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Fantastic Four: First Steps Brings Hope Back To The Theaters!!! (No Spoiler Review) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: We're back. It ain't no more cloud. We back. We
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  Speaker 1: out here. No more evil cloud, No more evil cloud.
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  Speaker 1: We out here. We are a force. We are here
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  Speaker 1: and what's up y'all? Welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: four All Nerds Show. It's your boy, DJ Fin I
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  Speaker 1: as always, I'm joined.
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  Speaker 2: By Tatiana King d Grand that is the Tech also
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  Speaker 2: known as the Coldest Winter Soldier Ever, Doc Ay, Tessa
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  Speaker 2: Rak Thompson Facts the Destroyer, Tatiana Kang the Conqueror, and Lawandavision.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 3: Was you heard by my very specific aka's Ben Trim
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  Speaker 3: here in the Spaceship Tonight, Weed Richard's No, the.
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  Speaker 4: Other one got That's why I shook my head about.
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  Speaker 1: Uh the fling oh the fleet? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Ben Trim. You know I got to
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  Speaker 3: get some of that true. Oh good sir, Fling. Here
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  Speaker 3: we are in the spaceship. Back to review Fantastic Foe
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  Speaker 3: First Steps in theaters.
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  Speaker 1: This Friday, directed by Matt Did I get that right?
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  Speaker 1: Or no? I didn't get that right? Right? Yeah? Directed
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  Speaker 1: by Matt, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Not getting right our first thirty seconds because gee, Louise,
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  Speaker 2: the language.
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  Speaker 1: Oh language, that'll all be bleeped. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Bit shot I saw Matt Schachman is the director.
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  Speaker 3: Yees bit shout us to our editor extraordinary, mister Luna,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for saving us.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: But Matt Schatman directs Fantastic Four First Steps in theaters
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  Speaker 3: this Friday, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Friday, July twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I've lost back of time. You know, that's another story
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  Speaker 3: that we'll get back to in another day. Today we
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  Speaker 3: are here the review this movie. No spoilers, of course,
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  Speaker 3: not a word. I mean really, honestly, there's not much
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  Speaker 3: too spoil I will say.
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  Speaker 1: That that Disney didn't spoil a round.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess off area. You can tell me what
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  Speaker 3: was that in the last trailer that you said beforehand,
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  Speaker 3: because I didn't tell you after. Okay, cool, because I
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  Speaker 3: definitely didn't see that last trailer, so I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: whatever was spoiled. But you know, you know most of
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  Speaker 3: this film. This is the introduction of the Fantastic Four
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  Speaker 3: that we all know and love. Read Richard's Susan Storm
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  Speaker 3: Johnny Storm Ben Grimm, and they are fighting Galactus, who
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  Speaker 3: is invading their Earth because they are not on the
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  Speaker 3: same Earth six one sixth that we know and love.
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  Speaker 3: This is an alternate Earth that you know in the multiverse,
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  Speaker 3: of course, and it takes place in the nineteen sixties
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  Speaker 3: version of their Earth, where the fans Test four have
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  Speaker 3: been operating for a few years at this point, and
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  Speaker 3: their technology and read Richard's, especially.
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  Speaker 1: His genius, has.
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  Speaker 3: Pervaded through all levels of society of this Earth. So
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  Speaker 3: they're flying cars, things of that nature. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a little more science fiction, but still nineteen sixties vibe
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  Speaker 3: and off top. I want to give a real shout
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  Speaker 3: out to Matt and the whole production design of everything,
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  Speaker 3: because it really felt like you were in that vibe.
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  Speaker 3: I remember beforehand, I was comparing it to like Dick
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  Speaker 3: Tracy and how Superman Metropolis kind of has that same
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  Speaker 3: vibe and it's.
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  Speaker 4: Trying to it goes beyond.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Superman's Metropolis I'm talking about the most recent Superman
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  Speaker 3: is a little bit more of a nineteen thirties, nineteen
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  Speaker 3: forties Art Deco style, while this is definitely more like
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  Speaker 3: nineteen sixties New York, you know, like New York and
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  Speaker 3: then yeah, with the Fantastic Four thrown into it.
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  Speaker 4: It's retro futuristic.
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  Speaker 2: From like you said, from that standpoint of Fantastic four
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  Speaker 2: in their version of Earth, and it is it's transformative
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  Speaker 2: and that it really takes you to another place, like
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  Speaker 2: you do not feel like you're on the Earth six
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  Speaker 2: one six, whatever the Earth is, because that's the that's
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  Speaker 2: been up for.
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  Speaker 4: Debate again about whether or not we've been in sixty
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  Speaker 4: one six.
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  Speaker 2: But that notwithstanding, you do feel like you're you are
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  Speaker 2: on a different timeline of Earth.
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  Speaker 4: You do feel like you're in a different place.
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  Speaker 2: And that's like one of the many refreshing things about
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic four.
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  Speaker 1: Five.
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  Speaker 4: Was it Fantastic four first Steps?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the distinct We're back. It ain't no more
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  Speaker 3: Cloud were back.
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  Speaker 1: We out here, No more evil Cloud. No we're evil Cloud.
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  Speaker 1: We out here. We are a force. We are you.
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  Speaker 4: Know that's a distinguished right, oh, all the other ones?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, basically what you want to call it first steps?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and you mentioned it just how you have this
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  Speaker 2: whole story of who the Fantastic Four is. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's been done millions, it's been done like five times
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  Speaker 2: over in the last twenty years. But there is, as
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  Speaker 2: we know, there is a new generation of people who
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  Speaker 2: do not know who they are and do not have
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  Speaker 2: the backstory, and this still gives you the story of
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  Speaker 2: how they came to be. It fast forwards through a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that and then gives you right into the
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  Speaker 2: heart and depth of it.
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  Speaker 3: M I want to say that that was one of
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  Speaker 3: my things. I've been talking about this a lot on
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  Speaker 3: our reviews. Is the Usually for me, it's the first
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  Speaker 3: fifteen minutes of a movie. If it doesn't catch me,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm like, damn, I want to fast forward this
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  Speaker 3: first fifteen minutes, and that time I see this movie,
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  Speaker 3: I probably don't want to see the rest of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's just oh yeah, yeah, I just know that,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's when those first fifteen minutes aren't like, okay, I
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  Speaker 3: would watch this again, then usually the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: movie doesn't work for me either. And that's pretty tried
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  Speaker 3: and true for especially the last few reviews.
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  Speaker 1: That's been my gauge.
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  Speaker 3: Now I don't like the first fifteen minutes, I'm probably
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  Speaker 3: not gonna like the.
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  Speaker 1: Rest of the movie.
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  Speaker 3: There'll be scenes and things of that nature that I'll
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  Speaker 3: watch again a whole movie.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, Nah, that's not gonna work right.
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  Speaker 2: Away with that approach, because you have to commit, Like
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  Speaker 2: a movie is not like a show where you could
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  Speaker 2: just turn off.
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  Speaker 4: Yet you could just walk out the theater shore.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just like I committed two hours or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: how well the film is, and just to be like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: I got to sit here for the rest of this absolutely, or.
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  Speaker 3: Even if it's like there are scenes in it like
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  Speaker 3: the most recent mission impossible.
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  Speaker 1: I remember fifteen minutes on that. I was like, He's like,
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  Speaker 1: this ain't it. This ain't it? And then there are
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  Speaker 1: scenes that I can't wait to see you. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as watching that whole movie ever again, ain't nowhere right.
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  Speaker 1: I turned to you about ten minutes into this and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, they got me.
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  Speaker 4: They got it, ladies and gentlemen, we got them right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One point I wanted to add, just when you were
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  Speaker 2: explaining the just the from the basic terms of just
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  Speaker 2: how this world is built and how it is presented
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  Speaker 2: to us and this is the real to me, this
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  Speaker 2: is a very important point. Not only is this an
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  Speaker 2: alternate earth in the nineteen sixties retro future setting.
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  Speaker 4: It's also in the.
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  Speaker 2: Most idealized setting. So as far as I can tell,
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  Speaker 2: there's no racism. Yo, as far as I can tell,
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  Speaker 2: there's no colorism. As far as you ca'n told, there's
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  Speaker 2: noisms whatsoever. And everyone is ultra cooperative, I mean on
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  Speaker 2: a global scale, very cooperative. That's another reason why I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I know this is six one six, Nor is it
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  Speaker 2: any Earth that I know of, let alone any USA
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  Speaker 2: New York that I know of, New York being an outlining,
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  Speaker 2: And yes, you have a multiple pot of people, sure,
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  Speaker 2: but we had there's notes on We got notes on
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  Speaker 2: New York, right, there's notes on everything. And like I said,
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  Speaker 2: and really the other reason why this this felt transportive
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  Speaker 2: or transformative is just because the isms that I, as
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  Speaker 2: a black woman know very intimately, we're just not there.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, this is a fairy tale space.
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  Speaker 2: So and that's not shade. This is just giving you
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  Speaker 2: a better understanding of what kind of setting we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: There we go setting the table for people, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's something that for them to know because it's
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  Speaker 3: just like with the most recent Superman again, I's talking
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  Speaker 3: to Jay Slayer recently about it and he was like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: my kids loved it, not me. And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you got to go into it with the eyes of
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  Speaker 3: a child man, because it's that same thing and that Superman.
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  Speaker 3: You don't hear about isms and that, well, I will
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  Speaker 3: say Superman and these touches on that. Yeah, a lot
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  Speaker 3: more than even Fantastic for It.
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  Speaker 2: That's a way more imperfect most of these superfilms. Superfilms,
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  Speaker 2: that's it, you know, superhero films I've shown in perfect places.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yes, yes there were villains.
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  Speaker 2: Even the villains are like, don't seem that bad at
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  Speaker 2: least in this Fantastic for It. Right, So it's just like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: maybe misunderstood opposed to full blown.
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  Speaker 4: What's a baddism besides racism, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, sexism, sexism, misogyny, misogyny, Like, yeah, those do not
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  Speaker 3: seem to exist in this world, right No, And that
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  Speaker 3: is something that I don't want to say that it's
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  Speaker 3: lost over it. Just it's one of those things I
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  Speaker 3: think where you have to accept the effect of someone
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  Speaker 3: like Reid Richard's and someone like sus Storm, even though
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  Speaker 3: they are both to us white presenting. I mean, well,
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  Speaker 3: in this world, Read is played by Pedro Pascal, so
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  Speaker 3: but a super genius family who has you know, given
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  Speaker 3: theirselves to the world and what effect that would have
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  Speaker 3: on the world, and especially a world that has been
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  Speaker 3: used to intergalactic and you know, theme threats of that nature,
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  Speaker 3: where they might be more unified than us because they've
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  Speaker 3: met aliens, they've seen alien races, they've seen a lot
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  Speaker 3: more than we have at this point. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that might be one of the contributing factors to as
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  Speaker 3: to why the movie is the way it is, like
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  Speaker 3: you say, where we don't see any of these isms.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very idealized world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and as mentioned, I do think that's really important
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  Speaker 2: to hold that in your head when you go into
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  Speaker 2: It's like just in terms of if you do want
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  Speaker 2: to set an expectation for yourself, just take yourself out
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  Speaker 2: of this world. And it is actually because and as
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  Speaker 2: I said before, that's not shade.
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  Speaker 4: That's actually a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: And the main reason is that as when I came
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  Speaker 2: out of this film, I put my hands up to
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  Speaker 2: this guy and I said, prayers goes up, blessings come down,
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  Speaker 2: because I felt like, finally something good has happened to
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  Speaker 2: me recently. Besides Iron heart in the world of MCU,
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  Speaker 2: just in terms of just feeling happy, in terms of
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  Speaker 2: feeling satisfied, in terms of not feeling depressed, in terms
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  Speaker 2: of not feeling like beaten down. And that could also
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  Speaker 2: be derivative of what's going on in real life, which
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  Speaker 2: I understand, but also I've.
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  Speaker 4: Just in a lot of these films.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just even even in the TV shows, I just
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  Speaker 2: felt like, damn, we can't catch your break. Is something
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  Speaker 2: negative happened? Damn is something depressing happening? I got I
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  Speaker 2: came away from this feeling joyful. Yes, And that makes
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  Speaker 2: all the difference for me when it comes to one
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  Speaker 2: of the reasons why when it comes to this film,
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  Speaker 2: why I was really really happy with it.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't, I mean, Thunderbolts is definitely a lot more
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  Speaker 3: that's depressing. Yeah, it's a mental issues, a lot of things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I see what you mean, They're okay. So that
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  Speaker 3: being said, Yes, Iron Hart and Fantastic Four, and once
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  Speaker 3: again going back to Superman, I feel like Superman and
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic Four have a lot of the same DNA, I'll say,
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  Speaker 3: and I enjoyed both of them for that reason. Where
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  Speaker 3: at the end of it all, I was very overjoyed
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  Speaker 3: as a huge like you see behind me, you know
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  Speaker 3: the X Men of course and everything, but you see
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  Speaker 3: right in front of me, I got my Fantastic Four.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone who watches this show for or knows me for
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  Speaker 3: any length of time you cannot begin to see the
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  Speaker 3: length of galactus.
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  Speaker 1: You know, fiendom that I live in.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm also a huge Fantastic fore fan because of that,
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  Speaker 3: and shout out to of course stan Lee and Jack
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  Speaker 3: the King, Kirby and John Byrne, Ryan North. There's been
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  Speaker 3: so many great runs, but definitely John Burn and Ryan North.
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  Speaker 3: I really want to shout out because those are two
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  Speaker 3: of my all time favorite Fantastic Four runs. This got it,
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  Speaker 3: and it got it right off the break where you
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  Speaker 3: just full feel like you're in this fully lived in world.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're a Fantastic four fan, there are so
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  Speaker 3: many quick shoutouts in easter heads thrown in when you're.
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  Speaker 1: Like, oh yes, yes, okay, cool, we're here, We're in it.
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  Speaker 3: They get it, and so that you know the world
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  Speaker 3: building within the first fifteen to twenty minutes is so
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  Speaker 3: it's suptually done to me where I'm like, okay, this
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  Speaker 3: is great. It feels like Fantastic four. It feels like
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  Speaker 3: a world where a Fantastic four is for some time
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  Speaker 3: and have been saving the world. And that's the thing
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  Speaker 3: about the Fantastic before, Like if you're a fan of
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  Speaker 3: the comments there Marvel's first family, they are that lighthearted,
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  Speaker 3: not lighthearted because they have some very They are family,
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  Speaker 3: so they go through everything that a family would go through, but.
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  Speaker 1: They always save to day. They're like the doctor who
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  Speaker 1: of the MCU.
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  Speaker 3: They're Explorer is more than superheroes, so they're always in
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  Speaker 3: these weird dimensions off in space doing all this different stuff. Science, science, science,
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  Speaker 3: bitch madn it's bitch. And so that's how this felt,
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  Speaker 3: you know, straight up without the bitch. You know, there
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  Speaker 3: was some cerson in it, which I was like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't excessive, no, but it was nice and
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  Speaker 3: it worked for the setting, et cetera. And like I said,
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  Speaker 3: because this is a family who will have arguments, who
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  Speaker 3: will go through those scenes, you know, that all worked
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  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 1: I loved it pretty much beginning to end.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely want to get into some of the characters,
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  Speaker 3: and you know the add thing and you know, as always,
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  Speaker 3: once again Marvel's casting department.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just ef an incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I've enjoyed certain people in certain roles doing the
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic Four before, like Chris Evans is human torch chick
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  Speaker 3: list is the thing, but this is the first family
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  Speaker 3: right here.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, Ben, just around off that point about when
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned Easter eggs and all that, there is so
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  Speaker 2: much fand service done in the most tasteful way that
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  Speaker 2: I've never really seen in a long time. Most times
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  Speaker 2: when there's fan service, and I know I'm using the
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  Speaker 2: anime term, but it's even used here in these things, right,
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  Speaker 2: we talk about Easter eggs, you talk about homages and
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  Speaker 2: things like that, and things that are done, things that
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: are said to literally just stoke nostalgia and the people
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  Speaker 2: who have the history right or just to say, hey,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: we said the word. Things like that, like if someone says,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know something about the Force in a
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars film or TV show, right, even though it
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: may have nothing to do with Jedi, right, the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they say is because they're stoking that. There's so
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  Speaker 2: much of that in Fantastic Four, but it's done in
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  Speaker 2: a way that it's embedded, really balanced throughout the film,
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  Speaker 2: and there's things that there's so much of it that
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  Speaker 2: is so well embedded that you will miss it.
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  Speaker 4: And as you said, the first fifteen minutes, I was like, bro,
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  Speaker 4: I have to watch this again.
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, before the film got anywhere, I said, I
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  Speaker 2: have to watch this again.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that really shows the.
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  Speaker 2: Power of as you mentioned, world building, the good storytelling,
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  Speaker 2: and a good entry. When that first fifteen twenty minute
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  Speaker 2: was over, Ben looked at me and said, that was
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: the hell of an intro.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, talked about intro. I said, that's how
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  Speaker 3: you introd some movie. That's how you start off a
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  Speaker 3: movie that.
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  Speaker 2: It grabs you immediately, no matter where you stand in
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the history of knowing anything podcasts, before you come in
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  Speaker 2: there blank, having know nothing, you are good good.
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  Speaker 1: After that first sity minutes, you'll understand everything about them.
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  Speaker 4: If you have every figurine since nineteen fifty two.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever the year was, you will be free. You won't be.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, what word can I use as well above
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  Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised, and you will be thrilled, enamored.
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  Speaker 3: You will be you pleased, satisfied, satisfied service. Hey, we
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  Speaker 3: gotta be careful when you say that, but yes, like
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  Speaker 3: serve this royalty.
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  Speaker 2: It's so much to see, it's so much to do,
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  Speaker 2: it's so much to learn. And that's another aspect again
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: when we're talking about Marvel to me, Marvel reconstituting themselves.
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  Speaker 2: It's just I've felt where I'm missing the will to
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  Speaker 2: learn or the will to want to care about what's.
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  Speaker 1: Going on around me. I'm being on with you. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like I don't really want to.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Learn more about this, even though I may already known.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, you know, because the delivery was off,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: there was something off about it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: This feels right, This feels really well thought out. In
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: terms of the writers we see Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Jeff Kaplan, and of course that director Matt Shackman. They Hmm.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I think why I'm having this type of reaction because
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just so happy. I just don't be that happy
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: coming out these films.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Like that lately lately, I mean I mean lately for
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: like four five years. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: yeah that being taken there, I remember Covid et cetera.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been rough.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's been rough since Endgame has been hit or miss
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and a lot more, miss not more, miss a lot.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: More miss Okay, we could go just more into you
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: mentioned the casting.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I will still like chick List is still one
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: of the deef if not the definitive thing for me, however,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Kama Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Evan Evan Boss back Rock.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Aka cousin from the Bear, Yeah, I think he is
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the true successor. Yeah, and I hope and I would
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: love to find out. I hope I get a chance
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to interview him. Just did he even speak to Michael?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Did they have words.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Michael's blessing anything? I saw a thread from Michael today
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: where he was giving them their blessing. He said, there's
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: been a lot of you know, talk to him for
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the last two months since the run up, and he's
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: been you know, overjoyed to pass it along.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I had always said, oh, no one's touching tickles when
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it comes to this, because you know, he embodies that
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that humanity within the.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Rock, right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And I knew as soon as they cast cos it
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: was a rap, I mean not a rap, but I
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: knew that he was gonna put his stamp on it.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: But Evan, No, Evan put his foot into ben Grim. Yes,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: he put his foot into it. I would, I will
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: say I wanted to see more. I understand why they
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: didn't focus on his cap. They touched on it, like
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Ben is a very tragic character. He's a tragic and
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: this is this is, this is base of knowledge, just
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the fact that with the fantastic foward getting their powers,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he's the only one that changed physically, like to the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: point where he can't turn back to just having normal
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: skin or human human normal skin, a normal face like
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: he's he's and this is through every iteration of it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: He's constantly looking himself. He's constantly doubting himself. He's constantly
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I have the feeling like, why would they might love me?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I literally am a fucking bold thing, right, I'm a thing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And even though we get a little bit of that,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: not as deep as you want it to be, you
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: still feel the pain and like and maybe that's an
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: ebbing thing, but this man.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Can emote his ass off.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I think, like you said that you could have gotten more.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: But I also loved that what they did with the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: time with him, with with normal people on the street,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: all of those things contributed. Because Red and Ben's relationship
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: is very special. They were best friends before he became
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: the test pilot that led to this. So it's like
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: you said, it's steeped in tragedy and steeped in drama,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: and this is just the beginning. So that was more
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: than enough for me. And again, like you said, Evan
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: and down the line, for me, this is now the
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: first family. This is they got it. You know, all
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: four of them did it. It's not there's a there's
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: not a weak link here. All four of them did
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: the damn thing. This is Marvel's first family. This is
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: the future foundation. This is the Fantastic Four.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: What did you feel about Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Incredible and one like.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Thing that I really I mean, there's a lot of
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: things that I really liked about the portrayal of this
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: version of the Fantastic Four, but one thing that I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: really want to touch. I love Joseph when from Stranger Things.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I can never get over how much my man looks
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: like Robert Downey Junior. It is the weirdest thing to
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: me in the world. But I do want to say
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: that I love this portrayal of Johnny Storm because they
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: didn't go with the idiot hot rod Johnny Storm. They
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: went with someone who would be Susan Storm's brother, because
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Suitsan Storm is a genius as well.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you wouldn't have an idiot younger brother
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: like that, Well you could, you couldn't good. But I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: hate that trophy.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It's very trophy and it doesn't justify why they would
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: all be tagging along on these scientific missions. At the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: end of the day, these are highly scientific missions and
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you can't have a bumbling idiot next to you who
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: don't know one plus one is two, right. And I'm
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: glad you mentioned that because I did want to mention
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that that they made it so like everyone felt everyone
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: felt equal, like, no, no one suit smarter than read,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: but they felt like, yes, they all belonged in that space.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: No one felt dumber than the next. Everyone contributed, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I I will agree with you.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: On that point.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: When it comes to Joseph Quinn's Johnny Storm, they played
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: with the trope but then elevated him. Yes, he wasn't
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: just pure oh dumb, dumb, sexy whatever he calls himself
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: right like it was.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: He has purpose.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And that goes back to something I wanted to mention
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: about the Easter eggs and things of that nature that
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: you were talking about is that this goes back to
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: the very beginning of the comments. First of all, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: as we said, it's I keep saying Marvel, this is
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: their first family. Stand and Jack, this is the first
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: comic book. This is what led off the Marvel revolution
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: is Fantastic Four, and they as a group of characters
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: have always lived in this world where their celebrities, you know,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: their faces are known, Like the Fantastic Four have always
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: been that group. They're not the X Men where they're
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: feared and hated. They're not the Avengers where they're like
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Earth's Mighty as heroes. They're their first family. Everybody knows them.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: They're on the lunch boxes, they're.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: On this serial, the commercialized, commercialized.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: They have a comic book that Ben Grimm will walk
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: down to the Marvel offices and complain how they get
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: his adventures wrong.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: You know, that's how it goes into comic.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: So they incorporate all those type of things into this
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: and I loved all of that, and that's why, like
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Joseph Quinn has a lot of those moments where you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: he gets to show off how the world reacts around
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the Fantastic Yeah, like what is that it's like almost breaking.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: It's like breaking the fourth warble not fourth wall, yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: because it's like it's the it's the excuse me, it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the world of the film's fourth wall, but not the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: actual real life fourth wall.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: So what is that the fifth wall?
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's one of those weird things.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: But it's like the Fantastic Four in Marvel Comics have
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: a monthly comic that's written about them and in the
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: comic book that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: They have the comic, like yeah, it's but it's like
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's like the real thing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: It's like as a Fantastic four suddenly appeared in New
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: York right now, right, If suddenly there was four dudes
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: of powers, Marvel Comics would be like, Yo, we need
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: to make a comic about them, and then they would
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: start consulting them and being like, yo, right, right, what
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: are your you know, what are your adventures about? Okay, cool,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: let's write about those. And so that's how it words.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: It's that type of thing, and then eventually they would
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: have movies made about them and people would be like, Yo,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: what did you do?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's write about that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: And so that's how it works in the comics, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: that's how it's working in this universe that this first
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: steps is taking place in. And I loved that because
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: that's like their celebrities, you know, their faces or known
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: and they always say to day you know, they bring science,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: like we said, to the job.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So it's like they're this thing where they're celebrated. Yeah,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it's believable.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I would say that it's more believe because they don't
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: rely on the tropes or they they and they do
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: this a lot within throughout the movie with almost everything
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: where they take you down one alley and then they
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: pull you into another, like think you going one way
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and they go the other way.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And they do this with each of the characters too.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, you think you know how I'm going
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to present you this character, but now I'm gonna throw
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you over here to give you a little bit of
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: a curve ball, just so you don't anticipate and try
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to guess where this is. Where we're going with this,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and it's done. It in its great again done in
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a very almost respectful manner to Disvergeon of Johnny Storm
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: because as mentioned, it does give him more it gives
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: him more.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Agency. Yes, and I think that comes up a lot.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Ryan North who's the current Fantastic Four writer in the
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: comments and it's absolutely killing it. And his run is
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: like that where it's a very science approach for they're
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: all very brilliant and even though Johnny is still hot,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: ride fun loving god, he's not an idiot, but yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: he's not got a job. Also, and that's another one
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to, is being Grim and
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: this for Ben Grim. You know, he is that tragic figure.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: He's loved in this. He is never called a monster.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: He's not feared.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: The fans, thege, you know, the people on the street,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: all everyone loves him. And I think that is a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: very dope version of the thing because that's you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: they've had that version of it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I've seen the opposite of where it was like, oh
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: yeah it's sue Johnny and yeah, no, I.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Don't really sad.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that, you know, going with this
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: version where they're all celebrities and he's even accepted who
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: You know, he can walk down the street, people know
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: him by first name. He knows people my first name.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: They they invoked the Yancey street name and even the
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: gang a little bit for comic book fans, that's something
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: you know. Ben Grimm is from Yancey Street and the
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Yancey Street Gang is something that comes up in the
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: comics a lot. So it was all those little touches
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that are just fantastic. Can we talk about.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Storm Vanessa?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Talk about Vanessa?
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Vanessa a face card?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean it's like a long running.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Joke about people who use like powers that are either
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: you know, like mind type powers or powers that you
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: can't exactly see, but it's what it's doing.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Kinetic shit. You gotta serve face.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: She serves face so well, you feel it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: You feel it. Yeah, and Vanessa carry I love her
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: as that.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, my yes, She's done a lot of things,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: but my main thing where I really fell in love
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: her was because of Mission Impossible. Same and so I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, I want to see her in everything,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: and to see her.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: In this like she eats, she eats when it comes
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: to this roll suit.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen her in a lot of things. Oh
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: you know, it's pretty much mission impossible in this, and
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: so I was concerned because I didn't know. And then
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Mission impossible, but she is such a dope character. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: wasn't sure if that was just you know, was she
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: one note or could she do?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Sue Storm? And she is Sue's Storm because she.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Is the mother, she is the warrior, she is the intelligence,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: she is the heart of the team.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: She is you know, the sister, the everything that the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: leader from the.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Leader everything like she's like a she's I'm every woman.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That's yes, yes, she do that. She does it all.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: And Sue is such an important character to me, Like
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I said, I'm a big Fantasic fore fan.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And a little quick history because I've been thinking about
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: this a lot.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Is Susan Storm is one of those characters who when
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: you know she first debuts, she's the invisible girl, right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: With mister fantastic girl. Right. She doesn't even have force
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: fields the first. All she can do is turn invisible.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: She is a liability on most of the original mission.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It's sad because every time she turns in visible to
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: the villains like well I can see you through this,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: you know, or some other way, they can always find
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: a way. She's always get knocked out or captured. For
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: like the first fifty something issues. It's terrible. You know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: she's constantly getting played. Then she gets to Forest Fields
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and the other you know, writers come in and start
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: really using her better than Staying. Even Staying you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: does better with her later on, But John Burrn it
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: takes until John Byrne right until the nineteen eighties, so
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: like twenty something years of this character. At this point,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Sue Storm has had Franklin in the comics and I
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: think she's Miss Terry.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she has.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: She has miscarried her second child in the comics, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: she's still going around by the Invisible Girl. It takes
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a violation by this character who basically does mental and
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: whatever else type you know, attack on her, that is,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: you know, a pure violation of her being for her
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: to finally say, no, I need to be called the
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: invisible woman.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: That's fucked up for obvious reasons.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a ridiculously sad, you know thing that
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: it took this character that long for men because they
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: were always writing her to be like, well, maybe should
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: be a woman instead of.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: The answer is because men, Yes, because men.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: And so that being said, this is this is not that,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: this is the fully developed Susan Storm, the invisible woman,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: with the invisibility, with the force fields to the max,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: the most dangerous character in the FF honestly, and that's
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: been established through the comments for a long time now.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Like she is.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Easily the most dangerous character when it comes down to it,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: she can murder you in a dozen different ways.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're going down to the old X men
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: when they say, oh you are mega level, she's one
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: She's one of the problem.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: She's a big joker.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And yes, just just in speaking of power levels, they
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: were consistent, Thank you, Marvel. They were consistent, and they
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: really showed you these are not the ones to fuck
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: around with, none of them.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: The power set that they were showing for each of
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: these people.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: And how they wielded their powers and the creativity around
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: that is done very strongly. And I really got a
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: sense of like when when someone was displaying a level
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: of power that was overwhelming, that it felt yes and
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: looked overwhelming, And that again is just an aspect that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: had been missing that now it's like, Okay, thank you
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: for showing me what it means when this nigga Johnny
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Storm is on fire nova when he when he doesn't
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: show me what it means when you say Ben Grimm
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: is as strong as whatever they say, He's as strong
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: as show me what it means in terms of yes,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: reads intelligence, but also the fact.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: That this nigga could fucking stretch longer than you think,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: right Like.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But all that to say back to Sue, how they
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: show her power levels and not just her her superpowers,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: her mental fortitude, her mental fortitude, the fact that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: She is nearly as smartest read.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Everything about her was so well done.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: And then just looking at it from a woman's lens,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I was like, thank God, Like I didn't explain nothing less,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: but I was just like, thank God.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, I gave you that whole backstory
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: to know how she used to get played in the comics,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: but current writers, including even going back to John Byrne,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: but Ryan North once again utilizes to to the peak
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: of her ability. And I always love seeing that and
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: this movie against it. She is the heart and soul
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: of the FF. She is the most powerful member of
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the FF, and all of that was fully on display.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: She's everything, And of course I can't say, but there's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: one scene where I was I was gagged.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: That was just like really really, I was waiting for that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I already knew really and I know exactly were talking
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: about it, and I was like yep. I was like, wow,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: that's right, talk about that's my woman. And then I
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: also want to say, like you were talking about the
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: powers and the usage of powers, this goes back to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: the First Avengers. We're all sitting in the theaterm like,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: and there's power combinations being displayed on train. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, okay,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: that's so, you know, like, oh those two did that
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: and they combo together, okay, fire, and it's nothing being said,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just happening. And that's like the First
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Avenger is when at one point Iron Man flies by
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: and shoots cap shield and Cap holds up his shield
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: and reflecting and gets some of the aliens, and it's
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: just instinctual because these two barely even know each other
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: at that point, while the fantast four are working together,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: you know, for years as a team and as a family,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and that's all shown, you know, through their actions and
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: through the acting, I mean and the acting and the
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: fighting scenes.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Then we have Pagro Pascal as Reid Richards for not
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: read Big Zaddy Energy.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Paige Ho is so smart, just how.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: He takes on characters and brings them to life, the
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: cadence of which he speaks. When he's speaking as Read
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that it's different. And when I say different, I mean
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Read does not speak like other people. Right, that's because
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: he doesn't think like other people, right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: And he I don't know.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I look at him like a doctor Manhattan type
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: where I'm just like, are you with me right now?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Like are you even on the same plane of existence
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: as I? You're sitting next to me, but are you
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: here right now?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Read is not?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And you see that like he has social he has
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: social skills, yes, but he's different. Yes, he's different in
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: his speech, his tone, the way obviously the way you think.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: But it's in his presentation as a person and the
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: way that Pedro was able to deliver that, like him
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: giving him a script he says, okay, like what like
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: there's been lots of iterations to read what made him
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: say this is the way I'm going to say these words.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: And once y'all watch it, you'll get what I'm saying.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: When I'm when I'm expressing about how he speaks is
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: so vastly important to understanding the characterization of Reid.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: This is just read down like I just keep doing that.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: This is the perfect casting of the fans that suffording me.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And while I can definitely say that, like you said,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I would like more of Johnny and more of Ben,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the interactions between Read and Sue, and that's what I
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: was waiting for.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Those are real.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: That's I believed it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I mean from the the movie opens with them too,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: and they carry it from then on in chemistry is
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: the word.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Of the day. The sex, you know, I just saw it,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: like like in the mortal words of my show, this
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: guy fucks, this girl fucks. These two right here, these
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: two right here, they doing some serious good fucking.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: And honestly, you and they're joking about it. You want that,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: you want that.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I don't mean those two actors. I just mean, like, no,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Character characters are.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: What I was gonna say, was you want that?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: You want that to be to show through through the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: character work of these actors when they're portraying these characters,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: because yes, you mentioned that this is a family, but
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: also these two are a couple, and they are a couple.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: These are our super family, and presumably, at least in
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: this universe, the only super folks around that are really
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: helping doing a lot, and there are a couple going
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: through couple of things and going through the impossible, right,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And there's got to be sometimes where it's just like
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: you said, the sex, it comes through and and and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I don't mean literally, I just mean that energy and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that connection between them.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Like fury and passion, you get.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: They're both so passionate, and so there are several scenes
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: where they both get exceptionally passionate about whatever the topic
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: is at hand.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: And you've seen them like damn, should I be here
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: right now? Like right, y'all need a room real quick.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And again I'm not talking about physical I'm talking about
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: just talking drama, the drama, and that's why I want
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to see more. There is the drama between them, but
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: not from toxicity.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: It's just from love and from a dramatic situation. And
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: it's strenuous situation. Yes, and I love it because that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: what the Fantastic for us all about, you know, And that,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: oh man, this movie hits all the way on that ben.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Before we get the characters stuff, we gotta talk about
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: your Man's Ralph Innocent as as well as Julia Garner
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: as Shlabah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Let me take a real quick all right, hold up,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: hold up, yeah, because I've been waiting on this.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I've been waiting, you know, all my life place in
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Phil Collins right now, you know, let me talk me,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: let me double fisted real quick.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: If you all understand there's another behind me, there's like,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: you know, twenty or so. Look, I put it on threads.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: The cloud days are over.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: We have.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: A terrifying, a force of nature, a essential part of
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: the universe, the third force between eternity and death. Galactis Galen,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: the only survivor of a prior universe.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: We have it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: If you are a fan of Galactus, like I'm a
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: fan of Glactys. If you know nothing of Galactus, this
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: movie will make you a fan. Ralph Emerson, that's the man,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: and fucking incense. Fucking incredible Ralph Incredible is what I'm
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: calling that man from now on because he did that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: From the moment I'm.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Sitting there with it in the theater with down are
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: like cheering, come on, because you know they're they're building
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: up to the moment we're we're gonna see Galastics and
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: his intro is pure perfection. I'm so glad that Marvel,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: at least as far as I saw. Don't watch any
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: more commercials because I didn't see ship. I didn't know
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: exactly how I looked. I remember all was the foot
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: walking through the city and the shadow.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: And they still didn't really show you exactly how it looks.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: But he looks supposed to look out that.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: He looks exactly like this big joint. If you have
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the Marble has Lab or you google the Marble has
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Lab Galactics and that's a perfect reputation. I mean, it's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the colors of everything. This even the right colors to me.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But it's it is what it is. It is they
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: did it. It's the force, it's the feeling, it's the fear.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: This nigga is the most terrifying thing in the universe,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: and you feel that with Galactus, you feel.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: It insignificant nets to this force of nature and all
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that that is on display.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: You feel it, you see it. You even in the
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: dialogue that's shared by the Lactus.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: As you mentioned the way, and this is also just
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: a shout out to overall the effects of the film,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the sex on the film, We're top tier, top top,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: top tier, and the way Glactus was depicted, I felt
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: like Omar coming type shit, like yes, when he was there, all,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: We're fucked like it was nothing about there was no
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: there was no all you could do is be filled
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: with trepidation all all. And then also in the same tone,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: at least for me, Julia Garner and Shallabah Sho talk
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: about you said, I already knew Gallectus to be terrifying.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't know I'm I'm I'm from the norm red days,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: So I didn't know much about Shalla Ba.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Charla Ball is insane. Yeah, in terms of how they like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I've always known Harold's you know, literally, it's a herald
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: of the apocalypse, right, It's a herald of the worst
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: thing you could think of.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Sure, but I'm like, oh, these niggas just say, well
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: they got to stay in dip, right. And then also
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I've seen the stories.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Particularly from like X Men, where like particularly like Noring,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, they start realizing like, ah, maybe
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't be doing this, right, So they're trying to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: redeem themselves. The last my last outing with with herolds
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, they're trying to redeem They're trying to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: be helpful, right, this is not that this is Omar
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: coming Shala Ball, right, and and with nor remorse, and
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: it's very reminiscent of Tea two, you know, the liquid
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: metal sermon it. Think about that, and I'm talking to
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: people listening, think about that, and how ridiculously.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Scary that was, at least at least in that time
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: And just you know, put that that fear onto Shalla
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: ball and just maybe up it by a trillion, because
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: we're talking about a celestial intergalactic threat.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the level.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And that is precisely what you need when we're talking
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: about a big bad of this nature. Right, that's precisely
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: what you need when we talk about being consistent with
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: how you express why should I Why should I fear
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: this bad quote bad guy?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: This is why Like, yes, yes, Galactus, East Worlds, whatever.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: But the coming of him, the heralding of him before
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: he arrived, that shit is insane.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that being said, like you said, noorn Rad is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: often known as the peace love all that time.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Ah, my bad fam let me helped me.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: But this is even then noron Rad is supposed to be,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: especially when you first see.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Him, unknowable and angel of death. Right.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: And so that is the version of Nora and that
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I've always known as well before he you know, redeems
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: himself and Shalla is the same thing.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: You know, they go through it. Not all the Heralds
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: are like that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Though didn't give me intel it. Charla gave me a
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: y'all are cooked.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Well that's angel of death. Yeah, but I don't know.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Norn gave me the sorry for you guys.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I felt like a tinge of Oh it's hopeless, but
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you know, this is just how it is. Where almost
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Shalah was giving me the energy of of like no hope.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: But that's it, like it is no hope, and this
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: is how it is, and that's the this is how
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: And also almost it's almost the same, but it's also
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: just a tinge of Charlat just gave me a tinge
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of meanness, a hints of more mean than what I
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: was used to. Let's just say that maybe that's the
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: difference because they're both doing the same things, but it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: just a tiny.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: More bit of.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I don't like.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I still got the regret with Shla, and I think
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: that's what's really great because that's.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: After the fact. Yeah, well, I'm talking about right when
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: you meet her, it's.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Just like, yikes, well when you meet her, as we've
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: seen in the commercials and everything, it is, you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: the announcement of doom, and that's what it is. It's
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: not like that's the thing Shala and the Silver Surfer
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: character in general is someone who has accepted what Galactus is.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Like Galactus is a as they say, an essential part
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: of the universe. It is something that is supposed to
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: be eating plants. It's just fucked up that, you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: we having to be on one. So that's how you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Silver Surfer looks at it in general, and that's why
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: you get that feeling of eh, like I don't know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: it's just it's.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Just it's the hey, this is an organism that just
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: showed up to your planet. Sorry, fam like this is
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: the yeah, this order showed up and then like it's
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: something it's just a level of intent there.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: It was just something that was slightly different than what
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I was expecting. Let's say that I think, well, yeah,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: and it wasn't bad.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I was just saying no, yeah, as I've said, like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: because there's different versions of Surfer, this was like, okay.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Was intense.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let me say that it was more intense than yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: And that's how that's how it should be, you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that's how Silver Surfer.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: No matter Noring, whoever, it is, no matter what herald,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: because there are many heralds that there's fire Lord, there's Tamer,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: there's more, there's air Walker, there's many heralds, and no
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: matter which one nova shows up, it's a feeling of
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: all of you are going to die and there's nothing
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: you can.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Do about it, because it ain't about the herald. It's
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: about what's coming. It doesn't matter how they say it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: They just a little more nicely.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: You can show up as a fucking bozo the clown
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: and do bat slips and be like, oh, you're.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Gonna die be and it's still show up, right, you
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: know you're gonna be like, what the fun? That's kind
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: of corny, And then this nigga shows up and you're like, oh,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't corny.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're right, and you know what, that's
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: just I realize now that's just coming from my last
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: memories of Noring, which is that's what I'm saying.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Trying to be helpful, but it doesn't matter.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Try to be because when this nigga show up, You're
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: still gonna get eight, Like, thanks for trying to help nigga.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I'd rather nigga keep it real, you know what I mean.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: I'd rather nigga show up like nigga, all your niggas, Nigga,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I've done this over and over again, and this nigga
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: cooks everyone.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: The effects on Julia as Shallah look great, true surfer
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: energy throughout the film, from the way.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: She moves, the way she all the way she presents. Yes,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be happy with that presentation.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: There are lots of other side characters that show up
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: to the delight, I know.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: But every time they name the character, Ben said yes, yes.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, And it's a lot of just everybody. Yeah, they
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: named so many, like Goosey fantastic characters.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: That's why I said it was fan service, because they
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: didn't name damn there everybody.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they name a lot of people, y'all, Like if
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: you're apt fan. There are a lot of shout outs
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: to all the various things like that we've seen the
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Future Foundation, all the different incarnations I'll say, the Fantastic Four,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: And then even in the credits, I was reading and
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: they gave us a lot of shout outs to a
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: bunch of the creators like Ryan North and John Byrne,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: who are just responsible for so much of this Lord
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: that we're seeing on screen.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: So I really like that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: And as others have said, this is definitely a true
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: love letter to Jack the King Kirby, which I want
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: to take a second and say something because stand Aman
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Lee has been pretty much driven into our consciousness due
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: to his cameos.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace to both of them. But Jack is
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: often not given enough credit.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Like Jack is known as the King, he is known
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: in front of the greatest artists of all time. He
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: revolutionized comic book art for all time. But as far
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: as what he contributed to the X Men, to the
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Fantastic Foward, to their.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Double, to the DNA of comic books, to the.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: DNA of Marvel especially, it's often not given enough credit. Yeah,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: because Stan.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Often you know, it's like, oh, well, he wrote all this,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: but that's not exactly true, and Jack did maybe probably probably,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: especially when it comes to the creating a lot more
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: the heavy lifting. Stan is definitely the salesperson who made
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: it where they became the brand that they became, but
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: without Jack's pre a genius. And I say that, I
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: want to say it again and again, and I mean,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: god fucking damn genius. Put him on the level of Michaelangelow,
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: any of them type of you know, great artists you
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: want to ever name, Jack Herbie has to be on
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: that list. And I'm so happy that this film takes
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: the time in several different ways and in one beautiful,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: absolutely beautiful way that I won't reveal here to give
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: the tribute to Jack King Kirby.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also just because I don't want to make
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: sure we mentioned it, Herbie that's actually played by someone,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Matthew Wood.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Herbie was cute. It's gonna tell a lot of toys
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder. I mean, he ugly as fuck. I
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: don't know how many I'm gonna sell.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Toys, because it's like it was like, I don't think you're.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Gonna he wasn't annoying.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: It's not like it's wasn't annoying.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: There was.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I wasn't annoying, which says to be the case when
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: they try to introduce a character for for selling toys sake.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he was not annoying.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: And Herbie has a long history in the comic there
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: alternate you know, cartoons, et cetera.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, one of the main other things
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: why this film is so strong was the way it sounded.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: The score.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not and not soundtrack.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: It wasn't all soundtrack, but in terms of like regular
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: contemporary music or anything like that.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: The score yeh, dope, sensational.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it completely what as like from every and this
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: is probably what led to me feeling like this didn't
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: feel like it didn't feel episodic. It didn't feel like
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I saw hard lines of act one, act two, Act three.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't feel that at all.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I just felt like this was one continuous story which
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: has also.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Something that and this is not just Marvel films, a
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: lot of films just like you can see the.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Lines of delineation like the first act, then we're gonna
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: have the train in matage.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Then we're gonna do this like it's very formulate.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: You don't feel like I didn't even remember when one
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: act quote act began and one ended, or when one.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Scene like half the times the scenes blend so seems
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: to me with another.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize they was done talking. It was they
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: was off that topic. Now they're going to the new one.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: And what helped that tremendously was the score. Yes, the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: the the orchestra, the orchestral sounds.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: And gets the effects, of course, but it felt.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Very grand. Yeah.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: It gave me Flash Jordan triumphant, you know, Space Opera.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Star Wars, Dune.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: It was the dramatics.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: It was a fantastic twist, you know.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: And it's one of those, like the main Fantastic fourth
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: theme that we've heard in the commercials and stuff. When
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: it comes back up throughout the movie after you've heard
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: it once, you're like, ooh, it's an instant classic theme
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Like that theme is something.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be right there with the Avengers theme, like
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: when I hear the adventure theme in the movie, you know,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: And that's the same thing when they played that Fantastic
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: fourth theme, I'm gonna get hype every time.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: And they don't o d on anything like And that's
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: why I said a lot of times where I didn't realize,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: like one, like all the scenes were blending so seamlessly
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: within another, like it was literally the lived experience of
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: this family. And like the soundbeds just like when they're
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: talking and there's as you say, there's this maybe there's
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: a triumphant there's some happening and then you know, then
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: then there's a lull and and and then it waves
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: on to some another sound like it's so seamless.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a moment when.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Surfer is chasing Torch and I'm like, ah, well, replay
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: that scene that music over and over again.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Oh man, the music was.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Just so on point.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: We already mentioned that. The I think there was only
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: one thing where I had a question about the way
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: it looked effects wise, but everything else was was solid,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: solid as hell.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: You know, anyone who was CGI or had CGI bits to.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Them, even even Ben Grimm being wanted like, I don't
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: know what was necessarily practical versus what was just.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Digital, but it looked good. He looks really really good.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to give.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Away one of the little gags that they do with him,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: and you may see it in like the trailers or whatever,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: but they.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: But they do a gag with him that works so
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: well with his character. It works.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Is it been in the comics, Yes, But I just
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I just really liked how they gave him. They expressed
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: his humanity, not and also how he's active, but how
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: he looked and you know the big blue, the big.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: The eye here we talked about the blue eyes and
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: all this stuff.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Like it's very strong.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: When we say character, writing, direction, cinematography, action, the action.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Crazy, the fights crazy.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's Glactus like it's Glatus on screen.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: How anyone who've read any comments where they have a
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: big Galactus battle. I even think they did, Yeah they did.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: They did a shot from one of the famous Fantastic
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Four versus Galaptus battles done by John Burns.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: So it was it was just the comics come to
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: life in terms of that for me, And that's just
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: what I've been waiting for my whole life. Y'all understanding,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Like g Latus and me go back to like middle school,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: that's when I first became a god damn fiend in
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: this nigga.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: So it's it's a long time coming for me, and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: it was perfection.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I had no notes on how Galastus, the Surfer the
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Four looked in their battles throughout the movie, and just
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: not just the battles, but just how they moved, how
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: they interacted with each other, Like I'm talking about before
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: all the different power team ups things of that nature.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: So for the torch everything dope.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just the one of the last ones that
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, but I just want to bring it
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: up again.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: There's so many like.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: False like there's so many false endings and false uh
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: like red herrings about how a scene is gonna go. Yeah,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: and I think they're like there were major ones, and
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I literally think, to go along with the motif that
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: it happened four times. There were four literally because I
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: was counting while I was in the there there were
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: four major times where you thought shit was one way
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: then it changed the other way, and to to to
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: your great excitement, because it's just like it keeps you
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: on the edge of your seat, It keeps you engaged
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: and yeah, like we were both sitting up like, yo,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: what is about to happen next? Like I'm excited to
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: watch this and which is why even coming out, I said, Yo,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I gotta watch this again. I will pay the money
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: to see this. We also saw this on Imax.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: This is one of the things.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: It looks great. It is. It is one of them
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: films I was shot for Imax. Go see you on
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Imax if you can.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because even just like the interactions like the opening
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: scene when I'm like ooh, I was like, oh.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: This is beautiful, so.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Much stuff to see. Yeah, it's it's it's colorful.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: It's not the neon brightness colorful. It's just colorful that
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: it feels like it has life. Yeah, and it's not
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: dull if you will, right, Like there's stuff that could
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: be colored but be dull, you know, Like there's certain
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: films that have done that unfortunately, which is like an oxymoron,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: but this is not it. This this gives you life,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: This gives you bigger And I just got to say
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: just overall, they won Mark.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is definitely right, we heep saying, you know,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: since end Game, but it's Thunderbolts proved that they were
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: back on track and this is.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: You know, so a one two punch for the summer
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: They definitely you know, came up this summer and with
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Superman being as good as it is, I think that's
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: really just great for superhero films in general to have
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: this great summer that they're having, where all three of
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: these films.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: To me are four, like four out of five at
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: the lowest.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Ye all three of them absolutely, I would probably rate
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: the same, you know, I four and a half out
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: of five.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh for four for Fantoms four, I'm saying, like, yeah,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: four and a half B plus A minus.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I probably rate it that way.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: And with the lattics, I'm going like a A, like
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: it's like for me, but I agree they did.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: That's someone who's who I love. I love Galactis person.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, the fiend like you, but I
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: love it and know they dialogue nothing on the table, and.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: The way he speaks is just it's so perfect. It's
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: so poetic, it's so like epic, it's so much I am.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: I'm a billions of year old force, my dude, Like,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just have no time for your infemessal lives.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: You know you are not here but for an instant
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, you know. Yeah.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: They they left nothing on the table when it came
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: to this film, and I had high hopes, but this
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: completely exceeded my expectations.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: So this is one of the rare times I.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Actually hope that they make a billion dollars with this
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: so that we can really see what more they can do.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Uh, they got to keep Matt Shackman on. Oh yeah,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: they you got to let that man cook.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: He got his trilogy is guaranteed. It has to be.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: It has to be.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: There is a both a mid credits end and credits scene,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: So stay for that. You absolutely want to stay for that,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Yes you do. I can't say why, but you gotta.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: If you are a com up with fan and you
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: know about the character of Franklin Richards, there are are
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of shout outs and just a lot of.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Things that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: From his lore, I will say that are given a
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: little bit of time, a little bit of shouts, you know, people,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of themes, and I really enjoyed that. Franklin
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: is definitely one of my favorite characters in general, like
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: as a kid, as he grows up, he's just a
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: great little kid. So I love Franklin and I hope
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: to really get to see him. I don't know if
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: we'll ever get to see him join up with Power Pack,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: the little superhero team of kids that he does join,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: but that'd be really dope. If they ever did a
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Power Pact series and put Franklin in there, I'd be
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: really hud for that.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: They can do a lot with this.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: The implications are vast, as we need to know for
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: anything where the multivers is involved. The implications are vast.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: This film runs for two hours, ten minutes and so, which.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Is actually pretty tight.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Ye are what they did and the level of detail
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: that they were able to fit in here, that's actually
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: pretty good editing.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: I'm coming to shock because I expected it to be
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: like three hours long.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Sods right, And that's that's with the that's the end
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: credit everything. So they did a phenomenal job. It's the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: pacing on point. Just I don't think there's much more
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: I could say. Besides, this is a win. This is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a huge win for MCU. I hope it does very well.
• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:25
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