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- PlayBetter: Is your garage the only realistic space you've got for a golf simulator, but you also need it to stay a functioning garage? Man, do we have a solution for you. I just installed the sports screen Vanish Light 9 in my garage, and I'm here to share firsthand exactly what a literally life-changing experience it's been. This is Golf Tech Weekly presented by PlayBetter. Welcome back. Alongside me, like always, Daniel Fitzpatrick. I'm Mark Schreiforgian. Quick housekeeping before we roll. Please like the episode, subscribe, and leave us a comment. And if today gets you thinking about your own setup, use code GTW at PlayBetter for the best pricing on qualifying products. All right. ⁓ I spent years convinced I did not have room for a golf simulator. ⁓ Turns out I was wrong, Daniel. ⁓ I put a sports screen Vanish Light 9 in my garage, and it's already one of the best things ⁓ I've ever done. so Daniel's got some questions for me plus his own take. ⁓ and I've got some firsthand experiences to share. Daniel, let's ⁓ let's get into it. Yeah, certainly. You know, really excited to hear how the building process went. you know, your experience getting through the even as simple as receiving the product, the type of boxes and packaging it came in, ⁓ maybe some quick reviews on on their ⁓ processing and packaging because that's an important step ⁓ to make sure you get everything received and and then also just kind of you know excited to hear how you went through the process of of picking which items you wanted, needed and, you know, kind of what the frustrations were, what what was easier than maybe you thought it would be and And also kind of talk about how ⁓ it's gonna help not just for you know for business things, but also, you know, as you're getting closer to cold weather. So it's kind of maybe a good time for people watching and listening to start considering for the for their space as well. Yeah, totally agree. ⁓ I think my use case is probably a common one. ⁓ you know, I I I my house doesn't have ⁓ anywhere in it that has ⁓ enough ceiling height. The only place in my ⁓ home is my garage. I've got nine foot ceilings in my garage. I'm only 5'9, 5'10, and so nine feet gets it done for me. ⁓ the problem is, is it's my garage. I mean, I've got ⁓ I've got a wife and two kids. We've got a bunch of bunch of stuff, two cars, bikes, yard equipment, ⁓ household project equipment, other stuff that's crammed in there over the years. And ⁓ and so for me, ⁓ even having a nine foot ⁓ ceiling height in the garage, ⁓ it wasn't realistic for me to have a full-time sim enclosure. ⁓ and that's why this thing has been seriously a a game changer. ⁓ and I would expect that that's a common scenario for for people. So ⁓ so yeah, let's talk through it. ⁓ maybe Daniel, maybe you could just kind of tell us a little bit about what the vanish light series is how it compares to the Vanish series and and just kind of the the gist of a of a retractable golf simulator. Yeah so these are definitely some of the top tier if not the top ⁓ of the of the pecking order for retractable golf screens right now. ⁓ they're sold by a company called Sports Screen and it's called the Vanish series. So the original Vanish series has actual ⁓ sides that also drop down with it. And it requires that you mount it basically to your ceiling and it has four mounting points. So I mean, when it's unfolded, it is the size of a of a pretty normal, you know, golf enclosure. Then they've brought out this light series or the vanished light, ⁓ which they call a hybrid retractable golf ⁓ enclosure. And the difference is that you don't have to have as many mounting points if you don't want to. You can just mount it to the back wall. And only the screen retracts. The sides, if I'm not mistaken, they have like channels on them where you can slide them and then almost bundle them up like ⁓ like a curtain in your house. Exactly. And so it doesn't require as much space. It it allows you to maybe fit it underneath the garage door railings or ⁓ you know, maybe you can push it back into the corner of the space and then it's it's just honestly it doesn't take as big of a footprint as the actual ⁓ vanish series did. So ⁓ makes sense to me why you were maybe able to to consider this even con you know compared to the to the normal vanish. ⁓ but which size did you get? Did you have a specific size that only fit or did you choose one just kind of based on what what you wanted? No, I did have a specific size. I I had to go with the the nine, which is their smallest size. ⁓ so it'd be great, of course, to go a little bit larger, but that's what worked for me. and ⁓ I've got ⁓ A two-car garage, I've got kind of an alcove opening ⁓ kind of extension on the back of one side. And I chose to mount it to kind of in front of that opening. And so essentially what I now have is can roll the screen down and it blocks off that alcove entirely. ⁓ and then when I roll it back up, I have access back there to my tool bench and some other storage and things that I need to get to. ⁓ and the configuration flexibility that you just mentioned of the light series was perfect for me. In fact, using it in the space where I installed it would not have worked with the Vanish series. ⁓ I needed to use the Vanish Light Series. And having the option to configure it exactly to my space was was exactly what I needed. I've got on one side I've got it mounted to a sidewall and on the other side I've got it mounted to a back wall. And so it's just you know, having that flexibility was was another huge selling point and even though it's the Vanish Light series, which ⁓ and it's the more affordable series and so it is, I suppose, in theory the lesser series, it actually affords just as you said, like a lot of advantages l really over the vanish series for ⁓ certain use cases. So ⁓ this is a newer product for them. ⁓ And I'm I think it's super smart that they've come out with this, ⁓ because now they kind of capture ⁓ you know, kind of all the potential use cases. Sure. And do you have the I know they make it so both of these, the original vanish and the vanish light, they have it in a hand crank option and a remote control option. So did you opt for the remote control or are you going Stone Age style with the hand crank? Yeah, I've got the remote. ⁓ handcrakes allows you to save a little bit of money. ⁓ I think it might be five hundred bucks less ⁓ or at least a few hundred bucks less. And potentially could be, you know, could be an option for somebody that doesn't have immediate access to a wall outlet, although you've got an extension cord would probably get the job done. But ⁓ I've got the remote and I'm pretty, pretty psyched about that. ⁓ it's it's honestly ⁓ pretty damn awesome to hit the button and see the screen come down. You know, it it's it's crazy to think that from the time I pull the car out of the garage to the time I've got the screen down, the mats unrolled, ⁓ is about I've timed it, is about three and a half minutes. So I mean it is it is awesome. It is pure luxury. ⁓ it is totally, totally awesome. So Yeah, that's almost like Superman in the phone booth. I mean, that's that's pretty awesome that you can you can back out and have that drop down. ⁓ so obviously like yeah, it sounds like the the vanished light honestly was just was just perfect for your space. And I think that's gonna fit a lot of customers that that we potentially have. you know, when you were going through this decision making process, was like what was the most concerning thing to you? Like what was the most intimidating? Was it was it just like actually going through with, hey, I'm gonna do this? Or was it like, hey, like I maybe the I don't know if I can even install this thing? Like, was it the installation or What what kind of gave you the biggest fear as you kind of went through the planning process? Yeah, I'd say two things probably first the space itself. ⁓ I had pretty specific dimensions where this was going to be an option for me. And I had exactly nine foot ceiling height. And so initially I was slightly concerned that I didn't have enough space or that it was gonna be I was really cutting it really, really close. ⁓ and so ⁓ Just as you said on last week's episode, following your father's advice of measure twice, cut once. I measured, damn, I measured 15 times before I, you know, before I convinced myself that this in fact was going to work. so that was the first part. And then the second part was was the installation itself. ⁓ I don't consider myself ⁓ extremely handy. ⁓ some of that might be more of a just a confidence and conviction thing. I think honestly, once I get in there and and know, I'm capable of following instructions and I'm probably capable of doing a better job than I give myself credit for, but I don't I don't love it the way some people do. And I'm certainly not you know that's certainly not where my aptitude lies in terms of like a real strength of mine. And so that scared the hell out of me. I was intimidated by the process ⁓ initially enough so to kind of procrastinate it because ⁓ you know you talk about like ⁓ the the ⁓ play better sim studios being like a a ⁓ a campsite tent ⁓ that you know you you even set those up in like twelve minutes flat. ⁓ this is not that. ⁓ and so, you know, the more I researched it and looked into it, I was like, okay, this is this is getting into a league that scares me a little bit or intimidates me a little bit. ⁓ but ⁓ ultimately I I bit the bullet and ⁓ so so thrilled that I did. Sure. Yeah. No, I I I can understand where that comes from. And a lot of it is probably just like you said, the anxiety and build up of like, okay, I'm actually gonna do this. And I the the biggest thing is you wanted it to turn out the way you wanted it to turn out. And just having a little bit of anxiety of the pressure of of doing it correctly, obviously. So ⁓ I think that just goes to show that like, you know, our listeners out there, you know, you're not alone in thinking this, you know, even us golf experts, we You know, we have those same anxieties and fears as we go through the process. But ⁓ I think it's gonna be interesting maybe to see like I'm sure that there were parts that you thought were gonna be really hard and they ended up not being too bad and even the opposite way around. So let's get into that installation process a little bit and maybe just talk about step by step how you went through this. obviously I think the first thing you probably did was measure your space. Yep. Exactly right. Measure the space. I think I talked to you a couple of times, ⁓ get some confirmation that this was gonna ⁓ be a thing. talked to Sports Screen ⁓ a couple of times and ⁓ convinced myself that I did have the space to pull it off. ⁓ kind of went through a couple of ⁓ ideas of a couple of different spots to choose in my garage, but ultimately ⁓ came back to the the realization that there was really one place for me in my garage setup that was going to work. ⁓ the next thing that I had to do was because of the space that I chose to to have it. ⁓ I realized that I needed more clearance in what was going to be my hitting area. And so I had to raise my garage door tracks because they were relatively low hanging relative to the height of the garage and I had a lot of room that I could gain if I if I raised those up even more, ⁓ which allowed for just a little bit more space for backswing clearance. and then the other one was I side mounted the garage door opener motor. ⁓ So got that out of the way of of ⁓ the area above me, which also allowed for more area for where I was gonna ultimately be mounting my projector as well. ⁓ and shows those were two like kind of unrelated to the product itself, things that I had to do for my specific space. ⁓ and that was a little bit of an investment. ⁓ I think, you know, I had to have an electrician over to to clear a couple of things, and then I had the garage door company in to do all of that stuff. That ended up costing me, I think, a grand total of like 2,900 bucks. ⁓ so a bit of an investment, obviously well, well worth it once I got to the end point. ⁓ but that was the first step for me. ⁓ then the ⁓ the boxes arrived. They came in three boxes. It was actually a lot more manageable than what I anticipated. ⁓ somehow I thought this thing was gonna come on a palette or you know, it was just gonna be. you know, this albatross of a of a thing. Really wasn't that way. ⁓ all very neatly packaged, ⁓ three very manageable boxes. and ⁓ I got to work. and just as you said, I was anticipating the hardest part being the installation of those arms ⁓ to the the wall or ceiling, ⁓ and then the connection of the arms that that connected to each other. I thought that was going to be the most ⁓ intimidating part or time consuming part. That actually ended up being pretty simple. ⁓ once I, you know, once I found the studs, I was kind of off and running and that wasn't so bad. ⁓ believe it or not, for me, the most tedious part was just the they have these ⁓ these like corner gussets that ⁓ that you've got to slide into ⁓ each of the tracks that secure everything. And it feels like there's a million of them. There's probably only like 20 or 25 of them that I I had to use. But it honestly felt like I was the the part that gets weird is you've got to slide these little, these little half nuts ⁓ into the track, and then you've got to position them so that the opening of the the nut is exposed and you can you can ⁓ drive your bolt or whatever into them. That took forever. I mean, seriously, that like started to drive me crazy. ⁓ ⁓ that ended up being the most difficult part of it and that was the least physical part of it. So here I was thinking that I wasn't equipped for, you know, whatever the the more like physical installation was going to be. And it was it turned out to be the real micro part of it that ended up being the the the stumbling point for me. And if I had one kind of critique, ⁓ I wish that they could send some of that stuff a little bit more pre-assembled. I feel like if they could have some of those corner gussets already installed, ⁓ it would just save so, so much time. ⁓ so so yeah. as far as as far as what it took me, I did have a friend help me, ⁓ which I would recommend. ⁓ I don't think I think you could do it solo, but for one thing it was a lot more fun. and secondly, as I mentioned, this this kind of installation of these things took a long time, having two of us ⁓ working on it at the same time, sped things up a little bit. ⁓ and then the physical lifting and and leveling and and have and holding things in place while you screwed stuff in. ⁓ that was a that was a two-man job. but even with two guys, ⁓ it took us it took us a while, man. It took us a while. Like it ⁓ we were at it for ⁓ probably got started at nine a and finished at like four PM the first day. And then we came back the next day And worked for a couple more hours. And this is before anything to do with mounting a projector, getting my launch monitor situated, cutting my ⁓ kind of collection turf that I was gonna put underneath the screen to size, any of those little details, tacking up my HDMI cable to the wall to make it look a little neater, all of those kinds of things were time additional to that. ⁓ so it was very much a full weekend. project. ⁓ and in my case, just with all the ancillary things to go with it, not to mention clearing out my space and getting it all kind of cleaned up and prepped in for that. It was multiple days ⁓ f for me of of working on this for me. ⁓ yeah, and I think that's understandable. ⁓ you know, I think it was probably a good thing that you were as meticulous as you were about everything. you know, I actually thought it was it was pretty impressive that ⁓ that you were able to get the garage door raised up and everything moved. ⁓ because some people don't think about that. I mean just being comfortable swinging is probably the most important part of simulator golf. Huge. And to find that out and know it in advance was probably a huge advantage for you. ⁓ definitely would is there at any point I obviously I know you said part of it was tedious. Is that were there were there moments throughout where you're like, what What did I get myself into? Or maybe, you know, like there's there's no turning back now, we gotta continue anyway. I mean, were there points of frustration where you where you had to walk away for a few minutes and then come back? Or for sure, for sure. ⁓ somewhere in those those hours that I just mentioned, we were breaking for lunch and just breaking for honestly, just kind of exasperation or frustration. ⁓ because yes, ⁓ kind of once I was into it and and my friend as well, ⁓ we were Definitely ⁓ we definitely hit some points where we're like, damn it, like what have we what have we started and now it's too now we're into it. What did I do? You know, like ⁓ I've already invested in the garage door stuff at this point. Like, ⁓ my God, like what have I what have I done? ⁓ but obviously now having reached the payoff, it's like I look back on that and I laugh. At the time I was mostly sweating and swearing. ⁓ you know, now it's now it's you know. Now it's not a big deal to think back on. ⁓ and so I'll say too that ⁓ the instructions that they give you are extremely extensive and almost a little bit too much so. one thing that they they they give you ⁓ is with the instruction manual, they have these QR codes at every step that link to videos. And that is brilliant. I think that is a really, really cool ⁓ idea and way to present this information, and they do a really, really good job of it. But There are so many multiple varying videos and so many, again with the light series, there's all these different configurations, whether you're using a back wall, a right wall, a left wall, a ceiling, ⁓ any combination thereof, that ⁓ it really kind of gets your head spinning fairly quickly. ⁓ and there's a couple of moments that I encountered where ⁓ maybe the verbiage or the the terms they were using or just the the order of the little events maybe differ just a tiny bit from what was in the manual versus what was in the video, and which order we were watching the videos in, ⁓ and having to kind of rewind and go back and reread and ⁓ that it it became somewhat overwhelming a little bit. I that that's I suppose a a criticism. It's ⁓ it's honestly that I don't know that they could do a whole lot better than they do. I think they do they do present you a ton of information, which is obviously way better than having, you know, too little information. But there were some points where it was like you just your head is kind of spinning because ⁓ for one thing, not having done it at up to that point, you can't quite envision all of it yet. Now I will say having now done it ⁓ and knowing exactly how everything works in tandem with the other components, it probably would take me a third of the time. You know, if I had my same my same friend over here and we did this again, ⁓ I'll bet you we would knock it out in a third of the time. ⁓ still would take a little time. That's unavoidable, but we we would go far, far faster. ⁓ no question. The other thing I did want to point out too is ⁓ twice in the process I had to call sports screen just 'cause I like I hit a sticking point or I was confused or ⁓ worried that I was doing something incorrectly. ⁓ And that was an awesome experience both times. First of all, both times, two for two, they picked up the phone immediately. I got a human immediately. And not only that, but I got like a super knowledgeable, patient, calm, helpful human. ⁓ reminded me of like if somebody called you, Daniel, on on the on Playbedter's Hotline. So I mean it was that it literally was a godsend. Like those people were ⁓ were incredible. So they were calmly walked me through. Everything that I needed to do is very reassuring. I probably could have leaned on them harder ⁓ if I didn't feel so lame about it, but ⁓ could have made it even easier on myself by keeping them on the phone longer. But ⁓ as it was, that part of it, like the customer service part of it, the responsiveness part of it, could not have been more impressive. Like that really made an impression on me because that's not the case with every kind of product you buy. And this was one where I was like, wow. Like I'm dealing with like legit professionals here and I'm dealing with people that legit care about me getting this done correctly. And so that was a huge, huge five star win. ⁓ another big win too was just the build quality of the stuff was like very, very legit robust. ⁓ all of the hardware, ⁓ the arms, ⁓ even everything down to just like the the nuts and bolts, ⁓ Very, very high quality, premium quality product. ⁓ so I was very impressed with with all of those things. Yeah, I think that's awesome feedback honestly to get from from sports screen. Just I think that's vital to understand, even from the from the unboxing experience and kind of being, you know, surprised that it was packaged so so small and everything. ⁓ But I can even tell that that's the way their customer service orients just based on like their installation instructions. I've I've even just looked through them briefly myself. Yes, they can definitely be overwhelming, but I think that probably is a positive in the fact that they literally have so many different ways that you can mount their product. And they have different, you know, dimensions that they can work with. So it really is pretty versatile in the way that you can you can hang these and and position them in your space. ⁓ but I can I can definitely understand. I mean, was there was there any points that like you maybe you changed or reoriented from your original plan? Like as you were going through it, did did things change? Did you have to adapt? Or was it pretty much status quo from what you planned out? Yeah, I'd say it I say it it it really did come together pretty much as the original vision was ⁓ intended. and so like once I could work through any of the stumbling points. ⁓ we kind of came out on the other end exactly as it was designed to be. And so I certainly didn't make any like any hacks or or adjustments where I was trying to outsmart what what they have already designed. It's a very, very well designed product and ⁓ it it it it all works. It just it just takes a little bit of friction to get it to get there, to get to the finish line. Sure. sure. Yeah, and I think like overall at the end of the day, like You certainly probably appreciate everything being that you installed it yourself. But looking back, like do you think that the installation was maybe too difficult or like maybe a handyman hiring would have been easier if if your budget allows it? Like what are your thoughts there? Yeah, I I guess I got a couple of overriding thoughts. The first would be that if if if I can do it, and granted I did have a friend with me, ⁓ but if we could do it, you absolutely could do it. That's the first thing I would say. I mean that sincerely. ⁓ The second thing I would say is if this intimidates you, ⁓ please, for the love of God, do not let that be the reason you don't get one of these things. ⁓ just do what you gotta do. Like if you do have to hire somebody, do that. Roll that into your sim budget. ⁓ wouldn't be a bad idea. If you could afford it and you wanna take any any of the stress off of yourself, ⁓ just hire hire a handyman and and bite the bullet and and pay for that. I would I would recommend that if you're not somebody that that ⁓ feels capable of this or if you have some physical limitations. What I would not recommend is freezing, ⁓ even for the momentary part of it that like I did, ⁓ and robbing yourself of this. Like it's too damn good. Like get it done. Figure out a way and get it done. ⁓ if it takes you three times longer than it took me, I'd still tell you, then get started. Like I mean, do it. ⁓ if in fact this is the solution for you. You know, ⁓ it's not it's not the right solution for everybody. Costs more, of course, than like a a more ⁓ permanent ⁓ SIM setup. and not everybody needs this kind of flexibility. But Daniel, I'm curious, like when you're talking to people, I mean, I can't be unique in that I've got a garage that also has to function as a garage, right? I mean, that's gotta be. a a common use case like where the garage is the place for it, maybe it's the only place for it, and yet you gotta have a garage. You know what I mean? And so is is that something you encounter when you're talking to customers? Yeah, all the time, honestly. ⁓ you know, especially for people, you know, in the northern climate like, you know, you mark, where you you know, you you want to use that garage to store your car if there's a storm coming. Or you know, maybe the wife likes to park in there every night so she doesn't have frost on the windshield in the morning. I mean, it's there's little things obviously, but th I mean that can be the difference between buying it and not, believe it or not, with a lot of customers is You know, they they'll they'll I'll get the question every day, hey, if I buy this Sim Studio, can I just slide the studio art? Can I take it down and put it in a bag? And it's like, well, have you looked at retractable options? And and nine times out of ten, they don't even know that these are a thing. So ⁓ I think that these are definitely underrated. And you know, I think from the way it sounds with you, Mark, like there's definitely some a little more pep in the step when you're talking about things with it and ⁓ I think there's a sense of pride and also probably a sense of excitement for you. ⁓ not just for like your own personal golf games, but even, you know, for for what you do for a job. I mean, now you can go right outside and and do some isolated testing that ultimately is gonna make, you know, playbetter dot com, you know, an advancement as well with all of our reviews and everything that you do for us there. So Yeah, absolutely huge for that. ⁓ obviously personally it makes me feel like I'm the coolest person ⁓ in in the neighborhood. ⁓ And now having a golf simulator in my garage, I I undoubtedly am. ⁓ but professionally, it it it's it's a complete game changer. ⁓ so you know, I test golf launch monitors ⁓ pretty much every week. And ⁓ all of them I test extensively, both outdoors and indoors. And the outdoor part of it is straightforward enough. But the indoor part of it, ⁓ I'm lucky to have some some really cool people that give me access, and ⁓ sometimes I'll use a commercial space or sometimes I'll use a teaching professional who's got a studio set up ⁓ that that's really generous and and allows me a lot of access. But still it's never like I never have like unlimited access. I certainly don't have access that's like right off my kitchen. You know what I mean? And so oftentimes when I go, you know, I test the products and then when I go to write about them, very often as I'm composing or writing, I'll have a question for myself, like, ⁓ Darn, I didn't test this one little thing, or I wish I could go back and kind of reconfirm this one little point ⁓ maybe that I forgot about or I missed testing or I just want to test again. And now to be able to literally walk a few feet away and test as much as I as as I as I want to or need to is massive, massive for me. ⁓ massive for ⁓ testing different softwares. ⁓ just an absolute huge win that, yeah, again, I do hope benefits our customers in the end. Yeah. I mean, it's glad to hear that everything ended up, you know, so positively. you know, I know we we talked through a lot of things here and there as you were going through the process and ⁓ you know, you could and this is no offense to you, you could feel some anxiety in a little bit of it. And I'm just I'm so glad for you that it that ended up being the the perfect solution because It's gonna provide you hours of entertainment to come. I I know it's gonna be awesome. And I know you were sweating when it was getting installed because it's hot, but you and me both know that that weather is is turning here soon. And ⁓ I can tell you a young Daniel would have would have killed for this in a in his garage in central Iowa growing up with with with something like that. So ⁓ very jealous, but also, you know, really happy that ⁓ that everything went smoothly. So excited to see the pictures and and see how everything unfolded. I really appreciate that. ⁓ certainly appreciate you ⁓ giving me some guidance along the way. ⁓ a good reminder to everybody out there that ⁓ if you're contemplating a sim build of your own, ⁓ Daniel's the best guy in the business to talk to about that. ⁓ he's also the one on the other end of the horn. If you hit up the golf simulator advisor that's on playbetter.com. ⁓ so really have an excellent resource available to all of us. I definitely leveraged that. ⁓ and I would recommend the same for for anybody else that's in my position. another just kind of quick point I wanted to make before we get out of here is, you know, my space isn't perfect. ⁓ I had to make some compromises. I ended up in the space that I had to use. I ended up with a righty only setup. I I could get a lefty in there, but it we would have to we would have to kind of shift to the f kind of a ⁓ off center part of the screen and we'd have to shift some things around a little bit, but ⁓ My wife's actually lefty. ⁓ she's she's she's not a regular golfer, but she golfs occasionally and the the sim would have been a nice opportunity to get her even more engaged. And ⁓ you know, I had to choose the the marriage or the sim and obviously I, you know, just just kidding. But ⁓ the ⁓ you know, the other thing is is like a garage isn't necessarily a perfect place for a sim. It's a it's a dirtier environment. That's a that's a you know, I I anticipate that being a a a constant nuisance. for me as I'm rolling and unrolling the mats and and collecting dirt and all of that stuff you want to keep off of the the impact screen. You know, you don't want to be embedding dirt onto the impact screen because it compromises the image, a little bit more wear and tear. Those kinds of things make this not like perfect. Nine foot ceilings meaning that I, you know, my taller buddies are probably going to be irons only. ⁓ It's not perfect, but if the alternative is like no sim at all. ⁓ this is this is the greatest ⁓ the greatest decision I I could have possibly made for my golf life, for my professional life, ⁓ you know, my own personal game. ⁓ and so I would encourage anybody that's maybe in a situation that sounds similar ⁓ to, man, just figure out a way is what I would say. Figure out a way. And the Vanish Light series is I think is the way if if your situation is like mine. So I would highly, highly recommend it. Yeah, certainly. And I don't think you're alone in any of those any of those fears or any of those ⁓ anxieties of going through the process. And and I echo your you know, your statement that if there's anybody else out there, and I know that there are, people that are considering, you know, Sims for their space, just not sure, check out that ⁓ that golf advisor form. We we can help you, you know, we can get creative. We'll be honest with you. ⁓ but we'll also, you know, allow you to to have some creativity and some freedom to to maybe, you know check out some spaces or or use these in spaces that may not be a hundred percent favorable. Maybe it's an iron only type situation. But ⁓ like Mark said, maybe that maybe that's all you'll want ⁓ to get the golf thirst as as you don't have the ability to go outside and and kind of itch or scratch that itch to to be able to play in your own space. So no thanks for sharing. Obviously Mark, I think that ⁓ it it just peels back a little bit of of the layer of understanding the installation process and ⁓ Yeah, I'm glad it all worked out. That's really exciting. Yeah. All right. Thanks a lot, man. ⁓ thank you everybody for watching and listening. 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