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- Top 10 of 2025 Andrea: I’m Andrea. Elizabeth: And I'm Elizabeth. Andrea: Join us as we chat about sci-fi and fantasy books and beyond. Elizabeth: Looking for a little escape from reality? So are we. Andrea: Welcome to Galaxies and Goddesses. Elizabeth: We made it to 2026 and we're officially starting Season Two. We'll recap our favorite books from 2025. Andrea: Specifically, we'll be chatting about our top 10 books and why we liked them, along with a few bookish stats to wrap up the year. Elizabeth: Stay tuned until the end of the episode where we'll be announcing our new theme for season two. Andrea: Let's get started. Andrea: First question I had for you, Elizabeth, is how did you decide which were your top 10 books? Elizabeth: I got nine and then number 10, I've got like five marked that could be number 10. Andrea: Lot of potentials? Yes. Elizabeth: What about you? Andrea: So I made a top 10 at the beginning of December, to see is anything I read in December gonna jump up on the list? Andrea: The book that got my 10th spot was Awry with Dandelions by JS Fields and that's the novelette I've talked about once before on the show that I picked up from Worldcon. It was a really fun, fast, sci-fi adventure dealing with some dream world type stuff. I felt like that was right up my alley and I really enjoyed reading that. Andrea: And now I wanna read more books by JS Fields. Elizabeth: Did you rank the books? Andrea: I did. Elizabeth: Oh, I can’t. I, I don’t know if I can do that. Elizabeth: I didn't think about ranking. I'm just…gonna pick 10. Andrea: Oh okay. Elizabeth: I read so many good books this year that it, this is really hard. I think I'm just gonna bring it up every time. The New York Times Book Review Reader's Choice best 100 of the 21st century. I was leaning into that list this year, and it did not let me down. There were so many good books. I think probably a lot of the books I've talked about before and I remember you were sort of trying to guess what you thought top 10 books are gonna be, and some of which were correct, but not all. And I did not rank them. I can't do that. Andrea: We can take the ranking aspect out of it. Elizabeth: Yeah. Andrea: It’s so hard to compare. Elizabeth: Sometimes you need a bit of time with a book and then maybe your opinion changes of it. Elizabeth: And so, I actually included A Psalm for the Wild-Built by Becky Chambers. Elizabeth: That's one that with time got better, because it does, especially in these terrible dark times that we all seem to be living through. It is just light and happy. Elizabeth: There's so much hope in it. And you know, that dedication page, like you pointed out, for all those out there who just need a break or however she says it, it's like yeah it is. And it's so light and short and it's great, with time that worked its way up the list. Elizabeth: The Dispossessed by Ursula K Le Guin. That one was really good. That was a great book. I liked reading it in this context for the podcast. I got to think about it more and talk about it more. Yeah. Andrea: Both of those books made it on my top 10 list as well, because… Elizabeth: Yeah! Cool. Andrea: They're both very thought provoking. Andrea: When we put together our list of averages for books we've read over the past year for the podcast, the ones that were at the top of the list that had a 4.5 average rating were the ones that were the most thought provoking. Andrea: The ones that dealt with big concepts and ideas, but in a unique or magical or sci-fi world. Elizabeth: Like a lot to chew on. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth: So then, it’s fun to chew on it together. Ohhh! Yeah, so those were on my top 10 list and then most of the others are actually from that New York Times list. Elizabeth: Over time what I've realized that if a book is good and long, and if the scope of the book is epic, whether that's the arc of the story, the amount of time in which it takes place, the depth of the relationships or the world building of a, you know, just a general fiction story too. And so if it's epic and good and long, that I really like it. I never as a kid or a younger reader would've thought that I'd like really long books, but actually I kind of really like really good long books. Andrea: So I hate admitting this and my mom is probably gonna listen to this, but she always brings up the fact that when I was really little and just learning how to read I was so frustrated. She said I, was so upset at one point and I said, “I don't understand why anyone would read for fun!” Andrea: Like, “why does anyone do this?” Then in high school, I started to get into the point where I would just go into my room and read and not talk to anybody. That would be my preferred state. But yeah. Elizabeth: So is that like the person who gets into the really long book, like most drastic case of the person doing this for fun? Is that what you're saying? to dive into a really long book. Andrea: Well, it's nice 'cause then you just don't wanna leave that world, right? You just get to spend more time there and create more memories. Elizabeth: Why I say that though is the Covenant of Water by Abraham Verghese is very long. I mean, it's like 700 something pages. Abraham Verghese is a physician, he's an infectious diseases doctor, and he's originally from India. Elizabeth: He also wrote Cutting for Stone, which is one of my top 10 books of all time. Part of the way he writes is very medically accurate. In Cutting for Stone, it has a lot to do with women giving birth in Ethiopia that like these two brothers and they're both physicians, surgeons, and one of them specializes in like reconstructing the pelvic floor after someone has a long traumatic birth. Yeah, it's just fascinating. Elizabeth: So Covenant of Water, it's this multi-generational family saga, in rural southern India, starting back in like maybe the 1920s. So it's very limited in terms of medical technology that we have these days. So then it's interesting to read parts about things that don't happen to people anymore really, because we have better understanding and better knowledge of things. Elizabeth: It's like, but 'cause he's just a doctor and he's writing this incredibly intricate story, this multi-generational family saga, that's medically accurate is cool. Andrea: I've heard of other people really enjoying that book as well. You're not the first person that I've heard talk about this book and everyone that I've heard read it really liked it. They warn you that it is a very long book. Elizabeth: It's a good long book. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: Yeah. Elizabeth: The longest book, also definitely made it into my top 10, which is Wolves of the Calla by Stephen King, the Dark Tower number five. The copy that I have is one of those, like travel paperback size, you know what I mean? Andrea: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth: It’s always the cheapest, last, version of the book that comes out. Right. It's like always starts in hardback and then you get like the paperback and then you finally get the… Andrea: The mass produced kind of cheaper version. Elizabeth: So it's one of those, and it's 925 pages. Andrea: Wow. Elizabeth: Oh my gosh. The deeper you get into the dark tower series, the better it gets. It opens up this whole Stephen King universe that I didn't even know existed that you start to pick up on, but then the deeper you get the bigger and more connected it gets. Now I'm like, I have to keep reading Stephen King. I gotta keep going. Like Salem's Lot, a lot of Salem's Lot, the main character from that is Father Frank Callahan and he plays a major role in Wolves of the Calla. And so now I'm like, well, I have to go read Salem's Lot now. Andrea: Sometimes the long books can go quickly if it's a subject you enjoy. Another one of my top 10 books in the romantasy category was Quicksilver by Callie Hart. I'm currently reading Brimstone, the sequel, but I'm not loving it as much. Andrea: Because the first book, everything is so new that oftentimes sequels are really hard to like keep up that same momentum. So there are like a couple new characters and some new sort of evil creatures and things that they're going through, but it has all the elements that you enjoy. Andrea: It's just not as new feeling as the first book. Did Quicksilver make it to your top 10, Elizabeth? Elizabeth: NO. No. Well, I feel like I've said it before that I was reading on, Reddit or somewhere that sometimes people fall into either you really like When the Moon Hatched by Sarah A. Parker or you really like Quicksilver by Callie Hart and I definitely fall into the When the Moon Hatched category. I like that better than Quicksilver, but to be clear, neither of those to my top 10. But I do have more books to choose from. Andrea: Well, I liked both. Elizabeth: Oh! Well.. Andrea: So I don't think you have to be one or the other. Elizabeth: The exception that proves the rule. Andrea: Yes, but I also like dragons, so maybe the dragons aspect helped for putting When the Moon Hatched in my top 10, but that was also on my top 10. Elizabeth: Quicksilver and When the Moon Hatched. Andrea: Quicksilver was higher if I had to rate them, but it still made it. Andrea: So we've actually talked about a lot of the books that were on my top 10. If I'm counting 'em off, Quicksilver, [A] Psalm for the Wild-Built, Dispossessed, Awry with Dandelions, When the Moon Hatched, and so that's five. I still have five more to go. Andrea: I also put the Moonday Letters and Water Moon up there, because I did like the imagery in Water Moon. We talked a whole episode about why I loved Moonday Letters, but I liked the mix of mystical and sci-fi ecological concepts and themes. So the Moonday Letters by Emma Itteränta and Water Moon by Samantha Sotto Yambao were also on my, my Top 10. Elizabeth: Wow! So many of the books on your top 10 were books we read. Andrea: A couple of other books were books I read for book clubs that I am in. Andrea: One of them was All the Colors of the Dark. Elizabeth: That's a good book. Andrea: By Chris Whitaker. Elizabeth: I read that this year, but did not make it to the top 10, but it was very good. Andrea: All the Colors of the Dark by Chris Whitaker. It spans the whole lifetime of these two main characters in a way that's really interesting. I liked their growth and their two very different story arcs and how they evolved over time. Andrea: I thought it was really interesting and well done, and there's a mystery component to it as well. Elizabeth: I also did enjoy that book as well, but didn't make it to my top 10. Because that's the book where as I've definitely said it before, my dad is totally right. You gotta read the first 50 pages in the first sitting. If you don't read that many pages, you're not gonna remember what was going on when you tried to go back to it for the second sitting. So I did not do that, and I wish I had, 'cause when I tried to go back to it, I think I started it as I was trying to before falling asleep. And that also a bad idea to start a book that way. So I didn't remember what was going on. So it took me a minute to get into it. Andrea: Yeah, I've heard also that it was a hard one for some people to listen to the audio book because so much happens in those short chapters. So if you're not paying attention, there's a lot that you can miss. There's a lot of these really fine details… Elizabeth: Definitely. Andrea: That are actually very important to the story. Andrea: Yeah. Andrea: That you might miss if you're not reading it or can't, flip back a page to clarify. Elizabeth: When I was reading and had to flip back pages, I had to flip back kind of far. I maybe even had to start it again. That might've been the case. But once again so much happens in like the first however many pages in these short little chapters that like… Andrea: Yeah. Elizabeth: If you don't remember each of the bits, then it's, you kind of are like, what is happening? But once you get into it it is a good book for sure. Andrea: Yeah. And then the other books that were book club picks with other friends was By Any Other Name by Jodi Picoult. And that has two storylines that alternate between historical fiction and present day. It was really good. One of the storylines follows the character, Emilia Bassano and asks the question, what if Shakespeare didn't write his own plays? Andrea: And maybe perhaps this woman Emilia Bassano or someone like her could have written them instead. It was really interesting and it kind of made me change my opinion about Shakespeare, but it was also entertaining and educational and I really enjoyed it. Andrea: I only have one other book on my top 10. Andrea: We'll save my last one until we'll get to, to a few more of yours. Elizabeth: Is your last one your favorite of the year? Andrea: No, ‘Cause we didn't go in order. Yeah. Elizabeth: What was your number one? Andrea: My number one pick of the year, I would've chosen The Moonday Letters by Emmi Itäranta because it was so unexpected. Andrea: I didn't expect to like it as much as I did. And I don't think every person will enjoy reading it, but it was my personal favorite. Elizabeth: It's your favorite book. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: It’s no one else's favorite book. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: Yeah. Elizabeth: So I think Wellness by Nathan Hill. Once again as we were saying our top rated books were very thought provoking and a lot to chew on. Oh my gosh, there is just so much to chew on with that book. It was suggested to me by my sister, and she was like, you have to read it right now. I need to talk to you about it. then as I'm reading it, realizing what she means when it's like, I need to talk to somebody about this right now. Elizabeth: I have heard that the wellness industry is worth four times as much as the pharmaceutical industry. Elizabeth: Which is wild because the pharmaceutical industry, is worth a lot of money. And so multiply that by four and that's what the wellness industry is worth. I think there's a lot that you know, it's like capitalism preying upon people who were just sort of trying to live their best lives and yeah. There's just a lot to chew on and it not necessarily for everybody. My mom didn't really like it as much, even though we still had an interesting conversation. Elizabeth: I also chose Bel Canto by Ann Patchett. As a musician, it's fun to read a book that speaks to how much of a universal language music is and some of the characters in the story do not speak the same language at all. Andrea: Oh. Elizabeth: But they are incredible musicians and they connect through that. Andrea: Cool. Elizabeth: A couple of love stories actually through… Andrea: Music? Elizabeth: Music. They don't speak each other's language. It's also just a really wild story. Andrea: That sounds really touching. I like that concept. I Partly because the title is a little abstract, I had no idea what it was about. Like I could tell that it's a musical reference. “Bel Canto” sounds like a musical reference, but otherwise I would've no idea. Andrea: My assumption is it's the sound of the bells, like Song of the Bells? Elizabeth: Beautiful Singing. Andrea: Okay. Elizabeth: It's both a vocal technique and an opera style from the 18th to 19th centuries. Emphasizing smooth lyrical melodies, vocal agility, breath control, and beautiful tone. Elizabeth: Because one of the characters is an opera singer, actually. And that's one of the love stories that she connects with someone else. But it's also action packed. I mean, it's a page turner. It's this wild story. but yeah, it's not very long. Pretty easy to read. Elizabeth: Oh, you totally predicted it. The Say Nothing: A True story of Murder in Northern Ireland by Patrick Radden Keefe. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: I mean, I don't know if is gonna be everyone's favorite book 'cause it's nonfiction, but the vast preponderance of what I read is fiction. I do read a fair amount of nonfiction and there are nonfiction books that I've read that were not great, but there are many nonfiction books when they read like fiction and then you just know that it's a true story. Andrea: It gets you. Elizabeth: Yeah. This is nonfiction that reads like fiction. having lived in Ireland, and been to Belfast a couple times I can kind of picture it. Andrea: You can connect with those places a little more. Elizabeth: Yeah, the ongoing struggle for Irish autonomy and identity resonates with me, since I've lived there. It was a really good book. Elizabeth: James by Percival Everett is the story of the slave character in Huckleberry Finn, Jim. It's told from his point of view. I've read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn maybe twice, I wanna say maybe in school and then maybe like 15 years ago I maybe read it again. And so I don't necessarily remember the story that well, but it's also a story that you know pretty well, just you've read the book or not, you've maybe seen a movie or it's just sort of in sort of the cultural zeitgeist and so there are parts of the story where it makes me kinda wanna go back and reread The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, but also not 'cause James is so much better. Elizabeth: It's so good. It's like maybe 300 pages. There's a lot of white space. It reads very quickly and it just packs such a punch. Elizabeth: Wanting to read books by authors of color and reading these stories that, as time goes on and authors of color can then kind of like take back their own stories, to then read the stories that they write, and so it's fantastic to take this old story and reframe it from the perspective of the slave character. There are lots of books like that even if it's a really good book and you enjoy the book, they're just, there's just so much trauma and terrible things you're reading, as you read these stories. And the thing about James is that it ends happy. To read this retelling of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn from the character of Jim, James, and the way it ends is just like I am just giving myself goosebumps actually just thinking about it. and I think the last couple lines of that book might be lines that will stick with me forever. It's dialogue. The dialogue is… Andrea: You don't have to give it away. Elizabeth: It's not giving away. Andrea: Okay. Elizabeth: It’s not giving anything away. The last couple lines are like it's James the other person says, “James, what?” And he responds, “Just James.” And that's how it ends. Elizabeth: The autonomy of that, right?! He's known as Jim, but he really goes by James. His name is James. And to take back that story, God, it's so good. It's a really good book. Elizabeth: I’ve not read anything else by Percival Everett, but it's like, oh, why she keep reading. Elizabeth: Let's see, another one this one called Squeeze Me by Carl Hiaasen. Andrea: Okay. Elizabeth: And it's really funny, Andrea: That sounds like a provocative title. Elizabeth: Yeah. It's this thriller story of these old women who are part of the fan club at Casa Bellicosa. And one of them then suddenly disappears and it's 'cause she was eaten by a Burmese python. Elizabeth: I've heard about this a long time ago, that the pets, like the snake, Burmese python, that people have them, keep them as pets, but in Florida some have released their pythons into the wild. Elizabeth: Like they couldn't take care of 'em anymore. They don't want 'em anymore. They get really, really big and they can't keep 'em anymore. So they just release 'em outta the wild. And Burmese pythons are actually legitimately an invasive species in Florida, like in the Everglades. And I remember reading a Smithsonian Magazine article about it. Elizabeth: One of the experts basically said that given enough time, the pythons will take all of the biomass of the Everglades and turn them into python because nothing kills them and they just eat everything. And they are so well camouflaged and so easily invasive in that environment that they actually hold hunting competitions where people will go out and try to hunt the pythons and you get paid a certain amount for every one you bring back. But they're incredibly difficult to find. Even the people who study them, they'll put, whatever sort of tracking device on them and then you could easily be within 10 to 15 feet of the snake and you cannot see it. They can be like 15, 20 feet long, can actually take down probably the small deer and stuff that live in the Everglades. Elizabeth: So then this 90 pound elderly woman she's eaten python. It's all just like the PR around this woman that was murdered. My sister just read it before me and we were traveling together. So there's time to be like, oh my gosh you have to read this. She'd already read it, you know? It's almost like the whole book from beginning to end, just these little snippets of funny everywhere. Elizabeth: It's very funny. Andrea: Okay. Elizabeth: And then the last one I actually just finished and maybe that's partly why it's like so high on the list But this was another nonfiction called In the Heart of the Sea, the Tragedy of the Whale Ship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick. So I enjoy Freakonomics and I remember a few months ago Stephen Dubner did a three part episode on the history of the whaling industry. I did not know anything about. Was a huge part of the American history. Elizabeth: The island of Nantucket used to be the world's capital of the whaling industry. And it was like 1819, 1820, the ship called the Essex was in the Pacific hunting sperm whale and one of the whales attacked their ship. Sank the ship. And these 20 men escaped on the smaller boats that were on the main boat. And were at sea for 94 days and cannibalized each other. So out of the 20, only eight survived. Ironically they didn't want to go to some of the South Pacific islands 'cause they were worried about cannibals. And so they landed on one random island and three of the men decided to stay behind, so there are three that survived. And then the rest continued on for another 60 days or however long, maybe that was the 94 days. Out of those, only five of them made it back; rescued by ships off the coast of South America, like 3000 miles later or something. It's the story that in its day was as well known as the Titanic and inspired Herman Melville to write Moby Dick. So now I really wanna read Moby Dick 'cause it was fascinating. Like page turner, like wild ride. Andrea: So would you say that even knowing those statistics it was still the page turner as it unfolds, how that all happened? Elizabeth: Yes. Elizabeth: Oh my gosh. Yeah, because then getting attacked by a whale that destroys your boat and its sea for 94 days and then they eat each other. I mean, yeah, that already is kind of a page turner. Elizabeth: So it's just like fascinating about wailing the history of whaling and sperm whales. But then also this incredible tale that in its day for a long time, was as well known as the story of the Titanic and no one really knows about it as much anymore. Also, they turned it into a movie. Andrea: Oh really? Elizabeth: About ten years ago with Chris Hemsworth and Cillian Murphy. I wanna watch it now and I wanna read Moby Dick. Andrea: This isn't necessarily in top 10 order, but my last read of the top 10 I read this past year was Blood Over Bright Haven by ML Wang. It takes place in an alternate world where magic can be written on something very similar to a computer slash typewriter, but it's called a spellograph. They can write spells on this typewriter like device that has a screen, very computer-esque, but it's not called a computer and it does have more magical properties. Andrea: So that was an interesting concept I hadn't read about in a book before. It actually has a picture of the spellograph on the cover, but I didn't know before reading it that that's what it was. And it follows a female main character that is a little bit annoying at times, but that's kind of why you like the book because she's not perfect. Andrea: She's driven by her own passion to do magic and be the best in her field that's sort of her flaw. That she's too good at what she does, and assumes she is the best at everything. That was an interesting world and character arc. Andrea: And it made it to my top 10. And it's a standalone novel, which is kind of nice. It's nice that you get a whole story. You don't have to read a whole series or saga. Although I do look forward to reading some series in the future. Elizabeth: Yeah, I think of those other five, The Dispossessed was one of them, and I've already said that was my top 10. So there we go. I think I've actually already talked about 10. Andrea: Oh really? Andrea: I feel like you had some classics that I've heard of being on top 10 lists. Very well known ones. Elizabeth: Oh, this year. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Andrea: And now I wanna read Bel Canto. Elizabeth: It's short too. It’s nice. Andrea: The best audio book I read of the year should get an honorable mention, I think. And that was, you didn't hear this from me. it's actually nonfiction. I don't read that much nonfiction. You Didn't Hear This From Me: Mostly True Notes on Gossip by Kelsey McKinney. she hosts a podcast. So the audio book was narrated by her and has a podcast feel to it. It was really engaging. Andrea: I think that's one where the audio book is better than the physical copy because of the narrator and because she's a podcaster. It was well done. Andrea: And entertaining. I think another big thing about how I rate my books is I look at it as, did the author accomplish their goal? And I think she made an entertaining and educational book about gossip and how it has a role in society and how it's evolved over time. And I thought it was just really interesting. Elizabeth: Yeah Elizabeth: I have read 68 books this year and I'm anticipating… I'm gonna hit 70 for sure. I might get to 71. We'll see. I've read like six or seven nonfiction books out of 60. Soon to be 68? Elizabeth: Two of them made it to the list 'cause they were that good. maybe that's also a thing I like long books. If they're good and they're long, then I really love them. And if it's nonfiction, but written like fiction, I think I have a higher chance of really liking it. Andrea: I think I'm gonna make it to 34 books this year. I don't think I'm gonna make it to 36. Andrea: I'm happy with that. I think it's fun to set goals, but I don't wanna make myself or anybody else feel bad about not meeting those goals. It's something to strive to, but not to punish yourself for. Elizabeth: Definitely, because we're reading for pleasure. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: So keep it pleasurable. Andrea: All right, the last part of the episode, we gotta mention our new theme for 2026. Elizabeth: Trilogies! Elizabeth: I thought it was more like epic trilogies! Andrea: Oh, we should be in a booming voice epic trilogy. Elizabeth: Epic trilogies! Andrea: There we go. Elizabeth: Well to start with, we're diving into the Lord of the Rings here, folks by JRR Tolkien. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: So starting with The Hobbit, but no, I was gonna say with the voice it makes me think of Benedict Cumberbatch. Elizabeth: I heard his voice once described, or the way that he does the voice of smog described as like resonating within the body of a cello. My voice does not resonate like on the inside of a cello, but maybe a viola. Andrea: It was a worthy effort. Yes. Good job. It’s a little debate on whether or not it's a true trilogy, but if we're reading The Hobbit with it, but I think it's just fun to read The Hobbit. That's just for fun. Elizabeth: It is for fun. Andrea, I'm gonna be making this very clear. The Hobbit is a different story. Andrea: Okay. Andrea: That's true. It is a different story. You do not need to read The Hobbit to read the rest of the trilogy. It's just more of a nostalgia starting point, I think, for the season. And yeah, it's the one book I have read by J. R. R. Tolkien so I'd like to go back and revisit that before diving into the trilogy. Andrea: So we're gonna read The Hobbit and then we're gonna read Lord of the Rings as our first world that we're venturing to in 2026. Elizabeth: In our world of epic trilogies. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: We did not necessarily intend to do it this way, but that's just the way it works out. This year marks the 25th anniversary of the completed movie adaptation of the Lord of the Rings movies. Andrea: Yes. Elizabeth: I just picked it up from the library this evening and it's a really cool version. It's got illustrations by Tolkien himself. Andrea: Oh. Interesting. Elizabeth: These types of illustrations. Yeah. And it's definitely looks like a, you know, a special edition, with designs along the sides of the pages. I mean, it's only 272 pages or something. It's not very long. Andrea: Yeah. Elizabeth: But the size of the book itself is quite sizable. Andrea: I'll have to go find my copy. My copy of The Hobbit I bought at an airport before getting on a flight. I was like, “Hey, I'll read this. I haven't read it in a while.” I picked it up years ago, intending to read it before I read the trilogy, and that was maybe 10 years ago. Andrea: But I did reread it. Andrea: I'm really excited to dive into the Lord of the Rings trilogy over the next couple of months on our podcast. Elizabeth: Unfortunately, that concludes this week's episode. We've reached the end of another cosmic journey on Galaxies and Goddesses. Andrea: Don't worry, the adventure never really ends. There are always more stories to explore, and let's be honest, more bookish tangents for us to go on. Elizabeth: But hey, that's part of the fun. you loved today's episode, make sure to subscribe. Leave a review and share the magic. Andrea: Stay tuned for our next episode where we'll be venturing into Middle-earth with JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit. Elizabeth: Keep your mind fueled by the magic of stories. Andrea: And never stop chasing the worlds waiting between the pages. Thanks everyone!