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05/02/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Chris Withrow and Greg Thomas · The Dave Allen Show

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Chris Withrow from the Bennie Keadam Shrine. How are you man, Good morning,
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Dave. How you doing I'm doing fine. We invite Chris sin about
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once a month just to kind of update this on some things that are going
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on with the Minnie Kendam Shrine. Always something going on with you. We
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are busy, busy, especially the next two months day. We've got so
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much stuff going on, a lot of fun things, a lot of great
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activities. I mean, we're gonna start off this weekend with a really big
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thing. It's our ninth annual poker run that our Logan Shrine Club puts on.
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It's a wonderful thing. All the proceeds benefit the Shrine Club. They're
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gonna be starting out at Guest registration will start at eight am, uh and
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back. No, no, where does the registration wars it happening. That's
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happening down at Logan UM on twenty twenty two Main Avenue in Logan. I'm
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sure that that's where the Shrine Club. That's the headquarters, and that's the
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head Yes, sir, that's the headquarters for the Actually, I don't know
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if I mentioned this on the show or not. My class reunion ten year,
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twenty twenty five, year, thirty whatever ish reunion is being held at
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the Shrine Club in Logan later the summer. Awesome. So that's that's where
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it is. It's right there. It's next to McDonald's on the main drag.
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What we call it the triangle and Logan, So that triangle that's where
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it is. But go ahead. But yeah, it's twenty dollars a person.
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There's gonna be a lot of activities. They're gonna be giving away best
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hand, worst hand, fifty fifty drawings, door prizes, all kinds of
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raffle things. It's gonna be a great event, So try to get out
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there again. Registration starts at eight am and then everybody come back to the
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Shrine Club. Byfore they'll be drawing, giveaways, be having a great time
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and that's always a great event. Again, that's that ninth annual poker run
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that our hardness working Trine Club definitely is logan and they're certainly gonna have a
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great time there this weekend. Also, any time yere with Benny Epplin,
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it's a good time, absolutely, he's a lot of fun. Well,
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you know, for the last couple months we've been selling our onions, which
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is one of our major fundraisers. They're coming in on May sixth, So
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on the sixth and then the next few days we'll be getting those onions out
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to everybody that purchased them. Did very well this year on the onions.
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I think we sold almost a thousand more bags this year than we did last
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year, which is yes, it is. And you were selling those primarily
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at your facility and Charleston, is that right or yeah? And then all
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of our members all the orders out, they take orders, pre orders and
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sell them. So they're coming in this weekend and then May twelfth and thirteenth,
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two day event here at one hundred Corrier Street. Our potentate this year
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is having a nobility or a barbecue on the parking lot. They're gonna be
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doing playing cornhole, they're gonna have the clowns are gonna be there. It's
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open to the public. And that's one of the things I like that you
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folks do, and I have you in about once a month, you know,
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to talk about the different things. Is that even if you're not a
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quote unquote member or part of the Shrine, you do so many things that
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are open to the public like this. So you don't have to be a
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member of the Shrine to come to this thing, right, No, you
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do not. And all of our events, all of our events, we
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advertise are open to the public. That's how we get the message out and
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we're able to raise the money to keep things rocking and rolling down there one
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hundred Corrier Street and to give money back to the hospitals, because that's ultimately
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what we do. And so we have that picnic on Saturday at one hundred
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Corrier Street. That's the twelfth, I'm sorry, that's Friday. Then Saturday
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the twelfth is actually the Potentate's Ball, and this year it's gonna be a
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lot of fun. It's a lou out theme, so you don't have to
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dress up for this coming your appropriate beach ware. You hear that Hollywood that
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stamed to you appropriate beachware. Okay, go ahead. So that kind of
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rounds out our big events for May, and then you know, as soon
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as May's winding up, we jump right into and this is a first thing,
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first time we've ever done this, where we are hosting a female self
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defense course and that's going to be on June the tenth. It's from ten
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unto one right at the Temple Downtown. Fifty dollars per person. It's a
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UH self hand self defense class um that uses keys for ladies UH to teach
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them to to defend themselves, be aware looking different situations and and and give
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them some skills to keep themselves safe using keys as a weapon. Absolutely.
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Yeah, So we have some really highly trained instructors looking forward to that.
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That's gonna be that's gonna be a lot of that's absolutely cost for that.
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Yes, that's fifty dollars dollars person. I've got two girls, uh,
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younger girls. They will be attending. I mean to make sure that they've
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been volunteld Absolutely, so that's gonna be something fun. I think that we
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will continue to do that and build on those courses. Um. I think
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it's a wonderful thing. And it's something that um Mickey Martin, our potentate,
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wanted to do this year and thought it would be a great thing.
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Uh. Fish fry Friday, Um, June sixteenth, at four o'clock.
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It starts. That's Friday, obviously, and we're gonna be doing a fish
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fry that's gonna benefit the clowns and um the Assassa, which is a South
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Atlantic Shrine association. Um, we're putting that together and it's gonna be fun.
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So that's that's the first time we've done a fish fry in a long
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time, and we want everybody that can hear us right now to come by.
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It's going to be fifteen dollars a plate. You're gonna get fries and
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and hush puppies and coleslaw and and French fries. The whole nine yards is
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going to be a great You have there, do you have to do?
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You have to have to have Tabasco sauce. We will have Tabasco just for
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you, just for you. But yeah, we're doing a lot of great
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things right now. In the hospitals are doing well. There's a lot of
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a lot of momentum. I guess you've seen where Shriner's Uh ambassador Alec was
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on the red carpet at the NFL draft, So that was a big thing
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for us, and we're very excited about that. And you know, things
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are you know, we're coming into the summer months where we can get outside
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and do a lot of different things. And unless you live in northern West
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Virginia where they have snow, see that. This morning, I was like,
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Holy Molly, that's crazy. Chris has got some pictures posted that I
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shared him on Day All on radio and Facebook of I think it was Tucker
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County this morning. I've seen that. I was like, yeah, yeah,
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welcome to me. But that's that's kind of a freak thing. And
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it's even up there. It's going to go away and uh, and we're
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looking forward to a summer full of activities, actually getting outdoors a little bit
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here absolutely, you know. And with that, uh, you know,
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we have weddings at springtime, we've got problems, we've got birthdays and all
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different types of activities. And one hundred Corrier Street our shrine temple. We
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rent that out and we do a really good job. We've made some great
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improvements. Um inside, UM you can come in take a look at the
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place, rent it. You can call h three zero four three four three
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nine four zero five, or you can also look at look at us on
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the internet at Benny KEATAM w V N I K E D E M correct
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yeah WV dot us and you can come down take a look at what we're
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doing and rent the space. And that's one of the things that I try
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to hit on every month. Chris and getting Chris withrow from the being a
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Kingdom shrine shrine, I don't know, always put an m and their shrine
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is with us and that particular building. I've been in it, you know,
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several times, different events that have been held there. It's a fantastic
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facility. So if you are planning a wedding I mentioned class reunion, uh,
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you know some any kind of an activity like that. This would be
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senior parties. I mean a lot of people, a lot of parents will
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throw like a graduation party for their kids or their kids and their friends or
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whatever. That's a fantastic facility. Tell us what's in the facility for the
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people? I mean, I know it's you've got space and chairs, but
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what else is in it? Well, I mean we have a grand ballroom
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and it's it's decorated very nice. We do a great job. We have
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different meeting rooms anything from ten to twelve people all the way up to four
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hundred. Of course, we do have the best parking Charleston. Yes,
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you beat that. It doesn't matter the size, plenty of parking. Um
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you know, we have um a place to set up. We have two
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kitchens, fully furnished kitchens, one obviously as a cooking and then a serving
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kitchen upstairs. Anything that you would need, anything that you could possibly need
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to do an event of any size. We have it and we have the
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staff to to help you and help you get through it. But it's a
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maximum capacity. Well I think legally it's three ninety nine, so we just
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say four hundred round up. Well, but to sneak one more person in,
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I don't think it'll be a big Maybe maybe he's a short guy,
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so we'll just put him in there. But but okay, I mean,
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so you can hold up to four hundred people, yes, so I mean
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and again that's a good size for a wedding, for you know, some
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sort of a birthday, part, anniversary, you know, all these different
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things. We've got an all class reunion coming in I think from DuPont Um
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the summer um, so there'll be hunt you know, several hundred people in
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for that. And again we do every you know, we have the ability
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to do classroom setting. So if you you're doing training, continue education,
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any type of situation that you would have a need to have a facility,
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we can we can accommodate and you can just reach out to you on that
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website or a phone call or whatever to call. Yeah, you can go
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to B E N I K E D E M WUV dot us, or
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you can call the temple at three zero four three four three nine four zero
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five and there's almost always somebody there nine to five. There's someone there every
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Monday and again folks, and we do want to let people know you do
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not have to be a member of that's trying to use is anybody can use.
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Anybody can use it. And it's such a great facility for things like
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that, you know, just thinking of all the different things that happened during
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the summer months, as I said, weddings, anniversary parties, you know,
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graduation parties, you can do all those absolutely and plenty of free parking
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too, plenty, yes, And we absolutely enjoy We like to work with
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the community. We like to have everybody out and so we are. We're
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going to be doing a lot of things this year. Things are ramping up
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and we're getting ext it for spring and in summer and we're gonna have a
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great time. A text here for you. Somebody has a question, all
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right, what exactly is a potentate From the text line, somebody wanted to
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know that. Well, the potentate, I guess in some organizations you would
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have a board of directors. Well, we call it a divan or divan,
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and then I guess the head or the chairman of that board, chairman,
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presidency, its potentate. Okay, So basically, every year we have
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a new guide that is set you know, gets in line and each year
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it transfers down to the next person in line, and that year they get
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to to kind of station like any other organization, they just steer it and
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and they get to kind of put their thumbprint on how we raise money and
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the things and activities that we do. And you know, it's a it's
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a ten year line to start, so you know, it's a it's a
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ten year commitment to UM to become a potentate at the at the Temple,
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and uh, it's it's a wonderful thing. You know, you learn a
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lot along the way, you meet a lot of nice people, and you
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know, you get to put your thumbprint on how we run things for a
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year and have the kind of moneys that were raised. And at the end
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of the day, it's all about raising money for the hospitals. Think that
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about that. We're out there having fun with a purpose. All right,
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give us the contact information again, Okay, it's telephone numbers, aery code
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three z row four three four three nine four zer row five and our website
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is b E N I K E D E m WUV dot us. All
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right, you're gonna head down to la this weekend for Benny's for the event
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down there, or you've got other things you have going I actually have several
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things going on. First and foremost is getting these onions out so new distribution.
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We have eighteen wheeler load coming and then that's an eighteen wheeler of onion.
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That's a lot of oh yes it is. So we've got to get
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that all disseminated, get them out there and get them to the people so
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they can start and join their onions over the weekend. All right, good
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stuff. That's Chris winthrow for the Benny keatam Shrine nine twenty two. Chris
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has always pleasure to talk man. Thanks all right, talked to you.
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you been man? Doing very well? How are you? I am doing
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well? Since the last time you and I spoke, Several things have happened
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three five five zero zero eight. We know the Governor Justice is now running
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for Senate. He'll face Alex Mooney and Chris Rose and the primary winner to
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possibly meet Senator Mansion. I say possibly because we don't know yet what Senator
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Mansion is going to do. But before we get to Senator Mansion, I
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want to get your take of that. Let's talk about the governor first.
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Is is he up to this in your opinion? I mean, he's in
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a good spot politically for it, right, I mean I think you know,
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he's got a high favorability rating. You know, he's you know,
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gotten a lot of credit for the Republican agenda that's passed over the last few
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years, and you know, and that's been you know, they've done a
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lot of good stuff and a lot of stuff that's very popular. You know.
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So he's you know, politically, he's in a good spot. I
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think, you know, look personally, right, it's like you you know,
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you he leaves the businesses, you know, does the governor thing for
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eight years, you know, I would think it would be just cut up
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logistically hard to like go back into the businesses, right, I mean I
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would I mean, I you know, I don't know his internal business stuff,
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but like it just seems like it would be you know, he's just
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he's got to do something. You know. I'm a guy like that that's
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as busy as he is, has got to be doing something, you know.
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And so if it's like, all right, you're not going to go
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back into the business, uh, you you're term limited out as governor.
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You kind of got to go somewhere, And the US Senate's a pretty good
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spot to sort of just end up. So I think he's in a good
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position for it. And he's got some pretty heavy hitters behind him for that.
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I mean, Mitch McConnell is one of the ones that's kind of come
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out. He had Lindsay Graham at his announcement Greenbrow last week. Greg,
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Yeah, I mean I I'd rather not have the support of much McConnell.
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I mean, I guess I could see he's a candidate. Why you would
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want to he's a voter. I look at it and go it makes him
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he sort of leary because I'm not a McConnell's supporter, but like, uh,
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well, sure, you know, I think he's in a good spot.
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Um, I think his you know, when you look at the match
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up with him and Mooney, obviously, I'm sure he has a big lead
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or you know, I want to say a big lead. He has a
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sizeable lead right now, because he's got you know, he's been the governor,
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right, he's got super high name ID, he's got high favorabilities.
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Um. I do think Mooney's politics and sort of how he would vote is
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probably a little more in line with the Republican primary voters than than Justice,
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you know, having been a former Democrat, and you know, I would
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I don't know if he's a moderate. I don't really know what. I
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don't know how you would describe Justice as politics, right, I mean,
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I don't think he's really a moderate. He's not a conservative. He's just
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sort of, you know, depending on the issue, he kind of follows
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different ways. So you know. But but the one thing he does well
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is he connects with a lot of voters. You know, he connects with
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a lot of just average everyday people, which is really ironic when you think
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about it. Much like Trump, it's I mean, somebody who's a billionaire.
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And I will say this, no one has ever questioned Jim Justice's work
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ethic. Maybe they've questioned his governor a little bit, but they've never questioned
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his work ethic. As far as his businesses go and things of that nature.
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He was always on the job. Not a guy that takes a lot
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of vacations. Hoppy talked about this last week, not a gap, takes
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a lot of vacations, whatever. But for some reason, and maybe it's
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just the whole folksy thing he does. I mean, he's one of the
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most like the fourth Indeni which pole you look at the fourth most popular governor
22:41
in America and there it's like the people know the negatives that come with Jim
22:48
Justice, but they don't seem to care. You know, well, I
22:52
just think he connects with them. I think a lot of you know,
22:55
West Virginians just sort of find a way to kind of see him, and
22:59
they find and something about him that they can relate to and um, and
23:04
so he connects. Uh. You know, I think if you you know,
23:07
look, I think if you went up there and said, okay,
23:10
how is you know he's not gonna vote all that differently than what Mooney would.
23:14
But Mooney checks the box right like one hundred percent of the time.
23:17
Before West Virginians would vote right like just down the line every time. You
23:21
know, he votes exactly the way our center right people would vote. Um.
23:25
Justice is going to be there a lot, probably not always um,
23:29
but you know that that connection that he has with folks, Uh, that's
23:33
gonna be the thing that's going to be difficult for for Mooney to overcome.
23:37
Um. No, Look, Mooney has done that several times. I mean,
23:41
you know, there's never been a campaign where Mooney started out as the
23:42
favorite. So I mean he's you know, he's done. I mean,
23:45
nobody thought that he was going to obliterate David McKinley like he did. I
23:48
Mean, it wasn't to me as surprised that he he beat McKinley. But
23:52
with all due respect to David McKinley, he blew him out of the water.
23:56
No, he did. And uh look at that again, that was
23:59
the support of Trump and just that very conservative voting record, right, he
24:04
votes right every time. And so look, I think, you know it
24:11
without Trump's involvement, you know, if Trump just doesn't get involved in this
24:15
race, which I have no idea if you will or not, but let's
24:17
just say Trump doesn't get involved, I think that's a very competitive I think
24:22
Mooney will be able to make it a very competitive race, and it will
24:26
be up to you know, does the governor sort of stake out a more
24:30
conservative position and does Mooney? Can Mooney find a way to start connecting with
24:37
people. He's not going to be able to connect with people the way Justice
24:40
can, but can he do a better job of connecting with people the Congressman
24:42
Mooney has already come out, you know, guns a blazing talking about the
24:48
governor and the fact that he used to be a Democrat, his financial issues.
24:52
I saw one of the TV I mean, he announced on Thursday,
24:53
Friday morning, six thirty in the morning. I've got the local TV news
24:57
on and there's already Alex. And this is not a pack running. This
25:02
is Alex Mooney, you know, for Senate run an ad And they talked
25:04
about the way he had handled COVID. They had a character of him with
25:07
a mask. Got a lot of people are still upset with the way the
25:11
governor handled COVID. And you know, this is Greg. This is only
25:15
going to continue. This is you know, the US Senate is a very
25:21
big deal, right, I mean that the federal government is so big,
25:25
right, America is so important in the world, and you know, the
25:29
government is involved in so much of our lives in every aspect that there's just
25:33
you know, there's a lot of interest in who he serves in the US
25:37
Senate um and guess what, the US Senator from West Virginia has the same
25:41
equal vote as the US Senator from California right in New York or Texas or
25:45
whatever. And so it's you know that there's a lot of power in that
25:48
US Senate position, which means there's going to be a lot of interest.
25:52
There's going to be a lot of money of people trying to pursue you know,
25:56
sort of pursua you know, uh, influence the direct you know where
26:00
that campaign goes and so I look, you know, save a Trump endorsement,
26:07
that's going to be a competitive race. That's going to be very,
26:11
very expensive. Um. You know, I think today it's probably Justices to
26:15
lose, But I do think it's going to be competitive, and you know,
26:18
I think Justice is going to have to make clear you know, kind
26:21
of where you know, we've seen he's gone along with the Republican not that
26:26
he always did, right, I mean, and that's sort of what Mooney's
26:29
gonna bring up. It's right, those first couple of years Justice really fought
26:33
with the Republican high ranking you know, well, I mean but that was
26:38
you know, that was like a policy thing of like, Okay, how
26:41
are we going to go down this road? I mean, that stuff at
26:42
the beginning, right, was just you know, it was battle. So
26:45
yeah, yeah, he was he was just straight up. I mean,
26:49
you know, he did propose the biggest tax increase in the state history.
26:52
And then as he switched parties and then got along more with the Republican legislature
27:00
and the way they were handling, um, you know, the way they
27:03
were handling the state finances, it put us in a position to be able
27:07
to cut taxes and um, you know, so you know that's what I'm
27:10
saying. I mean, I think that's what Justice is going to have to
27:11
do, is say, hey, you know, explain that further to say,
27:15
all right, here's where I you know, here I started out as
27:18
a Democrat, and here I was, and here's how I evolved into where
27:22
I am now, And this is where I would be in the US center.
27:26
And I think he's going to have to make that clear to to convince
27:30
kind of that center, right of like, hey, you know, okay,
27:33
I connect with you a little better, but gosh, I know Mooney's
27:36
going to vote with me? Is he going to vote with me too?
27:38
And I think Greg and I go back to what I said at the beginning
27:41
of the segment. And I'm not trying to be you know, mean or
27:44
anything like that, but it's a different world in Washington. You know that.
27:48
Uh, it's a different world. He's going to have to be there.
27:52
Um he's and he's just one of you know, uh, he's he's
27:56
going to have to be there. Ficially, there's going to happen to be
28:00
there. Something they can they can make that they can make. And when
28:06
you've got as much money as justice as you can fly in and out,
28:07
you know, you can get it over. I mean, look, you
28:10
don't have to go to anymore, right you watch these Senate hearings and stuff
28:14
like that. They're just huge. I mean, you know you see all
28:18
that the other like, unless you unless it's like your turn to speak and
28:22
your day to give your dog and pony show, those guys probably aren't showing
28:26
up to that, you know what I mean. Like, like it's like,
28:27
you know when you gotta have your turn to speak, so you show
28:30
up. But if you don't have a turn to speak, what a you
28:32
gotta be there. You have to be there if somebody tells you what goes
28:34
on or whatever. You watch it on television. Yeah, I was listening
28:37
to Dave Wilson, who's in for Hoppy the next two weeks, and he
28:38
had on Tony Hodge, who's a vice chair of the State Republican Party,
28:41
and Dave asked him that whomever comes out of the battle between money and justice
28:48
and a primary um and I like to try to be fair to the other
28:51
candidate in the race, but let's be honest here, it's going to be
28:53
Mooney your justice um if they are left bruised and battered for the general possibly
29:00
up against Senator Mansion. How does that play out? Because of the Mansion's
29:03
not running again, there's no even sense of talking about it. Yes,
29:07
no way. After he voted for that Green New Deal, that was it.
29:11
Yeah, that was it. That was done. Yeah, he was
29:14
done the day he voted for that. That was it. His his political
29:18
you know, his ability to run again in West Virginia ended the day he
29:22
voted for that Green New Deal. That's it. There's no there's no coming
29:25
back from that. I mean, he made a decision to you know,
29:27
I personally, I think Mansion's got a better chance getting elected president than he
29:33
does Senate. And that's not gonna happen. I mean, with this no
29:37
no level deal, what's going to happen? I heard an interesting scenario and
29:41
and I'm not the the the civics expert that you are, and you can
29:45
possibly you can, you're aware of this. If if Mansion runs for president,
29:49
and you know, he he gets to that that magic number, that
29:55
electrical that it kind of throws everything into a tailspin, then it has to
29:57
be decided, you know, by our representatives. I mean, are you
30:02
familiar with this, Yeah. I mean it's got to be like real club.
30:04
I mean, that's like a tire. Do you think do you think
30:07
there's enough people in America that I just I don't know. I think he's
30:11
more likely. I think given Biden's age and obvious cognitive decline, that's obvious.
30:18
It's obvious. I want to talk about that later, but I think
30:22
I think Mansion would be better off just getting that Democratic primary and crossing his
30:27
fingers. Really I do. I mean, I don't know. I don't
30:30
I don't know enough about to be able to run as a third party and
30:36
win, you would have to have an obscene amount of money and not look
30:40
not. I think Mansion could raise a good bit of money. It's an
30:42
independent. Um. But I think I just think there's going to be I
30:48
think there's a space in the National Democratic Party. I don't think there is
30:52
in West Virginia or maybe in a couple of places, right, but I
30:56
think in Pennsylvania, in Michigan there's a there's a spot for a Democrat that
31:03
comes in and says, hey, um, I think this transgender stuff is
31:07
there's lunacy. Um, I think this inflation is out of control. Um.
31:14
I don't think Biden has the wherewithal and the is, you know,
31:18
sort of mentally up for a second term. Who else she got? I
31:23
just I don't know. I don't know what you know. I'm not a
31:26
Democrat. I'm not into you know, the I don't follow the federal stuff
31:30
as much as a lot of other people do. I don't know what all
31:33
the states are. I would just assume there's a spot for that kind of
31:37
person. I don't know what that is. I don't know how hard it
31:41
would be to get around it. The problem with Mansion is, Greg is
31:45
I think there's a lot. I mean, you know that the Republicans are
31:48
against you, but there's a whole heck of a lot of Democrats, especially
31:49
outside West Virginia, that do not see Joe Mansion as one of them.
31:55
I mean, all you're gonna do is it would be hard. Joe Manchion
32:00
not do very well in New York, he wouldn't do very well in Chicago.
32:04
He's not going to do very well in California. But what about the
32:07
Pennsylvanias and the you know, the other places like that. I mean,
32:12
I just I think that they're you know, the blue states that don't have
32:16
huge cities, or they have at least a lot of rural and kind of
32:20
suburban areas. And look, I don't know if Mansion would really do that
32:25
or not. I you know, I don't, you know, obviously I
32:28
no one, but I mean I know of him, but I don't.
32:30
It's not like we're buddies and we talk on the phone or something, So
32:34
I don't know. I mean, I just I don't know if he's going
32:37
to do that. But I just don't think there's a there's not a path
32:39
for him to win the US Senate seed in West Virginia. It doesn't exist,
32:44
you know. And you and you say that, and we'll go to
32:45
break with this. Um. You say that about about Mansion and his support
32:50
in a lot of those non urban areas like you mentioned Pennsylvania in those series.
32:53
Those are people that voted for Trump in twenty sixteen, but many of
32:57
them turned around and voted for Biden in twenty twenty, and they voted for
33:00
Democrats for US Senate before, you know, I mean, that's we Republicans
33:05
would have control of the US Senate if those people would have voted for Republican
33:07
candidates last time. Yeah, all right, Well, I'm want to get
33:10
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Thomas is here where the tech says You're right day. The Democratic Party establishment
36:30
absolutely loath Joe Mansion. He cannot move much higher in his party, Texas
36:37
says, What does Greg think about Mike Stewart trying to bounce around into the
36:38
ag position? Washingtonson one vote for him for Attorney General when he won't even
36:43
commit to the current job he was voted to do. Mike Stewart's got an
36:46
announcement coming up today that everybody, you know, pretty much, it's the
36:51
foregone coclusion. He's going announce he's running for attorney General. That announcement is
36:54
today. He'll be on the show Thursday. Go ahead. Look, I
36:57
don't think there's a political downside for one of the advantages to being in the
37:02
state Senate, especially one that's sort of this off year, right, Like,
37:06
if you got elected last year in the state Senate, you can run
37:08
for something else this year and not give up your position, you know,
37:13
and that's just a great you know, there's a lot of senators that end
37:16
up doing stuff like that because they sort of look at it like it's a
37:19
free pass, right. It's like, Okay, I don't have to give
37:21
up my spot, but I can run for something else. Um. Look,
37:23
I think that's going to be a competitive ag race. I mean,
37:25
I think you got you know, Ryan weld A is a you know,
37:29
and I look, I know both these guys personally. I'm friends with both
37:31
of them. I like both of them. Um, but they're different,
37:35
right, I mean, you know, very different. Weld is you know,
37:37
weld isn't is from the Northern Panhandle. You know, Stuart's uh has
37:42
lived down here for a long time. He's kind of from the I don't
37:45
know what's Stewart from, like Morgantown or Barbara County or Barbara County originally,
37:47
I think him and families from anyway, I'll put it, you know.
37:50
And so, uh, you know, Stuart's probably a little more on the
37:54
populist, sort of conservative side. Weld's a little bit more on the you
38:00
know sort of business uh you know, establishment sort of business side. Um.
38:07
You know, but they're they're both well spoken guys obviously, both attorneys,
38:12
um, you know, kind of have a corporate business background. Uh,
38:15
you know, just a different sort of view politically, and I think
38:20
that's what that campaign will be about, right, it's just you know,
38:22
hey, how are you gonna do? You know, how are you going
38:24
to handle this office? Um? Obviously, you know, most of the
38:28
attention that comes out of the g AG's office is sort of the fighting the
38:31
federal government and the pushbacks. Yeah, and then that's you know, but
38:36
but there's more to it than that. UM. I think that Morrissey um
38:39
has done a good job on that pushback stuff. I think it's the other
38:43
stuff that that that's where these guys are going to have to say Hey,
38:46
here's where I would break you know. You know, Morrissey campaigned on being
38:52
sort of different than more than than Darryl mcgrawl, and this is you know,
38:57
he's been in there for a while. So for those of us that
38:59
were involved in that effort, which I was, um, you know,
39:01
it was like, oh, I'm not going to hire outside council and go
39:05
around suing companies and suing people all all the time. But he did,
39:08
right, I mean, Morrissey very much did that, despite the fact that
39:12
he campaigned against it. Um. I think that's something to really That's what
39:15
I'm going to be looking for from these AG candidates. It's like, Okay,
39:19
how do you handle that? How are you going to handle you know,
39:22
just you know, hiring personal injury lawyers on behalf of the state to
39:25
go out and sue businesses. Um. You know that's something that Morrissey pledged
39:30
to do and didn't do. How are you going to handle that? And
39:32
so I think the on the from the business end, from the job creator
39:36
side, that's going to be the you know, something to look at in
39:38
that race. Uh, Texas, Greg, you can say bribe you don't
39:43
have to use in your window. You can say US senators are bribed because
39:45
of their influential vote. Try it being honest will set you free. Um,
39:51
I mean they're not bribed. I mean listen again, So it's a
39:54
weird way to look at I mean, there's just there's you know, there's
39:59
a lot of money in camp pains, you know. You know, running
40:01
ads on this station are not free. In television, it's not free.
40:07
In the digital ads and stuff you see on Facebook, they're not free.
40:10
Polling isn't free, you know what I mean, Like like campaigns cost money,
40:15
are an inner expensive, you know. I don't think it's like just
40:17
going directly into these guys pockets. Look, do I think that there are
40:22
corrupt US senators? Obviously I do, but I don't you know, look,
40:27
I don't think. I don't think any of these people are just getting
40:30
bribed to vote one way or the other. I mean, like got some
40:32
texts or Texas. If Mike Stuart were a populist, it wouldn't be opposed
40:36
to cannabis legislation. He's a conservative to a fault. Texture says, I
40:39
have to disagree with your guest. I would never vote for justice orimony for
40:43
anything. And I think there are a lot of people like me who pay
40:45
no attention to R or D but to effectiveness. I guess I've just seen
40:52
polling, so I know that that's that's I mean, I understand that person
40:55
feels that way, and I are staying there's other people that feel that way,
40:59
but it's not the most most Virginias. Most most Virginians do not feel
41:01
that way. I mean, it's that's just not I get that there are
41:05
people that do, but that's not most of people in most Virginia. Tech
41:07
says Dear Dave Gregg doesn't understand big Gym's likability in West Virginia because Greg himself
41:13
doesn't have it. Personality goes a long way here. I voted against Jim
41:15
at first into a full one eighty. However, I've disliked Gregg the entire
41:20
time. Oh well, that's the laws or something. They're you know,
41:24
there are Democrats out there, and there are you know, kind of rhinos.
41:30
That's you know, they get to call in and text into uh.
41:32
Texas Republicans of the state cannot run on their record. The state is last
41:36
in education. Job let me finish. The state is last in education,
41:39
job participation, job creation led the country and drug overdose deaths. Energy bills
41:45
have gone up one hundred and fifty percent of the last eight years, and
41:47
no end in sight. That's GOP leadership. That's this is that's a ridiculous
41:52
thing to say Democrats had control of the state for eighty four years. Uh.
41:57
Let let's I'll point out one you know, almost all of that the
42:00
I'll say one thing they're actually right about, and then all the rest of
42:04
it was wrong. But I'll point out one of the things that's wrong because
42:07
it's the easiest thing to point out. There's this thing called workforce participation rate,
42:10
right, which is how many people in your state that our able body
42:14
actually get up and go to work every day. They've been the federal government
42:17
has been calculating this number every month since February of nineteen seventy six. West
42:23
Virginia has been last in that category every month since February of nineteen seventy six.
42:30
To say that, to say that that's the Republicans fault just because we
42:35
took over a few years ago, is that's it's just an outrageous thing to
42:37
say, and it's it's dishonest, actually, is what it is. The
42:42
one point that I will give them is the drug overdose stuff. You know,
42:46
we we were we were last in drug overdose when when the Republicans took
42:51
over, But it actually is something that has gotten worse. And so I
42:54
think that's you know, I've been in a lot of conversations with Republicans.
42:59
I think that is going to be an issue that's going to be looked at.
43:01
Look, I'm not saying this is all the Republicans fault of some kind
43:06
of policies they've done. I just think we're going to have to put in
43:09
new policies to fix it. I think a lot of this is kind of
43:13
stemming from some federal things that have you know, federal kind of programs that
43:15
have gone on that have sort of promoted this over the last few years.
43:19
But I think the Republicans do need to get serious about addressing the drug problem
43:22
and the drug overdose problem in West Virginia. For sure, the tech says
43:27
Republicans won't stay out of women's bodies and they won't do anything about the guns.
43:30
Instead of fire drills, children have to have school shooter drills. Sure,
43:36
how that's sort of part of the Republicans, but that's you know,
43:38
some people are liberals and have that viewpoint, and you know that that's just
43:44
not the view of I mean, West Virginia is a center right state.
43:47
Right, we are you know, we're a pro Second Amendment state. We're
43:52
a pro life state with exceptions. Right. We didn't you know, we
43:55
didn't ban it entirely. We've been you know, we banned abortion with exceptions.
44:00
Uh, West Virginia's system. We're a center right state. And those
44:02
are just because that's that. That is the majority, the majority, the
44:06
vast majority of West Virginia. That's not going to change. That's not going
44:07
to change anytime in the next thirty years. I don't think it'll change during
44:12
our lifetime. I'll say that I can't imagine it work. Remember, says
44:15
the texture Trump did not have a press conference for his last three years as
44:17
president. Correct. I don't know whether he did or not. It can
44:21
imagine If that is true, then then he was wrong. And I would
44:25
I would say to say that Trump wasn't accessible to the medias. He loved
44:30
the media. He went after the media. Uh, well, he went
44:36
after him. But it was also like this give and take though, right,
44:38
I mean, they loved they loved having him there as much as he
44:42
loved having them cover, he loved having them cover him. All Right,
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I mean to do this texting, we'll go to break and I guest some
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other things I want to get into with the Inflation is down three point three
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percent since August twenty twenty two. Do you have the guts to acknowledge that
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this has nothing to do with the congressional Republicans who passed no laws? Also?
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Do you have the guts to admit inflation in response well for records severance
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taxes in West Virginia. UM, I don't think you can entirely. I
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don't think you can entirely correlate inflation and UM and the and the energy prices.
45:15
I mean, it's just a they're two different things. I'm not saying
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they don't have any relationship to each other, but I don't. I don't
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think that's something you can say one is rather than the other. UM,
45:23
you know, commodity prices of something like energy in the you know, just
45:30
general inflation. I mean, if you don't think inflation was spurred on by
45:34
all the printing of all that money a couple of years ago and the continued
45:39
dramatic increases in federal spending. You know, you just you just don't understand
45:45
economics, and I don't really know how to, you know, I don't
45:46
think we can get into that on a talk show. All right, nine
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48:29
level or just complain about Biden and Lows, I, you know, I
48:32
actually do not. I do not have an opinion on that, but I've
48:37
just because I haven't like seen enough data on it. But it seems like
48:43
there's a lot of merit in that. I mean, it's sort of you
48:45
know, you know, we're not going to be able to stop it in
48:49
certain places, right, I mean, states. States are the ones that
48:52
regulate how the elections go in those states, and so you get some of
48:54
these blue states, you know, or kind of purple states if you will,
49:00
that probably you know, I passed some laws that facilitate that kind of
49:04
stuff. And if the Republicans can't change the laws, and those are the
49:07
rules to the game, you're gonna have to play, you know, If
49:09
those are the rules of the game, you're gonna have to play the game
49:10
that way. So I mean, I think, you know, I don't
49:13
know enough about it to get down in the weeds, um, just because
49:16
I you know, I mainly just can't you know, work here in West
49:20
Virginia. So I know what the I know what the rules of the game
49:22
here are, right, So I mean if I were in Pennsylvania, if
49:24
I'm in Michigan and the rules of the game are different, I think that
49:29
person's probably right that the Republicans are going to have to learn how to play
49:31
within the confines of the whatever the rules are. Tech says the GOP or
49:37
Old Democrats could or couldn't be both to blame for West Virginia as well.
49:40
Was However, one philosophy is historically the driving force behind both West Virginia parties,
49:45
and that's conservatism. We can blame conservatism for West Virginia being perpetually at
49:51
the bottom. That's an that is a and that's a ridiculous thing to say.
49:55
I mean that, like seriously, that's a ridiculous thing to say.
49:58
To think that West Virginia had conservative policies in place post like you know,
50:05
post Great Depression, that's an outrageous thing to say. We're still dealing with
50:08
a lot of the socialistic type policies that were put in place after the Great
50:14
Depression to this day in West Virginia. And that's one hundred percent the reason
50:17
we were lasting everything. It's not even up for debate. I mean,
50:21
but I don't think that you can say, maybe I'm wrong. I don't
50:22
want to put words in greg. I don't think that you can say that
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West Virginia was a liberal state with Democrats. We remember the Amendment stuff we
50:31
tried to pass last year and tried to say, Okay, we got to
50:35
come in and we're going to change the way we tax. You know,
50:37
when those you know that that part of the Like, those weren't just laws
50:42
the legislature past post Great Depression. Those were things they enshrined in the constitution.
50:46
That wasn't stuff that started out in the constitution when we first became a
50:50
state. That stuff was put in the constitution after the Great Depression. Is
50:54
a reaction to just sort of anti corporate interests. Like we still have that
51:00
stuff, it still exists today. Like you know that I don't know.
51:05
I mean, I maybe this person just doesn't know the history of it.
51:07
But like that that is the reason, man, I mean, these aren't
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thing, These aren't things that started in our constitution when we became a state.
51:14
Like these are things up. Many of the things that are in place
51:17
now are things that are a reaction to the Great Depression and things that came
51:22
in with FDR and all of that. And we have been undoing that stuff
51:29
for seven years and it's going to take another you know, I don't know
51:31
how long it's going to take. I hope it's not much more than another
51:35
seven to undo it, all right, Greg, It's always a pleasure to
51:37
have you on the show. And there's always I don't get to all them.
51:38
There's two concerts on this show. When I have you on the show
51:42
or Mike Pushkin on the show, I never get to all the text.
51:45
You know, Pushkin are so much alike, uh not really alike. Had
51:51
a text to the show when somebody asked if I gonna have Mike Pushkin on
51:52
to respond to Pushkin's always welcome on the show. Everybody's welcome on this show.
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