Latest / Everyday Ancestral with James Barry / Everyone Called Me Crazy! How The "Salmon Queen" Healed Her Autoimmune Disease | GiGi Ashworth

Transcript

Everyone Called Me Crazy! How The "Salmon Queen" Healed Her Autoimmune Disease | GiGi Ashworth · Everyday Ancestral with James Barry

0:00
On the sand queen, I don't care what other people think.
0:03
My practitioner was like, I have never seen
0:06
zonular levels this high before my life.
0:08
What on earth do I eat?
0:10
The problem is everyone is so unique.
0:12
There's no one's ice fits all.
0:13
My kids eat my grove pizza and chicken nuggets.
0:16
Ha ha.
0:17
When I was a kid, I ate whatever I wanted.
0:21
And here I am, extremely healthy.
0:23
It was a chef of 20 plus years I've always been about taste.
0:26
But it was becoming a father that made me really start
0:29
to think about function because I want my kids to thrive
0:32
and I want to be around long enough to witness it.
0:34
And it was when my daughter became ill.
0:37
My wife and I, we struggled to get the right nutrients in her.
0:40
It was a true wake-up call.
0:41
That experience is why pluck was created.
0:43
So pluck is a superfood seasoning
0:46
made with 100% grass-fed beef organmates blended
0:49
with organic spices and herbs.
0:51
The beautiful thing is it doesn't taste like organmates.
0:53
It just tastes like the seasoning you're already using,
0:56
but better.
0:57
Because when you add it,
0:58
you're adding these bioavailable nutrients
1:01
that your body can actually use.
1:04
If you consult it, you can pluck it.
1:06
Learn more at eatpluck.com and save 15%
1:11
off your first order using code EA15.
1:15
You're the salmon queen.
1:16
Why salmon?
1:17
Salmon is the one food that I turn to for every purpose.
1:22
So I was diagnosed with autoimmune diseases.
1:26
I have ulcerative colitis.
1:27
I have no large intestine.
1:29
I've got IBS.
1:30
I've got Miki gut.
1:31
I've got Crohn's disease.
1:33
And when I learned about all of these diagnoses,
1:36
I was like, what on earth do I eat?
1:38
So I went through this elimination phase.
1:42
And this was back when I was around 14 years old,
1:44
which is why I adopted a keto-vor diet back then.
1:49
And now just fully carnivore for 24 years.
1:52
I just gave away my age, everyone.
1:54
That being said, the one food that I found
1:58
that always made me feel really good
2:00
and was also delicious was salmon,
2:03
specifically farm-ray salmon.
2:04
The wild caught salmon and I were not like best friends
2:07
because it's not as fatty as farm-ray salmon
2:11
and I love fat.
2:12
So that's why I turned salmon.
2:15
I mean, in my world as a chef,
2:17
it's always about wild salmon.
2:19
They're always talking about that's the more nutritious.
2:21
And I noticed that you're very pro-formed.
2:24
So is it just the fat?
2:25
Well, you know, I have visited a lot of salmon farms
2:28
and the reason why farm-ray salmon
2:30
gets such a bad reputation is because back in the 1960s
2:33
when it first started becoming a thing,
2:36
there was no rules and regulations whatsoever.
2:38
Salmon farms were just feeding salmon
2:40
whatever the heck they wanted
2:42
and that injecting it with hormones and pesticide
2:44
and all of that kind of stuff and antibiotics
2:47
to make it healthier kind of like conventionally raised cows.
2:50
And they would just try to fatten them up as quickly
2:52
as possible and then just selling it.
2:54
So they had a lot of different chemicals in them.
2:56
It just was not regulated.
2:58
So after, you know, the FEA became aware of such situations
3:03
and proclaiming a farm-ray salmon
3:05
is like the worst thing on the face of the planet,
3:07
these farms started to clean up their act.
3:10
So a lot of salmon farms,
3:12
I'm not gonna say all salmon farms
3:14
have really changed their ways
3:16
and now they feed their salmon things like macroe
3:19
and sardines and other healthy fats
3:23
to really enhance the property of the salmon.
3:25
And then on top of that,
3:27
they live in very clean environments
3:29
and they test the waters and they use different methods
3:33
not antibiotics in order to make sure
3:35
that the fish is healthy.
3:37
So everything that people are seeing
3:39
is all dated research or they found maybe one or two farms
3:45
that are still practicing negative ways of raising salmon
3:49
and decided to basically sensationalize those headlines
3:54
because everyone's trying to find a click these days.
3:56
But I have my sources of farm-ray salmon
3:59
that I turn to all the time.
4:01
I mean, I'm healthy.
4:02
I get all my blood worked on.
4:03
I got my omega-3s and my omega-6 check.
4:06
And if anything, I need to eat more omega-6 fatty acids
4:08
because my omega-3s are so high.
4:11
You're known for eating salmon exclusively, right?
4:14
Yeah, I do.
4:16
I do put in some beef there here in there.
4:18
My husband's a hunter.
4:19
So we have a lot of caribou and mousse in our freezer
4:22
that has to be eaten because everybody in this house
4:24
except for me eats out pretty much all the time.
4:27
I have to like force feed them,
4:29
which is really sad because this meat is very good.
4:32
Typically, I exclusively eat salmon.
4:34
My body only wants salmon whenever someone says,
4:38
what do you want to eat?
4:39
I'm like, is that even a question?
4:40
Why are you asking that?
4:41
Because all I want is salmon.
4:43
So I'll go in the freezer.
4:45
I'll see these frozen meats like caribou and mousse
4:48
and bear and elk.
4:49
And then I see my salmon.
4:50
And I'm like, I'm going to grab the salmon now.
4:54
The list of kind of health elements
4:56
you have experienced and continue to experience.
4:59
From autoimmune, you mentioned celiac,
5:02
crowns, ulcerated colitis.
5:05
You have no large intestine.
5:06
You have a host of food allergies,
5:08
which I have to wonder if that's just connected
5:10
to the other things, right?
5:12
I would assume so.
5:14
I had lactose intolerance long before I was diagnosed
5:18
with everything else, but at the same time,
5:20
I feel like everything kind of goes hand in hand.
5:23
But you're not someone I think on the outside
5:25
that people go, oh, she must have a host of health issues, right?
5:29
Where do you see these health issues stemming from?
5:33
Have you identified that yet?
5:34
You know, not really.
5:35
So when I had my large intestine removed,
5:37
they couldn't quite figure out what the issue was.
5:40
They did mention that I had a longer than normal large intestine
5:44
and my mom also has that as well.
5:46
I think it is genetic goes.
5:48
My mom has very similar digestive issues.
5:51
I have to God do not really know.
5:53
My focus, though, is just making sure
5:56
that I feel my best every day,
5:58
back in like December of 2025, even.
6:03
That's when I have like a very pivotal moment
6:05
that mainly just all of a sudden do it 180.
6:09
And I just feel tremendously better.
6:12
Like from the age 14 until now, basically,
6:17
I have been, you know, toying with different options
6:21
and different supplements and all of that kind of stuff.
6:24
And then December just was like a flip of the switch
6:27
because I got a stool test done.
6:30
And the stool test told me that I had
6:32
extremely high zonulin levels, which means I have leaky gut.
6:36
And in fact, my practitioner was like,
6:38
I have never seen zonulin levels this high before in my life.
6:43
I highly recommend everyone gets stool tests
6:45
because if you have high zonulin levels,
6:47
which means you're gonna be bloated after anything that you eat.
6:51
Like I'm over here eating a keto-vor lifestyle,
6:53
mostly carnivore, now fully carnivore.
6:57
And I was still getting bloated, except the salmon.
7:00
That was the one thing that like I never,
7:02
I never got bloated from.
7:04
And I was feeling terrible and I feel I just felt heavy
7:07
and exhausted by the end of the day.
7:10
I mean, I get up very early in the morning
7:12
so that I could play a factor.
7:14
But then I started to treat my zonulin levels
7:18
and I feel like a new woman.
7:22
What were those steps?
7:23
Yeah, so when I was talking to my practitioner,
7:26
she recommended mastic gum, DGL, which is licorice root extract
7:31
and zinc carnazine.
7:33
And then I did my own research
7:35
because I was also suffering from really bad back pain
7:38
and I actually posted a photo of my x-ray on Instagram.
7:43
And I was like, look at me, I'm screwed up everybody
7:46
because I had fractures all over my back
7:48
and it just, it wasn't a good look.
7:50
And I actually have a scoliosis, believe it or not,
7:53
didn't even know.
7:54
And someone messaged me and she was like,
7:57
you need to try BPC157 and TD500
8:01
and I'm like, what on earth was this?
8:02
At this point I'm so desperate, I will try anything.
8:05
So if people don't know what that is, it's a peptide.
8:08
Everyone's talking about peptides these days are obsessed
8:11
and I have to admit, so am I
8:13
because I have no back pain anymore whatsoever.
8:17
And those two peptides also helped with my gut health
8:20
but I introduced a different one as well called KPV
8:23
which is specifically for leaky gut
8:27
and disinflammation in your body in general.
8:29
So those are the peptides that I do
8:31
and they have completely, completely changed relic.
8:35
You were working for like E entertainment.
8:37
You're in front of the camera, you're beautiful, you glow,
8:42
like you have this look that I think people associate
8:44
with like healthy, you know, got it all together, you know,
8:48
and yet here you were like suffering.
8:51
Where did it all kind of start this path
8:55
of trying to get healthier?
8:58
You know what's interesting is I have a mentality
9:01
of something always worse could be the situation.
9:05
So I'm always blessed to, you know, have all of my limbs
9:09
and be alive and all that kind of stuff.
9:11
So when I'm suffering from my ailments,
9:14
I tend to just like put a grin on and bear it
9:18
and I've done that my entire life.
9:20
I don't try to put on this facade of like,
9:22
whoa is me, everyone feel bad for me?
9:24
That's, I don't need sympathy.
9:27
That's the word I was trying to get at
9:28
because I can motivate myself
9:30
and I can make sure that I am on the right path
9:34
and I know that everybody, not everybody,
9:37
but I know a lot of people out there
9:38
have it a lot worse than me.
9:40
So I'm never going to complain about my issues.
9:43
I will certainly talk about them
9:45
and discuss them with other people
9:47
who might have similar issues.
9:48
That's why I talk about any of my ailments
9:51
that I've had in the past is because I wanted
9:55
to make it a conversation.
9:57
I wanted people to realize that gut issues
10:00
as embarrassing as some can be need to be spoken about.
10:04
So you can find a remedy for them.
10:08
Otherwise, you're going to be suffering in silence
10:10
or you're going to be suffering out loud
10:12
and both are not fun.
10:15
But I started my journey of trying to figure this all out
10:19
when I was 14.
10:20
I was actually in boarding school for snowboarding
10:23
and I remember just feeling completely terrible.
10:26
My mom sent me a book about the ketogenic lifestyle
10:30
because she had been doing the ketogenic lifestyle ever
10:32
since I was born.
10:33
I read it, it made perfect sense.
10:35
And then I went to the doctor and I was diagnosed
10:37
with all of my ailments and then I adopted that lifestyle.
10:41
But then I threw my own tweaks in there
10:44
because oftentimes the book that I read
10:47
or that anybody reads a specific diet book in general
10:51
is like a one-size-fits-all mentality.
10:53
But I think that we are all unique individuals.
10:55
So we have to take pieces from each book
10:58
or each article that you're reading and adopt them,
11:01
see if they work, treat yourself like your own guinea pig.
11:04
And if they work, amazing, keep doing that.
11:07
And if they don't work, get them out of your life
11:09
and try something new or just stick with what you know
11:12
works for you.
11:14
I mean, again, it's all trial and error.
11:16
Every single day is trial and error.
11:18
Like tomorrow, I might not feel good like I do today.
11:21
And if that's the case, well, I'll analyze
11:24
what I was doing today and see if that's why tomorrow
11:29
I don't feel as good.
11:30
But oftentimes what happens is something
11:33
from three or four days ago that I might have adjusted
11:36
or come in contact with or whatever
11:38
is now affecting me three or four days in the future.
11:43
And I didn't really realize that until I realized eggs
11:46
and I do not get along.
11:48
And I remember I got an allergy test
11:50
and all of these allergy tests tell me
11:53
all of the things I allergic to, obviously.
11:55
But eggs was on this list, but I was eating eggs
11:58
and I like didn't feel off.
12:01
And then I just like put two and two together
12:04
because a couple of days later,
12:06
I would feel absolutely terrible, tired, bloated,
12:10
such the worst stomach pain ever.
12:13
And I would wonder like what is the reasoning behind this?
12:17
And then because I'm so in tune with my body
12:21
and how I process things, I realized that eggs
12:24
was the culprit and then I got rid of them
12:26
and I didn't find that.
12:27
Here you're dealing with all these ailments,
12:30
which other people are also processing, right?
12:32
They might have a skin issue, they might have their hair
12:34
thinning, there might be a host of things going on.
12:38
But what sounds different about your story is they,
12:41
it's almost like you have this driving force
12:43
of like penetrating through all the noise is just going,
12:47
I'm gonna try this or I'm gonna do that.
12:49
And I think most people are getting stopped
12:51
and I don't know where to start.
12:53
So where do you recommend people start
12:56
when they are recognizing all these ailments
12:58
and they're just not knowing what to do?
13:02
I mean, that's a tricky question to answer purely
13:04
because there's so much noise.
13:07
There's so many people talking about these things.
13:09
I know the answer, I know the answer, I know the answer,
13:11
but the problem is everyone is so unique
13:14
and so different that like I said,
13:16
there's no one's ice fits all.
13:17
So what I would recommend is someone
13:20
take one symptom that they're feeling
13:22
right this very second and do a little bit of research
13:26
on that one symptom in particular.
13:28
And believe it or not, I have a feeling
13:30
that what you'll find out is that one symptom
13:34
might be a couple of different causes
13:36
and those couple of different causes might also have
13:39
the symptoms that you're experiencing
13:42
like other symptoms that you're experiencing.
13:44
So then you have to put two and two together.
13:46
Oftentimes this gets a little overwhelming
13:48
for people though as well.
13:49
So they tend to meet guidance.
13:52
And if that's the case, you have to go
13:55
and do your due diligence online
13:57
if you want to find someone to help you
13:59
that actually cares about people.
14:03
They're not trying to sell you something.
14:05
They have a great track record, they have great reviews
14:09
and then you have a conversation with them.
14:12
Get consults from a million different practitioners
14:15
or people who have gone through similar issues
14:19
and really see which one you connect with.
14:22
For me personally, like I said earlier,
14:24
I'm my own motivator, my own self-driver.
14:27
I don't need guidance from other people.
14:29
I have my master's in nutrition.
14:31
I know how to do research for myself
14:33
and I and AOK with treating myself like my own guinea pig.
14:37
And I think part of it is because I really passionate
14:40
about food health nutrition.
14:43
I was raised by a doctor who was equally as passionate.
14:46
So I am very lucky that I was brought up
14:49
in this world where food, nutrition, health
14:54
and cooking things from scratch was the thing in my life.
14:58
But I can understand where it can be very overwhelming
15:01
for someone who's got a nine to five job,
15:02
has three children, has to cook dinner every single night,
15:06
has dogs, has other extracurricular activities.
15:10
They can't sleep at night or whatever it is.
15:13
But I mean, I'm not gonna toot my own horn,
15:17
but if you guys wanna talk to me, I'm here for you
15:19
because I love to help people kind of navigate
15:22
where they're supposed to go.
15:24
And oftentimes I do get the ends from people
15:26
of really asking for any sort of guidance whatsoever
15:30
because they know that I've gone through it.
15:32
And they know that I am a no BS kind of person.
15:36
I will tell you straight up how I feel about your lifestyle
15:40
and if it is affecting you.
15:41
And one thing that people don't really realize
15:44
is stress is one of the biggest factors for your health.
15:50
One of my girlfriends, she was going through marriage issues.
15:54
Let's just call it that.
15:55
She was taking all of these different prescription drugs.
15:59
And as she finally realized that her marriage
16:02
was the true cause of a lot of issues,
16:05
she stopped taking these drugs
16:08
and she started to feel better.
16:10
And then she ended that marriage
16:13
and now she takes no medications whatsoever.
16:16
And her, I think it was like fibromyalgia
16:19
is completely gone, her joint pain is gone.
16:22
So stress can really do a number on people.
16:26
But finding a remedy for stress
16:29
when you're in the think of it is almost impossible
16:32
because the world is just so go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
16:35
These days, you have to take minutes for yourself.
16:39
You have to treat yourself with respect
16:43
and put yourself before other things.
16:46
You just do, it sounds selfish.
16:49
But in order for you to be the best for other people,
16:51
you have to be best for yourself.
16:53
When life gets busy, you're moving through your day,
16:55
it's not always easy finding real food.
16:58
That's why I've been keeping these with me.
17:00
Our sponsor Prima makes protein bars
17:03
using simple traditional ingredients
17:06
like grass-fed collagen and whey, organic raw honey,
17:11
beef tallow, cacao, coconut, sea salt,
17:14
and they're offering 25% off for listeners of this show.
17:17
Look, I have a simple test when it comes to protein bars.
17:20
First, I have to recognize all the ingredients.
17:23
Second, it's got to not wreck my gut.
17:25
Well, Prima passes that test.
17:27
Each bar has 21 grams of animal-based protein
17:31
and all nine essential amino acids.
17:34
Look, go give them a try, go to eatprima.com,
17:37
use code ancestral 25 and get 25% off.
17:41
I think a lot of people that have a lot of issues,
17:47
particularly around leaky gut,
17:48
sometimes they have mental health issues show up,
17:51
whether it is showing up through depression
17:54
or just feeling psychotic.
17:56
I mean, I know some people who use the carnivore diet
17:59
because they were dealing with split personality.
18:02
I mean, they were dealing with that kind of stuff.
18:03
It was getting so severe, the mental behavior.
18:06
You seem pretty passionate about mental health as well.
18:09
So how do you navigate that?
18:11
I mean, we mentioned orthorexia.
18:12
Can you just talk about that process for you?
18:15
Yeah, so orthorexia, I dealt with that when I was first diagnosed
18:18
with all my issues because I didn't know what that would take.
18:23
So it was very confusing.
18:25
And also at the age of 14, you have skinny supermodels
18:29
in your face and people telling you that you're fat all the time.
18:33
So you're like, what am I doing here?
18:35
So I got really, really, really obsessed
18:40
with trying to figure out the healthiest route for me.
18:43
And that is what orthorexia is.
18:44
It's being truly obsessed with finding out
18:49
how to be as healthy as possible over exercise
18:52
or you're only eating leafy greens
18:55
with the tiniest bit of chicken on top or whatever it is.
18:58
But that mentality takes over your entire life.
19:01
It is all encompassing, all consuming.
19:05
And you can't live a life outside of it
19:08
because all you're doing is thinking about your next meal,
19:11
your next workout, or feeling guilty
19:15
about potentially overeating at your next meal
19:18
or overeating in your previous meal.
19:20
And in fact, your body needed some of those calories.
19:23
So I did deal with that for a long time.
19:26
I did go through anorexia.
19:28
I have to pride myself, pat myself on the back
19:31
because I have a very, very, very strong mental.
19:36
I guess mentality and my willpower is extremely strong.
19:41
So I was able to talk myself out of it
19:46
and give myself pep talks every single day.
19:49
I have to say it's probably my favorite trait about me,
19:52
my dry determination, meeting the own cheerleader.
19:55
That's what we all have to be for ourselves.
19:57
And that comes from self-esteem,
19:59
having higher self-esteem and loving yourself.
20:03
And a lot of people don't love themselves in this
20:05
because they compare themselves to other people.
20:08
And they think these other people has everything
20:11
that they want.
20:12
Comparison is a thief of joy.
20:14
I learned that a long time ago,
20:16
probably around the age of 14, 15,
20:18
when I was diagnosed with these issues.
20:21
And I realized that I was focused
20:23
on the positive attributes of myself.
20:25
Sure, as I get older,
20:26
I might look in the mirror and I'm like,
20:28
oh, my God, there's some wrinkles, you know?
20:30
But at the same time,
20:31
like I'm still so happy that I feel
20:34
vivacious and happy in a live.
20:36
And sure, I've gone through depression in the past.
20:41
When I lived in Georgia, I now live in Arizona.
20:43
But when I lived in Georgia,
20:44
I went through a lot of depression,
20:47
but it was all environment-related.
20:49
I was in a city town that just, I didn't fit in with.
20:53
I felt like I had no purpose.
20:55
I felt lonely and isolated.
20:57
And sometimes, that's all it takes
20:59
to get you out of that depressed mental state.
21:02
Sometimes, I'm not gonna say all the time
21:04
because I do know that depression can really be
21:08
ingrained in your brain
21:09
and you just feel like there is no way out of it.
21:12
But to go back on what you're saying
21:14
in regard to someone or some people
21:17
adopting carnivore lifestyle to cure their bipolarism
21:22
or their split personality,
21:25
your gut is your second brain.
21:28
So if your gut is unhealthy,
21:30
you will most likely have some sort of mental instability
21:35
because your gut is trying to work hard
21:38
to figure out its problems.
21:41
I know when I have stomach aches or pains or whatever,
21:45
I am not mentally all there
21:47
because I'm so focused on not feeling good
21:51
and not feeling good doesn't exactly translate
21:54
to a positive mindset.
21:56
I've done my best to do so.
21:58
I live with a glass half full perspective
22:00
and I always have.
22:01
So I always smile whenever I don't feel good
22:05
but I haven't felt bad in a while, which is great.
22:08
However, that's not an easy thing to do.
22:09
Like I said, my willpower is my favorite attribute
22:13
that literally is the thing that shines in my life
22:16
because I'd always turn to it.
22:18
It sounds something a lot of people have
22:19
and it's something that a lot of people need to work on.
22:22
But there's just so many factors in layers
22:25
when it comes to that.
22:27
I imagine it's challenging.
22:29
When you have the type of health elements
22:31
you've been upped out with,
22:34
it forces you to be really sensitive to what you eat, right?
22:37
I mean, because eating the wrong food thing,
22:40
as you mentioned, is going to create discomfort.
22:43
And so that focus could sometimes be seen
22:46
as obsessive around food,
22:48
but there's a reason why you're being obsessive.
22:50
So someone could look at an extreme dialect carnivore
22:53
and be like, well, that's orthorexia, right?
22:55
So how do you balance that the past with the present?
23:00
I'm very confident and I own everything that I do.
23:05
So if someone was to be like, oh, you're orthorexic,
23:08
I'll say, if that's what you think, that's great,
23:11
but I know what works for me.
23:12
I have my ulcerative colitis, I've got IBS, I've got Crohn's disease,
23:16
I've got all of the things.
23:19
Would you like me to go through this for you?
23:21
But I also, I'm not argumentative about it.
23:24
I'm not defensive about it.
23:25
I simply say, I'm the San Queen
23:28
and I make everything a joke.
23:30
I make everything light-hearted.
23:32
I don't get upset if someone points fingers at me.
23:36
I don't care what other people think.
23:38
Truly don't.
23:39
I know what makes me feel good
23:42
and that helps me just get through life totally fine.
23:45
Nobody puts their fingers at me and says,
23:48
oh my gosh, you're orthorexic.
23:49
If anything, people applaud me and my efforts
23:52
because they know how hard I work
23:55
and how much I push myself to be the best I possibly can.
24:00
If anything, I motivate people.
24:02
I mean, the DMs that I get are so heartfelt and amazing
24:06
and they inspired me to keep going
24:09
because they tell me how motivating I am
24:11
and how they're adopting new exercises
24:13
or incorporating more salmon into their diet
24:16
because I guess maybe they see me
24:18
and they see that I'm a healthy individual
24:21
and I'm always so happy and positive and bubbly
24:24
and it's maybe I'm something that they want to be
24:29
and they absolutely can do that for themselves.
24:32
They just have to adopt a positive mindset
24:35
and eat more salmon because I swear
24:37
it's what helps with the mood.
24:39
It isn't seen though because a lot of carnivore people
24:41
are not eating fish.
24:43
No, that's what's crazy.
24:45
I'm in a bunch of carnivore groups on Facebook
24:47
just because I love to give my input when I can
24:51
and people are always like,
24:52
oh my gosh, you're so sick of beef and salt and butter.
24:56
Like what do I do?
24:57
And I'm like salmon guys or other seafood
25:01
and they're all in shock that I even said that.
25:05
They're like that's not carnivore.
25:06
I'm like, then what do you think it is?
25:08
It's literally an animal.
25:10
Like, but that just goes to show how people
25:15
will listen to one person who says eat beef and salt
25:20
and butter and then think that that's the way it is.
25:23
Then they go do any more research.
25:25
But it's like, no, once again,
25:26
you gotta be your own guinea pig
25:27
and you have to realize that all animals are included
25:32
in a carnivore lifestyle.
25:34
Now, if you're doing the lion diet,
25:36
I think it's just beef and salt and butter
25:39
maybe it's just beef, I don't know,
25:40
but I don't do that one.
25:42
So I don't care about that.
25:43
I've said.
25:44
Do you tend to default to nose to tail
25:47
or are you only eating specific parts of the animals?
25:51
Oh no, I'm nose to tail.
25:52
Through it.
25:53
You are, yeah.
25:54
I specifically eat salmon skin.
25:56
Every day I eat about two pounds of salmon skin
25:59
and the other pound of salmon that I eat
26:01
is the flesh or the neck or the,
26:03
I don't really like tails.
26:04
I'm not gonna lie.
26:05
I'll eat all of it.
26:06
And I am the type of person that loves to eat
26:09
the whole thing because I hate food waste.
26:11
Hate it.
26:13
So, yeah, definitely a nose to tail kind of person.
26:16
What other ancestral practices do you do?
26:21
I like to get outside.
26:22
I like to be with nature.
26:24
I'm moving Arizona, but it has been great
26:26
because it's just such a different environment
26:29
that I connect with.
26:30
It being in Georgia, it was like a jungle
26:33
and it just didn't, I don't like dewey climates.
26:36
So, I like dry weather and I grew up in Wyoming
26:43
so I was in mountains and stuff like that.
26:45
And I just like to,
26:47
just like just soak in the environment
26:49
and get away from the city and the hustle and bustle.
26:53
There's a time and a place for that.
26:55
And then there's also a time and a place
26:57
for just being out in nature
26:59
and just feeling alive in that way
27:03
and appreciating the world what it was
27:08
before the go, go, go, go, go happened.
27:11
Some people probably look at you and say,
27:13
oh, you're an extreme eater.
27:14
How does that translate to being a mom with kids?
27:16
Like, do you change, you cook more than one thing
27:20
or you just transferring what you eat to them?
27:22
How do you navigate the household
27:24
when you are eating what some people might think of
27:27
as different or extreme?
27:29
My kids eat my grove to pizza and chicken nuggets.
27:32
You're like, Moppy, you're the thing I'm in queen.
27:37
You're pushing on them the foods
27:40
that might cause the illness that you know.
27:41
So here's the thing, when I was a kid,
27:43
their age four and seven, I ate whatever I wanted.
27:47
I didn't care.
27:48
I don't, all of these types of things.
27:51
And here I am, extremely healthy.
27:54
I know that by my example,
27:56
my kids will adopt a healthier lifestyle
27:59
as they get older,
27:59
but I'm not going to cut them off from anything
28:03
because if anything,
28:04
that's gonna cause some sort of eating issue in the future
28:07
because my parents would say,
28:09
you're not allowed to eat XYZ QRS.
28:12
So I would go to my friends' houses
28:14
and overeat all that stuff.
28:16
And that became a very unhealthy relationship.
28:19
So nothing is off limits.
28:21
We do have a sugar day on Saturday once a week
28:25
because the kids need ice cream.
28:26
I mean, let's be real pizza and chicken nuggets
28:29
isn't exactly the healthiest thing I'm basically ever.
28:33
But they do eat some of the wild game meat
28:35
that is in the freezer.
28:37
But yeah, no, I don't have anything.
28:39
No, they don't because my younger child
28:42
has a lot of weird food allergies as well.
28:44
And I think salmon is one of them
28:46
because it makes them throw up.
28:47
But I'm not gonna lie,
28:48
this is gonna sound awful.
28:50
I hate sharing salmon.
28:52
So like, if they're not gonna want to eat it,
28:55
I'd rather just feed myself.
28:58
All right, I have some kind of speed round of questions
29:02
for you.
29:03
First thing comes your head.
29:04
Food people think is healthy, but you avoid.
29:07
Oh gosh, people think that like,
29:08
we're anola is healthy and I certainly don't eat that.
29:11
One ancestral food everyone should eat more of.
29:14
Oh, I'm gonna say salmon skin.
29:17
I was like literally waiting for it.
29:19
Salmon, the weirdest reaction you've gotten online.
29:24
My eyebrows are weird.
29:27
What, how are they weird?
29:28
What do you mean?
29:29
My eyebrows are untrustworthy.
29:31
I'm not one who knows anything about makeup.
29:34
And I just kind of, when I do my makeup,
29:37
I put, I just like, you know, darken that.
29:39
And I guess I do it wrong.
29:40
I don't know.
29:41
I'm like, I don't set up the beauty influencer.
29:44
So okay, absurd, absurd.
29:47
Okay, best way to eat salmon.
29:49
Pam fry it, make it nice and crispy.
29:52
And you would like it with anything specific butter
29:54
or any specific fat or anything like that?
29:58
No, because salmon skin is already really fatty.
30:00
Think like bacon, that's what salmon skin is.
30:03
So it's already amazingly juicy.
30:05
And I just like to put some salt on it, that's it.
30:07
Raw liver, yes or no?
30:10
No.
30:11
But you do eat liver, just not raw.
30:13
I do eat liver, I don't eat raw, I'm sorry.
30:17
I always ask this to everyone.
30:19
If you could bring back one ancestral practice,
30:23
what would that be?
30:26
That's tricky.
30:27
Cooking over fire outside.
30:29
Do you ever do that?
30:30
When we're camping, yeah, I think that's fun.
30:32
And it just gives food a different taste
30:35
that you can't replicate when you're at home.
30:38
Well, it's been super fun and informative.
30:40
I really appreciate your transparency.
30:43
And anyone that has not seen Gigi eats
30:47
or any of her channels, you really do have to check her out.
30:49
I mean, she's unabashedly just candid about who she is,
30:54
what she does.
30:55
She's, as you heard her today, she's very transparent
30:58
and open, she welcomes questions, feedback.
31:02
And I think you have one of the healthiest kind of mindsets
31:05
and just grounded personas that I have really met
31:10
in the influencer space.
31:11
Thank you.
31:12
And I appreciate you wanting me to be on your podcast.
31:15
You have two cookbooks.
31:16
Can you just share where people can experience you
31:19
what they can support you?
31:20
So I have two cookbooks on Amazon.
31:23
Well, actually, one on Amazon right now,
31:24
the other one you can contact me for
31:26
because I've decided to take it off of there.
31:28
I started eating a new YouTube channel
31:30
called One Table Spoon of I'll Give A F
31:33
because I don't.
31:35
Ah-ha!
31:36
But you could also find me at Gigi eats on Instagram
31:39
and same with Facebook.
31:41
You just Google me and you'll find me somewhere.
31:43
And I am the type of person that has to respond
31:46
every single DM she gets because I can't have
31:49
an unread notification.
31:51
So if one chat with me about whatever it is,
31:54
I'm here for you.
31:55
Thank you so much for joining me on Everyday Ancestral.
31:58
And thank you all for joining us as well.
32:00
Please let us know what you think, leave a message,
32:04
follow us, anything just to communicate
32:06
that you are there.
32:07
We love that and remember stick your ears.
32:10
Thank you so much for joining me on Everyday Ancestral.
32:15
If you enjoyed this episode, hit subscribe
32:17
so you don't miss the next one.
32:19
You can find the show notes, links and resources
32:22
mentioned at eatpluck.com.
32:24
That's E-A-T-P-L-U-C-K dot com.
32:30
And hey, if you know someone who'd get something out
32:33
of this, share it with them too.
32:35
Stay curious, live well, and keep it ancestral.