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Turnbuckles & Stogies -It’s a Wyndham Reserve Sunday · Military Broadcast Radio | MBR Talk

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  4 Johns came up with us. Go ahead, finish talking.
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  And today is Sunday, fun day, and today we're going to.
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  We're going to start with some housekeeping first.
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  We're going to, yes. Can I finish?
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  We're going to start with some housekeeping.
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  So I will fill you in as the CEO and Co founder of Turnbuckles
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  and Stogies Pod. Dennis the OG had to step away.
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  He told us the other day he was supposed to come on.
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  I knew he wasn't coming back on after he stepped away, so he
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  will no longer be with us. And no hard feelings.
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  No. Hard feelings.
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  He's still one of my best friends.
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  It's just things happen that he couldn't do it and.
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  If you see him, he might be doing some on Instagram, TikTok,
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  he might be selling you a cigar, who knows I don't care, doesn't
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  matter to me. So anyway, that's our cleaning.
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  So now let's get to our cigars. Well, I had some other stuff.
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  I wasn't ready for that there. It go and that's no, that's the
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  ghost. No, we, we also want to extend
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  our deepest condolences and sincerest apologies to you know,
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  and, and sorry for their loss to the AW family.
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  The butcher. The butcher passed away the
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  blade. I like to extend our condolences
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  to the whole family. To the whole family.
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  To their cousins, their aunts. To the AEW.
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  Family, AEW family, whoever knew the Butcher, my condolences to
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  you guys. And listen, it's tough.
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  I've been there when somebody got taken to the hospital, I got
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  taken to the hospital after the show.
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  It's not fun. It's crazy because you're
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  wrestling. Next thing you know, you got
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  tubes in you and Ivs. You don't know where they're
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  coming from. So God bless him.
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  God bless his wife, his kids, his grandma, whoever he has, God
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  bless them all. Shout out to AW, Tony Connor, if
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  you want to come on, Tony, or you want to put somebody on,
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  we'll game with that. I'll send you a message.
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  But anyways, back to the Sunday funday.
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  This week starts football. Football starts this week.
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  Go Giants. I took my shirt off because it's
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  hot. But the Giants are going to the
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  Super Bowl. I'm telling you that here today,
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  September 6th. I'm telling you today, the
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  Giants are going to the Super Bowl.
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  Jackson Dart Skaboodle did making it happen.
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  That's all I'm saying now. Go ahead, talk about our cigars.
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  Today I want to address our cigars.
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  Our cigars are ready. If you want some cigars, DM
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  Joey, DM me dmturnbucklesandstogiespodsendusanemailturnbucklesandstogiespod.comsendusanemail@gmail.com.
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  Send us an e-mail. We'll tell you where to send the
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  money. Once we get your money, we'll
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  send out your cigars. But until then, have a great day
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  and we're going to get to go ahead.
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  Keep talking. Guest of the week.
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  So our guest of the week today, we met him, I think it was
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  Wednesday or Thursday, it was downpouring, was standing out
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  there, smoking, getting wet, getting sick.
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  But he's a good dude. He's from the BX and I don't
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  know where his partner's from, but I'm sure he's partners from
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  Brooklyn or Queens or Long Island or Staten Island,
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  somewhere like that. So our special guest of the week
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  today is Wyndham. Reserve cigars?
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  What the hell? Here we go.
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  The interview of the week is brought to you by Jersey Mike.
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  'S a sub above. What is up?
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  Talking for everybody. What is up gents?
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  What's? Going on, what's going on?
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  How are you doing? And yeah, you nailed it.
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  I'm from Queens. Yep.
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  Let's see, can we get a bigger screen?
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  I knew it. We can they.
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  Got to move. No, no, they're fine.
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  They're fine. I'm fixing it.
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  I got a mechanic here who works on computers.
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  There we go. There we go.
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  Look at them handsome devils over there.
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  What's going on, gentlemen? Good morning.
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  What's up? What's up?
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  What's cracking you? Tell me what's going on.
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  You know, same old shit I'm from.
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  I'm from Rocklin, I'm from Haverstraw, NY.
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  Not, not the BXI. Don't want anybody to think I'm
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  jocking the BX I fucking BX I'm not from the BX I'm from have a
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  show in the world. See, that's the question, that
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  he's not saying he's from Rocklin County.
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  I smoked the. Camera shout out to Rocklin
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  County. So we met you.
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  I think it was Wednesday or Thursday this week, I think it
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  was. Tuesday.
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  Standing out in the rain, it could have been whatever day.
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  This week Tuesday, I tell you, Think about it.
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  We hung out in the rain for a little while so I'm I got one
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  cigar left after this so I am smoking.
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  The bottom was red. Habano.
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  That's the Habano. You're smoking the Habano.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  So tell us what you guys did or are doing before you got into
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  the cigar business. Before we got into the cigar
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  business. Yes, Why?
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  Don't you go first? My background's construction, so
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  I've been in excavation masonry business for 25 years and
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  basically I'm from a construction background.
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  I'm not from a like a tobacconist background per SE.
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  So I'm a blue collar dude, come from the blue collar world,
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  enjoy stogies. And you know, thought to myself
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  one day I think we can make a better stick than some, you
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  know, some of these people. I told my brother, I said, what
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  do you think? He's actually the one who put me
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  onto cigars. If I told you guys how long I've
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  been smoking, you wouldn't believe me if I told you a year
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  I've only been smoking cigars a year I've been smoking.
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  Don't get me wrong, I've been smoking cigarettes for 30 years,
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  but cigars, unlike full full-fledged cigars, I've only
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  been smoking like a year. But in that year I found my
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  palate and I and I found in that in that time that I, I between
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  myself and my partner, we can come up with a blend that's
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  better than some of these blends that were were smoking.
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  And that's exactly what we did. So what was your very, what is
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  what was your first go to cigar and what do you smoke besides
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  your own cigars? So the first cigar I ever smoked
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  that put me on the cigar smoke and you're going to laugh was
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  the Drew States Isla del Sol. Marshmallows.
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  Very sweet tip. Kind of stick it would it would.
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  It kind of broke me in into the into this world because it was
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  flavored, right? So I'm coming off of smoking
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  cigarettes. I'm not, I have no, I have no
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  idea about nuances of of tobacco.
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  I have no idea of notes. I have no idea of flavored
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  profiles, any of that stuff. All I knew was that this smoke
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  could taste. It tasted good, right?
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  So he was like, that's a good smoke, but you need to try a
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  real cigar. So I was a guy.
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  So I started smoking non flavored tobacco and then I
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  smoke, I don't know, 4050 different brands of cigars And
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  finally was like, OK, I'm starting to get notes.
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  So once I started getting some notes, I I would refer back to
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  him like yo, this thing, you know, this stick has this note
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  or that note and he's like, Yep, that's what it has.
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  So I'm like oh shit, I found my palette.
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  Yeah. So once I found my palette that
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  ain't got really oh now then then the rabbit hole just went
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  deeper and deeper and deeper it went.
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  So that's what pushed me to make, you know, push us to make
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  the stick that we have today, you know, like I'm smoking the
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  Maduro right now. I'm smoking the the Cameroon,
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  the yellow bit, the yellow bit. That's what that's what he's
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  smoking. I'm smoking the Maduro.
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  I still got that one left. Let's get on.
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  And the Connecticut? What is your partner's name by
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  the? Way this is Rob.
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  So my name is Rob. I'm my background actually
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  started out late 80s, early 90s. I was in the audio, you know,
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  music business, did really well in the music business, came out
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  with a Grammy nomination, you know, really cool.
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  A lot of artists I work for after 911 moved up to PA up
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  here, got into corrections, retired from corrections.
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  Now I do IT support, you know, for pharmaceutical companies run
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  service desks for that. But overall in smoking about,
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  let's see, my oldest daughter's 25 S about 26 years.
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  That's why I have no hair because I have nothing but
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  daughters. But you know, been been running,
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  been running cigars for like 2526 years.
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  I know share my pain, right? Yeah.
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  Yeah, but you know every. Day with the old.
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  Lady. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  But that's, you know, that's that's pretty much about me.
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  I just kind of just lay in the cut and just make sure all the
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  technology works here, that's all.
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  Because, you know, he knows a guy.
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  He knows a guy. Let's get into Windrum cigars.
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  How did you come up with the name Wyndham Reserve and why
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  does that have a special meaning to?
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  You all right, so I'm going to keep it 100 with you.
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  So the name Wyndham Reserve Cigars was derived from me
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  sitting in front of in my driveway looking at the street
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  sign in front of my house. So Wyndham Reserve is based off
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  a street sign. That cigar that you're smoking,
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  Joey? That's called the Wyndham
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  Reserve. Yep.
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  OK. I live on Wyndham Drive.
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  This is called the Ladder back Maduro.
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  Yep, Ladder Back is a street across the street from my house.
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  And mine is the. That's the Devonshire, that's
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  the Habano that's around. The corner.
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  That's behind my house. That's a cul-de-sac.
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  So basically what you did. You took local surroundings?
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  Yep. Made them to a cigar.
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  There's nothing wrong with that. I actually like that idea.
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  Now. Now what you can do to advertise
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  it is go stand on each of those streets and smoke that cigar and
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  pose with the street sign. I can literally walk to each
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  each each St. bro yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Take a cigar. Go to 1.
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  Street and start smoking your cigar and then light the next
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  one and go to the next street and take a picture with it and
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  then boom. Yeah, like some people be like,
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  oh, you have this this big deep meaning behind your name.
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  It's not. It's just the the street signs,
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  bro. I keep it 100 street signs.
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  You live in the Poconos. Them streets ain't that big.
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  Nope, I can. Walk from one store to the next
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  door in a matter 2 seconds. You know what I mean?
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  But what are we going to ask you though?
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  I, I mean, they're, they're covering so, so how did you, how
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  did you come up with each blend? Because I know you said when I
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  spoke to you that you had revised a couple of your blends
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  as well to give it. We get those to give it more of
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  the bite. We smoked them.
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  I'm joking that Colorado was the first one I smoked out of your
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  line. That Colorado was killer.
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  I smoked them a that was that. Had a nice bite throughout the
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  whole cigar. That was a lot that we changed.
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  Different nuances and yeah, and flavors that I didn't pick up in
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  the first one. But when I smoke it again, I'll
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  be a couple more times. I'll be able to pick up more of
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  those notes. But there was.
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  There's a lot of transitions as well in your cigars, which I
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  like too. It doesn't stay one note
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  throughout the whole thing. It takes you on a journey.
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  That's, that's what I like when I, when I'm smoking something
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  new, I'm looking for the transitions, I'm looking for the
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  flavour notes, the burn, like stuff like that, where I've
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  smoked stuff that's just monotone note throughout the
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  whole thing. And it's like it's not giving me
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  a a bite or anything like that. And it, it kind of makes me not
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  want to smoke that cigar again. So now so.
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  How? How do you feel getting those
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  transitions out of a robusto? I love it.
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  I love when when I can get a, a robusto and get the transitions
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  and you can kind of see when, when it transitions from the 1st
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  3rd to the 2nd, 3rd to the last third.
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  Because when that happens, you're smoking almost, to me, an
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  entirely different cigar each time.
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  So let's get back to you and Rob.
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  How long have you guys been friends?
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  Or did you meet him in the Poconos?
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  Or have you been friends since childhood?
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  How does that work? So we, we met because we're
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  brothers. We're not, we're not Blood
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  Brothers. We're fraternal brothers.
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  We're in the same fraternity. So this is my brother.
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  So we've been brothers for four years.
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  Yeah. Shout out to the Masons.
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  I love the Masons. I did my step one.
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  I got to finish my other two steps.
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  It'll be a little while, but I'll get there.
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  All day long, yeah. Correct, my brother has that
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  same ring. I got to get a phone.
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  My dead brother. So.
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  So we met four years ago. He put me on the smoking cigars.
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  I, I felt that we could make a better stick, you know, and you
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  know that saying I, I got a guy. So I got a guy.
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  So I'm, I should I, you know, I reached out to my people.
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  So obviously when I told you I grew up, I grew up in
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  Haverstraw, NY, half of the population.
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  Haverstraw NY's from Tamburin, Dominican Republic.
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  Tamburin is the cigar capital of the world for those.
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  Who don't know? For those who don't know.
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  So I said I grew up with a lot of these guys.
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  You know what I'm saying? Let me reach out, see who's
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  doing what, what's doing who. So I reached out and lo and
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  behold, some of these big players, some of even with
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  legacy brands, I'm not going to drop names, but I know, I know
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  people like everybody knows people.
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  So no, I'm talking, I'm talking better.
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  I'm talking strictly Dr. Strictly Dr. No Nicaragua, no
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  Cuba. We are strictly Dominican based
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  tobacco company and we're willing to stand on our ten with
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  anybody from any country. And your cigars are not like a.
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  Typical Dominican cigar either. No you can't.
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  Anybody who tells you they have a a Dominican poodle is full of
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  shit. The only person who has
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  Dominican Poodle is Fuente so. This is where I want to get.
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  Well, and the Dominican, to me, when you smoke a lot of
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  Dominican cigars, you get that that earthy, that grittiness,
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  those like those hay notes and it just, it deters you from
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  trying to smoke that cigar. So this is where I want to get
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  to. So talking about Dominican
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  Republic, you expressed to us, or you told us, we didn't ask,
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  you have told us that you bought into a cigar factory, that you
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  are now a owner of a factory, Am I correct?
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  Yeah. We're, we're now part of a
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  factory where we're we're part of that same factory.
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  So there's only four people that come out of this factory and
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  it's a Co-op. So our factory is is just us.
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  So there's no one else that can come into the factory at all?
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  So your factory is just you, the other person's factory is just
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  that, and somebody else is just their.
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  Factory. There's 4 lines coming out of
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  the same factory, 4 different blends.
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  Nothing is the same. You can take a a Maduro from
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  each one of our lines and not one of them will be the same and
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  they come out of the same exact factory with the same exact
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  people rolling them. Well, and that's, that's a
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  credit to you guys and to the other brands that you're able to
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  come out of the same factory and not produce an identical cigar.
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  So let me ask 100. Percent we we tip our hats off
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  too. So and listen, we're we're going
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  to we're shout out our brothers and sisters Johnny Ortiz cigars,
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  big up to my brother Johnny. Shout out to Gomez Lopez cigars,
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  my people V sesto. Those are the people that are
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  coming out of this, this this factory.
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  You know what I'm saying? This is a family where we're a
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  tight knit family. No one else is coming in.
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  No one else is getting our blend right.
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  It's something that's personal. Like we talked to the people, we
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  talked to the guy who who packs the cigars, I talked to the lady
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  who puts the bands on the cigars.
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  It's not like it's mass produced.
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  There's no person. There's no there's a personal
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  connection there, you know what I'm saying?
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  So if I said to you, I want Eric Espinoza in your factory,
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  where'd you put them in there? No.
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  Why? Because it's my factory, not
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  Eric Espinoza's. Eric Espinoza built his name.
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  I'm building my own. And I'm not trying to say that
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  to me to be cocky or anything. But if I don't care who came up
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  to me, if if the don't come up to me or General Cigar came up
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  to us today and said that we want to buy you right now for
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  1,000,000 bucks. I tell him no thank you because
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  we're trying to build something that's going to change the the,
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  the demographic of tobacco. It's not about money.
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  For for us, it's not about money.
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  Like, you know, the the man, my partner just said he, he got
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  nominated for a Grammy. So not to blow smoke or, or, you
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  know, just to, to puff chest. But guys have been to a certain
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  level of life right now. It's now it's about making a
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  movement. Passion for you, correct?
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  Absolutely. If you can't talk about your
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  brand and the little hairs on your arm don't stand up, your
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  brand ain't worth it. Right, right.
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  And I understand that because in the wrestling business, and Joey
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  will tell you because Joey's been to shows when I was
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  wrestling when I was a kid. I work shows and.
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  You work shows with me. Listen, when I'm in the locker
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  room and you come to me and say, hey, listen, da, da, da.
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  And I say, OK, So what did you learn?
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  Well, I, I started my own thing and I want to start a school.
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  I said, you're not qualified. You can't start a school.
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  Why is that? Because who's going to learn
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  from you? You've only been in the business
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  two years. I had a school.
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  I had a school in the city of Yonkers.
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  I had Eddie Kingston come out of there.
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  My nephew came out of there, Jigsaw came out of there.
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  So I know what it's like to get something going like you guys
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  are, and my heart is there. So if me and Joey came to you
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  and said, hey, we want you to make our cigars, send us some
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  some blends, how do you go about doing?
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  That easy. You sit down with me, we sit
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  down and we do a flavour profile on your stick and you tell me
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  what notes you want. But you can't come up to me and
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  be like, oh, I want you to make me an opus for real.
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  I want you to make me an Opus Lost City.
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  I want, I want you to make me a Espinoza warhead.
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  And I will tell you no for a simple fact that I don't make
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  Espinoza warheads. I don't make opuses.
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  I make my blends. They make Wyndham Reserve.
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  I don't make Gomez Lopez, I don't make Ortiz and they're my
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  brothers. They make their own.
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  So if you're coming in looking for a white label and this is
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  not for you, but this is just for the community.
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  If you're coming in looking for a white label, saying I just
• 22:04
  make your blend and put my band on it.
• 22:06
  We ain't the guys that you don't want to talk to us.
• 22:08
  No. And and see, you know, and and I
• 22:11
  and I'm not saying that's what you guys are doing.
• 22:12
  I'm just saying that for a blanket statement and it's true
• 22:14
  like what you're saying about white labels because I've, I've
• 22:17
  had this conversation. And people said to me, well, if
• 22:20
  you guys put your own cigars out, you're going to be white
• 22:22
  labeling them. I said, we might.
• 22:24
  I said, but there's a difference.
• 22:26
  I'm not just going to white label them to white label them.
• 22:28
  I want to test them first with whatever blend that they have,
• 22:32
  who I'm working with. And I want to make sure I like
• 22:35
  it. Like our cigars that we're
• 22:37
  putting out. We went with the guy in Florida.
• 22:39
  He, I said, listen, here's what we like.
• 22:41
  Send us 5 different, you know, different sizes, different
• 22:43
  wrappers. I want to try what else you
• 22:45
  have. And he did.
• 22:47
  He sent us different sizes, different wrappers.
• 22:49
  They're his blends. But he knew what we were looking
• 22:52
  for. So he sent us what you know,
• 22:54
  what profile we might like in each one.
• 22:57
  And we decided on a blend, but we smoked them before.
• 22:59
  We just said give us that one. You have to you.
• 23:02
  Know and I, I told people, I said I don't knock white
• 23:04
  labelling. I said, because everybody starts
• 23:06
  some sometimes that way. And it's not a bad way to start,
• 23:10
  but you can't just be going in and slapping your name on
• 23:13
  anything because you may not have even tested that cigar.
• 23:16
  And that's like me coming to your factory and I go, oh, I
• 23:18
  want that cigar. I slapped my label on it without
• 23:21
  testing it and and it's a bullshit cigar.
• 23:24
  Well, let's get back. There, you know, and then and
• 23:26
  then you get to the point of like, now you've put that
• 23:28
  bullshit cigar out into the universe.
• 23:30
  And then back from nothing, if you kind of take that approach,
• 23:33
  that tells me you don't have the love of the leaf that I, that I
• 23:36
  have, right? You're, you're just doing it
• 23:38
  just to do it. You know, I'm, I'm not doing it
• 23:40
  just to do it. This and that, and that's why we
• 23:42
  said the same thing is, you know, the reason we're testing
• 23:44
  it, even if we're white labeling, is because we want to
• 23:46
  put our name on something that we like.
• 23:48
  Right. Whether it's a behind it.
• 23:50
  That the factory has made or not.
• 23:53
  We want to make sure that blend fits what we're looking for
• 23:56
  before the consumer touches it. And if it don't fit, then we're
• 24:00
  going to say, hey, you know what, this size didn't work, but
• 24:02
  let's go back to the drawing board and try this size.
• 24:04
  So right. Everybody's going to be amazed
• 24:08
  because we're putting out a cigar that now one company puts
• 24:15
  it out as a sample. As a as a first release, they
• 24:18
  usually do it down the line. We're doing ours as the first
• 24:22
  release from Turnbuckles and Stogie's Pot.
• 24:25
  Well, I guess we might as well just.
• 24:28
  So. Let the cat out of the bag.
• 24:29
  At some point it's. It's going to be.
• 24:33
  So we decided to do a flying pig size Maduro for our first
• 24:39
  release. I'm.
• 24:39
  Going to show you what I got. That's the size we decided.
• 24:42
  He sent us a bunch of different blends.
• 24:45
  It's a black, but it's going to look something like that without
• 24:48
  a pigtail. OK.
• 24:51
  We went with a size like that because it's different.
• 24:55
  Listen, you're talking to the Kings and different bro.
• 24:57
  We got 5 lines, 1 vitola and that's all we do.
• 25:00
  You guys went 5 lines, 1 vitola. You did different the same way
• 25:03
  we decided, you know what, let's put a cigar out, but let's use
• 25:06
  either an underutilized size and underutilized rapper, something
• 25:10
  that somebody doesn't always use.
• 25:12
  And again, you guys probably smoke so many different sizes,
• 25:16
  so many different samples. When you decided on this that we
• 25:20
  said we only had five samples that we got, but we had
• 25:23
  robustos. We had 7 by 40 twos, we had
• 25:26
  toros and then we had that 5 by or 4 by 54 or 52, whatever it
• 25:32
  was. And we smoked that.
• 25:34
  And that was like, to us, that was, that was it.
• 25:36
  Like that's what, that's the what we wanted.
• 25:39
  The same way you guys went and smoked and said, OK, these
• 25:41
  robustos are what we're looking at, you know, and, and for
• 25:46
  people who don't know, tell them why you guys went with the
• 25:48
  robustos. So the reboost though?
• 25:51
  That was his idea. The 5 by 52 is the most smoked
• 25:56
  vitola in the world, right? So they don't smoke more than
• 26:01
  any. The most size that smoked is a 5
• 26:03
  by 52 for the simple fact that you can smoke that stick in 1/2
• 26:07
  hour or you could stretch it to an hour.
• 26:09
  Yeah. Right.
• 26:10
  Right. So it's not a pizza, it's not a
• 26:11
  petite Corona, it's not a flying pig, it's not a Toro, it's not a
• 26:16
  Churchill, it's the most smoked vitola in the world.
• 26:20
  So anybody can enjoy a 5 by 52. Now, the problem with the 5 by
• 26:25
  52 is if your blend can't compete with the size that you
• 26:32
  have to deal with to put in those transitions into the size
• 26:35
  of this stick, that's where you, a lot of companies are are
• 26:38
  scared to go with the Robusta. They have a robusto, it's better
• 26:41
  for some reason, right? Or the Churchill's amazing, but
• 26:44
  the robusto's not as good. You really have to nail your
• 26:48
  blend to put out a all robusto line.
• 26:51
  So we went through 17 different blends to get them right.
• 26:55
  But we smoked over 280 cigars to get the notes we wanted.
• 26:59
  So it was definitely not, it wasn't easy just to say, oh, you
• 27:03
  know, I like this and just just make that.
• 27:05
  Nah, you had, like you said, you got to taste it.
• 27:07
  You got to, you got to, you got to stand behind it because your
• 27:09
  name is on it. I have no problem putting this
• 27:12
  stick in front of anybody in this world and saying let's,
• 27:15
  let's have at it. Gloves off.
• 27:18
  You tell me. I tell you, I'll be honest.
• 27:20
  You'll be honest. Who's better?
• 27:23
  You know what I mean? Commercial bait to pay our
• 27:26
  bills. We'll be right back.
• 27:28
  We'll bring them cigars. What is up?
• 31:55
  What is? Up.
• 31:56
  Happy Sunday, Happy fun day. We got three days left until we
• 32:02
  finish. Our podcast is today, but we got
• 32:06
  three days left until the NFL starts.
• 32:09
  Shout out to the New York Giants, Shout out to Scatterboo.
• 32:12
  Shout out to OBJ. Shout out to coach, shout out to
• 32:16
  everybody playing for the Giants.
• 32:18
  I want back row seats and I'm going to get them.
• 32:20
  And I said back row, not front row, back row.
• 32:24
  So Rob, here's my question for you.
• 32:29
  Yes, Sir. So.
• 32:32
  You said you were. Nominated for a Grammy?
• 32:36
  Yes. And our show?
• 32:37
  I told those there our show has no.
• 32:40
  We have no. Strip.
• 32:44
  Have you ever? Worked with DMX, the locks, Mary
• 32:50
  J Blige sweet T or anybody like that Sweet T.
• 32:57
  Mary J Blige No, the Grammy nomination that I was nominated
• 32:59
  for, which for the ones and Janet Jackson.
• 33:03
  What's it going to be? So I I was a recording engineer
• 33:06
  for a while. I've worked with I did Busta
• 33:09
  Rhymes. I did the getting jiggy with it
• 33:12
  with Will Smith. I did that album.
• 33:14
  If you look at the Extinction level event album for Busta
• 33:17
  Rhymes that the two albums prior the album after Flipmode Squad
• 33:21
  did all the recording engineering for that stuff, did
• 33:24
  it in Hit Factory and soundtracks in New York.
• 33:27
  Well, you do. Realize that you know DMX.
• 33:35
  And my son don't. Disagree with me was one of the
• 33:38
  greatest rappers alive and he's never wrote anything down.
• 33:43
  Always. From his head when he was in
• 33:46
  jail. And I know DMX first.
• 33:50
  I know who he was, I know his. I haven't met his wife.
• 33:53
  I would love to be his first wife but.
• 33:59
  I want to congratulate. You on that because we've never
• 34:02
  had. Nobody on our.
• 34:03
  Show that won a Grammy. Well, to be clear, I.
• 34:07
  Didn't win. We actually that year we lost to
• 34:10
  Eminem. That was his first year that
• 34:11
  came out. That was the first M&M came out
• 34:13
  back in, I mean. That's that's kind of, that's
• 34:16
  kind of understandable though. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 34:19
  I mean, I'm not, I'm not complaining.
• 34:21
  Career has taken me a lot of places.
• 34:23
  You know, I'm, I'm blessed to, to even be sitting here talking
• 34:27
  with you guys. So yeah, do.
• 34:29
  You do anything now with the music business that you were in?
• 34:34
  I don't. It was a great career.
• 34:40
  Put a lot of stress on the marriage that I had at the time,
• 34:42
  and my choice was to then turn and focus on my daughters and
• 34:46
  focus on the marriage. See.
• 34:48
  That's see marriage didn't last. Though, so I'll I'll be be
• 34:52
  upfront with that. Marriage didn't last but I but.
• 34:55
  I came away with two very strong daughters, one of which actually
• 34:59
  yesterday graduated from the Coast Guard.
• 35:02
  Congratulations, Sir. Yep, so.
• 35:04
  There again. It comes with, like with me,
• 35:08
  with wrestling. I started my wrestling.
• 35:11
  Business I was called up by WWE to go wrestling with them I
• 35:15
  turned it down because Joe was being born somebody said you got
• 35:19
  to reach out to this person so I know mark Kallis the undertaker
• 35:24
  I reached out to him I reached out to our key sheet I'm like yo
• 35:27
  bro listen I know you mother fuckers on the road 325 days a
• 35:31
  year he. Goes yeah, the other 20. 5 I'm
• 35:36
  home doing laundry, doing autograph signs.
• 35:38
  Take care of your family. So my thing is, family is always
• 35:44
  number one with us, yes. If you have.
• 35:48
  To leave because your daughter got ballet practice or tiptoe
• 35:52
  practice or whatever. Tell me you got to go.
• 35:55
  That's all I ask. Yeah, you.
• 35:57
  Know what I'm saying? And a lot of family is always
• 35:59
  first. A lot.
• 36:00
  Of people don't realize that we don't have a script.
• 36:04
  Our script is our cigars and our our host.
• 36:08
  Our. Guest that's.
• 36:09
  Our that's our script. We told it is.
• 36:12
  I got no listen, I'm holding my tongue right now.
• 36:16
  It's bleeding, but I'm be a nice guy tonight.
• 36:21
  Maybe I might not. I might so.
• 36:29
  What else do you want to ask? So why don't we go?
• 36:32
  Into what we're, what we're smoking, what they're smoking
• 36:35
  and kind of talk about those blends, correct?
• 36:40
  So he has. The like we said earlier, he's
• 36:42
  got the Habano, I have the Cameroon, which is what you're
• 36:48
  smoking Robin and who's and you're smoking the Maduro Jose
• 36:51
  blended, correct blended these cigars.
• 36:54
  That's what we want blended. OK, so.
• 36:57
  Our blends, we'll get into the blends.
• 36:59
  That was one of something I wanted to get into with you
• 37:01
  guys, so the people who are blending our cigars.
• 37:06
  Are not the run of the. Mill people that's why these
• 37:09
  blends are that good and I'm going to be honest with you so
• 37:12
  the guy who's behind the blends of these cigars his his name is
• 37:16
  Juan Gomez Lopez he he has two lines El Hojito and Gomez Louis
• 37:22
  cigars. He also blends than our and us
• 37:26
  as well. We also have Kiko Lopez.
• 37:28
  Kiko Lopez was master blender for Davidoff for 28 years.
• 37:34
  So the guys who are blending. Our cigars, no cigars, you know
• 37:37
  what I mean? Like you, we going, we talk when
• 37:40
  we tell Kiko, we tell Juan what I'm looking for, he'll give me 6
• 37:44
  different versions of that right?
• 37:46
  And say now pick out of these versions something you like out
• 37:49
  of each version and then I'm going to make a master version.
• 37:54
  So you go through. Four or five different blends to
• 37:56
  pick out notes from each different blend.
• 37:59
  And I give him back my feedback and Rob's feedback.
• 38:01
  This is what we like on this blend.
• 38:03
  We don't like this vice versa going down the line.
• 38:07
  Then he comes back and goes, all right, now try this.
• 38:10
  And then you're like, well, this has everything that we wanted
• 38:13
  from every other blend. He's a genius and he just looks.
• 38:16
  He goes. I know now now.
• 38:20
  How did? You do that and you know, it's
• 38:22
  like asking a doctor. The doctor's never going to tell
• 38:24
  you his method. He's just going to give you
• 38:26
  results right now when you guys. Blended them.
• 38:29
  Did you smoke the full cigar? Did you smoke the like a charude
• 38:34
  or like a parajito? What did you guys smoke when you
• 38:37
  all right, so I'm going to put you.
• 38:38
  Guys on how did you after? You were done trying to smoke
• 38:41
  them all. I'm sure you had to sniff some
• 38:43
  pepper, no? Where's the bag?
• 38:47
  Right there behind. We're not dealing anything All
• 38:51
  right, So this. Is our.
• 38:52
  This is our trick. So this is what you.
• 38:53
  Do so first of all, when you're testing cigars, if you're just
• 38:57
  testing the blend and because you already know what wrapper
• 38:59
  you're putting on it, you're testing them without wrappers.
• 39:02
  They're called peritos. That was.
• 39:04
  It so so you're testing. Binder and filler only, right?
• 39:09
  So, and that's he. I we have some video him smoking
• 39:11
  straight up binder and filler off the off the bunch it was I
• 39:14
  wanted. To take it and actually make a
• 39:16
  rub out of it and put it on some ribs, throw it in the smoker.
• 39:20
  So when you're, when you're. When you're testing blends, you
• 39:23
  probably. Could though, yeah, some Queens
• 39:25
  right you. Some Queens right so when
• 39:28
  you're. Testing blends.
• 39:29
  You're smoking these burritos, so you're smoking the majority
• 39:32
  filler and binder. So when you're smoking that many
• 39:35
  filler and behind the cigars, your tongue's going to get jaded
• 39:38
  and your palate's going to get, you know, kind of filmy.
• 39:40
  I don't care how good your cigar is, after that many cigars, your
• 39:43
  palate's going to be overwhelmed.
• 39:47
  So you get these right? Here from the dollar store.
• 39:49
  And shout out to DNH. Humidors.
• 39:51
  Who put me on to these guys talking?
• 39:52
  About those we were shout out to DNH.
• 39:55
  To put me on to these, these things are exactly what you want
• 39:59
  to clean your palate. Lemon, lemon, ginger.
• 40:01
  Chews. Yeah, they're better.
• 40:02
  Than than water you literally just chew it.
• 40:05
  You don't even have to eat it. Just chew on it.
• 40:06
  I eat them. Get the, get the that.
• 40:08
  That taste, that taste, just spit it out and like your next
• 40:11
  stick. It's like having a fresh palate
• 40:12
  right between that I'm going to have.
• 40:14
  To get those and try that Dollar Tree, Dollar Tree and.
• 40:18
  A dark chocolate you should be good so as far.
• 40:21
  As the blends, the blends, like I said, per line, because that's
• 40:30
  not 17 total, that's 17 per line.
• 40:34
  We've, you know, we. Got to the point where like, yo,
• 40:36
  we have so many different varieties.
• 40:38
  I think this really, we really nailed it with this one.
• 40:40
  So the Habano, the Habano, we came off with a smoother Habano
• 40:45
  than most for the simple fact that most habanos are super
• 40:48
  spicy off, off jump. You're going to light that stick
• 40:51
  up and it's going to be like pow, pow, pow.
• 40:53
  So we kind of toned that down a little bit.
• 40:56
  So we turned. That down a little bit, you're
• 40:57
  going to get that spice, you're just going to get it in the
• 41:00
  second and then the third, third, that first, that first
• 41:04
  third is going to be more floral, more leathery, more
• 41:06
  earthy. So I'm going to, you know, with
• 41:08
  the problem with the Habano is most people who smoke Cabanos
• 41:12
  are just coming off smoking a Connecticut.
• 41:14
  So now they're stepping up their spice level to be able to smoke
• 41:17
  a Cameroon, to be able to smoke a Maduro or Colorado.
• 41:22
  So for them, that Habano is like, that's been that's an
• 41:24
  intermediate level that that Connecticut's your, your, your
• 41:27
  beginner level, right. So what we try to do is not try
• 41:31
  to knock him out so fast with the Habano.
• 41:33
  We're still going to give him that smack because that's what
• 41:35
  you're going to get. But we're just going to try to
• 41:38
  ease it into you. Not all off jump street, just
• 41:40
  smack in the face. I'm still going to smack in the
• 41:42
  face, but I'm going to let you get prepared first.
• 41:44
  Yes, I said. I'm gonna let you.
• 41:46
  Get I'm gonna let you get prepared.
• 41:48
  First, you know what I'm saying? You're saying you're?
• 41:50
  Going to enter a smack contest where they stand on stage and
• 41:53
  they smack each other in the face.
• 41:54
  Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, it turns into that.
• 41:57
  It comes. It turns into like rubbing your
• 41:58
  cheek. That's a nice face and a whack.
• 42:00
  So, Rob. What do you think of that
• 42:02
  situation? That he's going to let somebody
• 42:03
  smack him before he smokes. You, you, you.
• 42:07
  Cut that cigar and get ready for it.
• 42:11
  So do you guys do it for the consumer or do you do it for
• 42:16
  yourself? I would say a little of both.
• 42:21
  We definitely do it for ourselves because it's what
• 42:23
  we're looking for, but it is kind of a challenge trying to
• 42:27
  marry everything to meet multiple palates, right?
• 42:30
  You know that that's the. Biggest challenge like, you
• 42:32
  know, this weekend I was down at Cape May.
• 42:34
  I gave a cigar shop owner or Habano, he's his feedback to me.
• 42:39
  He said, you know what, I'd give it a 5 out of 10.
• 42:42
  I said, OK, well tell me why. And he said, well, you know, I
• 42:44
  started off it was, it was kind of sweet.
• 42:46
  It didn't give me the pop that I wanted.
• 42:48
  And I said, well, you know, keep in mind you're also smoking pure
• 42:52
  Dominican. You know, I'm, I'm wondering if
• 42:55
  he was looking for maybe a little Nicaraguan in there too,
• 42:57
  you know, to, to give that extra pop.
• 42:59
  So I said, you know what you want pop?
• 43:01
  Yeah, try this Maduro. Let me know how you like that
• 43:03
  one. You know, but I, but I, but I
• 43:05
  take the feedback and like Josanne, I always say, you know,
• 43:08
  if you think and excuse my friendship, but if you think
• 43:10
  that our, our, our cigars are dog shit, tell us, but don't,
• 43:14
  but don't come to the table and say your cigar's garbage.
• 43:17
  Tell me why I want to understand your palate, because then I can
• 43:20
  understand your palate and say, Hey, you may like this one a
• 43:22
  little better, You know, so it's, it's trying, trying to
• 43:25
  meet those different palates, I think is the biggest challenge.
• 43:28
  But we, of course, we started out with what we like because we
• 43:32
  know that we can make a good cigar because our palates are
• 43:35
  refined enough. So for us.
• 43:39
  Basically, we try to get the consumers perspective, but I'm
• 43:43
  we're also making cigars for smokers.
• 43:45
  Yeah, I'm. Not putting.
• 43:47
  A fancy box out and saying, oh, look how smooth this nice this
• 43:50
  is. And then you smoke.
• 43:53
  I'm going to give you a cigar that I put my name on.
• 43:55
  Rob, put his name on that you're going to thoroughly enjoy.
• 44:00
  You're not going to smoke my cigar just to the band I'm
• 44:03
  standing on. You're going to smoke it to the
• 44:04
  nub. You're getting your pick out.
• 44:06
  I I didn't try to feel right. With you, I did that with the
• 44:09
  Colorado and the Habano when we were sitting on TikTok with DH
• 44:13
  and and Mike and all those guys. Let me just question.
• 44:17
  So I was on TikTok with you last night, was it?
• 44:21
  Or the night before? So when I come on there,
• 44:28
  everybody goes, who's this guy? Who's that guy?
• 44:30
  He's got his own cigars. I'm like, Nope, I'm just a
• 44:33
  average Joe schmucker telly smoke cigars for 25 years and I
• 44:38
  love it. Well, how did you come up with
• 44:40
  Boss Dog cigars? Listen.
• 44:42
  That just kind. Of happened.
• 44:43
  I've been smoking cigars. For 25 years.
• 44:47
  We're getting all the cigars. Out.
• 44:49
  We're only getting our cigars out now, so put it up on the on.
• 44:54
  The collar of your shirt, The thing is.
• 44:56
  Shit the. Thing is this.
• 45:00
  There it goes, just dropping shit whether I'm boss dog
• 45:03
  cigars. Or I'm just boss dog, a big dog,
• 45:07
  however you want to call it. I am who I am.
• 45:10
  I'm like pop out of Taylor, man. If you don't like me, I'm going
• 45:13
  to tell you move on. Yeah.
• 45:16
  You know what I'm? Saying it's like your cigars,
• 45:18
  you don't like Windsor, There's a hundred other fucking
• 45:22
  companies out there, 100%. Yeah, listen, I'm not saying,
• 45:25
  I'm not saying don't smoke for the cigars, but I'm standing on
• 45:28
  mine saying my cigars I'll go with against anybody.
• 45:33
  So that's. Our focus, right?
• 45:34
  Now we want to smoke with anybody and and that's that's.
• 45:37
  That's what's big about that is you're not you're not out to
• 45:40
  just try to take over the boutiques.
• 45:42
  You're out to kind of make your name a legacy brand.
• 45:45
  And here's. I want you.
• 45:48
  I want you to think. When you think of a robusto
• 45:50
  cigar, the first thing I want you to see is that right there.
• 45:54
  So here's what I'm. Going to say to you here's.
• 45:56
  What I'm going to say to. You this Cameroon is.
• 45:59
  Is. Just saying that you output
• 46:02
  every a golden child. I'm I'm telling you.
• 46:04
  This Cameroon is something man tell us the company that.
• 46:06
  You want. You want everything.
• 46:08
  Oh, so right now. For the Maduro we want, we want
• 46:11
  all the smoke with Padrone. Padrone, if you're out there and
• 46:14
  you listening to this, we want to put this against your 2000,
• 46:18
  take the bands off, give it to anybody in the country, anybody
• 46:21
  in the world for that matter, and I guarantee you we're going
• 46:23
  to come out on top every time now.
• 46:25
  Why? Why is that?
• 46:27
  Why do you? Why?
• 46:28
  I'm going to tell you. Why?
• 46:30
  And it's nothing against Padrone.
• 46:31
  They're a fantastic company. It's the most sold robusto in
• 46:36
  the world, right? The the the.
• 46:39
  The Pedron The Pedron 2000 Robusto is the most sold cigar
• 46:44
  in the world, so. If I can get the drone on here
• 46:49
  on a Sunday and I say, Jose, I want you to come on, I'm there
• 46:54
  on Saturday, will you come on with him?
• 46:58
  I'm on. I'm there on Saturday waiting
• 47:00
  for you guys. I'll do the podcast.
• 47:03
  At your house I'm sitting down on.
• 47:05
  Saturday night, I'm waiting. I'm in the studio.
• 47:08
  Look, I'm waiting. So on.
• 47:11
  That note, I'm going to send a message to Bajrone and tell him
• 47:16
  I want him on a podcast. And when I get that date, I'm
• 47:20
  going to say we got another guest coming on and he owns his
• 47:23
  own cigar company and I think you guys should work this out.
• 47:29
  Just do it. Oh, we.
• 47:30
  Love it. If, if, if we.
• 47:32
  Could that's, that's a big, that's a very big if because a
• 47:35
  lot of these big companies and and rightfully so, yeah.
• 47:38
  But listen. But listen.
• 47:40
  Listen. Listen with these guys a.
• 47:42
  Lot of these. Companies, it's not Even so much
• 47:44
  who are these guys? They don't need to do stuff like
• 47:46
  this because their brand sells itself.
• 47:49
  You know, like El Septimo does podcasts.
• 47:51
  Not very many, but he doesn't. And again.
• 47:55
  Great cigars. I've smoked a couple of them I
• 47:57
  had. I've had the opportunity to have
• 47:58
  my hands on a few of them. I I actually, I enjoyed them.
• 48:02
  I was, I was surprised that's a brand.
• 48:04
  I was very shocked. I was enjoying, but it was good.
• 48:07
  Definitely something I would buy at the price point for sure
• 48:11
  because I thought it was a lot more than you know, I actually
• 48:15
  thought it was priced so on. That note, guys, we got to take
• 48:18
  another 15 minute break. Not even 15 minutes be about. 5.
• 48:22
  Let's do it. There we go.
• 52:48
  What is up? What is?
• 52:49
  Up. Happy Sunday, Happy fun day.
• 52:50
  We are back here with Windrum Cigars, the big dog, the vanilla
• 52:56
  gorilla, Rob and Jose from Windrum Cigars.
• 53:00
  Real quick, let's give. Another shout out to 4 Johns
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  him the new one. If you guys want the flag, let
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  me know and I will get it put on the site for you.
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  This was just a, this was just a test run for us.
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  I just want to see how it came out.
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  Or you can go get your hat, your your three different design
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  shirts with our logo, the logo they created and the last of
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  that three pack LJN design shirt.
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  Because as of later today, it's going to be A tag team 2 pack
• 53:49
  design that I already came up with.
• 53:51
  It's already said and done. It's in my phone, designed,
• 53:54
  ready to be put on a shirt. So I have something I want.
• 53:58
  To touch on real quick about the padrone challenge, if possible I
• 54:02
  want to make a gentleman's bet to padrone.
• 54:05
  The winner? Is going to provide shirts and
• 54:08
  we need a picture of all of us with the with the winter shirts
• 54:11
  on hey listen that's. That's actually, that's not a
• 54:14
  bad idea. That's really not bad at all.
• 54:17
  Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
• 54:18
  Mind seeing a couple of people from a drone win a couple of
• 54:20
  Wyndham shirts? I'll even give them this one.
• 54:22
  Hey, listen, but that's. That's the beauty of it is if,
• 54:25
  if those bigger companies are not consider, if they don't
• 54:29
  consider it competition and it's, it's, it's helping each
• 54:34
  other or just smoking different brands, then you know what
• 54:37
  that's good because now well. Like you said, you got these.
• 54:41
  Cigars, if they're if that happens and they do that and
• 54:45
  they live up to their end and they, you know, put on their
• 54:47
  your stuff and promote your cigars.
• 54:49
  Now listen, that's another that's another big, you know,
• 54:52
  promotion in your pocket. Yeah.
• 54:54
  And don't and don't get me. Wrong that that age 2000 Maduro
• 54:57
  beautiful smoke. We we, we sat and smoked ours
• 55:00
  and smoked theirs back-to-back. You know, great smoke, fantastic
• 55:04
  smoke. Now was it?
• 55:05
  Was it when you smoked them back-to-back?
• 55:06
  Did you feel it was close? It was close, Yeah.
• 55:10
  Oh. It's, it's, it's going to be a
• 55:11
  good race. It's.
• 55:11
  Not a blowout. You're not going to sit here.
• 55:13
  No, no, no. That's what I'm asking.
• 55:14
  That's what I'm. Saying you smoke them
• 55:16
  back-to-back. That's why I'm asking because
• 55:18
  I'm I'm curious. Doubt I know.
• 55:20
  No, it's it's it's. It's a very good smoke.
• 55:21
  I will. I will not take anything away
• 55:23
  from the smoke, but I still like to see a couple of people from
• 55:26
  the drone wearing some Wyndham shirts in the in the in the
• 55:28
  picture with us. That's all I'm going to say.
• 55:30
  Padrone. That's all I'm saying Padrone,
• 55:33
  right? I I that's.
• 55:35
  That's the Maduro. I might light that up next bro
• 55:37
  look. We started to look how look how
• 55:39
  this is burning. Oh, I know I'm.
• 55:42
  This Cameroon is is look at the construction.
• 55:44
  On this guys, I mean. Like I said, I'm a.
• 55:47
  Stand on this, Joey. Yeah, I just mine is only
• 55:49
  burning a. Little wonky because I got a fan
• 55:51
  sitting in front of me. That's it.
• 55:53
  Yeah, but. All the other ones.
• 55:54
  I've had that, I lit up even burn great, great smoke output,
• 55:59
  easy draw which is something I look for in a cigar.
• 56:02
  I don't want AI, don't want a super tight draw, but I also
• 56:06
  don't want it loose enough that you know every time I I take a
• 56:11
  puff. I'm taking out, you know, a.
• 56:13
  Quarter of the cigar each time, right?
• 56:15
  It's about the. Construction.
• 56:16
  You want one thing, you're going to.
• 56:17
  Notice about the construction. You can touch this.
• 56:20
  Cigar as close as you want to the ash and it will not get hot.
• 56:28
  See what I'm saying? I'm holding.
• 56:29
  It now I'm. But mine got hot, but that's
• 56:31
  because I'm a stupid and I'm holding it basically on the burn
• 56:33
  line. Look, I'm right by the.
• 56:36
  Burn line you can see. I mean, I could go a.
• 56:38
  Little bit right above that burn line and I'm.
• 56:41
  It's not hot there either. No, that's what I'm.
• 56:43
  Saying it won't be hot on you, won't cigar, you get close.
• 56:46
  To that burn line and it's going to get hot because that's what's
• 56:49
  burning. But you could go a little bit
• 56:51
  above that burn and it's still not hot and you're not getting
• 56:54
  that. As I call it that.
• 56:56
  Acidically hot taste of the cigar, right?
• 57:00
  That's when. It gets bitter, yeah.
• 57:02
  Now I know you guys said you're doing robustos, obviously I
• 57:07
  would assume there's more sizes in the works down the line all.
• 57:11
  Right now. Now you're you kind of know
• 57:14
  where I'm going with this because it's been talked about
• 57:17
  numerous times sitting on the lives with a certain someone on
• 57:20
  TikTok. You ain't doing any 9 by 90s
• 57:22
  right, No, no, No 9 by 10 by hundreds, nothing like that.
• 57:27
  No, no. So there won't be, no, there
• 57:29
  won't be no Wyndham challenge coming up for for certain couple
• 57:33
  people. If if like if.
• 57:35
  We're to do a challenge. Yeah, I'd do something,
• 57:37
  something really astronomical like that, right?
• 57:40
  But for me, I think that's a waste.
• 57:44
  I'm going to keep it I'm. Going to keep it 100 with you
• 57:46
  guys. I got I use good tobacco so I
• 57:48
  wouldn't want to waste it on a 10 by 120 right?
• 57:51
  Waste it on a 9 by 90? I feel like I'm wasting on a 5
• 57:54
  by 52. It's that you know my the
• 57:57
  tobacco sits for three years before anyone even touches it
• 58:01
  before anyone puts a hand on those leaves.
• 58:03
  They sat for three years, then they roll it, then it sits for
• 58:08
  another year. So what you guys smoked was
• 58:11
  rolled in 2023? OK.
• 58:15
  So that's. Why what I'm saying like, but as
• 58:17
  far as other sizes, yes. So I'm going to let the cat out
• 58:21
  the bag right now. Wyndham Reserve Cigars is a a
• 58:24
  strictly robusto only retailer, wholesaler, cigar manufacturer,
• 58:29
  right? But, but we do a limited release
• 58:35
  every other year and it's a different size.
• 58:39
  So what's the one for this? Completely different blend.
• 58:41
  Completely different blend, completely different everything.
• 58:44
  It's like a whole different company.
• 58:46
  But the So this year I'm going to give it.
• 58:48
  I'm going to give you guys you're going to be the first
• 58:49
  people that we're letting this house to so live on turnbuckles
• 58:53
  and stogies. We're going to give you guys the
• 58:55
  first ever. You want to grab it?
• 58:57
  No, you got. It I'm enjoying my I'm going.
• 59:00
  To go grab it right now, I'm going to show you for the first
• 59:02
  time ever, the first limit called the adventure, OK?
• 59:08
  The stick has. 11 transitions. I remember you.
• 59:11
  Mentioning that to us, four transitions.
• 59:14
  In the first third are you? That's insane.
• 59:17
  My partner's going. To grab it now, I'm going to
• 59:19
  give you a preview. That's before I tell.
• 59:21
  You the size 4 transitions in 1/3 is absolutely insane, so
• 59:28
  welcome to 6. Flags.
• 59:29
  How did you come? Out how did you come out with
• 59:35
  the the? 4 transitions for this blend, so
• 59:38
  between. Kiko and Juan, they had this,
• 59:41
  this, this crazy idea to make a cigar with more transitions than
• 59:48
  anyone has ever has ever done. Basically that.
• 59:51
  Doesn't include Italian, African, Ghana, so correct so.
• 59:55
  Between the 50 years of of experience for them, they came
• 59:59
  up with this blend and they've been letting it sit.
• 1:00:03
  It's been sitting for the. Last year and a half, almost two
• 1:00:06
  years, OK. So when we got to the factory
• 1:00:11
  and I started talking to my blenders and I was like, you
• 1:00:13
  know what I got? I wanted to do something for the
• 1:00:15
  limit and I told him my inspiration for the limit.
• 1:00:18
  He just stopped me right there. I walked out of the office, went
• 1:00:22
  to the to the to La Galleta. La Galleta is where they roll
• 1:00:25
  all the cigars. Yep.
• 1:00:26
  Well, I'm in the Galleta talking to one of the guys just talking
• 1:00:30
  shit because that's. Chopping it up I get.
• 1:00:34
  Back into the office and my partner hands me a stick and it
• 1:00:37
  says put this in your mouth. So I'm like, whoa, champ, easy
• 1:00:40
  with that. Cause no, that's that's that's
• 1:00:43
  because. We they're.
• 1:00:45
  Like us? Yeah, we we hate each.
• 1:00:46
  Other they're like us, father and son.
• 1:00:49
  But we ain't father and son. But they act like you're calling
• 1:00:51
  for us. Not easy with that old man.
• 1:00:53
  So anyway, I put this stick in my mouth and I'm like, the fuck
• 1:00:58
  is this? I look at my blender and he just
• 1:01:00
  laughs and he goes. That's your limit.
• 1:01:03
  So I like. The limit up. 1st.
• 1:01:07
  I'm going to go in by telling you guys it's an open foot.
• 1:01:11
  So there's the foot of the. Clothes.
• 1:01:13
  It's an open foot design. So OK.
• 1:01:22
  I like this. This is the.
• 1:01:23
  Adventure as as some people. Would call it.
• 1:01:25
  It's got that shaggy foot. So that's the adventure.
• 1:01:30
  Right there. So you're.
• 1:01:31
  Smoking. You're smoking straight binder
• 1:01:34
  and filler for that first little third, correct?
• 1:01:37
  So bind, you're smoking. A Petrito to start right when.
• 1:01:41
  Is that coming? Out to the public this is going
• 1:01:44
  to be. Out for the Public 2027, which
• 1:01:47
  goes back to tell you. We let them sit, yeah.
• 1:01:50
  I can. It's ready.
• 1:01:51
  Now I can, I can, I can put this out in production right now.
• 1:01:54
  No, it's I'm doing you guys a disservice 'cause I'm going to
• 1:01:59
  let this sit and these these, these, these flavors are just
• 1:02:03
  going to marry each other and when you.
• 1:02:06
  Really get to enjoy. This stick, you're going to
• 1:02:09
  thank me for letting. You're going to thank us for
• 1:02:10
  letting us. Have sat for what three years
• 1:02:13
  like you said, correct. So like to you would be doing a
• 1:02:16
  disservice to the rest of your line to just put it out there
• 1:02:19
  123 and be ready. Even though it is ready, you
• 1:02:22
  want to let it sit for the same amount of time as now.
• 1:02:25
  Like I want to smoke. This now, but I'm I'm trying not
• 1:02:28
  to but. These are going to be limited
• 1:02:30
  as. Well, there's only going to be
• 1:02:32
  500 boxes of these, and now what's?
• 1:02:34
  The cut the tip off is smoking so 500 boxes So what is it a 10
• 1:02:38
  count box yeah we only. Make 10 count boxes OK.
• 1:02:44
  So. But right now we're live.
• 1:02:46
  You can buy our cigars now. So what we're what we're doing
• 1:02:49
  now is 10 count bundles. So we're we're giving.
• 1:02:54
  The consumer a savings to start by not giving them boxes because
• 1:02:57
  our boxes are still in final production again.
• 1:03:00
  Just like the. Blends.
• 1:03:01
  We were picking on boxes. I need a certain.
• 1:03:04
  Type of cedar. I need a certain type of enamel
• 1:03:07
  paint. It had to be perfect because I
• 1:03:10
  can't come to. We can't come and say we want to
• 1:03:13
  go against XY and Z if we're looking like our stuff's not
• 1:03:16
  correct, right? Exactly. 100% and we also know.
• 1:03:20
  You got to crawl before you walk, right?
• 1:03:22
  So again. Again, you mentioned something
• 1:03:26
  and said we're giving it to the consumers as a preview.
• 1:03:31
  How can they purchase those as you said per SE 10 minutes ago?
• 1:03:37
  Because they didn't listen when I asked the question the first
• 1:03:39
  time. So hello.
• 1:03:41
  McFly. How can?
• 1:03:45
  They how can they buy? Listen how?
• 1:03:49
  So, Joe, you better tell. Biff to fucking eat shit, all
• 1:03:51
  right? How can they buy the?
• 1:03:55
  Cigars player. So right now my.
• 1:03:58
  Brother, we're still integrating the system for as far as we're
• 1:04:01
  sending state to state for state taxes compliancy as far as
• 1:04:06
  people who over 21 people, over 18 people getting it where
• 1:04:10
  there's no issues as far as an issue as a liability on your
• 1:04:14
  behalf nor my behalf. But for right now, people who
• 1:04:17
  have the in who know people like yourselves, right, you just
• 1:04:20
  literally call me and say, listen, I want this and that
• 1:04:22
  goes without words. Now what's what's?
• 1:04:24
  The price point on your cigars, so the.
• 1:04:27
  Connecticut's It's 1199, which is.
• 1:04:30
  This one, guys, so you can see right, That's what Rob's
• 1:04:33
  smoking. Right now the Connecticut's
• 1:04:35
  1199, the Habanos 1299, which is your red label.
• 1:04:39
  Correct the green. Label Colorado's 1399.
• 1:04:43
  That's not bad. Not bad at all.
• 1:04:45
  Our cigars are sub. Yeah, they're not those.
• 1:04:47
  Prices aren't bad at all. Are Maduros 15?
• 1:04:50
  99 in the Cameroon, which is the golden child 1799 that's a fit.
• 1:04:54
  That's a $16.00 stick that's worth that one I can see
• 1:04:57
  because. It is it is a a very hard rapper
• 1:05:01
  to work with, from what I've heard.
• 1:05:03
  So I can understand why why the price point's a little higher
• 1:05:06
  because it's from what everybody has told me that we spoke to,
• 1:05:09
  it's a hard wrapper to get a hold of.
• 1:05:11
  Yes, it's very hard to work and blend with because it is such a
• 1:05:15
  You either get a super thick one or you get one that's too thin
• 1:05:19
  or one that you got to keep. Poking holes in and then, yeah,
• 1:05:23
  very fragile. Very fragile wrapper, not
• 1:05:25
  anybody. That's why not everybody offers
• 1:05:27
  a Cameroon. So now.
• 1:05:29
  That's like a a. Corojo as well.
• 1:05:31
  A lot of people don't offer corojo rappers.
• 1:05:33
  Let me ask you this or a. Creojo.
• 1:05:35
  Rapper. Stuff like that, because like
• 1:05:36
  you said, that they're hard to work with.
• 1:05:38
  I'm going to ask you this. Rob, because I know he's been in
• 1:05:41
  the factory because homeboy always takes pictures.
• 1:05:44
  I got a picture of YouTube, by the way.
• 1:05:46
  He's sitting here like that. So Rob, when was the last time
• 1:05:50
  you were at the factory? Oh, I was with him.
• 1:05:52
  At the factory, I was the one taking the pictures you see of
• 1:05:54
  him. So your camera's broken now.
• 1:05:59
  You can't take your own pitches. Oh, I do.
• 1:06:02
  I got. Selfies up there, me smoking
• 1:06:03
  that binder. Yeah, I mean he.
• 1:06:05
  Got a? Burrito 2 Pejitos, 2 Pejitos, No
• 1:06:09
  3 Pejitos in his hand. He's like this.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, we went. We went down.
• 1:06:14
  What was it a week and a half ago?
• 1:06:15
  Yeah, yeah, we just got back a week and a half ago.
• 1:06:17
  We went down together. So when are you going back?
• 1:06:20
  To the factory in the. Next couple weeks, yeah.
• 1:06:23
  So now let me. Ask you this question.
• 1:06:25
  So I know a lot of people when they want to go on a factory
• 1:06:29
  tour, said me. And Joey said hey, you guys want
• 1:06:34
  to go to Wyndham Cigars? I got a factory tour.
• 1:06:37
  How does that go about that? You call me?
• 1:06:42
  Are you going to be there, Rob? Going to be there?
• 1:06:44
  Yeah, if you want. A tour of the factory.
• 1:06:46
  You're on the tour. We walk you through the factory.
• 1:06:49
  What do you? Get when you go on a tour.
• 1:06:51
  I've never been on one, that's why I'm asking so for.
• 1:06:53
  Example, our factory is not a super huge factory where our
• 1:06:57
  factory was established in 1978. It's 48 years old, it's family
• 1:07:02
  owned, super small, but super, super driven on quality.
• 1:07:07
  So for example, if we took you to the factory first thing we do
• 1:07:11
  first thing first and foremost, everybody welcomes you do.
• 1:07:15
  You do. You're never going.
• 1:07:16
  To get a side eye or like who are these people?
• 1:07:18
  You're going to, they're going to talk to you like they known
• 1:07:20
  you for 50 years. Go ahead.
• 1:07:22
  You're going to be like, yo, who the hell do you wear?
• 1:07:24
  Masters. I don't wear any masks no more
• 1:07:26
  sorry. Them days is over.
• 1:07:27
  No, no, there's. No mask in our factory.
• 1:07:30
  The only mask you're going to need is going into the drying
• 1:07:32
  room and you need a gas mask. Yeah, I've heard that.
• 1:07:36
  It's it's like an. Ammonia punch to the face, bro,
• 1:07:38
  it's no joke. But to to to your to your
• 1:07:41
  question on a factory toilet, first thing you would do we'd go
• 1:07:45
  into the into the into the courtyard.
• 1:07:46
  You'd be you're. Welcomed by.
• 1:07:49
  Everybody and we'd go upstairs. We go to first you go to
• 1:07:52
  reception, then we go to Master Blender's office.
• 1:07:56
  In the Master Blender's office, he would greet you, welcome you,
• 1:08:01
  and then just laugh, walk out, come back in with a handful of
• 1:08:04
  cigars and just smile at you and hand you a cigar and just tell
• 1:08:08
  you to Light doesn't know English.
• 1:08:10
  He would just say light, Light because a lot.
• 1:08:12
  Of times. What they're doing too is, from
• 1:08:14
  what I've heard is they're handing you test blends of new
• 1:08:18
  stuff and they just want you to light it.
• 1:08:20
  They don't want you to know what it is.
• 1:08:21
  There's no band. They don't tell you what company
• 1:08:23
  it's from. It's just smoke this and then
• 1:08:26
  let them know what you think so. Let me ask you this question.
• 1:08:29
  That's what I've heard again. I, I haven't been on a factory
• 1:08:32
  tour, but a lot from everybody I've spoke to, that's what I
• 1:08:35
  hear is the master blender will come in and just here's 2
• 1:08:38
  cigars, smoke them and let me know so I know you guys.
• 1:08:41
  Know Fanatics Cigar shop. Yes, I know, Joel.
• 1:08:44
  I grew up with Joel so. Him and his son Kenny and their.
• 1:08:48
  Grandfather. 'S house into a factory, yes.
• 1:08:54
  So I know they offer lunch, snacks or whatever.
• 1:09:00
  What do you guys offer besides the cigars?
• 1:09:05
  We take your. Like, for example, you go on a
• 1:09:07
  factory tour with us. I don't.
• 1:09:09
  I don't. In our factory, there is no
• 1:09:11
  breakfast, there is no lunch. We go out to eat, so we'd walk,
• 1:09:14
  we'd go to the factory and then we'd go out right into the town
• 1:09:18
  and eat local food. You sit with real people and
• 1:09:21
  that means you guys. Pay for it, obviously.
• 1:09:23
  Yeah, that's no. Biggie.
• 1:09:25
  That's no biggie. We go when we go to.
• 1:09:27
  Dr. We're going to hit him once I go, once I get.
• 1:09:29
  Back passport settled. I do want to take a trip to the
• 1:09:32
  car because that's the and we're going to stay in.
• 1:09:34
  The same. That's a place I I.
• 1:09:36
  Want to go to and and see. Like you said, Tambarilla is the
• 1:09:38
  big capital. I want to go there.
• 1:09:40
  I want to see we're going to smoke.
• 1:09:41
  And drink all the factories. And and you know.
• 1:09:45
  Walking around and stuff to wear them.
• 1:09:46
  T-shirts. All day long, that's all.
• 1:09:48
  I'm not. I'm not worried about the bill.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah. Money's paid for we.
• 1:09:51
  Always make more money, you know that already, everybody.
• 1:09:55
  We're going to drink and. Smoke all day.
• 1:09:58
  That's it. That's fine, yeah.
• 1:10:00
  That's what we. Did the the the five days we
• 1:10:02
  were down there? You speaking my language?
• 1:10:04
  So I'm going to get my. Passport tomorrow I.
• 1:10:07
  Mean like no no get. It that's.
• 1:10:09
  What? I get.
• 1:10:11
  Yeah, this one became. Expensive now after COVID?
• 1:10:14
  Yeah, you are. I'll tell you one thing, you'll
• 1:10:16
  love it over there bro. That's what everybody says.
• 1:10:18
  Absolutely phenomenal my. My best friend, his family owns
• 1:10:24
  a farm over there in Tom Burrell.
• 1:10:27
  He owns a farm and he keeps asking me to come out there.
• 1:10:30
  I said, bro, I ain't got my passport.
• 1:10:32
  How did you travel? I said my passports.
• 1:10:34
  I've been resting 25 years. My passport expired 15 years
• 1:10:38
  ago. I don't even know what the.
• 1:10:41
  Hell it is so, yeah, but definitely.
• 1:10:44
  It's it's a fantastic time and tambourine is is hood.
• 1:10:48
  It's not like we stayed in Santiago.
• 1:10:50
  I'm going to keep it 100 with you when we we say there's some
• 1:10:52
  fancy dancy high rise shit, keep it 100.
• 1:10:56
  I got. I got no problems.
• 1:10:58
  With that, what else? What happened?
• 1:10:59
  We weren't. Expecting that, yeah, we took
• 1:11:01
  another brother of ours with us and he happens to be very
• 1:11:05
  wealthy out there. He won't be here, but we didn't
• 1:11:08
  think he was like the level that it was out there.
• 1:11:11
  I'm saying when you got. A lot of money.
• 1:11:13
  They'll they'll put you up wherever you want to stay.
• 1:11:15
  Tell them I want to stay in the Hilton.
• 1:11:17
  I want the whole top floor. I want everyone want to.
• 1:11:19
  We ain't got that money. Oh.
• 1:11:20
  No. You too.
• 1:11:21
  We, we, we, we don't do funding. We, we fund our own project.
• 1:11:24
  Yeah. So we don't have a bank behind
• 1:11:26
  us. Windham Reserve Is is is
• 1:11:28
  literally funded by these two people right here.
• 1:11:30
  Yeah. You hang on a second May.
• 1:11:31
  Or may not get bed bugs. Listen, I'm joking.
• 1:11:34
  No, no. We fucking with you too, trust
• 1:11:37
  me. Whatever you throw, I throw
• 1:11:39
  right back at you, my brother. I'm good with that.
• 1:11:41
  We fucking. It's true though, and I.
• 1:11:42
  You know what everybody says that I've heard.
• 1:11:45
  I like, I've heard. Go to Santiago.
• 1:11:46
  They have factories there. Yeah, I saw.
• 1:11:49
  So Santiago, but not a lot. It's very few.
• 1:11:52
  Does the biggest. Factory in Santiago is Ochoa
• 1:11:55
  right? Why have I heard that name
• 1:11:58
  before you? Heard the name because.
• 1:11:59
  You you know who Pablo Escobar is?
• 1:12:02
  Yeah, Yeah. Remember the Ochoa?
• 1:12:03
  Brothers. Yes, I think so.
• 1:12:05
  Yeah, OK. So for example.
• 1:12:07
  The Ochoa brothers just went silent, right?
• 1:12:11
  They really didn't. They really didn't, you know
• 1:12:13
  what I mean? They bought a cigar factory.
• 1:12:15
  They. Listen.
• 1:12:16
  They bought more than that. They're smart dudes.
• 1:12:19
  Big luck to them not talking shit about y'all.
• 1:12:21
  Actually, I think I. Just seen a video of somebody
• 1:12:26
  getting their cigars so. They have a really big.
• 1:12:30
  Factory. Nice factory.
• 1:12:31
  Never been inside. What is the newest?
• 1:12:33
  Cigar that you guys are going to be putting out besides the one
• 1:12:37
  you showed us on TV on? That's right.
• 1:12:39
  Now we go one step at a time. We're, we're focusing on our,
• 1:12:41
  our 5 lines that we came out with and our one limit already.
• 1:12:45
  So we're good for the next year, year and a half.
• 1:12:48
  In that year and a half, we'll have another one coming out.
• 1:12:52
  Works. We just don't know.
• 1:12:54
  What size do you go? And the blend still has to be
• 1:12:57
  tasted. That's why we're going back
• 1:12:58
  again, right? Are you going?
• 1:13:00
  To PCA next year we're trying to get.
• 1:13:03
  Into PCA, yes, But the problem, I'll be honest with you, to get
• 1:13:06
  into PCA ain't cheap. Like if you want to get into
• 1:13:09
  PCA, have a small booth, Yeah, you need like 20.
• 1:13:12
  Grand just I was going to say 20 people have told me 20 to like
• 1:13:16
  50,000 just for a small corner a little push, but you.
• 1:13:19
  Get. If you want one of those bigger
• 1:13:21
  boots like you said like 100 grand that puts you closer to
• 1:13:23
  the front, remember the. Legacies.
• 1:13:26
  Take everything over. They're spending $1,000,000 at
• 1:13:29
  least affordable smoking lounges, Jose.
• 1:13:31
  Yeah, here's the thing. What's up my brother a little?
• 1:13:33
  Push. Myself and Joey can help you
• 1:13:36
  because we are members of the TPA, which is the Tobacco and
• 1:13:41
  Pipe Association Tobacco. Still if you need a little push.
• 1:13:45
  Join the TPA, tell them that you know Boss Dog and Joey.
• 1:13:50
  It's $100 or well. Manufacturers are a different
• 1:13:54
  price, but what it does is. It connects you every Wednesday
• 1:13:58
  night at 8:00 and they can push it.
• 1:14:02
  They got a thing coming up in October.
• 1:14:03
  What they do is it. It connects you with consumers,
• 1:14:07
  with media, with factory owners, other brand owners, stuff like
• 1:14:11
  that, you know, and it's, it's nice because it gives you guys,
• 1:14:15
  if you release something or you want to push your line, it gives
• 1:14:19
  you that, that list of all the media you can go on to.
• 1:14:24
  And a lot of guys will. Reach out.
• 1:14:26
  But again, I, I I've used the list.
• 1:14:30
  It works. I can't say it doesn't.
• 1:14:31
  I've used it and it works. I like it.
• 1:14:34
  We're a part of it. We have been since the
• 1:14:36
  beginning. Really OK.
• 1:14:40
  We were one of the first, I think, set of media to join.
• 1:14:43
  Yes, we were. Matter of fact, I can call it's
• 1:14:46
  right now, but it's it's. Not a bad it's not a bad thing
• 1:14:49
  to look into I can send you guys the link if you want it's not
• 1:14:54
  something bad to look into that yeah yeah, that we send it
• 1:14:56
  we're. Open to all of that.
• 1:14:57
  Like I said, we're we're a new blue cheese company.
• 1:14:59
  Yeah, PCA is just. Hard.
• 1:15:01
  It's hard to get into APCA so so as far as.
• 1:15:03
  PCA, We are affiliated with PCA through our blender.
• 1:15:06
  He is part of the PCA. So we're basically with just
• 1:15:11
  just riding coattails with him right now, which is good though.
• 1:15:14
  Because if he goes anything he makes, he's going to be roll.
• 1:15:19
  We're going to be at PC, we'll be at PCA, right?
• 1:15:22
  We're going to be right in the same booth and he's actually
• 1:15:24
  going to be rolling our blend there.
• 1:15:26
  Well, and that's good. Because usually like somebody
• 1:15:28
  like that goes, if a roller goes and gets a, a booth for the
• 1:15:32
  factory, anything that's made in that factory can be on that
• 1:15:36
  table. Where you run into a problem is
• 1:15:39
  if, let's just say you guys go and you invite us and we come
• 1:15:43
  with you guys and we bring our cigars.
• 1:15:45
  We can't do that. Because we're.
• 1:15:48
  Not affiliated with you guys or your factory.
• 1:15:51
  So we can't come put our cigars there.
• 1:15:52
  And it can cost you guys a lot of money if they if they catch
• 1:15:56
  us, which again, that that's not what we would ever do because we
• 1:16:01
  don't want to screw ourselves in the long run for the opportunity
• 1:16:04
  to be able to do when we finally get everything, you know, up and
• 1:16:08
  running and you know, start generating that revenue.
• 1:16:11
  We don't want to screw ourselves to have the opportunity to be
• 1:16:14
  able to go there, right? So as far as when?
• 1:16:19
  We were talking about sales and we're talking about price points
• 1:16:22
  and what we had to offer. We also have packages, but I got
• 1:16:27
  some sick. I got we got some sick packages.
• 1:16:30
  So we have the big baller package, which is a herfedor
• 1:16:34
  with 450 sticks in it, seasoned, which comes with T-shirts,
• 1:16:39
  lighters, glass edge glasses. And 100.
• 1:16:46
  Extra humor bags If you ever need to take your sticks on the
• 1:16:49
  go and you don't want to take a humor door, we're going to put
• 1:16:52
  in branded humor bags for you. Now what's?
• 1:16:54
  What's the? Price on that one for that that
• 1:16:56
  package there 7000. I can see that.
• 1:17:00
  So how much and it's? A It's a great.
• 1:17:02
  Deal these cigars and a herfed door.
• 1:17:06
  A herfed door. Glasses, shirts, lighters, every
• 1:17:09
  so. So let me ask.
• 1:17:10
  You this somebody like me and Joey being that we got you on a
• 1:17:13
  podcast and I've smoked your cigars.
• 1:17:16
  How does somebody go about just saying hey send us a box,
• 1:17:21
  basically you. Would you do you want, you would
• 1:17:23
  DM us with your information, right?
• 1:17:26
  Let's say, for example, if you, if you're calling me from the
• 1:17:27
  United Kingdom, I really can't do much.
• 1:17:30
  Those sticks, those sticks are going to be like $8000 for a box
• 1:17:33
  because they raise you on import taxes.
• 1:17:35
  But if you're calling me from Idaho, I'm going to look up what
• 1:17:39
  your your, your excise tax is, what your state tax is.
• 1:17:43
  And I'm going to put that into the price of your box.
• 1:17:45
  I'm going to give you my price of the box, what my price is.
• 1:17:48
  But you're also going to have to pay your own state tax and your
• 1:17:51
  own excise tax. And the website should be up
• 1:17:53
  and. Running with.
• 1:17:53
  All of this, probably. Within the next two weeks.
• 1:17:55
  I'm working on that now and that's where the.
• 1:17:57
  The Sometimes the price gets expensive just based on the
• 1:18:01
  state tax and the excise tax. Hello 'cause 70. 5% like
• 1:18:04
  California is I. Think 125 now, or 100 New York
• 1:18:10
  is. Horrible.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah, New York is. It's not good sales tax. 75.
• 1:18:15
  Percent now so you're. Paying 70. $0.05 per stick no.
• 1:18:20
  Yes. Per dollar, Per dollar spent.
• 1:18:24
  If this. Is, let's just say wholesale,
• 1:18:26
  this is a $7.00 cigar. Yeah, they go by the dollar
• 1:18:29
  spent, it goes by. So that's $7.00 would add
• 1:18:33
  another 350 to whoever's buying it to the lounge.
• 1:18:36
  The lounge then in turn has to charge.
• 1:18:38
  If it's 1199, they're going to charge 1899, correct?
• 1:18:44
  Because they got to make. That money back, it's, it's not
• 1:18:46
  like the I didn't, I didn't understand that until we did a a
• 1:18:49
  show in a lounge. And you know.
• 1:18:52
  They, we had one of the guys come on and we're like, listen,
• 1:18:56
  can you explain to the people kind of what you know what you
• 1:19:00
  mean by a 75% tax? And he explained it.
• 1:19:04
  He was like, listen, if this is a wholesale at $5 a stick, we
• 1:19:08
  had another 250 on for whatever the price is.
• 1:19:12
  That's now a $7.50 stick. We now have to charge almost
• 1:19:16
  double that to make money on the cigar.
• 1:19:20
  Which when you. Think about it is insane, but
• 1:19:23
  hopefully, hopefully there's a bill in place that's hitting the
• 1:19:28
  I think it hit the Senate, it's got to hit the House now to put
• 1:19:32
  a $0.50 cap on a $0.50 cap on it, $0.50.
• 1:19:36
  Cap. It's a it's like $0.50 or $0.75,
• 1:19:40
  whatever's less. $0.50 it's going.
• 1:19:43
  To be 50. Cents obviously it's going to be
• 1:19:44
  the cap because 75% is kind of crazy and I think they're
• 1:19:48
  starting to realize because you guys know as well as we do when
• 1:19:52
  they put bills up for tobacco, we get lumped in with all that
• 1:19:55
  with the cigarettes, with the chewing tobacco, you know the
• 1:19:59
  flavored stuff, we all get lumped in with that and then it
• 1:20:02
  makes it harder for guys like us to try to do something in New
• 1:20:04
  York and I think they're starting to realize that which
• 1:20:09
  is why these bills through the CRA and everybody are becoming
• 1:20:13
  more and more frequent to hit the.
• 1:20:16
  Hit the floor because they're starting to realize they're
• 1:20:18
  missing a big portion of. Revenue for the.
• 1:20:23
  State for the country with premium cigars so let me
• 1:20:26
  actually. Let me ask you guys this
• 1:20:27
  question. Have you ever heard of BAMF
• 1:20:30
  Cigar? Yes, bad ass motherfuckers.
• 1:20:33
  So Ish is a very dear friend of ours.
• 1:20:35
  Ish is one of the. The founding members who started
• 1:20:38
  the TBA started it. And then he got people on board.
• 1:20:42
  But here we're trying to get our hands on.
• 1:20:44
  That what? Some.
• 1:20:47
  Of his cigars. We want to try them.
• 1:20:48
  We heard they're really sure they're really good.
• 1:20:50
  So we weren't trying to get our answer.
• 1:20:51
  I'll I'll send. You I can send you the link and
• 1:20:54
  I I think our disc we we have a a code for him.
• 1:20:57
  I just texted him. I'm waiting from the I'll I.
• 1:21:00
  Can send it to you this way. You can try it.
• 1:21:02
  They're really good. And going back to what you were
• 1:21:04
  saying before about the like the IDs and stuff like that, how to
• 1:21:08
  check them? I don't know what system he has,
• 1:21:11
  but when you place your first order, before that order can get
• 1:21:15
  shipped out, it sends you an e-mail that you have to send a
• 1:21:18
  picture of your ID. In an e-mail to.
• 1:21:22
  Them so that they can put it in whatever system it goes to to
• 1:21:24
  prove that you're you're of age right and another.
• 1:21:28
  Thing with issues, issues very particular that was.
• 1:21:32
  On what he does. So good and how he does it
• 1:21:34
  because, you know, he deals with movie stars and everybody else.
• 1:21:42
  And he actually did a a friend of ours who I haven't heard from
• 1:21:45
  in a while. Who?
• 1:21:48
  The black. Guy.
• 1:21:49
  What the hell is his name? Don.
• 1:21:51
  Don Don bargain. Cigars.
• 1:21:56
  Haven't heard from him. In over a year and 1/2 he did
• 1:21:59
  something, yeah. He did his cigars and then I
• 1:22:01
  don't know what happened. So The thing is with this cigar
• 1:22:04
  right here, guys, for everybody watching, that's what's left.
• 1:22:09
  Like he ain't lying. You're going to smoke it down to
• 1:22:11
  the nub till you burn your damn fingers off and it's still not
• 1:22:15
  hot in this little bit that's left.
• 1:22:18
  It's still not hot. You don't have that acidic
• 1:22:21
  taste. So I again, like I said before,
• 1:22:24
  everything I've smoked so far, the Colorado, the Habano, this
• 1:22:28
  one has been right on, right on the money.
• 1:22:32
  And again when people. Say, what notes am I supposed to
• 1:22:34
  get? We can't answer that.
• 1:22:35
  You have a pallet of your own. You're going to get different
• 1:22:37
  notes. We just know what consistent
• 1:22:39
  note that we put in that cigar, and it's funny.
• 1:22:42
  Because we had the same conversation on on live the
• 1:22:44
  other night we were talking about.
• 1:22:46
  It and people. Were like, well what notes do
• 1:22:48
  you get? And I tell them, listen, I can
• 1:22:49
  tell you what I get yeah, but what I get isn't going to be
• 1:22:53
  what you're going to get. I'd rather you smoke, didn't
• 1:22:54
  tell me what you got and then we can.
• 1:22:57
  That's like compare. What we get and then you smoke
• 1:22:59
  it again. And see if you get my notes.
• 1:23:00
  That's like we was. On live last night with a JAAJ,
• 1:23:05
  whatever his name is and he's always talking about I got to
• 1:23:08
  ask my mom. I said, bro, stop asking your
• 1:23:12
  mother because you're going to get us all back.
• 1:23:14
  That's that was. They said that a new time.
• 1:23:17
  They said yeah, hold on, hold on.
• 1:23:18
  There when they said it, the. Other night when he was talking
• 1:23:21
  about cigar bid, he goes. What do you mean?
• 1:23:23
  I said bro, when you say I got to ask my mom, it makes you seem
• 1:23:26
  like you're. Underage.
• 1:23:27
  It makes you seem like. You're only 17 or 18, right?
• 1:23:31
  That would I. Said that doesn't.
• 1:23:33
  Work for people like me, that's all that's left.
• 1:23:35
  I said that doesn't work. For people like me, Windrum now.
• 1:23:40
  Gentlemen, I said. That doesn't work for people
• 1:23:42
  like us. I'm going to see what this is.
• 1:23:43
  All about SO. God bless him.
• 1:23:46
  But guys, we're getting ready to tie this down right now because
• 1:23:50
  we only got 5 minutes left. You ain't got to go nowhere, but
• 1:23:53
  we got to bring you down, put you in the green room.
• 1:23:56
  If you want to hang out and talk, that's cool.
• 1:23:58
  If not, you got Joey's phone number.
• 1:24:00
  Hit him up now we put us in the green.
• 1:24:02
  Room we smoke, we finished smoking.
• 1:24:03
  We going to sit there and keep talking shit.
• 1:24:06
  Excuse me? Excuse me, I'm the I'm the owner
• 1:24:10
  here. Not, not you, but thank you.
• 1:24:14
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• 1:24:17
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• 1:24:21
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• 1:24:25
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