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Football, Cameos & Beer Chugging with David Bakhtiari · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three
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  Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I
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  Speaker 1: am Chad Milman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.
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  Speaker 1: As always, I am joined by my co host, my companion,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Campadre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: Hello Simon, Hello Chad and busy weekend. How you doing,
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  Speaker 2: brother dude.
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  Speaker 1: We're recovered from the eclipse. We're recovered from WrestleMania. We're
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  Speaker 1: recovered from an epic trip to Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: We're back, addict.
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  Speaker 1: We have a very special NFL guest on today's show.
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  Speaker 3: The NFL Draft is next week. We love the draft.
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  Speaker 1: I like to introduce this next guest using his NFL
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  Speaker 1: Draft profile from April of twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: Are you ready? Quote?
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  Speaker 1: What sticks out most about this player is his explosiveness.
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  Speaker 1: He is an absolute bottle rocket and moves with discipline
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  Speaker 1: and urgency. He possesses a terrific motor, does not get gassed,
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  Speaker 1: and never gives up on plays.
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  Speaker 4: There's more.
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  Speaker 1: This player certainly has the potential important to remember that word,
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  Speaker 1: the potential to play tackle in the NFL. But what
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  Speaker 1: makes him a safe pick is his easy transition to
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  Speaker 1: the guard position, and finally the la Times once said
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  Speaker 1: our guest was the best part of an a cappella
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  Speaker 1: singof scene. The only memorable moment in this movie, of course,
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  Speaker 1: that was the draft profile and movie review for pitch
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  Speaker 1: Perfect two. For today's very special guest, David Baktiari, the
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  Speaker 1: fourth round draft pick who would start, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: over one hundred and thirty games at tackle for the
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, earning Pro Bowl trips, earning all Pro mentions.
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  Speaker 1: David Baktiari and your glorious hair, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Chad. That's that's quite an ego stroke
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  Speaker 4: to me, so it's always nice. I have a proper introduction.
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  Speaker 1: That was a pretty great intro, you know, credit to
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  Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, producer Matt Mitchell, who pulled the draft stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I did my own research on pitch Perfect two and
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  Speaker 1: read the Times review this morning before we came out
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  Speaker 1: on the air, and I was pretty pleased with what
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  Speaker 1: is it what I was able to pick out, and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, uh, we'll get to pitch Perfect two.
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  Speaker 1: I did watch some of the highlights on YouTube last night,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna dig deep on all that and more.
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  Speaker 1: let's start, you know, for the first time in your career,
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  Speaker 1: no longer with the Green Bay Packers. Give us an
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  Speaker 1: update on how you're feeling and what's happening with your
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  Speaker 1: incredible NFL journey.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Packers they broke up with me, you know,
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  Speaker 4: eleven year relationship. It was good, it was fun, bittersweet,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I loved, loved my time in Green Bay.
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  Speaker 4: But the reality of being the player side, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you as a fan, it's like, oh, you'd always love
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  Speaker 4: like your players to stay with the team, and I
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  Speaker 4: would too, but it is a business at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the day, so business decision to be made. Currently
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  Speaker 4: a free agent, currently rehabbing from my surgery this past year,
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  Speaker 4: and kind of just playing the field, feeling it out,
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  Speaker 4: seeing when what teams will call, where that might be,
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  Speaker 4: and kind of keeping all options open. So it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of exciting. I've I've never been a free agent before.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of cool being like the new hot girl
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  Speaker 4: on campus and get all the teams kind of having
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  Speaker 4: their feelers out for you, kind of give an eigh
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  Speaker 4: to you. So it's been kind of cool so far.
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  Speaker 1: I have a theory and I think this goes back years.
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  Speaker 1: The longer your hair as an offensive lineman, the more
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  Speaker 1: of a chance you stand out, the more excited fans
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  Speaker 1: get to follow you to watch you play. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it goes back like remember Kyle Turley and he had
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  Speaker 1: that long flowing Maine and like you see it with
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  Speaker 1: guys when they're running out of the field and they're
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  Speaker 1: taped up as warrior like as it gets and you're
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  Speaker 1: coming out there with long hair. I do think it
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  Speaker 1: has a massive impact popularity of offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 4: Can't say that I modeled my hair game after him.
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  Speaker 4: I was honestly was just trying to grow a mullet
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  Speaker 4: in college, and then when it came down to cut
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  Speaker 4: my hair, I had buyers or more so, I ended
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  Speaker 4: up just keeping with it and then obviously got the
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  Speaker 4: Clay Matthews cut. Once I met Clay back in twenty thirteen,
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  Speaker 4: he showed me how to how to do my hair
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  Speaker 4: properly and not look like an idiot, and then just
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuck. I kind of enjoyed it, kind of
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  Speaker 4: let it down either on some crazy nights with a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of beers, a bunch of beers in me, or
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  Speaker 4: when I'm playing football. That's pretty much the only times
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  Speaker 4: that my hair comes down.
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  Speaker 2: I have a selfish question as an Eagles fan, could
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  Speaker 2: you tell me what the magic is of Jeff Stotlin
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  Speaker 2: on the Eagles offensive line coach? Is there rumors around
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  Speaker 2: the league how this guy is just the offensive line whisper?
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  Speaker 2: What makes him so special that you know Melta came
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  Speaker 2: to him as an Australian rules rugby player and now
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  Speaker 2: is one of the highest paid tackles in football. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's incredible, how incredibly gifted of a coach he is
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  Speaker 2: and how many people know this. He's a Chip Kelly project.
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  Speaker 2: Chip Kelly brought him in when he joined the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: So I would love to know what your viewpoint is
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  Speaker 2: of Jeff as someone that hasn't ever played for him,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously you've heard about him and what he's done
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  Speaker 2: with other players.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually I know Jeff because during the draft
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  Speaker 4: process way back in the day, we did an official
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  Speaker 4: interview at the Combine and then he also came out
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  Speaker 4: to Boulder for my pro day and then he held
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  Speaker 4: a private work out with me, so we had so he.
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  Speaker 2: Just knows talent. Jeff just knows he knew with you obviously.
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  Speaker 4: I mean not enough. But maybe they maybe they felt
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  Speaker 4: good enough with Lane that year because they maybe I
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  Speaker 4: was I was to hedge their bet if they didn't
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  Speaker 4: go Lane, or if Lane didn't fall to them, that
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  Speaker 4: maybe I was gonna be taken. They were gonna not
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  Speaker 4: take any tackle in the first round or second round
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  Speaker 4: and then maybe try and get Because I was supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be like a I probably probably should have been
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  Speaker 4: like a third round pick. I don't, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: my age and everyone, I kind of thought i'd be
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  Speaker 4: second third, but I was like, yeah, probably third. Nothing
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  Speaker 4: sexy about me. I'm not super tall, I'm not super nast.
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  Speaker 4: I remember laying like speaking of the Eagles make you
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  Speaker 4: feel good, like, uh, when we were doing like the
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  Speaker 4: draft day, I remember we got locked in like this. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: we got put in this room together where the all
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  Speaker 4: the doctors can I evaluate you, and then you have
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  Speaker 4: to like or almost like stripped down and get naked.
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  Speaker 4: You're definitely a piece of meat. You're like a piece
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  Speaker 4: of cattle. And I remember like Lane like stood up
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  Speaker 4: and he took his shirt off, and like I saw
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  Speaker 4: like his ribs and he had like a six pack.
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  Speaker 4: As an offensive lineman, and being like six six and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I mean it makes sense why this
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  Speaker 4: guy's Probably I don't have that, but yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: Get getting back to Jeff, I think his ability to
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  Speaker 4: relate and demand yet appreciate with the player, so to
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  Speaker 4: demand a certain energy and excellence of all his players
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  Speaker 4: while also having that ability to connect and relate, so
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  Speaker 4: you know, definitely uh getting the most out of his
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  Speaker 4: players at the end of the day. That's essentially a
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  Speaker 4: quick way of saying it. And he understands football, he
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  Speaker 4: understands proper technique. I mean he's taken raw talent and
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  Speaker 4: you know, carved it and made pretty good players. And
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  Speaker 4: it's not just Jordan. You can look at a couple
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  Speaker 4: other guys at a phone that are their sixth n
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  Speaker 4: man up and they go out there and they are
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  Speaker 4: able to do a good job. And I think that
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  Speaker 4: speaks to his individual drills and what he talks about
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  Speaker 4: in the classroom because his guys get it. His guys
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  Speaker 4: are prepared, and I mean, those guys better appreciate, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the type of coach you because it's not a lot
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  Speaker 4: of great coaches out there. At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: I've been blessed to have amazing coaches on my end.
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  Speaker 4: But I've been around other coaches that I just sit
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  Speaker 4: there and I'm like, yeah, I'm glad I have a
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  Speaker 4: good room with the older veterans because he may know
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  Speaker 4: football like x's and no's, but from technique, he like
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  Speaker 4: has no idea, He's just talking.
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  Speaker 1: What do you remember about the draft process as you
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  Speaker 1: were going through it?
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  Speaker 4: The combine is not sexy. What the TV side, you
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  Speaker 4: guys get all the glitz and glamour. The players side,
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  Speaker 4: I can speak for everyone, it is not a sexy thing.
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  Speaker 4: It essentially a test in and of itself. If you're
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  Speaker 4: doing so many psych evaluation tests where you're doing like
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  Speaker 4: two hundred to four hundred question psych evaluations, like there
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  Speaker 4: might be three or four teams terns and you, so
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  Speaker 4: you have to do their psychic evaluation test and they
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  Speaker 4: don't care how much time they take because you voluntarily
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  Speaker 4: go to this place that they you can do whatever
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  Speaker 4: you want and you have no time, Like I think
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  Speaker 4: there's like a window between like seven in the morning
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  Speaker 4: till like twelve one o'clock at night, Like there was
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  Speaker 4: things that you're doing twelve one am in the morning
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  Speaker 4: then you're up at six thirty in the morning. So
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  Speaker 4: those psych test just wear you out and they're stupid.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, uh, it's like, uh, what's your favorite color?
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  Speaker 4: Do you love your mom and dad? Did you like
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  Speaker 4: going to school? Have you ever thought about shooting someone
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  Speaker 4: in the head? And I'm like, like assuming the reason
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  Speaker 4: why they do is because you have somebody's to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know a couple times person pissed me off. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: they just wear you out doing that. The food sucks.
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  Speaker 2: The Patriots must not have assets to Hernandez, yeah, hey now, or.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they just overlooked it because of the talent.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: That's true. The food sucks. I remember walking this auditorium
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  Speaker 4: where they do like the height and measure. Is this
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  Speaker 4: all the same place you do the bench? You walk
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  Speaker 4: into this like half auditorium, there's a stage, there's like
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  Speaker 4: an MC almost, and they give like your name, your school,
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  Speaker 4: your weight, like you step on the scale and just
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  Speaker 4: your spandex. And you got all these coaches and scouts
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  Speaker 4: and they're all just staring at you, just so you're
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  Speaker 4: not really hiding much they could see or at all
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  Speaker 4: your goods rattle off, how big your hands are, your wingspan,
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  Speaker 4: your height, your weight, and then you walk off the
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  Speaker 4: stage and you go do a body mass index and
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  Speaker 4: then like you rarely have any time to eat and
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  Speaker 4: do all this stuff, so like most of it sucks,
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  Speaker 4: I'll say for the guys, especially if you have a
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  Speaker 4: long hospital visit, because you have to do a full
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  Speaker 4: like backscan or anything. Thankfully I did not have to
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  Speaker 4: do an MRI, but certain guys have to do multiple
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  Speaker 4: memris because certain teams want different types of imaging and
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  Speaker 4: like I said, you're just a piece of cattle. That's
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  Speaker 4: just your number and whatever you want to do. So
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  Speaker 4: I thankfully out of college, I didn't have too much.
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  Speaker 4: It was maybe like a two and a half hours
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  Speaker 4: in the hospital. I had guys there for ten hours.
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  Speaker 4: Their whole day was over there. They missed, they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: do their certain interviews, they had to move them because
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  Speaker 4: of all the different imaging that they had to do.
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  Speaker 4: That part sucked, and then it's okay. Then wake up
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  Speaker 4: the next day, make sure you're properly fueled, you do
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  Speaker 4: your proper warm up, and then go sprint as hard
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  Speaker 4: as you can. That's where you see certain guys that
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  Speaker 4: you hear about them kind of get hurt or pop something.
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  Speaker 4: It's a testing of itself, like how well can you
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  Speaker 4: perform under intense amount of pressure and scrutiny, and like randomness,
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  Speaker 4: because the whole day is very random. There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of weird things. Speaking of about Bill Belichick, I did
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  Speaker 4: have an interview with the Patriots, and so you have
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  Speaker 4: an official interview. You walk into the these little like rooms.
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  Speaker 4: I guess it's like the suites in the hotel. And
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  Speaker 4: usually it's like oline coach, a bunch of coaches in there.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes the head coach would be in there, certain scouts,
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  Speaker 4: and I'd say, at least, let's call it on average,
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  Speaker 4: eight people are in this room. And then usually you're
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  Speaker 4: breaking down film. They're asking me questions. They say, they
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  Speaker 4: will kind of want to understand your football IQ or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick. I really remember walking in and it's just
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  Speaker 4: him and a whiteboard and no film and he's just
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  Speaker 4: going up there and it's telling me about your favorite play.
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  Speaker 4: Draw it up. It is just one on one mono
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  Speaker 4: liu mono. And I thought, you know, for being a
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  Speaker 4: college kid and the immense amount of respect you have,
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  Speaker 4: a guy like Bill Belichick can be very intimidating and
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  Speaker 4: can definitely make you forget a couple of your plays
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  Speaker 4: and formations about how to draw him on a whiteboard.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought that was an interesting strategy, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that was his way of kind of trying to
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  Speaker 4: see his evaluation, which was again, it was the only
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  Speaker 4: thing that was extremely different par to everyone else.
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  Speaker 3: Can you develop a rapport with Bill Belichick?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember I had certain plays that I had
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  Speaker 4: in my head that I didn't want to draw up,
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  Speaker 4: and then he wanted like full formations the wide receivers
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  Speaker 4: and certain concepts, and I'm gonna be honest, I don't
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  Speaker 4: give a shit what the hell they do, like unless
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  Speaker 4: it's like safety rotation. They have eight to nine hole
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  Speaker 4: like rules, which I learned in the league. Like I
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  Speaker 4: did not know coming out of college. I just knew
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  Speaker 4: what the line had to do, and I taught, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I had to be taught like what running backs and
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  Speaker 4: there are certain footwork and stuff. So he was kind
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  Speaker 4: of grilling me on that end and a couple other formations,
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  Speaker 4: and to be honest, I literally after that meeting, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: oh sick. He just taught me like two formations and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So now I'm just gonna lie and act like I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna take his formation with my run play. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: put it together for the next guys I go talk to.
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  Speaker 4: So that's other. That's the part of that that I
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  Speaker 4: still I remember. I thought that was pretty funny. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: he did kind of like me because he's like, I
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  Speaker 4: had another meeting, but I had a break before the
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  Speaker 4: next official meeting. And then he's like, well, I don't
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  Speaker 4: have anyone, so let's keep going. I'm like all right.
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  Speaker 4: And then by the time this guy showed up, that was,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, you're like a piece of meat. So
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  Speaker 4: like someone's like, wait out the door to usher you
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  Speaker 4: somewhere else. It was for the Cardinals. He was like,
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  Speaker 4: what the fuck? Where where were you? Of course Bill
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  Speaker 4: belp oh trying to get an itt'e getting extra fifteen
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  Speaker 4: minutes with a guy. I'm like, look, we want me
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  Speaker 4: to tell him? Oh, sorry, Bill, against the rules. I
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  Speaker 4: don't even know what that I'm even doing here. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't even know what the wide receiver formation was. I
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  Speaker 4: remember the Giants too. They had a guy who stood
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  Speaker 4: like behind this like little like half wall and only
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  Speaker 4: showed his eyes the entire time. I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to freak me out. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And then that old school Coughlin, right, Coughlin just probably
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  Speaker 2: had some guy he's had with him for like thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: He's like just there at those kids.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone was like kind of normal. Asked me a question, Lily,
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  Speaker 4: here's the wall, and his eyes are just like this
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  Speaker 4: staring at you. And you always hear some of these funny,
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  Speaker 4: like funny, weird stories that come out, so I just
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  Speaker 4: remember that one explicitly. And then I remember he's like,
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  Speaker 4: do you own a gun? And I was like yes,
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  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, I see the eyes
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  Speaker 4: that come up and everyone says, like what, and then
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  Speaker 4: they started asking a bunch of questions about guns. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: have one, I've shot one, Like that's it. I just
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  Speaker 4: remember the guy's eyes that he like heared his whole
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  Speaker 4: fix up at that point. The whole experience is so weird,
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  Speaker 4: and I can definitely say like after him, like what
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  Speaker 4: is like, I'm like, it sucks. It's not that fun.
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  Speaker 4: It's a cool experience to say you did it, but
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  Speaker 4: it is not what it's hyped up to be. From
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  Speaker 4: the audience, perspective.
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  Speaker 2: From the fan perspective, I'll say, it's just cool seeing
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  Speaker 2: your peers like when I was your age again, you're
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  Speaker 2: a year younger than me. It's just cool seeing people
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  Speaker 2: your age becoming millionaires. I think that's the hype where
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  Speaker 2: it's like, it's crazy watching a dude who looks like me,
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  Speaker 2: who's my age, who's a freak athlete that I grew
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  Speaker 2: up with, become a millionaire. I think that's definitely the
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: hype where it's like, you know, we all daydream we
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: all have those dreams as kids. We're gonna be that guys,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy. You go from being a high schooler
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: to a millionaire in the NFL in three years if
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: you're like a freak athlete. Even Sam Bradford, like those
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: crazy days, remember what do you get like eighty million?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: It's like crazy to think that was happening.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: That's why I back then, I like, whatever you want, sure,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: go ahead, Yeah right, you're gonna make me a millionaire.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I've never had any You don't have the nil deals, no,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: no nil deals. I had more than like my stipend
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: in my bank accounts. I was like, we're going to
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: pay like ten thirty six a month to make that work.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: So I was like cool, I had like at times
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: like twelve eighteen hundred dollars my bank Acount'm like this
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: is amazing. I'm living high. And then now you're telling
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: me like in the NFL, like you're gonna get like
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: a fat check. I'm like you sure do. Yeah, tell
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: whatever position want we play, great, I'll learn it. Yeah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: just draft me and I'll take it.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: But at one point, you signed a contract to be
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: How do you celebrate that night?
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Well, fortunately it was my third deal, so I kind
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: of already had like the big bump before that felt
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: amazing and it's funny. I remember, like I didn't really
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: do too much, to be honest with you. I just
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: remember when I knew the deal was done. I remember
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: calling my brother. My brother played in the league, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: he was like he was he had a different story
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: than me, Like he got cut thirteen times on seven
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: different teams, practice squad to like a special teamer like
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: bubble guy the entire time. Remember when I saw my
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: second deal, he was like over the moon, elated with
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of emotion, and I just was like, yes, cool,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not trying to be like a dick about it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: I'm like I really appreciate it, Like this is really
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: cool that like all my effort got put towards something.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, there's a lot more. There's a lot
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: more for me to feel like I'm really starting to
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: scratch the surface of what I can become and what
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I can do. So I'm gonna keep going. And I
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: remember for this that deal was the historic one. That's
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: the one I remember calling him and then saying like
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: that second deal that was for you, this one's for me,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: and like we were laughing about it. And then I
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: just remember sitting in my car because I signed like
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: the day before a game, so we had night meetings,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: and I remember just kind of finally having a moment
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: to myself, away from my agent, away from my at
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: the time a girl from a fiance. I can't remember
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: if I proposed her yet, just finally was by myself, and
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I just remember just like laughing and crying borderline hysterically,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: just being like you, son of a bitch, you did it,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: good job. And then I had like my like little
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: two moments to myself. I'm like Okay, cool, all right,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: now let's go back to work. Let's go, let's go
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: earn this thing.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: What do your teammates say to you when that happens.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Like Aaron Rodgers is a lightning rod of controversy, you
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: next to him always made him seem more human, more friendly,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: like a dude that people could get along with. How
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: do teammates react to you when you're walking into the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: building that day? Do you give a guy like Aaron Rodgers,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: who you've been protecting, a gift for helping you get
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to that deal? What's the response from people on your team?
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, usually the go tos is big money, let
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: me hold, let me hold a little piece of that congratulations.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, all of
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: us are excited, like not on these teammates, but like
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: we're all just players in the league at the end
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: of the day, and our whole goal is to perform
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: dual for the team. But there is a business component,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: so all of us want to see money in the
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: player's pockets and not in the organization pockets. So no
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: matter what, I don't think anyone's not happy for a player.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: So a lot of that, And then I mean I
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: guess for Aaron, like, hell, I'm not getting that guy
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: a gift, Like he made me work so goddamn hard
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: for that money. If I had another quarterback, would have
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: been a lot easier to get that from how he
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: plays the position. But I definitely pushed me to show
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: off as much as I could do. No, but a
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: guy like him, you know, he's he's so always calm
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: and cool that I just remember he was just like ingrats.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: You know, he gave me like a little quiet like
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: congrats buddy, like doesn't feel good to be up here
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: with me, and that I think that he didn't say that,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: but that's like kind of like the feeling like I
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: know what you're experiencing and then kind of give me
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: a little hugg and we just kind of man, it's
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: just business as usual.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: My view of Aaron is we all have friends like Aaron, Right,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: We all grew up with a buddy who loves Joe
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Rogan and they love conspiracies and they say crazy stuff.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know, you
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: have a lot of stuff in common with him. Like
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I can tell you guys just weren't football field friends, right,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You guys chilled off the field, like, you know, you
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: know him in a way more personal level than most
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: people know him. What's his outview on this year? Like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: it feels like he's going full killer mode coming to
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: this jets here where it's like he's heard so much doubt.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen him as motivated as he is
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: this year ahead of the season, where it's like he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: just taken all of the doubt and put it into
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I think Aaron performs best with doubt. I think he
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: converts it into energy in a really positive way. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: then if you just kind of follow his career and
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I always have the prefaces I love speaking for him
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: because he hates people speaking for him. So I get
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: mad at me for us being like, you don't know
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: what's going on my head. You know, I'm in control
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: of myself. You don't fucking get it. I digress. You know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: he was doubted in college. He was out in high school,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: dat in college, going to beute, doubted in cal Doubted
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: at the draft night, embarrassed at the draft night. You know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: dad on the Packers with Brett, and then you know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to start proving everyone. So I think
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: he does really well in that scenario, and you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: even when new coach comes in and then they draft
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: you know, first round quarterback first time they did that,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: and then you know he rat a lost back back
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: MVPs like he does very well with that. I think
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: the history speaks for me to make that statement, you know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: going into this, I think he same dynamic. I think
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of doubt age is creeping in. He understands,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: you know, time's on on the side anymore. You know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: he's definitely on the back night in the you know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: last couple holes. So I think for him, he's trying
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: to maximize everything he's got, you know, being on a
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Jets organization that hasn't had a lot of success and
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: having trying to turn over the entire franchise and make
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: it more of a winning culture. But I think I
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: think he does well with more stress and more weight.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think he always should have to do that,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: but he does love the Superman superhero paradox. So long
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: winded way of saying, yeah, I think he's can do
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: pretty well this year.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Can you think of plays? I'm sure you can.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You're in Green Bay and you're playing with him and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you're seeing him do things that you had never seen,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: didn't think a quarterback could do that were outside versus
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: other things you've ever experienced.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell you two quick stories about that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: One is when I first got on the team and
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I was playing tackle. I remember when I finally started
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: like playing with like with the ones in playing with Aaron.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I remember like a guy kind of beat me. I
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: was like, ohit, like I'm running Arond the quarterback of
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: ten yards like a sack and the quarterback wasn't there,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: and I was like, this is amazing. Like college, like
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: if I got that turling corner, like you know, twelve eleven,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: ten yards, like this is sack because they'd have no
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: idea of pocket presence. But having a guy that you
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: know is also really detailed and really good at his job,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I just didn't compute it. Did It didn't really make
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: sense to me. But seeing him operate and then I
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: remember him throwing a making a throw to Jermichael Finley
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: and then him like one hand catching, I was like, dude,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: this is so sick. Everyone's really good. I just never
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I've never been around that. Like I won like thirteen
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: games in my four years at Colorado, so I hadn't
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: really been around much like high end talent, so I
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: was pretty ignorant to the idea of so much good
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: talent around me. So that's one thing being kind of
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: odd and seeing him make amazing throws. Two was I
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: remember having a talk with the GM now Brian Goodagainst
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: and he had said with all the scouts, he always
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: tell them when you go on to practice and in
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: they're in the evaluation of quarterbacks for the day, you
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: can evaluate Aaron like everyone else because he's going to
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: make one throw day that's going to completely ruin your
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: entire scale and grading an idea of uh evaluating quarterbacks.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: And he has to always I remember him saying that
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I have to prefaice that and make it important because
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: every day we go down there, there's always one places
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: he makes that's absolutely insane. Like some of his cool
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: stuff I think he's done might have happened in practice.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Some cool things obviously have made it in the games.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: But if it gives you any indication, he does that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: in practice all the time.
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• 24:26
  Speaker 2: My favorite Rodgers thing which I think Jordan Love is
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: taking apart, which again I love to ask you about.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: But is that bunny hop like one foot flick of
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the wrist. I mean, I can his visual edge right now,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Jordan Nelson corner pocket of the end zone, and it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: feels like Jordan Love has taken that part of his game.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Like if you watch Jordan Love again. I don't know
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the most about quarterbacks, but I know footwork is key.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: He will literally have the most unstable footwork. Jordan Love
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: just like Rodgers would he could throw off his back foot, Like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: did you see similarities in practice between that? I mean,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that's it's definitely something he's taken apart from Rogers, who
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: made his own part of it game where Jordan, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: off balanced throws. He's really improved from college to where
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: he's at and his first year as a starter.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just from what I know of Jordan
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of potential. A growth pick was awesome because
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: he'd be able to sit for three years behind the
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Like, that's the crazy part is he learned, like you
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: got to see the best of the best every day
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: at practice and film. It's it's like, it is crazy
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: how lucky that is.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, and this is respectful, I don't
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: think anyone really saw how good Jordan was in practice.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I think Jordan's more of a gamer. And also it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: kind of polarizingly tough to evaluate a guy like Jordan
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: when he's constantly around Aaron.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: To be honest and this, I'm saying, Jordan is a
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: very good quarterback. He's gonna do a lot of really
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: good things in the league. And I think you're seeing
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: the beginning of his career, starting right now. But when
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: you're always, like I said, it's hard to evaluate quarterbacks
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: when you're around Aaron, and I had been accustomed to
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: seeing what Aaron was doing all the time. It's tough
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: to really see how good he is when you have
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Aaron doing just the most absurd things all the time.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: He really flicks his wrist and go sixty yards and
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: you never really see ducks come out of Aaron's hands.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Where Jordan very good quarterbacks, sometimes you're gonna throw a
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: little more of the ducks, a little more like throws
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: that aren't like in perfect step again extremely efficient. But
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: that's where like the hard trying to like separate, he's
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: still a very good quarterback. There's just a difference, Like
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Aaron is like a just in a different class int
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: and of itself. I think that's why everyone starts talking,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you know, puts up with is he the best? The best? Ever?
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Plays only when won Super Bowl? You know you got
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: guys of one, like how many is Tom won? Six seven?
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I don't even know at this point he does.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Own the hell of Maria though we'll give we have
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: rogers that he is the king of Hell Mary like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I try to explain to my younger cousin. I was like, dude,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: you don't get it, Like you have to go on
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: YouTube and watch Aaron Rodgers. Hell Mary's people throw up
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: a prayer. He is throwing with accuracy sixty seventy yards
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: downfield to a.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Guy, and not to mention that's with more than one
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: broken collar room like his. He is fucking impressive, it is,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: and I'm honored to say I got to play with
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: him now. Again, going back to the comparison, I think
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: the best thing that Aaron did for Jordan was like,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: don't do me, no need to do me. Just be
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: comfortable and play and understand the game, Understand how defenses
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: run there, how they run their coverages, understand the whole
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: operation of the offense. And then he's like, just be comfortable.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: So I think a lot of like the feet the
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: footworks ouf that you're talking about, I really think that's
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: more of just Jordan watching Aaron and just feeling comfortable. Okay,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I can add this, but he never The thing I
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: really appreciate about Jordan never you never saw him try
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: to be like Aaron. It just whatever ended up being
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: natural was great. And I always remember hearing Aaron say
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: certain things like you just whatever's most comfortable for you,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Like that's what you gotta do. You gotta be the best.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: You don't try and be like me. And I do
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: remember seeing a lot of quarterbacks over my time they
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: tried to be like Aaron, Like you could see them
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: actively like trying and practicing, like there's only one Aeron.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: You got to be the best you. And this is
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: where I think is most important. Never try to become
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: someone else. Maybe take the idea, but you have to
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: you have to make it your own. And I think
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: that's what Jordan did really well. Like there's certain things
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Jordan does that's completely opposite of what Aaron does, like
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: timing of the throw and staying within the system. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: think Aaron loved going off schedule. I think Jordan, you know, again,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: he's younger, so maybe he feels more obligated too at
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: this this point in time. But that's one thing I
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: remember when we were playing well before I got surgery
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: last year, that that was one thing that he did
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: really well. He stays within the system, a lot more
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: hits off hitches off his back foot and that ball's
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: coming out and he's just gonna say, all right, screw it,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: this is where the coach that's supposed to be there.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna just pipe it right here and whatever
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: happens happens. Whereas Aaron, that's where the magic happens. It's
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: a double edged sword. You hate it, but you love it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: And that's why you never count him out because you
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: have no eight because he can do everything, so he
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: wants to do anything because he can do everything.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Well, there is something I bet when you're an offensive
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: lineman knowing who you're blocking for and knowing the ability
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: of that player, but also in the confidence you'll have
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: down to the final seconds sustaining that block for the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: extra tenth of the second to allow someone to step
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: up in the pocket because you know what they're capable
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: of doing no matter where you are in the field.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the the game changes, I think, particularly talking offensive
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: line play, certain guys you can definitely play differently. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: don't think you can. How to evaluate offense line is tough.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: It is more you can't look at statistics because they,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to be honest, I think it tells a very small
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: fraction of the actual story. You could take certain offense
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: line and you think are great past protectors, and I
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: would look at it and I can tell you strap
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: the bat. There's probably a small handful of guys i'd
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: actually feel comfortable. I'm like, go play for go play
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: for a guy that holds the ball for longer than
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: two point five seconds, or like a guy like Aaron
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: during not he's definitely gotten quicker with his release. He
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: has a great release, No, but his ability to hold
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: the ball now is not as much as he used
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: to back in his prime. I don't think people will
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: be talking about a certain linemen with the same amount
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: of respect because it's extremely tough. But I was thankful
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: because it made me. It forced me to someone's got
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: to do it and if it's not gonna be using me,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: someone else, and that it forced me to become so
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: freaking good at passpro and like step my game up
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: because if not, he's gonna get smoked or I'm gonna
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: get yelled at everything. You can't blame this guy. It's
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: always gonna be the line like if Aaron ends up
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: moving wrong in the pocket and I get bull rushed,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: but he's like fading over to me, my coach would
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: be like stoppin buller. So far like, does anyone want
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: to tell this guy to have a proper drop back.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: That's why Tom Brady amazing, Alex Smith, Alex Smith and
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady by far some of the best quarterbacks to
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: play for. In his old lineman's dream gonn it's run
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: heavy first play action, they're touching like eight and a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: half nine yards with their back foot, they're stepping up
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: to almost five yards. They're tall enough, like Tom can
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: see over everybody, and he's always dishing the bat and
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: it's like, first two reads are gone, don't go broke
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: taking a profit. I'm gonna check it down. We're gonna
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: live to fight another day. Tom has made so many
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: linemen so rich, and then when they get broke off
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: go somewhere else. You don't really hear much about them
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: because then it's like you gotta like my age old saying,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: is a pass block for dough, run block for show,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I really get exposed. And that's where like, if you
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: have a quarterback that plays a little bit out of
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: the system or does that like you have a tough living.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: So again, it's really hard. I think there's so much
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: more to offensive line play that I think goes unknowsed
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: that I'm spoken in, and I think a lot of people,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: even in a lot of analysts, I don't think Frank,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think they don't think they really know what
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: the fuck they're talking about. Honestly, I'll say some offensive
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: lineman X offense lineman when they talk because I sit here,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I'm like, God, it's a terrible take. God, you are
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: just jones and so hard for this dude, like you
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: just wanted to be your friend so bad and that honestly,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: that shit fucking Like now that I'm I'm closer to
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: being the and done, like I'm gonna start calling these
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: guys out like it is fucking like those guys are
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: so lame. I'm like, save he's good or bad, save's
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: got brickfeet or not. It's put them off because you
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: want him to come on your now new podcast, or
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: you want to be friends with them so you can
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: be an analyst and have your or whatever, Like yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: get out of here, loser, Like that's you. Like that
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: stuff really grinds meet. You got me motivated. You have
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: me motivated talking about this.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Well, Listen, I do love your Twitter feed because it
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: is so unfiltered and literally everything you can talk about
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the turf field versus the grass field. Pretty much any
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: subject that is being discussed, football or otherwise, it is
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a full on blast.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: You should go be an analyst.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Part of me wants to hate to
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: say it might be too easy. I may I maybe
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: want to challenge myself more by going into something I
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: really have no idea and really getting humbled, like I
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: felt like that's how I felt with football.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I'm a sports bet with us. Brother, that's will humble
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: you real quick.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no sports betting, Like I'm gonna be honest, I don't.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: You're not supposed to, so I guess. Yeah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We had Chris long On. He talked about it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: He was like, I know what I was walking in
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: though I don't, and that shit scares me because yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I know of the insider information and I still don't
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: understand the outcomes. So I don't know how these certain
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: lines are so good and like what's prestaurant? But like
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I'm in there learning all week, hearing the game plan,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: no one what's up, and I still don't understand how,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: like like nothing ends up coming to what I see
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: things forthwith, So I'm like, I don't know how people
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: even get a beat on that like that, well you
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: lived it like you were in some Green Bay games
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: where you guys were huge favorites. And obviously, you know
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: football any given sun to anything can happen. But to
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the outside viewer, they're like, I'll never know how Aaron
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Rodgers lost that game and how Green Bay didn't win
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: that game.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Where it's just like, that's sports. That's why we love
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: this thing. Where it's like there's more to it than
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: just one on one. Right, it's football such a team
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: thing where it's the coaching game plan to the players
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: in the field, to the right scheme. Where that's why
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: again me and Chad we bet it. We love it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: You live it like as a player, you know it
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: is where people's like people are like, well, you guys
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: were a big favorite. You're like, no, we weren't like
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: those guys. We're just as good of us. They run
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: a great scheme like they have our numbers. So you know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: from your perspective, that's that's probably one of the toughest
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: parts of it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Right, That's why I'm so scared of it because I
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: know so much about sports, yet it's so and I
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: know how unpredictable. It can be. That's why I'm I'm
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: not putting no money behind any of that because I
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: don't know how you can even it. Just that's a
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: frighten to me. I will say this though, We'll say this,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: when it comes to betting, referees can totally influence a game.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know if a player could, even if he
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: knows whatever lines and this stuff like that could be
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: tough unless you're seeing like sabotaging side point shaving things
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: like that. You know, shout out uh Falco, but uh
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: refs for sure, like you could totally. And it's starting
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: to make me more skeptical. The older I'm getting, the
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: more I'm seeing like some of these stupid calls, and
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: like I understand the impact, like to be honest, having
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: a holding call in the regular season which is completely ambiguous,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: and I hate holdings and I think they're dumb.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: What about the Chiefs and No. Two Super Bowls in
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a row, zero holding calls on their offensive line? Which
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: review of that going against a forty nine Ers defensive
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: line and the Eagles defensive line zero holds.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I know when it comes to playoffs, the rest are
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: always gonna let you play like, oh no, and this
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: is I'll say it, Jean Sterator, my favorite fucking rep
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: up all hockey. Los guys suck it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Jean's the man.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Dean is the man. I remember him literally coming up
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: when we were bitching him out the Cowboy game. We're like,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: we saw these flags, like Aaron and said, he goes,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: why don't you say anything about these other fucking flags.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: He was all pissed off, and Gene comes up, super chill,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: super cool. He goes, look, we already had this call.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: We have the other calls against your guys in the team.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't want the fucking fans. You know already they
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: already hate us. I don't want to hate us off
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: set and Aaron, let's just go play. And then then
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Aaron Sis goes all right, Gene, thanks, but like he's
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: just so just chilling cool and like he's a big
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: like let you play. And that's what I know. Playoffs
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: are like they're gonna let you get away with a
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: lot more. It's like you gotta fucking fight twin. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: think that's why you see DB's grab a hold a
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: little more because I don't and this is my perno belief.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I think dB should hold. Let's not stop babying wide receivers.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: And I think the rules are in place because this
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: is now just my opinion. I think rules are in
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: place because Goodell and the NFL know that more people
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: are going to tune into higher scoring games because that's
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: what's fun. So if we can change, even tweaking just
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the rules a little bit, you're gonna change how the
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: outcome and how the game is played. And that's why
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I think. I just think that's messed up. And that's
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: why I go back to, like in playoffs, like you
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: just gotta let him play. You gotta letdv's hold little more,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: you can let offense line and hold. But I do
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: think that that is a direct like indication. Talking about
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: refs of two Super Bowls with the Chiefs, no holding
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: is like and if you're get like they call holding
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: on Trent. I thought that was a bs Mike. You
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: gotta if you're gonna call that one, you have the
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: hunters and call the one and Donald Smith not the
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: one where he's bear hugging Bosa when he spun. That's legal.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Guys are stupid if the guy's
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: gonna spin and he have the back of his breastplate
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: facing you. You can totally hold on that thing all day.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Holding is once your feet are beat, you can borderline, borderline,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: hug it, dude, as long as your feet aren't beat
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: the guy that that's what he wants to do, going
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: into your body like by all means, because the rulebook is,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: once your hands get outside of the frame of your body,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: you gotta let him go.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: It does seem like this year offensive lineman and tackles
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: on the edge, we're getting further and further off the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and cheating on the snap by a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: quarter of a second just to be able to open
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: up and get to the edge a little bit faster
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: against a defensive end who has such a head start
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: or who just might be faster and stronger than they are.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Did you notice some differences? This felt like a narrative
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: this year in the NFL more than any year before.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because what's his nuts? Is an idiot? Who's the
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: chief's right tackle?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Jowan Taylor, Juan Taylor, there it is.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: He's an idiot. He really fucked it up. He took
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: something that is good and within the rules, and bastards
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: it made it so egregious that now it's like a
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: mic like you there, we're putting a microscope over the issue.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Your boy with the Eagles, Lane Johnson. He's also started
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: to bastards it too.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: They're gonna say Jason Peters, remember Jason Peters back into
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: his leg.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Kick when you saying that you get a little bit
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: further off the ball. But here's my thing. I guess
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I'm a little biased, but it's really hard to see
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: me offsides and if you really slowed down, like I thought,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely the best at getting off on the snack
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: count probably some of the like. And I learned that
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: from Joe Thomas and Joe Staley within the rules, because
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: the rule is the moment the ball begins to move,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: you can move. But these assholes and now overdone it
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: and made it so apparent that it like just takes
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: a good you're ruining good thing. Now they're gonna be
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: worried about you on the ball, which has already been
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: an issue that was kind of quiet within like the
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: the refs had always come like there's so many times
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: you come up and be like, hey, you're getting warned.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Hey get up, like okay, cool, thank you for talking
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: to me, Like, work with me. Ref don't just throw
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: a flag like I'll scoot up for sure, And that's
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: what you do. You respect the rule, that's what it is.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: But like you know, like John Taylor, he's not gonna
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: get called because it's Patrick Mahomes and everyone wants to
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: watch pack and home play. So if you just kind
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: of keep ignoring and keep scooting back and keep getting off,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: really like, they're not gonna call a flag. Everyone knows
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: call flag every game. It's like, I think we know
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: DB's understand the same thing. They aren't call holding every time.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: So like thread the needle, you know, you can get
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: a little in the gray area, but just don't overdo
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: it where then it's like, Okay, now we're gonna put
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: an emphasis on it, and then refs will legitimately ruin games.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: And that's where I look at these guys. I'm like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: you guys ruined such a good thing. We had such
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: a good thing going. It was the best.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I got two more questions for you.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: One, who is the one player pass rusher that gave
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: you the most concerns before a game?
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: It's tough what year because like my rookie year Alan
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Smith was amazing, but I would take my older self
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: and put me in that situation again, let's face them,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: and I think I actually did when he was on
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: the cow somewhere else, and I fear I fared way better.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: But also I don't think he was as good. So
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: that's I've gotten that question a lot. Who's the best
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: pass rush of Ragon against I don't know. I've been
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I've played a lot of unbelievable guys.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Chad wants you to say Khalil Mack.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: No, I'll be on player. Here's the thing, Cli maxophanomen player.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Nothing against him. He's one of the best pure d
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: ms against to get after the quarterback and also get
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: off the U to stop the runner. But I'm gonna
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: be honest, I match up really well against him. And
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: if you go back film, like you know, I put
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: the leash on him and I take him for a
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: walk in past bro and there are a couple of
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: times in the run game where I'm not known from
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: a run blocking, but I'm taking him to the ground.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: He's complaining to the ref because he wants holding, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: that's when that's when you know you're in a guy's head.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: When he's begging the REF to help him out. So though, no,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: no disrespect, I think he's a stud. I've seen him
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: absolutely wreck games and ruined offensive lineman's career. It's just
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: how he plays matches up really good to me. I'm
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: trying to think, like.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to do the bike gets have anyone to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: give you issues. I'm trying to someone in your division
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: ever since uh ever since Griffin.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I hate it going against him, but he
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: also is playing me majority and like my prime and ascension,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: so like I fare pretty well against him, but he
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: was extremely tough. He's up in my top five for sure.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Like I talked off into line and they're like, I
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: hate a playing because he's just gonna he's gonna he's
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: gonna try and break your will for sixty minutes. And
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: he's six foot one six two two seventy five with
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: a gunner and is just on turf in just five
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: steps and then just gonna absolutely smoke your face for
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: sixty minutes. So that sucks. I mean, honestly, Julius Peppers
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: is up there and I got a chance to play
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: with him, but I wish it would have played in
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: his prime, right, you know it's I'm saying I just
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: so I could really see because even.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: If by Jared Allen is prime, did you miss Jared Allen?
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I'm saying I played him, but I don't think I
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: didn't play him in Yeah, I started coming down and
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I like, he gave me some fits, but I fared
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: pretty well against him, so oh man, it's tough. I
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: can't give you a name. That's how good you are, bro. Yeah, exactly,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: disrespectful to to some other guys, like, uh, I can
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: play some guys. I think their SUTs. I think I
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: love both the Bosa brothers. I think they're awesome. I
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: think Miles Garrett is unbelievable. And the last time I played,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: the only time I really played him was his rookiear
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: and it was also one of my best years that
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I ever played. But I do remember I'm like, if
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: this kid can just figure it out, he'll dominate anybody.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Because he was very tough to play, but I had
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: the better day and better him because just timing, like
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: I just understood the game better, but I could tell
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: he was just kind of feeling it out and didn't
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: really get it. But I'm like, once this guy understands
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: himself and how to play. He's going to destroy dudes,
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: and that's what you're seeing today. So tough for me
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: to just, you know, name one guy.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: What last question? Well, I kind of got.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I got two more questions.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: One is you can go over the time I'm with it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: One is.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: One is it's so freaking cold in Green Bay and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the offensive lineman, they always come out they're wearing short sleeves.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: And I know it's got to be miserable.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Like, does anyone in the locker room ever say let's
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: just wear sleeves?
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Like, what are we trying to prove here?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I know you don't want anyone to hold on your
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: sleeves and anything like that, but you can't tell me
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: that you're looking forward to playing in games like that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: I would rather play in negative degree degrees fahrenheit than
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: ninety in humidity in Florida.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: That's a man, right there, Chad.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: That is okay, I I think that is.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: That is like here, here's here's my reason for Affin's line,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: and then I'll get in sleep thing. Yeah, it gets
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: really cold, everyone tightens up, everyone slows down, Linemen. We
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: don't really slow down that much everyone comes down to
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: our level. We don't really drop because we don't really
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: have a high top end speed to begin with, so
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: it's just better. And we're organically and sulated, so we
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: already run a little bit hotter. So I kind of just,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: at least for me, I kind of enjoyed those games.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: They no sleep thing. I don't know, it's more of
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: a mentality. The older ass came in and it was
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: just kind of like a don't be a bitch. When
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I was fucking wearing sleeves, IM all right cool when
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I were in sleeves, Like, it's a mindset. So I
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: didn't and then but I mean you can. You can
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: find ways around it. Like I had elbow sleeves. I
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: did that. I covered up like I don't know, a
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: third of my arms. There's this stuff called like a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: warm skin, which is like a borderline like vasaline that
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: you kind of rub into your arms and it makes
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: you feel I don't know, kind of warmer. It doesn't
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: get make your skin better with the being exposed of
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: cold temperatures. And but I can guarantee you like we had.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: We've had a couple of guys like Elton Jenkins. He's
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: like been begging to wear sleeves, and I think now
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: that I'm definitely gone, he'll definitely will. And these younger
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: guys are coming in. It's all about like the swag
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: and you know, like having like the hand or hand warmer,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: like little pocket thing the quarterbacks have on them now
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: and the shirt's being untucked and so I yeah, they're
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: gonna definitely rock sleeves. It's it was definitely more like
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: my generation, the generation before me. I kind of came
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: in and this is definitely changing because they want to
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: make sure it looks swaggy and cool.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Well, young kids are so freaking soft. It's just sad.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: That's how you know we're old, is because when we
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: start calling them soft. Yeah, exactly, I'm just gonna say it. Netflix.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: I believe that they're going to do an offensive lineman
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: one because they've done quarterbacks. They did like the receivers
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: or yeah, it's coming out right, They're gonna do an
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: offensive line in one, and that's gonna put offense limon
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: on the map, because I think they're gonna finally realize
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: that no disrespect, but most guys are pretty boring and
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: offense linen are honestly fucking hilarious. The amount of characters
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: that you get, it's like, uh, that ugly dude. So
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: we've kind of been told that our whole life, and
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: now we're gone. We're kind of cool around the cool
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: guys and we everyone's kind of got money and we're
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: playing professional sports, but we're still just like kind of
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: like that fatgally like dude. So we're like we all
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: automatically develop way better personalities where we have jokes like
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know why. It's like every ovinse line has
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: a joke. I don't know why, but that's just kind
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: of like in our repertoire, and uh, I can definitely
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: see that airing and then people kind of put an
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: offense line on that, being like, these guys are unfucking
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: believable and hilarious even when we're trying not to be,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Like certain guys are super serious, and even by being
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: super serious, you're super funny. It's just I don't know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: it's just a thing.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Who is your cast?
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I want to see Laramie Tunsel. He's probably pretty like.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I also love his game, love him as a tackle.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be kind of like more of the
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: cooler guy because he's got. He's definitely got some swagger
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: to him and especially how he dresses, and he lives
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: the good life, so that way you get one dynamic
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: of him.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: The most famous, arguably podcaster is an offensive lineman and
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: kel So. It's like, I'm not saying altins line are
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: peeking right now, but yeah, holding someone in sports media
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: twenty years ago that the biggest podcast would be you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Lawan has got a huge podcast, and Kelsey. It's like,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: it's pretty crazy. The funniest dudes on the team are
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: usually the offensive lineman and then the funny ass.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: D Tack was a d lineman because the other guy
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: they're too worried about their image, like wide receivers dbs,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I gotta be cool, so I always gott to look cool,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: whereas like fat chubby Detacker, like I'm fat and chubby.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I got paid a bunch of money to be fat
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: and chubby, so it's gonna have a good old time.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Like if I'm gonna eat this whole kike, I'm gonna
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: eat this whole kick like not even something you're not
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: even trying to be funny, but it's hilarious. Just how
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: like the thought process of it I wish the Packers
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: way back in the day we ever did a hard
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: knocks because one, the amount of crazy, stupid acanine shit
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: that the offensive lineman would do probably would have gotten
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: the Packers in trouble. To be frank, like, we just
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: randomly go in, just get like tape a due up
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: in milli meetings. The amount of times like just like
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: the four jokes, dumb jokes like drawing dicks and like
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: the white do this. Any other athletes you ever have
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: on asked them what the funnest position meeting room is
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: and if they don't know, that means he never left
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: a meeting room, which automatically makes them boring. Or two.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: Many coaches will always say offense line room is the best,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: is the best room always going to. It's always the
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: most fun, It's always most dynamic. We always had guests,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Like anytime we had a guess if you ever came
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: in it was your first time in there, you had
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: to automatically leave. We had a rookie go take you
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: out and said, what's your name? What school did you
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: go to? He'd come back in. We turn off all
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: the lights and then the lights would turn on and
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: he'd have a microphone. He had to have a bottle
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: in his hand, and he'd scream from the top of
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: his lungs like back in w and'd be like and no,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: and he'd say his name in his school. And then
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: we do this whole Da Dad, And we'd have this
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: whole like take up like a good two minutes. And
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: then the person that we just introduced they had to
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: they had to tell us a joke. Then they can
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: and if they came in for a cup of coffee
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: to tell a coach one thing or whatever, like if
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: this could be the head coach, this could be a scout.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: It didn't matter. The rules say the same for anybody.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe the GM could probably get away of it,
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: but even the head coach had to succumb to to
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: our rules. But that's what like the dynamic of our
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: room is, and that's what made it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: So much fun.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I always felt like offensive linemen when I was covering
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the league and on the road.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: They were always the best people to talk to.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: They they knew every play, they knew every formation, they
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: could give every answer, They were closest to the ball.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: They were the smartest guys in the room.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: If you wanted to know anything about what was going
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: on with the team, you talk to the offensive lineman.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I think what I love about it is that most
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: linemen do pretty well post career, because we didn't really
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: like fall in love with the idea of ourselves while
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: we were playing. You know, most guys they come in
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: the league and they're the individual and then they become
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: this new star powered person and then the light shuts
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: off on them and they're like, but what about me?
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: You know, and then they kind of seem kind of
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: clawing whorres line were like, Hey, we came in fat
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: and ugly, whatever, We're going to do this thing, and
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: then a were cool, we're out all right, Like I
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: kind of was kind of I came in humble, I
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: leave humble. That's majority of the linemen. They usually they
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: come and kind of smike they don't. You don't really
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: see very very many big egos, and that's what I
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: appreciate a lot. Like I've had some really cool guys,
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: some really just down to earth individuals that I've had
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: the pleasure of working with over my career. And that's again,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: that's why I really think that I hope moving forward,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: I hope they shed some light on offense line because
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: there are some hilarious individuals. The Eagles, he had the
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: they just paid Dickerson and like, that's what I'm saying, Like,
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: what did he say he want to do? What are
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: you gonna do all your money, I'm gonna buy a lawnmower,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: MO my lawn. And they ends up coming out like, no, ship,
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: that's what I'm gonna do. Like he bought a fucking
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: lawnmower and he mode his line and then.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: You got one hundred messages that I look like him.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: I was like do I?
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: And I looked at I was like, oh my god,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I do look you know a little bit.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: I honestly a little bit.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Biggest thrill, biggest thrill appearing with your teammates and pitch
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: perfect too.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Can you handle this?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Stab? Can you handle this? Clay? Can you handle this?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think they can handle this.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Pitch perfect two mm hmm.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: The attention you got for being able to chug a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: beer as an offensive lineman in Milwaukee, getting the bag
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: as the highest paid offensive lineman in the history of
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the NFL.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: Come on, I'm close.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Pitch perfect too. It's pitch perfect too, right.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: No, those two things are that's the limelight. Those are cool,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: but they're fleeting. Money ain't going anywhere.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Let's by the way, you gotta be smart to make
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: sure the money isn't going for.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: The most part, Like I mean, linemen are usually pretty chill,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Like we buy lawnmowers. When I first made it the league,
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: I got my first signing bonus. So we're gonna talk
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: about being a young kid having money. The first thing
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: I bought was ten pairs of Little Lemon underwear because
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: I had holes in mind and I had never treated
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: myself because I never gave a shit about clothes, and
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I was like, what did you do? I'm like, I
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: bought brand new underwear that were really nice because I've
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: never had nice underwear. I had shit that I had
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I got from my parents from Christmas back in like
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: eighth grade, that I was still rocking all through college
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: and then into the league. Like that's that's just what
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: we are. Like it's funny, it's stupid, but like that's
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: that's the kind of guys, and like there's a majority
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: of them in that said position that I can characterize linemen,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: like a lot of us are like that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: They're good BACTI Aari.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Congrats on all the success, looking forward to what's next
• 52:27
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