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Infighting is GOOD for hunters? | Should crossbows be legal? · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  We podcasted 2 days ago and then the next day we shot indoor
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  together and then today we shot outdoor together.
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  So we spent three days in a row together.
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  Who would have had it on their on their map?
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  And we probably would have tomorrow, but Brianna and I are
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  heading out to a tournament and you're catching a jet home and
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  you know so, but it was good. What was your thought on
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  shooting indoor? First ever time, if I'm not
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  mistaken, shooting indoor. What did you think?
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  So you know how like the first time you record yourself and
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  especially if you're walking with any pace, you're like,
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  Dang, I am mouth breathing hard right now.
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  My first thought when I came to full draw and I let out a little
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  and that dude was a foot in front of me.
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  I was like, I know he felt that on his neck.
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  Guarantee he felt that on his neck.
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  And that was the most I I felt like like when you go to boot
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  camp, everything is the term is not to but like every you line
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  up, everything is here and that's how I felt draw.
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  I felt like I was drawn in a phone booth.
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  But it was fun though you might have got like a competitive
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  scratched a little competitive itch there.
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  So that that bow that I'm shooting right now, if I upgrade
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  the one that I have currently is probably going to turn it to a
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  target bow of some sort. I lot of got me look.
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  I think it's a good idea, Russell.
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  Yeah, Blame no. Don't.
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  Blame me, I'll tell you why too. Why I think it's it's would be
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  good number #1 is as we talked about indoor really shows you
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  all your holes in shooting, you know what I mean?
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  Because it's not like shooting outdoor where you can go, you
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  know, I didn't account for the slope or there was wind or the
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  sun was hitting me crazy. Like there's nothing.
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  It's just you, the bow and the target, like that's it.
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  So it's so good for that, I think.
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  And and the nice part is you shoot the long lift.
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  So if you get the, you know, whatever the lift X or the Hoyt
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  90, whatever you want to get or the the bow tech virtue AD,
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  whatever. You got to lead with that dog,
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  you know you got to. Lead a virtue AD.
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  My point is, like you, you have a good setup to transition into
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  an indoor bow. I think you're shooting £85.
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  That was not a smart thing you like.
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  You're both felt good though. Like today I shot it.
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  I think I shot one whole quiver and then I shot at least 4
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  arrows, maybe 5. Your draw felt good.
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  I mean, it doesn't feel super crazy, yeah.
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  Holding. That.
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  No, I'm just saying like I was impressed by the draw cycle.
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  I was impressed by it. Yeah, it felt good.
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  Yeah, it's it's clean. So that's why.
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  Because before I was shooting, I was shooting a bow that had 75
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  common mods and I was twisting it up and that felt like that
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  felt a little bit more junk, you know what I mean?
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  And then I wasn't going to upgrade and then they dropped 80
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  LB mods and I'm like, well, take my money I guess.
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  So that's kind of, that's kind of how that went.
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  And it, it, it is noticeably smoother.
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  One thing I did notice too, for indoor, the peep just
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  disappears. Like I might as well know how to
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  peep tied in. I could see like a faint black
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  circle. What is weird?
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  Like what is that phenomenon? What?
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  What am I? I don't know, I think it has
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  something to do with the lighting.
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  And you're absolutely right, it is interesting.
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  Like you know your peeps lined up when you just don't see
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  anything. Like you said, it almost fades
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  out. But what's I'll tell you what's
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  really a trip. So on my indoor bow yesterday I
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  was shooting my outdoor bow. So it has no clarifier and no
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  magnification, but my indoor bow has clarifier and magnification.
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  What's really a trip dude, is when you're in a draw and that I
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  can actually see my eyelashes, the reflection of my eyelashes
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  in the clarifier. And that is odd.
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  And like if I shot it out outside, you're not going to
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  probably see that. So I don't know, it has
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  something to do maybe with the the lighting and the reflection
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  off the floor. I'm not sure.
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  But you are right. It is like a totally different
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  look. I would say like if you are
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  strictly a bow hunter and in your mind you, you have like set
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  up some mental defense mechanism like these folks shoot better
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  than me because they're they're nerds and I could easily
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  transition over to that. I would say, I would say try it
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  and right because it makes you, if you have any type of
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  competitive moan in your body, you're going to be like, how do
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  I clean? How do I clean up?
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  How do I like hone that edge? Because that peep thing happens
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  too. If you're if you're hunting last
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  light early morning, it's the same.
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  It's the same thing. But like then you kind of get
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  away with it and it, but when you have to shoot 30 arrows and
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  you have to deal with that peep, it makes you have to deal with
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  that peep and start researching what am I going to do next?
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  So. Yeah, yeah.
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  And and I think another thing I really like about indoor as well
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  is just like you, I am competitive and it's the best
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  thing I found in archery to be competitive with yourself.
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  I mean, the other thing that's good as I love to shoot like
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  just go out and shoot groups and see if how tight I can get them
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  and get them tighter and tighter and tighter.
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  That's competitive with yourself too.
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  But shooting indoor, like you could stand inside at 10 yards
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  and shoot paper or 20 or, you know, however far and it's like
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  such a good way to push yourself to keep going, keep improving,
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  keep getting more consistent it without breaking arrows either
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  because you're not shooting groups at one dot, you're
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  shooting at 3 separate dollars. So it's that that's nice about
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  it. And I thought it was what was
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  interesting about the day we shot, we will have a video on
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  our channel and then the outdoor video will be on yours.
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  But I have never even shot when it was fully booked out, fully
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  crowded, Right. So like you said, normally when
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  we're there filming, it's like just me and maybe one other guy
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  like 5 rows down. Yeah, we were bam, bam, bam,
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  bam, bam, bam bam. So it was.
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  It was. But I think someone needs to put
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  in for a peel to, you know, I'm not saying so allow bigger
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  people to fit in the slots, but like.
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  Listen. What if?
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  Like who? Who?
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  Who gets armrests? Yeah.
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  Yeah. I hate the metal seat.
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  I hate, yeah, I just when you sitting back in the back and
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  watching that in a row, my mind just said I don't want nothing
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  to do with this. I don't want to partake at all.
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  It's it's so you got to not be claustrophobic.
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  You got to not have a fear of people because it's just like, I
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  could already feel the anxiety of like go and put your bow
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  down. And like I would notice how
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  people put it down like in front of them out of their box that
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  you have the stand in so that they're able to like get around
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  it. Otherwise, like you just you
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  can't can't get in It's. It was tight.
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  Very tight. Now I'm now I'm trying to
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  picture like in person what Vegas will look like when
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  because it's the same size, but for 100 people lined up.
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  Yeah. It's going to be crazy.
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  There's some final Destination vibes is what it is crazy
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  because it because it's like there's some trust in there too,
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  not to like first, don't tell me I'm the only one who got scarred
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  a little bit by Final Destination where you're
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  trusting that that dude right next to you, his peep is tied in
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  properly. You're trusting that they've
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  checked their arrows so it's not going to explode on like when
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  you you're tracking you're you're trusting that their knock
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  is good that close to each other.
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  Some a problem with their bow is your problem.
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  Like a fact there was a. You're also trusting that they
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  didn't eat Han spicy chili for dinner.
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  Could you imagine? Maybe that's my Dick, that's my
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  play. That might be my play.
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  Yeah, you go take. Me to Arby's baby.
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  And yeah, that's not it. I quit.
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  I need him moved like he's out out disqualified for his dinner.
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  I could not. That would be disgusting.
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  Oh yeah, don't have some gum. You got to chew it.
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  You got to spit it out. It's going to be in your gum.
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  I kind of know mine display, yeah.
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  You've ever meant to be pocket just in case you're like, you
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  know, kind of use them like, like, like what's the salt
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  called that they like? Smelling salts.
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  Smelling salts but like some mints you crush up it's told
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  them so you can like have some minty freshness up your nose in
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  case it is like bead around you. I can't smell anything anyway so
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  I have a terrible nose. It's not great for hunting, but
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  for everything else I think it's it's fine.
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  My nose is not good. No, no, I have had a nose
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  surgery. Fun fact.
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  It didn't work or you wrecked it again?
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  No, it didn't work. I mean, it was OK.
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  I think my airflow improved like a little bit, but not it wasn't
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  what I was hoping for. That's what I'm saying, Yeah.
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  But. You went under for the surgery?
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  Oh yeah. Dang you got you went under and
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  woke up like not fixed is got to be annoying.
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  It's better. I mean, like I said, it's
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  slightly better. That was a long time ago, but
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  this is. Slightly better.
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  We couldn't have stayed together before.
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  What was your snoring like that? I don't know, I was sleeping.
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  Let me turn my I'm going to turn my chair so this is couples
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  there I love it got him because y'all getting ready to say for
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  better or for worse at some point yeah true.
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  So if his snoring gets worse, you're locked in.
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  He he. Caught his mom's on my side,
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  I'm. Doing a CPAP.
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  To get a CPAP or look to fix it himself.
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  There's nothing wrong with you telling him to sleep on the
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  couch. She's on my side.
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  She's like, kick him out, you know, by the way you got to
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  sleep. Don't listen.
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  Your sleep counts too. If anyone has a CPAP company or
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  does marketing for one and would like to sponsor somebody, reach
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  out to me. Using their CPAP anymore?
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  Sure, gotta buy the tubes in one.
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  Yeah, I'm a cheap Mastard, so if we can do some marketing, I'm
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  in. Actually, in tubes, it's just
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  the machines, right? Yeah, the machine clean.
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  I got a couple extra tubes about.
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  Oh nice, you could get the machine.
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  Let's go. I got you.
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  Let's go. Look at us figuring it out
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  anyways. Back-to-back to shooting indoor.
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  Pretty such old man land right now.
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  Oh. Yeah.
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  Yeah, you know, bring it back around.
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  We got one hour to cover so many things, so many, so many topics.
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  Any other thoughts on indoor shooting?
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  Did you find it fun? You know what, you know what it
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  felt like, You know what it felt like because it's a simple task
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  from 1:00. There's a fatigue factor if
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  you're not shooting a bunch, right?
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  So there's a I'm dude, I'm shooting the pound is that I'm
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  shooting and I'm spread across like too many hobbies.
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  So I'll shoot like a couple arrows, you know, throughout the
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  week. I'm not sitting there in a
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  session in full honest transparency, shooting 30
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  arrows. So I started off like X1010 or
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  it's X109 or something like that.
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  And then it was like 10 fairly, fairly good.
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  But then shoulder started to wear down.
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  Yeah, got tired, right. So like that's a factor, just
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  shooting conditioning, which is not the same as a run, like
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  cardio, normal cardio. And then it kind of gave me
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  vibes of just sitting at the free throw line shooting.
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  It's a free throw is super simple, but like add a little
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  bit of pressure, add a little bit of put it on the line.
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  And that's kind of what I like about it too, because it keeps
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  you in that. It keeps you in that clutch
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  mode, right? Because I feel like a lot of
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  times when we hunt, we shoot at this big bell and there's no
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  consequences because even if you're off, you're still you're
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  not going to lose an arrow. So if you never dial down to
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  something that small where though that little bit, that
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  inch off, you know, or really millimeters off changes the
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  dynamic of the score, may maybe makes you lose.
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  I think we that's something that we may not get right a lot.
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  And just the bow hunting community.
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  What? Ended.
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  Very much so too. That is, you know, we talk about
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  a a good hunting shot and a good hunting shots the size of like
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  could be a dinner plate decide depending on the animal could be
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  a size of a Turkey dinner plate down to like maybe a dessert
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  plate. But that's the size of the
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  entire reef that's out to the 6th and indoor target.
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  And so I think it brings back into reality, like if you want
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  to really hone in, you know, you go hunting and you think, oh
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  God, 20 yard shots can be a chip shot on an animal.
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  You might have a great hunting shot.
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  Great. It sounds easy when you're
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  hunting an animal. But then are you really taking
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  seriously what it means to make a good 20 yard shot?
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  Because you do indoor and you realize, granted, all of those
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  you shot are great shots if it were on an animal.
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  But do you want to better your chances of always making that
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  type of shot in an animal Sitting there and shooting 30
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  arrows in a row at just 20 yards that we all call chip shot.
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  It's going to really make you realize, OK, now I can be better
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  or should be better and eventually will be better at
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  increasing odds of always making that good chip shot, 20 yard
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  shot. So I just think that's an
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  interesting, I call it, it humbles you going indoor.
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  I straight up just quit after round 6 was like this sucks.
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  I'm just all over that little, you know, pie plate size, you
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  know? Sorry for anybody who rolls
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  their eyes and tired of hearing about jiu jitsu, but like it's
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  the why I why I'm so big on you should get into a fight in a
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  controlled area because like getting used to like that.
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  Oh my God, my heart just went from zero to 1000.
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  But now, like my hands ain't working right and I still got to
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  somehow perform. It's the same thing that's
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  happening on that line. Now you're the last person
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  shooting because maybe you know, you're pulling from a quiver
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  when everybody's pulling out of the thing.
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  So now you got one more arrow to fly and everybody is waiting for
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  you to finish. So they're all looking at you
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  before they can go and you know, clear and walk down.
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  All of that is so good to train your nervous system so you don't
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  just block out. I'm kind of fortunate because I
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  for the last 10 years I've been in a, a spot where I can hunt
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  literally every day. But if you're in a place where
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  you have to wait a season, you're going to get dull to that
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  like to that adrenaline dump and it's going to be weird for you
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  to fill it again. I, I may see, I may come to full
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  draw on probably 10 plus axis deer at least per year and
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  double that in pigs per year, right?
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  Like, and I still get, you know, I'll still feel that from zero
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  to 100. So imagine, I can't imagine
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  having to wait a whole another year to try it again.
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  That's crazy. That's crazy to me.
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  Yeah. Dude that's a good point.
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  That is a unique part about Hawaii.
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  It's just the ability to hunt the goats, pigs or access year
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  round in different terrains, different types of animals that
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  is unique to that location. I mean, a lot of places you can
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  hunt pigs year round, but that's usually about it.
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  Them and coyotes. So for to have several things
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  pretty cool. You know that that that is a
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  cool part about Hawaii. And one thing I was wondering
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  when we were out there that I would be curious to know is are
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  there any like predators? Are there coyotes?
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  Are there mountain lions, Bobcats?
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  Nothing, nothing. No, that's so.
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  Crazy. That's about it.
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  That's as predatory as it gets. Is is pigs?
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  Wow. And I guess.
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  Maybe the like you said, there was some wild dogs or dogs that
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  people would have sometimes. Yeah, maybe they'll.
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  Yeah, but that's about it. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So no, you're not dealing with
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  Cougars you're not dealing with. Garbage.
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  Yeah. That's it.
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  That's crazy. Dude, you know what's kind of
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  wild? So that goat I shot, I'm sure I
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  told you when we were out there, but he had actually been shot
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  before in the like upper back. He had a friggin BIG2 blade
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  monster so. Yeah.
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  It was all healed up like he would have been good to go.
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  It didn't have hair yet, but it was sealed up like a scab and he
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  was ready to RIP. But you could tell you've been
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  shot right through the top of the back and it's not.
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  Like he stayed in bed rest. Like we if we had procedure we
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  would stay in bedded. He didn't stay in bedded and
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  follow some doctor's orders. He's still running around and
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  healing. I freaking loved goat hunting.
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  I loved it. I love the terrain.
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  I love how gnarly it was and just like everything's in
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  prickers and nasty is super steep is just like it was
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  gnarly. I mean it was good tough
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  terrain, tough animals to hunt and that's that I love that kind
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  of hunting. I love a good luxurious hunt
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  too, but I really like those ones where you got to grind it
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  out and you know, we're going back to Hawaii this year.
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  For the Axis hunt. There's three spots left.
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  hooveshornshideaways.com. If you want to get the last
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  three spots. It may be sold by the time this
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  is out, but we were thinking actually about staying another
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  week and doing the goats again in the same spot.
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  I'll be up there in the next two weeks.
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  If I get cleared the MRI I will be back up there shooting the
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  last couple Easton 5 point O's that I got left in my quick.
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  Yeah, I've. Already I've game planned and
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  I've already, you know, one also, we probably beat this to a
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  dead horse. So like between potting or or
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  videos or whatnot, like I've all of this.
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  So I was like at the start of it's called a.
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  Health. Journey when I made it out to
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  Hawaii and that was probably like my heaviest ever in my
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  whole. So you're ready?
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  To test yourself again and. We've been doing it through the
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  last few hunts we've been on and even like Ted's noticed it and
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  whatnot. Like my endurance level, my, you
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  know, stamina. And so I'm like in my head, I'm
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  like, all right, Nope. I do know where I would like,
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  you know, potentially to go and and sit and wait them out like
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  we did this past trip. But also I'm like at least a
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  couple times because I'm like, in my head, I'm like this kind
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  of work. I saw so many of them hanging
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  out up there and that was another like 80 plus yards.
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  I needed to go up higher and it turns into like rock climbing at
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  that point in like you can't, can't go up.
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  So I'm like, now I got this game plan like I'm going to start
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  from the long point of the the mountain.
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  I'm going to side hill all the way up the ridges all the way to
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  the top and then come down at them so that like I'm out there
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  and they're like, you know where we saw them when we were leaving
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  that final day and I was like, F you goats.
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  They're like literally skylined on the top.
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  And I'm like, Nope, I'm going to start by morning up there with
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  the goats at the very top. So that's always.
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  Been my game plan, yeah. But I couldn't like the way we
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  came in. Also couldn't.
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  I don't even know am I like strength now if I could do it
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  just literally because of the height portion the Ridge I took.
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  You guys to. Well, from there we would cross
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  to the. This would be.
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  To the South, OK. Yeah, 'cause you can get all the
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  way that Ridge, if you just follow that up, you can go
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  straight all the way up to that fence line.
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  The problem? Is she doesn't have the cojones
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  for that? It is sketchy.
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  It's sketchy. When you follow that one, I
• 20:05
  think we went there one day and I literally I could have still
• 20:12
  kept going quite a ways if not all the way.
• 20:15
  Like height wise climbing wasn't going to be the issue.
• 20:19
  It was just like I looked down once and then say.
• 20:26
  She, she, she, she's cracking me up right now because she gets
• 20:31
  real sketched out of like steep stuff or heights.
• 20:33
  So I'm like she, she's gonna be, I don't know.
• 20:37
  I don't know. She's starting from the she
• 20:38
  might be talking of gassing herself up.
• 20:41
  I I know where you wanna go. It's gonna be steep, though.
• 20:43
  Still, it's gonna be as deep as a master, but I don't think.
• 20:46
  It'll be sheer on either. See to the.
• 20:50
  Top it will be sure on either side, but the walk up I don't
• 20:53
  think will be yeah so but where we went the majority of the time
• 20:58
  I call it to the right like from that that place we walked and
• 21:02
  stomped that it's like that would be.
• 21:04
  South this way. Yeah, right.
• 21:06
  S yes, South. And I don't do northwest SE, I
• 21:11
  do left, right on the corner of the intersection where the stop
• 21:14
  sign in the yellow building. I got to pause you.
• 21:16
  There because we we come from the same active duty place and
• 21:20
  you telling me you don't do carnal directions that's crazy
• 21:25
  that's why you've. Never been.
• 21:27
  Good at them. I try my hardest to get better
• 21:30
  at them and they just never come to me.
• 21:33
  I'm like did. They smoke you in OCS.
• 21:35
  They had they they did it never come up.
• 21:37
  Yeah. And that really?
• 21:38
  I guess came up more. We just dealt with MOW boards a
• 21:41
  lot. As long as I could solve a MOW
• 21:42
  board I was fine. Which props on.
• 21:44
  That that was a hard props on that a MOW board.
• 21:48
  Is. Have you ever heard of a MOW
• 21:51
  board? No, it's short for maneuvering
• 21:54
  boards. Right?
• 21:56
  I don't. I don't want to bore everybody
• 21:57
  with this. Essentially it's a way to tell
• 22:00
  which way aircraft are going, ships are going or whatever
• 22:03
  without like radar. So you take a you can visually
• 22:06
  tell where they're at and you get a bearing to them and
• 22:09
  overtime you observe them every like 3 minutes or 5 minutes and
• 22:14
  based off of that you can tell speed.
• 22:16
  And direction, you'll be able to say it's like a math problem on
• 22:20
  the echoed the F cat like your standardized testing like in 7
• 22:25
  minutes at a speed of 25 knots, this ship is traveling due N at
• 22:31
  295 degrees or whatever. Where will they be in 7 minutes?
• 22:35
  And then it turns. Into trig, right?
• 22:37
  Because now you, because you get their relative bearing and you
• 22:40
  know you're true. You know your course.
• 22:42
  So based off of that, you can tell with this angle is which
• 22:46
  tells you where they're at. And then you can develop their
• 22:48
  course, their speed and then their closest point of approach.
• 22:51
  So you don't hit. Then they throw in there, you
• 22:53
  got to make a decision on which way to turn because they're
• 22:56
  going to hit you. And then another ship is coming.
• 22:58
  Anyways, we might have to edit this out.
• 22:59
  We might have lost. I love it.
• 23:05
  I love it's very. Easy and hard math at the same
• 23:09
  time. Like because if you it's easy
• 23:11
  math in a way, but if you mess one step up within the it's
• 23:15
  wrong. And then you have to remember
• 23:18
  rules of the road, who gets to stay, who keeps the OK?
• 23:20
  We're in a head on situation, who's the stand on vessel, who
• 23:24
  is the giveaway vessel? We're in a crossing, we're in a
• 23:26
  overtaking and enough. Nerd Talk.
• 23:28
  Wow, that was exciting. It was riveting.
• 23:33
  Especially when. I'm already tired.
• 23:36
  I'm tired, ball back in the. Old days if like in a.
• 23:41
  The. Blinking radar and you get a
• 23:43
  little blip. Blink green.
• 23:45
  Blink this blue. Blue.
• 23:47
  Yes, blue. My like the mow board is
• 23:50
  literally just like OK here's 1 bloop and I need to find this
• 23:54
  bloop in 7 minutes. Sounds fun, You know those?
• 23:58
  World War 2 vets that were dog fighting like oh geez bro yeah,
• 24:01
  gangsters back then. To do it like that fast, because
• 24:04
  that was the only way they could do it.
• 24:06
  And come up with a firing solution on the moving vessel
• 24:09
  and shoot a torpedo at them. All of them working at it at the
• 24:13
  same time. Like props to all of them.
• 24:16
  That's how wars were really won. Like, good on you, soldier.
• 24:19
  American. Gangster.
• 24:20
  That's why we are back-to-back World War champs.
• 24:23
  Let's go, let's go. Shout out to.
• 24:27
  Denzel Denzel Great movie. Honestly, I'd say Pete Denzel.
• 24:32
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• 24:37
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• 24:41
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• 24:52
  Anyways, we were talking about all of that because I don't go
• 24:55
  north from South. If you go South, there's a
• 25:00
  ridgeline that it's really when you're in there, it's like a
• 25:02
  giant bowl, you know. And so I wouldn't be on the
• 25:06
  right side of the bowl. Like if you're looking into the
• 25:09
  bowl and there's like a jungle like section that they come down
• 25:14
  during the middle of the day too.
• 25:16
  And I'm like, but they're not there all day.
• 25:19
  They go out from there, disperse and feed and climb up through
• 25:22
  the rocks. But that section above the tree
• 25:24
  line that gets real rocky is not like the fingers side that you
• 25:30
  go up. There are no fingers.
• 25:33
  It's just fingers. I mean, like Ridge lines that go
• 25:37
  up to the top skyline. They're just like rocky cliffs
• 25:41
  and you gonna climb. That we.
• 25:43
  Climbed a couple y'all crazy and I was like no, I literally at
• 25:47
  one point finally reached the point where like I couldn't even
• 25:50
  set my bow up to reach anymore. So it's like there's nothing.
• 25:55
  I would be free climbing at that point.
• 25:57
  Just putting my foot into something and hoping that lava
• 26:00
  rock is going to hold up while I pull myself up to the top.
• 26:03
  You would have been a. Real life.
• 26:04
  Alex Honnold. Yeah.
• 26:06
  You would have seen me fall what I'm.
• 26:07
  Gonna need y'all to do is not come to my home and die.
• 26:10
  Yeah, don't do those rocks. The the most nimble.
• 26:14
  I'm telling you people who I would say the most, some of the
• 26:18
  most nimble people I know. I've watched them like go for
• 26:21
  some slides and but by the grace I got like, yeah, so like just
• 26:28
  keep this dude tame a little bit.
• 26:31
  He's the one you have to worry about, that's what I'm saying.
• 26:33
  Keep him tamed a little bit. He.
• 26:36
  Knows too like his coordination. Then we're back to couples
• 26:41
  therapy. Seems like he's like you.
• 26:45
  Better not. He'll be.
• 26:47
  He'll be, you know, shooting a business text and and fill it a
• 26:51
  short while. He's walking down a ridgeline
• 26:54
  that, you know, drops off to a Cliff on one side and just la de
• 26:58
  da. And then he'll slip out from his
• 27:00
  feet and I'll yell and be like, calm down back there.
• 27:02
  I'm like, you literally almost just fell to your desk and he's
• 27:05
  just like calm down. So no, so I'm I'm opted out of
• 27:10
  that direction. But if you start from the very
• 27:13
  bottom, there's a long way up and it's slow and steady.
• 27:20
  But that's the way I want to go up and basically just like work
• 27:24
  the whole, yeah. 'Cause when you go my Ridge,
• 27:27
  what what sucks is when you come back down, there's some spots
• 27:29
  where you have to jump down like you can't, just like you can't
• 27:33
  sit on your butt and like your foot reach.
• 27:35
  So you have to just say, OK, I could see death, death, but this
• 27:39
  pad is about 2-3 feet like you. You just have to allow your feet
• 27:44
  to come off the ground for a second to get back down.
• 27:46
  Yes, Yeah, I. Do that stuff in like Arizona in
• 27:49
  like a wash where you know, I'm the lowest of low.
• 27:54
  So that 6 foot little drop off this rock in the wash is like,
• 27:58
  and I can't fall to my death on either side.
• 28:01
  Like there was one time this last trip in Arizona that James
• 28:05
  picked this route down. Basically a figure very similar
• 28:09
  to the one we went up one just like where you go up and we went
• 28:14
  down another one very similar to that.
• 28:16
  And it gets to like, it would look almost like the lava rock,
• 28:20
  like dark, dark Gray, black. But it was like Shaily, like
• 28:24
  sand and rock. And he's like, this is the last
• 28:28
  deep section. It's fine.
• 28:29
  Just come down. And I watch him go down it and
• 28:31
  I'm like, here's the ground. And here's James.
• 28:35
  Like nothing about this looks even remotely possible.
• 28:40
  I don't even know how your boots are gripping the ground at this
• 28:43
  point. And I had to, I call it subway
• 28:48
  surfing the game. I go subway surfing a lot in
• 28:51
  Arizona because if it's too steep, I just get down squat.
• 28:56
  And I use my legs to like slide down.
• 28:59
  And then I'll just start shimmying with my feet if I stop
• 29:02
  moving and just keep going some more.
• 29:05
  But it's easier to do that when you don't see death on either
• 29:08
  side of feet. And now was the time we went up
• 29:11
  your direction. I was like, he sent me a picture
• 29:14
  and he's just like sitting down straddling either side of the
• 29:17
  Ridge and like, so that's the Ridge this wide up there.
• 29:21
  Like ain't no way. I mean do it that.
• 29:24
  Picture up there in the corner y'all can't see it says it all
• 29:27
  though. That's death all around him,
• 29:30
  right? Cliffhanger.
• 29:33
  Cliff. But all of that say when we go,
• 29:38
  I've I've game planned like being a little bit stronger and
• 29:42
  having some more endurance of like I will make sure I'm
• 29:45
  leaving with a goat this. Time.
• 29:48
  And I've got plenty midway up too.
• 29:50
  Oh yeah. You know, I shot mine.
• 29:52
  I would, I would say, well, we actually both shot 1.
• 29:54
  Hers just went somewhere unrecoverable.
• 29:56
  But yeah, it was about I would say it was like midway found a
• 30:00
  pocket and I would I would have been more than down to go up to
• 30:04
  the higher country too. But she was just that was too
• 30:08
  steep is testing her limits. But nonetheless, it it worked.
• 30:11
  The same plan would work again. But I did see some I did see
• 30:16
  some real mature goats up there and but the one I shot ended up
• 30:19
  being quite nice. He was the nicest in a group of
• 30:22
  about probably about 20. There was 1.
• 30:26
  Whopper up there or? You know, you've seen told us
• 30:29
  about showing pictures of have. I'm like, now we're going to go
• 30:32
  where the whoppers are. Yeah.
• 30:34
  Though, I mean, you're not going to want to eat as though I
• 30:36
  guarantee that. Yeah, yeah, I like struggled
• 30:39
  through every one of those decent sized coats.
• 30:41
  Yeah, it's it's miserable. The nannies taste like just.
• 30:44
  You just make. Red meat like that.
• 30:46
  They're but the Billy goats bro. Oh my God.
• 30:49
  Oh. Geez.
• 30:50
  Oh, Heath Marsha, like the Billy.
• 30:52
  Goats taste so much worse than the they're running.
• 30:54
  Up yeah, I got some footage of like some wild stuff going on
• 30:59
  with them goats, like brutal. They are brutal like.
• 31:05
  Yeah, so. They they their tests are up.
• 31:07
  Their testosterone is just so freaking high and they just get
• 31:11
  I mean, and they're peeing on themselves constantly and it's
• 31:14
  just, they're just marinating themselves and stink.
• 31:16
  Yeah, they. Stink.
• 31:18
  Yeah, you. Can't, you can wrap the meat up
• 31:20
  and like double bag it like butcher paper, all of that.
• 31:24
  You're sometimes like if they're really read it up, you're going
• 31:27
  to smell it through that. They're like, you know how like
• 31:30
  a a big nasty pig is. That's that's what the goat
• 31:33
  smoke. Yeah, it's just I'll shoot.
• 31:35
  I'll take a nanny now any day. Yeah, I need one with.
• 31:39
  I need one with thorn. You need.
• 31:41
  One with some Joe Rio, yeah. I do any, you know any little 1
• 31:47
  though? But I do want to go all the way
• 31:48
  to the top just because you got to touch.
• 31:50
  You got to touch the fence. We'll see.
• 31:51
  What happens? We'll see what happens.
• 31:53
  I'm going to. Make it up there.
• 31:55
  So we'll see the only. Thing about can't say too much,
• 32:01
  you know, but yeah, don't. Don't give up.
• 32:04
  Don't hello. Don't spot numbers.
• 32:06
  Don't you dare. I got.
• 32:07
  I got to go. Back there now, not leave.
• 32:10
  In all good conscience, my vehicle where it needed to be
• 32:13
  left to go to cover a good portion of the hike in the dark.
• 32:18
  Lizzie because of. Things just.
• 32:22
  Just get the insurance, yeah, on the rental.
• 32:25
  There's a reason, you know, they they factor that in.
• 32:28
  OK, get the insurance on the vehicle.
• 32:30
  You have to get the. Insurance make sure you get.
• 32:32
  The insurance. That was the sole thing keeping
• 32:37
  me slash, I think, from having to park where you'd have to
• 32:41
  park, get the. Insurance and then send it and
• 32:44
  if you guys come back down and the vehicle is jacked up or even
• 32:48
  gone, call me and I'll make sure you get a ride get another
• 32:52
  vehicle like exactly if somebody steals the vehicle, I mean it's
• 32:56
  they didn't steal your vehicle. It is what it.
• 32:58
  Is you know is that. Unethical, you remember.
• 33:01
  That TV show back in the day called like what was it called
• 33:05
  trap car or something where they car bank car.
• 33:08
  That's right. They would leave keys in the car
• 33:11
  with the door open and people would hop in to steal the car
• 33:15
  and it's all on film. But as soon as they would hop in
• 33:18
  and drive off the lock, they it would the car would shut off and
• 33:21
  it's locked. So then the cop, they would
• 33:24
  start I forgetting out and cops would pull up on them and oh, it
• 33:27
  was great. Oh.
• 33:29
  Yeah, that was on the free. That was the free channel days.
• 33:31
  Yeah, yeah, 100. Percent and and then, like you
• 33:34
  had America's most wanting cops. It was just a wild era of TV.
• 33:38
  But that you know, cops is back on now.
• 33:42
  I don't know about bait car. I'm not sure bait car is on, but
• 33:46
  that was good stuff. But OK, so all right, we we also
• 33:52
  shot outdoor. We shot at room bowel archery
• 33:55
  range in Balboa Park your first time there.
• 33:58
  So let's go. You shot this trip at
• 34:00
  Performance Archery Indoor. You've shot at Morley Field
• 34:05
  Range. What'd you think of Morley
• 34:07
  Field? Morley.
• 34:08
  Was cool because it looked like somebody that range gave me the
• 34:13
  vibe that somebody looked at a plot of land and said this would
• 34:16
  be smart for a range, right? Not like it.
• 34:19
  There was some thought, there was some thought put into it.
• 34:22
  It was actually in a bowl. So it was a natural like
• 34:25
  windbreak and then there was trees all around.
• 34:27
  So while it's not as good as being a performance archery to,
• 34:30
  you know, just dial everything with no wind, but it was about
• 34:34
  as close as you can get at a range shooting at my home range,
• 34:39
  right? I mean, you windy all day.
• 34:42
  The YPO range, you got to catch it at a certain time.
• 34:45
  I'm not going to give the certain time because I would
• 34:47
  like to have some time to be able to shoot.
• 34:50
  But there is a spots that you can slide into at that range
• 34:54
  where it it's the same. But that one seems well thought
• 34:57
  out. There's lights above.
• 34:58
  So if you want to looks like they do like a Friday night
• 35:01
  light shoot or something like that.
• 35:03
  It looks like this. These like archery places were
• 35:09
  like created by people who actually love archery And like
• 35:13
  they didn't, I don't know, like where we're at in Hawaii.
• 35:16
  It's almost like somebody's like, huh, take this little
• 35:18
  piece, you know, take this little piece and get out of my
• 35:20
  face for your little archery hobby.
• 35:22
  You know what I mean? Whereas it looks like somehow
• 35:25
  y'all out here got some prime real estate.
• 35:27
  I think a lot. Of the ranges or of those two
• 35:29
  specifically, Morley and Rube Powell, I think have just been
• 35:33
  there a long, long time. So that's, I almost think they
• 35:37
  swooped up the real estate. Yeah.
• 35:40
  So I think they swooped up the real estate or had leases to it
• 35:43
  before it, you know, maybe got so condensed and expensive.
• 35:47
  But I will say this, that one range that we shot that we
• 35:50
  filmed with the custom 3D targets, I had a great time
• 35:53
  there. That's like goaded.
• 35:54
  For me, that's my favorite of all time.
• 35:56
  That range I loved. It the targets are cool, the
• 35:59
  terrain is cool. I loved it.
• 36:02
  I had a great time shooting that day.
• 36:04
  Fun little contest. But then today we shot at Rube
• 36:07
  Powell. So it was your first time there.
• 36:11
  What did you think of that spot? It's because it's quite a bit
• 36:13
  different than Morley. Morley's flat and you just have
• 36:16
  10 to 100 yards. This place is like hills and
• 36:19
  mountains, and you're walking around and different target
• 36:23
  sets. Like what did you kind of think
• 36:24
  of like disc? Golf vibes, I'm a fan.
• 36:28
  I prefer that's if I if I have to choose somewhere to shoot,
• 36:31
  that's that is my like a plus answer right there.
• 36:36
  That's why I like Kapolei over in Hawaii because you get to
• 36:39
  walk around. Now it's not as windy and twisty
• 36:41
  as Rue Powell, but yeah, I'm a fan.
• 36:46
  The now we'll sketchy though. I think he's next to a highway,
• 36:49
  but yeah, there's less than that's next to the Interstate.
• 36:52
  I'm like y'all, all these cars are trusting that when I put my
• 36:56
  bow back together, I didn't miss tightening down the screw right
• 36:59
  now and not thinning the arrow. So that is kind.
• 37:02
  Of crazy, like it's been in that same location.
• 37:06
  I mean, I've been shooting there since probably 2004, 2005 and
• 37:11
  it's been there like I told you, I'm pretty sure since the 40s.
• 37:15
  And so has the that highway. That freeway has been there a
• 37:19
  long time too. And to my knowledge, I mean I
• 37:22
  don't believe an arrow has ever like hit a car or anything.
• 37:26
  Just jinxed. It Isn't that crazy though.
• 37:28
  I mean they are the. Likelihoods though that that has
• 37:31
  never happened is I think. It's been sent over there.
• 37:34
  I think it just may have not made contact.
• 37:36
  So last year, yeah, kind of crazy.
• 37:38
  I had to replace my windshield. Heading West, like almost
• 37:40
  towards the range and I thought a rock hit my windshield.
• 37:44
  So I go and I drop my, I drop my vehicle off heading to work or
• 37:48
  whatever, and I go and check my phone when I come out of work
• 37:51
  and it is blown up in messages from Safelite, they're like,
• 37:55
  hey, Mr. Thompson, hey, could you call us back?
• 37:56
  It's an emergency. They call, I call them back.
• 37:59
  They're like there was a bullet in your windshield, a freaking
• 38:03
  bullet in my windshield. So I don't know if it like
• 38:07
  skipped off the ground or what, but the top frame kind of like
• 38:10
  where that front, my front camera sensor is, it was lodged
• 38:14
  in there. So bro, bro, they're like they
• 38:17
  gave it to me, bagged up for police report and everything.
• 38:20
  I don't think somebody shot, just a random one, but I think
• 38:22
  it just kind of like it was in the road maybe and skipped
• 38:25
  somebody at some point discharged around on the H1 and
• 38:29
  I was heading West. I was like, Oh my God, that's
• 38:31
  an. Insane story dead center.
• 38:35
  High, yeah. Yeah, Dang, that that, well,
• 38:38
  blessing you didn't come through the windshield #1 and #2 at
• 38:42
  least now you have some St. credibility to say you've been
• 38:45
  in a drive by. Sort of, you know what I mean?
• 38:47
  I don't you. Know what?
• 38:48
  But. You.
• 38:49
  Were I don't know if. You're driving by this.
• 38:52
  I don't know if I want that streak because I you know what I
• 38:56
  mean? I try to throw people off with
• 38:58
  the privileged bow hunter name. So like I I I don't know if I
• 39:01
  want to regress to drive by shree Craigslist.
• 39:05
  Yeah. You know, well, plus like, I
• 39:08
  don't know if it counts. Well.
• 39:13
  I also like if you my credit score.
• 39:15
  Just dropped out. Yeah, she had.
• 39:17
  Dogs are barking, birds are chirping, white picket fence,
• 39:19
  but if. You think about it, right?
• 39:21
  Like the logistics of it, I don't know like it can, it can't
• 39:26
  be a drive by if it's opposite like 'cause like.
• 39:29
  He did the. Driving by, not the shooting.
• 39:32
  So it's like, you know. What he?
• 39:35
  He got that's crazy. So wait a minute, let let me try
• 39:38
  to I got to try to figure this situation out.
• 39:41
  He hit me. With you're saying?
• 39:42
  There was a that. Was there a gun range nearby?
• 39:45
  No gun range. Over there, there's nothing.
• 39:46
  No houses. Like what's around?
• 39:48
  Is it a rural area? Like this is so great, so you.
• 39:51
  Remember heading out to Kapole H1 W right to the right, you got
• 39:55
  and got those heels. And if you pay, there's like
• 39:58
  some, there's some cattle up there.
• 40:00
  That's that's it, that's it, That's it.
• 40:04
  We're past. We're talking, we're past.
• 40:05
  Why Kelly? We're past the Eva exit that's.
• 40:09
  Crazy, dude. Wow.
• 40:11
  Well, at least now that I'm happy, you're all good because I
• 40:13
  could have been bad, but I do it.
• 40:15
  It is crazy because like you wonder if I'm charged a
• 40:18
  discharge bullet could have just been like you said, maybe just
• 40:21
  sitting on the road and someone off their tire, off their tire
• 40:24
  like a rock. But then that probably wouldn't
• 40:27
  work because it wouldn't have probably hit like it would have
• 40:31
  hit sideways or something most likely or backwards like I don't
• 40:34
  know. And then I don't know if it
• 40:35
  would lodge in the windshield like a shout out to.
• 40:38
  Shout out to. Safelite shout.
• 40:40
  Out to Elon, though, Elon building the the glass that, you
• 40:44
  know, the glass that could protect the president,
• 40:46
  apparently, Yeah, yeah. True facts.
• 40:48
  So OK, so we shot indoor and then we shot today at Rubell.
• 40:53
  So today we did some pretty fun challenges.
• 40:56
  By the way, this video is going to be on a Privilege Bow Hunter
• 41:00
  channel, so if you guys want to see it pop over to Privilege Bow
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  Hunter, be sure to smash the subscribe button, hit
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  privilegebowhunter.com and watch the video.
• 41:09
  Drop a comment if you're watching it right now to let us
• 41:14
  know what you think. And there are some questions for
• 41:16
  the audience in there as well. But we did quite a bit of
• 41:19
  unmarked today and I wouldn't say either of us did stellar.
• 41:24
  I'll say we did. I did OK.
• 41:26
  I think we we could have done better.
• 41:29
  There's room for improvement, but we're going to stay
• 41:32
  positive. Yes, I'd say that.
• 41:33
  Pretty. I mean the most you're ever off
• 41:35
  was only on one and it was by both marked like 10 yards off on
• 41:40
  a small target. That was the first one.
• 41:42
  Aside. From that it was usually you
• 41:44
  were both off by only 5 or less. That's why these.
• 41:46
  Folks who do unmarked or just goaded, bro, in my opinion,
• 41:49
  that's like my favorite to watch because man, you got to be a
• 41:53
  good guesser. And then like the the other part
• 41:57
  of it is in your mind when you got that you need to stick with
• 42:02
  your yardage, like don't say 40 and then I'm going to hold high
• 42:05
  with my 40 Pi. Like if you said 40, just just
• 42:08
  stick with it. Yeah, so good point.
• 42:12
  We, you know, I used to shoot a lot of unmarked, but because
• 42:17
  that's how even the local shoots used to do it as they would all
• 42:20
  be unmarked. So we shot unmarked all the time
• 42:23
  and then there became a time where it just wasn't a thing
• 42:26
  we're doing anymore. Like all of them switched to
• 42:28
  range finders, which makes sense.
• 42:30
  Like a lot of people want to go to practice for hunting and when
• 42:32
  you're hunting, you have a range Finder.
• 42:34
  So like it makes sense. But for practicing unmarked, you
• 42:40
  know, if I was ever to go start competing in unmarked for a
• 42:43
  year, like I would have to spend quite a bit of time practicing
• 42:47
  because right now I'm not good enough.
• 42:49
  Like it's hard. It's a, it's a, it's a skill,
• 42:51
  bro. Like it's one of those things
• 42:53
  you got to, it's a muscle you have to work, you know, just
• 42:56
  like anything else. But I I agree with you.
• 42:58
  I think it's so impressive when guys are or girls can go out
• 43:02
  there and go. I think it's like a strong 37.
• 43:06
  That's how they do a lot of times they'll be like, you know,
• 43:08
  I think it's like a strong 37. So I'm going to shoot for 38 and
• 43:15
  it could be 40. But it like they always like
• 43:17
  sort of bracket it and then try to find it.
• 43:19
  It's like a whole freaking problem.
• 43:21
  It's just cool. Yeah.
• 43:24
  You need to, I think it, I mean, it's what it, what it boils down
• 43:28
  to kind of what we did over these last couple days is almost
• 43:32
  like the MMA of the archery world, right?
• 43:34
  You, you did some target style stuff.
• 43:36
  You, you like. Good point.
• 43:38
  You got to be. Able to do it.
• 43:39
  All right, somebody grabs you, What are you going to do?
• 43:41
  Somebody is just striking with you, what are you going to do?
• 43:43
  And then here, just not, in my opinion, not ducking any smoke,
• 43:47
  like if we're going to, OK, we're going to step on this
• 43:49
  line, then let's step on this line.
• 43:52
  Look yourself. On the face and get better.
• 43:53
  We need to get better. All right?
• 43:54
  Now we're outside and now we're guessing.
• 43:56
  Well, guess better, nerd. Like the day, dude.
• 44:01
  I've always said that about hunting specifically that I
• 44:04
  think I think one of the keys to being a good, consistently
• 44:10
  successful hunter. So that's what's always most
• 44:13
  impressive to me is when hunters are consistent 6 like often, you
• 44:17
  know what I mean? Like a high percentage of the
• 44:19
  time. And to do that, I believe it
• 44:22
  helps a ton to be a very diverse, well-rounded hunter.
• 44:26
  Be like, OK, I'm, I'm competent and good at glassing.
• 44:31
  I feel comfortable in my spot and stock skills and using the
• 44:34
  wind being quiet. But I also can go sit for 12
• 44:37
  hours in a tree stand or I know how to build a pop up, you know,
• 44:41
  do a pop up blind or build my own ground blind like I'm or
• 44:45
  still hunting. Like the more skills that you
• 44:48
  can get proficient at hunting. All that does is help you in
• 44:54
  your toolkit. So when you go hunt some terrain
• 44:57
  that maybe you weren't really expecting, say you're thinking
• 45:01
  you're going to hunt flat desert and you're thinking, OK, I'll go
• 45:03
  out there and spot and stalk. But then you get there and all
• 45:05
  the animals are hanging out in timber.
• 45:07
  You're like, OK, well, luckily I brought a tree stand.
• 45:11
  I know how to hunt that way. Or I'll still hunt through it or
• 45:14
  sit a trail. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 45:17
  Sweet. Road hunting or Rd.
• 45:19
  Hunting, whatever. But I think like being more
• 45:22
  diverse. We're just playing.
• 45:24
  We're just playing. But being being more diverse is
• 45:27
  so much better than just saying like this is is the only way to
• 45:31
  skin a cat. And that's true in hunting and
• 45:33
  an archery and MMA. Like I think that's why MMA has
• 45:38
  probably become so popular over, you know, things like Bach.
• 45:41
  I mean, people still, there's still obviously an audience
• 45:44
  boxing, but not in comparison, you know what I mean?
• 45:47
  So I think you're right. I think being well-rounded,
• 45:51
  being good at multiple things, especially if they're in the
• 45:54
  same niche, you're just becoming more well-rounded in the knee.
• 45:59
  You just got to be. OK, with like going through that
• 46:01
  time period of just not being good and established.
• 46:05
  I feel like some people, I'm coming from a unique perspective
• 46:08
  because I, I didn't start this as a child, right?
• 46:11
  Like dad didn't hand me a bow. I started this as an adult,
• 46:15
  right? So part of the reason why I love
• 46:17
  a couple archery range so much is John and Leslie were there
• 46:20
  when my first arrows. They watched me destroy 3 arrows
• 46:23
  in a row and they were like brother I'm here.
• 46:28
  You know that's insane. Like be OK with looking like a
• 46:32
  fool. Like be figure out whatever you
• 46:35
  need to do whatever is holding you back.
• 46:37
  Not turn this into some weird therapy session, but whatever
• 46:40
  that doesn't allow you to try something new because you don't
• 46:42
  want to look dumb at it. Bro just freaking just go.
• 46:46
  Fact. Just go dude.
• 46:48
  I love that I got AI. Got a question for y'all though
• 46:51
  because I didn't stir the pot on on 3 platforms right now.
• 46:56
  Two of them are like they're still arguing.
• 46:58
  They're arguing to this moment. Should Dun Dun Dun crossbows be
• 47:04
  allowed and archery see go quick from.
• 47:09
  The hip. Now firstly I'll say that like
• 47:12
  this isn't really as pressing of an issue where we're from than
• 47:17
  it is like back East. It's not really a thing.
• 47:22
  Like I mean it is some but for the most part western states
• 47:25
  like people can only hunt with a crossbow if they have like a
• 47:28
  doctor's note. Not during archery season.
• 47:31
  Typically in states where we frequent, but I know back east a
• 47:35
  lot in whitetail states they have a lot of times crossbow is
• 47:40
  in archery season. My thought on it has always sort
• 47:43
  of been that I think you should only be able to use a crossbow
• 47:47
  during archery season if you have an injury note like you're
• 47:51
  in in unable to shoot a compound bow or a recurve or Longbow.
• 47:56
  Or if you want to hunt with a crossbow, I think it makes more
• 48:00
  sense to lump it in with muzzle loader season, and I'll tell you
• 48:03
  why. I personally believe that a
• 48:06
  crossbow is a more parallel or equal weapon to a muzzle loader
• 48:15
  than it is to a a bow, in my opinion.
• 48:18
  So to me, I don't think crossbows should be illegal to
• 48:20
  hunt with. I think they just should put it
• 48:23
  in a different season or I'm totally fine if people have a
• 48:28
  blown out shoulder, you know what I mean?
• 48:30
  Like I'm I'm fine with that, totally fine with and I think
• 48:33
  that's cool, but to just lump it as a bow when people who look, a
• 48:40
  compound bow is much easier to shoot than a recurve or a
• 48:42
  Longbow, no doubt about it. But I could not hand my compound
• 48:46
  bow to somebody I just meet on the street.
• 48:50
  Even if they're my same size, it can pull it back and they're
• 48:53
  not. They are not going to be able to
• 48:55
  shoot it proficiently for at least, let's say a week if they
• 48:59
  were practicing every single day.
• 49:01
  And the Todas? Are going to be cooked before
• 49:02
  they can eat and that and. That's best case scenario, a
• 49:05
  week. It's probably going to be more
• 49:07
  like a month and a crossbow. You're hitting the freaking
• 49:11
  middle within like three shots of the scopes on and you have a
• 49:15
  good bench. Rest best.
• 49:16
  Best case scenario, they still couldn't do it even if you
• 49:20
  handed them a bow that was perfectly tailored to them.
• 49:25
  Even if you went and got their peeps sided in to where they
• 49:28
  could see if you set the drawing for them a poundage that they
• 49:31
  could pull back, set up their site for them and sided it in
• 49:35
  and handed them the bow and said go home and you.
• 49:39
  Couldn't do. It because it takes practice.
• 49:42
  Where is if this way when you fully explain the muzzle loader
• 49:46
  thing, because I was ready to put it in rifle season complete
• 49:51
  going in traditional weapons at all.
• 49:55
  But when he explained it, it makes the most sense in the what
• 49:59
  do they call primitive? Archery is primitive weapon, but
• 50:03
  the Muzz loader has its own season a lot of time being a
• 50:06
  primitive weapon separate from rifle and archery, and it makes
• 50:11
  the most sense there because it is.
• 50:14
  It is primitive in a sense that it's still a crossbow, but I
• 50:19
  mean, like it doesn't. It's not like loading a a the
• 50:24
  string on a tribe bow where like it takes a level of effort and
• 50:28
  force to, you know, you know, pull that thing back and lock it
• 50:32
  in place like there's well, it depends.
• 50:34
  On the type of crossbow. So some of you have to actually
• 50:36
  pull back and then some have like reels on them but but also.
• 50:42
  You also can have scopes on a crossbow.
• 50:46
  I get people say, well, well, you can put magnification and
• 50:49
  clarification on your your compound bow.
• 50:52
  Yeah, up to 8 power, and half the time that most people's eyes
• 50:55
  can't do a clarifier and eight power.
• 50:59
  So my clarifier and magnification to your scope are
• 51:07
  nowhere near the same thing, your red dot nowhere near the
• 51:11
  same thing, your trigger, you literally pull nowhere near the
• 51:16
  same thing. I mean a.
• 51:19
  Release is pretty similar to a trigger but but I mean I.
• 51:23
  Don't think so like. The speeds.
• 51:26
  Which stays probable compared to a.
• 51:30
  Let me let me break it down. Let let me no way get.
• 51:32
  Them out. Let me.
• 51:34
  Break it down though, I do believe that.
• 51:38
  I think the best example is just take your classic noob, you know
• 51:41
  what I mean. Walk into your church or the
• 51:43
  grocery Mart and bring out the cashier and say hey, here's two
• 51:46
  things both loaded up. There's a arrow in the compound
• 51:51
  bow, there's a index release on it, and then there's a crossbow
• 51:56
  with a scope and a bolt. Load it up and say, all right,
• 52:00
  try to hit the center of that target.
• 52:03
  It's going to be so much easier with the crossbow.
• 52:05
  For a total noob, let's just be realistic.
• 52:07
  So and look, look, and here here's another reason why I love
• 52:11
  the muzzle loader comparison. Is it still as tough to caulk
• 52:16
  and load a crossbow like, especially if it's not the types
• 52:19
  that have like a real system or something along those lines.
• 52:22
  And it's also very hard to load up a muzzle loader.
• 52:25
  Like you got to know how to put the powder, put the little
• 52:29
  separator, put, you know, use a ramrod to put the bullet in.
• 52:33
  Like there's steps to it, much like there is on a crossbow.
• 52:35
  So it's and they shoot, I mean, muzzle loaders now can shoot
• 52:39
  very far, but a lot of times they won't let you use certain
• 52:42
  types of muzzle loader during muzzle loader season.
• 52:45
  So like the from the distance you can shoot is also relatively
• 52:50
  comparable. Like maybe a hunt, like I think
• 52:52
  150 yards of the crossbow was not.
• 52:54
  I don't think that's crazy. Like I'm, I don't know about the
• 52:57
  sport. But I don't.
• 52:59
  Think that's crazy? 150 yard arrow out of your cops.
• 53:03
  Here's the thing A. 123 yards is a probably a chip shot with a
• 53:06
  with a crossbow now I could be told and how long.
• 53:09
  Like, you see, you've been shooting for over 20 years.
• 53:12
  Yeah, I, I'm, I've been at it for 10 years now fairly
• 53:15
  consistently to. Like, if you told somebody to go
• 53:18
  now, go fling your arrow at 124 yards like we did today.
• 53:20
  Yeah, You where is that going to hit?
• 53:24
  Not even anywhere close. Not not even in the same
• 53:26
  vicinity of it's not even. So what what do y'all say then
• 53:30
  to the folks who say, well, if you start this, this, this
• 53:33
  argument, where do you draw the line?
• 53:35
  Because well, if that's, if that's the point, then this is a
• 53:38
  comment I get all the time. Well, why don't, why don't we
• 53:41
  just limit archery season to tribals because compounds so
• 53:43
  much easier and there's let off and you don't have to.
• 53:46
  You know what I mean? What do you What do you say to
• 53:47
  people who argue about what they call a slippery slope?
• 53:51
  I agree that that is I, I agree with it that that is a slippery
• 53:56
  slope to us to to a point. I guess I don't have a good
• 54:01
  answer for that that I really thought about.
• 54:03
  All I can tell you is what I think initially here in the
• 54:06
  question, and I guess it would be that people have been hunting
• 54:10
  with compound bows. This is 7 early 70s, maybe even
• 54:17
  the 60s with compound bows. I don't believe crossbows how
• 54:23
  they are now really have become super common to hunt with to to
• 54:28
  a lot more recent. So maybe it would just be like a
• 54:32
  time thing like, OK, but then you could say, oh, well, the
• 54:35
  Matthews lift was made in 2026. So it's like it's tough for me.
• 54:39
  But maybe just that the the compound bow has been in
• 54:43
  rotation with certain regulations and caps as far as
• 54:47
  how fast they are, the poundage, you got to be able to pull them.
• 54:50
  It's more physical, maybe something like historical based
• 54:55
  is all I could think of. What you got?
• 54:59
  This is great the the comments are going to be in it up in this
• 55:02
  one jump in the comments No, I love it he's stirring the pot.
• 55:06
  You can hear a pin drop in here What I'm.
• 55:08
  Going to say is not polite. Oh geez.
• 55:10
  Oh geez, to the people. Leaving those comments, you
• 55:16
  know, you have ever seen those reels that like ladies do
• 55:19
  sometimes on Instagram or tick tock where they they legit like
• 55:23
  they'll be like they'll show the reels that they were, you know,
• 55:28
  cooking in their kitchen or something and then they
• 55:30
  literally pull up the comet with the picture of the dude who left
• 55:33
  the comet. I was like that ass was flying
• 55:35
  from the fan caker and she then comes through with a heater or
• 55:39
  whatever. I'm like, that's what needs to
• 55:41
  be done here because listen here to Linda like for the person who
• 55:45
  says that, Oh well, the comcom's so much easier.
• 55:48
  So maybe we should just all shoot traps then.
• 55:50
  First off, have you ever even shot a trap or a comet?
• 55:53
  No, get up off your computer and how much you go down with
• 55:56
  hardware shop and try shooting one or the other and tell me how
• 55:59
  easy it is. Secondly, for the trad shooter
• 56:03
  who has shot a trad bow. That gosh.
• 56:06
  Dang, compound bow then, And tell me how easy it is because
• 56:10
  you're shooting a trad bow, whatever it is, whether you like
• 56:13
  it for most people or you're shooting it for a reason because
• 56:17
  you can't pull the way of a compound or you can't see
• 56:20
  through the peep of a compound. Having those things doesn't make
• 56:24
  it easier. I think I've been let off mate.
• 56:28
  Yeah, I. Think it does.
• 56:31
  I like and it. Actually, it's our house.
• 56:33
  Definitely going to be more physical to shoot a reader for
• 56:36
  sure. It's.
• 56:36
  Easier in that sense. But is it hard to put all of
• 56:40
  those traits also still together and be good at it?
• 56:44
  Yeah, yes, just as hard. Like it's it's also hard to pick
• 56:49
  up a trad and be really good at it, but both are still in the
• 56:53
  realm because a 20. Yard shot on the trap is like,
• 56:56
  that's not that's not easy being bail.
• 56:59
  With a trap, I punch myself in the face, but they're both still
• 57:04
  in the realm enough to me of heart.
• 57:07
  So if you say you're walking a slippery slope, I'm like, both
• 57:09
  of those are so far into the slippery slope that it's like
• 57:13
  they're both equally. You could say a triad is harder,
• 57:16
  yes, but they're both so hard for me as far as being
• 57:20
  traditional weapons that the gap between both and they are.
• 57:27
  You got a trophob. It's fathoms apart.
• 57:30
  I mean, the deepest of the Black Sea apart, you know, And there's
• 57:35
  not Marianas. Trench.
• 57:37
  Yeah, there's. Not Marianas Trench between the
• 57:39
  compound and the trad for me to say, well, where is it in the
• 57:44
  slippery slope? They're both way down at the
• 57:45
  bottom. And here's the the, you know,
• 57:48
  crossbow way up here on its high and mighty peasant pedestal
• 57:51
  left. I don't want to hear it.
• 57:54
  It's just who would? Who would who would have guessed
• 57:56
  that? Can you shoot him off a tripod?
• 57:59
  Yeah. See.
• 57:59
  That's what. See.
• 58:00
  Come on, another and. It's like now I will say
• 58:03
  Arizona, unless you have a handicap license.
• 58:07
  Arizona banned the tripod from being used with your recurve.
• 58:12
  No, you. Mean your crossbow, not recurve.
• 58:14
  Yeah, using a tripod with a recurve will be crazy.
• 58:18
  What are you putting the grip on?
• 58:19
  And let her fly. So here's my line.
• 58:21
  All right, let. Me, let me hear this.
• 58:23
  Let me hear this. The reason?
• 58:24
  Why I draw the line at compound for archery season is because
• 58:30
  remember I'm coming from a perspective of my first animal
• 58:34
  was I was probably 24, right? So like already an adult, I got
• 58:38
  in the vicinity of animals and in range where I could have put
• 58:41
  them down so many times before an arrow actually connected.
• 58:46
  You know where I messed up every single time going from here to
• 58:50
  here close enough for at to be at hunting range.
• 58:54
  These animals, they survive by catching movement.
• 58:58
  So if you're close enough to get to full draw and then you have
• 59:01
  to do this. Don't tell me that doing this is
• 59:04
  comparable to bringing it up to your shoulder.
• 59:07
  Like that is a totally different planet.
• 59:10
  So like I don't know if you, I don't know if I'll be locked
• 59:13
  and. Loaded right?
• 59:13
  I don't know. If I'm not locked.
• 59:15
  And loaded like I can have my arrow on and my release hooked
• 59:18
  us the bow still got to get drawn back.
• 59:21
  You know, like you can walk around with your crossbow ready
• 59:24
  to go, like even especially if you're out of close, you get you
• 59:29
  stock into a close range. You don't even need your scope.
• 59:32
  You literally pull the crossbow off to your eyeball and pull
• 59:36
  your trigger. It's like.
• 59:38
  That's why it's. Not a slippery slope for me,
• 59:40
  Not. Closer to a gun than it is to
• 59:44
  both be both bows that have to actively be drawn back to make
• 59:48
  the shot. Has that been?
• 59:49
  Y'all experience with like, OK, getting close.
• 59:52
  That's OK, cool. Part Part 1 done.
• 59:55
  I'm close enough now getting to full draw with all, especially
• 59:59
  where I'm at all these axis deer everywhere.
• 1:00:01
  Like there's so many eyes and their bodies are they match the
• 1:00:06
  dirt, They match the red dirt. So you didn't even see this eye.
• 1:00:09
  And then all of a sudden and the whole field erupts and
• 1:00:12
  everything's going just yeah. I, I know I agree.
• 1:00:16
  I mean, I think that, you know, the draw.
• 1:00:20
  I hadn't. I never considered what you
• 1:00:23
  said, but to me that makes a whole lot of sense because just
• 1:00:26
  another. Check Mark in the closer to a
• 1:00:28
  gun than a bow lineup. Well, I mean, thank you.
• 1:00:31
  For you're sitting in a tree stand with a crossbow, it's
• 1:00:35
  going to be caulked, it has a bolt in it.
• 1:00:37
  You're sitting it on the top of the railing and then you just
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  literally just and shoot or you're on the ground and a
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  tripod and and there's no movement required.
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  Whereas with the bow, you know, like you said, that's a big
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  movement. A lot.
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  I mean, look, you know it's a it's a 29 1/2 inch movement plus
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  any up and down you do in your process.
• 1:00:56
  And let's take into. Account to your nerves are.
• 1:01:00
  So as. Strong as you are here flat on a
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  flat range and then all of a sudden adrenaline dump is real.
• 1:01:05
  So now you see them videos when they're like.
• 1:01:09
  Help me draw my bow. Back like, you ain't got to deal
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  with that. So good point.
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  I figured. I figured we'd probably run out
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  of time. I did had one more point on
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  that. People always say, I'm sure
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  you've heard it in these conversations with so many
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  people out here trying to attack our hunting rights and take away
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  public lands. I can't believe you guys are
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  infighting about this. And I definitely, I reject that
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  premise, right? I think we as an archery
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  community, whether you're shooting a crossbow, because at
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  the end of the day, do whatever you're allowed to do, wherever
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  you're allowed to do it at. Agreed.
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  Whether you're shooting a crossbow, muzzle loader, fixed
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  blade, mechanical, whatever tribe you're in, we're still in
• 1:01:48
  one big family. I think it's healthy for us to
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  have this dialogue. It's sparring.
• 1:01:54
  We are within our own gym. Sparring before going out to a
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  fight. Couldn't, could you imagine like
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  2 fighters on the team saying hey, with all the people we're
• 1:02:04
  going to have to compete against out there, we can't be wasting
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  our time in here fighting against each other.
• 1:02:08
  This is your argument should stand up against my argument.
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  And if it doesn't, and I find out that you made a point that I
• 1:02:16
  hadn't thought about, I have to get off of my heel and change my
• 1:02:19
  opinion, right? I have to be willing to change
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  my opinion or we're going to look like idiots when it's time
• 1:02:24
  to go up and against these folks who want to take public lands
• 1:02:27
  and who want to do this or, or the third, because we have just
• 1:02:30
  made our arguments and echo chambers thinking that we're
• 1:02:33
  being unified. We're not being unified.
• 1:02:35
  We're weaken ourselves, weakening ourselves because
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  we're not willing to have the dialogue.
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  The dialogue should be had. It should be respectful.
• 1:02:42
  And then the best points win. And then we take those to
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  Capitol Hill wherever we need to take them.
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  That's that's my soapbox on that.
• 1:02:50
  Dude, I, I, I, so I think that was very well said.
• 1:02:54
  I've always said that some people will come with the point
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  that you shouldn't promote hunting.
• 1:03:06
  You shouldn't be trying to get people in taunting like that's a
• 1:03:10
  bad thing, right? And I've always rejected that
• 1:03:14
  and said that I think we need to prospect more hunters.
• 1:03:18
  One, because the older generation of hunters is going
• 1:03:22
  to be dying. They're going to die off.
• 1:03:24
  It's just part of life, right? And the younger folks are not
• 1:03:28
  replacing them at even close. Why the same rate?
• 1:03:33
  Well, because, you know, one, people are having a lot less
• 1:03:36
  kids. Can't.
• 1:03:37
  Afford to have kids and number. Two kids of course, are spend
• 1:03:41
  more time inside video games, phones, being more connected.
• 1:03:44
  So that's part of it too. If you do not prospect and bring
• 1:03:48
  more people into your sport into the gym essentially, then you're
• 1:03:54
  cooked because you can't take anything to Capitol Hill, right.
• 1:03:57
  You need the strength in numbers.
• 1:03:59
  I had never really thought of the way you you push it, but I I
• 1:04:02
  don't disagree with it. I think it's good to have
• 1:04:04
  dialogue back and forth about different issues so long as
• 1:04:10
  you're not like discouraging someone you agree with to quit
• 1:04:13
  the sport. That makes sense.
• 1:04:15
  But if you're just having a debate back and forth saying,
• 1:04:18
  hey, I think fixed blades are wack and I think you should use
• 1:04:24
  a beast, but I'm not saying hey, quit hunting because you're
• 1:04:28
  using an idiot. That would be dumb, right?
• 1:04:31
  But I totally agree with you that as long as you're not
• 1:04:34
  infighting in this like bullying way, that's going to make people
• 1:04:38
  want to quit and reject the culture and and signing the
• 1:04:42
  ballot measures and things like that.
• 1:04:44
  But it's in a respectful dialogue like sparring type way.
• 1:04:49
  I'm all. For it, well, I.
• 1:04:51
  And I look at it this way and I'm not going to talk about
• 1:04:53
  politics, but I'm going to use it as an example, not any
• 1:04:57
  specific politic, but just politics in general.
• 1:05:00
  So, you know, we just had this talk.
• 1:05:02
  We're on the hunt when he if everyone just assumed that all
• 1:05:07
  the rules and laws are correct as they stand, you know right
• 1:05:12
  now, whether it's on your side on the left or your side on the
• 1:05:14
  right or or whatever, or as it is in the hunting right now, the
• 1:05:18
  bylaws and laws that exist are all they're just right as they
• 1:05:22
  are. How are you ever going to
• 1:05:25
  inflict improvement and change the?
• 1:05:28
  Letter. Could it couldn't.
• 1:05:29
  So you don't think of the grand scheme of politics, even if you
• 1:05:34
  were on the left or the right, you know that doesn't mean that
• 1:05:38
  all the laws that currently exist one way or the other are
• 1:05:43
  all already right. That's why we vote every me, but
• 1:05:47
  no, fun fact, I've never voted a day of my life.
• 1:05:52
  We're going to. Change that next year I have.
• 1:05:53
  Many times I vote. I'm a good, proud voter, yeah,
• 1:05:57
  but. If you if you never debate
• 1:06:02
  within your own side, how are you improving your side facts?
• 1:06:09
  Facts. Doesn't make any sense.
• 1:06:11
  So why would we not debate within our own side like we're
• 1:06:15
  not out to get somebody cancel their their piece of equipment
• 1:06:20
  and and say, Nope, get rid of it.
• 1:06:23
  And we're also not here to just, you know, stand behind the
• 1:06:27
  leader and say he must be right, must be right.
• 1:06:30
  No, If you don't debate between each other, how are you going to
• 1:06:32
  improve yourselves, to improve your party or ID, your hunting
• 1:06:37
  community, to grow your Land Management laws and your, you
• 1:06:43
  know, habitat and Conservancy Like that just logically makes
• 1:06:48
  no sense to me to have that argument of why are we arguing
• 1:06:51
  with each other? That's why I haven't.
• 1:06:53
  Responded to some of the comments because I'm like, I
• 1:06:55
  need more time to flesh out a complete thought for to explain
• 1:06:59
  it. I think because by nature of
• 1:07:02
  what I do for work, a lot of it is you're audited by your
• 1:07:06
  friends, people you came up with and now their job is that they
• 1:07:09
  did your job. Now their job is come back and
• 1:07:10
  look at you and then you transfer and your job is come
• 1:07:12
  back and look at their books. And you can always tell somebody
• 1:07:15
  who's kind of immature in that position or new, you can tell
• 1:07:18
  who the green one is. Because when somebody looks at
• 1:07:20
  their books and says all that, you know, that work you've been
• 1:07:23
  doing for the last two years, you did this wrong.
• 1:07:24
  In accordance with this, you're wrong.
• 1:07:26
  In accordance with this, you're wrong.
• 1:07:28
  You have to this day to fix it. And then the person who's been
• 1:07:31
  doing the work, they get so emotional about somebody picking
• 1:07:34
  apart the program, right? But you can tell the more mature
• 1:07:37
  folks afterwards they're sitting down eating together, you know,
• 1:07:41
  laughing and talking. Because at the end of the day is
• 1:07:43
  to improve the processes and at the end of the day, it is to get
• 1:07:47
  better. So once you recognize the lens
• 1:07:49
  that I am talking from, bro, you cross If if you're a crossbow
• 1:07:53
  hunter and somebody's jumping you, I got your back.
• 1:07:56
  I was raised that if you and your brother can go back and
• 1:08:00
  forth, but if somebody jumps on your brother out out somewhere,
• 1:08:03
  you, you both better get beat up there.
• 1:08:06
  You know what I mean? I got your back, but that
• 1:08:08
  doesn't mean that I'm whining for having this conversation,
• 1:08:11
  right, dude? No, I mean, I think that's why I
• 1:08:13
  love. The politics example because it
• 1:08:15
  was a good. Example you use the Navy.
• 1:08:17
  Example, it's like it's it, you have to be able to improve
• 1:08:23
  processes and, and the, the overall like picture of what it
• 1:08:31
  is. It can't just always stay the
• 1:08:33
  same. If that were the case, like
• 1:08:35
  technology wouldn't be where it is right now.
• 1:08:37
  The country wouldn't be where it is.
• 1:08:41
  It wouldn't be better than it was in the, you know, it's just
• 1:08:46
  things always have to improve and always can improve.
• 1:08:52
  We're at the. Very least change rate within.
• 1:08:55
  Each other things change. Find.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah, yeah. Whether, you know, there's ups
• 1:09:00
  and downs, but you know, the goal is to always go this way.
• 1:09:03
  You can't go this way if you don't discuss amongst each
• 1:09:07
  other. So it's not to cut people down,
• 1:09:10
  but maybe open, like you say, open your mind to the fact that
• 1:09:13
  it's improving the process. So nobody's trying to come at
• 1:09:18
  you and cut you down, but maybe there is a way to improve the
• 1:09:22
  process and you know, increase animal, you know, you know,
• 1:09:27
  numbers and habitat, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:09:29
  It like if for how many times do you go out and you see a
• 1:09:35
  crossbow hunter? Practicing.
• 1:09:39
  With their cross, well, a lot. Of yeah, they're not allowed at
• 1:09:41
  a lot of places, no so. They use different targets, so
• 1:09:44
  like the densities have to be different and I'm sure it exists
• 1:09:47
  somewhere, but and hopefully. You don't know, hopefully
• 1:09:50
  they're practicing at their house, but are they practicing
• 1:09:52
  as much as a trot or a compound shooter are?
• 1:09:56
  Fun fact, I only have shot a crossbow one time in my life.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah, I shot 11 time, but. All I say is that, you know, it
• 1:10:03
  takes a lot of practice to get good at a compound.
• 1:10:06
  So one, are you practicing that much with your your crossbow?
• 1:10:11
  And then two, you brought it up of like the nerves factor and
• 1:10:15
  like I have from from a source her.
• 1:10:19
  That doesn't mean it's, it's true or that it's factual or
• 1:10:23
  there's a data or statistic to prove it.
• 1:10:25
  But the in their history of, of guiding and and serving hunters,
• 1:10:32
  they have had more injured animals from their crossbow
• 1:10:36
  hunters and they have their, their compound hunters.
• 1:10:41
  And it begs the question, not saying it is true because
• 1:10:46
  there's no statistic out there. Maybe there is.
• 1:10:48
  He knows. Come at me with them in the
• 1:10:50
  comments. But but you there's a much
• 1:10:57
  faster point that they can get to pulling that trigger than the
• 1:11:01
  compound or trash shooter can. So did they have the time to
• 1:11:05
  work through those nerves, calm themselves, breathe through the
• 1:11:08
  shot, which if they don't and they just pull the trigger,
• 1:11:14
  well, I'm inclined to believe that that could cause more
• 1:11:16
  injured animals than the compound shooter who has to
• 1:11:19
  practice and work through the nerves because they're you could
• 1:11:24
  be nervous as hell. You just and just like a, you
• 1:11:28
  know, a long range shooter with a rifle, you don't just pick up
• 1:11:31
  the rifle and because it has a scope on it, you hit the middle
• 1:11:34
  every time. Like if they don't know how to
• 1:11:36
  breathe and work through it, you're not going to hit the
• 1:11:39
  target every single time. Well, it could be the same for a
• 1:11:42
  crossbow shooter shooting an ammo and then you're shooting
• 1:11:44
  them in the back, you're shooting them in the butt,
• 1:11:46
  you're shooting them in the leg. And so I'm not saying you do
• 1:11:49
  that every time as a crossbow razer, but that stuff that asks
• 1:11:54
  again, be thought about in the process.
• 1:11:56
  And so it's like, well, if it relates more to a gun and you've
• 1:12:01
  got to then there, there are certain things that they should
• 1:12:03
  be practicing or doing. I know some states don't even
• 1:12:07
  require the person to who's getting their hunting license to
• 1:12:12
  show that they can pull the bolt back, the string back.
• 1:12:17
  So like, they'll go with their parents.
• 1:12:19
  The parents will load the crossbow.
• 1:12:21
  All they have to do is prove that they can pull the trigger
• 1:12:24
  three times. Well, what if daddy's not in the
• 1:12:27
  crossbow in the blind with you every single time?
• 1:12:32
  And then he just injured an animal and slang there.
• 1:12:34
  But you can't shoot it again. You can't pull the crossbow
• 1:12:37
  back. Better pull the.
• 1:12:38
  Knife out if you. Don't get over and slip some
• 1:12:40
  throats. Well.
• 1:12:42
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