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Fear And Faith Are The Same Thing — And Belief Means Be Love | Astrology Ride of the Day · I Am Astrology Readings Podcast with Paul Heath

• 0:07
  I
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  have
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  an
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  episode
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  called
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  I
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  Believe,
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  and
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  at
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  the
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  end
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  of
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  this
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  episode,
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  I
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  say,
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  God
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  is
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  pure
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  love
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  energy.
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  Yes.
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  So.
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  Yes,
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  100
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  and
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  that.
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  So
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  I.
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  When
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  I
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  come
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  out
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  of
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  the
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  church,
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  my
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  wife
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  and
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  I.
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  This
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  was
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  really
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  interesting
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  because,
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  man,
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  when
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  I.
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  It
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  was
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  so
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  bad.
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  The.
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  The
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  local
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  newspaper,
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  when
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  I
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  tell
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  you
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  I
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  was.
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  I
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  was
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  a
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  hometown
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  hero
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  in
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  this
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  town,
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  and
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  the
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  local
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  newspaper
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  had
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  followed
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  me
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  around
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  and
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  my
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  ministry
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  for
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  12
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  weeks
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  and
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  did
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  headlines,
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  like
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  front
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  page
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  headlines
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  on
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  my
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  ministry
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  for
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  12
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  solid
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  weeks.
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  So
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  I
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  became
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  very
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  good
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  friends
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  with
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  the
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  editor
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  of
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  the
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  newspaper.
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  And
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  right
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  after
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  that,
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  everybody
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  knew
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  who
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  I
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  was.
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  I
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  was
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  on
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  the
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  news
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  a
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  lot.
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  I
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  worked
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  with
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  the
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  local.
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  I
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  worked
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  with
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  the
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  mayor
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  and
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  the
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  police
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  department
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  and
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  all
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  sorts
• 1:00
  of
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  things.
• 1:00
  So
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  I
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  was
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  in
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  the
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  news
• 1:02
  a
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  lot.
• 1:02
  And
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  so
• 1:03
  everybody
• 1:03
  knew
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  my
• 1:04
  face.
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  They
• 1:04
  knew
• 1:04
  who
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  I
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  was.
• 1:05
  I
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  had
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  broken
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  a
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  ceiling
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  in
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  Mississippi.
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  I
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  was
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  a.
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  I
• 1:08
  was
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  a
• 1:08
  woman
• 1:09
  pastor.
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  That
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  was
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  unheard
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  of.
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  I
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  did
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  it,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  I
• 1:12
  did
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  that.
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  And
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  people,
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  you
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  know,
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  saw
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  me
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  as
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  a
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  hero
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  of
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  sorts,
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  right,
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  Because
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  I
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  did
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  all
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  this
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  work
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  with
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  drug
• 1:18
  addicts
• 1:19
  and
• 1:19
  gang
• 1:19
  members
• 1:19
  and
• 1:20
  all
• 1:20
  this
• 1:20
  stuff.
• 1:21
  So
• 1:22
  the
• 1:22
  editor
• 1:23
  of
• 1:23
  the
• 1:23
  newspaper
• 1:24
  was
• 1:24
  really
• 1:24
  good
• 1:24
  friends
• 1:24
  with
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  me.
• 1:25
  And
• 1:25
  he.
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  After
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  I
• 1:26
  left
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  the
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  church,
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  he
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  called
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  me
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  and
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  he
• 1:28
  said.
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  He
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  said,
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  pastor
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  Brandon,
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  what's
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  going
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  on?
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  I'm.
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  I'm
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  seeing
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  all
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  of
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  this
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  on
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  social
• 1:34
  media
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  and
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  I'm
• 1:35
  seeing
• 1:35
  all
• 1:35
  these.
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  He
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  said,
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  what's
• 1:36
  happening?
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  And
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  I.
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  He
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  came
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  by
• 1:39
  my
• 1:39
  wife's
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  gym
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  and
• 1:40
  sat
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  down
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  and
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  talked
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  to
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  me.
• 1:41
  And
• 1:41
  I
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  told
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  him
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  what
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  happened.
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  And
• 1:42
  he
• 1:42
  said,
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  do
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  you
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  want
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  me
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  to
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  expose
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  this?
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  And
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  he
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  was
• 1:45
  going
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  to
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  write
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  a
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  story
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  about
• 1:46
  it.
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  And
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  I
• 1:46
  said,
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  no,
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  no,
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  I
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  don't
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  want
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  to
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  hurt
• 1:48
  the
• 1:48
  church.
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  You
• 1:49
  know,
• 1:50
  I
• 1:50
  built
• 1:50
  that
• 1:50
  ministry.
• 1:51
  I
• 1:51
  want
• 1:51
  that
• 1:51
  ministry.
• 1:52
  And
• 1:52
  the
• 1:52
  ministry
• 1:52
  is
• 1:52
  still
• 1:52
  going.
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  It's.
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  It's
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  blown
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  up.
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  It's
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  huge.
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  They,
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  you
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  know,
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  they're
• 1:57
  still.
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  It's
• 1:57
  still
• 1:57
  going.
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  They
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  erase
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  my
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  name
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  from
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  it.
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  I
• 1:59
  was
• 1:59
  about
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  to
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  erase
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  my
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  name.
• 2:01
  Do
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  you.
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  Do
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  they
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  give
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  you
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  your
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  credit?
• 2:03
  They
• 2:04
  do
• 2:04
  not.
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  It's.
• 2:05
  They
• 2:06
  took
• 2:06
  my
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  name
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  completely
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  off
• 2:07
  of
• 2:07
  it.
• 2:08
  So.
• 2:08
  But
• 2:08
  anyway,
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  he
• 2:08
  called
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  me
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  and
• 2:09
  he
• 2:09
  said,
• 2:09
  what's
• 2:10
  going
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  on?
• 2:10
  And
• 2:10
  I
• 2:10
  told
• 2:10
  him.
• 2:11
  And
• 2:11
  then
• 2:12
  a
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  few
• 2:12
  months
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  later,
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  he
• 2:15
  called
• 2:15
  me
• 2:15
  and
• 2:15
  he
• 2:16
  said,
• 2:16
  hey,
• 2:17
  we
• 2:17
  need
• 2:17
  to
• 2:17
  talk
• 2:17
  to
• 2:18
  you
• 2:18
  for
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  a
• 2:18
  second.
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  And
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  I
• 2:19
  said,
• 2:19
  okay.
• 2:19
  He
• 2:20
  said,
• 2:20
  there's
• 2:20
  somebody
• 2:21
  from
• 2:21
  Showtime
• 2:22
  that
• 2:22
  needs
• 2:22
  to
• 2:22
  talk
• 2:22
  to
• 2:23
  you.
• 2:23
  And
• 2:23
  I
• 2:23
  said,
• 2:24
  I'm
• 2:25
  sorry.
• 2:25
  He
• 2:26
  said,
• 2:26
  yes.
• 2:27
  He
• 2:27
  said,
• 2:27
  can
• 2:27
  I
• 2:28
  give
• 2:28
  them
• 2:28
  your
• 2:28
  contact
• 2:29
  information?
• 2:29
  And
• 2:30
  I
• 2:30
  said,
• 2:30
  yes,
• 2:31
  you
• 2:31
  can.
• 2:32
  And
• 2:32
  so
• 2:33
  they
• 2:33
  contacted
• 2:34
  me
• 2:34
  and
• 2:35
  heard
• 2:35
  my
• 2:35
  story,
• 2:37
  and
• 2:37
  they
• 2:37
  were
• 2:37
  in
• 2:37
  my
• 2:38
  living
• 2:38
  room
• 2:38
  one
• 2:38
  week
• 2:39
  later.
• 2:39
  L
• 2:40
  Word,
• 2:40
  Ms.
• 2:42
  l
• 2:42
  Word
• 2:43
  on
• 2:43
  Showtime
• 2:44
  was
• 2:44
  doing
• 2:45
  a
• 2:45
  documentary,
• 2:46
  and
• 2:46
  they
• 2:46
  wanted
• 2:46
  to
• 2:47
  do
• 2:47
  a
• 2:47
  documentary
• 2:48
  about
• 2:48
  real
• 2:48
  life
• 2:49
  lesbians
• 2:50
  living
• 2:50
  in
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  world.
• 2:51
  And
• 2:51
  so
• 2:52
  they
• 2:52
  got
• 2:52
  mine.
• 2:52
  They'd
• 2:53
  been
• 2:53
  trying
• 2:53
  to
• 2:54
  cast
• 2:54
  this
• 2:55
  documentary
• 2:56
  for
• 2:56
  four
• 2:57
  years.
• 2:57
  They
• 2:57
  had
• 2:58
  not
• 2:58
  been
• 2:58
  able
• 2:58
  to
• 2:58
  find.
• 2:59
  Four
• 2:59
  years.
• 3:00
  They
• 3:00
  found
• 3:01
  me
• 3:01
  and
• 3:01
  Susan.
• 3:02
  And
• 3:02
  within.
• 3:03
  Just,
• 3:03
  within
• 3:04
  weeks,
• 3:04
  we
• 3:05
  started
• 3:05
  filming
• 3:05
  the
• 3:05
  whole
• 3:06
  documentary
• 3:06
  and.
• 3:07
  Go
• 3:07
  ahead.
• 3:08
  When
• 3:08
  did
• 3:09
  you.
• 3:09
  Well,
• 3:12
  when
• 3:12
  did
• 3:12
  you
• 3:13
  leave
• 3:13
  your
• 3:13
  husband?
• 3:14
  When
• 3:14
  did
• 3:14
  that
• 3:15
  relationship.
• 3:16
  We
• 3:16
  left.
• 3:17
  I
• 3:17
  left.
• 3:17
  I
• 3:18
  left
• 3:18
  the
• 3:18
  church
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  my
• 3:18
  husband
• 3:19
  in
• 3:19
  2011.
• 3:20
  Like,
• 3:20
  that
• 3:20
  was.
• 3:20
  I
• 3:21
  left
• 3:21
  both.
• 3:22
  All
• 3:22
  right.
• 3:22
  Yes,
• 3:23
  Yes,
• 3:23
  I
• 3:23
  love.
• 3:24
  And
• 3:25
  how
• 3:25
  old
• 3:25
  were
• 3:25
  you?
• 3:26
  I
• 3:27
  was
• 3:28
  30.
• 3:33
  30.
• 3:36
  I
• 3:36
  don't
• 3:36
  know.
• 3:36
  2011.
• 3:37
  I
• 3:37
  was
• 3:37
  30.
• 3:38
  Something.
• 3:38
  38.
• 3:38
  Maybe.
• 3:39
  Maybe
• 3:39
  38.
• 3:40
  Yeah,
• 3:41
  maybe.
• 3:41
  No,
• 3:41
  no.
• 3:42
  28.
• 3:42
  2000.
• 3:45
  You
• 3:45
  see?
• 3:45
  2011.
• 3:46
  2011.
• 3:47
  Yeah.
• 3:47
  I
• 3:47
  was
• 3:48
  born
• 3:48
  in
• 3:48
  74.
• 3:48
  You
• 3:49
  do
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  math.
• 3:49
  That's
• 3:49
  not
• 3:49
  my
• 3:50
  ministry.
• 3:50
  Tell
• 3:51
  you.
• 3:52
  2011.
• 3:54
  You.
• 3:55
  37.
• 3:56
  37.
• 3:57
  Okay,
• 3:58
  okay.
• 3:59
  Yeah,
• 3:59
  I
• 3:59
  was
• 3:59
  37.
• 4:00
  And
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  didn't,
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  didn't
• 4:02
  leave
• 4:03
  until
• 4:03
  2012.
• 4:05
  So
• 4:05
  I
• 4:06
  left
• 4:06
  in
• 4:06
  June
• 4:06
  of
• 4:06
  2012.
• 4:07
  If
• 4:07
  I
• 4:07
  remember
• 4:08
  correctly.
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  met
• 4:09
  Susan
• 4:10
  in
• 4:10
  2011.
• 4:11
  I
• 4:11
  left
• 4:11
  in
• 4:11
  2012.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:14
  so
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  did
• 4:17
  this
• 4:17
  documentary.
• 4:18
  We
• 4:18
  started.
• 4:19
  Nobody
• 4:19
  was
• 4:19
  out
• 4:20
  then,
• 4:20
  Paul.
• 4:20
  Everybody
• 4:21
  was
• 4:21
  in
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  closet.
• 4:22
  Nobody
• 4:22
  was
• 4:22
  out.
• 4:23
  And
• 4:24
  my
• 4:24
  wife
• 4:24
  wouldn't
• 4:24
  even
• 4:24
  hold
• 4:25
  my
• 4:25
  hand
• 4:25
  in
• 4:25
  public.
• 4:26
  She
• 4:26
  goes,
• 4:26
  oh,
• 4:26
  no,
• 4:26
  we
• 4:26
  don't
• 4:27
  want
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  offend
• 4:27
  people.
• 4:27
  And
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  said,
• 4:28
  are
• 4:28
  you
• 4:28
  kidding?
• 4:29
  I'd
• 4:29
  never,
• 4:29
  you
• 4:29
  know,
• 4:30
  and.
• 4:31
  And
• 4:31
  we
• 4:31
  would
• 4:32
  walk
• 4:32
  into
• 4:32
  a
• 4:32
  restaurant.
• 4:33
  People
• 4:33
  knew,
• 4:33
  and
• 4:34
  they
• 4:34
  would
• 4:34
  stop
• 4:35
  and
• 4:35
  watch
• 4:36
  us.
• 4:36
  It
• 4:36
  was
• 4:37
  so
• 4:37
  uncomfortable.
• 4:38
  It
• 4:38
  was
• 4:38
  so
• 4:39
  awful.
• 4:39
  You
• 4:39
  know
• 4:39
  what
• 4:39
  I
• 4:40
  find
• 4:40
  finding
• 4:40
  interesting
• 4:41
  about
• 4:41
  your
• 4:41
  story?
• 4:44
  Your
• 4:44
  north
• 4:45
  node
• 4:46
  is
• 4:46
  in
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  10th
• 4:47
  House
• 4:48
  of
• 4:49
  Reputation.
• 4:53
  And.
• 4:54
  Wow.
• 4:55
  And
• 4:55
  as
• 4:55
  I'm
• 4:55
  listening
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  your
• 4:56
  story,
• 5:00
  you.
• 5:03
  It's
• 5:03
  all
• 5:03
  about
• 5:04
  reputation
• 5:05
  in
• 5:05
  a
• 5:05
  way.
• 5:06
  You
• 5:06
  build
• 5:07
  up
• 5:07
  a
• 5:07
  reputation
• 5:08
  in
• 5:08
  something,
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  then
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  walk
• 5:10
  away
• 5:10
  from
• 5:11
  it.
• 5:12
  Yeah,
• 5:13
  you
• 5:13
  built
• 5:13
  up
• 5:13
  a
• 5:13
  reputation.
• 5:16
  Just
• 5:16
  say,
• 5:16
  in
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  drug
• 5:16
  world,
• 5:17
  Then
• 5:17
  you
• 5:17
  walked
• 5:18
  away
• 5:18
  from
• 5:18
  it.
• 5:19
  It
• 5:19
  built
• 5:19
  up
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  reputation
• 5:20
  in
• 5:21
  the
• 5:21
  church,
• 5:22
  and
• 5:22
  then
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  walked
• 5:23
  away
• 5:23
  from
• 5:23
  it.
• 5:24
  Yeah.
• 5:26
  Yeah.
• 5:27
  Well,
• 5:27
  it's
• 5:27
  almost
• 5:27
  as
• 5:28
  if.
• 5:28
  And.
• 5:29
  And
• 5:29
  they
• 5:29
  was
• 5:30
  attacking
• 5:30
  your
• 5:31
  reputation.
• 5:32
  Oh,
• 5:32
  my.
• 5:33
  Yes,
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  was.
• 5:34
  That's.
• 5:34
  Yes,
• 5:34
  absolutely.
• 5:35
  And
• 5:35
  that.
• 5:36
  That
• 5:36
  is.
• 5:39
  That's
• 5:39
  been
• 5:39
  in.
• 5:41
  I've
• 5:41
  walked
• 5:42
  from.
• 5:42
  I,
• 5:42
  I,
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  fight.
• 5:44
  I,
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  would
• 5:45
  walk
• 5:45
  from
• 5:45
  one
• 5:45
  battle
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  another
• 5:47
  battle.
• 5:48
  And
• 5:49
  so
• 5:49
  that's.
• 5:49
  We
• 5:50
  started
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  recovery.
• 5:51
  I'm
• 5:51
  not
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  recovery.
• 5:52
  We
• 5:52
  started
• 5:53
  a
• 5:53
  support
• 5:53
  group
• 5:54
  in
• 5:54
  our
• 5:54
  house
• 5:56
  for
• 5:56
  the
• 5:57
  LGBT
• 5:57
  community,
• 5:57
  and
• 5:58
  we
• 5:58
  just
• 5:58
  put
• 5:58
  it
• 5:58
  on
• 5:58
  Facebook
• 5:59
  and
• 5:59
  our
• 6:00
  house
• 6:00
  was
• 6:00
  full.
• 6:01
  We
• 6:01
  had
• 6:01
  40
• 6:01
  plus
• 6:02
  people
• 6:02
  in
• 6:02
  our
• 6:02
  living
• 6:03
  room
• 6:03
  every
• 6:03
  week
• 6:03
  from
• 6:04
  ages,
• 6:04
  all
• 6:05
  teenagers,
• 6:05
  all
• 6:05
  the
• 6:06
  way
• 6:06
  up
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  50
• 6:06
  and
• 6:06
  60
• 6:07
  years
• 6:07
  old.
• 6:07
  Do
• 6:08
  you
• 6:08
  think.
• 6:08
  Let
• 6:09
  me
• 6:09
  ask
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  this.
• 6:09
  Go
• 6:09
  ahead.
• 6:10
  Do
• 6:10
  you
• 6:10
  think
• 6:10
  that
• 6:11
  community
• 6:12
  drugs
• 6:13
  is
• 6:13
  rampant
• 6:13
  in
• 6:14
  that
• 6:14
  community
• 6:15
  because
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  not
• 6:17
  being
• 6:17
  able
• 6:17
  to
• 6:19
  be
• 6:19
  or
• 6:19
  feel
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  authentic
• 6:21
  self?
• 6:21
  Yes,
• 6:22
  absolutely,
• 6:23
  100%.
• 6:23
  That's
• 6:24
  why
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  was.
• 6:24
  That's
• 6:25
  why
• 6:25
  we
• 6:25
  were
• 6:25
  seeing
• 6:25
  so
• 6:26
  many
• 6:26
  people
• 6:26
  come
• 6:26
  through,
• 6:27
  especially
• 6:28
  during
• 6:28
  that
• 6:28
  time.
• 6:28
  It
• 6:29
  was
• 6:29
  really,
• 6:29
  really
• 6:29
  bad.
• 6:30
  Nobody
• 6:30
  was
• 6:30
  out.
• 6:31
  We
• 6:32
  2012
• 6:33
  people
• 6:33
  started
• 6:33
  coming.
• 6:34
  We
• 6:34
  called
• 6:34
  it
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  Dandelion
• 6:35
  Project.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:36
  then
• 6:36
  there
• 6:36
  were
• 6:36
  some
• 6:37
  laws
• 6:37
  that
• 6:37
  came
• 6:38
  out
• 6:38
  right
• 6:39
  in
• 6:39
  that
• 6:39
  time,
• 6:39
  2012,
• 6:40
  2013.
• 6:41
  Ish,
• 6:41
  right
• 6:41
  around
• 6:41
  there.
• 6:42
  And
• 6:43
  these
• 6:43
  laws
• 6:44
  made
• 6:44
  it
• 6:45
  legal
• 6:45
  to
• 6:46
  refuse
• 6:46
  business
• 6:47
  for
• 6:47
  someone
• 6:47
  if
• 6:47
  they
• 6:48
  were
• 6:48
  gay.
• 6:48
  And
• 6:49
  so
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  queer
• 6:50
  community,
• 6:50
  we
• 6:50
  all
• 6:51
  just
• 6:51
  came
• 6:51
  up
• 6:51
  and
• 6:52
  came
• 6:52
  out
• 6:52
  and
• 6:52
  started
• 6:53
  protesting.
• 6:53
  We
• 6:53
  would
• 6:54
  meet
• 6:54
  at
• 6:54
  the
• 6:54
  Capitol,
• 6:54
  we
• 6:55
  started
• 6:55
  protesting,
• 6:56
  we
• 6:56
  found
• 6:56
  our
• 6:56
  voices
• 6:57
  and
• 6:57
  we
• 6:57
  started,
• 6:58
  you
• 6:58
  know,
• 6:58
  doing
• 6:58
  all
• 6:58
  these
• 6:59
  things.
• 6:59
  And
• 7:00
  so
• 7:00
  the
• 7:01
  documentary
• 7:01
  aired
• 7:02
  in
• 7:02
  2014,
• 7:03
  and
• 7:04
  that
• 7:04
  is
• 7:04
  when
• 7:04
  I
• 7:05
  started
• 7:05
  my
• 7:05
  queer
• 7:05
  church
• 7:06
  in
• 7:07
  Hattiesburg.
• 7:07
  Oh,
• 7:08
  all
• 7:08
  right.
• 7:08
  All
• 7:09
  right.
• 7:09
  Yeah.
• 7:10
  When
• 7:10
  did
• 7:10
  you
• 7:10
  get
• 7:11
  into
• 7:12
  the
• 7:12
  things
• 7:12
  that
• 7:12
  you
• 7:13
  do
• 7:13
  at
• 7:13
  Red
• 7:13
  Jasper?
• 7:14
  Well,
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  started
• 7:15
  the
• 7:15
  queer
• 7:16
  church
• 7:16
  and
• 7:18
  it
• 7:18
  was,
• 7:18
  it
• 7:19
  was
• 7:19
  really
• 7:20
  2014.
• 7:21
  We
• 7:21
  started
• 7:21
  it,
• 7:22
  we
• 7:23
  got
• 7:23
  marriage
• 7:23
  equality
• 7:24
  in
• 7:24
  2015.
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  married
• 7:25
  the
• 7:26
  very
• 7:26
  first
• 7:26
  same
• 7:26
  sex
• 7:27
  couple
• 7:27
  in
• 7:27
  2015.
• 7:28
  And
• 7:29
  then
• 7:29
  they
• 7:29
  came
• 7:29
  out
• 7:30
  with
• 7:30
  another
• 7:30
  law
• 7:31
  that
• 7:32
  made
• 7:32
  it
• 7:33
  legal
• 7:33
  to
• 7:34
  discriminate.
• 7:37
  Made
• 7:37
  it
• 7:37
  legal
• 7:38
  to
• 7:38
  discriminate
• 7:39
  in
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  name
• 7:40
  of
• 7:41
  deeply
• 7:41
  held
• 7:41
  religious
• 7:42
  beliefs.
• 7:43
  So
• 7:43
  if
• 7:43
  you
• 7:44
  had
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  deeply
• 7:45
  held
• 7:45
  religious
• 7:45
  belief,
• 7:45
  you
• 7:46
  could
• 7:46
  refuse
• 7:46
  service
• 7:46
  to
• 7:47
  anybody,
• 7:47
  including,
• 7:47
  I
• 7:48
  mean,
• 7:48
  medical,
• 7:48
  anything.
• 7:49
  Right.
• 7:49
  And
• 7:50
  so
• 7:50
  my
• 7:50
  wife
• 7:51
  and
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  and
• 7:52
  my
• 7:52
  church
• 7:52
  became
• 7:53
  plaintiffs
• 7:53
  in
• 7:54
  the
• 7:54
  case
• 7:54
  against
• 7:54
  HB
• 7:55
  1523.
• 7:56
  And
• 7:56
  we
• 7:57
  sued
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  state
• 7:57
  of
• 7:58
  Mississippi
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  the
• 7:59
  governor
• 8:00
  over
• 8:00
  this
• 8:01
  law.
• 8:01
  And
• 8:02
  so
• 8:02
  this,
• 8:03
  this
• 8:03
  was,
• 8:03
  this
• 8:03
  was,
• 8:05
  this
• 8:05
  was
• 8:06
  unprecedented.
• 8:07
  No
• 8:07
  one
• 8:08
  had
• 8:08
  ever
• 8:08
  done
• 8:08
  this.
• 8:09
  No,
• 8:09
  no,
• 8:09
  no
• 8:10
  pastor
• 8:10
  had
• 8:11
  ever
• 8:11
  choose.
• 8:12
  No
• 8:12
  pastor
• 8:12
  or
• 8:12
  church
• 8:13
  had
• 8:13
  ever
• 8:13
  sued
• 8:13
  the
• 8:14
  state
• 8:14
  of
• 8:14
  Mississippi.
• 8:15
  And
• 8:15
  we
• 8:16
  did
• 8:16
  that
• 8:16
  and
• 8:16
  we
• 8:16
  won.
• 8:17
  We
• 8:17
  won
• 8:19
  Mississippi.
• 8:20
  And
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  governor
• 8:24
  pushed
• 8:24
  back
• 8:24
  against
• 8:25
  it
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  we
• 8:25
  ended
• 8:25
  up
• 8:26
  taking
• 8:26
  it
• 8:26
  all
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  way
• 8:26
  to
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  Supreme
• 8:27
  Court
• 8:27
  Court.
• 8:29
  And
• 8:29
  we
• 8:29
  lost.
• 8:30
  And
• 8:30
  so
• 8:30
  that
• 8:30
  law
• 8:31
  is
• 8:31
  in,
• 8:31
  that
• 8:32
  is
• 8:32
  in
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  law
• 8:32
  books
• 8:33
  here
• 8:33
  in
• 8:33
  Mississippi.
• 8:34
  So
• 8:35
  we
• 8:35
  did
• 8:35
  that
• 8:35
  in
• 8:36
  2000.
• 8:36
  We
• 8:36
  lost.
• 8:37
  Yeah,
• 8:38
  yeah,
• 8:38
  we,
• 8:38
  we
• 8:38
  won.
• 8:39
  We
• 8:39
  won
• 8:39
  locally.
• 8:40
  And
• 8:40
  then
• 8:41
  we
• 8:41
  got
• 8:41
  married.
• 8:42
  My
• 8:42
  Susan
• 8:42
  and
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  got
• 8:42
  married
• 8:43
  in
• 8:43
  2015.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  then
• 8:45
  2016,
• 8:47
  we
• 8:47
  were
• 8:47
  in
• 8:48
  Texas
• 8:48
  fighting
• 8:49
  this
• 8:49
  law
• 8:49
  on
• 8:50
  our
• 8:50
  wedding
• 8:50
  anniversary.
• 8:54
  And
• 8:54
  we
• 8:55
  lost
• 8:55
  in
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  5th
• 8:56
  Circuit.
• 8:56
  The
• 8:57
  5th
• 8:57
  Circuit
• 8:57
  said
• 8:58
  we
• 8:58
  didn't
• 8:58
  have
• 8:58
  standing.
• 8:59
  And
• 8:59
  then
• 9:00
  we,
• 9:00
  we
• 9:00
  appealed
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  Supreme
• 9:02
  Court
• 9:02
  and
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  Supreme
• 9:03
  Court
• 9:03
  refused
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  hear
• 9:04
  it.
• 9:05
  So
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  started,
• 9:06
  I
• 9:07
  was
• 9:07
  doing
• 9:07
  my
• 9:07
  church.
• 9:07
  My
• 9:07
  church
• 9:08
  was
• 9:08
  just
• 9:08
  blowing
• 9:08
  up.
• 9:09
  It
• 9:09
  was
• 9:09
  doing
• 9:09
  so
• 9:09
  well,
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  know,
• 9:11
  and
• 9:12
  you
• 9:12
  know.
• 9:12
  That's.
• 9:13
  That's.
• 9:13
  That's
• 9:14
  one
• 9:14
  around
• 9:15
  one
• 9:15
  of
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  dates.
• 9:17
  Yes,
• 9:17
  it
• 9:17
  is.
• 9:18
  It
• 9:19
  is.
• 9:19
  You
• 9:19
  do
• 9:20
  have
• 9:20
  those?
• 9:20
  Go
• 9:20
  ahead.
• 9:21
  Would
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  like
• 9:21
  to
• 9:21
  know
• 9:21
  why
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  asked
• 9:22
  you
• 9:22
  that?
• 9:23
  Yes,
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  would.
• 9:24
  You
• 9:25
  would?
• 9:26
  Yes.
• 9:26
  All
• 9:26
  right.
• 9:27
  Let
• 9:27
  me.
• 9:27
  Let
• 9:27
  me
• 9:27
  show
• 9:27
  you
• 9:28
  why
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  asked
• 9:28
  you
• 9:28
  about
• 9:29
  that
• 9:29
  date.