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The Kenny Report | 9 June · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me. Tonight,
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Speaker 2: the immigration riots in Los Angeles enter their fourth day.
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Speaker 2: Gretath Unburg and a fellow protest is now in the
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Speaker 2: hands of the Israeli military and they've got a shock
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Speaker 2: in store. Another disgraceful act by our government towards Israeli's
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Speaker 2: I'll cross to Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister Sharon Haskell, the
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Speaker 2: National Awards, Scott Morrison, and the COVID pandemic. I'll give
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Speaker 2: you my take. Also Sophie Elsworth, Gematine Union Caroline dur
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Speaker 2: also to discuss Sir David Beckham, among many other things.
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Speaker 2: Let's get started. So much coming up tonight, but I
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Speaker 2: want to start off in Los Angeles, where it's just
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Speaker 2: turned midnight. After three days of rioting in California in
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Speaker 2: response to the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigrants, there's
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Speaker 2: been violence on the streets, cars set alight, police use
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Speaker 2: US T guess and rubber bullets. While police and other
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Speaker 2: authorities struggle to contain the situation, There's been tension between
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Speaker 2: the state Democrat government and the Republican federal government. Here's
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Speaker 2: the latest from sky News UK.
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Speaker 3: Most of the protesters seem to have heeded police warnings
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Speaker 3: to lead this area or face arrest. It has been
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Speaker 3: an ugly day across this part of Los Angeles, have alock,
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Speaker 3: cars on fire and tensions inflamed, emotions stoked by the
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Speaker 3: President's decision to deploy the military.
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Speaker 4: Here.
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Speaker 3: The Mexican flag is flying and anger directed at ICE,
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Speaker 3: the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Agency after a series of raids.
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Speaker 3: The protests are now in their third day. Initially sparked
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Speaker 3: by raids on workplaces across LA a search to round
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Speaker 3: up legal immigrants. Politicians on both sides of the aisle
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Speaker 3: condemning the violence.
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Speaker 5: This woman one of the number arrested.
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Speaker 3: The president said that any violence which impeded officials will
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Speaker 3: be treated as a form of rebellion. More protests are
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Speaker 3: planned through tonight and in to tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I said, just turned midnight in LA. So
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Speaker 2: it's into the fourth day of writing.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 2: This is ugly stuff, but it's more than passing strange
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Speaker 2: that while immigrants and their supporters apparently are demanding the
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Speaker 2: right to remain in the United States, many have been
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Speaker 2: waving Mexican flags and even Palestinian flags. If they want
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Speaker 2: other Americans to support their cause, they might want to
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Speaker 2: think about waving the flag of the country they expect
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Speaker 2: to offer them a home. Most of this country is
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Speaker 2: on the King's Birthday holiday today. It's a pretty silly
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Speaker 2: kind of a holiday, isn't it. All the things we
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Speaker 2: could celebrate in this great country, we choose to have
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Speaker 2: the make believe birthday of the bloke who inherited the
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Speaker 2: crown in another country, and therefore without any input of
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Speaker 2: things like merit or democracy, since at the very top
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Speaker 2: of our constitutional tree go figure. Anyway. The good news
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Speaker 2: is that, like Australia, this is a day for national awards.
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Speaker 2: As usual, a lot of these go to the great
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Speaker 2: and the famous, who have already been richly rewarded. This year,
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Speaker 2: Former Prime Minister Scott Morrison was a notable recipient of
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Speaker 2: the top honor. He was, of course, the COVID PM
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Speaker 2: and remains proud of our pandemic performance.
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Speaker 7: We demonstrated that we've been able to save lives and
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Speaker 7: save livelihoods and so well. You never get everything right
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Speaker 7: in a crisis. Australia's a percentage and strike rate on
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Speaker 7: getting things right was higher than most, but it all
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Speaker 7: depended on the resilience and support of the Australian people
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Speaker 7: and for that I'll be forever grateful.
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Speaker 2: Well, okay, we didn't get everything wrong either, but we've
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Speaker 2: got a lot wrong and I'd like to see a
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Speaker 2: little less self congratulation from all of our politicians and
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Speaker 2: more focus on lun from our mistakes. Under Morrison's National cabinet,
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Speaker 2: we had state premiers running a muck, closing schools which
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Speaker 2: they never should have done, imposing lockdowns and curfews that
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Speaker 2: they never should have done, imposing mask mandates and arresting
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Speaker 2: people and clamping down on dissent in ways they never
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Speaker 2: should have and closing state borders, and most importantly, imposing
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Speaker 2: vaccine mandates that never should have happened. They lasted years
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Speaker 2: and never should have been imposed. Morrison should have found
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Speaker 2: a way to rain the premiers in and we've got
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Speaker 2: to stop kidding ourselves about how well we did, because
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Speaker 2: we're still paying for it big time, with debt and
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Speaker 2: deficit and a lack of productivity and a cost of
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Speaker 2: living crisis that could all still lead to a severe
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Speaker 2: economic downturn. The one thing that Morrison should have done,
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Speaker 2: and our BENIZI should have done since is to instigate
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Speaker 2: a full national royal commit into the pandemic response, to
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Speaker 2: make sure we learn all the lessons, good and bad
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Speaker 2: from what we did, lest we make those same mistakes again.
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Speaker 2: Now on these national awards, what I prefer to do
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Speaker 2: is highlight some of the lesser lights, the people who
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Speaker 2: really should be the focus on days like this. There
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Speaker 2: are so many good people who make our communities better
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Speaker 2: every day. So there's one I noticed today on the
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Speaker 2: list that I have a connection to. Back in my
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Speaker 2: suburban footy playing days, I used to give the umpires
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Speaker 2: a bit of a running commentary during the game, call
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Speaker 2: it stress relief. I should have just kept my trap shut.
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Speaker 2: But after one weekend of that sort of thing, I'll
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Speaker 2: never forget as a young TV reporter turning up at
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Speaker 2: a police press conference the following Monday, and there he
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Speaker 2: was the umpire from the weekend, the very senior police officer,
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Speaker 2: Barry Lewis. He rose to be superintendent before he retired. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: it was a bit of a lesson to me at
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Speaker 2: the time. Will be a bit late to show a
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Speaker 2: bit more back to the umpires now he's long out
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Speaker 2: of the police force now, but Lewis is still active
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Speaker 2: in footy and that's why he was recognized in today's
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Speaker 2: national awards. He's umpired more than two thousand, eight hundred
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Speaker 2: games of AUSSI rules, which is just an incredible number.
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Speaker 2: That's fifty years of umpiring. He's seventy seven years old
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Speaker 2: and he's in his fiftieth season this year. Just fantastic stuff.
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Speaker 2: So congratulations to Barry Lewis, and apologies for anything I
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Speaker 2: might have said on the field in the heat of battle.
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Speaker 2: Community sport jazz doesn't happen without the volunteer coaches and
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Speaker 2: the team managers and all the umpires and officials who
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Speaker 2: are hard at it every weekend. So congratulations to all
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Speaker 2: those Australians who were recognized today for that kind of
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Speaker 2: work in sports, in arts and theater groups, in community
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Speaker 2: clubs and charities, the sort of work that really binds
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Speaker 2: our nation together. They do much more for our country
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Speaker 2: every day than the bloke whose birthday we pretend to
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Speaker 2: celebrate today. The alban Easy Labor government's shameful and reckless
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Speaker 2: handling of anti Semitism here in Australia and its related
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Speaker 2: weakness in supporting liberty and security for Israel has sunk
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Speaker 2: to a new loan. The government has disgracefully refused a
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Speaker 2: visa for a sensible professional Israeli tech expert and commentator.
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Speaker 2: He'll el fold fold supports Israel. He hits back at
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Speaker 2: Humas propaganda. He's religious, he's clear sighted, and from what
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Speaker 2: I've seen, he's not wrong. Here's some of his work
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Speaker 2: summarizing two decades of the Gaza issue.
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Speaker 4: In two and five, we give Gaza Palestinians qute unquote.
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Speaker 4: The entire Gaza striven said, here, build a paradise. There
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Speaker 4: was no blockhead, no offences, there was no nothing. Pig
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Speaker 4: Gaza and a silver platter, will build yourself a Singapore.
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Speaker 2: In the Middle East.
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Speaker 4: And immediately they left to Commas, and that from the
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Speaker 4: blockade started when they elected a genocidal organization. Wait on
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Speaker 4: a reporter at the time when that historic instatement was
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Speaker 4: made and we left Gaza. Every Israeli politicians who supported
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Speaker 4: this dreadful move. It was dreadful to watch Israeli army
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Speaker 4: forcefully evacuate ten thousand people from your unities in Israel.
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Speaker 4: But as soon as that happened, and all the politicians
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Speaker 4: have supported it, got on the podium in the Knesset,
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Speaker 4: in the Parliament and said, if one missile, if one
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Speaker 4: rocket falls on Israel with flattening Gaza, here we are
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Speaker 4: twenty years later, tens of thousands, maybe more rockets that
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Speaker 4: have landed on Israeli talents from villaged and cities, and
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Speaker 4: here we are fighting Kamas after it took twenty years
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Speaker 4: to arm themselves in the booby trapping entire Gaza strip.
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Speaker 1: Not a single Israeli politician has gotten.
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Speaker 4: Up and said I supported the disengagement.
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Speaker 2: I was wrong.
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Speaker 4: The reality is it would not have happened.
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Speaker 1: Have you not disengaged?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty accurate summary of what's happened in
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Speaker 2: Gaza leading us to this war still ongoing twenty months
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Speaker 2: on from October the seventh. It's a matter of national
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Speaker 2: shame now that Fold has been banned from Australia, banned
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Speaker 2: from a visit long in the planning and designed only
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Speaker 2: to do good.
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Speaker 6: Right, We're he live in Tel Aviv with Heillel Fold
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Speaker 6: on his way to ausraeis magendavid.
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Speaker 2: Adong super pump to see you all.
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Speaker 4: What's that the honor of meeting him, having a good
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Speaker 4: time here, But very much looking forward to meeting.
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Speaker 2: All you book get tickets now do that now. The
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Speaker 2: purpose of Ford's trip was to headline a charity event.
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Speaker 2: Yet a charity event for Mugam David Adom. That's the
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Speaker 2: equivalent of the Red Cross, the Israeli Red Cross supplying
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Speaker 2: blood and emergency medical care to everyone and anyone in
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Speaker 2: Israel Jewish, Muslim, Christian of whatever creed or ethnic background.
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Speaker 2: But our government, specifically the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke,
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Speaker 2: has banned Fool's visit on the grounds of Islamophobia, claiming
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Speaker 2: he's divisive and that he's denied atrocities against Gazans. On
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Speaker 2: the contrary, Ford has called out some of the hummus
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Speaker 2: propaganda that's filled most of the media, the sort of
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Speaker 2: lies that I've highlighted here. Lies about Israel bombing a
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Speaker 2: hospital and killing five hundred people when it didn't, Lies
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Speaker 2: about fourteen thousand babies being on the brink of death
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Speaker 2: when they weren't, Lies about Israel slaughtering Ghazans turning up
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Speaker 2: for aid supplied by Israel, things that didn't happen. So
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Speaker 2: our government bans a person based on his sharing of
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Speaker 2: the truth, based on his support for the facts and
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Speaker 2: his support for Israel, and this when our own government
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Speaker 2: helps to perpetuate the falsehoods.
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Speaker 8: Israel's actions are completely unacceptable. It is outrageous that there
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Speaker 8: be a blockade or food and supplies to people who
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Speaker 8: are in need in Gaza. Were made that very clear
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Speaker 8: by signing up to international statement. Australia fines these actions
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Speaker 8: as completely unacceptable and we find Israel's excuses and explanations
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Speaker 8: completely untenable and without credibility.
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Speaker 2: What makes the decision even worse is that the alb
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Speaker 2: and easy Labor government and Burke in particular, have been
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Speaker 2: jelly backed when it comes to Muslim hate preachers and
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism on our shores. I'm is Haydan, it's.
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Speaker 1: A day of courage.
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Speaker 8: Writing fall.
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Speaker 2: What did the federal government do about this sickening celebration
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Speaker 2: of the slaughter of more than twelve hundred israelis nothing.
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Speaker 2: It did nothing. In fact, the next day the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister spoke at the nearby lakember Mosque and didn't mention
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Speaker 2: this hatred, and that night we saw this again. The
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Speaker 2: government did nothing nothing. We have hatred being preached against
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Speaker 2: Israel and Jews in this country almost daily. And the
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Speaker 2: government does nothing. Instead, it's issued three thousand visas to
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Speaker 2: people from Humas controlled Gaza with insufficient security checks. And
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Speaker 2: who does it ban? It bans Israelis respected, law abiding
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Speaker 2: Israeli's last year, it blocked the entry of former Israeli
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Speaker 2: government minister Alet Shaked, claiming she would stoke divisions. And
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Speaker 2: now its respected tech commentator Hillel Fuld, who was coming
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Speaker 2: for a charity event. The government's been lobbied to make
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Speaker 2: this latest decision by a campaign of Muslim and pro
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Speaker 2: Palestinian activists maligning Fooled and demanding the government block his entry. Ever,
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Speaker 2: sinsitive because of Muslim voters in key seats like Tony
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Speaker 2: Burke's seat in southwestern Sydney, the Albanezy Labor government has
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Speaker 2: caved in. This government says it's refusing a visa because
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Speaker 2: it stands against hatred. But what it's doing is giving
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Speaker 2: in to hatred by refusing the visa. We have a
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Speaker 2: national government at the moment that does not have the
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Speaker 2: backbone to stand up for Australian values of freedom, democracy
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Speaker 2: and tolerant and that leaves us in a very sad,
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Speaker 2: very dangerous place globally. The anti Israel protests continue, with
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Speaker 2: world attention focusing over the past few days on the
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Speaker 2: so called AID flotilla heading towards Gaza with professional protest
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Speaker 2: to Greta Thunberg on board.
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Speaker 9: My name is Giba Timber and I am from Sweden.
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Speaker 9: If you see this video, we have been intercepted and
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Speaker 9: kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational.
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Speaker 1: Forces or forces that support israel. I.
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Speaker 9: Urge all my friends, family and comrades to put pressure
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Speaker 9: on the Swedish government to release me and the others
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Speaker 9: as soon as possible.
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Speaker 2: Pretty sickening to reference kidnapping, isn't it, considering how many
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Speaker 2: Israelis Hummas kidnapped and killed, and how it still holds
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Speaker 2: more than fifty people they kidnapped at gunpoint more than
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Speaker 2: six hundred days ago. But then, I don't think any
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Speaker 2: of these protesters can be accused of overthinking anything. Look,
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Speaker 2: this was and is a publicity stunt. Israel warned it
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Speaker 2: would intercept the vessel rather than let it land in guards.
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Speaker 2: Now part of me wanted them to be allowed through,
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Speaker 2: But imagine the repercussions if Hummas took these people hostages
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Speaker 2: or they were injured in some way they'd be held
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Speaker 2: to pay. So the Israeli defense forces did what they
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Speaker 2: promised to do, and they seized the vessel and its occupants.
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Speaker 1: Did their phones.
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Speaker 2: Now Israel says it has Tumberg and the other occupants.
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Speaker 2: They're all fine and it will be sending them back
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Speaker 2: to their home countries. But interestingly, not before it sits
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Speaker 2: them down and forces them to watch the forty five
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Speaker 2: minute compilation video of what Hummus and its supporters did
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Speaker 2: in southern Israel on October the seventh, twenty months ago.
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Speaker 2: This is a video I watched in Israel just over
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Speaker 2: a week ago. Much of it's filmed by Hummus terrorists themselves.
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Speaker 2: It's grotesque stuff as they slaughter people and yell praise
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Speaker 2: to their God simultaneously. This is a smart move by Israel,
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Speaker 2: forced these people to confront the evil that their actions support.
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Speaker 2: Let's see what Tumburg and mates say about Hummas, the
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Speaker 2: terrorists who still hold more than fifty hostages and still
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Speaker 2: terrorize Gaza with a pointless war. Let's see what they
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Speaker 2: say about Hummas when they no longer have the excuse
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Speaker 2: of ignorance. While in Australia, the anti Israeli mob were
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Speaker 2: protesting this afternoon around the country, including outside the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister's Electorate office.
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Speaker 10: The Australian government remained silent and camplistit in the ongoing
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Speaker 10: examination of the people in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: Surely most people can see through all this now in
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Speaker 2: the real world, Israeli and American efforts to deliver aid
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Speaker 2: directly to Gazans bypassing Hummas seemed to be working, helping
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Speaker 2: to undermine the Hummus grip on the Garzan people and
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Speaker 2: hopefully accelerating the end of the war. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: isn't it funny how Greteitemberg was happy to carry out
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Speaker 2: this flotilla stunt on the back of thumping big diesel engines.
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Speaker 2: With all the media coverage and naval interception, the carbon
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Speaker 2: footprint of this stunt must have been huge. That's cross
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Speaker 2: to Melbourne now and catch up with Glenni's lips and
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Speaker 2: because she's the chairperson of MUG and David at Dom,
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Speaker 2: the organization that was going to host helll fulled On
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Speaker 2: later this week. Good to talk to you, Glinnas. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining us. You must have been shocked. You've sold
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Speaker 2: a lot of tickets You're looking to raise a lot
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Speaker 2: of money and suddenly you've found out over the weekend
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Speaker 2: that your star guest won't be here for it. What's
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Speaker 2: your reaction?
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Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having me on.
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Speaker 10: We're very disappointed, but we're moving on. We are continuing
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Speaker 10: with the event. There are over six hundred people coming
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Speaker 10: to the event. We will live stream helll from Israel.
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Speaker 10: But Chris, the main focus of our event is to
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Speaker 10: raise funds for Magan David Adom saving lives.
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Speaker 5: That's our focus, and we're very sorry. But we've done
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Speaker 5: everything possible to have this overturned, and we can't. We're
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Speaker 5: just moving on.
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Speaker 2: You've done everything possible lobbying our own federal government. But
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Speaker 2: if you've even had the American Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee,
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Speaker 2: appealed directly to our federal government, what's the response you've
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Speaker 2: got from either the Prime Minister or the Home Affairs
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Speaker 2: Minister's office.
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Speaker 5: US personally, no response.
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Speaker 10: Some politicians have got a response, our lawyers have got
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Speaker 10: a response. And the answer is no, it won't be overturned.
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Speaker 10: Not only did Mike Hakabe get involved, the former Israeli
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Speaker 10: Ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad or done got involved.
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Speaker 10: But as I say, we're moving on, we're focusing on
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Speaker 10: what the cause of this appeal is to raise money
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Speaker 10: for Megan Dabada Doom.
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Speaker 2: Well, why did you have hellel Fuld coming tell us
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Speaker 2: about that cause? What sort of a speech did you
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Speaker 2: expect him to deliver? Therefore, why would the government have
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Speaker 2: found it controversial.
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Speaker 5: Choice. I've been following him for years. I think he's
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Speaker 5: a great advocate for Israel.
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Speaker 10: He's a great advocate for humanitarian work, and that's the
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Speaker 10: reason we chose him, no other reason, nothing about his
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Speaker 10: tweets or anything, just as a high tech an advocate
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Speaker 10: for Israel and a great speaker.
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Speaker 5: He's traveled the world speaking everywhere.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, my colleague Cherry Marksen has interviewed Hillel
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Speaker 2: Shul that interview lighter to not but he's a snippet
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Speaker 2: from Hello, fold to Die. What he had to say
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Speaker 2: about this.
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Speaker 4: I literally had to read the email like five times.
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Speaker 4: I was like, there's no way that a government is
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Speaker 4: banning some random guy who writes on the internet. I'm
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Speaker 4: not a politician or anything. I had to read the
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Speaker 4: email literally five times. The topic of my talk wasn't
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Speaker 4: even politics. Or anything to do with gods or anything
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Speaker 4: like that. I was there to talk about how Israel
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Speaker 4: and Israeli innovation is changing the world and making the
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Speaker 4: world a better place. What's inflammatory about that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that full interview you will be on with
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Speaker 2: the charity at eight o'clock tonight. But tell us then
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Speaker 2: that the idea of this, why would the government object
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Speaker 2: to this? Because, as you're saying, you're not political, you're
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Speaker 2: raising money for charity, a charity that helps Jewish and
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Speaker 2: Muslim and Christian people alike in Israel.
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Speaker 10: Chris, we have a we're the largest largest volunteer organization
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Speaker 10: in Israel, thirty of over thirty five thousand volunteers. And
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Speaker 10: as you say, Christians, Muslims, Drews, Bedouins, ultra Orthodox Jews,
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Speaker 10: we make no difference.
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Speaker 5: We are about saving lives.
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Speaker 10: We have no idea why the government honed in on him,
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Speaker 10: and we are disappointed. But as I say, we are
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Speaker 10: moving on because the focus of our campaign is all
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Speaker 10: about saving lives.
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Speaker 2: I understand that, and I admire the fact that you
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Speaker 2: want to move on and not get bogged down in politics.
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Speaker 2: But you're obviously it's a charity that's focused on Israel,
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Speaker 2: so charity support by Jewish Australians. Do you feel you've
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Speaker 2: been poorly treated by your own national government.
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Speaker 5: I'm not going to comment. I think that's for our
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Speaker 5: lawyers and everybody else to comment.
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Speaker 10: Mergan David ad Dom has offices in twenty countries around
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Speaker 10: the world, both Jewish and non Jewish.
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Speaker 5: That support the organization.
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Speaker 10: In Israel, we have a huge humanitarian aid group that
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Speaker 10: travel the world helping whenever there's a disaster. As many
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Speaker 10: people know, when there's a disaster, Israel is always the
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Speaker 10: first to offer assistance and that's who we are and
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Speaker 10: that's our focus.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Glinnus, I really appreciate your time.
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Speaker 2: Glinnas lips in there, who's the mug And David a
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Speaker 2: DOME Australia chairperson And as you heard there, they don't
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Speaker 2: want to be political, but I'll tell you what they've
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Speaker 2: been singled out because the Jewish Australian Organization was trying
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Speaker 2: to raise money and hille Ford we'll speak to that
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Speaker 2: function later this week in Melbourne. All the same, he
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Speaker 2: will speak over the internet. He will speak virtually so
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Speaker 2: people will get to hear him. But this is a
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Speaker 2: disgraceful effort by our federal government as one that fills
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Speaker 2: me with great shame. So make sure you tune in
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Speaker 2: tonight at eight o'clock to hear Hello talk directly at
22:15
Speaker 2: length with Shari Markson. Let's go now to domestic politics
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Speaker 2: and catch up with Kevin Hogan. He's the deputy leader
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Speaker 2: of the Nationals. He drives us joins me live from
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Speaker 2: Lizmore in northern New South Wales. Good to talk to
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Speaker 2: you again, Kevin. I want to get your thoughts on that. Firstly, well,
22:31
Speaker 2: what business has this government got banning a respectable tech
22:35
Speaker 2: commentator and Israeli activists from Israel who's coming out here
22:39
Speaker 2: to raise money for a Jewish charity. I mean, why
22:42
Speaker 2: are they doing this? It seems like it seems like
22:44
Speaker 2: they are targeting the Jewish Australian community unfairly. Well, Chris, it.
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Speaker 6: Certainly appears like that, and I think there's been other
22:54
Speaker 6: cases as well that people have been unfairly treated. And
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Speaker 6: the other distinction that you drew, which we have a
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Speaker 6: huge concern with and we raised in Parliament many times,
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Speaker 6: is on the other side of this, excepting I think
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Speaker 6: it was somewhere between two and three thousand refugees from
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Speaker 6: Garza now, and they did that at quite a speedy rate.
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Speaker 6: Like you know, we didn't know a lot of you know,
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Speaker 6: how can you find out all the information you need
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Speaker 6: to know about all those thousands of people coming from
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Speaker 6: that area of the world, And no other country Chris
23:23
Speaker 6: in the globe did that amount of accepting of refugees
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Speaker 6: from Gaza.
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Speaker 2: So look, I think this.
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Speaker 6: Government's made a lot of bad decisions in this front
23:31
Speaker 6: as long, along with a lot of others.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to a national security and there's
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Speaker 2: been a big debate prompted mainly by the US about
23:39
Speaker 2: our defense spending here and former Prime Minister Scott Morrison,
23:42
Speaker 2: doing interviews because of his King's Birthday honor, has brought
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Speaker 2: into this saying he supports a biggest spend on defense
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Speaker 2: in this country.
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Speaker 7: Here he is, I'm on the record for some time
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Speaker 7: now I'm supporting a three percent target. This is a
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Speaker 7: common i think requirement that has been put forward across
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Speaker 7: all allies and partners, not just Australia. The significant change
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Speaker 7: we're seeing in the security environment and necessitate such a
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Speaker 7: strong response there.
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Speaker 2: Of course, in the election, the Coalition put up a
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Speaker 2: higher spending for defense. Obviously, labor trounced you at the election, though,
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Speaker 2: what can you do from opposition to either encourage or
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Speaker 2: support labor spending more on defense.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, we'll encourage them as best we can, Chris,
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Speaker 6: but we're compromised in the cent today. They obviously have
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Speaker 6: a very strong majority. But as you said, we were
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Speaker 6: aiming for two and a half percent of GDP over
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Speaker 6: the next five years to three percent over the next ten.
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Speaker 6: Geopolitical tensions around the world are rising. We know that
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Speaker 6: you have to prepare for that. I've said before, bullies
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Speaker 6: only respect strength. They do not respect weakness, which is
24:49
Speaker 6: why we have to increase defense spending. We will certainly
24:52
Speaker 6: be supporting the government to do everything they can to
24:55
Speaker 6: keep achieving the orcust determinants that we want. There's certain
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Speaker 6: things we have to achieve through AUCUS, but obviously increasing
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Speaker 6: our technological uptake that will take from the United States
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Speaker 6: is really important. And I believe there's lots going on, Chris,
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Speaker 6: but I certainly believe that AUCUS will outlive Donald Trump's presidency,
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Speaker 6: will outlive Albaneze's Prime ministership, and in fact, it will
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Speaker 6: outlive Curse divers Prime ministership in the UK as well.
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Speaker 6: Very important to our national security, and we'll do everything
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Speaker 6: to support the government maintaining that.
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Speaker 2: Well, it needs to August needs to outlast us all,
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Speaker 2: that's for sure. But the problem here is lifting the
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Speaker 2: spending on defense. Because we've got the biggest spending government ever,
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Speaker 2: We've got deficits as far as the eye can see.
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Speaker 2: The only way that labor can fund additional find additional
25:43
Speaker 2: funding for defense is either to save money elsewhere, which
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Speaker 2: they've been pathetic at doing, or increasing taxes. Which are
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Speaker 2: those options? Are you going to push them down?
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Speaker 6: Well, we're going to obviously come out again. We've got
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Speaker 6: now three years unfortunately position, but we'll be taking a
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Speaker 6: whole comprehensive suite on what will take to that. But
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Speaker 6: you know, we like to be a lower taxing government
26:06
Speaker 6: than labor. We don't think taking your money or more
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Speaker 6: of your money is a solution. So we'll have to
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Speaker 6: look across the board of where we can save money
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Speaker 6: and where we can generate more money. But defense has
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Speaker 6: to be a priority for all the reasons you've seen. Now,
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Speaker 6: I know the States have come out with a target
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Speaker 6: that they want to have us for GDP Defense spending.
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Speaker 6: I think we can compromise them on that because a
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Speaker 6: lot of the money we're going to spend on defense
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Speaker 6: is through them or to them through workers. So I think,
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Speaker 6: you know, they should be able to compromise or we
26:33
Speaker 6: should be able to get a deal with them out
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Speaker 6: of that. I mean, we don't know.
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Speaker 2: The main thing is we spend ourselves, say, the main
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Speaker 2: thing is we need to spend enough to make sure
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Speaker 2: we got an adequate defense for us.
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Speaker 6: Sure, but look, a country like ours is always going
26:46
Speaker 6: to be stretched to be able to do that. We're
26:48
Speaker 6: very small country, as you know, Chris, with population twenty
26:51
Speaker 6: five million people. So you know, certainly I think we can.
26:55
Speaker 6: You know, we have to increase our defense spending to
26:58
Speaker 6: do what we need to do, but we will always
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Speaker 6: need a strong ally if we have you know, you know,
27:03
Speaker 6: we have threats. I mean that's history has proven that
27:05
Speaker 6: and we would still need that.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, thanks for joining us, Kevin, I appreciate it, Kevin Hogan.
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Speaker 2: They're joining us on that public holiday, although he's in
27:13
Speaker 2: the New South Wales Queensland not having the day off today,
27:15
Speaker 2: they have it later in the year. Apparently it's another
27:17
Speaker 2: birthday for our reigning monarch. We've got to take a break.
27:20
Speaker 2: On the other side. I'll cross to London. We'll catch
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Speaker 2: up with Sophie Olsworth. We'll talk about Prince William following
27:25
Speaker 2: in the activist steps of his father. Now, while most
27:33
Speaker 2: of this country has the day off to celebrate the
27:36
Speaker 2: birthday of our King, King Charles whenever that birthday happens
27:40
Speaker 2: to be his son, Prince William is in Monaco and
27:44
Speaker 2: he's been getting into some of the environmental activism that
27:47
Speaker 2: his father's been known for.
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Speaker 11: For the future of our planets, for the future generations,
27:54
Speaker 11: we must listen to the words of so David Attenborough.
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Speaker 11: If we save the sea, we save our world, all.
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Speaker 2: Things being equaled, Prince William will be our next king.
28:04
Speaker 2: Let's go to Sophie Ell'sworth News Course Europe correspondent and
28:07
Speaker 2: contributor here on Sky News joining us live out there
28:10
Speaker 2: in the middle of London with Bucky and Palace in
28:13
Speaker 2: the background. Looking a picture there, Sophie. Great to catch
28:16
Speaker 2: up with you again, Prince William, our monarch but one
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Speaker 2: getting into the environmental activism, just like the old man.
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Speaker 1: Chri's great to be with you.
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Speaker 12: Yes, that's exactly right. Prince William has sent out these
28:32
Speaker 12: pretty strong messages about his concern for the planet and
28:36
Speaker 12: our oceans and really following.
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Speaker 5: In his father's footsteps.
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Speaker 12: Chris, but I think Prince William needs to be very
28:43
Speaker 12: careful engaging this in this kind of commentary because as
28:47
Speaker 12: we know, the issues around the climate issues in our
28:52
Speaker 12: world are very controversial, and as we know, the late
28:56
Speaker 12: Queen Elizabeth preserved her commentary on things that were polarizing,
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Speaker 12: and I think this is where Prince William needs to
29:03
Speaker 12: be awfully careful about setting a dangerous precedent when he
29:07
Speaker 12: starts weighing into issues such as climate.
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Speaker 2: He sure does. I mean, in short, we all support
29:14
Speaker 2: the environment. Everyone on the planet loves the planet, wants
29:17
Speaker 2: to look after it. But if he gets into climate
29:19
Speaker 2: change and who's for instance, if he's talking about the
29:22
Speaker 2: health of the oceans and pollution of the oceans, well,
29:25
Speaker 2: most of that's coming from developing countries in Southeast Asia
29:29
Speaker 2: and Africa, so he won't want to put the wood
29:32
Speaker 2: on them. He seems more sensible though he's not talking about,
29:37
Speaker 2: you know, putting cheese in his car or talking to
29:40
Speaker 2: plants like the reigning monarch, well, look.
29:44
Speaker 12: They're hugely popular here, Chris in London, the King and
29:48
Speaker 12: the Prince William are very very popular here, is a
29:51
Speaker 12: very strong support for the monarchy, unlike Prince Harry and
29:55
Speaker 12: Meghan Markle. So they are very much loved by the
29:58
Speaker 12: British public. This weekend we have Troop in color. It's
30:02
Speaker 12: a massive weekend in Britain. But yes, they need to
30:05
Speaker 12: be careful with this kind of messaging because it can
30:07
Speaker 12: divide people very quickly and turn people off the royal family.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, apart from being a handsome couple, I think
30:14
Speaker 2: one of the reasons they're popular is because they have
30:16
Speaker 2: been sensible. They haven't gone out getting into nutty nutty
30:19
Speaker 2: issues or political issues. So let's hope it stays that way.
30:23
Speaker 2: Let's go to the fortunes of an Aussie in London,
30:26
Speaker 2: and AND's posta conclu the soccer coach who's been given
30:29
Speaker 2: his marching orders now here he was before he knew
30:33
Speaker 2: he was about to lose the job. Somebody rightly pointed
30:36
Speaker 2: out sometimes they kill off the main character, so.
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Speaker 11: I could be in strife there.
30:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, they killed off the main character. Alright, he brought
30:44
Speaker 2: them home the silverware, but he's now jobless, Sophie, is
30:47
Speaker 2: there a lot of sympathy for him in the UK?
30:51
Speaker 12: Christ's very divided. Here the back pages of the sport
30:55
Speaker 12: sections in Saturday and Sunday's paper there was a lot
30:58
Speaker 12: of divisions, some saying Goodie had to go that a
31:01
Speaker 12: shocking English Premier League season where Tottenham finished seventeenth, Others
31:05
Speaker 12: saying what on earth happened? He got them the europe
31:09
Speaker 12: League title, the first piece of silver weather they've had
31:12
Speaker 12: in seventeen years, and now he's been given the boot.
31:15
Speaker 12: But it seems that Ange Poster Conglu's career is far
31:19
Speaker 12: from over. There's already speculation he could stay here in
31:23
Speaker 12: the UK, perhaps pick up a job somewhere else. But
31:26
Speaker 12: I can assure you Chris, there's a lot of very
31:28
Speaker 12: angry Tottenham supporters. He'll bring up talkback radio when this
31:32
Speaker 12: broad absolutely furious about what had happened.
31:35
Speaker 2: I bet they were. I tell you what. It turns
31:38
Speaker 2: out he's a Carlton supporter in the AFL, and after
31:41
Speaker 2: Carlton won the other day, the Carlton coach Michael Voss
31:44
Speaker 2: was asked whether there was room for Ange posta conclu
31:46
Speaker 2: at Carlton and they said that welcome him, but they
31:49
Speaker 2: probably couldn't afford him, but maybe you'll turn up for
31:52
Speaker 2: a session or two. Let's stick with sport and Jeremy
31:55
Speaker 2: Clarkson has posted on Instagram that he's caught up with
31:58
Speaker 2: the bozzy cricket captain Pat comings.
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Speaker 5: Yeah that's right.
32:02
Speaker 12: So Jeremy Clarkson, as we know, has this hugely popular
32:05
Speaker 12: program Clarkson's Farm where he bought this farm in the Cotswolds. Well,
32:11
Speaker 12: Pat Cummins is in London because they have the ICC
32:14
Speaker 12: World Championship Final this week which kicks off on Wednesday,
32:18
Speaker 12: and the two got together and Clarkson was having a
32:21
Speaker 12: bit of fun with it, saying, hey, look who I
32:23
Speaker 12: stole from Australia. I've got your Australian captain. Clarkson said
32:27
Speaker 12: before he's not the biggest fan of cricket, but look
32:29
Speaker 12: Pat Cummins and the Australian side are hoping to win
32:32
Speaker 12: this Championship final here against South Africa. Massive week for cricket,
32:37
Speaker 12: but a bit of fun to see the cricket is
32:39
Speaker 12: taking some time out of their busy schedule to have
32:42
Speaker 12: a bit of lightheartedness in their life and catch up
32:44
Speaker 12: with Jeremy Clarkson, who is another hugely popular figure in
32:48
Speaker 12: the UK.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Clarkson is great, and Clarkson's farm is great, and
32:52
Speaker 2: we love Pat Cummins. But maybe Jeremy should tell Pat
32:55
Speaker 2: to ease off on the climate commentary as well. Maybe
32:58
Speaker 2: that I reckon he would just quickly before I let
33:01
Speaker 2: you go. All the speculation too when it comes to awards,
33:04
Speaker 2: that David Beckham, the former Pomme soccer captain, might get
33:08
Speaker 2: a knighthood soon.
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Speaker 12: Well, it broke in the papers here just a couple
33:12
Speaker 12: of days ago, Chris that he will be Sir David Beckham.
33:17
Speaker 12: On the weekend when a lot of these knighthoods are announced,
33:20
Speaker 12: it's announced, it's been revealed that he's on the list
33:23
Speaker 12: and he will become Sir David Beckham. Victoria will become
33:26
Speaker 12: Lady Beckham. And there's a lot in the UK hugely
33:30
Speaker 12: proud of David Beckham. Another character Chris, who is extremely
33:35
Speaker 12: popular here and who has been overlooked for this nighthood
33:38
Speaker 12: for some time.
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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with your Sophie. Enjoy the walk
33:42
Speaker 2: home to the office. So look splendid there in London, Sophie.
33:45
Speaker 2: I'sworth there all over for all over everything for us
33:48
Speaker 2: in London. I'd be calling her Lady Spice by the way,
33:51
Speaker 2: not Lady Beckham. It'll be Sir David and Lady Spice.
33:55
Speaker 2: There you go, the name for the next fragrance. Already,
33:58
Speaker 2: we've got to take a break. On the other side,
34:00
Speaker 2: we're going to catch up on this disgraceful act by
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Speaker 2: our own government towards Israelis. I'm going to cross to
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Speaker 2: Israel and catch up with a deputy Foreign Minister, Sharon Haskell.
34:13
Speaker 2: Let's cross live to Jerusalem now, where the Israeli Deputy
34:16
Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Sharon Haskell is waiting to join us. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining us, minister. Good to talk to you again.
34:22
Speaker 2: First up, I need to get an update on the vessel,
34:26
Speaker 2: the AID float till a vessel is what they call it,
34:29
Speaker 2: Madeleine with gretaitt Toomberg and others on board, can you
34:32
Speaker 2: tell us where is the vessel now and where are
34:34
Speaker 2: those people who are on board it?
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Speaker 1: Well, at three am were some of our navy vessels.
34:43
Speaker 1: An elite unit came on board and took the vessels
34:46
Speaker 1: to a shdor the port. They are being in a
34:52
Speaker 1: shador the port. I think they're being detained right now.
34:55
Speaker 1: They were offered food and water, obviously, but that was
35:00
Speaker 1: just a provocation. It was a clear provocation. And I
35:03
Speaker 1: have to say something else that I think the audience
35:06
Speaker 1: should know. This is not about aid, it is not
35:10
Speaker 1: about refugees. It's not about helping people. Think about it,
35:16
Speaker 1: Chris on their way. They have videoed and showed many
35:22
Speaker 1: boats of Sudanese trying to flee by boat a terrible
35:27
Speaker 1: civilian war in Sudan, where almost half a million children
35:32
Speaker 1: have died due to malnutrition, almost eight million, more than
35:38
Speaker 1: eight million internationally displaced, three millions of refugees. I mean,
35:44
Speaker 1: more than one hundred and fifty people at least were murdered,
35:48
Speaker 1: brutally and killed. They didn't stop, they didn't give them food,
35:52
Speaker 1: they didn't take them into refuge they didn't want to
35:54
Speaker 1: assist them. This was purely a provocation and trying to
36:00
Speaker 1: gain some social media likes and influence.
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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. We understand that it was
36:07
Speaker 2: a publicity stunt. But the reason you didn't want them
36:10
Speaker 2: to actually go on shore at Gaza was that in
36:13
Speaker 2: the interests of their safety.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, think about it, what will happen if
36:20
Speaker 1: those people would have been kidnapped by Hamas. For example,
36:24
Speaker 1: you know that Tammas didn't held just Israeli captain captive.
36:28
Speaker 1: They held people from Tanzania, from the Philippines, time nationality.
36:36
Speaker 1: Why was Hamas folding them captive? And who paid the
36:40
Speaker 1: price for their release? It was Israel. And so if
36:44
Speaker 1: Hamas abdopt any of them, first thing, it will be
36:48
Speaker 1: Israel who will need to pay the price to bring
36:51
Speaker 1: them back. And the second thing that as we've seen
36:54
Speaker 1: so many times before, it is always Israel's responsibility. Whenever
36:59
Speaker 1: there's a mistake, whenever there's a tragedy, whenever something happens,
37:04
Speaker 1: it is always blamed on us. So in order to
37:07
Speaker 1: prevent that, you know, then we pull the boat out
37:11
Speaker 1: and pushed it into the shot court with the people
37:17
Speaker 1: now have those protests.
37:18
Speaker 2: Are they going to be charged with any offenses or
37:21
Speaker 2: they simply be set back to their countries of origin?
37:24
Speaker 2: And also on that where there are reports now they're
37:26
Speaker 2: going to be forced to view that Defense Force video
37:31
Speaker 2: that shows the atrocities committed by Hamas on October the seventh,
37:36
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three.
37:36
Speaker 1: Is that correct, yes, So the Israeli Defense Minister will
37:42
Speaker 1: show them the movie the horror movie collected, and I
37:47
Speaker 1: have to say, Chris, not from the worst of the
37:51
Speaker 1: events that have happened, but some of the events that
37:54
Speaker 1: Hamas videotaped and filmed and broadcasted live, so that they
37:59
Speaker 1: can actually understand and see what Hamas mean and how
38:04
Speaker 1: Gaza needs to be liberated from Hamas. They don't care
38:08
Speaker 1: for Israelis, and they've murdered Israelis, but they don't care
38:11
Speaker 1: for the lives of Palestinian either, using them as human shields,
38:16
Speaker 1: hiding behind inside underneath schools and hospitals knowingly. So I
38:23
Speaker 1: think it's important to just broader some of their information,
38:28
Speaker 1: some of their knowledge because obviously they are not aware
38:32
Speaker 1: and they don't have the knowledge of what actually is
38:36
Speaker 1: happening here.
38:37
Speaker 2: Now when it comes to AID, the big development in
38:40
Speaker 2: AID is the way your country and the US is
38:42
Speaker 2: delivering a direct to Gaza, sorry, direct to the Gazan
38:47
Speaker 2: people bypassing Hamas. Is that being successful and is that
38:51
Speaker 2: being embraced by the people in Gaza or are they
38:54
Speaker 2: being discribed by Hamas from receiving that aid?
38:58
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Just yes, today millions of meals were distributed again.
39:04
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can see the stress and the
39:07
Speaker 1: panic of Hamas. And so that's the way you know
39:11
Speaker 1: it's being successful because until now Hamas was profiting from
39:16
Speaker 1: that aid coming in. They were millions of dollars that
39:20
Speaker 1: they pocketed in we've seen that for the first time
39:24
Speaker 1: since the beginning of the war, when the aid was
39:27
Speaker 1: flooded in Gaza. That's the first time when they were
39:31
Speaker 1: capable of paying one hundred percent of the salaries of
39:35
Speaker 1: Haramas of the terrorists. That's the only time when they
39:39
Speaker 1: were able to recruit new terrorists to actually fight in
39:43
Speaker 1: the lines. And so right now, disconnecting Hamas from the
39:47
Speaker 1: distribution of aid, that is disconnecting the civilian power that
39:53
Speaker 1: Hamas holds over the population. And you can see it.
39:57
Speaker 1: They threatened with murder, with tree everything, and the people
40:02
Speaker 1: of Guans are still showing up collecting aid directly to
40:05
Speaker 1: them and they don't need to pay for it. Think
40:08
Speaker 1: about it, Hamas was selling that aid in the market.
40:11
Speaker 1: A bag of flower would cost between seventy and one
40:15
Speaker 1: hundred shekels. Now it costs only thirty shekels. And it
40:19
Speaker 1: is because most of that aid is being distributed for
40:22
Speaker 1: free through the American Agency, and that is incredible. It
40:27
Speaker 1: means that Hamas hopefully will break soon because as we're
40:31
Speaker 1: able to dismantle much of its military operation now we're
40:36
Speaker 1: in a process of dismantling their civilian power over the
40:40
Speaker 1: Gasen population.
40:42
Speaker 2: So important.
40:43
Speaker 1: I really hope that with a little bit more pressure
40:46
Speaker 1: we'll be able to go into a cease fighter will
40:48
Speaker 1: bring back our hostages.
40:50
Speaker 2: Let's hope. So, let's hope, so, Sharon, let's hope. So definitely.
40:53
Speaker 2: I just want to get your thoughts on one other issue. Well,
40:55
Speaker 2: we've got time, and that is a little fold Israeli
40:59
Speaker 2: American tech commentator. He's had his visa rejected from coming
41:03
Speaker 2: to Australia to speak at at a charity event. Have
41:06
Speaker 2: you had any explanation from the Australian government or made
41:09
Speaker 2: any representations on his behalf.
41:13
Speaker 1: Look, this is very unfortunate and I'm actually disappointed. I mean,
41:18
Speaker 1: Australia is a sovereign state and has the right to
41:21
Speaker 1: decide which foreigner can enter its border and which one can't. Obviously,
41:26
Speaker 1: but he led Floyd doesn't hold any any threat to
41:31
Speaker 1: the public or any any kind of risk. On a contrary,
41:35
Speaker 1: he comes to speak at an event from agenda Vida Dome.
41:39
Speaker 1: Maginda Vida Dome is like the Red Cross here in Israel.
41:43
Speaker 1: It's an emergency agency health one where Jews and Arabs
41:49
Speaker 1: work together. Those ambulance drivers, paramedics, nurses, they all Jews
41:56
Speaker 1: and Arabs who work together are being treated together, whether
42:00
Speaker 1: it's in Arabic cities and towns or in Jewish city
42:04
Speaker 1: and towns. This is part of what will be one
42:08
Speaker 1: of the best symbols here in Israel for coexistence between us.
42:13
Speaker 1: And it comes to speak to fundraise for that, and
42:17
Speaker 1: so I call on the Minister of Interior to reconsider
42:22
Speaker 1: This is not the first time. We've had quite a
42:25
Speaker 1: few cases now of Australian visas not being approved to
42:29
Speaker 1: some Israelis and we're quite concerned about it. We see
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Speaker 1: Australia as an ally and I hope you know that
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Speaker 1: it will be reconsidered by the Interior Minister.
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Speaker 2: Again, thanks for joining us, Minister, I appreciate your time.
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Speaker 2: That's the Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel, Sharon Haskell there
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Speaker 2: joining us live from Jerusalem, playing to the Australian government
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Speaker 2: to change its mind on that visa. For little food.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a break on the other side,
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Speaker 2: Gemyton UNI and Caroline Jerussa joined me. We'll talk about
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison defending his government's response to COVID. Okay, let's
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Speaker 2: sort it all now, all out now with GEMATONII from
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Speaker 2: TT Communication. I'm ready and Caroline, there are a host
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Speaker 2: of the Royal Report joining us. As it would happen
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Speaker 2: on the King's birthday long weekend. Caroline, good to see
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Speaker 2: you again. That's on the King's birthday whenever that is
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Speaker 2: in your presence. I want to get onto the awards though,
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Speaker 2: and let's have a quick go at Scott Morris. Scott
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Speaker 2: Rotson deserves an award like every former prime minister. But
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Speaker 2: gen is this focus on the success of COVID that
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Speaker 2: does my head in. Sure, we got some things right
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Speaker 2: in this country, but by god, we got a lot
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Speaker 2: wrong and we need to learn those lessons, don't we.
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Speaker 13: I was talking about Nijo talking about exactly that thing
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Speaker 13: today with someone about the fact that there was an
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Speaker 13: opportunity to reform.
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Speaker 5: There was political goodwill and there was.
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Speaker 13: Arguably, you know, a structural avenue for there to be
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Speaker 13: significant reform that would propel Australia. But instead we did
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Speaker 13: what we seem to always do you which is wet
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Speaker 13: our pants and say, oh no, we can't do anything different.
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Speaker 13: We just you know, what has happened to that Australian
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Speaker 13: spirit of innovation and going forward? And I think COVID
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Speaker 13: brought out the best and the worst of us, and
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Speaker 13: I have to say probably the worst of us.
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Speaker 2: Yes, certainly brought out a big government responsible worries me Caroline,
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Speaker 2: which if it happened again now at the moment, we'd
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Speaker 2: still have lockdown's, vaccine mandates, border closures, school closures, all
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Speaker 2: the things we know we shouldn't have had because there
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Speaker 2: hasn't been a proper inquiry. Well and we know that.
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Speaker 14: And you know, it's very interesting, Chris, because there were
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Speaker 14: a lot of us who said this at the time.
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Speaker 14: Obviously everyone's a genius in the aftermath, but there are
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Speaker 14: a lot of people who said at the time, hang
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Speaker 14: on a second, kid's got to stay in school. There
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Speaker 14: are a lot of kids that during COVID left the
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Speaker 14: school system and have never gone back. In shadow pandemic
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Speaker 14: of domestic violence, shadow pandemic of mental health, all of
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Speaker 14: these things. And the problem with what happened last time, Chris,
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Speaker 14: was that the politics of fear at a state level
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Speaker 14: were so electorally rewarding, but the Feds picked up the
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Speaker 14: bill for it all, so you know, you will have
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Speaker 14: a very very different response to you know, God forbid
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Speaker 14: anything like that ever happens to us again when you
45:22
Speaker 14: have very very different lines of rights and responsibilities. And
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Speaker 14: ultimately who is paying for it all? Obviously the Australian
45:29
Speaker 14: tax payer pays for it all, but it rewarded state
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Speaker 14: governments who just went absolutely feral and they haven't been
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Speaker 14: held accountable at all. And you're absolutely right read the inquiry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right too when it comes to you
45:44
Speaker 2: you didn't need hindsight. You don't need hindsight. We're calling
45:46
Speaker 2: all this out in real time. Let's move to la
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Speaker 2: now and those shocking rights that are now into their
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Speaker 2: fourth day, and have a look at the Channel nine report.
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Speaker 2: Got caught right up in the middle of it.
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Speaker 3: Rather bullets of protesters moving them on really the heart
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Speaker 3: of la.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lauren Thomasy, they're presumably hid in the ankle by
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Speaker 2: a rubber bullet. This is shocking what's going on here.
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Speaker 2: Obviously it's the rioters are a fault here to blame,
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Speaker 2: but the political battle between la and Washington is pretty
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Speaker 2: ugly too.
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Speaker 13: I mean, I saw Gavin Newsom, the governor of California,
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Speaker 13: having a crack at Trumpet. Honestly, if I was to
46:34
Speaker 13: look objectively at the state of California, and what a
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Speaker 13: hot mess it is. The multiple failures under his leadership,
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Speaker 13: He's got a hide, He's got an absolute hide. The
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Speaker 13: fact that this has actually been allowed to germinate, take ground,
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Speaker 13: and run for as many days as it has, unchecked
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Speaker 13: and with impunity, means he's already lost.
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Speaker 2: Trump is right to.
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Speaker 13: Send in the National Guard.
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Speaker 5: Right to send it in.
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Speaker 13: I mean, unfortunately for Lauren, that's one of the hazards
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Speaker 13: of being and on the ground reporter in a zone
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Speaker 13: like that. And I hope she's okay, And it's a reminder,
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Speaker 13: it's a reminder of what can go wrong when you're
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Speaker 13: a reporter in those sorts of circumstances. But it's absolutely
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Speaker 13: the right thing to send in the National Guard. Give
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Speaker 13: them some consequences for God's sair.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to restore order number one. I should
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Speaker 2: have said Sacramento versus Washington when you're talking about the
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Speaker 2: capitals here, Caroline, But you'd want a state in federal
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Speaker 2: government working in unison here, not against each other.
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Speaker 14: Well, you would think so, and you would think after
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Speaker 14: the BLM, right, you know, the mostly peaceful riots where
47:29
Speaker 14: everything was on fire in twenty twenty, that people may
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Speaker 14: have realized that once everything's on fire, that maybe the
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Speaker 14: authorities don't have everything under control, and maybe maybe we've
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Speaker 14: moved past that peaceful protest. I mean, I look at
47:44
Speaker 14: the substance of the issue, and again very different to BLM.
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Speaker 14: But when you I can't believe that we're seeing people
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Speaker 14: flying a foreign flag. I just look at that and
47:55
Speaker 14: see that happening on the streets of the and it
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Speaker 14: just looks it just looks totally busy are to me.
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Speaker 14: But there is a fundamental failure of the government in
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Speaker 14: California to put in place law and order that is
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Speaker 14: part of their job. And when things get out of
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Speaker 14: control like this, well you can't expect the rest of
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Speaker 14: the country to just sit there and go, oh, well,
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Speaker 14: maybe they'll maybe they'll sort it out eventually.
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Speaker 5: People's safety is very genuinely at risk.
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Speaker 14: And you know, these rights they're talking about here around
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Speaker 14: ice and the potential I saw something reported about, you know,
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Speaker 14: trying to infiltrate an ice department or something of the like.
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Speaker 14: You know that that there is that there is federal
48:40
Speaker 14: So so what is happening in a state is largely
48:43
Speaker 14: become a federal issue.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, shocking stuff. Let me finish on a high note, though,
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Speaker 2: and let's have a look at the Big Freeze happening
48:49
Speaker 2: at the MCG today. That game has just finished up,
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Speaker 2: The Big Freeze Game at the Holiday Monday Game in
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Speaker 2: the in Melbourne. But I'll tell you what a great
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Speaker 2: thing it is and what a man Neil Danaher is.
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Speaker 2: He can no longer speak to us except with the
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Speaker 2: aid of a computer, but his legacy through this event
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Speaker 2: and the money it's raised for MND research is just brilliant.
49:10
Speaker 2: I know you both agree with me, but we're going
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Speaker 2: to lie on time. Now. Won the game, I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to tell you, but I think you're going to
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Speaker 2: like it. Germ and Caroline, thanks for joining me so much.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow night. Here's Peter Gredlin