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Rankin/Bass Claymation Special "The Christmas Crab" (FROM THE VAULT) · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: This week we have a very special reunion panel of
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  Speaker 1: a Christmas movie you know and love.
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  Speaker 3: Arthur Rankin Junior and Jules Bass created some of the
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  Speaker 3: most beloved Christmas films of all time, including Rudolph the
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  Speaker 3: Red Nose Reindeer, Santa Claus Is Coming to Town, and
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  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy three's The Christmas Crab.
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  Speaker 4: And nothing captures the childhood imagination quite like Claymation. And
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  Speaker 4: we gathered some of the people that help bring Christmas
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  Speaker 4: Crab to life. So let's get ho ho ho, and
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  Speaker 4: let's go happy Holidays.
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  Speaker 2: My name is a Betty da Boop, and I played
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  Speaker 2: Donnie that Christmas Crab.
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  Speaker 5: I tell you man, it's great to see you here.
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  Speaker 5: Betty's great to see here. Betty, great to see everyone here.
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  Speaker 5: My name is George philbo and I was the head
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  Speaker 5: stop motion animator on The Christmas Crab, also a screenwriter,
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  Speaker 5: and I helped write the film.
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  Speaker 4: Good to talk y'all, uh, it is I good to
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  Speaker 4: see you all the back here. It is a Heinz Klein.
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  Speaker 4: I was the lead claimation artist on Is It Christmas.
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  Speaker 5: Crab, Christmas crab. We're talking about the Christmas crab today?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is what I said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I heard.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I thought you were asking me a question.
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  Speaker 7: Hi.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Paul Tayfer. I did it.
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  Speaker 6: Was the lead audio engineer for a Christmas Crap.
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  Speaker 2: And let's just say right off the bat, this was
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  Speaker 2: quite the film, and I think it really I'm so
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  Speaker 2: happy to see that we all dressed up for Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Just a bunch of Christmas heads in this house.
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  Speaker 5: If you can't see it, because I know this is
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  Speaker 5: an audio medium, which I think we're all used to that. Betty.
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  Speaker 5: I always loved Betty's laugh. I've always loved it. I've
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  Speaker 5: always we're wearing a bunch of outfitts to celebrate the holiday.
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  Speaker 5: I remember when I was working for Ardie and Jewels
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  Speaker 5: ranking in Bass. I remember we used to always wear
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  Speaker 5: Christmas outfits all year round.
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  Speaker 2: It was mandatory.
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  Speaker 5: It was mandatory. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's nothing I love more than Christmas fall.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say, I've been holding onto this since
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three. I don't know if I believe you.
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  Speaker 6: No, I love Christmas so much. What I don't love
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  Speaker 6: is working.
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  Speaker 5: Paul's always been a bit of a naughty elf.
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  Speaker 8: I'm a naughty elf. How long will we be here?
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  Speaker 4: Paul, You're hilarious, very funny, You're very funny. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 4: love Christmas in Austria. We have very good, good Christmas
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  Speaker 4: every year, and that's why I go back every once
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  Speaker 4: in a while to.
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  Speaker 5: Paul's smoking in here. I didn't know we could smoke
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  Speaker 5: in here.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, guys. Ever since the seventies, I can't stop.
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  Speaker 6: Can't stop with a cinnamon stick.
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  Speaker 4: Fow fifty years fifty is a smoking wow.
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  Speaker 5: That sounds pretty on bar for most hardcore smokers.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, let's talk. Let us talk about the Christmas Crab. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I love the Christmas Crab. But for me, it was
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  Speaker 4: one of my first films to head as acclamation. I
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  Speaker 4: was in charge of designing and helping move aose pieces
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  Speaker 4: back in force and over and over again to develop
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  Speaker 4: the Christmas Crab story. My name is Heines Klein Heines.
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  Speaker 5: It's so funny to see Heines again because we came
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  Speaker 5: up with this idea together. Yeah, yeah, I wrote the script.
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  Speaker 5: I had a funny little run in with this nasty
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  Speaker 5: crab on the beach and I was there with my
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  Speaker 5: girlfriend at the time, and we had a whole situation.
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  Speaker 5: I was wearing my sweater because I was coming from work,
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  Speaker 5: and the girl was.
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  Speaker 4: Down in Venice before Venice was Venice.
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  Speaker 5: You know. I was down in Venice before they took
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  Speaker 5: it over. Yeah, yeah, before they took me.
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  Speaker 2: Who took it over?
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  Speaker 5: You know, the ones who ruined it. I was down
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  Speaker 5: in Venice and the crab got into my sweatshirt. And
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  Speaker 5: I remember I came back from swimming in the ocean
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  Speaker 5: and I went to go put on the sweater and
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  Speaker 5: there was a crab in there. And I went to
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  Speaker 5: class and I said, hey, class, we got we got
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  Speaker 5: to try this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember because I was on the beach too.
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  Speaker 4: It was a lovely family holiday. We went down to
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  Speaker 4: the beach with you and your your wife at the
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  Speaker 4: time at the time. Yeah, And I saw it as
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  Speaker 4: a crab, and you'll freak out. You go like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's a crab inside, you know. So then then you go,
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  Speaker 4: we have to turn this into.
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  Speaker 5: A movie, and let's do a little plot real quick.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe better you can talk.
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  Speaker 2: What a gift that I am so glad that you've
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  Speaker 2: got attacked by that little Crab that faithful day. Because
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  Speaker 2: this was such a gift Betty doo boop that's my name,
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  Speaker 2: dobit bear it out. And it was such a gift
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  Speaker 2: to a voiceover actor like myself because I had been
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  Speaker 2: auditioning for they were putting across my desk, so to speak,
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  Speaker 2: uh breakdowns for Sexy Lady Cartoon is Sexy Dame cartoon
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  Speaker 2: and Sexy broad Cartoon, and I just didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: voice for it. I didn't have the voice for it.
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  Speaker 2: But when my agent sent me a Christmas Crab, he said, Dottie,
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  Speaker 2: this is your last shot. If you don't book this,
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  Speaker 2: I'm dropping you.
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  Speaker 8: You sound like a Christmas crab when you talk.
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  Speaker 2: And boy, oh boy, I don't think I could play
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  Speaker 2: anything else. And it turns out I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: When you came in and read for the Christmas Crab,
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  Speaker 4: I saw it like, oh, Jesu is a crab, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like Zes is a crab. Like we found it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad that I'm glad that you had
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  Speaker 2: that inspiration. Well, I mean, of course, and of course
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  Speaker 2: a Christmas Crab is the story to go over the
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  Speaker 2: plot of a little crab who'll gets stuck in Santa
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  Speaker 2: Claus's little.
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  Speaker 4: Coat, and he travels around the world delivering presents.
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  Speaker 5: He's can't tanker as well.
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  Speaker 2: And the crab is also there.
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  Speaker 8: That crab, you guys, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Why it's called the Christmas Crash because Christmas the Crab
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  Speaker 2: was along the ride for the journey.
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  Speaker 5: Yeahs. He learns a little bit about the meaning of Christmas.
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  Speaker 9: And I remember, do you remember that line where you
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  Speaker 9: talked about Santa Claus and then the you did the clause?
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  Speaker 5: Can you do that line?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I remember that line? It was a song.
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  Speaker 5: Oh would you mind singing it?
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  Speaker 2: Of course? It was your sata And I'm the class.
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  Speaker 8: Can I say when we.
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  Speaker 6: First had Betty come in to get her levels, when
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  Speaker 6: we started laying down the because.
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  Speaker 4: You have adjusted the audio engineer, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When it's great to have you here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure one of many, because use a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Really great to see you ball well, you're the last
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  Speaker 2: surviving audio and yeah this movie.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah no, when Betty came into the uh.
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  Speaker 6: When Betty came into the studio, I looked at my
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  Speaker 6: associate at the time, Junior, and I said, buckle up,
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  Speaker 6: we got a new kid in town.
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  Speaker 8: I said this is this kid seems green.
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  Speaker 2: In my uh voice? Don't take that gentle razsing. I'll
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  Speaker 2: take that gentle razzing because I love a ras. Where
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  Speaker 2: was I going.
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  Speaker 8: With this when I'm saying that you?
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  Speaker 10: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: In my voiceover classes because I took some voiceover classes
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  Speaker 2: in preparation for this. They used to call me Peaky
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  Speaker 2: the boop because all my audio levels were peaking all
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  Speaker 2: day long. And so I'm sure it was a nightmare
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh but we got We.
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  Speaker 6: Worked really well together, Betty, and uh.
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  Speaker 4: We got it in and out, which is the opposite
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  Speaker 4: of buildings acclamation, you know, because the voiceover you'll do
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  Speaker 4: it right at the end. You know, everything's built. A
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  Speaker 4: lot of the time you do a temp one, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you do the temp audio and send vons. It's done
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  Speaker 4: and it's polished, you go back and do the Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Betty, how long, just so let's compare the processes. How
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  Speaker 5: long did you do you remember recording the voiceover for
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  Speaker 5: the Christmas crap?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I think it took about two three hours, so
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  Speaker 2: a long, long, long, long time.
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  Speaker 5: And Klaus, do you remember how long it took to
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  Speaker 5: make the claimations in?
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  Speaker 4: It was about fifteen years yes, that's correct. Fifteen years.
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  Speaker 8: What about me the audio engineer, You should answer that.
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  Speaker 2: Ask the question.
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  Speaker 8: I want you to care studio.
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  Speaker 2: For about two to three hours, so I'm guessing you,
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  Speaker 2: Oh there were multiple characters, yes, okay, and two weeks
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  Speaker 2: six hours.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so twice the amount of time. Maybe just listening
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  Speaker 5: back just so.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't really adjust at all.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, but engineer, much so we that that fateful picnic
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  Speaker 9: on the beach actually ended up happening in nineteen fifty eight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because Zen, you went to walls, you went to Korea.
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  Speaker 5: I went to Korea, and I was in Korea, and
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  Speaker 5: I swear to God, the only thing keeping me alive
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  Speaker 5: was coming home to seeing the progress of Christmas crap.
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking about it. I should show you my
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  Speaker 5: diaries from that time. They are so vivid, and I
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  Speaker 5: remember I was gone for three years. I went a
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  Speaker 5: wall and I went missing, and I was a pow
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  Speaker 5: and whatever. This isn't why we're here. We don't have
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  Speaker 5: to talk.
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  Speaker 2: About that, but i'd rather you didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know I know that you you don't believe me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe you.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to bring that up.
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  Speaker 3: This is good.
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  Speaker 5: It's nice seeing you for the first time in forty years.
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  Speaker 2: But and I and it would be nicer if you
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  Speaker 2: didn't bring up your bogus pow story.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why you don't believe me about math.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't add up. I've read about the Korean War
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  Speaker 2: and the facilities that they put those soldiers in the
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  Speaker 2: and the walls you're describing, they aren't the color.
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  Speaker 5: It's so hard to hear the color. It's so hard
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  Speaker 5: to hear the Christmas crab herself be so mean to
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  Speaker 5: me about my journey.
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  Speaker 2: Really, when you adduct up your work itself sort of
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  Speaker 2: coming back to bite you a real art attacking the artist.
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  Speaker 4: It must be pretty much like a cop, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But I was gone for three years. I came back.
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  Speaker 5: You had the first four and a half minutes ready,
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  Speaker 5: and I remember seeing it and I remember being blown away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you are such a workhorse.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you y'all. Every day for about twelve to fifteen hours,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just sitting there in my little garage
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  Speaker 4: and I am just just a little bit and just
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  Speaker 4: oop and then I take a picture and then just
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  Speaker 4: move a little bit in yards and I go, I'll
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  Speaker 4: pinch a crab. Time to pinch, and I pinch and
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  Speaker 4: then you know you've got to build it so slowly
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  Speaker 4: because our script was what you know, fifteen sixteen pages
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  Speaker 4: that each page takes about a year.
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  Speaker 2: And let me ask you something, hinz did you go insane?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, seven speriods when I went absolutely insane. You know,
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  Speaker 4: when you're making a movie and not really getting paid
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  Speaker 4: for fifteen years, that'll make you go insane.
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  Speaker 5: Right because you get paid on the product.
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  Speaker 4: Paid on the product once it's delivered from per minute.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, per minute.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, there was a couple of years when I
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  Speaker 4: went insane. I would say fifty five to fifty seven.
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  Speaker 4: I was insane. I was insanity. I was very happy
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  Speaker 4: that not all of you saw me, because you saw
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  Speaker 4: me when I was in sane just one time, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I saw you one time. I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 4: I have really long hair. Was screaming, screaming, screaming.
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  Speaker 9: Like god, go you got And what was crazy is
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  Speaker 9: you were screaming at the figures.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going go faster, you need to move
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  Speaker 4: faster home screaming and German. Yeah, so so yeah, very
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  Speaker 4: very stressful, but all in all, Christmas classic so I
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  Speaker 4: was very happy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and ranking a bass. Were they jumping around different projects?
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  Speaker 5: Because for me, you know, I was the head of
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  Speaker 5: Christmas Crab and so I didn't have to worry about that.
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  Speaker 4: No, Yeah, I was working on three or four other
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  Speaker 4: projects at the same time, you know, So I would
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  Speaker 4: move the crab, take a picture, moves the Goat for
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  Speaker 4: Goat Revenge, take a picture, go all the you know,
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  Speaker 4: moves revenge Paul.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for an hour or two, that was the whole thing.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, you brought me in for the Goat eighty R.
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  Speaker 8: I think we have a clip with that of Goat Revenge.
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  Speaker 8: H it.
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  Speaker 5: This Goat Here's causing album and that's the you worked on.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I got in at about three pm, was out
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  Speaker 6: by five.
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  Speaker 5: Goat a d R. I wanted to ask you about that.
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  Speaker 5: So did the Goat loop over itself? You don't have
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  Speaker 5: to do it and the previously done.
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  Speaker 8: So it was early in my career.
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  Speaker 2: Brought the Goat into the studio and you said, do
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  Speaker 2: what you did in the ko and was he good
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  Speaker 2: at it?
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  Speaker 6: Well we did back then was we had the Goat
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  Speaker 6: in studio and what we didn't.
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  Speaker 8: Realize was it was hard to get a goat in
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  Speaker 8: the studio. So the goat was just going rancid.
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  Speaker 4: It was it was going off, So it was stinky,
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  Speaker 4: workable conditions.
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  Speaker 8: When we first brought the coat in sweat, so me
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  Speaker 8: and me and my colleague we looked at each other
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  Speaker 8: and we said, I said, Junior, let's just roll. And
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  Speaker 8: we rolled. And then at some point we got to
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  Speaker 8: ransom to see.
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  Speaker 6: And we had to get him out of there. And
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  Speaker 6: then a week later we realized we.
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  Speaker 8: Didn't get sufficient stuff.
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  Speaker 6: We had to bring him in to loop on top
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  Speaker 6: of what he missed during the ransod time, brought him back.
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  Speaker 6: We brought him back in and we left him in
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  Speaker 6: the parking lot, brought a mic out at the time,
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  Speaker 6: Mike's were this.
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  Speaker 4: Big the audio listeners.
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  Speaker 6: For the audio listeners, I hold my hand like a
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  Speaker 6: like I'd say, like a snow globe.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a snow globe, like.
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  Speaker 8: A swollen snow. I would say, after my wife's zanya, what.
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  Speaker 5: A snow glve after the snow gve eight your wife's lasagna.
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  Speaker 2: This is not helpful to the listeners. As a voice
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  Speaker 2: of the actor, I will say the most important part
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  Speaker 2: of your job is communicating something to the listener, Wow by,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think you're doing that.
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  Speaker 8: You're right, and it's as an audio engineer. I'm a
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  Speaker 8: visual guy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so you visualize the levels of the audio.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I gotta see the levels. Oh I can't hear
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  Speaker 8: for shit sometimes.
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  Speaker 9: Speaking levels, Speaking of levels, I wanted to bring up
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  Speaker 9: our one of our favorite performers in that special there
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  Speaker 9: it is played Santa Claus.
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  Speaker 5: H your scene partner, the incomparable Burl Ives Burl.
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  Speaker 4: But's so good.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he is Mister Christmas to so many people.
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  Speaker 5: Who's amazing to haven't involved in this project really put
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  Speaker 5: for Burrow. Oh we missed Burrel every day. Do you
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  Speaker 5: guys have any stories. There's a lot of barrel heads
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  Speaker 5: out there. Any stories?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I forgot to tell a couple of stories.
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  Speaker 5: You know, remember him, keep them alive, him alive.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, well, I'll I could go first if you want. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Burrel was my idol as a big Christmas head. I
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  Speaker 2: of course became a big Burrel head because of the
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  Speaker 2: amount of times he played Santa Claus. It touched my
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  Speaker 2: heart and as a little girl, I would write letters
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  Speaker 2: to Burrow instead of Santa Claus because in my mind
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  Speaker 2: he was Santa, and I didn't get what I wanted
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  Speaker 2: because I was sending them to a real man, and
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  Speaker 2: so that broke me for a while. I was off
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  Speaker 2: Christmas for the years. I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: So you would write, you would write, dear Burrow, I'd
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  Speaker 9: like a Barbie doll.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And then I found his real address and I
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  Speaker 2: would send it to him. So my parents had no idea.
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  Speaker 2: Santa Claus himself sure had no idea. And so well,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get what I wanted on Christmas morning, and
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  Speaker 2: it broke my heart. And so I did confront him
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  Speaker 2: when we when we.
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  Speaker 4: Strategy was that when you were off, when I.
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  Speaker 2: Was off, when I was off Christmas. Oh, I was
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  Speaker 2: a kid. So that's got to be nineteen fifty and
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  Speaker 2: nineteen fifty.
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  Speaker 4: Four, actually, just about the time you were in his
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  Speaker 4: a pow camp, right, No, No, you mean.
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  Speaker 2: The time he was stealing valor.
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  Speaker 5: Why did you bring that up?
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  Speaker 4: I just meets a connection. I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 2: The architecture is inconsistent if you know anything about the
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  Speaker 2: Korean War. What's weird to.
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  Speaker 6: Be about the architecture, because I think it could be
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  Speaker 6: about records.
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  Speaker 5: Well, she's referring to these grainy photos that one of
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  Speaker 5: the enemies got of me, and she focuses. I mean
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  Speaker 5: they were my friends, they were I was a prisoner,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: and she took photos, you know, it took rose and
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: they said this is is this your soldier? And they
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: sent it back to the you know, the army, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: they did come and get me eventually.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: What can I say?
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if I was a soldier at war and I
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: looked down at my fellow soldier and he was doodling
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: about a Christmas crab, I would have thought you were
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: fucking nuts.
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: And look at what you've created.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: All due respect Ball, you wouldn't be alive long enough
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: in a war to see anyone draw anything.
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: I think I could.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: An audio engineer can survive war. I've survived so many
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: rancid vibes.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen you survive missing lunch.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: You know, this is really bringing me back because I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: forgot how much tension there was.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: And I'm trying to come back and we're talking Christmas.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: And I didn't mean to bring this up, but the
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Korean War thing was brought up hines.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Of feeling, and it brings me pleasure to call out
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the elephant in the room, which is you making up
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a fake story about being a pow. You don't have to,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And it gives me no pleasure to do that, because
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: what I want to do is talk about Christmas. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: what I want to do is talk about Burrell. We
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: gotta keep his burw We gotta keep his memory alive.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Do you have any memories?
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: But yeah, working with Burrow is really fun. I remember smell.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: He always smelled like banana bread. And I remember on
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: the last day we got him a big loaf of
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: banana bread. He smell like it was really you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: we got really close. We we spent a lot of
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: time at the Smokehouse over on uh Barhm Boulevard in Bank.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: The Smokehouse, I had a couple.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Right we smoke.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know what it is, but anybody who's worked
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: on Christmas crap loves the Smokehouse.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: We love sitting in there in that dingy old little
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: place and listening to the music and eating rolls, garlic rolls.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: Shout out to Bethany Saunders, owner of the Smokehouse.
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: She hung a Christmas Crab poster that we all signed.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't think it's still in there.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Actually Lesbie.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: It was an honor to sign as the audio.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Went in there for a lunch alon last week and
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I saw it in there.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Bella is a great guy. You know. Me and my
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: wife actually did some you know it's sexually stuff. Was
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: him one time?
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, twenty.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one, you did it this year? Yeah, right
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: before I passed, Right before I passed.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Glad he got one in before.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: He went. Yeah, me and my wife, you know, if
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: it's struggling, well go what do we do? You know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: what are we going to do?
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: What are we going to do here?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: What is fight? What do we come to do? And
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Jim Burl comes and he goes, you know how he
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: talked like who can do his talk? Who can do
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: his talk?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: He's the guy that thinks have a holy job.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: That's what he sounds like. He's like, we slip together.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: And I was like, Burlie, are you mad? You're mad?
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: But said my wife was like maybe, and then I thought,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe it's twenty twenty one.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Let's try.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I don't want a good die. So we did very
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: recent well, you know, listen, I hate to tell you
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: bro broke past years and years ago.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate him what I think you were. You
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: were having relations with an impostor Burrow and it's happened before.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: No, there's a fake Burl out there. I did want
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: to talk about this. I didn't want to.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Talk about impersonating Burrel. And you know what, I think
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: he was the one who was ignoring by Christmas letters.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: So he's been impersonating him since the fifties.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I choose to believe that because this.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Man looked so much like Burl.
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: Kind of yeah, that doesn't that doesn't stop him. Yes,
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: the thing that doesn't stop.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: We I mean, yeah, Paul knows this. We had some
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: security questions we'd ask Burl when he got in, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: only he would know what.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Did you ask?
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: You could grab the mic unless he passed the security tick.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I can't say it because I know
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: fake Burl is listening.
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: But uh, you still say the questions was out answers, right, Well,
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: he's gonna look for him.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: What I'll say is we asked him specific pet names.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: We asked him specific uh girlfriends he had. We asked
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: him specific sizes of certain measurements of things on his body.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Things like that, if I could speak hand thinking his body,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: Burrow Burrell had freckles at the tip of his dick.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: And finally, I mean Christmas.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Hey everyone, We've got a live show, our first one
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: ever January eighth. That's Haaven thirty at the Beautiful Nay Type.
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: If you're not in LA, you can still get tickets
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: and watch it live.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Check it out a typewriter dot com dot com not
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: dot com, Lincoln Bill.
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: I don't care if the fake Burrel hears this.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: No matter what, We'll always be able to live at
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: your dick, fake Burrel. And if you don't have any
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: freaking freckles, don't touch the mic.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So what I'd like to talk about is how much
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: this special touched families.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love. I still get the fund mail.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Every once in a while.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I'm getting stopped in the mall.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they never know until because I did the voice.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: But sometimes if i'm if I'm ordering something at the bank,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: like a check.
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: Of some sort food you have order, I get check,
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: I get four checks Please'm saying can I get four
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: checks please?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And can I get a deposit? And can I get
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: a oh, make it a withdrawal, And that's when they
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: know it's me.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: You're looking at the bank in the back and.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: This is what I like. It's in It's in burbank.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You will you've gotta Yes, it's the Bill Burr of
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: banks and the Bill Burr that's what they call it
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: because the tailers are always yelling.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: So the.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, I do, rip your pot, you know, try to
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: withdraw like I don't just have.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: You should?
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I can't really do the voice because I can only
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: do this one hello, one trick pony much so I, uh, yeah,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: withdrawal and say can I get a withdrawal? And they
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: know me there. If they're if they're a little older,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: if they have kids, they'll be like are you are
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you betty to bope and I'll say, oh yeah, guiltiest charge.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And it never gets old to sign one of those autographs.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: People give me their wreaths to sign all the time.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: Wow, that's crazy. Can I say when you I couldn't imagine.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Hearing your voice when you order like a coffee or
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: something or through a drive through.
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: Does that throw people off?
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, less so than at the bank, less so than
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: at the bank. But when I'm depositing money at the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: drive through and I'm withdrawing the food, uh, they don't
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: seem to catch on as much. I think it's a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: younger crowd. You know, no good teenagers working for a
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: minimum wage, so they don't really know as much. But
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: does that ever happen to you? Do you guys ever
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: get recognized for working behind the scenes on a Christmas crowd?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Do people recognize me on the street. I'm very surprised
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you said people recognize you for this.
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: We never gotten recognized.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I've done the conventions I've done. I used to go.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of hold conventions. I've never heard of this.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they're great.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: They're always usually only heard San Diego.
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I go to San Diego. There's one in Christmas
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: con Saint Paul. Yeah, Christmas Cone, Marry Con. I do
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: Christmas conn is.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: In the Virgin Mary or as in Mary Ry. Okay,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: so Merry Christmas, Christmas.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Can Merry conn Bell Con. And uh, there's Saint Mary Con.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I don't go if you've gone.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: To that one, Paul, I went with my ex wife.
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, I uh.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: I love going to the conventions and talking. They're only
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: usually looking to get one person from every production to speak,
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: but ry.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Fun so I usually offer because I've worked on a
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: lot of productions. I'm surprised that none of them we
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: would invite me. You know, you know I can let
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: them know, that'd be great. Basically I'm not doing much,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: you know, vook and I need work too because it
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: was paid by a minute of production. So you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: like right now is the media is changed. The medium
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: has changed different way.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you guys think is the biggest change
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: happening right now? In Christmas movie?
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Do I have to say it out loud? How about
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: the computer?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: The computer that's your enemy?
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I hate it's the computer. Everybody's just always on the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: computer because they can do the things or animated movie
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: on a computer. How about a man sitting in his
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: garage making it what's happened is this?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: And you know some people would argue that it takes
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: about one fifteenth the amount of time that it takes
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you to go through the garage.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: And what would you say to those people?
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I would say you're wrong, and you would say I
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: would say wrong, we are all ind okay, so wrong.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: And that's because they don't understand that the passion lies
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: not in the computer, not it's behind the glass green,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: but ins man buildings a crap because do you know
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: what they do. They just draw and then they put
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: it and they draw and then it's done.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: The kids are always on their phones.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: It's you know, good things cost money, and a lot
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: of people don't care about things being good anymore as well.
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: I've noticed, and it's a heartbreak, Paul. I'm sure you've
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: experienced that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, audio engineering completely changed since the fifties, right, especially
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: with computers the fifties.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: I'd argue our department has changed, Uh, a lot of department.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Well how's it changed specifically art?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to know, because I don't know much
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: about the technical side of audio engineering. I'd love for
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you to get really in the weeds on the specifics
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll get in the weeds with that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: I'll get in the cords with that, as we say,
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: lots of cords and wires.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I just for the podcast listeners. Still smoking a cigarette here?
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry, folks.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: I'm a child of the seventies, and when you work
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: in this business for so long, it's like you you
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: develop habits that you can't break. I can't work on
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: a Christmas movie and not smoke a damn cigarette.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about the specifics of audio engineering.
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, let me get to that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Oh. I am dying to know the specifics of audio engineering.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And I think the people at home are too. I
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: think they're begging for it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: In a movie like this Christmas Crab, you're dealing with
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: gentle sounds, gentle images that are have around physique round
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: round like there, nothing is sharp.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: So the sound is round.
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: So you're trying not to You're trying to balance that out.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: You're trying to uh serve the material, not beat the material.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I can specifically, how has that changed from nineteen fifty
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: to yess.
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: So that has changed?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And keep in mind this is being recorded, that has changed.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: What do you mean as in, choose your words carefully
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: because many people will listen to this. Yeah, put you
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: in a set. I'm sorry to put in field.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: I feel that sometimes people want to hear from me
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: as the audio engineer because.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: I think I'll call it out right now. I'll just
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: say it. I think you guys think I don't know.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: What I'm doing, and sometimes you ask me what I'm
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: doing in acquisitory manner, like I don't know what I'm doing.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I feel that way.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you know what you're doing it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I'm just simply asking, how's the field that you know
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: so well has changed? Now?
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: Thank you for that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: Do you believe I have the utmost respect for you, Paul?
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: I think you're really talented, which is why we actually
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: ask you that specific question to get your expertise in
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: the field that we know you know a lot about.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: See you said that with a weird twinkle behind your eyes.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just have that, And I'm just a curious
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: crab who wants to know.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Watch out, watch out for this one. To be honest,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: you give it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: I think.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: I think Betty, you look for liars. That's why you
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: love working with him.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love and I you George. You're the light
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: of my life and I think only fond things of you,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: outside of, of course, the confines of US military activity.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: That is a no no subject at our dinner table,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and I love our yearly dinners.
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: Do you have a purple heart, George?
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: I have a purple heart. Yeah, I have a purple
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: heart for.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: The purple hardy made of Joeanne's crab afts.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: I don't crabs a whole crab on the brain.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I've been trying to find a rule like this
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: for Yeah, you have not worked, right, I haven't worked.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: So you just did that one movie Christmas Crab And
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: somehow you have money to go to Burbank.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Well, no money to go to Burbank. Yes, to drive all.
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: The way out of there.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: They let you enter.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: The bank's expensive. There are no tolls. I can go
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to Burbank.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: She did that. In nineteen seventy six, you were in
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Battle of the Network Stars. Remember you did Tugger Upe
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: against mister t I.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Was, yes.
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: And what's that game show where.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: They're all upon a wall oh match game? And they yeah,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: where Hollywood? Wherez oh Hollywood? You did do Hollywood Square?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: That as a series regular ONMO.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I am selling myself?
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Short.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I was a contestant on over one hundred game shows,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and I think I keep getting cast because I look
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: like just a jolly old grandma, which I truthfully am.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: But I also scream like a motherfucker when I win.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And so it's my turn to say, go to bed, go.
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: To bed, freckles on your balls, barrel burrel the.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Dick burn, Yes exactly.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I not to brag, but I just shot an episode
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: of Family Game Night, and I won one hundred thousand dollars.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: That is enough, Betty to get you to burn.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I'm really, really, really good at game shows. Cool.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Did they bring you on as the voice of Christmas Crap?
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: No?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: See they've forgotten. I did that. Everyone is forgotten. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: did that. I didn't start getting cast until about the
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a on all these shows because the public memory sort
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: of faded of you know, who is this Christmas crap?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I know they air it every year, but it's it's difficult.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: It doesn't stick with the new generation, which is great
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: for me game show wise, because I'm able to put
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: food on the table. As you guys know, I have
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: sixteen kids, and so it's tough to to maintain that
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: stream of income. But I am working my patuity off
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: going through the game show.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: Circuit right now. What are you guys doing? You're looking
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: for work.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I'm working on looking for work.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Oh you're working on? What's that about us?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: You are unpleasant? Is it?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: No? I don't know if what's that is. I don't
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: know how to get you got to get on one,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: so I have to get on the computer to do that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I hate ever since on the computer. Now. I've wanted
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: to not do that. I want to send a letter
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: or show up and be hello, I am here to
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: work hard for you. I'm here to work now, and
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I'm there to work hard. So if you know somebody
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: that's looking for an old man who does vintage style claymation.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: I've been working on my final film, it is You're
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: done after this. It's autobiographical. It's a stop motion film
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: about my whole life. I've been working on it for
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: the stop motion person that I'm doing it. Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And have you ever done have you ever done
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: it before?
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: Yes? I said in the beginning of this, I was
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: part of the lead.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: It just seemed like Hines was really taking the reins.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: We did it together.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: He just disappeared for a while, but then he came back.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: Together in the audience. You know, who's your audio?
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: I'm doing it myself on voice notes coming out, but
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: it's going to come together.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: And who's voicing the crab in your life story?
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: There's no crab.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Who is a characters about?
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Well, it's about me and it's about my extensive, extensive
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: snack collection. I collect vintage snacks and I have stored them.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: In this acclamation movie about you.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: It's about an old man collecting snacks over his whole life,
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: and he looks at a snack and he sees the
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: memory he caught that snack. You know, I like to
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: call him catching snacks.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: That's actually beautiful. Is it a feature length film?
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Well, we're working on it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: I've been working on it about forty five years and
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: it's about fifteen minutes in so hopefully, hopefully we're going
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: to finish it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: This sounds a lot like that movie Land of Awen.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Oh what is that movie, Steve Correll movie? What what's that?
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Welcome to Welcome to.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: My Welcome to, Welcome torow, Welcome to Marwin. Yeah, like
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Welcome Tomorrow.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: It's completely different. It's completely different.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Twenty five years in. I hope it's different.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really different.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: Forty five years.
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's good. I can't complain. I have a
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: good life. So what are you working on? And also
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: how has the industry changed from the go ahead and
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: answer that question.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: You're working on something, now, don't ask.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: Me that like you're looking for me to fucking flounder
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: on the ground.
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: No.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I just asked, like, do you have new apps that
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: you have to download on the complete It's different.
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: Now what I'm working on I am working on.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: I'm starting to do sound mixing at dinner theaters.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Live sound mixing at dinner theater different. So you're mixing
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: on knobs. That's fascinating.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: To be honest, I haven't adapted to the times as
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: best as I could. And that's why I'm so pissed.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: And I talk like I'm pissed. I just can't get
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: with all of the files. I lose files, I misplaced files.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: So live stuff good for me because nobody wants that again.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: We do it once and we're out, and then you're done.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: How do you mix out the sound of the plates
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: and the forks?
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: So we don't.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: We're making the state, but it's live, so you I
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: can just imagine that's pretty loud to hear.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, for sure.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: I tell my hostesses every time, put those tables back back,
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: the tables up.
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: As they say, we got to see the stage, Paul.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: So you're the mixer and you are the you manage
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: the hosts.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: I don't like to tell people this, but yes, you
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: all the restaurant. My brother and I opened this dinner theater. Yes,
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: it's his project.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: What kind of shows do you put on? Because I'd
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: love to come back. Oh it's only Mama. Well that's
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: a great.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Show, especially for I would say, ye, especially, but I
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: keep trying to push those tables back.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, go ahead.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Well I'll shot a question because you know obviously what
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Christmas heads are. The film is about Christmas. I would
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: love to know if you guys have any Christmas traditions.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, that's the question I was going to ask.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: That's so funny much and.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I would like to add to that question. Is the
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Christmas Crap part of your tradition?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Yea? To do you still watch?
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: I actually have a funny tradition with the Christmas Crab.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: I go home alone and I sent my house. I
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: get a pack of American I get a pack of Marlboroughs,
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: and I challenge myself to smoke a whole pack of
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: cigarettes before the movie ends.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: It's fifteen minutes.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: And I get sick as a dog.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: No.
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like a nice thing though, because you like it. Yeah,
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: I like it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: I love watching the Christmas Crap every year? Is my wife?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: We watch, We have fun, we drink and we just
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: celebrate what it was back then. Yeah, you know, so
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: so lovely. That's what me and my wife do.
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: You know amazing.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: What about you, Benny, I well, I love the Christmas
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Crab and I have a big family, of course, And
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: something I think is important about the Christmas Crab is
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: your individual experience watching the Christmas Crab, because you don't
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: want to be influenced by others going ooh ah or
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: laughing at different points. I want everyone to have their
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: own experience. So every year, on Christmas Day, I send
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: each of my sixteen children into a room alone to
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: watch a private screening of the Christmas Crab. And they
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: do it in succession, and they wear noise canceling headphones
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: so they can't hear anything else. And then I take
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: them out and I interview them. I say, how is
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: it that time? And every year I do this, and
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I think it's important because you learn something new every
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: time you view it.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what a.
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: Traumatic experience for the kids.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Oh no, they love it. They do, They absolutely love it,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: love it. All sixteen of them love it, except for
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the one I won't mention. He went off to join
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the military. So he says, George, it's.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: More just you don't believe the military, Betty.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: It's been proven the military is a thing that happens.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And the hoax going on that there is a vast
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: number of troops ready at arms at all times to
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: defend the United States government's interest and I don't buy
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: it one bit. I think it's baloney, and I think
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: it's who ha.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Nobody has this conspiracy. It's just you, Betty, Betty.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: The military is proven. It's been proven that it's real. Betty.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: About you, George?
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean and my wife we watch Christmas
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: Crab every year. Since my wife and I couldn't have kids.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: We like to say that it's our kid because we
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: met when I was on a Merry Con tour in Tucson.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Is she a Christmas head?
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we met about six months ago, and uh, she's
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: my wife and it's our kid. When you are my age,
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: you fall in love fast. There's no more games.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: The same age.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, and but you're married, right, yeah, which the
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: ball in is a change never happened for me. I
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: was all Clay was focusing on the clay and the ideas.
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: You know, guys, you ever feel like there's no.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Reward every day of my life.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm having a wonderful life. Bye, go to the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: bank and people know who I am.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: If you finish up, could we just play that final
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: scene in the Christmas Crab movie just to just to
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: bring it home. Is it real? What Christmas Crab talks
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: about stops being so crabby and stops celebrating accept Christmas?
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: And then there's the prize cameos at the very end
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: from our favorite ranking and vast characters that come by.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's do it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: Let's let's play.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: Let's play it at half audio because the volume blown out.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, young kids, blow in the mix.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: In the mix, will will bump it up? You want
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: me to bump it down?
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: Bump it the fuck down?
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: These were the terms we were looking for earlier.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Bump it the This is all we need earlier, Just
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: a couple of terms and phrases that you feel like
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: have changed.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm so excited to see what this clip looks
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: like this time. Oh Santa Claus, I'm a cantankers crabby crab,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and I still, even after you've taken me to every
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: house to deliver every last present, I still don't think
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I know what Christmas is all about.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: But don't you see, little crab, Christmas isn't about work
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: or gifts or presents. Christmas is about being with the
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: ones you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Love, And do you love me? Santa Claus Well, in the.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Way I love my elves? I do love you. Oh,
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Crispy the Elf.
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: Hey, kritsp Chrispy, you need somebody also say elf?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Wow, Chunky Chunkie the chunk Elf, Crispy and Junkie.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: Merry Christmas. Did someone say snow moon?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the snowman from before? How are you snowman?
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Cold?
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: It got colder? So I'm bitter a record dad?
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: Someone call Michele Joe, Oh.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: The mistletoe who talks? I remember you taught me it
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: was okay to be weird.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Lives a little blow?
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: Do you say fish, Oh.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Fish, you are my sworn enemy because I'm a crab.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: You know I improvised that line.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: Did somebody say Rudolphin red, Oh.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Rudolf the Red those reindeer, who's foreign in this one?
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: Did somebody say clam chowder?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, but talking clam chowder? Who taught me how to
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: make a gingerbread house?
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: Well, guys, it's time to sing the song. We're gonna
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: sing ready.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: This has been Artists on Artists on Artists on.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Christmas, answering the question, now, that's why they call it Christmas,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: ho ho, We'll see you next year.
• 47:02
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• 47:08
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• 47:15
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• 47:18
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• 47:22
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