.
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  Speaker 6: And they said that NAFTA was going to mean.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 10: The end of the middle class.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: In your lifetime.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: In your lifetime.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 10: In my lifetime, too. The other thing, too, stick from
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 10: Dayton called in yet. Please, Dick, do us a favor.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 10: Don't say anything about the Indians. Please, you know, they're
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 10: in a little slump. They're going to get out of
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 10: their time for first place. So, you know, don't say that.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 10: Every team you pull for, Dick, went down the deuce. So, Dick, Dick,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 10: a word of wise to Dick from Dayton.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Dick, and maybe just for your friend from Warren, Emmanuel,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 10: stick to stuff that you know. Stick to stuff that
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 10: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Play him the banjo.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be putting the Dick from Dayton jinx on
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: the Guardians.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right, you got it.
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  Speaker 14: All right, good luck to you, Ronnie.
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• 2:03:12
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  Speaker 17: From ABC News, I'm Wayne Cabot. A rare rebuke for
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 17: President Trump from the Republican-controlled Senate, voting for the first
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 17: time to deny him war powers in Iran. The resolution
• 2:03:38
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• 2:03:45
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  Speaker 17: for U.S. farmers, because Iran can do as it wishes
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  Speaker 9: Agricultural products their benefits are up front we are on
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• 2:04:06
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• 2:04:24
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• 2:04:31
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  Speaker 25: He has no known connections to any of the victims
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• 2:04:52
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• 2:05:04
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• 2:05:08
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• 2:05:12
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• 2:05:16
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  Speaker 18: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: be here until 7 tonight. Guardians are playing the White
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: Sox in Chicago. So, needless to say, the pregame starts
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: tonight at 7 o'clock. First pitch around 7.40 tonight on
• 2:05:54
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• 2:06:01
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• 2:06:04
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• 2:06:08
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• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: on the broadcast probably around 5 o'clock tomorrow or so
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: until 7 o'clock tomorrow night. So keep that in mind.
• 2:06:19
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• 2:06:23
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Ron. I retired from Schwebel's. And I know probably
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: about four years ago, and I kept in touch with
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of people. In fact, I just talked to
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: a couple of shop stewards a couple weeks ago. And
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: the full-time employees down there, they're not surprised that this
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: is going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Explain it to me. Good. I'm so happy you called
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: so I can get some insight here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what happened is, number one, I had 18 years
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 3: in a Wonder Bread at a depot at the end
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: of Mahoning Avenue, and they decided to break the union
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: and shut it down. A man named Cooper was..
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: Now, that was a Wonder Bread building that's... I know
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: right where you mean, that big building on Mahoning Avenue,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: almost prior to coming into Youngstown, right?
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we loaded the trucks and everything. Some of us
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: would come down there. 18 years, I got in there,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 3: and then they..
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: Did they make bread there?
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  Speaker 3: They stopped making bread there in 73. All we did,
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: we got it shipped in from Akron and Toledo and
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 3: Indiana and all kind of places.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: But they initially made bread at that facility.
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  Speaker 3: Most definitely. They made the buns and everything for McDonald's
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: at the time. Oh, yeah.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: And then it just become a distribution hub.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. So when they closed that up, and
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 3: I only had 18 years, I knew a shop. I
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 3: was fortunate enough to get in his way.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: Well, pause a second. Why did they close that up?
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  Speaker 3: Wonder Bread?
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to break the union.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is it still in business? or not? I
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: don't even know.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 3: Wonder Bread?
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one year later. They have to wait one year
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: and then everything's back in business. And Limbaugh picked up
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of it and they're all union, so it
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 3: didn't make sense. None of us got our severance pay
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: because they were in bankruptcy. They ruled against it. All
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 3: the supervisors got their severance pay. but not the thousands
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: upon thousands of regular workers, which doesn't surprise you, right, Ron?
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, with this Cooper, well, he was the CEO
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: down there when it closed up. A year later, Schwebel's
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: hires this nut.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: Well, don't name call me. So they hired him.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 3: They hired this guy. I don't understand it. But once
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: the family sold out, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: Then did you go to work at Schwebel's, too, or not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was off one week, Ron, and an agent
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: up at the union got me into Schwebel's, and I
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 3: finished my time there to retire.
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  Speaker 17: All right.
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  Speaker 2: How old were you when you retired then?
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  Speaker 5: 67.
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  Speaker 3: All right, when you retired there.
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  Speaker 2: And that was, what was that, Teamsters?
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 3: No, Cleveland Bakers and Local 19 in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 10: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, just help me out as I go along here.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a decent-paying job? I mean, was it a?
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: good job over the years with Wonder and then with
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: Schwebel's because it was a union job, I would assume.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yes and no, because the older tier people that
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: had time in there were on a higher tier wage,
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: whereas the other people coming in after 1995 or, I
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 3: don't know, 2000, they were on the lower tier wage. So, yeah,
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 3: you know, and the retirement's less for me than it
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 3: was for the guys that had the big time. So
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: it was like a two-tier wage system, but it paid decent,
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: you know, when I left there. When I left the
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: Wonder Bread, I don't know, I think I was up
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 3: to close to $ 18 an hour or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Then you go over to Schwebel, and, of course, you
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 3: start out at $ 14, $ 15, but you work your way up.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: But the writing was on the wall. See, the family
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: sold it. corporation and everything like that they got a
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 3: lot of code with money to run a bit a
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: lot of people don't realize that they got a lot
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 3: of covert release will release money did very little to
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 3: the inside of the silly they fixed up the offices
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: and everything in the front they did put a new
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 3: brook bread cooler and they put no they put no
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: new ovens and big data it's all the same equipment
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 3: the trucks were breaking down and everything like that they
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: could have They could have, head-to-head with bimbo, nickels, and
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: all that. They could have if they would have ran
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 3: it right, because that bakery put out a lot of bread.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, hell yeah.
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  Speaker 3: First, they shut the Cuyahoga Falls plant down. That made
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 3: all the Schwebel's giant bread run. Then about a couple
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 3: years after that, they shut.
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  Speaker 2: The other plant down. Okay, don't go so fast, because
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: I've got to take all of this in. So there
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: was a plant, and where was the other plant?
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: They had four plants, Cuyahoga Falls.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: And they closed that down.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 3: They closed that down. That made all the giant wonder.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: Why did they close that down?
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 3: Ron, I don't know.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. In fact, it was in the old
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 3: Kroger building up there. They shut it down. They figured
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 3: the other three bakeries could do it. So then after that,
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 3: a couple few years after that, maybe many years, they
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: had a plant in Solon which made the giant Schwebel's bread. Well,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: they had so many problems with that facility, they broke
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: down so much that we always had to bake it
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: down in Youngstown. So I guess they said, heck with it, Ron,
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 3: and they closed the Solon plant. So all that left
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: was the Youngstown plant to take up all the bread,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 3: and the Columbus plant only does the buns.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, so at the plant on Midlothian, that doesn't do buns,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: that just does bread?
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 3: No, they do buns, too. No, no, they do buns, too.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: All right. And do they make all the different, like,
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: you know, the honey wheat and all that at the
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: facility on Midlothian?
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: The bread?
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the only ones that was left to make
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 3: the bread. Yeah, they took all the giant, the honey wheat,
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 3: you know, all of it, and they were just making
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: it down there in Youngstown, the only facility.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: All right. So you were there and making... the bread there,
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: and do you need to update the equipment? I mean,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: obviously the equipment's working because they go to the store
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: and the bread's still there.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 3: Well, most definitely you have to update the equipment. The
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: ovens were sold, and they had so many maintenance problems.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: They always had the mixers were always breaking down. The
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 3: bread cooler was always breaking down, and they did put
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 3: the new bread coolers in, but they did very little
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: to the mixers and And the proof boxes and all
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 3: these things. It was just crazy. And their rye bread,
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: this is what people are going to miss the most
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: down there. They made the best rye bread in the world. Now,
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 3: here's what I know. They supplied the Cleveland Guardians, well,
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 3: and the Indians, too, with the buns up in Cleveland.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: They supplied Burger King at one time. They supplied Giant Eagle. Now,
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 3: my shop steward I talked to said they... got wind
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: that today i'm trying to go for a very long
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: time they got when the giant eagle might break off
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: with them and go to somebody else so that's one
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: of the things that i heard and the last book
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 3: of the swables man to go with paul swables and
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 3: then it was all corporate greed i guess they got
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 3: millions of dollars from the covert relief fund and it
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: just uh... they didn't do nothing with it and then
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: pittsburgh you got you know you got bimbo you got
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 3: a super bakery down there don't get me wrong if
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 3: swables played their cards right now somebody know what they're
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 3: doing down there they could compete it with them both
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 3: now when i was at wonder bread and schwebel's all
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: i heard ron all i heard was nickels gonna shut
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 3: down nickels is as good as shutting down no that's
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 3: false nickels is going good wonder bread shut down schwebel
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 3: shut down it's it's it's it's really it's really a
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: shame because you got a lot of people down there
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 3: that are just missing their they need maybe five years
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 3: they need maybe six years four years to retire you
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: know what do you get you know if you go
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 3: to cleveland work bimbos their union if nichols will pick
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: up again you're not only talking about the workers inside
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: you're talking about the truck drivers uh... kinkster is the
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 3: semi truck drivers losing their jobs too so it's uh...
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: you know it's a shame i mean it i don't
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: know it's just a shame i mean i talked to
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 3: a couple guys down there and they said this ain't
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: no surprise.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: Really so what is this so One of my callers said,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if you would know or not,
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: they said they had as many guys on pensions as
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: they had working, or more guys on pensions than were
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: working or something.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know about that. I mean, what
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: does that mean, Ron?
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: You've got 300 workers in Youngstown, so, you know, you
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 3: get the time, you retire. I mean, you know, the
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: thing about..
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: I was just reading, though, in the paper where they're
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 2: saying the reason for their closing had to do with
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: union contracts, the pension obligations. and outdated equipment. But you basically,
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: you're saying, but wait a minute, those are all management things.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: You're basically saying, well, you got all this money during COVID.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you use that when you didn't have to
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: pay your employees and you were getting the money from
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: the government? Why didn't you update the equipment then?
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: That's what you're asking.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: What I'm hearing, they got a good pretty millions of
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: dollars from the COVID refund, but I guess a lot
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: of people... You know, I mean, the company just didn't
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: do it. As far as the wages and that goes,
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 3: I told you the other people had to hire at
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: your wage. We used to have our meetings and, okay, well,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: we're going to give you 40 cents more an hour
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 3: for the next three years or something like that. We
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: never got no big raises or anything like that. And
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 3: then when they couldn't find no people to work because
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 3: they had a hard time finding people to work, A
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: lot of the guys that ran the bread wrappers and
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 3: all that, they upped their wages up to $ 20, $ 22
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 3: an hour just to keep them there. And then there's
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: some people, there were some people there, my friends found out,
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 3: they said, well, I'm going to try to find something else. And,
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: you know, some got out of it. But like I said, Ron,
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: you've got a lot of them that are just going
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: to miss their pension and everything by a couple years
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 3: if they don't get a job where the Baker's Union,
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: and don't get me wrong, the local 19 Baker's Union
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: in Cleveland, they have a lot of companies. In that union,
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 3: we're talking grain millers, tobacco, bakeries, and everything. And I
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 3: hope Nickel picks up some and everything like that. But
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 3: it could have been avoided. It's a shame that this
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 3: had to happen. I don't know. It's crazy.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's got to be interesting, though, to see.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it had to be kind of interesting to
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: make all that different bread.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: I was, oh, Ron, when I first started down there
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: after Wonder Bread Night, I just walked around that place. And,
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 3: you know, that's an old bakery in Youngstown. It was
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: just amazing to me how they did that, that big
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: glob of dough coming out. Then it goes, gets proof.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 3: Then that little roll goes in the pan. Then it's
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: coming around. They're just hundreds of them over and over.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 3: It was really amazing. And the rye bread was, they
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: sold their rye bread directly at Kravitz, Cleveland. Their rye
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 3: bread is Jewish rye and all their rye bread. People
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 3: loved Schwebel's rye bread. It was the best. Now it's
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: going to be gone.
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine, isn't it?
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, very hard. Yes.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and it's like that building's been
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: there forever. You could always smell the bread when you'd
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: be anywhere near it when they were making it.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly right.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 2: And you getting people, I'm sure, why was it difficult
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 2: to get people or keep people? I mean, it seemed
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: like it was a decent paying job.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 3: It was a decent paying job. I don't know the
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: reason for that. In fact, the shop steward told me,
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 3: he goes, and he wasn't kidding around, he said, they
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: get a lot of this part-time help and stuff like
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 3: that And he said to me, he said, listen, he says,
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I could say this. If ICE
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: comes down there, he says, I don't think they could
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 3: keep the building going. They had to have an interpreter
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: down there, two interpreters to help them work and help
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 3: them to know what they were doing. But they were
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 3: all part-timers there. I feel bad for the full-time ones
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 3: that are going to miss it by a little bit
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: and not getting their pension.
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I read on the air earlier today where there's
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: a baking company that's called Orlando.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: Orlando's big in Cleveland, yes.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in Cleveland it has offered any of the people
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: down here jobs.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, I heard that, too. I'm hoping between Nichols, Orlando's,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 3: even Bimbo. I mean, Bimbo's got their bakery in Pittsburgh,
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: and they come... I don't know how far. I think
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: they come just into the neck of Ohio.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 6: The line.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I sure hope they get something,
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: because I really feel bad. You know, I was fortunate.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 3: I really feel bad. I have a lot of friends
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 3: down there who still do.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 2: Now, who makes... Who do you think will fill that
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: void in the grocery shelf? Nichols is out of Canton,
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: isn't it, to that area?
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 3: Canton or Norwalk or something like that.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: Somewhere down there, yeah. So do you think they will
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 2: be the ones that will fill the void that Schwebel's
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: will leave?
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: I think they will try. I think Bimbo's foaming at
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 3: the mouth, too, to get in there, too. I mean,
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: Schwebel's had a lot of customers out there.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That's why you sit back and you go
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: to the grocery store and you see that brand and
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: people have bought it for years. I mean, you're here
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: long enough to hear the, I guess, it was just,
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: how do I describe it? Hard to believe. I mean,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: people were kind of really set back by the announcement
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: that they were going to close up after 120 years.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, but like, yes, yes, sir. But like I said,
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: inside the plant, even when I was down there, all negativity,
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 3: all negative. I said, well, everything's going good now. Everything's,
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 3: you know, they're not upgrading. They're not putting no money
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: into a bing-bang booth. I don't know. But, yeah, you
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: didn't think anything like this. You think they would have
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 3: been there forever, really.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 3: Really, I don't. It's corporate greed or what I don't know.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: It's Then I heard a rumor that they lost the
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: Giant Eagle contract. Did you hear that?
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I talked to a shop steward just before this happened,
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 3: and he heard about it. And that's what he said.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: He said they heard that they were going to lose
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: Giant Eagle.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: Ron Verbe at 624 here tonight until 7 on a Tuesday,
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: June 23rd. Perfect evening out there, 73 degrees. Glad you
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: tuned in, and you're on the air.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 8: Is that you, Ron?
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 8: Hey, definitely the Schwebel, that's sad. Dora Schwebel was a
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 8: neighbor to my grandmother. Great family. That'll all come out
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 8: on that, you know, whatever went on there.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: Well, let's see there. She was the founder of it then?
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 8: She, at that time, because I'm about 20 years younger
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 8: than you, so... She was probably like family lineage. You know,
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 8: they were the Schwabels, you know what I mean?
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: But somewhere along the line, and they all ran it
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: for years, but apparently they weren't running it lately, so
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they'd.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 8: No, I don't know. I moved it, yeah. I don't
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 8: have any understanding on how... You know, Ron, it's sad.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 8: It's definitely sad. I mean, we had a shop up
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 8: in that area.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 6: My uncle..
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 8: Anytime you went up there, you smelled the bread. It
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 8: was just like such a..
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: You could smell it. Back then, our studios were at
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 2: 3930 Sunset with the TV station.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 8: Hey, you guys were on Simon Road? Were you up
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 8: on Simon Road there?
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. We were at WKBN building at 3930 Sunset.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: And so when you would walk out in that parking lot,
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: you could smell the Schwebel's bread all the way up
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: basically where the Shell station is. You could smell it
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: out in the parking lot just standing there. Now, obviously,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: we're down here on Tiffany Boulevard in Boardman now at
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: these studios, and there's no way you're going to smell
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: it down here. But, man, that had just a great
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 2: smell to it.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just..
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 8: It's iconic, you know. And I, you know, growing up,
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 8: you used to go to the skating rink. I think
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 8: they bought that. And they'd buy that, and, like, we're
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 8: starting to do bread in there.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: Is that what that building is? You would know. It
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: looks like it could have been an old skating rink.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a skating rink, you know, in the 90s.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 8: Used to, like, back then, you know.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 2: So that's the building they're on on Midlothian Boulevard.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, right next door to the bakery.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that that was a skating rink.
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 8: I think they ended up buying that. I think Shway
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 8: was bought that years ago.
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: It looks like it could have been a skating rink
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: just based on the design of it.
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 8: Hey, I got one other thing for you.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 8: Don't take it the wrong way now.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: I'll take it.
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 11: Avalon pizza.
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 2: I'm a sensitive man. I want you to know that.
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: I'm very sensitive.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 8: Ron, you and I both are.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 8: Avalon pizza. Yes. You got to always remember the original
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 8: Avalon pizza that you were with Gil Martin up on Belmont. Yes.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 8: That all originated. That was the bar, the Avalon.
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 8: When Nick Levaney closed, Levante Pizza, Smitty came over across
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 8: the street, started cooking pizza at the Ave.
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: Yep, Smitty was the man, yes.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, and he was there downtown with them, but when
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 8: you bring up the focaccia crust and all that, when
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 8: they were cooking pizza out of Belmont, the original Ave,
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 8: that was original, that was like, it was actually Levante.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 8: It was, you know, Smitty brought over Nick Levante, Nicolini,
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean?
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 8: He brought over that style pizza, and, you know, people
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 8: in the bar were loving it. Yes. So they weren't
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 8: doing focaccia at that time in the Belmont Avalon. Now,
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 8: how are the people that own it now?
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 2: I know..
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 8: The one owner definitely had something to do with the
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 8: Belmont one.
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Schmitty went to the, he left Belmont,
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: and then he went to the one downtown. He was downtown.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 8: Definitely, Schmitty was, until he passed recently, he was definitely
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 8: cooking for the downtown one.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: But the recipe of, stand by, let me do my headlines.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: I'll come right back to you, all right?
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 8: All right, thank you.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: I know what he's talking about, and I know the
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: people he's talking about. I'm on top of things for
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: a change. We'll come back. We're here tonight till 7.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: Ron Verb, NewsRadio 570.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 7: WKBN.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570. WKBN.
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 2: Good afternoon. 633 NewsRadio 570. WKBN. Ron Verb with you
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 2: till 7 tonight. Go back to my caller. Are you there?
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 15: Yes, sir.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: All right. So Smitty, I remember when I first met
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 2: him at Avalon on Belmont Avenue, and that's where But
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: they had the focaccia crust back then because it was
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: that same light, airy crust. And he made, I got
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: a Briar Hill at that time. Casey introduced me to
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: the Briar Hill sausage pizza. And you could sit there,
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: and I kid you not, the sausage was so good,
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: the crust was so good, you could eat a whole pizza.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't stop eating it. It's like addictive.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 8: Well, without a doubt. My father was a doctor, Ron,
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 8: so when Levante had it across the street, he used
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 8: to always buy the nurses. They'd do, like, night shift. He'd, like,
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 8: order 100 pizzas for St. E's, and Smitty was the dude, man.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 7: He was..
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 8: Guy just nailed it.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: Now, somebody told me... So you're saying that that's where
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: that pizza originated from?
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 4: Well, let's get.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 8: This correct, because I want... And people are going to
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 8: call in. They're probably hearing this. Levani's Pizza was across
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 8: the street. Then you had the Avalon. I'm not sure
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 8: who the owners were at the time. Could have been
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 8: the Sabella family. I'm not exactly sure who owned it.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 8: But when Levani closed and opened Nicolini's and went out
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 8: to Austintown, Smitty didn't want to go there, and they said,
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 8: let's bring an oven over and cook pizza.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and God, we were great at it.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 8: And that's when it was basically a tie-in cross. When
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 8: they shifted to Focaccia, I'm not exactly sure.
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 2: I thought the family that owns it now was kind
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 2: of the original owners of it, if you will.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 8: Well, that's something you'd have to dig into, Ron. Masulo
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 8: is the one that's downtown.
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 8: And then she's married to Michael Sabella. Somewhere along the line,
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 8: there's some connection to the Avalon there, but there was
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 8: a long time on Belmont Avenue where the Avalon... You
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 8: always want to remember Joey Marsco. You know who that is?
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 8: He owned Joey's Restaurant on Belmont.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 2: I was with you up until that point in time,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 2: but I will say this when you're talking. Have you
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: ever tried... Like, if you go to the... Nicolini's in
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: Austintown and get a Briar Hill pizza there. It's very good.
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 8: Nicolini's nails it. That's the family.
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 8: They've got the hidden recipe, Ron.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you ever go to that, the one
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: in Austintown, and have you ever seen how busy the
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: one is over by in Canfield? That place is slammed.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 8: Is that like the actual restaurant?
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 25: Yes.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 8: You're talking about the restaurant?
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 8: Yes. Such good. You know, Ron, not only we got
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 8: a great guy in you, I mean, just radio, lots
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 8: of big one with Dan when he left, but you're
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 8: such good pizza, such good, like the Youngstown Pizza guy,
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 8: you know who that is?
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I do not, but there is good pizza.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: When you talk, I mean, I tell you, I mean, Avalon's, Well, unique.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: You have Cornersburg, the original Cornersburg in Cornersburg.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 2: A great pizza. So if you go from Cornersburg, of course,
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: people love Wedgwood Pizza. People like Bruno Brothers. I mean,
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: these are all local pizza shops. So you got Bruno Brothers,
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 2: you got Wedgwood, you got Elmton, you got Avalon. What is... Oh,
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 2: I forget the name of it. Gia Angelos. You ever
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: have a pizza from Gia Angelos?
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 8: Oh, that is phenomenal. That is like so underspoken, Ron.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 8: Nobody even knows about that.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I do.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 8: Well, you need to tell your listeners.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's a restaurant on 224 by the..
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 2: Great pizza. If you get like a half a sheet.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 8: How about Red Plum? Have you had theirs yet?
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: No, I have not. I have not.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 8: I think they moved out to... I've had the one
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 8: in Howland, but I think they moved out to 224.
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 8: You should try it if you get a chance. It's
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 8: pretty good.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, one thing we got, I mean, we got
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of greats. I mean, we got a lot
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: of great pizza.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 8: Great food.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is. And I tell you, I miss
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 2: so much when you talk about food and missing stuff.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: Nicky Petrella and the pan-fried fish that he made at
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: the Boulevard, I.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 8: Was actually on Southern Boulevard yesterday, and I don't even
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 8: get it, Hal. You had the boulevard, and then you'd
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 8: roll right by the oven.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, the boulevard when Nick was alive,
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: and he died way too early.
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 8: Friday fish.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, that Friday fish was the best. I've never had
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: better fish ever than he had that pan-fried fish. what
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 2: was it, haddock, pan fried?
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 8: I think it was a cod or a haddock.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 8: They nailed it.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 2: It was great. And then the coleslaw was great. There's
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: another thing where I would look forward to Fridays. We
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: would do some remote. We do commercials on the Dan
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: Ryan Show, live commercials from down there. And I look
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: forward to every Friday being there and having that pan
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: fried fish and the coleslaw.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 8: Dan Ryan was great friends with George Shutrump, and that
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 8: was my boss when I got out of college. And
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 8: he gave me a job, and he would always take
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 8: me there on Friday. We got to have Friday fish.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, wasn't that great?
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 8: Dan was always there.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: It was fantastic, wasn't it? Oh, it was.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 8: You know, it's like that's not around anymore. It's so weird.
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, as you get older, the things change. that
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: you miss because a lot of these local restaurant guys,
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 2: they're all getting older and they want to retire at
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: some point. And it's just never, you know, never the same.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just, like I talk all the time,
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 2: you go to the fireplace, it's been consistent for 40
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: years for as long as I can remember. Where is
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: that now?
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  Speaker 8: Is that, because I used to go on South Avenue, right?
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: Right, on Western Reserve Road just prior to the roundabouts.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: But Tommy and Karen still own it. It's consistent recipes
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: for 40 years.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they got great food.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, in so many ways. I don't understand. The
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 2: one thing that I don't understand is, incidentally, I was
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: at Springfield Grill the other night, and it was excellent.
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 8: It's a good restaurant.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy Swenson's over here on Tiffany Boulevard. You know,
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: you drive up and sit in your car.
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  Speaker 5: Is that open?
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 8: You're talking about Swenson's?
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: Swenson's, yeah.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 8: How do you pronounce that?
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 5: Swenson's.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 8: How do you pronounce it?
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 2: Swenson's. And it's huge in Akron. It's absolutely huge. And
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 2: I was, like, thrilled when they decided to put one here.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 2: And this one doesn't do as– I mean, there's successes everywhere,
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: as I understand. Everywhere you go. And this one isn't
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: as successful as the rest of them. But I'm telling you,
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 2: if you haven't been to Swenson's to get, like, a
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: double cheeseburger, I don't know what they put in the meat,
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 2: but it's terrific. I mean, it's really– It's just a
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 2: different kind of hamburger. It's really good.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're in a bad location. They're trying to get
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 8: in and out.
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that used to be Nicolini's, if you remember.
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 2: Then they ripped that down and put in Swenson's.
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's not a bad location.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 8: You definitely nail it. I mean, not only do you
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 8: nail it on, like, food and that, but also what
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 8: you talk about. You bring in... A lot of like
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 8: what's going on in the real world where most people
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 8: don't live.
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the real world.
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, we're not going to get into that
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 8: right now. I hope Trump's got his head on straight here.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: Let's hope so.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 8: I've got to tell you, man, I've been listening to
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 8: you in and out because I've left the town and
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 8: I've come back. I've been listening to you for 30
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 8: plus years. I've got to tell you, man, you're really
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 8: something special, Miller. You're special to this city. And I
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 8: hope you, you know, stay the course. You know, sometimes
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 8: you might get up one morning and say, I don't
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 8: want to do it anymore. That'll be a loss to
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 8: the city, boy, if you leave.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 2: It'll happen because, you know, I'm not getting younger. I
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 2: never hide it when I tell people I'm 68 years old.
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 2: And I used to think I would retire when I was..
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 8: That's amazing.
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 11: You're 68.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to think..
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 8: 68 years young.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I've been thinking about retiring since I was 60.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 2: But it is what it is.
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 8: I'll tell you, Ron, I don't know if you can
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 8: do it or if Dan's even trying to do it,
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 8: but they need to... There's got to be somebody that
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 8: can come up and fill that void eventually.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: I'd like to do it. Unfortunately, the industry's not going
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 2: in that direction. It's like so many things that have changed.
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 8: You're talking about local radio?
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just radio in general because radio in general is
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 2: owned by large companies anymore. All these radio stations are.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: huge companies anymore and in many cases like you know
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 2: when we run sean hannity or when we run clay
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 2: and buck those programs are owned by iheart that's their
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: network and and they're very successful and they put them
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: on and they do quite well across the country local
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: talk shows are expensive to do and and you do
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: pretty good yeah well you know we did.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 8: Pretty good oh yeah You got to have the person
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 8: that is going to step in has to understand what
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 8: they want to talk about. They got to bring in
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 8: the audience. They got to, you know, you could talk
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 8: about everything. If it's going to be a local show,
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 8: you want to bring in local because, you know, Youngstown's
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 8: got a lot to offer.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: You're damn right it does. It's a terrific place. It
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: really is.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 8: Oh, that's why I moved back. Youngstown... And they got
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 8: this young mayor who's kind of green. He's going to
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 8: figure it out, I hope.
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 2: It seems like he's a step in the right direction
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 8: I think so. He's better than Tito.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 2: There you go. All right, my friend, thank you for
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 2: your call. I appreciate your time.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 8: Hey, Ron, I'll be talking to you. I'm going to
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 8: be calling back. I've got to tell you again one
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 8: more thing. I do really appreciate you. Your longevity is, like, unquestionable.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. I appreciate it.
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 8: You're a fantastic individual, Ron.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You as well. Thank you. You're on the air.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 4: Hey, Ron.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 14: How are you doing today?
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: Good, sir. Go ahead.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 8: I'll be quick.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 14: I retired from Schwebel back in 2022. I was in
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 14: route sales. And if you're interested, there's a couple of
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 14: things I'd like to tell you. First of all, the
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 14: rollercade was right next to Schwebel's. Schwebel's bought it, and
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 14: they turned half of it into HR offices, and the
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 14: rest was the mechanics garage. I don't know if you
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 14: were ever in a rollercade when it was a roller rink,
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 14: but when you went in there, up in the ceiling
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 14: was your DJ. Big glass window in the front. You
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 14: could see him spinning the record. I mean, that's still there.
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 6: That's still in that building.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 14: But yeah, that used to be the rollercade. The second
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 14: thing was back during COVID, when I worked there, there
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 14: was rumors going around that Troubles was closing up. Then
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 14: COVID hit, and they got a ton of money out
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 14: of that. And then we couldn't find anybody to work.
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 14: Nobody wanted to work, so they put a trailer out front,
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 14: and they had a sign on it, Hiring $ 2, 000 Signing Bonus.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 14: And they interviewed our vice president of sales on Channel 27,
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 14: and he said, you know, it's a shame that our
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 14: main competitor in finding employees is our own government. And
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 14: what he meant by that was, I would tell people,
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 14: go to Swables.
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 8: They're hiring.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 14: You know, $ 17, $ 18, $ 19.
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 8: Why should I do that, they'd say.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 14: The government's going to pay me $ 950 to sit on
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 14: the couch a week.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 7: A week.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 14: So they couldn't find anybody to hire.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 8: You know, there was just..
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 14: Everybody stayed home during COVID. Biden gave everybody all that money.
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 14: Nobody wanted to work. So they had a rough time
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 14: finding people. The other thing about that, too, was they'd have.
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 8: A hiring event.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 14: They'd get 30, 40 people, fill out your application, take
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 14: a small math test. Then they'd tell them, here, here's
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 14: your appointment for a drug test. They never came back.
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 2: Couldn't pass the drug test.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 14: They never went for the drug test because they knew
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 14: they weren't going to pass it. So, I mean, there
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 14: was a lot of things going on. I mean, you
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 14: had good things and you had bad things. But the
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 14: one thing I wanted to tell you, my grandmother and
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 14: grandfather came over here in 1899, 1900. They opened a
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 14: grocery store in Struthers. In 1908, Schwebel's opened up in 1906.
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 14: According to my uncle, my grandmother and grandfather were the
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 14: first ones to put Schwebel's Jewish rye on a retail
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 14: shelf because they went door to door. And all they
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 14: sold was the Jewish rye. That's all they baked was
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 14: Jewish rye. They went door-to-door with that. And then my
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 14: grandparents opened up their store, and they were the first
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 14: ones to put the bread on the shelf, retail, which
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 14: I thought was pretty interesting because I ended up working there.
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 14: And it was a good job.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 4: Believe me.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 14: Let me tell you, it was a good job. I
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 14: was in sales. I wasn't in a bakery. I was
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 14: in a bakery one time a long, long time ago.
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 14: But I ended up getting into sales.
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't drive the bread truck then, would you?
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 2: Or would you?
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 14: No, I was the bread guy. I would go into
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 14: the grocery stores and fill the shelves. I didn't drive
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 14: the semis. I had a box truck.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I meant, the trucks that I'm familiar with,
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 2: the box trucks.
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, you have the regular Schwebel trucks that
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 14: look like UPS trucks.
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 14: My route was bigger than most, so they ended up
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 14: giving me a box truck, 24-foot box truck. But, yeah,
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 14: I was a bread guy. I would go into the
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 14: nursing homes, and I'd go into the grocery stores. and
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 14: schools and little mom-and-pop grocery stores.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 4: It was a good job.
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 2: You had to love that job. You're out. You're going
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 2: to different places. You had to enjoy that. Was that
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: five days a week? Five days a week.
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 14: We were off on Wednesdays and Sundays. That was kind
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 14: of tough to get used to, but it ended up
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 14: okay on a Wednesday because you can make your appointments
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 14: on a Wednesday.
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 16: You can do everything.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 14: Go to places that aren't busy like a weekend would be. But, yeah,
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 14: I would go up there. I'd start at 4 o'clock.
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 14: I'd load my truck, and I'd be gone. I'd take
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 14: off at 5 o'clock, and I'm on my own. There
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 14: wasn't a supervisor hanging over me. There was nobody telling
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 14: you what to do, when to do it. You just
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 14: did your job because, you know what, we were paid commission.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 14: So you can dictate how much money you want to make.
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 14: If you wanted to make big bucks, then you could.
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 14: If you wanted to just skate, then you could do that, too.
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 14: And what I mean by, you know, you could go
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 14: on the Giant Eagle and say, hey, listen, I got
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 14: hot dog buns on sale. Can I have a display?
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 14: You put up a display, you start selling hot dog
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 14: buns off, and you start making more money. Some people
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 14: wouldn't do that. Some drivers didn't want to go through.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 14: But it was a good job. It was good people.
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 14: I'm upset that they're closing.
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 2: It's so damn sad. I'm going to fix their products.
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 4: But it is. It's sad.
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 14: It's really sad because, like everybody's saying, even on the news,
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 14: it was just a staple. It was a staple of
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 14: the community. And Joe Swable, who ran it until he
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 14: passed away, I mean, he was just one of the
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 14: nicest guys you'd ever want to meet. You know, they
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 14: would have company vans, little Dodge vans that they give
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 14: to the supervisors to drive and the accounts managers. And
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 14: after so many miles, they'd sell them. He would sell
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 14: them to the employees and just take $ 25 a week
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 14: out of their paycheck to pay for the van. You know,
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 14: it was a good family. It was a good job.
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 14: I'm glad I worked there and I'm glad I retired
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 14: from there.
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 2: God bless you, man. God bless you.
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. Thanks, Ron.
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Appreciate you. You're on the air.
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 6: Hey, how are you doing, Ron?
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 6: I spent 10 years in that place from.
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 7: 79 to 89.
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 4: And?
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 6: And it was a pain in the ass to work in.
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 6: It was hot. It was real hot. And the biggest,
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 6: probably a necessary evil was probably the union. They were
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 6: a pain in the butt to deal with. And we
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 6: never had any representation until two weeks after an incident,
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 6: and that did us no good. But guys that I
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 6: worked with who just retired probably maybe five years ago,
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 6: I had 10 years in, so I got a partial pension.
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 6: They were telling me they were having a lot of
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 6: turnover in help.
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 6: But when I was there, too, one of the problems
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 6: that they had was they were stuck in their ways
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 6: about the production. And they tried, and rightfully so, because
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 6: when people tell you about how well they like the bread,
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 6: you know, I tell them, well, that's sparkle bread, the
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 6: same bread. No, no, no.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 8: Yes, it is.
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 6: I worked almost every job inside the bakery. And we'd
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 6: be wrapping bread. We'd be wrapping giant eagle bread on
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 6: one machine. We'd be wrapping sparkle on another machine. We'd
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 6: be wrapping somebody else on another machine. But the one
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 6: thing about it is that they want to do..
• 2:43:09
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  Speaker 2: I was just looking at a picture of what used
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 2: to be The original rollercade there. So then that was
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 2: a maintenance division, I guess, for the trucks and that
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they worked on all the trucks back there. And
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 6: then they expanded the shipping dock. Great before I left,
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 6: they expanded the shipping dock. I don't know, doubled the
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 6: size of the shipping dock. I got hired in there
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 6: because of the Giant Eagle contract. They hired a whole
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 6: bunch of us that one summer. It was supposed to
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 6: be a summertime job for me. It ended up being
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 6: a 10-year summer. Well, I was going to school at YSU,
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 6: and I did get my degree while I was there.
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, Teamsters, good job. Good union job.
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the good thing about the Teamsters is
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 6: it was the fact that, you know, like the previous caller,
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 6: we got a pension. We would never add a pension
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 6: from the family if we had to deal.
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 2: With the family. They cite that as one of the
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 2: reasons why it's closed down, pension obligations.
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 6: That's one of the things. Well, their pension is running
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 6: pretty tight on what their obligations are, I can tell you,
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 6: because we get.
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 4: A report every year.
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 6: But there's two things that were going against the company
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 6: really bad. Number one was... The kids from the family
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 6: did not want the business.
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 2: That's the first problem.
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 6: That's because they had enough money that they didn't want
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 6: to be having to do it.
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 2: Once you lose a family, yeah.
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 6: The other problem was modernization. So Abel's, when I was there,
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 6: tried very desperately in order to be competitive. They tried
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 6: very desperately to come up with what we call liquid dough.
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 6: They mixed dough just like you'd mix it in your home.
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 6: big dough mixers and all stuff piped in each mixer.
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 6: But the problem was is they could never get the
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 6: flavor and taste that they wanted out of any texture
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 6: from liquid dough that the hand-mixed or machine-mixed dough would
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 6: come out. And that takes time because after they kicked
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 6: them out of the mixer, they'd have to sit on
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 6: the floor in a big block like that on wheels.
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 6: They had to sit on the floor for like an hour,
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 6: hour and a half, and then they dumped them back in,
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 6: mixed them again, depending on whether it was bread or buns.
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 6: But buns was right out of the mixer into the
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 6: machines to make the buns. The bread got wet through
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 6: the rollers, and it went through a big proof box.
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 6: It was about an hour through the proof box. And
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 6: that was like 120, 130 degrees in there, 100%.
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 2: Well, they got the taste down perfect, however they made it.
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, the best way to have a
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 6: bread dough, and I used to do it occasionally, would
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 6: be put it in a brown paper bag.
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 14: Take it home, unsliced.
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 4: It was just something, you know.
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 6: When we worked in the wrapping department, we used to
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  Speaker 6: get it right out of the cores. The cores were
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  Speaker 6: big conveyors above our heads. We'd get it out, and
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  Speaker 6: when the guys would grab a loaf, and we'd go
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  Speaker 6: around the corner, and the refrigerator would get half a
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  Speaker 6: pound of butter.
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  Speaker 2: All right. I've got to pause. I've got to try
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  Speaker 2: to get.
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  Speaker 4: One more on.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, David. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 21: I don't want you to think that I'm a smart
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  Speaker 21: guy all the time, but the people that worked inside
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  Speaker 21: the bakery, they belonged to the bakers and confectionery workers
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  Speaker 21: out of Cleveland. And then the guys that were the drivers,
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  Speaker 21: they belonged to the teamsters.
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  Speaker 10: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 21: So there was two different unions down there. But I
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  Speaker 21: know this guy that lives over in Struthers. He was
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  Speaker 21: a catcher. I had Donald Schwabels on the oven. He
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  Speaker 21: did that for 30, 35 years.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out of time. I'm out of time. Sean's next.
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  Speaker 26: From ABC News, I'm Dave Packard. President Trump is threatening
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  Speaker 26: to cancel negotiations with Iran if they do not agree
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  Speaker 26: to long-term nuclear inspections.
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  Speaker 2: Iran's reasonable if they're smart. Otherwise, we'll have to..
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  Speaker 16: Finish the job, which will take about maybe less than
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 16: a week.
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  Speaker 26: While the president says Tehran already agreed to those inspections,
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  Speaker 26: Iran insists it's made no such promise. Today on Capitol Hill,
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  Speaker 26: the Senate delivered its strongest rebuke yet. Four Republicans joined
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  Speaker 26: Democrats to say the war must stop unless the White
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  Speaker 26: House seeks congressional approval. Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal.
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  Speaker 13: I hope we can avoid a restart of this disastrous,
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  Speaker 13: unnecessary conflict. But it will depend on smart, strategic negotiations.
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  Speaker 26: The White House says that vote has, quote, no significance.
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  Speaker 26: The Supreme Court has issued a new ruling on religious freedom.
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  Speaker 26: In a 6-3 decision today, the court rejected former inmate
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  Speaker 26: Damon Landor's bid to sue for damages after he was
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  Speaker 26: forcibly shaved bald in prison. Landor is a devout Rastafarian.
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  Speaker 26: ABC News legal contributor James Sample.
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  Speaker 27: In this particular context, as in many other contexts, there
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  Speaker 27: is no dispute. as to the right at issue and
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  Speaker 27: there is no dispute that the right at issue to
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  Speaker 27: not have his head shaved in this way was violated
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  Speaker 27: but it is all about the remedy not whether his
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 27: rights were violated and in this case the court essentially
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  Speaker 27: says yes he has a right but no he doesn't
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  Speaker 27: have a remedy if the remedy is monetary damages.
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  Speaker 26: Police in chico california say the suspect in a deadly
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  Speaker 26: library shooting wanted to carry out a quote columbine style
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  Speaker 26: massacre he has.
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  Speaker 25: No known connections to any of the victims in the
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  Speaker 25: library And based on information revealed during the interviews, our
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  Speaker 25: detectives believe the suspect was influenced by the Columbine High
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  Speaker 25: School shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Chipwreck on Wall Street.
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  Speaker 26: The Nasdaq falling 580 points today.
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