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- 0:08Speaker 1: It's eighteen degrees in Jacksonville, nine degrees in Inverness, a
- 0:12Speaker 1: fourteen in Hastings. This is Teal Talk, the official Jacksonville
- 0:15Speaker 1: Jaguars UK and Ireland podcast, presented by Gallagher. I'm Jay Lawrence,
- 0:21Speaker 1: no relation. He's Key Ram Suran at Jason Bell and
- 0:24Speaker 1: the thoughts of head coach Liam Cohen on the podcast.
- 0:28Speaker 1: But look, let's get into it.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Can't avoid it.
- 0:31Speaker 1: I have to talk about it, Key, we.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Have to contractually, still in shock.
- 0:42Speaker 1: It does feel like we should sort of pass over
- 0:44Speaker 1: the game a little bit though, and just preview preview
- 0:47Speaker 1: of the charges this Sunday.
- 0:48Speaker 3: I don't think any Jags fan wants to dwell on Sunday.
- 0:51Speaker 2: No, but we do have to talk about it. Yeah,
- 0:53Speaker 2: all right, A.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start. Shall I use
- 0:58Speaker 1: the word disappointing. I feel disappointing might be underregging it
- 1:01Speaker 1: a little bit.
- 1:02Speaker 3: But let's not overregg it. Let's I'd rather underregg.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Disappointing loss against the Houston Texans on Sunday. Key instant
- 1:11Speaker 1: reaction after the game, Jay.
- 1:13Speaker 3: You're not going to believe this Sunday night, all right.
- 1:16Speaker 3: So I had a long journey from Brighton to Margate
- 1:19Speaker 3: with the big one.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Big dog, right, the big dog, the daughter. Just to
- 1:24Speaker 2: be clear, yeah, literal, And I.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Was tired on Sunday night. So at the end of
- 1:28Speaker 3: the third quarter, I went to bed feeling safe and sound.
- 1:36Speaker 3: I woke up Monday morning and watched the fourth quarter.
- 1:40Speaker 3: The word disappointment. Unbelievable. Jay honestly went to bed feeling like,
- 1:47Speaker 3: there's no way, there's no way.
- 1:49Speaker 2: I didn't even consider a loss. That's nearly as.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Bad as a mate of mine that I was watching
- 1:54Speaker 1: the Falcon's Patriots Super Bowl. You know what happened in there.
- 1:58Speaker 1: You went to bed at halftime dreadful. It's as bad
- 2:01Speaker 1: as that.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Sometimes you wait and you cannot believe the turnaround that
- 2:06Speaker 3: has happened. We went from an incredible record last week
- 2:10Speaker 3: with Cam Little doing what he did, and this week
- 2:13Speaker 3: I'm going to say it was the biggest.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Collapse in Jags history.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Wow, it's definitely a huge definitely a huge loss.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I mean, look, let's just be clear.
- 2:23Speaker 1: They lost thirty six, said thirty six, twenty nine lost
- 2:27Speaker 1: against the Houston Texans twenty nine to ten up after
- 2:31Speaker 1: the third quarter, and that's twenty six points the Texans
- 2:34Speaker 1: scored in the fourth quarter. He's a good stat actually
- 2:36Speaker 1: that I am entering twenty twenty five. This isn't just
- 2:40Speaker 1: the Jags, but teams had lost one hundred and thirty
- 2:43Speaker 1: five consecutive games when trailing by fifteen plus points when
- 2:48Speaker 1: entering the fourth quarter, including playoffs. Okay, in twenty twenty
- 2:52Speaker 1: five so far there has been one, two, three, four
- 2:58Speaker 1: and with the Jags five times. Five times that's happened
- 3:03Speaker 1: just this season. I mean, if you're in neutral, that's unbelievable.
- 3:09Speaker 4: It is.
- 3:09Speaker 3: But if you're not as a fan, are we gonna go?
- 3:13Speaker 3: I mean, we'll talk to Jason about what happened. But what, dude,
- 3:16Speaker 3: the difference between the Jags team that played the Texans
- 3:19Speaker 3: this Sunday compared to the first game against the Texans
- 3:23Speaker 3: earlier this season.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Well, there wasn't.
- 3:25Speaker 1: There wasn't a ton of offense in this whole game,
- 3:27Speaker 1: and I think it was slightly misleading when you're twenty nine,
- 3:30Speaker 1: you know, twenty nine to ten up after the third quarter.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Not a ton of offense. It was great special teams plays.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Parker Washington had another good game. Michael Washington had another.
- 3:42Speaker 1: It was good defensive plays as well, and then it
- 3:45Speaker 1: comes down to early on you're right, and Davis Mills
- 3:49Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter just deciding that he wanted it happen.
- 3:51Speaker 3: No is Davis Mills running a fourteen yard How is
- 3:55Speaker 3: that happening?
- 3:56Speaker 2: Again? How is how?
- 3:58Speaker 1: There's loads of things that we can say that when
- 4:00Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And what I just want to
- 4:01Speaker 1: point out as well is it is such a shame
- 4:05Speaker 1: because we could be talking about got away with one
- 4:08Speaker 1: there because right at the death, right at the death,
- 4:11Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, who didn't have a great fourth quarter whatsoever,
- 4:16Speaker 1: he turns it on twenty yard dash for a first down.
- 4:21Speaker 1: He then manages to get the ball to Parker Washington
- 4:24Speaker 1: again on the sideline to put Cam Little and there
- 4:27Speaker 1: or thereabouts field goal range. And we know that he's
- 4:29Speaker 1: got a massive leg of course, as we saw you
- 4:32Speaker 1: know last week, and then a penalty, a penalty brings
- 4:37Speaker 1: it back, which means there's seven seconds left, you know,
- 4:40Speaker 1: on the board, and it is you know, at that point,
- 4:45Speaker 1: it would have been a miracle for the Jags to
- 4:48Speaker 1: get back into it with no timeouts as well. So yeah,
- 4:51Speaker 1: very disappointing. Let's look at the positive still a winning
- 4:55Speaker 1: record five and four. Yeah, we're still in the right
- 4:59Speaker 1: absolutely definitely not And I think that the obvious disappointing
- 5:02Speaker 1: aspect of this is that you were seconds away, essentially
- 5:05Speaker 1: from being six and three, which would have been a
- 5:08Speaker 1: really good record, especially considering the disappointing season last year,
- 5:12Speaker 1: especially considering Liam Cohen's first year as head coachings Gladstone's
- 5:16Speaker 1: you know, first year as GM, as well as with.
- 5:18Speaker 3: No divisional matchups can make such a big difference when
- 5:20Speaker 3: it comes and it's.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Going to be so difficult and you know you'd only
- 5:24Speaker 1: you've been you know, they're thereabouts. With Indianapolis Colts, it
- 5:27Speaker 1: looks slightly more difficult, albeit there's still two games to
- 5:30Speaker 1: play against them in the rest of the season.
- 5:32Speaker 3: So jay I was looking ahead in the schedule to
- 5:36Speaker 3: who we've got and who the Colts have got, and
- 5:38Speaker 3: if you frame it a certain way, that we're like,
- 5:42Speaker 3: we're still very much in that race because the Colts
- 5:44Speaker 3: have actually got quite a difficult few weeks coming up.
- 5:48Speaker 3: They've got the Chiefs, they've got the Seahawks, so they've
- 5:52Speaker 3: got and then we've got teams like the Jets and
- 5:55Speaker 3: the Cardinals, so there's a chance to pull something back.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Yes, forty nine Ers, Seahawks, Chiefs divisional games of course
- 6:05Speaker 1: as well for the Colts as well.
- 6:07Speaker 2: So it's not done. I want to be clear. I'll
- 6:09Speaker 2: be extremely clear. This season is far from done.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I'm excited to speak to Jason as well in a
- 6:16Speaker 1: few minutes time, because as much as I would love
- 6:19Speaker 1: to say that I have insight of what it's like
- 6:22Speaker 1: to be an NFL player in a locker room after
- 6:25Speaker 1: a loss like this, I don't.
- 6:29Speaker 2: I know breaking downs.
- 6:30Speaker 3: I've been in a locker room after a loss like that,
- 6:34Speaker 3: in an NFL locker room, but I wasn't an NFL player.
- 6:39Speaker 3: In fact, I will just say I felt inferior.
- 6:42Speaker 1: So I'm excited to speak to him because he'll be
- 6:44Speaker 1: able to give us a little bit more insight and
- 6:45Speaker 1: another and you know, I want to be clear as
- 6:47Speaker 1: well because c J. Stroud didn't play in this game
- 6:48Speaker 1: against the Texans. As you know, we mentioned that Davis
- 6:51Speaker 1: Mills turned it on in the fourth quarter, but that's
- 6:53Speaker 1: the second time this year that the Jacks have been
- 6:55Speaker 1: beaten by backup quarterback Jake Browning with the Bengals on
- 6:59Speaker 1: this year as well.
- 7:00Speaker 3: But there were lots of positives to take from it.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Like you say, Parker Washington, absolutely fantastic. I feel like
- 7:06Speaker 3: we're back to relying on cam littor knowing that if
- 7:09Speaker 3: we can drive a certain way down the field, we've
- 7:11Speaker 3: got that to rely on. That's fantastic. And I think
- 7:15Speaker 3: you you can only I mean, we'll talk to Jason
- 7:19Speaker 3: and we'll see what coach Cohen said later, but you
- 7:21Speaker 3: can only ask questions and provide answers now. So it
- 7:26Speaker 3: can only be and I think I mean Chargers is
- 7:29Speaker 3: a touch Aamer.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk more about the charges with Jason and
- 7:32Speaker 1: we can get into that a little bit further. We
- 7:36Speaker 1: are still in the if the season with at end today,
- 7:40Speaker 1: still in the playoffs, just saying still in the playoffs.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Got that wild card spot, got that world card spot.
- 7:47Speaker 1: The Chiefs on the same record as well, five and four,
- 7:50Speaker 1: Texans at four and five behind that, so look still
- 7:55Speaker 1: in there.
- 7:57Speaker 3: Just this team can play well. They can play well,
- 8:02Speaker 3: but it's not happening consistently enough.
- 8:04Speaker 2: It needs to, is what we said before.
- 8:06Speaker 1: To take absolutely that's what we said before, and we'll
- 8:08Speaker 1: put a ball on It's what we've said before and
- 8:11Speaker 1: this is a cliche. All three phases need to fire
- 8:15Speaker 1: to be a good NFL team, and they need to
- 8:17Speaker 1: do it regularly.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Okay, do you feel better? Just do you know, feel
- 8:22Speaker 2: a bit more? Was that cathartic?
- 8:24Speaker 5: No?
- 8:24Speaker 3: I need Jason.
- 8:25Speaker 1: You need Jason to put a positive spin on it,
- 8:28Speaker 1: or to give us his hype man speech. All right, perfect,
- 8:30Speaker 1: all right, j Bell, enter the podcast.
- 8:35Speaker 4: J Bell, you're good, good man, we got football. Everything's good.
- 8:39Speaker 6: It's a difficult week to week, but this is the
- 8:41Speaker 6: ride we put ourselves on. Right, It's the roller coaster
- 8:43Speaker 6: we signed up for this. Emotion, ups, the downs, all
- 8:48Speaker 6: of it. It's it's a part of the process. It's
- 8:50Speaker 6: why we are all fans and we love the game.
- 8:52Speaker 1: We'll speaking of emotion, let's play a little bit of
- 8:55Speaker 1: coach Cohen, who had this to say out that loss
- 9:01Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans.
- 9:03Speaker 4: You know, this game can't beat us again.
- 9:06Speaker 7: It can't beat us on Sunday at one pm because
- 9:10Speaker 7: we're kicking off against the Chargers. I have a very
- 9:12Speaker 7: quality opponent coming into town. We're back at you know,
- 9:15Speaker 7: we're at home.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Nothing.
- 9:17Speaker 7: You know, nobody cares. Nobody cares. It's just the next
- 9:20Speaker 7: opportunity that we have try to get a w I mean,
- 9:24Speaker 7: that's the reality is that we gave up a nineteen
- 9:26Speaker 7: point lead in the fourth quarter essentially.
- 9:28Speaker 4: And didn't get it done.
- 9:29Speaker 7: Their back was against the wall and they played like it.
- 9:33Speaker 7: You know, they played like it and we didn't. And
- 9:36Speaker 7: so you know, it's hard. It's hard to move forward.
- 9:39Speaker 7: But come Wednesday, we're preparing for another opponent when the
- 9:43Speaker 7: players get it back in the building. We got to
- 9:45Speaker 7: get this tape fixed and corrected and moved on. But
- 9:48Speaker 7: you know, I'm not worried about losing the team by
- 9:52Speaker 7: any means. There's maybe a few guys that can you know,
- 9:57Speaker 7: get some more opportunities at different peace, you know, a
- 10:00Speaker 7: positions that you know, rotating guys in keeping rushers fresh
- 10:06Speaker 7: and utilize some of the personnel that we do have
- 10:09Speaker 7: to be able to create.
- 10:12Speaker 5: What is your personality more challenge these guys go at
- 10:15Speaker 5: them more aggressively this week after something like that, or
- 10:18Speaker 5: is it more you know, hey, move on kind of thing.
- 10:21Speaker 5: What's the way that you would like to have an
- 10:24Speaker 5: approach to you as a player.
- 10:26Speaker 7: Kind of went at it both ways in the team
- 10:29Speaker 7: meeting today in terms of guys like nobody cares. At
- 10:33Speaker 7: the end of the day, guys were kicking off on
- 10:35Speaker 7: Sunday against the Chargers, not playing the Texans again, and
- 10:40Speaker 7: we can't relive the moment. We can't change anything about
- 10:43Speaker 7: the outcome of yesterday. It sucks, it's brutal. But this
- 10:47Speaker 7: is the league. This is the NFL, the real adversity,
- 10:51Speaker 7: the real response to gut wrenching, tough losses like this.
- 10:57Speaker 7: Everything is in front of us, Like, we have every
- 11:00Speaker 7: opportunity to go win this week, Like that's all that matters.
- 11:04Speaker 4: We got to win this week. Look, you live around
- 11:06Speaker 4: the league. I mean, look at all.
- 11:07Speaker 7: These games, right, I mean teams are winning then they
- 11:09Speaker 7: end up losing at the end, and teams are losing
- 11:10Speaker 7: they end up winning in the end.
- 11:11Speaker 4: It's just it's who.
- 11:13Speaker 7: Makes a play. We won three quarters of the game, Like,
- 11:17Speaker 7: let's be honest, right, we won three quarters, we didn't
- 11:19Speaker 7: win the fourth and they did and they ended up
- 11:23Speaker 7: winning the game.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Okay, coach, coming that, Jabow, what's your take on that?
- 11:30Speaker 6: So coaching is an art not only in play calling,
- 11:34Speaker 6: but handling personalities, emotion, the environment of your team.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Right, Sometimes it's raining, sometimes it's snowing. Sometimes it's sunny outside.
- 11:43Speaker 4: You have to manage that. And great coaches understand you
- 11:48Speaker 4: can't let a loss roller coaster, like we were saying
- 11:52Speaker 4: into more, how do you do that?
- 11:55Speaker 6: How do you speak to your team? What are the
- 11:58Speaker 6: words you say? The first thing and the first opportunity
- 12:01Speaker 6: you have to speak to your team is in the media.
- 12:06Speaker 6: What you say to the media, players know and if
- 12:11Speaker 6: you are you have an optimistic point of view, well
- 12:16Speaker 6: they'll understand how you feel about them. And then you
- 12:19Speaker 6: come in the meeting and you say, fellas, this is
- 12:23Speaker 6: who we are, and you show them the positives. You say, hey,
- 12:27Speaker 6: you know this game comes down to the margins. Where
- 12:30Speaker 6: are those at? How do we lose those margins? These
- 12:34Speaker 6: are correctable things. Do not give up hope on yourself
- 12:38Speaker 6: or us or what we're doing, the process, the procedures,
- 12:42Speaker 6: how we go about our business, because look at how
- 12:45Speaker 6: close we are. You have to understand that flips say
- 12:50Speaker 6: you win that game, and say you make all those mistakes.
- 12:54Speaker 6: Then you come in and you like, look how close
- 12:57Speaker 6: we could have lost, and you coach them harder because
- 13:00Speaker 6: that you you on a you on that nice edge
- 13:04Speaker 6: and you want to say, hey, we could have been
- 13:05Speaker 6: on the other side of this, but you have to
- 13:08Speaker 6: understand the climate, and that is the art of coaching.
- 13:11Speaker 6: So he knows. He's got to say we are on
- 13:14Speaker 6: this path together. We are right there. We just need
- 13:18Speaker 6: to fine tune some things. But I believe in you.
- 13:21Speaker 6: Please believe in us. And that's an important message to
- 13:25Speaker 6: give them the energy to go about their business this week. Reset,
- 13:29Speaker 6: start the engines.
- 13:30Speaker 2: And go so JBO.
- 13:32Speaker 3: As a player, did you ever have that experience where
- 13:35Speaker 3: a fourth quarter you've got a comfortable lead and then
- 13:37Speaker 3: the team start coming back your your opposition start coming
- 13:41Speaker 3: back at you.
- 13:42Speaker 2: What's that like?
- 13:43Speaker 6: Not at that level? I mean that was that was
- 13:46Speaker 6: that was That was tough. But yes, I've seen it
- 13:48Speaker 6: happen a lot. I've been in games where we barely
- 13:52Speaker 6: pulled it out at the end and you come back
- 13:55Speaker 6: in and you start to see where you relaxed like anything.
- 13:59Speaker 4: You know.
- 14:00Speaker 6: The reason we like fight sports is it doesn't matter right.
- 14:03Speaker 6: We like the heavyweights because a guy can be getting
- 14:06Speaker 6: beat or a girl regardless of what you're watching.
- 14:08Speaker 4: And and that last round you could get knocked out.
- 14:13Speaker 6: You can get knocked out. They go in the corner
- 14:15Speaker 6: like swing for the fences.
- 14:17Speaker 4: This is it.
- 14:17Speaker 6: You know, you can't let off the gas, whether it's
- 14:21Speaker 6: defense or offense. Now you have to take responsibility as
- 14:25Speaker 6: a player. But also the play calling comes into that.
- 14:28Speaker 6: You see a lot of times coaches get conservative, they
- 14:31Speaker 6: change what they've been doing because the league of the circumstances,
- 14:34Speaker 6: and now they're doing something that lets the team back
- 14:38Speaker 6: in the game, and then they want to speed it
- 14:40Speaker 6: up and okay, let's go back to what we were doing
- 14:41Speaker 6: and we're all out of sorts.
- 14:43Speaker 4: So it's understanding that it's.
- 14:45Speaker 6: Why you don't you know, people talk about pulling starters
- 14:49Speaker 6: and let's put other players in, and that's why people
- 14:52Speaker 6: play the whole game. So there's a reason for that.
- 14:55Speaker 6: So yeah, I've seen it happen, and it's it's a
- 14:58Speaker 6: team game. So you see a lot different phases. Coaches, players,
- 15:02Speaker 6: all of that are responsible for those leagues going to nothing.
- 15:08Speaker 2: I'm just wondering how much pressure the players. I suppose
- 15:11Speaker 2: you could just say in general, but when it's games like.
- 15:13Speaker 1: This, how much pressure the players feel, and then how
- 15:16Speaker 1: much they feel, like, you know, after the game. I
- 15:19Speaker 1: think a good example is, obviously, I've never played in
- 15:21Speaker 1: the NFL, Jason.
- 15:26Speaker 4: You understand the game, you can speak on it.
- 15:30Speaker 1: A good example, I was thinking it wasn't relevant necessarily
- 15:32Speaker 1: in this game, but it looked like it could possibly be.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Is you know when you see the kickers warm up
- 15:38Speaker 1: on the side of the field, because it looks like
- 15:40Speaker 1: there's going to be like a game winning I mean.
- 15:42Speaker 2: We saw it, you know, sort of the week before,
- 15:44Speaker 2: I suppose.
- 15:45Speaker 1: But you know, the game winning field goal or you know,
- 15:48Speaker 1: right at the end of the half or something like that,
- 15:49Speaker 1: you see the kickers warm up.
- 15:50Speaker 2: It's like, I feel sick for them, do you know
- 15:53Speaker 2: what I mean?
- 15:54Speaker 6: I love as you say this, because this is why
- 15:57Speaker 6: we watch sports collectively together for that emotion. It's because
- 16:02Speaker 6: we all feel that wherever we are, whether we're in
- 16:05Speaker 6: the stands, on the sideline in the game, at home
- 16:07Speaker 6: watching it, we all feel that live together. It's real.
- 16:13Speaker 6: This is what makes sports fascinating unique. That being said,
- 16:19Speaker 6: when we look at the game and we evaluate those moments,
- 16:23Speaker 6: we know how we feel.
- 16:24Speaker 4: I feel the same way.
- 16:26Speaker 6: This is when the greats come out. This is why
- 16:29Speaker 6: we wear their jerseys. This is why we celebrate them
- 16:32Speaker 6: because the way they manage those emotions. We look at
- 16:37Speaker 6: them and we say we're in awe. We're like, how
- 16:41Speaker 6: did you take that and do that? You didn't even flinch?
- 16:46Speaker 6: It was like it was nothing, but I felt it
- 16:48Speaker 6: sitting on this couch with a drink.
- 16:50Speaker 4: In my hand, like what are we talking about here?
- 16:53Speaker 6: How are you able to manage all that and then
- 16:57Speaker 6: go perform at a high level? These are the greats,
- 17:00Speaker 6: and these are the ones we celebrate, and everybody's chasing that.
- 17:04Speaker 4: It's hard to do.
- 17:06Speaker 6: In my career, I can remember the moments where I
- 17:08Speaker 6: was like that and it's not a lot, It was
- 17:11Speaker 6: more that weren't And because of that, the ones we
- 17:15Speaker 6: talk about the Hall of Famers in those moments, my goodness,
- 17:20Speaker 6: the colme, the clarity, the focus, the intent. It's why
- 17:26Speaker 6: we celebrate them and it's why we criticize too.
- 17:29Speaker 4: It's hard to do that. That's not easy.
- 17:32Speaker 6: Like, let's be real, we're gonna always talk about it
- 17:36Speaker 6: after the game, but when you do fall out in
- 17:40Speaker 6: those moments, we'll sing your praise.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Jabell, just just quickly, if you had to put a
- 17:45Speaker 3: percentage on mental against physical in our sports, what would
- 17:50Speaker 3: you what would you say? The percentage divide bearers.
- 17:54Speaker 6: So that's really, I will say during the game. I
- 17:57Speaker 6: mean it's it's sixty forty mental, you know. But that's
- 18:01Speaker 6: because to get there, you're so athletically gifted, like you
- 18:06Speaker 6: know what I mean, like everybody on the.
- 18:08Speaker 4: Field, so.
- 18:11Speaker 6: So you know, and the guys that are really I mean,
- 18:15Speaker 6: it's crazy. When you see somebody do something extraordinary, you
- 18:18Speaker 6: think they're doing it against the best athletes on the planet.
- 18:21Speaker 6: You're like, oh my god, there made somebody that's amazing. Look,
- 18:26Speaker 6: you know, amateur crazy, right, But on the field it
- 18:30Speaker 6: is mental because even though you have the athletic prowess,
- 18:34Speaker 6: it's the conversations you have in your head. What are
- 18:38Speaker 6: you saying to yourself? How are you taking this information right?
- 18:42Speaker 6: Because before the snap, you might be a better athlete
- 18:45Speaker 6: than me.
- 18:46Speaker 4: But if I.
- 18:46Speaker 6: Understand and I've studied the way where I'm eliminating threats,
- 18:50Speaker 6: well there's two things you can do, and I'm playing
- 18:53Speaker 6: these two things. I've seen it before, Like guys operate
- 18:56Speaker 6: like a computer processor. The best players I've been around
- 18:59Speaker 6: the way they see the game and can break it
- 19:01Speaker 6: down and articulate it.
- 19:02Speaker 4: In live action. Coming from the sideline is crazy.
- 19:06Speaker 6: They don't come out till the coach, Hey, this guy
- 19:08Speaker 6: did this, this that this is moved here.
- 19:11Speaker 4: Boom boom boom.
- 19:11Speaker 6: They're doing this and it's like the coaches know who
- 19:14Speaker 6: they talk they can talk to, because some guys come
- 19:16Speaker 6: off and they can't even get it out. You know,
- 19:19Speaker 6: they might be able to see it, but they can't
- 19:20Speaker 6: articulate it. So it is mental and especially as the
- 19:23Speaker 6: game progresses, because what are the counters, what have you
- 19:26Speaker 6: done different? What does it look like? What is today?
- 19:29Speaker 6: What have you not done? Where is my weakness? You know,
- 19:33Speaker 6: where's the plays weakness? All that in twenty seconds.
- 19:39Speaker 1: So there you go.
- 19:40Speaker 3: It's only forty percent physical. You've definitely got a chance.
- 19:43Speaker 6: You can't. I told you, I told you what it
- 19:45Speaker 6: takes to get in there. You know what I'm saying.
- 19:47Speaker 6: Your credit isn't high enough. You can't even participate. That's
- 19:50Speaker 6: the big table. You come in at the big table
- 19:52Speaker 6: to gamble, They're like, nah, you're living too low.
- 19:54Speaker 4: You got to go.
- 19:55Speaker 6: So no, yeah, yeah, don't don't start getting false hope. Man,
- 19:59Speaker 6: I don't want to do your life that bro.
- 20:01Speaker 2: I just want to be clear, Jason. I never had
- 20:03Speaker 2: false hope.
- 20:03Speaker 1: But the fact that you just you just told me
- 20:05Speaker 1: that I shouldn't have false hope just makes me feel worse.
- 20:08Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to say.
- 20:09Speaker 4: You are good at what you're good at. You you know,
- 20:12Speaker 4: you got a good lane and you dominate. Okay, keep that,
- 20:17Speaker 4: Keep that, my brother. It's hard to be good at something,
- 20:20Speaker 4: all right.
- 20:20Speaker 1: All that, I feel like this is weirdly turned into
- 20:24Speaker 1: a like a you know when somebody like makes it
- 20:27Speaker 1: sound like they're complimenting you, but they're actually just putting
- 20:30Speaker 1: you down.
- 20:30Speaker 2: That's what that felt like. That's what that felt like.
- 20:33Speaker 6: And I'm just so up depressed about this game that
- 20:36Speaker 6: I just want to keep talking in service.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Jason, let's do this.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Then we'll talk about how we beat the Chargers and
- 20:42Speaker 1: get back on track in a moment of course as well,
- 20:45Speaker 1: you know what happened in the fourth quarter on Sunday.
- 20:48Speaker 1: But first, which jagged player are you giving the game
- 20:51Speaker 1: ball from that game?
- 20:53Speaker 4: Man?
- 20:53Speaker 1: Does?
- 20:53Speaker 4: Does Parker Washington just keep delivering?
- 20:55Speaker 2: Amen?
- 20:56Speaker 8: I mean straight, My Man's is a highlight film. He's
- 21:02Speaker 8: a I mean, he's gonna be one of those guys
- 21:05Speaker 8: that every fan remembers for the rest of their life.
- 21:08Speaker 4: He's just got plays Man, he's just just makes it happen. Man.
- 21:12Speaker 6: You know, obviously I love anything that happens on special teams,
- 21:16Speaker 6: but the splash plays are real.
- 21:18Speaker 4: He comes through.
- 21:19Speaker 6: He's gonna be an integral part of this team for
- 21:21Speaker 6: the future because of what he does.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Man. I do like.
- 21:26Speaker 6: Travesse etm. I do like a couple of the runs
- 21:29Speaker 6: he had. Man, But it's Parker.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Where was the game lost?
- 21:35Speaker 4: Man? You know it's lost in the fourth quarter, Man.
- 21:38Speaker 6: And the thing about the fourth quarters, that's where we're
- 21:40Speaker 6: evaluated because these games are always close. It usually comes
- 21:43Speaker 6: down to the last two minutes, right, That's why you
- 21:45Speaker 6: practice them.
- 21:46Speaker 4: It's all about execution.
- 21:48Speaker 6: And when you look at it, it was everybody participated.
- 21:51Speaker 6: That's the thing about it. Everybody participated. On offense, I
- 21:56Speaker 6: didn't like the rhythm. I didn't like to play calling,
- 21:59Speaker 6: and you know that's on everybody. Defensively, you know, when
- 22:03Speaker 6: you're supposed to have you've invested in your pass.
- 22:07Speaker 4: Rushers and I don't know if it's a fatigue thing
- 22:11Speaker 4: or whatever.
- 22:11Speaker 6: You're not closing out, you're not getting the pressure when
- 22:15Speaker 6: you need to, and then there's a lot of penalties, right,
- 22:17Speaker 6: and when you think about the penalties, that's on the coach.
- 22:20Speaker 6: That's a coaching thing. So they got to get that right.
- 22:23Speaker 6: So it's a discipline. You didn't have the pressure. I
- 22:25Speaker 6: didn't like to play calling. You know, those those will
- 22:27Speaker 6: always lose you the game.
- 22:30Speaker 2: What was the key moment or turning point that we
- 22:32Speaker 2: might have missed?
- 22:35Speaker 6: You talked about Cam Little not getting you know, not
- 22:37Speaker 6: getting a shot, but you know, I think I believe
- 22:44Speaker 6: it was he was a second or third in lawn
- 22:47Speaker 6: and Davis mills Man made a big throw and he
- 22:51Speaker 6: kind of kept the drive going. It was that thirteen
- 22:54Speaker 6: fourteen yard play drive and you just those are the moments,
- 22:57Speaker 6: you know, when you can't get off the field. I
- 22:58Speaker 6: always look at that when I'm looking at the game.
- 23:00Speaker 6: It's not the obvious enough. I'm thinking, that's your moment,
- 23:03Speaker 6: get off the field. That's when you got to do it,
- 23:06Speaker 6: and it didn't happen.
- 23:07Speaker 2: What needs to improve discipline?
- 23:11Speaker 6: Composure, you know, especially in those hawk tough moments.
- 23:15Speaker 4: That's a thing. You condition your body.
- 23:16Speaker 6: You gotta condition your mind, U head coach, quarterback, everybody's
- 23:22Speaker 6: got to look like they are composed and in control.
- 23:25Speaker 4: The past.
- 23:26Speaker 6: Rush has to upgrade, whether you know I heard in
- 23:29Speaker 6: the interview, whether it's bringing more guys in in a rotation,
- 23:34Speaker 6: whatever it takes, you definitely need to be fresher at
- 23:36Speaker 6: the end of the game when it's time to close out,
- 23:41Speaker 6: situational awareness, especially with the penalties. These are all things
- 23:44Speaker 6: you can fix, right Uh, these are things you can
- 23:47Speaker 6: emphasize during the week that that's that's that's what I
- 23:49Speaker 6: like about it. And you know once again that that
- 23:52Speaker 6: offensive rhythm has to get back.
- 23:54Speaker 4: In the flow.
- 23:55Speaker 2: And how do the Jags beat the charges?
- 23:59Speaker 6: Well, oh well, we're gonna definitely gonna have to finish
- 24:02Speaker 6: and drives, especially in the red zone. That's gonna be
- 24:04Speaker 6: the key. I mean, when you talk about it, you
- 24:06Speaker 6: really did. They got a great defense. So offensively, you
- 24:10Speaker 6: want to be able to control the tempo. You want
- 24:12Speaker 6: to get longer drives, keep justin Herbert off the field.
- 24:16Speaker 6: So go back to the running game, quick passing game,
- 24:20Speaker 6: things like that. You just want to get rhythm. That's
- 24:24Speaker 6: the key to this game. Getting a flow, make it early.
- 24:28Speaker 6: Those scripted plays they have to just flow and read
- 24:32Speaker 6: like a good book.
- 24:33Speaker 4: And you got to close out.
- 24:34Speaker 6: But in all honesty, there are some weeks where I'm like,
- 24:37Speaker 6: you have to make this about yourself. You really have
- 24:39Speaker 6: to make it about yourself. It has to be about you,
- 24:42Speaker 6: your identity all that because these pass rushes, I'm telling you,
- 24:46Speaker 6: against this offensive line, they got to get after justin
- 24:50Speaker 6: Herbert Man, he's down to like these tackles he's got
- 24:54Speaker 6: out there. Man, that's their weakness. You gotta attack this
- 24:57Speaker 6: offensive line. You gotta close out. It has to be
- 24:59Speaker 6: a big.
- 25:00Speaker 4: Game for them.
- 25:01Speaker 1: Oh, let's talk a little bit more about the charge
- 25:03Speaker 1: is actually who We've had a good season, They're a
- 25:05Speaker 1: good team. At one pm Sunday in Florida. How much
- 25:11Speaker 1: of a vital game for the Jags to win?
- 25:15Speaker 4: Is this huge game for them?
- 25:17Speaker 6: For the Jags and went, first of all, you you
- 25:19Speaker 6: cannot you can't lose too in a row man after
- 25:23Speaker 6: the way you you know, you crumbled in the fourth
- 25:25Speaker 6: quarter and you you you you could lose the locker
- 25:28Speaker 6: room in a sense, I mean, you know you don't,
- 25:31Speaker 6: you can you could lose hope, especially against this team.
- 25:33Speaker 6: You gotta go out and have a big time performance.
- 25:35Speaker 6: That's why it's so critical how they go about their
- 25:38Speaker 6: business this week and the head man being positive in
- 25:41Speaker 6: his approach really emphasizing that we have what it takes
- 25:45Speaker 6: in this organization to get it done.
- 25:48Speaker 4: You see, we're so close.
- 25:49Speaker 6: Let's just go execute, and in those moments, reminding themselves
- 25:54Speaker 6: in the game. Here we are, we talked about it,
- 25:57Speaker 6: this is the third down. Great teams have been on.
- 26:00Speaker 6: Those moments are discussed before. Hey, this is this is
- 26:03Speaker 6: what we talked about. Let's go, let's do it. And
- 26:05Speaker 6: I think that that needs to be the focus this
- 26:07Speaker 6: week once again, it needs to be about them.
- 26:10Speaker 3: How much of a difference does it make traveling across
- 26:13Speaker 3: the country because the charges are coming all the way
- 26:15Speaker 3: across the country, that's it. That's a huge journey. Does
- 26:19Speaker 3: that affect how they go into Sunday's game?
- 26:23Speaker 6: I think the data says that right for the West
- 26:26Speaker 6: Coast teams coming out there. So yes, Another thing is
- 26:29Speaker 6: just the weather, you know, humidity, whatever like that. It's
- 26:33Speaker 6: always different, especially when you talk about a team that
- 26:35Speaker 6: practices in southern California, right, different environment, very chill. So
- 26:40Speaker 6: you want a little humidity, you want a little you
- 26:43Speaker 6: need a little something on your side. So yeah, I
- 26:45Speaker 6: mean you're gonna always see how fast they start. But
- 26:48Speaker 6: nowadays teams are just so well aware of that. Man,
- 26:51Speaker 6: they're so focused on it, but truly it does impact them.
- 26:54Speaker 1: I just want to focus on I know you mentioned
- 26:56Speaker 1: the locker room there and saying how you know it
- 27:00Speaker 1: can't be another loss and all of that, but I
- 27:01Speaker 1: want to just maybe focus on the positive for a second.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Tell me, maybe from your experience as well, tell me
- 27:08Speaker 1: what a difference this would make, not actually just for
- 27:10Speaker 1: the players, but for the fans as well in mentality
- 27:13Speaker 1: if the Jags get that win against the Charges this weekend,
- 27:18Speaker 1: because I think that suddenly mentality flips from what we're saying.
- 27:23Speaker 2: You know, it's going on this week.
- 27:24Speaker 6: I mean, that's that is not even unique. Everything is
- 27:27Speaker 6: so weak the week in this league. Yeah, we come
- 27:29Speaker 6: on here, we have these conversations. Are it changes every week?
- 27:33Speaker 6: How we discuss players, how we discuss coaches.
- 27:37Speaker 4: Vibes, all of it.
- 27:38Speaker 6: That's why to your point earlier about how you feel
- 27:42Speaker 6: as a fan, it's the same thing. Yeah, it'll change
- 27:46Speaker 6: everything for the fans hope again, right, Yes, Hey we
- 27:48Speaker 6: bounce back, of course, that's why we'll be all locked.
- 27:51Speaker 4: In for the game. That's what makes it significant.
- 27:53Speaker 6: So many storylines, so many players that have to improve, coaches.
- 27:57Speaker 6: We're watching it all and we're going to evaluating. We're
- 28:01Speaker 6: gonna say, oh, this was something they needed to improve on.
- 28:04Speaker 6: That's fixed. Obviously a lot of pressures always on Trevor.
- 28:08Speaker 4: He takes the snap.
- 28:10Speaker 6: He's the quarterback, so a lot of it is going
- 28:12Speaker 6: to be on his play and how he manages himself
- 28:15Speaker 6: and that offense in the fourth quarter, whatever the situation
- 28:19Speaker 6: is in those moments. We are going to continue to
- 28:21Speaker 6: evaluate what Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence are doing because
- 28:25Speaker 6: that is where our focus is.
- 28:28Speaker 4: All right.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Predictions Mini chev Lawrence figurine up for grabs. No one
- 28:31Speaker 1: predicted what happened at the weekend, which is perhaps unsurprising.
- 28:37Speaker 1: It is still Jason seven, J six. Can you seem
- 28:41Speaker 1: to have lost points since last week? You're minus nine
- 28:46Speaker 1: at the moment. This week you're at four points somewhere
- 28:51Speaker 1: this week. The Chargers prediction key.
- 28:55Speaker 3: Thirty five thirty Jags.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Someone's going big scoring over here. J Bell. Hey, go on, wait,
- 29:05Speaker 2: you say.
- 29:07Speaker 3: The offense has the potential to dude, if you can
- 29:09Speaker 3: score and I know some of it was down to
- 29:11Speaker 3: special teams, but if you can score twenty nine points
- 29:13Speaker 3: against that Texans defense. This team can this team can
- 29:16Speaker 3: score points.
- 29:16Speaker 1: Man.
- 29:17Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going high, thirty five, thirty J Bell, that's.
- 29:21Speaker 4: A nice one. I'm going I'm going twenty eight, twenty one.
- 29:29Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm going for twenty one twenty nice one
- 29:34Speaker 1: point game, yeah, nice one point game.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Are they twenty one? Zip up?
- 29:39Speaker 3: Going into the fourth?
- 29:40Speaker 4: Oh my god?
- 29:41Speaker 2: Now twenty nothing down?
- 29:45Speaker 4: Better?
- 29:45Speaker 2: Better? Jay? All right?
- 29:49Speaker 1: J Bell, thank you so much, Thank you so much.
- 29:52Speaker 1: I'll see you see in a few days time.
- 29:53Speaker 6: Let's we're going to come back and we're going to
- 29:55Speaker 6: all celebrate our man. Trevor Lawrence just responding to the criticism,
- 30:00Speaker 6: looking confident, making it happen out there, and just delivering
- 30:04Speaker 6: a win, because that's what winners do.
- 30:06Speaker 2: The way you talk.
- 30:07Speaker 1: About Trevor Lawrence, I feel like at some point you're
- 30:09Speaker 1: going to get matching tattoos.
- 30:11Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
- 30:12Speaker 4: Just feeling like, you know, so the friendship is real.
- 30:15Speaker 4: I like him.
- 30:15Speaker 6: I root for him, you know, just I just wanted
- 30:19Speaker 6: to all work out and you know, he's got the makeup,
- 30:21Speaker 6: he's got the talent, just you know, put it all together.
- 30:24Speaker 6: It's tough, man, it is tough. It is not easy,
- 30:27Speaker 6: but hey, it's a wonderful job.
- 30:30Speaker 2: That's why there's only thirty two of them in.
- 30:32Speaker 4: The whole world, straight up, straight up.
- 30:36Speaker 1: But there's still time for me, Jay Belchers. We'll see
- 30:39Speaker 1: it here in a few days time.
- 30:40Speaker 4: They got video games.
- 30:41Speaker 2: You can do whatever you like.
- 30:43Speaker 4: You got it. You got all the freedom in the world.
- 30:45Speaker 1: All right, Oh, I go now, got thanks man, appreciate that.
- 30:51Speaker 2: That was good.
- 30:53Speaker 1: I was going to ask j Bell there if whose
- 30:56Speaker 1: favorite Lawrence was, but I didn't want to get my
- 30:58Speaker 1: feelings hurt.
- 31:00Speaker 4: Decided just not to ask.
- 31:01Speaker 2: We all know, we all know exactly. I just don't
- 31:03Speaker 2: scoop by that. Scoop by that.
- 31:05Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, j Do of our dispatches.
- 31:09Speaker 1: We were hoping to announce a potential watch party in December.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Plans still ongoing, so we are going to update you
- 31:15Speaker 1: on that as soon as we know more.
- 31:17Speaker 2: So you know, hopefully next week the worst.
- 31:19Speaker 3: Comes to the worst, I've got a big TV and
- 31:21Speaker 3: Margot everyone come around. International Fan of the Year is
- 31:26Speaker 3: still open for Jaguars fans to either apply themselves or
- 31:29Speaker 3: nominate a fan that they feel deserves not only the
- 31:31Speaker 3: title of International Fan of the year, but also a
- 31:34Speaker 3: fantastic trip to the twenty twenty six NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Fans can now.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Nominate themselves to represent their team as a twenty twenty
- 31:44Speaker 1: five NFL International Fan of the Year at NFL dot
- 31:48Speaker 1: com Slash Fan of the Year, and this is your
- 31:51Speaker 1: last chance to enter, because this is unbelievable prize, unbelievable prize,
- 31:54Speaker 1: unbelievable thing to say that you're an international Fan of
- 31:57Speaker 1: the Year as well. But the deadline is November the seventeenth,
- 32:01Speaker 1: so yeah, you literally have a few days to enter,
- 32:04Speaker 1: So get on at NFL dot com Slash Fan of
- 32:06Speaker 1: the Year.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I want to mention this.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Other thing as well, key because it's been reported. There's
- 32:11Speaker 1: nothing confirmed here and there's stipulations that would need to
- 32:14Speaker 1: happen and blah blah, blah blah would need a league approval,
- 32:17Speaker 1: but it's nice rumor and seventy five percent of owners
- 32:21Speaker 1: need to agree to this as well. But an Orlando
- 32:23Speaker 1: City Council member quoted on Jacksonville TV says that the
- 32:28Speaker 1: team has given the city confirmation it will play home
- 32:31Speaker 1: games there in twenty twenty seven. Of course, this is
- 32:35Speaker 1: when the stadium is going to be developed in Jacksonville,
- 32:38Speaker 1: so they can't play in the city that year. And
- 32:41Speaker 1: it's also the same year that the Jags are able
- 32:46Speaker 1: to play up to two games internationally as well. Key.
- 32:52Speaker 1: So looks like there's a possibility. And I know that
- 32:55Speaker 1: you know the thing blah blah blah blah blah. You know,
- 32:57Speaker 1: it's not confirmed and all of that, but it looks
- 32:58Speaker 1: like there is a possibility, think possibility that Jacksonville might
- 33:01Speaker 1: be playing in Orlando in twenty twenty seven.
- 33:04Speaker 3: I mean, it makes a certain amount of sense, doesn't it.
- 33:06Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's not that far away, similar weather,
- 33:09Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, not too far for the fans
- 33:12Speaker 3: to go. I've heard that actually, if that doesn't work out,
- 33:16Speaker 3: I've heard that Margate is very nice.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently apparently it's either it's either Orlando or Margate.
- 33:21Speaker 2: There we go.
- 33:21Speaker 3: That'd be amazing, it would be they both have similar
- 33:25Speaker 3: We have a stadium that has that has one terrace.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Margate Market.
- 33:30Speaker 1: So you've got I think in Orlando you've got Disneyland,
- 33:34Speaker 1: but in Margate you've got dream Land.
- 33:35Speaker 2: To say, there you go, go, Here we go, Here
- 33:38Speaker 2: we go.
- 33:38Speaker 1: All right, this has been Tiel Talk and association with Gallagher,
- 33:42Speaker 1: a shooting sharp production for Jacksonville, Jaguars UK and Ireland
- 33:47Speaker 1: Key Speaking a few days time.
- 33:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed this one this week despite a tough Sunday.
- 33:53Speaker 3: This was a fun one.
- 33:55Speaker 2: You don't enjoy it usually, is that what you're employing?
- 33:56Speaker 1: Then?
- 33:58Speaker 3: Did sound like that, didn't it? That's no, that's not
- 34:00Speaker 3: and I'm saying I always love.
- 34:01Speaker 1: It, good terifying. All Right, we'll be back in a
- 34:04Speaker 1: few days time. Remember if you haven't seen loads of stuff,
- 34:09Speaker 1: loads of stuff over on the Jankuars UK YouTube.
- 34:13Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing on their cute?
- 34:15Speaker 3: Do you know what people sugar if they haven't seen it.
- 34:17Speaker 3: Parker Washington had a standout game on Sunday. Go and
- 34:21Speaker 3: watch Parker Washington's bits on the YouTube channel or they're excellent.
- 34:25Speaker 2: Is this where he's teaching rees how to field a punt?
- 34:29Speaker 3: I'm going to say, attempting to teach Reese? Okay, He's like,
- 34:33Speaker 3: do you know what, Parker Washington has a fantastic career
- 34:36Speaker 3: ahead of him as a player and then definitely has
- 34:38Speaker 3: a career as a coach as well.
- 34:39Speaker 2: All Right, that's on the Januars.
- 34:42Speaker 4: Right now, as.
- 34:43Speaker 1: I say this has been till Talking Association mc gallagher
- 34:45Speaker 1: shooting sharp production for Jacksonville, Jankuars, UK and Ireland.
- 34:48Speaker 2: I we'll see you in a few days time.