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Wired To Hunt Podcast #240: Rut Radio 10/10/18 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode two and
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Speaker 1: forty and today we're back with another episode of our
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Speaker 1: rut radio mini series in which we're hearing from hunters
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Speaker 1: all across the country about the dear behavior that's happening
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Speaker 1: right now, the conditions, the activity that folks are seeing,
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Speaker 1: and the tactics that are working right now. All right,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you
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Speaker 1: by Onyx, and we are back here today for our
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Speaker 1: weekly mini series that we like to call radio. And
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Speaker 1: on this show every Wednesday, we tried to get you
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Speaker 1: the most recent and up to date intel on what's
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Speaker 1: happening in the white tailed world across the country. So
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Speaker 1: I've got this friend. He's got a big beard and
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Speaker 1: a low voice, and I sent him out each week
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Speaker 1: to talk to people across the country in different states
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Speaker 1: to hear what's happening. And that big beard, low voice
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Speaker 1: friend is Spencer new Hearth. How are you, buddy? I
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Speaker 1: am doing good. That's uh, the first time you've introduced
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Speaker 1: me that way, but I like it. You know, I'd
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Speaker 1: like to try to keep everyone on their toes. Um. So,
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Speaker 1: so you did just that when I just mentioned you
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Speaker 1: chat with some folks already this week. Maybe you've got
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Speaker 1: a call or two still to do. Um So, I
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Speaker 1: know we're gonna get some reports and mother folks, But
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Speaker 1: do you have any kind of report yet? I don't
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Speaker 1: have much of report. No. I have been hunting a
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Speaker 1: little bit more now since we hit October. I hit
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Speaker 1: it pretty hard at the beginning of September, take a
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Speaker 1: little hiatus, and now I am back in his own
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm back in getting some tree stand time in,
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Speaker 1: but not a whole lot of actions so far. Have
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Speaker 1: been seeing some younger bucks, quite a few doughs, but
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Speaker 1: nothing that gets me super excited. The biggest thing that
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Speaker 1: I've done now is pretty much all of my cams
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Speaker 1: have been taken off of what they were doing this summer,
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Speaker 1: and they're all looking at scrapes, kind of like we
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Speaker 1: discussed last week. Yeah, it's hard to beat that. That's
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Speaker 1: that's what all my cameras are on. Two So, so,
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, what would you
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Speaker 1: say that deer movement has been so far in South
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Speaker 1: Dakota Spencer, It's it's been salad. I think here lately,
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Speaker 1: we've had some cooler weather, there's been quite a bit
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Speaker 1: of precipitation, uh, and there's also kind of been a
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Speaker 1: delay in harvest. So things overall have just been consistent
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Speaker 1: and steady, and I tend to think that that helps,
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Speaker 1: uh kind of pattern to your better. So if I
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Speaker 1: was gonna say a scale one to ten, maybe like
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Speaker 1: a seven or so, how about you in uh, Michigan,
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Speaker 1: because you've gotten quite a few sits in here lately. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And you know, it's been kind of an interesting week
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Speaker 1: and that we've had very it's been like seesaw weather.
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Speaker 1: We've had like really nice cold weather, cool and kind
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Speaker 1: of rainy weather, and then the next day will be
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Speaker 1: like eighty degrees, and then the next day it's like
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Speaker 1: fifty five degrees and cool and nice again, and then
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Speaker 1: two days later it's eighty five. So it's been back
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Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. Um. So I personally haven't
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Speaker 1: seen a ton of activity. Um. I've spent a couple
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Speaker 1: of nights just observing. Was out hunting last night and
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Speaker 1: that was super slow. It was really warm, um. And
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Speaker 1: there was also I think some people, um harvesting apples
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Speaker 1: on a neighboring property or something like that. There's a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of commotion on a neighboring property. UM. So
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Speaker 1: I would say the activity here has maybe been kind
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Speaker 1: of five ISHU. It's gonna be kind of average. There's
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Speaker 1: been some better days, there's been some not so good days. UM.
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Speaker 1: But I do see a light at the end of
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Speaker 1: the tunnel, and I know this is something that I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you're going to talk about and the rest of
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Speaker 1: our our guests that they're gonna be talking about. But
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Speaker 1: there is this pretty significant, very significant I would say,
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Speaker 1: cold front pushing across the country that's gonna hit me
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Speaker 1: here in Michigan on Thursday. And I think that's gonna
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Speaker 1: be pretty good. Are you seeing the same thing for you? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So this week on the podcast, we talked to Caleb
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Speaker 1: Simon from Simon Brothers Outdoors in Ohio, that we have
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Speaker 1: Tyler Jones and Texas from the Element podcast, and we
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Speaker 1: talked to Brett Joy from Parallel forty three in New Hampshire.
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Speaker 1: Then we go to Illinois and from bow hunting dot
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Speaker 1: Com it's justin Tsar and all of those people touched
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Speaker 1: on this just like you said, the approaching weather front
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Speaker 1: that we're getting, and and much of the cold or
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Speaker 1: much of the Midwest UH is experiencing cold front. And
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Speaker 1: then like where I'm at in the Great Plains, UM,
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Speaker 1: we're having some change in weather as well. Right now
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Speaker 1: it's kind of cold and snowy and rainy, but that's
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Speaker 1: gonna break as well this weekend, and so everybody is
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Speaker 1: optimistic that they're going to be some good deer that
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Speaker 1: hit the ground this weekend. Yeah, you know, it is
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Speaker 1: mid October, so there's always a worry that that's gonna
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Speaker 1: slow things down. But I think this is a really
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Speaker 1: nicely timed front to UH to keep the action going.
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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it. I'm gonna hunt um Thursday
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Speaker 1: when that front hits, and and hopefully Friday too, UM,
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Speaker 1: and we'll go mitten that to my very best spots
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Speaker 1: that I would hold off on until it rot, but
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Speaker 1: I'll go to some better areas UM and see what
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Speaker 1: we can do. So I am looking forward to it.
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be hunting the front too, I'll be
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Speaker 1: hunting it. Yeah, And I think a good example of
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Speaker 1: how optimistic people are is like Justin's are in Illinois. Um,
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Speaker 1: he is someone who is very calculated when it comes
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Speaker 1: to deer hunting pressure and when you hunt mornings and
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Speaker 1: when you hunt betting and stuff like that. And he
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Speaker 1: said he's gonna be doing some morning setups this weekend
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Speaker 1: with the cold front, which for a lot of people,
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Speaker 1: this is maybe a little bit early in the season,
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Speaker 1: but that's, uh, you know, shows you how excited people
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Speaker 1: are about this cold front coming through. And it lines
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Speaker 1: up really nicely with like Friday Saturday, and people are
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Speaker 1: getting out of work and uh, should get some time
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Speaker 1: in the woods. Yeah. I agree. I'm probably not gonna
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Speaker 1: hunt mornings myself yet, but I certainly would not fault
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Speaker 1: someone for doing it because there are going to be
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Speaker 1: some really nice cold temperatures here Friday morning, Saturday morning,
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Speaker 1: UM for us here in Michigan. I think I saw
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Speaker 1: it might not even get out of the forties for
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Speaker 1: the whole day. So that's pretty darn good for October
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Speaker 1: twelfth or whatever it's gonna be. So Mark Kenyon reporting
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Speaker 1: a eight maybe for my one to tend scale. Looking
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Speaker 1: forward over the next week, I think it is gonna
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Speaker 1: be good. Um, I don't know. I every time I
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Speaker 1: ask you about the one to ten scale or I
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Speaker 1: say the one ten scale, it makes me kind of giggle.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why, but I like stealing your line. Um, So,
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Speaker 1: I guess that's that. Is there anything else that you
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Speaker 1: want to touch on here at the beginning before we
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Speaker 1: do get to those um those contributors, Uh, I don't think.
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Speaker 1: So Let's touch base again next week and see if
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Speaker 1: that eight was a correct call by you or not.
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Speaker 1: line first is Caleb Simon from Simon Brothers Outdoors in Ohio. Now,
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Speaker 1: Caleb in Ohio, what would you say the buck activity
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Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale one to ten? Right now,
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Speaker 1: I'd say the buck activities it's not a four. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You have beans that are still green, you've got offalfa, clover,
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Speaker 1: food plot, chick or something of that nature. Uh, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna have some some good hunts. There's been some guys
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Speaker 1: killed some next year in the state and over that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But if you don't have that, you
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Speaker 1: don't have any corns hunt, it's gonna be pretty rough.
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Speaker 1: You guys have been experienced a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: heat wave here lately, haven't you. Yeah, I'd say probably
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Speaker 1: the hottest October it's ever been. And so you think
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Speaker 1: that's really surprissed movement then as well? Uh, last light
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Speaker 1: right at dusk. Uh, there's been a lot of guys
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Speaker 1: see some deer. But during the day, especially early evening,
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Speaker 1: it's still degrees. The other day it was almost ninety. Uh,
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Speaker 1: the derectivities real down. You brought up food sources a
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Speaker 1: little bit before. What's the crops satus like? In much
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Speaker 1: of a hier right now? Right now files are taking
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Speaker 1: off the beans, at least around here in the northeast Ohio,
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Speaker 1: most of the beans are coming off. If someone put
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Speaker 1: them in late. You know, there's some no till going on. Uh,
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Speaker 1: those beans are still green. Like I touched on before,
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Speaker 1: those beans are getting hit pretty hard. The corn right
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Speaker 1: now is turning. No one's really started harvesting yet. There's
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Speaker 1: been some styleage cutting, some chopping going on, but mostly
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Speaker 1: corn fields are still standing. And how will that change
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Speaker 1: things for you guys? Once more, those crops start to
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Speaker 1: come out as soon as the corn comes off, which
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Speaker 1: usually farmers will start taking off the end of October
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Speaker 1: early November, which coincides with the run pretty well. Corn
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Speaker 1: will no doubt be the hottest spot you can be
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Speaker 1: on by that time. The braskets aren't quite ready. How
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Speaker 1: your clover pots are all burned out from this heat,
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Speaker 1: and that's where I would be. Beans will be off
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Speaker 1: by then, Um, everything else will be already stand still
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Speaker 1: for the time being. Though it sounds like you're focusing
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Speaker 1: on acorns. How does this year's mass crop compared to
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Speaker 1: other years in Ohio? The mass crops pretty good. I
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Speaker 1: know a lot of guys. Uh, if they have acorns,
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Speaker 1: which it's spotty around here. If you have them, you're
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Speaker 1: a good situation. If you don't have them, you're in
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Speaker 1: a world to hurt. But the acorns are dropping fruit
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Speaker 1: trees most of them are doing pretty good. So if
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Speaker 1: you have apples, uh, something of that nature, those are
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Speaker 1: sort of real good year for that as well. What
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Speaker 1: are you finding for signmaking to this point? Uh, there
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Speaker 1: are some rubs popping up, nothing too big. A lot
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Speaker 1: of it is on trails entering exiting food sources are
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Speaker 1: trail cameras are showing that gear really are coming back
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Speaker 1: to them, So they're not really signed post rubs yet.
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Speaker 1: They're just kind of being made spur of the moment um.
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Speaker 1: There are some scrapes popping up. I know a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys in the suburbs are finding scrapes. They are
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Speaker 1: a little more active than us out here in the
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Speaker 1: farm territory. But the scrapes with cameras on them hit
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Speaker 1: or miss um. Not a lot of scent marking going on,
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Speaker 1: just deer checking them out. Maybe a buck makes them.
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Speaker 1: Continues on mock scrapes. Han't to heat it up yet,
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Speaker 1: just because of the weather. I would assume were you
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Speaker 1: guys doing any calling this yearly in the season when
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Speaker 1: it comes to grunt stories or any kind of rattiling,
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Speaker 1: not not our group right now. Maybe just maybe if
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Speaker 1: you have some gear out the field eating uh you know,
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Speaker 1: last light touch situation, they're clicking their horns together, maybe
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Speaker 1: you'll click the horns together a little bit. But no
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Speaker 1: grunt calls, no bleeding, nothing of that nature going on yet.
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Speaker 1: How about with moon phases as we enter mid October?
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Speaker 1: And do you feel like that affects deer movement all
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Speaker 1: in Ohio? Um? Some people swear by it, don't. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've read some recent studies where people are
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Speaker 1: saying that the moon phases do not correlate at all,
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Speaker 1: So the other guys that have bigger names will say
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Speaker 1: that it does matter me personally. I don't pay too
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Speaker 1: much attention to the moon. I pay more attention to
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Speaker 1: pressures and either rising or falling temperatures. That's gonna be
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Speaker 1: the key right now, I feel. And so when you
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Speaker 1: talk about the rising and falling pressure, what are you
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Speaker 1: looking for in mid October as far as getting those
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Speaker 1: bucks on their feet, I want to see a fifteen
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Speaker 1: degree temperature drop. Honestly, pressures over thirty maybe thirty point one,
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Speaker 1: thirty point two. I want to see a big weather shift.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be drastic, it doesn't have to
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Speaker 1: get terribly cold. You just want to see a change
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Speaker 1: in the weather from really hot to mediocre, from mediocre
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Speaker 1: to really cold, something of that nature. Maybe a storm
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Speaker 1: front moving in that would really helped. This time of year,
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Speaker 1: we've had a lot of rain, but it's been warm rain.
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Speaker 1: So if there hasn't been a much much in the
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Speaker 1: way of change as far as the weather goes, unfortunately
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Speaker 1: going forward, then a sex week or so, what do
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Speaker 1: you think that bucket ativity is going to be On
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Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in Ohio. Right now,
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Speaker 1: I'd say the bucket activity is gonna go from a
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Speaker 1: four later this week to a six, maybe seven. There's
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Speaker 1: gonna be some guys they're gonna kill some year this
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Speaker 1: weekend because we've got temperatures going from the eighties and
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Speaker 1: nineties down to the fifties and sixties. Loads in the forties.
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Speaker 1: They're talking about a possible frost's you can hit right
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Speaker 1: on Friday when everyone's getting off work. So Pierre, Ohio,
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Speaker 1: this weekend, I'd be in a treat stance i could,
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Speaker 1: because it's gonna be as good it's spent all year.
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Speaker 1: All right, Caleb, thanks for joining me, and good luck
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Speaker 1: to you and your brothers this year. No problem, Thank
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Speaker 1: you very much. Are in joining us on the line.
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Speaker 1: Next is Tyler Jones from the Element podcast in Texas. Now,
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Speaker 1: Tyler in Texas, what would you say the buck activity
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Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten.
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Speaker 1: On a scale one to ten, about a week and
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Speaker 1: a half ago it was really starting to ramp up,
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Speaker 1: and I'd say probably, you know, five to six, um,
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Speaker 1: but we've had a lot of humid and hot weather,
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Speaker 1: low ninety degree temps and uh, that pretty much shuts
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Speaker 1: them off, since most of them have got their winter
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Speaker 1: coat on at this point. And uh, honestly, the last
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Speaker 1: week it's been probably a one. It's been pretty rough.
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Speaker 1: Now we're not a lot of the country. We've heard
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Speaker 1: about a lot of the massive acorn crop that's hitting
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Speaker 1: the ground. Is that something you're dealing with there in
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Speaker 1: eastern Texas? Sure, Yeah, we deal with that every year.
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Speaker 1: We've got bunch of swamp folks and willow except put
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Speaker 1: off a little tiny orange akreins every year, you know,
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Speaker 1: in a bunch in a bunch of them said something
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Speaker 1: we were used to dealing with his heavy achren crop.
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Speaker 1: Where we where we've actually seen probably a difference is
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Speaker 1: our schuemarred oaks, which are a red oak that put
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Speaker 1: off a big acorn um have been Last year was
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Speaker 1: a banner year for them, and so this year is
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Speaker 1: not nearly what it was. So it's definitely changed up
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Speaker 1: our strategy this year in October, especially those bigger acorns
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Speaker 1: that you just talked about. Is that something that you
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Speaker 1: can plan on like clockwork, that if one year they're great,
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Speaker 1: the next year they're not going to be very good. Um, well,
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Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot of historical background with
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Speaker 1: those type of trees. Uh, maybe a couple of years.
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Speaker 1: So it's hard to tell, um, but I do know
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Speaker 1: that that second week or so in October where we're
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Speaker 1: at kind of right now, um, was uh death. I
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Speaker 1: mean they were keen and hard. I mean they're they're
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Speaker 1: pretty close to the size of a wide oak acorn
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Speaker 1: and uh, extremely preferential, I'd say after seeing what I
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Speaker 1: saw last year, So I would think that, you know,
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Speaker 1: going into this year, my plan was that in the
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Speaker 1: first part of October I would definitely be hunting those trees,
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Speaker 1: but they just didn't produce this year. I know you're
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Speaker 1: in the heart of dairy country there. Um, what's it
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Speaker 1: like or what are some of your strategies for hunting
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Speaker 1: some of those active cattle farms. Yeah, we we have
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of cattle. We don't have
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Speaker 1: many corn or beans like a lot of the country has.
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Speaker 1: So UM. You definitely, UM, when I were a bait state,
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Speaker 1: so you have the opportunity to either have a feeder
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Speaker 1: or throw corn out on the ground. Um, And so
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Speaker 1: that's that's helpful. But if you've got cows around, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna probably have more of a headache than anything dealing
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Speaker 1: with corn. So uh, focusing on on acron trees is
16:49
Speaker 1: definitely something UM that can be done this time of year. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And I would say, you know, your best option is
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Speaker 1: if you're hunting an active farm too, uh, stay away
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Speaker 1: from the cattle side of things and stay more in
17:02
Speaker 1: the hay production side of things. So if you can
17:04
Speaker 1: find those permissions that have that have no cows on
17:08
Speaker 1: them because they're in hay production, I tend to see
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Speaker 1: more dear on those pieces of acreage you're far enof
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Speaker 1: inland where those hurricanes but you don't touch you guys,
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Speaker 1: but you'll still experience that heavy precipitation UM in mid
17:22
Speaker 1: October like this, If if you do get a bunch
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Speaker 1: of brain, how do you see that change to your movement? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I mean, if if we get a hurricane UM in
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Speaker 1: our area, it turns out to be a lot of rain.
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Speaker 1: Usually because we're still pretty close to the coast, we
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Speaker 1: get a lot of humidity, which in my opinion, like
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Speaker 1: I said earlier, with the they're putting their winter coat
17:43
Speaker 1: on at this point, most of the dear habit on um.
17:46
Speaker 1: You know, the humidity really does shut them down. They
17:48
Speaker 1: don't like to sit there and and be hot and
17:51
Speaker 1: uh so, Um, after a rain, it's a lot like
17:55
Speaker 1: other places in the country. I'm sure where you're gonna
17:58
Speaker 1: get dear increased after a heavy rain because they've been
18:02
Speaker 1: kind of hold up all night and uh they're ready
18:05
Speaker 1: to get active again. Not to mention, uh, you know
18:09
Speaker 1: with a with a hurricane tends to come a lot
18:10
Speaker 1: of wind. Therefore, Um, you know our hackberry trees that
18:14
Speaker 1: we have a lot of, in our boat ark trees
18:16
Speaker 1: that we have a lot of, they're gonna they're gonna
18:18
Speaker 1: shed some leaves, and especially the boat arcs I've noticed
18:21
Speaker 1: it here, will really come out and try to hammer
18:24
Speaker 1: on those leaves and those limbs that have fallen, um
18:27
Speaker 1: that they couldn't reach before going forward. Then in the
18:30
Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that bucket
18:32
Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one
18:33
Speaker 1: to ten in Texas? Well, Uh, you know, looking at
18:39
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago, seeing the movement we
18:42
Speaker 1: had there with a good coal front, and then coming
18:45
Speaker 1: out of this week where we've seen hardly any movement
18:49
Speaker 1: even just locally driving the roads and stuff. Um, we've
18:52
Speaker 1: got a coal front coming in today and it's supposed
18:56
Speaker 1: to drop quite a bit. I think, Um, I would
18:59
Speaker 1: expect that we see similar movement as we saw in
19:02
Speaker 1: late September, especially coming out of this kind of low
19:06
Speaker 1: period that we've had. So I'm pretty excited. I would think,
19:10
Speaker 1: you know, on a scale of one to ten, I
19:12
Speaker 1: would have to rate that we're probably going to see
19:14
Speaker 1: a five or six uh in movement um and building
19:19
Speaker 1: it to the rut hopefully. Alright, Tyler, good luck to
19:22
Speaker 1: you and Casey from the Element podcast. Thanks for joining me. Hey,
19:26
Speaker 1: thanks man, so I appreciate a lot. Man alright and
19:31
Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Next is Brett Joy in
19:33
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Now Brett in New Hampshire. What would you
19:36
Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately? On a skille
19:38
Speaker 1: of one to ten, I would say it's probably a
19:41
Speaker 1: five or six. Um. You aren't moving typically very far
19:47
Speaker 1: from the vest during daylight, but they were moving a bit.
19:49
Speaker 1: It's probably dependent mostly on cold fronts or for weather conditions. UM.
19:55
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's about a five or six let's say
19:57
Speaker 1: right now. I know in the past when I've talked
20:00
Speaker 1: to you that acorns have always been a subject that
20:02
Speaker 1: we've covered. What is the acorn crop like in New
20:05
Speaker 1: Hampshire this year. Actually this is a little bit different.
20:09
Speaker 1: It's actually a pretty poor mass crop all around, both
20:12
Speaker 1: soft and hard mass, so not many apples, acorns, beets,
20:16
Speaker 1: any of that. Um, So that's changes changes it a
20:18
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. If you can find acorns, you're gonna
20:21
Speaker 1: be in good shape, especially if that's tight to bed
20:23
Speaker 1: and cover. Um. But if they're if there're no acorns
20:26
Speaker 1: in the area, then um, early succession growth of brownsts
20:31
Speaker 1: play their fact and it has in the past at
20:33
Speaker 1: this time of year, and so does any hay fields
20:35
Speaker 1: and agriculture. We have very little agriculture. We do have
20:37
Speaker 1: some hay field um hayfield so um those are actually
20:41
Speaker 1: drawing to hear to a significant degree right now. So um,
20:47
Speaker 1: people are focusing on that. Those other things weren't finding
20:50
Speaker 1: those isolated pockets of acorns their masks are you know,
20:54
Speaker 1: getting into the view pretty get and having some pretty
20:56
Speaker 1: good success. So you're set ups a little bit different
20:59
Speaker 1: this season, and then are you focusing on those field
21:02
Speaker 1: edges a little more then with the lack of acorns. Yeah, absolutely,
21:07
Speaker 1: I haven't done a ton, just had a abusity, but
21:09
Speaker 1: I have been out a few times, and all my
21:12
Speaker 1: sets have gone on food plots or hay fields. Actually, Um,
21:16
Speaker 1: one of my buddies actually killed a really good buck
21:18
Speaker 1: I think a few nights back, and he was sitting
21:20
Speaker 1: in a transition between betting here in a swamp and
21:22
Speaker 1: hayfield and he had pictures of that buck coming into
21:24
Speaker 1: that hayfield it last light. Um, that was a great
21:28
Speaker 1: deal of really big deal from the answers. So yeah,
21:30
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the end of the game right now.
21:32
Speaker 1: They're not moving far from betting still that that's not
21:35
Speaker 1: doesn't really change. It's just that they're having to move
21:38
Speaker 1: a little more and they're a little more concentrated on
21:40
Speaker 1: the food sources typically as acorns everywhere, so they don't
21:43
Speaker 1: really have to move very far betting his food and
21:45
Speaker 1: it's all the same and I'm just kind of having
21:47
Speaker 1: to stand up, walk to in Neard's eat and lay
21:48
Speaker 1: back down type of deals. So I'd say that the
21:51
Speaker 1: movement's more defined this year, um, and they're having to
21:54
Speaker 1: move a little bit further. They're still not doing a
21:56
Speaker 1: tundering daylight, but um, it's a little better than I
21:59
Speaker 1: would say normal it is. Are you seeing any signmaking
22:02
Speaker 1: in the woods. Yet as far as rubs of scrapes go,
22:05
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see a little, but really not that much. Um.
22:10
Speaker 1: I'm kind of gauging that by a couple of big
22:12
Speaker 1: primary scrapes that usually turn on at some point in October,
22:16
Speaker 1: and they really haven't at this point. Just seen a
22:19
Speaker 1: two smaller rubs pop up. Really no scraping activity, although
22:23
Speaker 1: I have got I got a couple of pictures the
22:26
Speaker 1: other night on a food plot of a couple of
22:29
Speaker 1: the bucks up after one of the big old one
22:31
Speaker 1: in particular, and another four or five year spanning. So um,
22:35
Speaker 1: I think that as you know, the October develops and
22:38
Speaker 1: as they start to get some cooler weather, it's going
22:41
Speaker 1: to stick pick that activity up in the next a
22:43
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. The lack of signmaking then and the
22:46
Speaker 1: lack of acorns that seems like it might change where
22:49
Speaker 1: you're putting your trail cameras right now. So what is
22:52
Speaker 1: your trail camera strategy as we get into mid October here? Yeah? Actually,
22:57
Speaker 1: the scrapes that I use around them and been pretty dead,
23:01
Speaker 1: um hopes as well for the most part. Um, So
23:04
Speaker 1: really right now I have most of money on food
23:07
Speaker 1: plots on field edges. Um. I have some one edges
23:10
Speaker 1: that cuts as well any transition line. Um, so it's
23:14
Speaker 1: a lit more of a challenge. But it seems like
23:16
Speaker 1: those city fields and most food plots are really feeding up.
23:19
Speaker 1: I think I had last week in particular, it was
23:22
Speaker 1: all after dark for the most part, but I had
23:23
Speaker 1: five different mature bucks on a little you know, eight
23:27
Speaker 1: of an acre clover plot in the middle of timber um.
23:30
Speaker 1: So that's pretty significant to have that concentration mature deer
23:33
Speaker 1: in one air. So really, those those other alternative food sources,
23:37
Speaker 1: if you will, really drawn deer. And at this point
23:40
Speaker 1: you've said a few times now that the bed to
23:42
Speaker 1: feed pattern is pretty tight for the time being. Does
23:45
Speaker 1: that mean you were a little ways off from where
23:47
Speaker 1: you would be hunting some mornings I actually for the
23:52
Speaker 1: most part, Yeah, So though I did hunt the morning,
23:54
Speaker 1: it was a few mornings ago because I had a
23:56
Speaker 1: real high pressure day with cold temps that was down
23:59
Speaker 1: in the series. And I actually had a buck I
24:01
Speaker 1: was after I had him moving, um in conditions like
24:04
Speaker 1: that early season in the past two years. So I
24:06
Speaker 1: went and I didn't see him, but um, you know,
24:08
Speaker 1: I was enough to know that historical patterns enough to
24:11
Speaker 1: push me into that area to go hunt them. But
24:14
Speaker 1: typically I'm not hunting mornings, so no, I would say
24:16
Speaker 1: that most of the time they're probably on their belly, um,
24:19
Speaker 1: you know, by shooting like. Of course there's exceptions to that,
24:22
Speaker 1: but yeah, in general I would see that little mornings
24:27
Speaker 1: unless you have some reading to other than you know
24:29
Speaker 1: the standard. So going forward in the next week or so,
24:33
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to
24:35
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to tend in New Hampshire,
24:39
Speaker 1: I would say it's probably gonna be pretty close to
24:42
Speaker 1: the same. I think we're probably still a couple of
24:44
Speaker 1: weeks away, so we get that, you know, real strong
24:46
Speaker 1: prered activity of late October. Um, I still think it's
24:49
Speaker 1: gonna be food source in cold front dependence. So I
24:51
Speaker 1: think we're kind of in a stage where, yeah, it's
24:54
Speaker 1: gonna ramp a bit, i'd say scraping and rubbings. I
24:56
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to really get going crazy for
24:58
Speaker 1: maybe another two weeks, but we should see it slowly
25:00
Speaker 1: start to build as we get as October goes along.
25:04
Speaker 1: All Brett were good luck in the Northeast. Thanks for
25:07
Speaker 1: joining me. Thank you Spencer alright, and joining us on
25:11
Speaker 1: the line now is Justin's are from bow hunting dot
25:14
Speaker 1: com in Illinois. Now Justin in Illinois. What would you
25:17
Speaker 1: say the buck activities been lately? On a scale of
25:19
Speaker 1: one to ten, I'm gonna give it up four. Early
25:25
Speaker 1: in the season, we've had some warm weather here, We've
25:27
Speaker 1: had a lot of rain, wind. Um. I think overall
25:30
Speaker 1: it's kind of kept dear movement down a little bit. Um.
25:33
Speaker 1: It seems like the younger bucks are up and moving
25:35
Speaker 1: around in daylight. But you know, sightings as well as
25:39
Speaker 1: trail camera activity of the bigger deer is I don't
25:42
Speaker 1: want to say non existent, but pretty sporadic during during
25:45
Speaker 1: daylight hours. Anyways, Now, I know you run trail cameras
25:49
Speaker 1: pretty much all year. How does your trail camera strategy
25:52
Speaker 1: change once we hit early to mid October? Sure, Um,
25:57
Speaker 1: every not every camera, but the majority of my cameras
26:00
Speaker 1: right now are getting moved onto scrapes, um usually along
26:04
Speaker 1: food source edges. Um. So during the summer I like
26:07
Speaker 1: to keep them, you know, on green food for the
26:09
Speaker 1: most part. Um, So they're close to where they've been
26:12
Speaker 1: all summer long. But as those scrapes really start to
26:15
Speaker 1: open up, I like to move my cameras onto them.
26:17
Speaker 1: They seem to be the most consistent, UH source for
26:20
Speaker 1: trail camera data through throughout October. How about hunting on scrapes?
26:24
Speaker 1: Will you focus on those for setups or is it
26:27
Speaker 1: more just to get inventory of bucks with your trail camera.
26:31
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the scrape for me anyways.
26:33
Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a lot of scrapes that
26:35
Speaker 1: pop up, you know, on field edges and places, but
26:38
Speaker 1: the likely places A lot of times they get made
26:41
Speaker 1: and never touched again, so they're not always the best
26:43
Speaker 1: places to hunt. But if you you know, traditionally have
26:47
Speaker 1: some history, maybe on a piece of property, or you'll
26:49
Speaker 1: find a community scrape it's maybe tucked into some cover somewhere.
26:53
Speaker 1: Definitely key in on those scrapes, you know, specifically in
26:57
Speaker 1: mid October when we get some cooler weather there. You
27:00
Speaker 1: talked about food sources a little bit earlier. Um, what
27:04
Speaker 1: are deer keying in on right now? Big agriculture yet
27:07
Speaker 1: or has been a shift of the acorns right now? Yeah,
27:11
Speaker 1: I think they've been in the acorn for a while.
27:13
Speaker 1: We've had a great crop here in Illinois this year,
27:15
Speaker 1: so I think they've been hitting acorns probably since September,
27:18
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Uh, and they're still falling.
27:21
Speaker 1: So definitely seeing a lot of sign around that. As
27:24
Speaker 1: far as you know, agg Field, I'm still seeing a
27:26
Speaker 1: lot of deer on green. A lot of our green
27:28
Speaker 1: food plots are doing really well, so like our clover
27:31
Speaker 1: chicker rail falfa type stuff are still getting just absolutely
27:34
Speaker 1: hammered right now. So that's where we've been focusing a
27:37
Speaker 1: lot of our attention now. A lot of the Midwest,
27:39
Speaker 1: I think you guys included, has gotten a lot of
27:42
Speaker 1: rainfall here in September and October. Um, how has that
27:46
Speaker 1: changed things for deer patterns for you guys or maybe
27:48
Speaker 1: affected food sources? Um? Well, I think more than anything,
27:52
Speaker 1: it's going to keep the crops in the fields a
27:54
Speaker 1: little bit longer. I know that the farmers are working
27:56
Speaker 1: hard through most of September trying to get the stuff out,
27:59
Speaker 1: and then we've after this real rain weather that's hit
28:02
Speaker 1: here lately, so it's definitely gonna delay things for a while.
28:05
Speaker 1: I think, you know, specifically, I'm mostly concerned about the
28:08
Speaker 1: corn right the beans is great because they can still
28:10
Speaker 1: hunt the beans when they're in. But when the corn's up,
28:12
Speaker 1: you know, it makes things a little bit more difficult.
28:14
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's necessarily going to change the
28:16
Speaker 1: way that I hunt per se um. I know, the
28:19
Speaker 1: deer and even with the acorns and the green that
28:21
Speaker 1: you are still hit the corn fields pretty art, at
28:23
Speaker 1: least on the properties that I hunt a lot of
28:25
Speaker 1: sign in the corn fields, which can be frustrating uh
28:29
Speaker 1: as a hunter, because it's uh they're difficult to hunt.
28:32
Speaker 1: But I also like when the corn is up because
28:34
Speaker 1: it does allow me some better access in and out
28:36
Speaker 1: of my spots because you can hide, you know, in
28:40
Speaker 1: those corn fields to get in and outwards. When that
28:42
Speaker 1: corn comes down, I've got a few areas that are
28:44
Speaker 1: more difficult to get into. So it's kind of a
28:46
Speaker 1: blessing an ochers both. I know you're very particular about
28:51
Speaker 1: pressuring deer, and so you're probably not hunting any mornings yet,
28:54
Speaker 1: But when will that shift happen for you? When you'll
28:56
Speaker 1: start hunting some mornings. Honestly, I'll probably hunt this coming weekend.
29:03
Speaker 1: We've got what I'm considering our first really good cold
29:07
Speaker 1: front of October coming through. We've had a few minor
29:10
Speaker 1: little dips in temperature, but nothing like what we're getting
29:12
Speaker 1: ready to see here this weekend. So I'll probably hunt
29:15
Speaker 1: both Saturday and Sunday morning. Um, I'm gonna get a
29:18
Speaker 1: little bit more aggressive than I usually do on probably
29:21
Speaker 1: one of my properties. Um, and if I blow something out,
29:25
Speaker 1: I blow it out. I guess I'll go hunt one
29:26
Speaker 1: of my other pieces. But I figured, with this good
29:29
Speaker 1: temperatures that are coming in good weather conditions, I'm gonna
29:32
Speaker 1: press my luck a little bit. You sound optimistic, So
29:35
Speaker 1: what do you think that buckettvity is going to be
29:37
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tend in Illinois is
29:39
Speaker 1: coming week or so, I think we'll probably ramp up
29:42
Speaker 1: to a five or six at least. I mean, it's
29:45
Speaker 1: still early. I don't want to get my hopes too high.
29:48
Speaker 1: But with that first cold front, I mean good cold front.
29:50
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking temperatures today here in Illinois. It's
29:54
Speaker 1: eighty in the eighties. Uh, two days from now, we're
29:57
Speaker 1: going to be struggling to get out of the fifties
29:59
Speaker 1: with temperatures all down into the thirties at night, which
30:01
Speaker 1: we haven't seen yet. So I'm anticipating some some better
30:04
Speaker 1: buck movement Uh, it's not the rut yet. It's not
30:07
Speaker 1: even really the pre rut yet. We're kind of the
30:09
Speaker 1: pre pre rut, so you don't want to get your
30:11
Speaker 1: hopes up too much. But man, that first good cold
30:14
Speaker 1: snap of the year usually puts a few deer on
30:16
Speaker 1: their feet. Uh, and I got to imagine that we'll
30:18
Speaker 1: see some bucks going down here this weekend. Alright, Justin,
30:21
Speaker 1: good luck to you and everyone else at bow hunting
30:23
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30:27
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30:31
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30:35
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