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Talks to Dave, Lucy & Daniel about their choice of Planet of Fire (3/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Welcome back to hamster with blunt penknife the Doctor Who
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  country podcast where it meets, some hysteria, we are discussing
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  planet of fire. So how are we feeling about it
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  so far? Joe.
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  Oh hello, we've talked about once, what's on the screen.
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  But we've certainly talked about all the elements of the story
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  and a lot of other things as well.
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  We just had a 20 minute discussion about all the Masters
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  Absolutely fabulous. I'm having a great time and as
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  ever with you free around, I have to do very little work over
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  to you Dave. I'm feeling much to see my can't
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  don't know what the hell's going on the screen cuz this before,
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  but I've been enjoying myself immensely talk about Masters and
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  shorts and all sorts of other things.
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  Well, I've lost interest now. That Perry's, put her clothes
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  back on. Yeah, it's I'm enjoying it.
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  I think. Yeah.
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  I think what's been said so far is that we it looks good and the
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  the cinematography of the the location filming which I think
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  I'm a mention on our Twitter. DM s about In the dirt in the
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  documentary Fiona coming, said she was glad that she had Johnny
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  Walker with her, and I thought she had, you know, secret bottle
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  of whiskey because working on top seat and make sure to drink.
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  But tells that she was talking about the cameraman, John
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  Walker, who I think does it an exceptionally good job of making
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  Lanzarote look like an alien planet?
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  Did you hear the story about Eric's award?
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  He was whinging. That J&T was always off.
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  Yeah, and so job, right? You can go and do the wreckage.
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  Lanzarote with CO2 coming and apparently had a miserable time.
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  Early starts. They got lost.
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  They didn't have any wool. It was too hot a giant.
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  He said it was a salutary lesson.
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  Yes. As he jetted off to yes?
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  Another convention in the state's doing a recce for
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  allocation and going to a convention where your lord, it
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  up are two very different things.
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  Yes, you should have something so it morning about the GMT when
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  it came back door, it's all the fault of you join.
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  I was up early and And he's made a lot of money out of it since
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  well, not a lot of money. But however, many documentaries,
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  he's done. Oh, hang on.
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  There's a quote being waved in our psyches.
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  I should like to point out that quickly, the cork is here,
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  Daniel night. And if you say more root things
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  about Perry's, boobs is going to shoot you.
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  All right. Okay, laughs been appreciating
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  them. Her this is the most
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  heterosexual this podcast has ever been.
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  I did just before we before we start the episode which we will
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  in a moment because it's getting late and we're getting a bit
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  hysterical. I think that this is one of
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  Perry's. I know it's a first episode but
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  I think once once they get into the action on the planet this is
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  one of the better episodes. Then she shows a lot of sort of
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  Ingenuity and resolve and she knows that she can influence
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  comedian and she Is perfect refusing to be hypnotized by the
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  master, which is always good. Don't you just love the way she
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  cons the doctor into taking her with her like, you know, I yeah,
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  I will this leave. I was 10, I was gone on holiday
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  to me, folks, so they won't miss me.
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  He's got three monkeys. Yeah, three months at a time
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  machine would be through the years, condemn Malcolm's, been
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  short. You can have you started the
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  episode? Yeah.
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  Oh and we started it. No not that I know of but we
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  both know it's spoilers to be honest.
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  Malcolm being shot, you don't that's not going to make much of
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  a difference because it's not much of a not a very dynamic
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  character. Is he really just get shot?
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  He's a bit Well, anyway, when we, when we left, the master had
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  been voted, as the as The Outsider, the savior of the, of
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  the land from the oh, just one other thing I wanted to say,
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  because I thought about this the other day before I forget it, is
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  that do you think that Psalm suffers from sort of small Star
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  Wars Planet syndrome? Well, sire.
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  What it's the planets in the stall.
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  Universe seemed to be very, very small.
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  Because instead of going to do Three countries to meet
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  different sorts of people. They all go to different
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  planets, and they seem to only have one kind of society the
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  settlement. Yeah, yeah.
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  And then, you know, they and they go to another planet to do
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  this in another planet to do that.
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  Whereas it and this one with the, I know that it's a volcanic
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  planet in its, the population has been reduced but the
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  population of the planet fits into one room.
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  Yes. It's sort of thing that Robert
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  Holmes has brilliantly Rebus operations.
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  It where he says, oh yeah just say we're from the north and it
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  means there's another part planet that we just get to see.
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  I think you're right. It does suffer from small
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  planets in Jurassic but he doesn't do that for power of
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  crow. Where basically, they set up a
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  refinery right next to a group of, you know, indigenous
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  peoples, where they've got this. I know it's a moon so it's not
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  that big. But it's they could have, you
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  know, put it somewhere else where there weren't any people
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  there and causing trouble with the You know, making the locals
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  a bit, what they call the swamp, he's the swamp is, it does make
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  a great sucky squid, sloppy way out of the mud, which is
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  amazing. Yes, lots of tentacles.
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  Yes. Well, what suppose you better
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  watch? Sorry, I hope you liked it
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  between episodes that we were talking too much about what the
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  content. So now you're in charge or eyes
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  dry when we when we left, when we left the doctor and his
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  Newfound friends were about to be put to the flames and the the
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  comedian in his form of the master looking very sharp in a
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  sharp suit. And inexplicable shop suit is
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  has been hailed by By tipping off the priest as The Outsider
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  who will save the planet. And so, he's ordering them all
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  to be executed and off we go, that sounds absolutely riveted.
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  Yes, happens in. Yep.
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  Five, four, three, two Dave. Let's go see this doctor.
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  Don't Sully or stories of event. You know what I've been sitting
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  here wondering what's gonna happen to malcon, you know, in
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  this episode the ends up in how its way.
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  Yeah. It's being watched, it's a very
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  boring 80s drama, starring Morris Colburn who played Lytton
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  who's in charge of a Boatyard, basically, Saturday Sunday,
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  Sunday nights in the 1980s you had you had the Antiques
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  Roadshow which is still going on there.
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  You had Last of the Summer Wine, and you have Howards way.
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  See how the load of antiques 303 old gets going down the
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  Yorkshire, Dales in a tin bath and a Boatyard Okay, now our
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  Campo foggy and click who does that make us?
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  I hope that doesn't make me know about it or batty.
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  Hey, you're the fellow. Who's with the woman who's out
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  of sleeping with everyone in the village?
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  Well, how would the marina? Oh my god.
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  Oh, and can you be for? I heard Loosely.
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  Absolutely yellow paper down for you.
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  That bit Wiggly. Enduro daughter says that Marina
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  has nice shoes. You weren't brought up to like
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  nice shoes. We just had a wonderful laying.
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  There were some other guy, despair doctor help us while we
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  can make you could just you know the guy with the long hair.
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  He's not, he sounds more like you should be on Grange Hill
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  rather than him on an alien planet.
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  He's got beaver, beaver, an estuary axle, sort of Essex,
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  sort of all londoners sort of accent.
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  He's just had a player. I didn't think it was going to
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  get any dialogue. Lots of planets have, I mean, if
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  lots of planning, It's have a North in lots of planets must
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  have a mystery as well. Yes, don't tell me.
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  Lots of fans have an Essex. I don't see why not.
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  Wow. Overall from Essex, you watch
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  your mouth or I am I. Oh no, sir, it's a lovely Place.
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  The Only Way is Essex. My filmed Carnival of monsters
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  in their 16. They that's that's those those
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  lovely marshes are Essex. I think.
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  But not his daughter. We've talked about dr.
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  Feldman in Essex. We've talked about Doctor Who
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  from. In Lanzarote?
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  Why enough to this day? I'm just plugging Mon Mon origin
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  here whenever they never found the couldn't score.
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  Anyway, that's just ridiculous. A up your disabilities.
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  Well, they in the fake Scotland deny Sussex.
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  Yeah. But could you come up here in
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  Wales? That supposed to be supposed to
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  be Scotland. I supposed to be near near
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  Aberdeen. I can't think why not they've
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  caused. It's just so beautiful in
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  Scotland. Yeah.
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  Wouldn't it be fear, was the places it rains these days?
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  It's probably cheaper to film and South Africa then if they're
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  bloody running eyes. So the most is having a battle
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  of wills now with the priest who decided that he's got all in
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  their mouth. Oh, shop for the second time I
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  never saw that coming. It's yours or and yeah you know
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  the bit where Pete Davidson says, to chameleon strings car.
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  And you know, he has that Sort of psychological.
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  Remember watching this with my mom, you know, she was quite
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  impressed with that same. Trust me to impress her took a
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  lot. She was like, oh, this is a nice
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  psychological angle for Doctor Who or went?
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  Yeah, stick around it. Don't last long, you know?
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  But she did a lot of that. Same.
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  Yeah. But he's also also the master of
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  course is it is revealing himself as being evil because
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  he's saying I'm don't mind. The boy that's just been shot.
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  All those shots are quite tight there.
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  Sorry. Oh, no, look, we've just had an
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  exposition coma. If went chameleon is the master,
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  and then fainted, what else are you waiting to say?
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  You just didn't have a cheated that this man is an imposter but
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  he didn't get but he did get doctor.
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  He got his Exposition out just in time before the key plot
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  points. I think like it's Karthik and
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  but I think Davison looks really cool with his, a pretty seasoned
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  just the shot. Yeah, I agree.
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  Actually joked about the Masters, be it though.
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  It looks like a bit a co-op. It done it.
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  It doesn't look at all convinced it think in this, because it
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  might struggle his head if you want.
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  Yeah, he walks gently waving in the wind and didn't he?
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  Where I think the idea was that he had, he had his own to pay,
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  and then they put a wig on top of it.
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  I think I could be wrong. I know.
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  I mean, but I think as he it was like you you can't you can't say
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  that he's wearing a wig. So you have to put the week that
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  you he wears for the master on top of the actual wig these
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  wearing Did you hear what the doctor just said?
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  Then saikai morphic fringing. I think that's what they call
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  the CSO in the 70s, you know? Yes.
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  It still looks impressive, though.
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  Don't you think? I think they set.
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  So yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  They're really good. Simply match the location.
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  Mmm. I'm like, turn a managed to pull
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  off an actual volcano. Erupting at one point?
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  Yes. Yeah.
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  Well, they sent me this certainly steam.
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  Coming through the vents in the, the ground at various points
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  from, which must have been quite a long if you had to be acting
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  and beat it and you're wearing shorts, well, yes, you know, the
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  Masters in that set, right? You know, screaming out his
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  orders. I've always supposed to just
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  think he's in his Tardis, you know?
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  It. A Divine, I think so.
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  Yes. Yeah, already know because he
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  says something about told easily.
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  So we meant to think there's something wrong with his Tardis
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  that he needs the bit from the doctors to fix it while he's in
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  there. Wearing his hair dryer.
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  Is how many certain? Yeah, it's nothing wrong with
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  that but it does make it a great twisting when we open the box
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  it's time. Yeah, it gets.
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  That's almost spoiled brats. It's other Cliffhanger and now
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  the master is back again as Looks like drunk a bit tiresome
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  though. All of this, you know, coming
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  in, is the masteries. Howard is this is that I think
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  that more confusing than anything Can you do?
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  Screening thought control. So it's one of these.
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  That's what. Yeah.
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  Also now he gets to Camp it up again.
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  Over the years, I've dreamt of a million Exquisite torture us to
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  have in your final moments dr. Like and Leon was a couple Lanes
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  in the supportive. Jim Baker do because there was
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  some really colorful Lanes, when I watched it the other day.
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  Come on, Perry save the day. We love Perry after your eyes.
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  While she's got a lot of agency in if she's very strong in his.
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  Yes, just think she's ever as strong as this again.
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  Which is a shame I think possibly mindwarp I think she's
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  under yeah maybe maybe yeah yeah and then of course the audience
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  is she gets a new lease of Life figures and I think that leads
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  into her Colin Baker's sort of established relationship over
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  sort 20 years so their chemistry and they like no fucking way.
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  I'm gonna play this. Full of conflict anymore.
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  We're going to we're going to make it.
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  So we're the best of friends and we're going off and doing these
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  adventures together. It's really nice.
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  Yeah it's not just green, they've got good chemistry.
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  It's just that the script editor is determined to make them at
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  each other's throats all the time, which I think is, is a
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  shame. And what you've got with a
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  Davison and Nicola brine. Is that just like equals from
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  the off? Oh yeah.
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  But then you get them landing on.
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  With the check, on the name of the planet, which I've forgotten
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  and resolve, those are mean, minor, a only minor and
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  immediately, they're arguing with each other was like, where
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  did that come from mr. Scripted to, who thinks that
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  people have to argue with each other all the time for it to be
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  dramatic? Yeah, that's Robert Holmes.
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  I'm a big hero homes has been. I'm not right in that.
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  I'm just going to have them. Do you think that hippie there
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  to the left was sort of the low? The null don't ha help.
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  Us, man. Yes, he's there yet.
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  The wooden one. He's very cute though, isn't he?
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  Apparently he was busy knowing in one of the socks or
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  something. Apparently, before us, I'm just
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  like a heart throbbing. One of the sorts of see, I can
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  see it. I buy me a drink.
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  I was going to say, he's very sort of Duran Duran video, isn't
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  it? Yeah, yes, yes, that's a very
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  80s, look. Oh my gosh, they spit you don't
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  understand doctor. I think Malcolm is my brother,
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  aren't you need? Not worry and episode of
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  EastEnders now and then. Well, yeah, but it's a
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  heightened. Isn't it for that?
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  But the clue has eight rows on her marks trixin.
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  Yeah, I think the nose because he's, because he's blond, but
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  they only dye his hair, but there is no.
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  But they did do something to his eyebrows, to make him to try and
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  make him look a bit more alien because the difficult chapter
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  comes in the end in the last episode, He's got sort of
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  peculiar looking eyebrows as well.
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  It should have just went all out and done the ones in invisible.
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  Enemy with a cushy little silver, silver apparent in that
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  close up. A bit of hairy chest on display.
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  I'm quite impressed with the representation of hot men.
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  Yeah, I'm there for it, but it's hot on em.
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  Was the planet called the in the sun sun sun.
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  But L we suffering from like episode free fatigue.
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  At this point like this is the plot really going anywhere.
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  He kind of ease but I think this is the point where it's sort of
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  because the characters being split off into groups, there
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  isn't kind of the yes somebody's been short periods.
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  Been kidnapped they're all going to lift the Masters told this
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  which is a column that's fallen over.
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  It kind of feels like it's almost Jackie Alden to feel like
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  it's dragging, because because there's a lot happening, but it
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  but it's not going to be happening very quickly.
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  Yeah. What is happening?
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  Is not all that Dynamic. I think you said earlier, Daniel
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  didn't you? There's a lot of instant but
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  there's just not a lot of emotion.
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  No, I don't, you know, this cut, those having these conversations
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  between the doctrine turlough but it's not.
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  There's not really Yeah, like you say Eric say with doesn't go
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  for emotion other than what sniping at each other.
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  Oh anger, whereas on the more just thin, sorry the most
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  convincing this is very heavy acting when they put the know.
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  It's not the most convincing. This is very heavy pillar.
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  Is it really not really no, but when to be favoring up in here,
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  we don't disorder. But these guys in the
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  background, I weren't the most convincing.
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  Backdrop over and that string. There's been all about the
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  production value apart, see where it landed on his head.
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  That's cool to meet the master because he's evil, not we'll
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  just make the master status. Black white is absolutely no,
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  they should be the face of losing its advertising the fact
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  that he's evil. Yeah.
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  I like the the the was it colony in space one where he had filing
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  cabinets? I mean, what proof of evil?
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  Do you need that? He's got In he's told he's got
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  torture tubes, and filing cabinets, bifel when he had that
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  sort of study with just the console in the middle.
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  Yeah, something a bit, functional diversity in the
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  media to just paint that will sit for y-yes.
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  No reason. But I'd also just noticing that
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  sort of there was a bit earlier with malcon, having the the
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  necklace. That's the transmitter thing.
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  The key Tim and offers Cold Wheels only?
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  Yeah, yes, he has. So they it's all like the sort
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  of cargo cult thing. Isn't it making things?
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  Objects of worship out of things that are meant to have another
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  function. Well, they're leaning into that
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  idea, on, they of a religious society that has been created
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  out of something technological. I think face of evil, did that
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  idea a lot better? And and sort of the whole
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  religion versus science and the two sides and the survey team.
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  And it was just it was a more it was for a dense that approach to
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  the same material whereas here, it's sort of thrown in the mix
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  with all this other stuff and it's interesting there's not a
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  lot of time to explore it really know.
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  This is another day in the Tardis who peer deep sincerity
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  of everyone get in the Tardis and just accepting it very.
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  Oh yeah. Okay, I don't remember seeing
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  him born. Oh my God it's this is a temple
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  or something. No no he's not a Believer but
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  although it is true with the new series as well like after sort
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  of rows and then the companions get the moment.
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  But then a lot of the other guest characters and they just
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  sort of go oh, that's bigger on the inside and we'll see if time
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  obviously, but it's yeah. It says you can place in
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  eliminate odors Janet Fielding says a Ferry routes.
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  Yes. Well, I think I've got a few
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  tissue compression level layers in the volcano.
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  Yeah, this is another really good sale think I'm very well
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  lit as well. Yes, I'm in a minute.
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  There's a bit fishy stamps on the Masters foot, like fucking
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  Wiley. Coyote and goes dashing about,
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  and the way for going to come in direct see it.
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  It seems like it's vast because she's going up and down sort of
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  corridors and things. Yeah.
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  She kicked his leg earlier as well.
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  Then she and then she realized it was a metal leg and yes,
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  yeah. Who knows where those are?
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  I've said that I think the production value is really good
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  in this. I do think this is Fiona
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  Cummings weakest direction of the force.
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  She did Castro valve. A snake dance.
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  Enlightenment. I think are all better directed.
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  Yes. And plenty of food.
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  What the snake dance and Enlightenment of Fairly much all
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  in studio but a bit of film but that's all done at healing.
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  So, Castro valve. You got the, the outside scenes
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  in part two of them three. Yeah, maybe her strengths are in
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  sort of more Studio where it's all very more contained.
• 23:07
  And as remember, somebody saying about snake dance, when the
• 23:13
  really good piece of Direction where it's Ambrose and Kayla are
• 23:17
  talking about the Mara. And then the were as soon as
• 23:22
  Ambrose says, the word evil. Lon not Martin clunes.
• 23:26
  His character sort of comes in to shop, in the background
• 23:28
  between them is really quite creepy.
• 23:31
  And in, sort of, I mean, I don't think it's badly directed, but I
• 23:35
  don't think it's, I think, maybe like you say, it's not as it's
• 23:40
  not as well thought out as as the other as Enlightenment,
• 23:43
  which has some really, really stunning ideas and stunning set
• 23:47
  pieces. I do wonder sometimes directly
• 23:50
  just get like fatigue. And it's like Chris claw who I
• 23:53
  think do. Direct some really good stories
• 23:56
  and then silver Nemesis is Last Story.
• 23:58
  It's almost like he's just found out completely, just point the
• 24:01
  camera them set some Sparks off, Let The sidemen Stomp about and
• 24:06
  that's that I look. So I'm going to say this and I
• 24:08
  know you don't hit me. All right, be a more fair.
• 24:14
  I think he has to reverse. I think he starts really strong
• 24:17
  with stay at decay. At what we did, you know, I
• 24:22
  think after that. Yeah.
• 24:27
  How have you gave a rousing defense of his direction of the
• 24:29
  visitation helping the visitations quite well, well,
• 24:34
  directed story, I think he's still got, I don't think it's as
• 24:37
  good as status, the State of Decay, but as some, I'm really
• 24:41
  enjoyed the visitation, I think is a really good strong story.
• 24:44
  This second here where they all go into the Tardis.
• 24:46
  This could be a story in its own, right?
• 24:48
  Yeah, that expecting to see a miracle going into this
• 24:52
  miraculous machine. Are you could do a whole story
• 24:55
  with that. Yeah, I think this suffers a bit
• 24:59
  from the extra acting because the three or four of them to
• 25:03
  steal just come here but there's no snow acted on their faces if
• 25:08
  you don't mean. Yeah.
• 25:10
  When's lunch time. Although then the waiter low
• 25:14
  says a doctor of some man in The Firm also like that feels a bit
• 25:18
  patronizing to the religious characters that are there.
• 25:22
  Yay. It's one of I think the other
• 25:25
  thing about that the With leader and her tribes.
• 25:30
  That is the idea of ending State of Decay as well.
• 25:34
  The idea of sort of social regression from mechanized
• 25:40
  Society, back to something else. Whereas, in this case, these are
• 25:46
  supposed to be the indigenous people of this planet, and
• 25:51
  that's where it gets, sort of it, just feels kind of
• 25:55
  uncomfortable these days to be like, I call these put the, you
• 25:58
  know, these these onion lighting to people worshipping machines
• 26:02
  and they don't know any better kind of thing.
• 26:04
  Whereas before, with the other ones, it was something happened
• 26:08
  in this place. And these people are like this
• 26:11
  because it just because it's sort of and it was played out
• 26:16
  with the Swampy's as well, and the others.
• 26:19
  I mean, how many planets were going to land on where you've
• 26:21
  got people in fraud technology that they don't understand.
• 26:24
  It gets a bit uncomfortable, I think.
• 26:29
  Did I that that bit of set? The doctor the master just took
• 26:32
  off that and started pressing buttons.
• 26:34
  That is exactly the same piece of equipment that in episode 2
• 26:38
  of our shop where there's no episode for sorry, where they're
• 26:41
  trying to stop this the times you, it's precisely the same
• 26:44
  triangle bit that he takes off, and it's precisely the same
• 26:46
  buttons that they press well. It's a control, control panel is
• 26:50
  a control panel in some new service.
• 26:53
  You know, we were saying earlier about all instant, no emotion.
• 26:57
  But I think, What they do in this or they save it all for
• 26:59
  episode 4 and I think those moments land, you get the
• 27:02
  Masters death lands, the doctors reaction to that turlough
• 27:06
  leaving which is an emotional moment.
• 27:08
  Perry joining wishes, Chi, Chi Chi's won't go watch it.
• 27:11
  Now, if what, I've just spoiled, I'm so sorry.
• 27:14
  I can't believe we just had it. You've just had a revelation
• 27:18
  plot, revelation of the priest saying that the blue flame from
• 27:24
  the volcano is is logo. Girl, showing his Mercy on the
• 27:29
  sick. So, now we know that the doctor,
• 27:34
  mmm. And the doctor is also saying
• 27:39
  suggesting that turlough knows more about the place than he's
• 27:43
  than he's letting on. Doesn't he say to him?
• 27:45
  Now, if you use this video. Yes.
• 27:47
  Yeah, our friendships. That's a good moment.
• 27:52
  Yeah, it is, you should have said that tell two stories or
• 27:56
  three stories ago, my opinion but or in Enlightenment.
• 28:01
  So if you try and kill me one more time, yeah.
• 28:08
  Don't talk training men with Strange Birds on their head.
• 28:12
  That's good advice to anyone, you know?
• 28:14
  Yes. When I recorded the Armageddon
• 28:18
  Factor commentary, Fraser Gregory turned up with a bloody
• 28:21
  bird on his ears. Oh, that was fabulous.
• 28:26
  L key or something like that. Almost, as funny as that taught
• 28:31
  me. Turned up with a duvet radish
• 28:33
  shoulders, when you did the dominant,
• 28:46
  Just take your clothes off. I'm sorry.
• 28:51
  Welcome. I mean, most of the most of the
• 28:54
  tribe seem to be wearing cutoff tracksuit bottoms, very short
• 28:57
  shorts. Yes, and t-shirts and they get,
• 28:59
  that's the other thing about the thing is that the setting and
• 29:05
  the sets are great, I think the control rooms and the caves and
• 29:10
  and everything. And obviously it's in an amazing
• 29:13
  environment. But there's something about the
• 29:17
  costumes that just looks a little bit School, Nativity
• 29:19
  Play. I was going to make a
• 29:22
  suggestion. Would you would you indulge me
• 29:24
  for a second Lucy? Why don't you scared right now?
• 29:30
  I'll just go say dress in black and get your dildo out and you
• 29:32
  could be the master, you know, that's my head.
• 29:38
  But we saw the tissue could piss eliminate or throbbing the
• 29:41
  Irwin. It's, I think I know what's
• 29:45
  going on. On your red right now, all
• 29:46
  right. And yet some of the line from my
• 30:08
  slave you will baby all by the Hamming it up in this one.
• 30:17
  But what I love is the after her initial sort of what the hell,
• 30:21
  oh my God, it's him. She's like, kid, right here in
• 30:25
  say that. Yeah, he spare my life.
• 30:28
  The bit where she gets her shoe off and starts chasing him about
• 30:31
  is fucking hilarious. That's what do you say.
• 30:35
  Also, it's also real, isn't it already says he's having this he
• 30:38
  sees huge grandiose full of, but he's about this big.
• 30:40
  So of course, not scared of him. So he see emasculating a bit in
• 30:44
  this. No more than he is in Mark of
• 30:48
  the Rani. Oh, that's true.
• 30:50
  Yeah, look at it there. Okay.