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Mastering Career Transitions with Energy & Strategy · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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And how you've tied that in with what you do?
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When I had my breast cancer, it was as I told you, it was a tiny
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one, but I had to do right. I took just a part of the
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breast. I did register to see a simple
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thing. And then a friend of mine said I
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have this energy, doctor, that you should see.
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And I thought, OK, I'm good, what I'm going to see out of
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curiosity. And I loved it and I love the
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way the crystals. He opened my chakras.
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I have never heard of chakras before.
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So he start telling me all the things that I didn't know and
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that I love. And I when I left this role, I
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was floating and one thing that I always understood and I start
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doing meditation, going to meditation places from Brahma
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Kumaris in Brazil. Brahma Kumaris is from India,
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but they have this philosophy that was in Brazil and one thing
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that he taught us was that everything that starts in your
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thought, it goes to your words and transforms into action.
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So if you have a positive thoughts, it goes into your
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positive words that transforms into positive actions.
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So if you have a negative thought, it goes the same way.
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So successful people and I had seen it, they always have be the
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best and dramatic thing. They always see the positive
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side of everything. If you that's the energy
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speaking, you have a positive energy towards the outcome
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that's coming to you and you change it.
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You change the outcome because when you're not so embedded in
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negativity in yourself and people recognize that you are a
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positive person, like you are always smiling, Terry, it's
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amazing. No, it is because you're a very
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positive person and you try to take the best of everybody and
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that is important. So when I'm telling this,
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because when I interview, as soon as a headhunter and I got
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there and the guy was or the girl guys, just a form of saying
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was how it was. That company was a nightmare and
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it happened and this happened and it's so depressing to listen
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to that. And I was thinking, I said, wow,
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first thing that I was to say, you cannot say these things.
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All the positivity that you had from this company, I know the
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last time, because if you were interviewing for a different
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company is because you're not happy where you are.
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But how about the other year, the year before?
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How did you get there? How positive it was?
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And then of course, people change and everything changes
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and you get to a loop that you don't like.
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Then it's time to go. It's time to leave the circle.
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We have a light pole inside companies and you start seeing
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it when everything starts to go wrong.
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Red flag, it's time to go. I don't know.
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Oh yeah, because everything. Starts.
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To go wrong. That's like a wider name.
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Just when you move, this is done.
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This is. That's very interesting.
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And welcome to this week's Genius Zone.
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And boy, oh boy, I know my community is going to love this
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one because there are so many people that are wanting to be
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incredibly powerful leaders, coaches, They are wanting to
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develop their business. Some people are transitioning
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from Korea. Some people are being laid off.
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We are living in a crazy world. And you know what?
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We have a incredibly almost, I would call them
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unarchitecturally engineered for business.
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This is the lovely business coach, Maggie Castro.
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Hello, Maggie, How are you? Hello.
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Hi, Terry. Thank you for having me.
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I'm great. Wow, that is so good.
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And let's start off by finding out whereabouts are you in this
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world and where have you come from?
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Right now I'm in London. I live here with my husband.
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I'm from Brazil, so but. And you've had an exciting life
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and you've really one of the things that I have heard you
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say, which I think front up, I'm going to say this to people and
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that is that there is a big component in business that is
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aligned to your success. And you said it beautifully.
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It's nuts with an A and what is it?
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Is energy. And yeah, tell us why energy is
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so important for the person in their business.
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I always say I haven't been in business for so many years.
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I started in multinationals. I became the president of Kodak
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for a cluster of countries in Latin America.
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Then I became a headhunter and today I'm a business coach.
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Throughout my career, I always saw that energy comes first.
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It probably all of you have seen it.
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When you are in a meeting, you can, if I can see, you can see
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who is stressed, who is insecure, you know who is
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relaxed, you know the meat is going to be fine and who is
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really in a tensing mode. Your energy comes first and for
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you to deliver the right message, it's always good for
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you to be in your relaxed mode because everything flows in the
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way it has to flow. You transmit the message you
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want to transmit. So.
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So I was saying that everything is energy.
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So we are all surrounded by and affected by someone else's
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energy. And I think we have to keep our
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energy in a good state of mind all the time.
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Terry, to answer your question, yes, it is energy.
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How we start this? I tell you the world of
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technology, and it usually means that it's going to be a very
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powerful broadcast. Wow.
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So you've been really involved in everything from being the
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president of Kodak right through to Headhunter.
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And what does that look like? What is a Headhunter for
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example? Headhunter is like I always did
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senior levels, so C-Suite people and I have to see and recommend
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who could be the next president or the next vice president on X
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direct for such and such companies.
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For that, I need to understand the environment of the company,
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who would be suitable for that position.
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For instance, if it is a company that they like to fight among
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themselves, there are a lot of argument and all the time
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finding their space and I can see that because I'm there.
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I'm talking to everybody to understand the profile.
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I cannot put up people. There is only peace and love.
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That's not for them. For people have to go into a
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company that also has this profile instead of just putting
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everybody that I was interviewing in the profile.
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Being a good headhunter means that you have to understand what
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number one is good for your candidate.
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If you don't put the good candidate into that seat, he
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will leave and then it's not a very good job he made redundant
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or he will leave because it's not like the company.
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So number one for me, even though the client hired me, my
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number one priority was always my candidate because I have
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seats that are going to be good for him.
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Otherwise, I don't place him and I say, listen, this is not for
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you. The companies like these are the
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cops or the other way around. If the person the executive was
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got chaotic, he likes to go into chaotic and the company's all
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calm and peaceful. I said you're not going to, you
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know you're going to get there, going to destroy everything.
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The culture, that's not for you. You're going to be frustrated.
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Really, it's not going to be great.
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So you you're fast tracking people and that is very
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energetically aligned. So you're able to see people's
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strengths and yeah, and you can see obviously and identify those
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strengths. And it must be hard for some
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people to hear the hard stuff that you might need to tell
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them. And when if somebody's in the
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wrong role, do you advise them to step out quietly and wait
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till they get something better? Or do you think if they're in a
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toxic space where their lives are literally being impacted,
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what would you tell them to do? So when I was in the head
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hunting business, I took my Fridays all my that's why I
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decided to go there. I wanted to give my money back
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to the universe for being president so already.
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So I decided to do that and I separate my Fridays to talk to
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people that were in the market and needed some coaching for
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whatever. And I spoke to many people
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during my Fridays that were in the situation like my president
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hired me to do this job and two years on the job and I have the
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salesperson that does not do like a marketing person does not
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do anything that I tell him to do.
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My marketing presentations and my marketing recommendations are
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not, are not used by the salesperson.
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And I said, OK, So what have you done in two years, every quarter
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in the presenting something that the guy is not using.
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And so that's why I want to leave.
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I said, I cannot offer you, you have #1 to understand that
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you're not adding value to the company.
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I'm so sorry to tell you this. You're not adding value.
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You have to talk to a president and tell that this guy now is a
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disaster. But after two years, to be very
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honest with you, I was really looking for a new job because
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this is not going to land, Terry.
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I always try to be as honest as possible because I think that's
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being honest, even if the hard feedback is the best you can
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give tough love. They always thanked me for that,
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even though, but it's because they couldn't see this way.
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And this person is specifically, I could not place him in any
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way. And I said #1 you needed to put
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your strength back on you. And I cannot do that putting you
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already in another company because we're depleted of he was
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depleted of his energy. He was really not thinking that
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he could do a good job in another company because this guy
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has totally put him down, the salesperson, the sales director,
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and he wasn't working at all. So I have bad news.
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I have interviewed people that came to me like a CFO and you
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know what? Back and then suddenly they're
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fired. But do you think though, I'm the
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sort of person that I think I know we need money, we need to
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have security. And you talk about how one of
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the biggest energetic blocks that people have is security.
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So sometimes they're in fear of kind of taking that next leap
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and moving into something that's going to be better for them
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because they're feeling insecure and they're in fear.
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And I guess my question is energetically, how do you align?
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Because I've got a close family member right now who's in a
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company. He's not actually doing the
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trade as such. That he studied, he's doing
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supervisory, probably better than myself.
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That you think you're going in One Direction and then next
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thing you know, you're head hunting and then you're becoming
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an energetic business coach and healer.
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So life can take us on so many twists and turns.
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And we're going to talk about your brush with breast cancer
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and how that won't cure a lot in the energetic sense.
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But I just want to come back to for this family member, they're
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wanting to do the right thing by the company.
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They know that their life is, it's really reflecting in their
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family life. They're suffering, they're not
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themselves, they're not feeling good, and yet they won't take
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the step. And the reason why is because
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they're in fear of the security side that they're going to lose.
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What is it that you do with clients that can help them to
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take that leap of faith and perhaps to understand when it's
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time to go and to help develop that security in transition
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phase? When you know that you are not
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aligned with your purpose, you know it.
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Nobody needs to tell you, Terry, that you are on the right or
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wrong. You know that you're not on the
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right company. They're not being valued.
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You have your own feelings and sentiment.
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I never tell clients to quit the job and when they come to me, we
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can do a parallel work. But the parallel work is needed
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because again, as I was telling you before, I needed to write to
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me everything that you have done since you started working, since
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you are an intern and your accomplishments so that you can
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see how good you are. Once you understand how good
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you're ready to start doing another interview.
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So then of course, there's a lot of other techniques that I
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teach. And once I understand and we I
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coach a lot on how to make good interviews, then he can start
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looking for jobs, whatever he wants to look LinkedIn or other
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platforms and then go and start doing interviews.
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Just leave when you have another thing.
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But once we start the process of liberating yourself, this
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company, trying to find another one, you're right, start feeling
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better. It's amazing.
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Now you start, your mood changes.
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Once I had a client that he was 61 and he thought you would
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never find another job. He was made redundant.
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His boss was 40 years old, told him he was too old.
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Poor guy. He came here devastated.
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I said there is not a thing that's too old or too young or
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whatever must be good for your job.
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So tell me exactly why you did see.
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So we start and he did, and he found one or two interviews and
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he got the first time for the first interview that he made
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because then he felt that no good he was.
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When he starts remembering the last guy that said he was old
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said you don't need to be old. There's something in.
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Here. Old age doesn't exist?
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Well, it's you do something. You know, that's lesson #1 your
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age does not define you. And lesson #2 that I just heard
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is building up that confidence in yourself by remembering who
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you are so that you can go forward in these interview
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processes. And then that kind of breeds a
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better energetic kind of element.
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And I'm sure that crossing that, that kind of threshold, it's
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like the breakthrough anyway. And so you obviously feel that
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knowing how to do a good interview is very important for
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people. Or what tips do you give around
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and somebody needs some obviously tips on how to do a
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good interview? You have to make a summary of
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you have to get the attention in the 1st 5 minutes.
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For instance, you say I have worked all my life in
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multinationals and the three pillars of my career.
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Word is in this, you know it when you write everything.
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So then you make your 3 minutes statement or two and say so.
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And because of these three pillars after that I have done,
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I have worked in these companies and I have always a successfully
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growing companies on work on the PNL.
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I have done this and that you make your statement 3 minutes.
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This is the biggest because after that how much time do I
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have to tell us? And then the person, OK, you
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have 20 minutes or 15 minutes or whatever, but then if that the
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first 3 minutes is good enough, you got his attention.
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If he said well I started making as an intern in here that forget
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it, you lost the person. Yes, you have to point dot point
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dot point know what you're going to say before you say it.
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Questions like how long do I have tell the story they want to
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hear. And I think keeping the end in
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mind, isn't it so the outcome of what it is that they're looking
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for and perhaps what they want and bringing that in so that
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that's amazing. So.
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One detail, Terry, just a second.
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Never lie on interview. Never lies.
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If you have to say why do we really have done?
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Because headhunters when I was, you have to double check
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everything that you said. So if you tell me you grow the
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company, whatever I'm going to ask for, I want the reference
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checking. So I'm going to ask your boss.
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You want me, Terry? She told me that she grew 20%
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and Oh no, Terry was a disaster. Terry grew 50%.
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She was being modest. People say it.
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People say it. So don't lie.
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No, because. I will have a very good memory
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to read if you are going to lie and yeah, you wanna own yourself
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and you can. I think a lot of people brush
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over their their gifts and their talents anyway.
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And it doesn't matter what that gift is or how Rachel small it
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is. Really open that up and really
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spend that time being able to expound on it.
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Because if and you've lived it and you've breathed it, then
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you're going to know how to speak it.
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And and that's going to really captivate people really more
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than so much of conversation of a lot of things.
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OK. So let's move now to because
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obviously you've got into the deep infrastructure of business
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to this extent and you're helping people tremendously as a
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business coach. And it's almost like you're best
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kept secret is that you are energetically helping that
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client to align. Because I know that I once heard
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that success in business is actually 20% strategy, 80%
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energy. So yeah, do you want to expound
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on that? And let's talk.
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Let's start off with your brush with breast cancer and how that
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moved you to that next level in energy healing and how you've
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tied that in with what you do. When I had my breast cancer, it
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was as I told you, it was a tiny one, but I had to do right.
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I took just a part of the breast.
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I did register the simple thing and then a friend of mine said I
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have this energy Doctor that you should see.
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And I thought OK, I'm good but I'm going to see out of
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curiosity. And I loved it and I love the
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way the crystals. He opened my chakras.
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I have never heard of chakras before.
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So he start telling me all the things that I didn't know and
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that I love and I when I left his role, I was floating and one
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thing that I always understood and I start doing meditation,
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going to meditation places from Brahma Kumaris in Brazil.
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Brahma Kumaris is from India, but they have this philosophy
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that was in Brazil. And one thing that they taught
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us was that everything that starts in your thought, it goes
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to your words and transforms interaction.
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So if you have a positive thoughts, it goes into your
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positive words that transforms into positive actions.
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So if you have a negative thought, it goes the same way.
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So successful people and I had seen it, they always have be the
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best and dramatic thing. They always see the positive
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side of everything if you, and that's the energy speaking, you
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have a positive energy towards the outcome that's coming to you
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and you change it. You change the outcome because
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when you're not so embedded in negativity in yourself and
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people recognize that you are a positive person, like you are
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always smiling. Terry, it's amazing.
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No, it is because you're a very positive person and you try to
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take the best of everybody and that is important.
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So when I'm telling this, because when I interviewed Seoul
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as a headhunter and I got there and the guy was or the girl
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guys, just a form of saying was how it was.
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That company was a nightmare and it happened and this happened
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and it's so depressing to listen to that.
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And I was thinking, I said, wow, first thing that I was to say,
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you cannot say these things. All the positivity that you had
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from this company. I know the last time, because if
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you are interviewing for a different company is because
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you're not happy where you are. But how about the other year,
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the year before? How did you get there?
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How positive it was? And then of course, people
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change and everything changes and you get to a loop that you
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don't like. Then it's time to go.
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It's time to leave the circle. We have a light inside companies
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and you start seeing it when everything start to go wrong.
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Red flag. It's time to.
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Go. Oh yeah, because everything.
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Starts. To roll, that's like a wider
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name. Just when you move, this is
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done. This is.
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Cool, that's very interesting. So when things are, you've got
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to ask yourself, I think I'm hearing so many people going
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through so many issues at the moment, and in some cases it's
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one thing after another. So you get caught into this,
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almost locked into a snowball effect.
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And it's for the love of God, what is it that you need to
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learn here? What is the universe saying to
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you? And because sometimes it has to
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scream at you. And my philosophy is that's
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sometimes why we hit the wall. So it's oh, OK, good that
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happened. What, what do I need to do?
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What is it that I need to change right here and now?
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And I feel like I would love to hand over to you for a little
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snippet of your mastery and what I call your ingenious as a
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president of business companies, as a headhunter, as a person who
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started off doing psychology and then was very uninspired by the
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feature. I think that's what you said.
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Is that right? Isn't it interesting though?
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We can be inspired or we can be completely put off a career path
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because the wrong person was involved.
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Maybe you can do a little business snapshot with me so
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that I guess the listeners tune will be on TuneIn.
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And I'm just going to say that we have all of Maggie's details
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in the show notes. So make sure that you head over
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to the show notes where you can find this lady because this is
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the real deal. We're talking the real deal here
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of life experience, not someone who's just, oh, I've got this
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strategy and come in. I know when I first came into
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the online coaching space, I spent thousands, 10's and
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thousands of dollars learning strategic resources from
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business coaches that really didn't they?
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All they did is they had this one strategy.
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They didn't really understand the nuts and the bolts.
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And then you might have, what I was looking for is actually
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someone like yourself who can put together both the energetic
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and the business side. So can I hand that over to you?
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And I want you to, this is the fun part.
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Pretend that I've rolled up in your zone and here I am.
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And I need to improve my life in my business.
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And I'm here with you. But I did get a little snippet
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that there was some energetic as well and maybe even some insight
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of where you can be assisted. True, because we didn't mention
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it, but this beautiful lady not only has done crystal healing
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but tarot as well. Over to you.
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My entire career, even by instinct, I always try to see
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the positive side of things, even in the most company and
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everything. So I started in companies that
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were very difficult, like in Bean Bath that now is this big
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multinational of beer. Then I moved to a very nice and
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soft company, which was Gillette before Procter and Gamble is US
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marketing. Then I moved to Coca-Cola,
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became a marketing director, which was great.
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Marketing. If you've become a marketing
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director at Coca-Cola, wow, girl.
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Yeah. I'm in front of the right
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person. Now, it was great.
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It was really fun. I love that.
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But then, as I told you, I saw that I had a ceiling because all
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the presidents for Coca-Cola in Brazil at that time, they were
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Mayo and from US, I'm Brazilian and from Brazil.
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So that's not going to happen. So then I was invited to go to
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Kodak and when I was being interviewed, the boss, the the
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president was a man, but he was Brazilian.
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And I said 50%, who knows? And then what I figure out what
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during my two years marketing director, I did a lot and in
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Kodak for that the team itself to help the team grow and
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putting, you know, strategy is good when they are
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executionable. You cannot just think about
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things. And I try to put all the the
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strategic thinking there were there to the ground always did
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it. So that helped me a lot.
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So two years later, they invited me to do a course at Smith
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College in US. It's like an MBA to become the
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president of a cluster of countries in Latin America.
28:23
That was crazy. That's amazing.
28:26
Can I ask you a question being the marketing, being in in the
28:30
marketing of saying, I know Gillette was a nice soft kind of
28:35
vibe, but then Coca-Cola, they've got a big grant.
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What would you say would be one of the finest, I guess
28:45
resources, tips and tricks for people that are branding
28:49
themselves and are putting themselves out there?
28:52
What do you think that they need to do?
28:55
And right now Coca-Cola, the time that I was going there, you
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hello Coca-Cola. You need to be to have a fast
29:07
track and a fast thinking. It's a very PD company, the
29:13
opposite of Gillette. So let's they think this very
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strategic and they take forever to make the thing work just now.
29:23
So to understand, I could work very well in one and very well
29:28
in the other, but not everybody could work very well with with 1
29:31
and in the other I saw many people.
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Leave. Coca-Cola because lack Daisy
29:38
speedy that they need and you have to rock the boat according
29:42
to the boat. If the boat is fast, you go
29:44
fast. If the boat.
29:47
Then Coca-Cola needed this. This is speediness and that if
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you go to a company in Rome, do like the Romans as as they.
29:56
Say. I'm served, my team is observed.
30:00
If they are fast trackers, be a fast tracker.
30:03
If there are slow ones, answer that's no no.
30:07
Try to impose your flow. That's my main tip and.
30:14
That's very good. That's like rapporting.
30:16
That's the art of rapport. Like we I teach that with neuro
30:20
linguistic programming that if you want to make headway with
30:24
someone and they go a bit flat bit down the dust, come in like
30:28
a play wolf. I'll be going smart.
30:30
Hey, hi, what are you doing? Because that might intimidate
30:33
them. They come down into their level
30:35
a little bit of and vibe wisdom, isn't it?
30:38
So it's there's a lot of energetic alignment there that I
30:43
believe is very powerful. So thank you so much for that.
30:46
That's really interesting to know.
30:48
And when the boat's rocking, just know how to rock with it
30:52
and perhaps a couple of patent interruptions here and there
30:56
never goes astray either. Yep.
30:58
OK. So I guess if I was going to
31:02
come to you and want to improve something, it might be a little
31:05
bit about the fact of where I am.
31:08
Like I'm very, very good in what I do as a coach, but I have a
31:14
lot of the back end stuff that I'm not so good at.
31:19
So tech technology and finer details and elements like that.
31:25
So where can you take me here? When you're not good at
31:30
something, find someone who is, you know and help you because
31:35
when I have, I'm coaching one CEO and she was telling me that,
31:41
wow, I'm not very good at technology and said you don't
31:44
need to be. You are the CEO of the guy, but
31:46
just trust somebody below you that is the good guy on
31:51
technology. Just trust but you.
31:53
Can love that and I think a lot of coaches out there because a
31:58
lot of my own community that listening to this they are
32:02
aspiring coaches here as leaders that are wanting to make way and
32:07
some of them they've just started out so they they quite
32:11
often they'll complain. Oh I don't have enough money.
32:14
So they've got to be the master of everything and really there
32:19
are Jack of all strike trades and then they're a master of
32:22
none where we really need to be a master of 1 isn't it?
32:26
That's what I'm hearing yeah. So how do we go?
32:29
How do we get around the kind of balancing financially, say if
32:37
somebody is moving into their business, they don't have a lot
32:42
of capital, a lot of revenue, and they're just getting on
32:45
their feet? It's usually very complicated
32:49
when you try to finance everything yourself.
32:52
You have to find somebody that's already doing this kind of
32:55
service to someone else that's not going to charge you that
32:59
amount of money. But if you're not good at
33:01
something, don't try to do it because you're not going to be
33:04
good. If you're trying to do something
33:06
that you're not good, the results not going to be good.
33:10
So you have to invest a little bit to have you talk about Joe
33:14
Dispenser. Do you think he's he does all
33:16
that, all the fights? What a lot.
33:18
Of people behind and then the beginning, probably somebody
33:22
helping him to make this voice that makes you go into not a
33:28
little. Trans.
33:30
All the things, but you needed to invest on your business, on
33:34
yourself a little bit for you, but you go there and you don't
33:38
have only one person for you that you know.
33:41
Oh, usually there are people that does the same job for a lot
33:46
of other ones. Try this one because then it's
33:48
going to be cheap, cheap. Don't over invest.
33:53
You don't, we don't. But at the same time, I think
33:58
it's a bit, it's a bit of a disillusioned to think that you
34:02
can come into any business and think that you don't have to
34:06
outlay any money because that's just really not going to happen,
34:09
is it? Whether you are renting premises
34:13
or what you're doing, I do believe you need to put some
34:18
money down so that you can move forward.
34:21
So maybe I'm answering my own questions here, but yeah, is
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there anything you would like to?
34:27
For instance. You have.
34:29
To invest on your website, you have to right?
34:35
You have our page just for that. When you hire somebody that's
34:39
going to be the mountainous of your web page and you can
34:42
combine things and there's so many talented young people there
34:46
that needs money to go through university.
34:48
This new generation, they were born with these gifts.
34:51
We don't need to very high skilled person if you do not
34:55
have the sort of the resource yet, but you can pay for interns
35:00
in university, their joint tech or whatever to help you and
35:04
they're going to be very glad with the money that you have.
35:06
So always what I see, what I'll try to do is see the keys of the
35:11
friends or whoever. Everybody has a friend that has
35:14
a kid that is a kind of attack that doesn't charge that much.
35:18
It's not you're working yet, it's you study.
35:21
I'm sorry that can help. So that's, oh, I love that.
35:28
I absolutely love that because I'm just getting all these
35:33
pennies dropping because I'm going, oh, I'm in Romeo at the
35:36
moment and I'm surrounded by these young people that have
35:40
come out of school that want to go into media and they're, like
35:45
you say, naturally affiliated with technology.
35:49
And I'm going, here's me looking like you're looking a far up to
35:55
get the right help, and they could be right under your notes.
35:59
Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
36:00
No, that's really awesome. That's really good.
36:03
So would you like to showcase anything that you would do with
36:09
a person like me? I was a little bit out of
36:12
alignment on a few things. What I would do with you, number
36:16
one, I have to understand exactly what you're good at.
36:20
You'll have to talk a lot. My thing is understanding.
36:24
I'm going to ask you 1000 questions to understand your
36:27
business. You understand also, I like to
36:31
do one thing that I really like. It's a future board.
36:34
Your future board is how do you think you're going to be in 10
36:39
years from now where you'd like to be?
36:42
And then you're going to put pictures in your love life, in
36:45
your professional life. And it's a board really, and
36:48
you're going to send it to me and let's discuss why you want
36:51
to do that. Could that sets your vision for
36:54
you? 1015 years depend on how long
36:57
you want to do that. When you set for instance, oh, I
37:01
want to in 10 years or 15 years, I want to be, I don't know,
37:05
having a house at the beach, doing nothing in Perth and just
37:09
hanging out there, not doing my job, whatever, or with my
37:14
husband or with some kids or with some friends, be traveling
37:17
all the way. You're going to tell me and then
37:20
you're going to see where did you like to work for, join this,
37:24
and then you construct from there from the future to the
37:27
back. I love doing this exercise.
37:29
Oh, I love that. So you like to get them to
37:34
really see themselves out there in their future and really have
37:40
those pictures in all those areas of their life and then get
37:45
them to really experience it and then reverse engineer them.
37:50
Yeah. Wow.
37:51
Today and see how we can grow the steps to get where you want
37:56
to be and that's amazing how you can because when you put
38:02
perspective on why you want to work so hard, why you want to do
38:05
this what I said actually, I don't need to actually I just.
38:10
Want. To do that or actually a new
38:13
perspective into your life and why you want to do that.
38:16
Why? Why is it it's just because I
38:20
want to have money to travel with my friends to whatever.
38:24
Great. So what could I make you have
38:26
money to travel with your friends to whatever.
38:29
So what kind of job is that is that?
38:34
Can you start work with the friends now, travelling with
38:38
your friends now and then from time 10 years from now, you're
38:42
going to just be travelling whatever, whatever is your
38:46
future destination. What do you want?
38:49
What's the purpose, what we want to make you happy?
38:52
What do you want to do from then?
38:55
We start work with you to here. So that's what I would do.
39:00
With you. I love that.
39:02
And I know that since I was a little girl I've always just
39:05
wanted to be famous Yeah, I and I thought, oh, surely everybody
39:11
else wants that as well, but apparently no.
39:15
So now I'm going to ask the question that I always love to
39:19
ask to conclude the show. And it's about all the things
39:24
that we have spoken about here, from your journey through to
39:30
everything from being president to Headhunter to really being
39:36
able to give some really powerful tips and tricks to
39:40
people to align them with their destiny.
39:44
And then, of course, to risk the grand finale with the the vision
39:48
board, the reverse engineering and really finding your why and
39:53
understanding that when you're putting your why out there and
39:57
you're understanding it so much, then you're living, you can live
40:01
in congruence with that, which is absolutely gold.
40:06
So thank you so much for sharing that.
40:08
And remember to contact Maggie in the show notes.
40:12
Tell me, what would be your number one share for people?
40:19
That you would love them to know, to understand.
40:22
Now it might be you I reiterating something you've
40:25
already said or I just would hate you to jump off this
40:29
broadcast and go, Oh my gosh, I really would have loved to have
40:33
said that. So I always hold the floor for
40:37
that, that last question. Well, the only thing that I
40:42
really ask that I would like everybody to know is that when I
40:46
work with clients, I try to change their mindset for the
40:51
positive or how good they are. And everything starts here.
40:56
And that's what I have to say it again.
40:58
When you have the mindset that you are very good and you can do
41:02
anything that comes to your mouth that you can apply for
41:06
better jobs. That's what I'm doing today.
41:08
If you put your mind to little things, you think you are small,
41:12
you cannot do it. So you're going to apply for a
41:15
little things and little. But when you think big and then
41:19
you're going to say things that are going to make you look big
41:22
and you're going to make you big.
41:25
So never forget that it starts. Everything starts here.
41:29
So think first. What do you want?
41:33
What are your thoughts? What are you communicating to
41:36
the world about you? Because when you say positive
41:39
things are good things are big things about you, that's how the
41:43
universe is going to see you and how everything happened.
41:47
Or a phrasing hour. Don't dispense a friend.
41:49
So you have to, but it starts here.
41:54
So it starts here and it comes out here and then it's massive
42:00
aligned action. Wow.
42:03
Maybe, what can I say? Thank you.
42:05
I've learned so much on this broadcast.
42:07
There's some incredible tips and tricks and bless you for your
42:12
knowledge and everything you're doing.
42:15
And I, I just want to just really give my deepest gratitude
42:21
for everything that you've shared on this show.
42:25
Thank you, Terry. Thank you very much.
42:29
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