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The Late Debate | 30 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, hello, and welcome to the show. I'm Dankai Georgio.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight join bite, Kayla Bond and Joe hilde Brand. Could
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  Speaker 2: be Thursday to both of you.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the room, We'll not quite We're
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  Speaker 3: still got Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Just a little plug for both of.
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  Speaker 3: Us there, that's right. And then I am straight off
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  Speaker 3: to Warna Bull for the races next week, So I'll
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  Speaker 3: be out of here for a little while and I'll
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  Speaker 3: be enjoying myself watching excellent jumps, racing and drinking excellent wine.
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  Speaker 4: So you're saying you're not going to be watching the
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  Speaker 4: late debate next week?
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  Speaker 3: Oh look, I may do, but I may be a
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  Speaker 3: few subets in, but you might get interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, well we'll miss you next week.
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  Speaker 2: Won't they joint when comes with his with his.
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  Speaker 3: Whole album We Stay in Port Fear you know, the
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  Speaker 3: slightly nice a risk.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, of course he does.
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  Speaker 2: He call his keys import Ferry after it doesn't need
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  Speaker 2: typical Caleb Orr.
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  Speaker 4: I'm coming up tonight in.
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  Speaker 2: Sickness and in help why married people are less likely
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  Speaker 2: to develop cancer? The Green Dream claims another victim, the
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  Speaker 2: UK government is looking to ban traditional tumble dryers as
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  Speaker 2: part of its net zero zelotry. And a landlord takes
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  Speaker 2: sixty dollars out of a tenant's bond.
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  Speaker 4: Why for cobwebs would you believe? Unbelievable?
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  Speaker 2: But first tonight, this is where the justice system fails
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  Speaker 2: time and time again. Two women accused of vandalizing a
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne RSL on Anzac Day have been hit with further
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  Speaker 2: charges after police allege they also targeted eight second RSL.
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  Speaker 2: Now the pair are accused of spray painting the Heidelberg
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  Speaker 2: and Reservoir RSLs with the messages death to the adf F,
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  Speaker 2: the ANZACs, kill the troops, Gallipoli, do it again and
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  Speaker 2: death to Australia. Now, despite the fresh charges, the women,
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  Speaker 2: age twenty and twenty two, have been bailed.
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  Speaker 4: Now I would ask the question why why have they
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  Speaker 4: been bailed?
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  Speaker 2: Three AW was reporting this afternoon that the women are
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  Speaker 2: members of a pro Palestine protest group. That tells you
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  Speaker 2: everything you need to know. But the question is do
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  Speaker 2: we want people who disrespect our values, disrespect our way
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  Speaker 2: of life, disrespect public property like this, and of course
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  Speaker 2: disrespect our ANZACs to learn a lesson or not, because
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  Speaker 2: this was clearly deliberate on a day where veterans and
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  Speaker 2: their family gather.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm actually really I.
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  Speaker 2: Find this very very offensive to be honest as an
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  Speaker 2: Australian when you're calling death to Australians, death to the
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  Speaker 2: adf as in our forces, the people who do the
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  Speaker 2: very job in keeping this very great country of ours safe.
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  Speaker 2: And it goes back to the justice system again not
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  Speaker 2: proving any having any accountability for this mess. Also note
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  Speaker 2: that talkback callers were ringing in three aw this afternoon saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: we need to be able to name and shame them
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  Speaker 2: and that might stop them from doing this again. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with that. I think we have to
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  Speaker 2: name and shame these perpetrators, but I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: that's going to stop them. I think it comes down
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  Speaker 2: to the legal system saying no, you've done this. I'm
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  Speaker 2: glad that there have been charges laid, but they can't
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  Speaker 2: be bailed.
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  Speaker 4: And you know Jess Wilson a couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Weeks ago, Caleb, you might remember she said ten years
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  Speaker 2: in jail for anyone found to be defacing monuments or
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  Speaker 2: any of these memorials like this, or pay up. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that that is absolutely fair enough because there
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  Speaker 2: have been dozens upon dozens of defacing over the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of years, since twenty twenty, and not one charge
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  Speaker 2: has been laid, not one charge.
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  Speaker 4: When are we going to put some accountability in place.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they'll be named and shamed when the court process
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  Speaker 3: goes goes through as it should, and it will make
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  Speaker 3: a decision on whether or not these two women are
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  Speaker 3: guilty or not. But it should be in a completely
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  Speaker 3: different category to any other kind of vandalism. Right So
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  Speaker 3: at the moment, I'm sure the reason you get bail
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  Speaker 3: is because they go, well, it's a nonviolent crime. It's
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  Speaker 3: on the lower end of the criminal scale. We don't
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  Speaker 3: think you're a risk of doing anything harmful to another person,
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  Speaker 3: So we're not going to use up a jail cell
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  Speaker 3: and put you on remand we'll let you go back
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  Speaker 3: into the community. But as far as I'm concerned, or
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  Speaker 3: by the way I should mention for the good people
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  Speaker 3: of Reservoir, it's reservoir to the locals, they'll get upset
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  Speaker 3: about that, But to going back to my point, it
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  Speaker 3: should be a completely different offense, and it should be
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  Speaker 3: treated with great seriousness, because if you are willing to
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  Speaker 3: deface an RSL or an ANZAC monument or any other
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  Speaker 3: kind of war monument, if you're willing to put up
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  Speaker 3: graffiti that sees death to the ad F and you know,
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  Speaker 3: kill the troops f the ANZACs, all this sort of business,
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  Speaker 3: and that, as far as I'm concerned, is tantamount to treason.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what you are doing is fighting against your
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  Speaker 3: own country. You're calling for the downfall of the people
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  Speaker 3: who protect your country and the protection of your own country.
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  Speaker 3: And if that's what you believe, and you are willing
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  Speaker 3: to deface sacred places on one of our most sacred
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  Speaker 3: days in this country, I mean, you know, I know
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  Speaker 3: we legally can't do it, unfortunately, but you know we
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  Speaker 3: should have some sort of recourse to take your citizenship
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  Speaker 3: away or something. I know we can't do that because
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  Speaker 3: then you'd render a person stateless and you get into
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  Speaker 3: trouble for doing that. But you know, I lock them
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  Speaker 3: up forever, I don't care. And that is seditious behavior
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  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned. And you don't belong in
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  Speaker 3: Australian society. If that's what you think, and that is
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  Speaker 3: how you behave you've broken the social contract. Either get
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  Speaker 3: on a plane and go somewhere else, or languish in
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  Speaker 3: a jail cell forever.
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  Speaker 5: Or go to Palestine if it's so appropriate, exactly become
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  Speaker 5: a fighter, so tough, so tough that you can, you know,
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  Speaker 5: spray paint RSLs on the cover of darkness. Well, why
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  Speaker 5: don't you go and show you military acumen overseas. I think,
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  Speaker 5: firstly well done, because I think the biggest takeout message
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  Speaker 5: is it's reservoir. And if you pronounce reservoir, reservoir and
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  Speaker 5: this actually I think could be the could be the
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  Speaker 5: sort of summary punishment for these people. They actually have
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  Speaker 5: to go back to the reservoir. RSL call it reservoir
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  Speaker 5: in front of a sort of end angry locals. I'm
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  Speaker 5: imagining kitchfox and tortures and you know, and then just
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  Speaker 5: see how long they last. But again, it's not even
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  Speaker 5: to be honest, it's not even the sort of prison
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  Speaker 5: sense or whatever at the other end of this. And
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  Speaker 5: of course I have no problem with locking people up,
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  Speaker 5: and I think you're right there should be a special
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  Speaker 5: category like there is, for example, assault, there's a special
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  Speaker 5: category of assault if you assault a frontline worker, like
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  Speaker 5: a police officer. Obviously that's far more treated, far more
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  Speaker 5: seriously than just assaulting a normal human being, as it
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  Speaker 5: should be a civilian. But I mean, the real problem
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  Speaker 5: is that these people think this sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of stuff in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: They are so absolutely bonkers and twisted in their thinking
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  Speaker 5: that they that they sort of they don't understand the
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  Speaker 5: history obviously. I mean, if you look at for example,
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  Speaker 5: Anzac Day celebrating a glippery, the diggers were going there
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  Speaker 5: to liberate these nations from the Ottoman Empire, and that
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  Speaker 5: was because the Ottoman Empire, when faced with a choice
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  Speaker 5: between entering World War One on the side of the
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  Speaker 5: Allies or on the side of the crazy German Kaiser,
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  Speaker 5: decided that it would pick the Kaiser and go in
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  Speaker 5: to going to the war on behalf of Germans who
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  Speaker 5: were committing the most horrendous atrocities already. So that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it just sort of tells you how there's no kind
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  Speaker 5: of fixed point in history where I can say, all right, no,
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  Speaker 5: this is Palestinian Land, and you know, anyone who takes
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  Speaker 5: away from it. It's a terrible, dirty, rotten colonizer what
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  Speaker 5: was Turkish Land, because when over there, it wasn't Palestine
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  Speaker 5: at all, and that's how British Palestine came to be,
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  Speaker 5: and that's how they got the mandate to give it
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  Speaker 5: to Israel or the Jewish people in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: So they're completely ignorant of history. They don't actually know
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  Speaker 5: what they're talking about. And again, when you have you know,
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  Speaker 5: death death to the adf, we where does that come from?
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  Speaker 5: That of course comes from the chant with death to
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  Speaker 5: the idef.
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  Speaker 1: Which is popularized by you know, the.
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  Speaker 5: Douchebag at Glastonbury who decided, we've got a brand new
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  Speaker 5: We've got a brand new chant kids. And again it's
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  Speaker 5: this idea and I keep talking about it, and it's
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  Speaker 5: not to trivialize it. It makes it even more sinister
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  Speaker 5: and kind of endemic. But the problem with you know,
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  Speaker 5: all the pro Palestine stuff is not.
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  Speaker 1: That it's legal, it's that it's cool.
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  Speaker 5: This is just the next cause to sure, this is
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  Speaker 5: the next thing that all the kids are doing. And
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  Speaker 5: so they go there and they do all this dumb stuff.
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  Speaker 5: They say all these dumb things without knowing what it
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  Speaker 5: actually means without having any idea of the history behind
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  Speaker 5: it or the repercussions of what they're actually doing it.
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  Speaker 5: And so you've got all these useful, useful idiots who
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  Speaker 5: are basically vandalizing history, vandalizing their nationhood, vandalizing their their
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  Speaker 5: national sort of soul, and also inciting violence and possibly
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  Speaker 5: even too stupid to know it. And that's what I
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  Speaker 5: find so depressing, because you can lock these people up
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  Speaker 5: and there'll still be a whole bunch of others.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, Look, to make a really good point, I totally
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  Speaker 2: agree with you, but you know, we have to start
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  Speaker 2: setting some boundaries. And I think the first, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to stop giving these people bail.
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  Speaker 4: And I understand your point, Caleb.
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  Speaker 2: They think, okay, well it's a low lying offense, fine,
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  Speaker 2: but it goes beyond that, because that is an attack
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  Speaker 2: on our values. And I think you've just got to
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  Speaker 2: start setting the standard and setting some accountability.
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  Speaker 4: Otherwise these useful idiots to put.
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  Speaker 2: Into your term, are going to keep doing this over
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  Speaker 2: and over again. Pretty sure they don't understand, they don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Go and give this a crack in Gaza. If you
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  Speaker 2: want love to see you give it a go, but
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  Speaker 2: this is an assault on our values. And you know
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  Speaker 2: that they're young women twenty and twenty two. I would
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  Speaker 2: ask them the question, do you understand what our values are?
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  Speaker 2: Do you love this country? Because this to me does
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  Speaker 2: not seem like they.
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  Speaker 1: Do, And also ask them the question what are your pronouns?
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  Speaker 4: And what are your pronouns?
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I say that it needs to be
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  Speaker 3: a much heavier crime. It should be a completely different category,
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  Speaker 3: and it should be treated in a completely different category.
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  Speaker 3: But of course, you know, this is the sort of
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  Speaker 3: stuff that goes on in the People's Socialist Republic of Victoria,
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  Speaker 3: speaking of which, one of the other problems they are
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  Speaker 3: beset with is ramp of crime and spirit thought for
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  Speaker 3: the poor business owners who are simply trying to earn
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  Speaker 3: a buck in Melbourne and increasingly finding that it's difficult
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  Speaker 3: to do so, certainly without being abused and threatened and whatever,
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  Speaker 3: facing violence daily from drag addled people who are getting
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  Speaker 3: around the Melbourne CBD. Case in point, Amre Morcos, who
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  Speaker 3: set up just a few months ago in January, his
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  Speaker 3: shop Pizza the Kansa on Burke Street in Melbourne, just
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  Speaker 3: down the road to about one hundred and fifty odd
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  Speaker 3: meters from State Parliament. But he says he can't hack
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  Speaker 3: it anymore because he has to deal with these half
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  Speaker 3: wits who keep going to his shop. The Herald Sun
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  Speaker 3: reports it today. Mister Morcos, who only opened his Burke
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  Speaker 3: Street store in January, said there was no sense to
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  Speaker 3: keep going under the pressure of daily abuse and violence
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  Speaker 3: from drunk and drug affected people in the CBD. He
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  Speaker 3: said people would touch and steal food from the Bay Marie,
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  Speaker 3: they would spit in his face, smoke and inject drugs
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  Speaker 3: on his doorstep. The Herald Sun ranch that mister Morcos
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  Speaker 3: recently chased a thief and suffered a broken finger as
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  Speaker 3: a result. He then had a drug affected person enter
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  Speaker 3: his store and throw a jar of coffee beans at
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  Speaker 3: the wall for no reason. He said his dream to
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  Speaker 3: own a store in Melbourne was over. Quote, it's finished.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take my luggage and go back to Europe because
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense. I've decided to give up. I
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  Speaker 3: can't keep going. I mean, that is the state of
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  Speaker 3: Melbourne now where a bloke's just trying to make a
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  Speaker 3: go of it, and within four months he said, I
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  Speaker 3: can't do it. I keep having to deal with these drunken,
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  Speaker 3: dragaddled people who come into my shop, who throw things
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  Speaker 3: at me, who spit at my staff, who they get
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  Speaker 3: into fights and whatever in the midst of all of this,
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  Speaker 3: and they're bleeding and then they're touching the food, So
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  Speaker 3: then he's going to tuck all of that food out.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He tries to chase them out of the stories, breaking
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  Speaker 3: his finger, and now he's going to go back to Europe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how sad is that you'd expect to see
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  Speaker 3: this in the third world. In fact, you'd expect to
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  Speaker 3: see it in some parts of Europe at the moment,
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  Speaker 3: to be perfectly honest. But he'd rather go back there
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  Speaker 3: than deal with this in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what does that say about Melbourne? And what
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  Speaker 2: does it say about the state of Melbourne. Yet we
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  Speaker 2: keep hearing this from justinto.
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  Speaker 4: Allan Lburn's CBD is safe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I ask business owners like this just into Alan
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  Speaker 2: whether they think that Melbourne CBD is safe. Ninety percent
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  Speaker 2: of employees now in Melbourne actually fear.
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  Speaker 4: For their safety.
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  Speaker 2: And when you think about it, it's a culmination of
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  Speaker 2: multiple things. So crime's clearly out of control. In the CBD.
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  Speaker 2: You've also got weekly protests shutting down the CBD. What
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  Speaker 2: hope do business owners have right now? Plus they're still
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  Speaker 2: dealing with the fallout from the COVID pandemic.
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  Speaker 4: You've got to feel sorry for employers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're trying to make a buck here and
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  Speaker 2: they're being absolutely persecuted by crime on a weekly basis.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not just the Alan government, because let's be honest,
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  Speaker 2: they've been completely late to the party when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to their adult crime adult time laws. They were dragged,
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  Speaker 2: kicking and screaming into doing this, and their whole big
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  Speaker 2: stick was, oh well, it's all right, we've got the
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  Speaker 2: machete bins that should solve every single crime in this state.
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  Speaker 2: But again, it comes down to justice system, because it's
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  Speaker 2: a slap on the wrist. The cycle of crime continues
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  Speaker 2: and these absolute lunatics are back out on the streets again,
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  Speaker 2: so that there are a myriad of problems.
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  Speaker 4: But gee, the fact that he's.
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  Speaker 2: Got blood being splattened in his restaurantic, the blog that
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to sell pizzas. You've got drunken buffoons at
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  Speaker 2: the doorstep, drunk and drugged off their faces, it'd be
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  Speaker 2: very hard to make a living right now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got to say the whole joint's gone downhill
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  Speaker 5: ever since I left.
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  Speaker 3: But that was had I left too.
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  Speaker 5: And look, I can tell you, I mean, I grew
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  Speaker 5: up in a pretty rough and roughest Caut's part of
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  Speaker 5: Melbourne and did have a very high crime rate. But
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  Speaker 5: the areas that are now being affected were just you know,
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  Speaker 5: you could, you know, the proverbiala naked woman could walk,
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  Speaker 5: you know, with a golden apple on her head, as
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  Speaker 5: they used to say of the Mongolian Empire, from end
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  Speaker 5: to end. And you know, a place like Tuak, a
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  Speaker 5: place like you know, a place like South Yarraw all
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  Speaker 5: these really ritzy, ritzy sort of inner suburbs, the leafy
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  Speaker 5: sort of liberal belt. These you know, the idea that
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  Speaker 5: you would have you know, Chapel Street, South Yarra as
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  Speaker 5: a hotbed of crime would have been just absolutely unthinkable
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  Speaker 5: just a decade or two ago.
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  Speaker 1: And now you know you have this thing.
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  Speaker 5: And strangely enough, even though it's meant to be a
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  Speaker 5: labor government, often when you had these these crimes out
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  Speaker 5: in the poor working class suburbs of the southeast or
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  Speaker 5: the West, or the north.
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  Speaker 1: You know that was sort of ignored.
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  Speaker 5: But suddenly when it hits the ritzy suburbs and their
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  Speaker 5: car jacking, you know, nice nice fancy to Iraq tractors
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  Speaker 5: instead of the usual stuff in the outer suburbs, Suddenly
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  Speaker 5: then there's this panic and suddenly the government's paying attention.
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  Speaker 5: I mean again, there was you know, even in Northcote
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  Speaker 5: and the Northland shopping Center that's been subjected to.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy amounts of crime.
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  Speaker 5: Now that is you know, green hippie affluent, you know,
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  Speaker 5: upper middle class tertiary educator.
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  Speaker 3: It was that attack at Northern Shopping Center that basically
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  Speaker 3: led to the mashette bits.
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  Speaker 4: Right, was this the one where they were throwing the chairs?
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  Speaker 4: Which one was this one?
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  Speaker 1: There was? There was?
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  Speaker 5: There was, Yeah, I know, there's so many of them
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  Speaker 5: attack it was a car park, I think, yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: they'd run through the shopping center.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, as you said, there's been so many of them.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean you mentioned as well the workers feeling unsafe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so Cocoa Black, which is a chocolate shop, right,
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  Speaker 3: and you wouldn't think of a chocolate shop as being
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  Speaker 3: the sort of place that would be like really under
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  Speaker 3: threat from these violent criminals. But Coco Black and opposite
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  Speaker 3: the town Hall last year had to get private security
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: because they were dealing with violent people all the time
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: walking past the store and carrying on and remonstrating with
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: staff coming in ordering coffees, refusing to pay for them
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: and getting violent and all this sort of thing.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: If you're on I you don't need a coffee.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: No exactly a hot side. And there was a survey
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: done last year about the Melbourne City Council that found
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I think it was about three quarters of residents don't
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: feel safe in the city at night, and there was
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: a significant number as well said they didn't feel safe
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: during the day. I mean, it's so sad to think
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: of how far Melbourne has fallen, because it is a
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: great city and it deserves so much better than this,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: and that's why people are leaving. It's why people like
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: mister Morcosts are leaving because they just can't hack it
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: any well.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: It's no longer one of the most Liverpool cities in
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: the world. You just you can't.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: So someone will keep voting for I think Melbournis vote
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: for their own cities.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: They look maybe, but I think you know, it is ridiculous.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: We'll see what happens at the election. We'll see what
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: happens at the election where the people actually are genuinely
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: serious about about change.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Very interesting because often you get all these people who
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: you know, grumble and sail this stuff, but then they
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: just go and vote and they do it anyway.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: So institutionally, absolutely, it's unions. It's always been in Union state,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: and that is that is the exact problem.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Right to get in there.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Well, you've got to November.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: See what happens. Let's see what happens. Now, let's talk
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: about the flow tiller. You know, the doomed Goblin flow tiller,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: the one that Greta tried to sail into Gaza many
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: many times.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Look, it's had a few setbacks in recent weeks.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: First, one of the senior crew members on board was
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: ejected because he was accused of having sex with three women.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: You can't make this stuff up. The boat was rocking.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: If it was just who would have been.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know how the three different women are out
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: of here.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I wonder if the women knew that that that this
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: guy was apparently you know, all of them. So Secondly,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: disaster number two for the flow tiller. Greta and her
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: boyfriend opted not to go on this year because of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the sex allegations. She's decided, So that's basically they've lost
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: their star recruit. She said, no, there's too much sex
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: on board. I'm not taking part in it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And now thirdly another disaster. It has already been intercepted.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Would you believe in fact four Ozzi's attempting to break
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Israel's nineteen year land and sea blockade to deliver the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: aid to Gaza. They've been intercepted by Israel in international waters.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: They've actually been intercepted. This is some of the vision.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: West of the Greek island of Crete, quite far away
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: from the destination. The Israel Defense forces boarded the vessel
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: carrying the OSSI's as well as others after a warship
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: launched an inflatable tactical boat for inception.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: But have a listen to this.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: This is twenty two year old law student Ethan Floyd.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: He is having a real hard time after the interception.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Have a look.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: My name is Ethan Floyd and I'm an Australian citizen.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: If you're watching this, it means that the civilian aid
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: flotilla that I'm a part of has been illegally intercepted
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: in international waters by Israel. I have been kidnapped by
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: the Israeli defense forces and taken to Israel against my
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: will alongside other Australians.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Ethan. It kind of reminds me a little bit of
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: when Greta. I remember the last time this happened in Greta.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Literally there arose to repeat when Greta said, I have
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: been kidnapped against my will?
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: How dare you?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: But look, this is just another disaster. I don't know
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: why they keep bothering to me. This is nothing more
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: than a pr stunt. They're not being serious, right if
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: they're all bonking on board Greta's not even on this one.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: There's been drugs found, there's been condoms found. They've also
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: been vision's.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Vision that's been delivery.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't seem appropriate to me if there. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: then the other thing is they carry on about this,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: this genocide. I mean, come on, they're not faired income
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: in my view, Caleb, they're not feeding about this.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: It's so funny.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Just give it up, give it up, give it fool.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Look clearly it's a fools here and they know that
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Israel is going to do this. I mean they've intercepted them,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you know, some something like a thousand kilometers off the coast,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: and you're.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: On the west side of Crete. You are on the
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: wrong side of creek. Well you're not even on the
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Israel side of creek.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: But I don't know why Israel keeps intercepting them. Just
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: let them go, Let them get to Gaza and do
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: whatever the hell they want to do there. What what what?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: What business is it a of Israel to stop them,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: because I mean, okay, they're going to roll in there
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: with some condoms and some drugs or something. They're not
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: going to do anything of any great note. If they
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: come a cropper in Gaza, who really cares? That's your
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: own fault because you've taken yourself there. By intercepting them,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you kind of hand them the proper Ganda tool that
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: they want. Anyway, because then they put the videos out
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: and they say we've been captured, and they get to
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: say woe is me and whatever. I just don't see
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: anymore what the point is. Just let them go, Let
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: them go in and do whatever the hell they're going
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: to do there, and then get themselves out. Of there,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: of their own volition. What is what is Israel gain
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: from doing it?
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Oh? I disagree, I completely.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: The problem is is that there's this land and sea blockade,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: and I think that they're not doing and I get
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: your point, just let them go ahead and give, you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: whatever happens to them. But they're not doing this for
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: genuine reasons. They are just doing this for p R
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: purposes and to generate the propaganda. But it's the stuff
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: that they're putting out Caleb is wrong. What they're saying
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: about Israel is totally fun.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Propaganda were totally incorrect.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: So they're going to do I.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Just think, no, they deserve to be they deserve to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: be intercepted. I think that they're not actually doing any good,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: any good at.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: All, very only good, I think.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I mean the problem is firstly, if they get to guards,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: they're not going to be letting into Gaza because that
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: or the or the gates are shut anyway. So then
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: they would just become Israel's problem in Israel, and we
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: know that happened and with Greta when she tried it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: They basically I've been held against my will. I've been
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: held against my will, and they just could not get
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: rid of her quick enough. They're like, cook, take your
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: we'll pay for you. Go there, you go, we'll.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Drive into there, but just go go because obviously, if
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: you were stuck in a room with Greta Tilburg, it
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: would be the most annoying, painful experience of your entire life.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: You'd just be sitting there with a sort of scoldy,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: humorous Swedish girl.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I'd have been a good way to stop the sex
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: on the boat. She could have been like.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I think if she just you know, she would or
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: she would hear something and catch someone in flagrante and
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: just go. So I think that is the problem. They
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: want to turn these people around before they become what
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: would inevitably be Israel's.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Why don't you let them in?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you wanted to deliver a humanitarian a,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: why don't you do so through the proper channels instead.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Of delivering aid on a tiny little side.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: This is my point. We know that they're not doing
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: it in good faith, we know that they're not actually
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: going to deliver any real aid, So let them just
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to get a taste of their own mentin. And you
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: want to carry on about how you're taking them aid.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Just let them in there and have a look around them.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: What's the worst, what's the.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Worst that can happen?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Want to get the body out of constructure.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: So what you actually want to do is form a
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: sub branch of Quiz for Palestine in cars, like I
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: would like to say, get a nice little office, get
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: all the material heres and.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Pamphlets you can go and hand out.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: You know, you can have your little bowl of condoms
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: and you know, I put it there and.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: See how that works out for you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: You know, like put a bit of imagination and they
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: don't just sort of throw them over there, and like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: you know, give them.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: The tools to you know, to really apply their craft.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, while we're talking about margrants or people on boats anyway,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: trying to get into places where they are not welcome.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Over in the UK, you would be aware. We've talked
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: about it quite a bit here. They keep having people
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: coming over from France, in particular, they get smuggled into
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: France and then they get on little boats and they
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: float off to the UK and the and the UK
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: puts them up in hotels and all sorts of things
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: like this, and they don't know what to do with them.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: They try to send them to Rwander, and then they
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: couldn't do that, and on and on it goes. Well,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: there's a mob called Schools of Sanctuary and this is
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: an outfit that gets schools and teachers to sign up
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: basically to tell the little kiddies that they should open
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the borders and let all the illegal migrants into their country.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: There are a thousand schools in the UK have signed up
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to this mob. Now, this mob, Schools of Sanctuary, has
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: now sent out a reading list to its member schools.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: So here are a bunch of books that you should
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: get the kiddies to read up on if they want
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: to know what is going on with this illegal migration.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Though I'm sure they wouldn't call it illegal migration. They
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: would call it cultural enrichment. And if you take a
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: look at some of the literature they want these kids
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to read, that's certainly how they're talking about it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: There is one book, for instance, called Kind. Now, this
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: is aimed at children of five years old, and it
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: includes a floatiller of boats that I know, well it's
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: you know, I've got to have lots of them, you see.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And on these boats are cartoon animals, lions and giraffes
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: are depicted coming to visit and.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: They're already done in the Book of Genesis.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Good point, but they say, they say that if kids
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: are told by people, you know, oh, there's no room
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: for the illegal migrants, that the kids should tell people
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: there's plenty of room. Come on in. And on this point,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: it says, after all, if you don't let people in,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you'll never know what you're missing. I mean, isn't that good.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: You know you've got to know what you're missing, don't you.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: It goes on to say, in this book, sometimes people
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: have lived through very hard times. They've had to leave
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: their homes and their countries because of danger. They are
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: brave and amazing and have extraordinary stories to tell. How
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: can you welcome them? Can you share your toys with them?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So bad?
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Because you know it's terrible.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: After all, if you don't let people in, you'll never
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: know what you'r The kiddies have to share their toys
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: with the illegal toys with each other, I know exactly.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, good, good grief, trying to share. Imagine trying
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: to get them to share them with lines and giraffes
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: that have floated over on some little boats from France.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Lions and tigers and bears, oh my.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And then there's another book called Bobble. Now Bobble is
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: some blue creature. Apparently he also is getting about on
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: a small boat. And it says in this Bobble book,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: finally he made it. He washed up onto land. Bobble
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: lay there for a while, just playing in the sand.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: He sadly wasn't ready for the welcome he'd received. The
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: others stopped there dancing, but they didn't say hello. They
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: didn't want to welcome him. They wanted him to go.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: There's no room for you here with us. You'll have
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: to try elsewhere. Travel to the next island and ask
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: if there's space there. How evil are.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Rhyme?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: At least it's so elis really so? I mean, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: want to know about these thousand schools that have signed up,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you know, schools of sanctuary mob But the kids are
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: having their minds infected with this business, basically being told
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: letting all the migrants, because well, if you don't let
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: the illegal margrants in, you won't know what you're missing.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Well I don't know about you, but I was told
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: as a child don't speak to strangers, and yet here
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: We've got kids being encouraged to share their toys with strangers.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, go figure that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: And let's not forget that a lot of these migrants
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: have been let into this country and then they've gone
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: on to commit rapes.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Sexual assaults are the violent.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Acts I don't think, well, kids have I'm not talking.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: To kids, Joe, where did you get that from?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: But they're talking about this is I'm talking about.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: The migrants that have been let into the countries, are
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: legal migrants.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is for kids coming into the country.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Well, if you let me finish my point, I might yeah, Okay.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: The point I was trying to make is is that
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of these kids, we shouldn't be saying to kids,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: these migrants are absolutely fantastic.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Share your toys with them, you know, have a little
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: chat with them.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: When as I was going to go on to say,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of these migrants have gone on to commit
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: sexual assaults, rapes and other violent acts, we should not
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: be encouraging children to think that every single illegal migrant
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that is in the country right now is fantastic. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: think it is brainwashing children, and I think it's actually
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: very very.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Concerning as well.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And they even said here that children as young as five,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: children as young as five are being targeted, and I
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: also that that line. I think you may have read it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: After all, if you don't let people in, you'll never
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: know what you're missing. Well, I think we know what's
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: going on in that country, and it's clear, very clear
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: that UK Labor has no control over it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I think Bubble needs to get to a hospital pretty
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: quick because I'm pretty sure having that blue round head
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: and their tiny little ears that stick up like the
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: little inflatable balloon guy outside of used cast slot, I
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: don't think that's.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that checked out.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: It's like kids, you know, if you are going to
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: talk to strangers, don't talk to the blue ones.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Don't talk to strangers full stop. That's the danger. Don't
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: talk to you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: They're talking about kids.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: When they're talking about sharing their toys, they're not talking
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: about sharing the toys with that.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: They're talking about other asylum secret kids.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's just don't talk strangers. But if you
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: don't know them, don't talk.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: But that's not what you say to kids about other
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: kids about It doesn't.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Matter, it doesn't bad.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: A point of these kids basically being having books put
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: in front of them by active as teachers telling them
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: that you know, the legal migration is okay. I mean
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: you don't send your kid off to school to receive
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: that lecture, surely.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think. I think, well, you're not meant
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to have any sort of partisan politics in the classroom.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Have this mob Schools of Sanctuary allowed to operate with
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: a thousand thousands?
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because they do it with the same thing over there.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: There would have been out of school organization that would come in.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: It wouldn't necessarily be part of the actual school curriculum,
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: or the actual teacher would be someone who would come
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: in and have a little talk, or someone would write
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: the book and blah blah blah blah, and that's how
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: they get around all those things.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: So anyway, anyway, I just want to make points.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Well, let's start stay in the UK now, the green
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: dream has claimed yet another victim. This time the Humble
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Tumble dryer is being targeted by UK Labor. They want
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to ban them as part of their net zero policy.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: So currently it's a traditional dryer. It uses a heating
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: element to warm air, which passes through your clothes and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: removes moisture that moisture is then condensed into water and
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: collected in a reservoir before being drained away. But UK
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Labor wants to replace it with a heat pump dryer.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Which works a little bit differently.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: The problem with the heat pump dryer is it will
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: cost you about forty pounds extra. If you want a
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: premium it will cost you about sixteen hundred pounds extra.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It takes about half an hour additionally to try and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: dry your clothes, and by the way, it doesn't work
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: well in cold environments, but apparently that is the future
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: under the net zero policy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: The other issue is the noise. Have a listen. It
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: sounds like an absolute tractor.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I know that Caleb you u's one of these these
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: of the past, so keen to get your thoughts, but
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, we're in the middle of a cost
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: of living crisis and this is the priority of the
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: UK government. Some have described this as very as Soviet
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: era type of dictatorship of policy, because it is.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Whatever happened to personal choice.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: It's like what we're having here in Australia where there's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this big push to go from gas to electric.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: The problem with electric is it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Does actually take a longer time to heat up your
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: food than what the gas cooker does. How about you
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: just let people have personal choice instead of just sending
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: us on this bizarre renewables only into the never never
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: where people now have to spend more money.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: It's got to cost more. It's slower to do so
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: it doesn't work in cold environments.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see someone cook a proper Chinese
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: meal on a gas walk. I'm sorry, on an electric walk.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: It's not possible. You need the gas. But these heat
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: pumped table jobs I have used, I don't own one.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: We have used one, and they half an hour, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you said half an hour, jeez, that it'd be nice.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: They are awful. They take forever you put a full
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: load of now long I know, I know, half, No longer,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: it's much more than half. How longer you put a
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: full load of washing in there? It takes forever to
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: bloody dry your clothes, and it like it pumps, the
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: gets the water out of the clothes. Then it puts
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: it in some bloody tank and you've got to take
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: this thing out and you got to empty the water out.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: It's a load of garbage. It doesn't work properly, and
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I know, they keep saying, we'll do all these things
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: to help the environment, but they keep asking us to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: use products that are worse than the ones we had before. Now,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I know they argue that the ones we have at
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: the moment are worse for the environment, but they're effectively
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: asking us as a society in so many cases, to regress.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, forever we've been progressing and finding
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: ways to do things more efficiently and faster, and now
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: we're saying, no, actually, we've got to go backwards. We've
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: got to do things slower. We have to regress. As
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: a society. Who cares about you know, the human race
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: moving forward anymore, We've got to go backwards to allegedly
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: save the environment.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Bagger it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: What's the point. There's no point continuing if we're just
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: going to have to give up every bit of innovation
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: we've ever achieved.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, even I find it with a big family and
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: be loaded. Washing even like the normal dryer takes ages
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: and ages, and so we like my well, let's just
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: say my wife actually puts just half the load of
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: the washing machine in the dryer at it at the
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: time and does two loads because she says that it
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't dry it properly. And I said to her, said,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: you know, you can actually just put it on for
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: twice as long.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Anyway you would not now.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't be loading the tumble dryer. Would you have
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: to leave that time in your house?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Do load the tumble dryer. It's just that when I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: do it, I do it still properly correctly.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's always like this half. But again, but
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: if you've got a big light of washing, it actually
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: takes like even a full on normal tumble dryer takes
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: ages to do it. And if you've got a kid
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: who's jumping up and down and screaming at you because
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: their soccer year is not ready, or because their favorite
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: hat is still in the wash or whatever, I'm pretty
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: sure the heat pump is I mean, you're going to
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: get the heat, and you're going to get pumped.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: We'll just make it worse in the name of the environment.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I just I can't believe we keep having to deal
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: with this stuff, and very quickly before we get to
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: a break. Apparently, if you're married, you'll cancer risk plummets.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: This is from a new study by the University of
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Miami Miller School of medicine, and to quote the UK
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Telegraph today, they report that men who were never married
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: are about seventy percent more likely to develop cancer than
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: married men, while unmarried women increase their cancer risk by
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: eighty five percent. Now they do say that this is
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: not they're not telling you that this is a prescription
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: to marry, and they don't entirely no, thank you for
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: reading the entirely know why this is the case. But
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: you know, it would seem to indict I would imagine
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: that married people generally are happier, they're more contented, they're
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: better off in life, they probably have their finances in
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: order better than single people, et cetera. Peo would seem
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: to make sense that it would reduce your cancer risk.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: So then you go, maybe it is a prescription to.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Many sickness and in health. Sickness and in health.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's lovely because you check up on your partner,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you check up on them.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: And you keep each other in check.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely get married to save yourself.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Marrige's good for you live longer, you are more likely
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: to be better off, more likely to be employed, you're
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: more likely to be healthy.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: It's a situation when you're wrong, they're married.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: There you go, that is a motto out of all this.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick break.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Coming up, we're going to see how the front pages
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: are covering that awful story up in the Northern Territory,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the little five year old girl found dead as search
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: for the purpose trade at continues.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: That's next.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: We just got some breaking news in the man that
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory Police were looking for in relation to
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the alleged abduction and murder of the little five year
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: old girl has indeed been arrested. We're hearing this just
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: coming through now from Northern Territory Police. Of course, the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: body of the five year old Alice Springs girl was
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: found on Thursday, But just repeating that breaking news that
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: this man has since been arrested and we will try
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: and get more for you later. We are looking to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: speak to our correspondent Matt Cunningham up there. But of course,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just an absolutely shocking story. This
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Jefferson Lewis, has spent about five days now on the run.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: But the forty seven year old, according to the Northern
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Territory Police. I'm just reading from the Northern Territory News
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: website here that they captured him after he was last
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: seen walking with the little girl on Anzac Day. It's
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: just look, I mean, this is just so sad. This
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: is a story obviously that has really captured the heart
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of the nation. Nobody ever expected an outcome like this.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you say to it? It's just
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: it is just unfathomable.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Caleb, Yeah, And I mean a lot of the papers
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: are running with it tomorrow, and I think that the
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Advertiser probably put it pretty well when they head on
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: they do have on the front of their paper tomorrow
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: stolen by a monster. What more can you say? I mean, look,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: there's a lot more you can say, and I'll probably
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: say it tomorrow night. But to think that you have
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: a situation in this country where a five year old
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: girl can be taken and murdered in the middle of
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: the night. The details, You know that they've they've found
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: DNA in clothing, they have found she was five kilometers
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: from the town camp where she had been living. You
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: know that this is not the first time we've seen
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: cases like this in the Northern Territory. How many times
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: do things like this need to happen in Indigenous communities
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: before someone stands up and says enough is enough. This
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: has to stop. Because I'm just I am so angry
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: about this, and I'm normally pretty levelheaded, but it just
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: makes me so damn angry that these things, you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the living conditions in these town camps, and you saw
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: last night just int a Nampa, Jim Price, who is
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: the auntie of this little girl, talking to Sharry Markson
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: about this and saying, you know, these town camps shouldn't exist.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't want my kids in there. And yet somehow
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: as a country, we just kind of turn a blind
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: eye and say, well, out of sight, out of mind,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: and then we get to situations like this. It is
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: a national disgrace.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Sorry, am, I'm just going to hop in there. I
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: just want to bring this to your attention.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Just having a look at the Australian website, there's an
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: exclusive there by Paige Taylor.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: And Leam Mendez.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: They are reporting right now that a vigilante group was
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: responsible for tracking down this man. It says that this
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: vigilante group tracked down and beat him. Jefferson Lewis was
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: found at Charles Creek Camp by a group of vigilantes
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: who allegedly bashed him before calling police. It says that
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Jefferson Lewis was rushed to Alice Springs Whole Hospital under
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: police escort late on Thursday night. He arrived at hospital
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: before ten pm. A crowd of more than a hundred
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: had gathered outside of that hospital and were throwing rocks.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Of course, it comes just hours after police confirmed, of
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: course that she had died. Sorry, Joe, but I'm to
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: just let our viewers know that we according to The
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Australian that it was a vigilante group that was involved
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: in this.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: It's I think anyone who's had anything to do with
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Alice Springs over the past few years knows that it
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: has become basically this kind of wild West frontier town
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: in some ways. In many ways, perhaps it's sort of
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: always had that character. But I know when I you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: I went there for a documentary series, visited some of
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: these town camps where they had the most beautiful kids,
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: and you know, I went on the school bus that
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: was sent around to pick up these kids and take
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: them to the local school where they would often need
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: to be fed breakfast because they hadn't had breakfast at
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: their homes. The school bus was sent around to each
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: home individually to pick up every single kid because they
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: couldn't always trust their parents to get them to school.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Otherwise you would see I remember one house.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: It was just heartbreaking.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: There's a beautiful little girl, picked her up, took it
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: to school, and her big brother was there at the
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: house at the home at about seven thirty or eight
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning, absolutely drunk out of his bombed
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: out of his mind. Obviously, there was an incident where
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: we were attacked and had rocks thrown at us while
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: we were interviewing some people, and another group of people
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: came and started throwing rocks at us. I spoke to
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: other people, both on and off the record about what
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: life was like there. One of the complaints was that
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: there was one day they weren't allowed to buy beer,
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: and you just sort of think, this is this is
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: not this is not a first world notion. This is
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: not anything that should be happening or allowed to happen
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: in Australia. My wife worked for many, many years for
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: a news agency in the Northern Territory, and again the
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: things that she saw, the sexual assaults and not just
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: the number of them, but the nature of them, I mean,
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: just the most horrible stuff which I can't repair here,
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: and I think, in many ways the most revealing. I mean,
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: you know, we have plenty of plenty of non indigenous
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: monsters as well.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Who do horrible, horrible, horrible.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Things to kids. That's by no means unique. But I
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: think the illuminating thing is the conditions that this poor
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: little girl was living in before the most horrendous thing
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: happened to her.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It was no place for a kid to be living.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And again, and this is not.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: I know, anyone who's worked in this space or reported
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: on this sort of stuff knows that that is not
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: an outlier. We know that these are the conditions that
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: all these kids grow up in. And you meet them
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: and you thought the most beautiful, hope filled, wonderful little children.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: And if you let them continue in that environment and
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: don't give them the education, don't give them the hype,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: don't give them the love, then they will end up
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: like you know, that little girl's big brother when they're teenagers,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: and then we all know what happens.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Up that well.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I remember, back in twenty eighteen, there was that case
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: of a toddler being raped as well.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Up.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been there there is there has been a lot.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: There has been a lot, There've been Okay, there's you know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: and again it's it's unbearable to think about, but you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: you have but.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: It's sorry, sorry to interrupt.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: We're just gonna this is a live shot that's coming
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: up coming into us from the newsroom.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Now I believe this is outside of the hospital.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: And shortly we will shortly we.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Will go to Matt Cunningham, our reporter up on the scene.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: But obviously there is quite a heavy police presence there.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of yelling, there's a lot of screaming.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: People are obviously very very upset in the town. You
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: can understand something like this, you just it is completely unfathomable.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: As I said earlier, the Australian is reporting that it
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: was a vigilante group that were involved in this arrest and.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: That they actually beat this man.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: He was then taken to the hospital, where a crowd
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: has since gathered outside. You could understand the tensions right now,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and you would think that police would be quite worried
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: about this because we have seen in the past a
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: lot of riots up there or you know, again, tensions
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: are very very high.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: In the town at the moment.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: We are going to speak to our correspondent Matt Cunningham soon,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: but I mean you'd be pretty worried right now if
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: you were police, you'd be thinking we're going to have
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: to call for backupretty quickly because things are looking pretty
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: pretty fiery already.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Kaylee, and understand, Actually I'm.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry, We are actually going to go to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Matt Cunningham. He's joining us on the line. Matt, where
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: are you and tell us what's happening, nigger.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: I'm outside the Other Springs hospital.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: And as you can see, there is a huge mob
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: of angry.
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: People who have gathered out here. This is where the
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: league Jefferth from Lewis is now.
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: As you were saying in Australian reporting that there was
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: a vigil anti attack.
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: We haven't had.
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: Confirmation from police that he has been arrested, but I
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: mean it is just wild seeing here. There are interially
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: hundreds of people.
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: Shathered outside the hospital.
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: And they are going they are happy. You can see
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: here there's a group of police who's set up out
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: in the front of the hospital. There are police vehicles,
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: there are several police officers.
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: Out in the front of the hospital, but there are
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: people going, there are people shouting, there.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: Are people who are very unhappy with this situation. I'm
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: really volatile situation going on here at the moment, Danika,
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: and it looks like it's going to continue for some time.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Ah Madam's Caleb. Obviously, as you say, those tensions are
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: flaring out the front of the hospital. Presumably there's are
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: people and who would if they could take revenge against
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: what mister Lewis is accused of doing. What's the police
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: situation like there at the moment is does this look
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: like it's about to kick off? Is it under control?
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: So I think you're asking what the police situation is like, Yeah.
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: I think it's probably about ten or twelve or police
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: office here at the moment the France, But I mean
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: they are out numbered by peasle here, you know, probably
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: you know, thirty forty one.
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: There is a.
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: Massive crowd that has gathered here.
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: Now a lot of the people are just standing back
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: and watching, but there are as you will be able
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: to see there's a group at the front who are
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: really yelling that they're unhappy. It's clear that they want
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: to get their own sort of justice, their own sort.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: Of retribution against the man who you believe is being
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: held in the whole.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Floor of the Money and Maddie, it's Joe here. Do
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: you feel like this angry is all directed at Jefferson
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: Lewis or do you feel there might be some director
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: towards the police or other figures of authority. Do you
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: yourself feel in any way threatened or unsafe or is
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: it just this crowd going after just this man.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: I think there is absolutely one target of their anger,
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: and it is Jefferson Lewis. I mean, I've been standing
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: in the middle of his mob now for ten minutes
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: and I.
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: Do not feel threatened in any way, shape or form.
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: At this stage. They haven't come anywhere of.
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: They probably stay five to ten meters back away from
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: the police. But as you know, in a crowd situation
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: like this, you know, Joe, things can can turn pretty
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: ugly pretty quickly, and there's a lot of emotion happening
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: here at the moment. But to answer your question directly,
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: you know the person that they are directing new anger
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: act is Jefferson Lewis.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Good to know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: As long as you're safe, my friend, Yeah, as long
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: as You're safe, Matt.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Obviously this has only just happened, this arrest that has
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: been made.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Are we expecting it all to hear from police? Matt?
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: What are you hearing?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Can you give us any more information about this arrest?
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: Well, police have just simply put out a two line statement, Daneta,
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: and that simply says that they've made this arrest and
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: that they will start this further tomorrow.
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: So we're not expecting to hear from them tonight.
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: I have been missing a couple of from Belief while
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: I've been on the phone with you, so.
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it is an update to that situation.
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: We are due to talk with the police Commissioner, Martin
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: Goal at seven point thirty tomorrow morning. He's going to
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: be on first Edition with p seven Ovis. But at
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: this stage, other than that two line statement that has
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  Speaker 8: been released, at this stage, we are not expecting checking
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  Speaker 8: from police tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, we'll hear anything further later. And you're waiting to
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: hear more from the police. And as I heard you
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: talking to Peter Kreedlin about this earlier this evening, you
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: know this is not the first time we've seen something
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  Speaker 3: of this nature in the Northern Territory, and you can
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: imagine the anger that those people there that you are
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: seeing tonight must be feeling, because they are feeling let down.
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  Speaker 3: It's not the first time they've seen this. Now they're
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: seeing it again. It's understandable that they are letting their
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: anger out.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Caleb.
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  Speaker 8: I just think it had a bit of an update
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  Speaker 8: on the situation here as well. So we looked out
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  Speaker 8: here that I was standing before, which is where most
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: of the crowd was gathered.
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  Speaker 7: There is a group that have now moved.
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  Speaker 8: Up here closer to police and pretty much face to
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: face with police.
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  Speaker 7: So police are obviously talking to the people here, trying
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: to calm them down as much as they can, but
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: there are a lot of angry people here.
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: And yeah, I would say that this is a situation
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: that's really developing at the moment, and we're seeing out
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: the pretending for things to potentially get out of him.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Have you heard anything, Matt about the circumstances in which
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: he was arrested? Obviously the odds reporting that a mob
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: found him and bashed him before they called police. Do
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: you have any further details on that.
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  Speaker 7: I don't have any further details on that.
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  Speaker 9: I understand that he was a record near the Charles
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  Speaker 9: Breeks Camp on the north side of town, near the
• 52:07
  Speaker 9: north side Ida, and he was arrested at a home there.
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  Speaker 8: So that's on the other side of town to where.
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  Speaker 7: The actually the actual incident took place.
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  Speaker 8: But other than that, I know, I'm aware of those reports, Taylor,
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: but I can't confirm them independently myself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right, well, look this is we see
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: a very volatile situation. Matt Cunningham.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate your reporting. We will be keeping in touch
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: with Matt Cunningham. Later on in the show. We are
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: going to take a quick break, but do stay with us.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Newsnight is next with all the latest information, including Matt
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Cunningham live there from the scene.