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Attack of the Oscar Nominees 2! · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 6: The live transmission has begun, and we're into the final
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  Speaker 9: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the
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  Speaker 2: I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Michael.
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  Speaker 9: And we are back to round out this crazy Oscar episode.
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  Speaker 5: I have an important story to tell. Oh, God. Since
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  Speaker 5: we recorded the last episode, somebody took it upon themselves
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  Speaker 5: to send me a hard drive with a lot of memory,
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  Speaker 5: and they misunderstood my request the last episode, and they
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  Speaker 5: sent me a hard drive with everything on it.
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  Speaker 10: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: The whole internet. The universe is all contained.
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  Speaker 9: That's a pretty big hard drive.
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  Speaker 5: A couple terabytes.
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  Speaker 7: And how much of it was awesome?
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  Speaker 9: But contained within there is also all the songs you
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  Speaker 9: asked for.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 9: You have that going for you. And the secrets of
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  Speaker 9: the universe.
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  Speaker 5: What was most awesome is that everything can be compressed
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  Speaker 5: to a few terabytes on a hard drive. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 9: It was a pretty big hard drive. But still, it
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  Speaker 9: is impressive how much we can compress things.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, when you unzip it, it's all lossy. I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to get into the technical aspect of that.
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  Speaker 9: That's not where I just took that in. But anyway...
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  Speaker 9: It's a different podcast. It's a different podcast. Anyway, anything
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  Speaker 9: you guys would like to lead off with?
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  Speaker 5: I think we just sabotaged right from the get-go.
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  Speaker 2: On one of the previous episodes I was listening to,
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  Speaker 2: Killer Soundtrack, I was really impressed with some of the
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  Speaker 2: picks for best movie songs. Like the Kubrick picks.
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  Speaker 9: What was that guy's name? Doug Bradley?
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  Speaker 10: I think so.
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  Speaker 9: Because that guy's awesome. Again, that was my whole reason
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  Speaker 9: for doing it. You wouldn't expect us to sit down
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  Speaker 9: with a horror icon and talk music from the 60s
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  Speaker 9: and growing up in Liverpool and all this weird, cool
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  Speaker 9: music tie-in. He's pretty amazing. That turned out to be
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  Speaker 9: pretty great. And I just We're sitting there going, just
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  Speaker 9: keep talking about music because this is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So I was just thinking as a counterbalance for my
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  Speaker 2: feelings about these movie songs that we're discussing, I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking of some of the greatest all-time movie songs.
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  Speaker 5: Not necessarily Oscar songs, just great movie songs.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking about.
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  Speaker 9: Shouldn't that be its own episode? Don't you want to
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  Speaker 9: do Fred's picks of greatest movie songs ever?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if my observations have
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  Speaker 2: that much scope.
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  Speaker 5: I want to hear your observations.
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  Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying. I think you warrant your own
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  Speaker 9: movie picks episodes. I say you just start writing those
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  Speaker 9: down right now. And this week we'll just round out
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  Speaker 9: the Oscars. Because I think we're just opening the biggest
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  Speaker 9: can of worms ever when Fred's favorite movie songs come out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've already mentioned, like, you know, Fitzcarraldo, like, recontextualized
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  Speaker 2: opera for me. The opposite of that, I think, was
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  Speaker 2: Freebird in Elizabethtown. That may be the worst thing I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen.
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  Speaker 9: You do love you some Skinner.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, they said, you know, yeah, we're doing
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  Speaker 2: Freebird in the movie, but it's okay. I think Jim
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  Speaker 2: James said, it's okay, though, because it's the guy's favorite
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  Speaker 2: and it's his wedding. And I'm like, yeah. What are
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  Speaker 2: you going to do? Make an imaginary guy change his
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  Speaker 2: favorite song on the day of his non-existent wedding?
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  Speaker 3: No, you've got to do Free Bird.
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  Speaker 2: Naturally.
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  Speaker 9: Performed by Adam Levine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Call back till last episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, then I'll just say one of my favorite
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  Speaker 2: songs of all time.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Songs in a movie were in Boogie Nights. I just
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  Speaker 2: love that soundtrack. But I really love the one they
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  Speaker 2: were trying to record.
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  Speaker 11: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: Well, that one's awesome because it's a movie song within
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  Speaker 9: another movie itself, and it just loops upon it.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, are we talking about Feel the Heat, Feel My Heat,
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  Speaker 5: or You Got the Touch? Because they did both.
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  Speaker 12: Of those, right?
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  Speaker 9: That's the one I was thinking of. You Got the
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  Speaker 9: Touch is its own movie song that then gets looped
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  Speaker 9: into that movie.
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  Speaker 2: In my director's cut, they just go from one end.
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  Speaker 12: To the other.
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  Speaker 9: Well, and isn't it odd that.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like Abbey Road.
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  Speaker 5: The back end of Abbey Road?
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  Speaker 9: The Boogie Nights character then ends up in Transformers. Ah,
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  Speaker 9: I figured that out. It's all been in.
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  Speaker 5: The fast-talking guy in Transformers. What a lousy... Let's not
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  Speaker 5: talk about Transformers.
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  Speaker 9: Let's move on. Yeah, so I didn't want this one
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  Speaker 9: to be our final song because it's going to be depressing.
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  Speaker 9: So I thought we would lead off with that, and
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  Speaker 9: then we can work our way out of it. I'm
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  Speaker 9: not ready for this. I mean, that's kind of what
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  Speaker 9: sells this song, is how sad and emotional it kind
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  Speaker 9: of is. This is I'm Not Gonna Miss You from
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  Speaker 9: Glen Campbell, and the documentary they made about him, which
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  Speaker 9: I don't think I knew was out there until it
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  Speaker 9: got nominated for this, and now I'm kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 9: now I guess I need to see this, because Glen Campbell,
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  Speaker 9: It'll Be Me is the movie, and the... Music and
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  Speaker 9: lyrics by Glen Campbell and Julian Raymond.
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  Speaker 13: I'm still here, but yet I'm.
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  Speaker 10: Gone I.
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  Speaker 6: Don't play guitar or sing my song It never defined
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  Speaker 6: who I am The man that loved you till.
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  Speaker 10: The end.
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  Speaker 13: You're the last person.
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  Speaker 10: I will love You're the last place I will recall.
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  Speaker 14: I'm not gonna miss you. I'm not gonna miss you.
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  Speaker 13: I'm never gonna hold you like I did. I say
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  Speaker 13: I love you to the kids You're.
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  Speaker 10: Never gonna see it in my eyes.
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  Speaker 13: It's not gonna hurt me when you cry I'm.
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  Speaker 10: Never gonna know what you go.
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  Speaker 14: Through I'm not gonna miss you. I'm not gonna miss you.
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  Speaker 7: Was it nominated for a documentary as well?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was.
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  Speaker 9: We can double check.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a fan of Glen Campbell. I've had three favorite
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  Speaker 5: songs in my life. One was Total Eclipse of the Heart.
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  Speaker 15: Nice.
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  Speaker 5: Two is Rock Steady by The Whispers. And three is
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  Speaker 5: Wichita Alignment by Glen Campbell. Those are my three favorite
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  Speaker 5: all-time songs.
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  Speaker 9: Nice.
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  Speaker 5: That song's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I like Homer Simpson's version of it.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't heard it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's great. He does it like he resents having
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  Speaker 2: Muzak while he's on hold, so he sings it into
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  Speaker 2: the phone.
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  Speaker 3: I'll get pipe and music to you.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 7: I enjoyed it from the Oprah and Gail road trip episode.
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  Speaker 5: Wichita, Lima?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 9: This is why you don't watch Oprah.
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  Speaker 7: This is exactly why you watch Oprah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And Gail loves that song almost as much.
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  Speaker 10: As you do.
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  Speaker 9: The fact that I know who Gail is makes me sad.
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  Speaker 7: But Oprah hates it when Gail sings along to it.
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  Speaker 5: Those two.
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  Speaker 9: You know that makes me sad as well.
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  Speaker 10: Those two.
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  Speaker 5: My good Lord. Oprah and Gail. Will it never stop?
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  Speaker 9: It is not nominated for documentary feature. So, what were
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  Speaker 9: they thinking?
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  Speaker 5: What is the story behind this movie? Did they film
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  Speaker 5: him in his last days of life or something? That's
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  Speaker 5: kind of what the video looked like?
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  Speaker 9: Essentially... I mean, he's because... He has Alzheimer's, does he not?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he does. And apparently it's very final stages right now.
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  Speaker 9: And that's, I mean, to me, the fact that the
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  Speaker 9: song is I'm not going to miss you is already
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  Speaker 9: kind of heartbreaking considering the subject matter.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't know if they started filming the documentary
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  Speaker 7: and then he was diagnosed. I feel like that's the
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  Speaker 7: only way that this documentary could be acceptable. I have
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  Speaker 7: not seen it, but. Just watching the video, it seemed
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  Speaker 7: wildly exploitative. I did not like the scenes of him
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  Speaker 7: standing in the studio while they're holding the paper for
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  Speaker 7: him to read the lyrics. It just felt wrong.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, at the same time, that is the point
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  Speaker 9: it's trying to make, right? I mean, I guess it depends.
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  Speaker 9: If you want to do a retrospective on his great
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  Speaker 9: career or you want to capture the fact that this
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  Speaker 9: is going on and maybe... make people more aware of
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  Speaker 9: it or make people understand what it is and how
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  Speaker 9: it attacks people and ruins their lives. Like, I guess
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  Speaker 9: it depends which movie you're trying to make.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I haven't seen it, so it's really conjectured
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  Speaker 7: just based on me having seen that, you know, 90 seconds.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, in a way, almost all Oscar movies
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  Speaker 2: seem to me like they're exploiting something serious just to, like,
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  Speaker 2: further people's careers.
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  Speaker 9: They kind of are.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of the movies on this list are doing that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I always feel like Well, yeah, I care about that,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not sure about squeezing it for showbiz juice.
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  Speaker 2: It's always kind of something that makes me uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 9: Tell that to The Theory of Everything or The Imitation
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  Speaker 9: Game or all of these movies.
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay with creativity contests as long as you just
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  Speaker 2: kind of have a sense of humor about it.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't like you know, when you.
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  Speaker 2: Take it that seriously, it just seems so stupid.
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  Speaker 3: You know, as long as.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun and everybody, you know, it is nice to
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  Speaker 2: recognize people, but, I mean, there's no real best picture
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  Speaker 2: or any best, you know.
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  Speaker 9: Which was my point last time. It was like, the
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  Speaker 9: fact that you can pick a best, I think it's
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  Speaker 9: so cliche that, oh, it's an honor to be nominated, but, like,
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  Speaker 9: I do like the actual, like, okay, we're going to
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  Speaker 9: at least give people something to strive for. Again, it's
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  Speaker 9: become more of a financial... thing along the way that's
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  Speaker 9: the only reason producers want to do it is because
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  Speaker 9: they know they can re-release it and get a huge
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  Speaker 9: boost after that or they'll drive up the DVD sales
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  Speaker 9: or whatever and even like the actors themselves like get
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  Speaker 9: a huge pay boost when they you know but now
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  Speaker 9: I'm an Oscar winner I'm gonna get twice as much
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  Speaker 9: so it becomes very financial but again I hope there's
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  Speaker 9: a level of artistic integrity there that like we're striving
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  Speaker 9: to make this good because it needs to be made
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  Speaker 9: as an interesting movie and not just, you know, squeezing
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  Speaker 9: movie juice.
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  Speaker 10: Out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so, like, yeah, I like Glen Campbell. I remember
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  Speaker 2: liking Glen Campbell, but I didn't like this song. It
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  Speaker 2: sounds like Lake John Lennon, like, just so blatantly.
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  Speaker 7: It's a lemon of a Lennon.
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  Speaker 5: It sounded like it had the Beatles anthology treatment done
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  Speaker 5: to it. Like, you know, they took the tape of
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  Speaker 5: his voice and they just... free as a bird yeah
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  Speaker 5: that's exactly how it sounded to me yeah.
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  Speaker 2: With a little bit of like an imagine opening yeah just.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah like they spliced it together using pre-existing things with
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  Speaker 5: what they had because they didn't have much.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah I was sad it was a song but I
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  Speaker 7: was even sadder that it was a bad song.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah I mean again it's just the way that
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  Speaker 9: it comes together is so sad that like it's hard
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  Speaker 9: to judge it any other way it's just like oh
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  Speaker 9: god like it's The idea of what's going on is
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  Speaker 9: so overwhelming that it's hard to look at it as
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  Speaker 9: a song on its own. So, let's move on. Something
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  Speaker 9: uplifting like being stranded in space for decades as we
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  Speaker 9: move into Interstellar. I think this one is probably the
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  Speaker 9: of the scores I think maybe outside of Grand Budapest Hotel,
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  Speaker 9: the most functional of the bunch. I think They made
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  Speaker 9: a lot of really clever choices in doing this that
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  Speaker 9: like there are times when they're in space and they
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  Speaker 9: pull out the score and there will not be anything
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  Speaker 9: for some of the time. And I think that's kind
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  Speaker 9: of a gutsy move at this point because now everything
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  Speaker 9: has to have a blurring score, especially for big action,
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  Speaker 9: you know, sci-fi kind of movies. And there are times
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  Speaker 9: when I feel like they dial it back and there
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  Speaker 9: are moments when it's a really toned down score and
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  Speaker 9: But then there's times when it kicks in and it is, like,
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  Speaker 9: you see, oh, yeah, Hans Zimmer is pretty talented. Like,
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  Speaker 9: the one I picked, I think, is the best example
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  Speaker 9: of when it works at its best is the Mountains.
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  Speaker 9: If you've seen it, it's very obvious, I guess, when
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  Speaker 9: it comes into play. But, yeah, this is Hans Zimmer Mountains,
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  Speaker 9: and I think it's arguably the most interesting and effective
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  Speaker 9: songs on the whole soundtrack.
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  Speaker 10: So so Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I listened to this track, and what I thought was
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  Speaker 5: it took way too long. This is just me basing.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't seen the movie. I don't know anything about
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  Speaker 5: the movie. I was just listening to it as a song,
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  Speaker 5: and I thought this is taking way too long to
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  Speaker 5: get to becoming a song.
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  Speaker 9: But I feel that way with most score numbers.
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  Speaker 5: I feel that way with most music, period.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because my attention span in the age of the internet
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  Speaker 5: has shot down dramatically.
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  Speaker 9: That's true.
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  Speaker 5: The reason I don't watch movies is because I have
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  Speaker 5: to commit a certain amount of time. That's why I
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: can watch 12 hours of a TV show because... It's like,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: you've only got 20 minutes, just watch one episode. Before
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  Speaker 5: I know it, I've seen five seasons in a sitting.
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  Speaker 9: I don't fall for that.
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  Speaker 5: I do. I'm incredibly weak. Series work. I can't watch.
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  Speaker 5: If you say, okay, this movie's 85 minutes, I'm like, fuck,
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  Speaker 5: I have to spend 85 minutes sitting here looking at
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  Speaker 5: the television? But if you say this episode of this
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: TV show is 19 minutes long, I'm like, fine, let's
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  Speaker 5: watch the whole season. Because I can get up and
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: walk away and we'll have seen it in small manageable
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  Speaker 5: chunks without missing it.
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  Speaker 9: There is a pause button, you know. Since we've established
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  Speaker 9: you don't leave the house to see movies.
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  Speaker 2: Like, if you told me, like, one of these Oscar
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  Speaker 2: movies I haven't seen, like, sit down and watch that,
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  Speaker 2: I'd kind of be like, oh, God. But if you
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  Speaker 2: were like, I'm going to watch, like, all of The
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  Speaker 2: Sopranos again.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do that.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know. I just think that when, again, the
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  Speaker 9: whole rest of it is so understated. that I feel
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  Speaker 9: like it only works in the context of the movie.
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  Speaker 9: I think if you were sitting around listening to a
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  Speaker 9: lot of those other tracks in your car, which I
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  Speaker 9: guess Lucy was, I don't know, Like, to me, it
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  Speaker 9: would just be like, oh, my God, can I just
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  Speaker 9: turn on the radio? Like, I feel like you would
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  Speaker 9: get tired of those really, those, I mean, it is that, again,
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  Speaker 9: that dividing line of, like, does it work on its
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  Speaker 9: own as a song or does it need to be
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  Speaker 9: in the context of the movie? And I feel like
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  Speaker 9: almost all of those, like, just work as sort of
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  Speaker 9: background music. I think, again, that one was. Which is
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  Speaker 9: its job. It ends like being the most entertaining, you know,
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  Speaker 9: way more interesting and exciting type of music on that track.
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  Speaker 9: But that's why I picked that track because almost every
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  Speaker 9: other one is really slow and very sedate. Not in
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  Speaker 9: a bad way in context of the movie, but on
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  Speaker 9: its own, they're kind of hard to take.
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  Speaker 7: I actually canceled my plans to listen to all of
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  Speaker 7: the soundtracks. I'll have you know.
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  Speaker 10: Wow.
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  Speaker 9: That was not my fault.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: No, not.
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  Speaker 9: You signed on for this, Tina. You could have whistled
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: out like the rest of the crew.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: I thought we were just talking, like had to listen
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: to the songs and not the soundtracks. But then we
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: didn't have to listen to the songs. I just failed.
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: That's why I picked one. But I did start it
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: from the beginning. And I seriously thought there was something
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: wrong with my computer. Because for three full minutes, there's
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: almost nothing. There's almost no sound. So it does not
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: stand alone. I mean, I saw the movie. And it
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: took me to places. I had emotional reactions in an
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: appropriate way.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: Does any of that surprise you about Hans Zimmer? Like,
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: that's kind of how he operates.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But almost nothing is still, by definition, still something, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: therefore part of everything.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: And everything is awesome.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: And that's on my hard drive. They sent it to me.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: But I want to see if I got this straight. Okay,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: so you canceled plans to listen to these songs.
• 21:29
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: You live in Lexington.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: You drove here after canceling plans to listen to these songs.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: MVP or what?
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: To talk about these songs.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: And to have almost no opinion on any of the scores.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: That is amazing.
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: She's very dedicated. I question her sanity sometimes, but she's
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: very dedicated.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: If there's a victor in this circle, it has to
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: be you, because that's more effort than I put into it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: Lucy, thank you very much.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, guys.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Good job. Good job. Very impressive. All right, carry on.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: People will cancel and stuff, but it's like Lucy says
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I'm in. It's like, oh, there's an episode then.
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: Now it's payback. Let's talk about Wild.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Or the sequel, Beasts of the Southern Wild.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I thought you were rooting for Reese to get the Oscar.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: I will actually say I loved Laura Dern in that movie,
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: and so I'm not rooting against Wild. And I did
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: not hate Wild. And I didn't hate Reese Witherspoon in Wild.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Because you and Reese, like, We have some issues.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: We have some issues.
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: I think she called like she was behind her in
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: the car at one point and went, this car in
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: front of me is weaving around, officer. You might want
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: to check into this. And like later we all kind
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: of heard how it turned out. But that was Lucy.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: An anonymous tip is an anonymous tip, Brian.
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: Thank you very much.
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: Not now.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: It's your civic duty.
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: You have been outed.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Actually, I thought Reese Witherspoon was great. I don't know
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: why I did not think I would like this movie.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: Not that we're talking about this movie.
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: It's an Oscar-nominated movie. We can reference it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: I thought she was great, and this is even weirder
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: for me to say, I thought she was really sexy
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: in this movie. I did not know she was capable
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: of being sexy. Which movie?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Wild.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Okay. Now, Reese Witherspoon, do you remember the Anne Hathaway,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Keira Knightley conversation we had?
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: I do, from way back last week.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: From last week. Well, I don't know if we decided
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: to victor, but Reese Witherspoon, I have the same sort
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: of combat going on in my head with Julia Stiles.
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: Oh, interesting.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: I can see that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I'd give that to Julia Stiles.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: See, I can't do it. I don't know why. When
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: she first came onto the scene, I was like, all right.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: There's something here with this girl. And then I saw
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: her in Dexter and I was like, I hate this woman.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Make her go away. She's a terrible actress. I don't
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: believe her. I don't like her.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: I don't hate that season. Most people do, though.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: It was a terrible season of Dexter.
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: You watched it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Welcome to Michael Hates Dexter.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: I could do a Dexter podcast. I have a lot
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: to say.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a similar battle in my head for
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: those two.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Just before Julia Stiles showed up, I guess.
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't know. I think that would be more
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: of like this is your personal pick. Because I think
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: if we're taking professional into it, Reese kind of like
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: blows her out of the water.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: So I think Reese has certainly made more of a
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: career for herself. Julia's trying, I suppose. Every once in
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: a while I see her turn up. I'm like, she
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: is still acting. Look at her.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: But to be honest, even.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I liked Reese so much in Elections.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: But then beyond that.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: She's so good in that because she's playing a terrible
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: pain in the ass.
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: Again, my intro was Freeway. I love Freeway more than
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: most people need to. It's a disturbing movie for me
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: to be as connected as I am.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: How much do people need to?
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: A lot because it's pretty awesome. But I love it
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: a little more than even is healthy. But yeah, she
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: is so good at playing this trashy character. that I'm like,
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: where was she drawing from? And then later you see, oh,
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: that's kind of it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Is that the movie based on the fairy tale?
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: Yes. Little Red Riding Hood.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's very Little Red Riding Hood-ish.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the two movies I've seen that I thought she
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: was okay in, I haven't seen anything that I really
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: enjoyed particularly with her in it, but I liked the
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: movie with.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Ryan Gosling, The Thomas Crown Affair, whatever that movie was.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm talking about, right? Or Ryan... Sarah
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Michelle Gellar was in it, maybe?
• 25:26
  Speaker 10: Oh, Ryan Phillippe.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the one I was like, okay.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: Then to be husband, then to be ex-husband.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Yes, that movie. That movie was all right.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: Dangerous Liaisons.
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: Cruel Intentions. And it's really entertaining. I won't say it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: a masterpiece, but it's ridiculously entertaining.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: I thought it was all right, and there was a
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: movie I saw because it was on TV once, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I had nothing better to do, and she got kidnapped
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: by one of the Wilson brothers or something, and they
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: fell in love, and they were like, being chased by
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: monster trucks, and she was also kind of trashy in that,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: and it took place in the desert, and it was
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: a very late 90s kind of.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: I feel like you're describing Excess Baggage, but with a
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: different cast.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: It was a romantic.
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: He's currently making this movie. Reese, if you'd like to
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: get a hold of him.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: No, it was some romantic, like, either they were kidnappers
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: or they were bank robbers or something, but it was very, like, romantic,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: fighting against the law, racing against time, but it was
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: a comedy.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the name of that was.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It was like kind of an ordinary life or something.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: A lifeless ordinary.
• 26:32
  Speaker 16: No.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: But a lifeless ordinary has the best cardigan song on it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: On the soundtrack. That soundtrack is a soundtrack that should
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: be nominated for an Oscar. I'm mixing it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Up with a comeback. I just kind of like it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I saw the first movie she was ever in. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: saw Under Strange Circumstances because I wanted to see the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: movie about Andy Kaufman. I'm not a big fan of,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: what's his name?
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: Jim Carrey.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Jim Carrey. I couldn't stand him early on, but I
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: kind of thought I'd rather see him play Andy Kaufman
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: than even see Andy Kaufman. And so this was back
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: in the days of VHS tapes, and I went to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: like a place, and it was called like Man on
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the Moon, right? And so I pick out the movie,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I rent it, I'm driving home, and I think of
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the REM song, If You Believe, and I see the
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: spine of it in the seat of the car, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: it says, Man in the Moon. And I'm like, nobody
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: believes they put a fucking man in the moon.
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: Except Reese Witherspoon. What the fuck is this?
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: What did I rent, and why?
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: And it was a Reese Witherspoon movie?
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: It's like that classic 28 Days Later mix-up.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, and both are weirdly obsessed with Elvis. There's like
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: this whole weird connection between the movies.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Like she's this kid who's.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Obsessed with Elvis. And then for some reason, like the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: bass player from REM is in the background. No, probably not.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I might be making that up. But yeah, it's a
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: weird little movie. Sam Waterson, is that it?
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: From Law and Order fame? From Law and Order fame?
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Wasn't he on Law and Order?
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: From Rancho Deluxe fame.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Rancho Deluxe, all right.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: What's that other thing, like the Aaron Sorkin, the newsroom?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I think he just died in that this last season.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: That's a spoiler.
• 28:30
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, sorry.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Whoops.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Wah, wah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: He might be hanging on.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: Mild newsroom spoilers.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: That needs to be a tag.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: He might be hanging in there. I have no idea.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: He just was looking a little pale and not, you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: I took a picture of him eating soup once.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah?
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah. You were eating.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Soup and took a picture of him or he was
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: eating soup?
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: We might have both been eating soup. I can't remember
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: if I was or wasn't, but yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: I like your old celebrity stalker stories. Every once in
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: a while, they just sort of pop up all on
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: their own, and I'm like, another creepy move from Lucy.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Well, it's really great, actually, because obviously I pretended to
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: be taking a picture of my friend Vic, but... of
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: whom I did not need another picture.
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: The fact that you came up with a side story
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: to cover the fact that it makes it a really stalker.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: But you can see him in the background in focus
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: really earnestly eating the soup. Like I feel like it's
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: a really good celebrity.
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: He was very sincere about that soup. Man, this is
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: good soup.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And did you have to tell your friend Vic, I'm sorry,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I know it looked like I was taking a picture
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: of you. But actually, I have enough pictures of you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: I was looking past you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: He knew what I was doing.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: I'm going to Photoshop you out later. Are you okay
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: with that?
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: So the Life Less Ordinary podcast, right?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about Velvet Divorce, the best sneaker pimp song,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: which is also on that soundtrack.
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: We're just going to bring you back for that one.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: You're going to have to come back and do your own,
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: much like Fred, so you can pick your favorites.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: We could co-do.
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: I don't think we could. I think that's like six
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: episodes between the two of you. Speaking of which, that
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: Reese tangent brought to you by Lucy. All right, moving on. So,
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: Grateful from Beyond the Lights. Music and lyric by Diane Warren.
• 30:24
  Speaker 12: There were a lot of tears I had to cry
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: through A lot of battles left me battered and bruised
• 30:30
  Speaker 12: And I was shattered, had my heart ripped in two
• 30:33
  Speaker 12: I was broken, I was broken There were a lot
• 30:37
  Speaker 12: of times I stumbled and crashed When I was on
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: the edge, down to my last chance So many times
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: when I was so convinced that I was over, I
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: was over But.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: I had to fall.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: To rise above it all I'm grateful.
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: For the sun Made me appreciate the sun I'm grateful
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: for the.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: Rose Made me appreciate the rose.
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: For everything that made.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Me pray I'm thankful for all my scars Cause they
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: only make.
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: My heart Grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful.
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: Grateful I was thinking I was drowning in All the
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: pain was weighing me down Pulled it together and I
• 31:44
  Speaker 12: pulled myself out Learned a lesson, learned a lesson That
• 31:49
  Speaker 12: there's a lot you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 16: Gotta go through, hell yes But that's what got me strong,
• 31:53
  Speaker 16: I got no regrets And I got only love, got
• 31:56
  Speaker 16: no bitterness Count my blessings, count my blessings.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah I'm proud of everything, yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: Cause they got me here.
• 32:12
  Speaker 16: I'm grateful for the sun.
• 32:15
  Speaker 10: Make me appreciate the sun. I'm grateful for the road.
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: Make me appreciate the road. I'm grateful for the pain.
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: For everything that made me pray.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I'm thankful for all my scars. Cause they only make
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: my heart. I'm grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful.
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: Grateful.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: There is nothing I would change. Not even one mistake
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I made.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: I got lost. Found myself, found my way.
• 33:07
  Speaker 16: I'm grateful for the sun. Made me appreciate the sun.
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: I'm grateful for the wrong ones. Made me appreciate the
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: right ones.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful for the fame.
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: For everything that made me all. I'm thankful for all
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: my scars.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Cause they only make.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful.
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: I'm grateful. You know that I'm grateful.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: You know that I care.
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: No time for the wrong ones. I'll always be there. Grateful.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I'm afraid I may have actually mixed up a couple
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: of those soundtracks and my comments make no sense whatsoever
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: they were not that memorable for me but I do
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: remember that this is the song that I'm aware of
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: this from recording songs myself at home sounds like it
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: has a dog barking This.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Is the one that sounds super, super shiny, like scientists
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: made the music, right?
• 34:36
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: There's the dog.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I get that in a lot of my tunes.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Not every child has to be without health care. Only yours.
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: See, I feel like this one, it's not horrible. It's
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: just run of the mill. I feel like I've heard
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: so many songs kind of like this in the last
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: couple of years that I couldn't have told you who
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: this one was. I would have mistaken it for about
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: five other women. There's a mode in songwriting in the
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: last 10 years or so that stuff will fall into
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: about one of four or five categories. And there will
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: be 12 songs that sound just like each of those categories.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: It's the Alicia Keys syndrome. Which one? The Alicia Keys syndrome.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: She does have.
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: A very distinctive sound that not everybody wants to do.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: One Alicia Keys song gets really big, and suddenly there
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: are a million songs that are trying to be that
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: next Alicia Keys song. And this sounds like one of
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: those homogenized songs.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: It's a song.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: It has that lovely phrasing where it goes, I'm.
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: Grateful for this.
• 35:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Here's my feeling about this. I feel like Diane Warren
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: is like the Meryl Streep of the best song category.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: I feel like when you have to round out a
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: category and you don't have enough songs, you're like, well, shit,
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: Diane Warren had to have done something.
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: All right, Diane Warren as the fifth nominee.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: And so you just bring her in. Because when you
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: look at the songs that she has gotten Academy Awards for,
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: like Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now, clearly this is subpar
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: Diane Warren.
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: We needed a fifth song that year.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: And I feel like maybe she's trying to cash in
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: on the hashtag grateful thing. And that's all.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: She should be hashtag fuck those guys. That's what the
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: hashtag should be.
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's the hashtag that's sweeping the nation. I
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: think really she should get behind that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: To me, it's just like the song is about me
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: being grateful. And isn't that great? It's not about the
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: stuff that's great that I'm grateful for. It's like, Isn't
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it cool that I'm this grateful person?
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: I'm so grateful. Isn't that awesome?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It's like that Facebook post.
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: It's like a song about... So basically what you're saying
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: is it's hashtag blessed.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: I am so blessed and I'm grateful. Hashtag fuck those guys.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Hashtag fuck all of those guys. I remember the point
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I was going to make, and now it's dumb, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I can't believe I'm going to say it out loud.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: But this song sounds like something that should be performed
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: on that show for Adam Levine in front of him. Okay,
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: show us what you got. Play that Oscar song in
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: front of this other dude that did an Oscar song.
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: It probably will be now.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Boy, that was a dumb point. Why did I even
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: waste my breath with that?
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: Because you love Adam Levine.
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: Because we have to mention him at least three times
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: per episode now. It did teach me who Rita Ora is, though,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: because I'd seen pictures of her in fashion magazines and
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: Us Weekly and had no idea who she was, and
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: now I do.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Didn't take with me. I still don't know.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: You still have no clue.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know who she is. I still have no idea.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: It's like when I watched Frozen and I still haven't
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: heard the song.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: I remember when you did that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: It's weird how that happens. You could be in bed
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: and hear that song.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: The Imitation Game?
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: The Return of Alexander Desla.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: I guess this will be the intro track, self-titled The
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: Imitation Game.
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: The Imitation Game Thank you. Thank you. It is the
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: most important thing in life. It is the most important
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: thing in life. It is the most important thing in life.
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: It is the most important thing in life.
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: Again, this is another very polished, very well put together
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: soundtrack entries that, do you really leave the theater humming it?
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: It's just sort of there, and it sounds very Oscar worthy,
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: but is it?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: The clip I heard, I immediately thought, oh, it's like
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: European melancholy with sort of a music box sound. And
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I told Lynn, it sounds like something You might be
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: hearing when you were looking at a quaint shop in Hogwarts.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And then it turned out I think he did like
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Deathly Hallows 1 and 2. It has that.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Not really melancholy.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: It's not really sad, but it's just a kind of
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: wistful something. But yeah, it's definitely a sound we've heard.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Now let me float this by you. Tell me how
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: this grabs you. Make a game... You get a bunch
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: of musical artists together and you make them fight to
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: the death. They all have to record a version of
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: the imitation game. And whoever does it best, that's the
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: band that gets to survive and the rest gets thrown
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: into a pit full of fire and wolves and gorillas
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: with robot heads. The imitation game about the imitation game.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Documentary style.
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: This is like band battle royale.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: Because I'm on board for that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Mix with that scene from whatever the movie is where
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: they're tossing the kids into the pit and they have to...
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: What movie was that? Kroll? I don't know.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: Let's call it Maze Runner. All right.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Imitation game.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Meta.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: The imitation game.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Game. And then you play the home game?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: The home game.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Based on the movie?
• 42:19
  Speaker 10: Uh-huh.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Based on the song?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, and here I've got snacks to go with it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I think there should be a snack called Oscar nominees.
• 42:28
  Speaker 16: Uh-huh.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Like nom, nom, nom nominees?
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: A nominee, it sounds to me like it should be
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: some sort of hors d'oeuvre that you could.
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: Soon to be featured at Oscar Melding.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I like this. We have so many good ideas.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: Why are we not rich?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: That's what I don't understand.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why I haven't got a MacArthur grant.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I don't understand that either.
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: Have you filed for one? Because it's usually a lot
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: of paperwork involved. I think that's with all these grants.
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: There's like four or five years worth of paperwork and lawyers. So, yeah.
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: Get involved. Somebody start doing their paperwork for us. But
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: I was looking at Alexander's lineup here because it's like
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: I know he's like super well established.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I know he's done a lot of things with Wes Anderson.
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: He's done a ton of stuff. But that's what I
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: think is funny because like that's the one we were
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: so impressed with last time around. was the Grand Budapest
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: Hotel soundtrack, which is so varied and so different.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: And you've got a good memory.
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, those last whole weeks.
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: But this, to me, seems so cookie-cutter. It feels so
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: Oscar-ish that I was just like, how is this the
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: same guy?
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: Allow me to present this. That's kind of the difference
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: in those two movies. I mean, this movie is one
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: of those movies.
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: But they both ended up getting nominated for Best Picture.
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but Grand Budapest is interesting and quirky and the
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: things that you want a movie to be, and this
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: is very cookie-cutter Oscar movies, so he kind of made
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: a soundtrack that fits the film.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I believe this is the one he did in three
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: weeks and not just wrote, but also wrote and got
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: it performed.
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: And it kind of sounds like it. It's like, what
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: were we saying?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: It's his on-the-road novel.
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: He did it on a single.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Sheet of paper fed through a musical typewriter.
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: Looking back, I even played him last year because he
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: also did the soundtrack for Godzilla, which, again, was kind
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: of fun and realized how ridiculous what it was it
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: was doing and just went with it and was very
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: loud and overplayed on all the instruments. That's kind of
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: what you're looking for when Godzilla's trashing things.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: He's in the triangle. The guy on the triangle.
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: He bent the hell out of me. So yeah, I mean,
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: he does like these super Oscar-y kind of movies, and
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: then he'll show up on, you know, that kind of stuff.
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: So he's a very strange composer.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: I haven't really referenced my notes much, but for this
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: song I wrote, this sounds like Philip Glass except for
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: normal people.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Philip Glass for normal people.
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: And yes, did in fact do Deathly Hallows Part 1
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: and 2.
• 45:08
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: As well as the Twilight Saga colon New Moon.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Colon new moon.
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: Don't you hate when you get a new moon crammed
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: in your colon? Lodged in there. It's not good. You've
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: got to see a doctor.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: If it weren't for my colon, I would never experience
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: a new moon.
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: Neither would the proctologist.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I just remember having it explained to me that in
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the books, the wolves wore little fanny packs to keep
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: their human clothes in. So when they transformed back into humans,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: they could get dressed.
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: It's so practical of them.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my favorite thing.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That may be the only thing I remember about those
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: movies is just having that explained to me. It's like, well, yeah,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: it's in the book. They wear these little packs. I
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: might get one for my dog.
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: Both of your dogs?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Both of my dogs.
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: Puppy and Angel have both been guests on the show.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Actually, I was thinking of getting Angel a caravan ride.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: thing to put on her back so that the puppy
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: can ride.
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: I like that a lot.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be a cool thing?
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I like it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I had already thought, because I repair rugs,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: of doing like a little rug sign that would drape
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: over Angel's back.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: Because Angel does not have enough reasons to resent that puppy.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: Just one more.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: She really does not. We have to work with her
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: What if you made a rickshaw for the big one
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: to pull the small one around her?
• 46:36
  Speaker 9: You would break the internet if you shot video.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: If you did that, that's the thing.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: Grant achieved. Grant status achieved.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: See, that's what I'm thinking.
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: You fill out the paperwork.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to make some videos, but I'm haunted by
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the idea they're not good enough. I need something like,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I need to put the puppies in it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: Either cute animals or people falling and hurting themselves.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: These are the essential elements for a viral video.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You've got to have something like that. And I keep
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: thinking it's almost there. It's almost what it needs to be.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: But it's not there yet.
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: Puppy Rickshaw might just push it over the edge.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There you go.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: And if nothing else, Puppy Rickshaw is an excellent band name.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: We need to start that. In addition to these six
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: other podcasts we've come up with, we need to start
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: band practice for Puppy Rickshaw.
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: All right, are we ready to round it out? We
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: only have one more song.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Well, depending. What about the also-rans? People always talk about,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: why isn't this an Oscar song?
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: I literally feel like there's not a sixth song. I
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: feel like those were the only five songs this year.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: Well, we already mentioned some disqualified ones.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I think in 2014 there were only two songs. No, seriously,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I think that's true. I think there were only two.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: in 2014 well.
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: That that's what i think is weird is when they
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: have some categories that are like okay we're dead set
• 47:58
  Speaker 9: this is five every time and then there's other years
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: they're like well there weren't that many good animated movies
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: so there's three you know i'm like there's only two
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: good costume designers in all of hollywood sorry.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: That's actually true i know well i'm.
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: Like why why do all these other people keep getting
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: work then if there aren't two or three other ones
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: you could throw in as a nomination but i think it's.
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: Even more amazing that they now do that with best
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: picture like nope there were eight there were eight good
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: movies that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: One no that one doesn't surprise me because that's all
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: about ratings yeah so i mean the other ones don't
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: even make sense like that one makes sense we want
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: to include a superhero movie so we'll get way more
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: people to watch but we know it's not gonna win
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: we're not even gonna nominate the director but we'll throw
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: the name in there and then people will be like
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: then they should fill out i wonder if thor will
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: come present which he probably will so yeah i'm just
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: like i yeah i don't know why like They don't
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: go along with that with some of these other ones
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: and just round it out with, like, and five more
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: costume designers. But no.
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: But I'm saying they don't round out the ten. Like,
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: they were like, you know what? From now on, we're
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: going to have ten.
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: Well, they did.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: And then every year since then, it's been eight.
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: It was set. It was ten every year for, like,
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: two whole years. And then they changed their mind again.
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: They were like, damn, we can't even come up with ten.
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: That's a lot of movies.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: How about we just make it between five and ten?
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: I'm like, you guys are just making shit up now.
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: you don't even know what the hell you're doing dear academy.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Do we don't blame al pacino for that though do we.
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: I blame him for most things you guys are on
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: board i.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Well you know the other one like the song from
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: boyhood um is not it's not nominated because the song
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: existed all I mean.
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: He was pulling nothing but old songs. I mean, I
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: guess that doesn't surprise me. But I think, like, wasn't
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: that the same thing with.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: The Lord song?
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: No, that should have been, though. I really liked that
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: one at the end of Hunger Games. That was awesome.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but I've heard the song. It's
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: a good song.
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: Again, she's just really talented for somebody that's weird. She
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: looks kind of.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Like Anne Hathaway at the beginning of The Princess Diaries.
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: Go on.
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: When she's like, You know, when she's like awkward and ridiculous.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: I just like that she's massively unconventional and does not
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: give a rat's ass who has problems with it. She's
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: just kind of like, eh, this is what I'm doing.
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: Screw you guys.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a really intelligent song. It's like
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: it goes along and it's kind of okay, but something
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: about in how many repetitions and how it builds. It's like, wow.
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: She's really creative with the beats of all of her songs.
• 50:25
  Speaker 9: And I'm like, she's freaking 15. It's kind of amazing.
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: When she started. Now, I guess, not so much.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: And I liked the Boyhood song, too, but I don't
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: remember noticing it in the movie at all. I did
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: see the movie, and I had no memory of it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: But then there are a couple of kids singing it
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: in their living room. It's an Internet thing. And I
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: heard it then, and it's like, oh, my God, that's amazing.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: It's like how I watched Frozen and never heard the
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Frozen song, never heard the Boyhood song when I watched Boyhood.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: But there's this kid, Nathan Leach, and his sister, Eva,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and they do that song in their kitchen. And it's
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: just a super cute video. I love the version of it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: Well, I was trying to think of that other one.
• 51:12
  Speaker 9: It's Whiplash. It's the one that's all about music, but
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: because I think it's all pre-existing stuff, it's like, well,
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: can't do anything with that. So, yeah, I don't know.
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a great score. That movie actually made
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: me feel like maybe I'm old enough to appreciate jazz now.
• 51:28
  Speaker 16: Oh, really?
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: You're finally edging your way up there, Grandma? I was
• 51:31
  Speaker 9: finally there.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: I was like, wait a minute. I'm kind of liking this.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: So you've passed me.
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: I'm now older than Fred.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Like those characters in War and Peace that age at
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: different rates. You pulled ahead.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: I caught jazz when I was young, so I don't
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: know how I did that. It's like a disease. It
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: was probably acid, actually.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I divide jazz into two categories. There's cat jazz and
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: dog jazz. Cat jazz is... is smarter and more restrained
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: and sort of like more like song jazz and then
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: dog jazz is where everybody takes a long solo and
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: pants like a dog with its tongue hanging out and
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: it just goes on endlessly and i don't care.
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: See i reverse that whole theory oh yeah because to
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: me dogs have a very set way of thinking everything
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: that comes out of a dog is kind of logical
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: in dog logic and makes sense Cats could give a
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: rat's ass about anything else going on in the world
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: and go on and do their own thing.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: To me, that's way more like the.
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: Jazz that I don't like is cat jazz.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: But what about the Aristocats?
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: They were way more traditional, but didn't they have dogs
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: in the band?
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, did they?
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: I believe they did.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I think they did.
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: I thought they were like the rhythm section was a
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: bunch of crazy beagles and whatnot. We're kind of making
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: stuff up.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: Is that a commentary on racism or something? Was that
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: what they were trying to do about that?
• 52:53
  Speaker 9: Witch Aristocats?
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: There were parts.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: I'm always looking for the palace shaped like a penis
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: in movies about.
• 53:00
  Speaker 9: Cats and dogs. There was a lot of weird underlying
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: stuff in the old Disney movies, so we probably best
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: not to dig into that, especially as we move forward
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: into this next song.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: This would be Glory from Selma, music and lyric by
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: John Stevens and Lonnie Lynn. We're going to round it
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: out with that because that's the big win. Because it's
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: going to win. I have very specific thoughts on the
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: song itself. How deep do we want to go into
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: this discussion?
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: I think we want to go pretty deep.
• 53:29
  Speaker 9: That's what we do. Go for it. Because mine's mostly song-based,
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: not so much... The controversy around it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't know there was controversy.
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: Well, the fact that they snubbed most of the people
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: involved in that film. The actor playing Martin Luther King
• 53:48
  Speaker 9: did not get a nomination. In fact, if you look
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: at all the nominations, there's nothing but a bunch of
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: white people. In a year where we're going through the
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: things that we've been going through... hey let's do nothing
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: but nominate a bunch of white people and ignore this
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: movie about overcoming racism like it really is a weird
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: year to throw this in there and I don't know. That,
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: to me, was a much bigger real-world issue.
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll throw in your hip-hop concession.
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's mine. I'm like, I could care less about
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: the dumb hip-hop things I think about it, which is
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: the only thing I really came up with. To me,
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: the much bigger issues there are the world issues going on.
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: I will say that I thought that category, Best Actor,
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: was really full this year.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: Best Actress, not at all. Really super weak. But Best Actor,
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: really full. So I didn't feel like he got snubbed.
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: I did feel like the director got snubbed. Clearly snubbed.
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: That was my two cents about that. For me, the film,
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: the song did the thing that I hate that they
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: do now, which is why do you take a period
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: film and then throw in like a new song at
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: the end? What should have been the most like emotionally
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: charged sort of final montage? That immediately takes you out
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: of it. And I don't know if it was trying
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: to create a bridge between past and present. Like, maybe, maybe.
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: But for me, it was just like, wait, why is
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: this happening right now? And I couldn't concentrate on the
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: film anymore.
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: There is a way to do that. Occasionally I see
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: it and it doesn't bother me. Well, I feel like.
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: First Night, was that like the first time it really
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: happened that people talked about it?
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: First Night was pretty noticeable. Again, that one really didn't.
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: But it was consistent throughout. Like, I feel like with
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: this movie, it was just like all of a sudden
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: at the end, like throughout the movie, there's period music.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: And then at the end.
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, then you get like Inglourious Bastards. It's
• 55:30
  Speaker 9: like period, period, like very score oriented. Yeah. And then
• 55:34
  Speaker 9: in the middle of it, David Bowie, which is an
• 55:36
  Speaker 9: amazing song. Oh, man.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: I feel like tonally that makes sense for.
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: A Tarantino film. That rubbed a lot of people the
• 55:41
  Speaker 9: wrong way at the time.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: You're talking about like the raindrops keep falling on my
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: head phenomenon.
• 55:46
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Where you're in a period of time and all of
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: a sudden... What the fuck is Burt Bacharach doing here?
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Where did he come from? You said David Bowie, though,
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: in that... God. Does anybody watch American Horror Story?
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: No.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: No?
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: Okay. Well, it takes place in the 50s, and they
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: keep performing David Bowie songs on the show that takes
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: place in the 50s, and it drives me crazy.
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: See, that's the thing. It drives a lot of people
• 56:12
  Speaker 9: crazy who get very caught up. To me, I've gotten
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: to the point where I just sort of let all
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: that stuff go because the whole thing is... made up
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: and it's it almost depends on how like artistic you're
• 56:23
  Speaker 9: taking everything if everything is just this big fantasy piece
• 56:27
  Speaker 9: that i'm slapping together and like i'm creating my own
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: world It really doesn't bother me. If everything else is
• 56:32
  Speaker 9: by the numbers and then somehow it's worked in as
• 56:35
  Speaker 9: though it were really there in that time period, it
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: makes no sense.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't bother me with Tarantino.
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: He can do whatever the fuck. To me, that was
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: the dividing line with the first night thing. It's not
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: first night, right?
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: I don't know. That's what I called it. I'm just
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: making shit up. A Knight's Tale.
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: A Knight's Tale is the one. And I actually like
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: the David Bowie song that they work in. I think
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: that scene works really well with that song. where I
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: call bullshit, is in the opening where they're playing Queen,
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: aren't they? I've never seen the movie. And the people
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: in the crowd scene are singing the lyrics to it. See,
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: I like that. They're like chanting.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: Because it sets you up. It starts you out. You're like,
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: you know what? This is what this movie's going to be.
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: But if they followed through with that, because I feel
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: like they never reference it that deeply again. It's always
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: just background music after that. So I'm like, pick one.
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: You can't kind of have both in the same movie.
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: It's either got to be that level of ridiculous or...
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: or kind of subtle and clever worked in, like the
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: Moulin Rouge stuff. I think all of that worked really
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: well because he wove it throughout and he added it
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: to his own music and he added all these period
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: piece things from that time period and then from our
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: time and it becomes its own weird art thing.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: I disagree. I thought that was terrible in Moulin Rouge.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Absolutely dreadful. The way that the soundtrack goes.
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: I like the way it mixed everything.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: The way that all those people started suddenly doing Smells
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: Like Teen Spirit made me want to throw up on
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: my own face.
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: But again, within the context of that movie, I think
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: it works. Because the whole thing is ridiculous. I remember
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: having a conversation about that. And it was like, I
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: watched it and I was like, I'm pretty sure they
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: didn't have like 1950s Smith Corona typewriters at that time.
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: And I don't think they had those Saturday night special revolvers.
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: And my friend said, yeah, but they didn't have Elton
• 58:20
  Speaker 9: John either. And I said, no, I'm pretty sure they did.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: I looked that one up.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: He was there.
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: It turns out. In those kind of circumstances, I'm okay
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: with it because doesn't the entire thing, like, it opens
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: almost like it's a play? Like, the whole thing is
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: a made-up fictional thing that you're just here. We put
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: this together and you can watch it.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: That wasn't what bothered me about that movie.
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: There's other issues. I'm not saying it's perfect.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: It was a terrible movie. It made me motion sick,
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: and I don't get motion sick watching movies.
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: I feel like I give it a pass for that movie.
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: Because it makes it work on the whole, where other
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: stuff just will randomly do one thing, and that's where
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: you have to have an issue with.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my issue was there were just no people in
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: that movie. There were no, like, people.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't care about anything.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: Shot in the face, I didn't give a fuck.
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: That are so emotionally compelling, there is no possible way
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: that you could, like, wring the emotional resonance out of
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: this story. Like, Romeo and Juliet? How do you fuck
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: up Romeo and Juliet? And somehow, like, there may be
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: an earlier source material than Camille, but for me, the
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: movie is the story of Camille, the Greta Garbo film.
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: And for me, that's a movie that I cannot watch
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: without crying because it is so incredibly beautiful. And to
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: take that narrative... And to make it so hollow that
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: you do not give a shit whether she lives or dies.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: It's amazing that he can do that.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: If only we could harness that power.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: And use it for good.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's got to be a way.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: You know what I like? I like Jesus Christ Superstar.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: The movie, not the play. That's awesome. Jesus Christ Superstar
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: is fucking amazeballs.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: I'm not going to argue. I don't know that I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 9: used that term exactly. I remember loving it, but I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: haven't seen it in forever.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: Watch it again. It holds up.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: It's amazing. But again, that's one of those, it really
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: is a play that you're watching take place in the desert.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: The cast shows up at the beginning. So I'm like,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: you can kind of do whatever you want at that point.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: That's why there's guys in purple tank tops driving around
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: with a tank. In ancient Jesus times. And you don't
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: call it bullshit because you're like, we saw them show
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: up on a bus at the beginning.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Somebody I know was showing that movie to their kids
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: and their kids asked them, how come like all the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: disciples are not wearing shirts? And if they are wearing shirts,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: they're unbuttoned. And she said, and we had to try
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: to explain the 70s too.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 9: And one of them's a porn actor.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I remember loving that when it came out. I thought
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: the music was fantastic.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: It's amazing.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: It was just a blast.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: Every detail of Jesus Christ Superstar is awesome. From cinematography,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: the clothing, the song, everything is good.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 9: I agree with all of those.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I really loved Hair when I was a kid, but
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: not the movie so much. I just thought the Broadway
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: soundtrack was just incredible. I still think it's so far-sighted
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: in terms of its musical style, but... You know, they
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: didn't use a lot of the best pieces in the movie.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: They used, like, some of the major set pieces.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: Which is another move they do when they turn it
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: into a movie. A lot of times, especially in the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: last 15, 20 years... They will add a song in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 9: to a pre-existing Broadway play when they make it a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 9: movie specifically so they can get nominated for another. I've
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 9: seen that happen at least twice.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Well, they did that with Les Mis.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 9: They did that, I think, with Les Mis. They did
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: that with Evita. Every time they took, they would make
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: a new song specifically because they're like, this is a
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: huge musical. They're going to want to nominate one of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 9: our songs. We better make one so that we technically
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 9: can be thrown in there.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think they did that with Hair. I think
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: they got rid of some of the best songs in Hair.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: But it was just really charming because it had that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: feeling like they had found pre-existing music, like a backing track,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and then just quickly made up shit to go with.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: And it's fun.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 9: It's the 60s. They're just making shit up. So all
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: that It came from Selma?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really didn't like that song, and I thought
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: the rap part was very, very stale. It sounds like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: almost every... It sounds like the... It sounds like the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: black eyed peas, where is the love? Like you can
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: rap that over it. I know, I did it.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: I thought it sounded like NPR saying, and now we're
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: going to teach your children what rap is. Because it's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: not rap, it's hip hop. But it's like intellectual hip
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: hop that white people like.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to amplify that and say it sounds like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: the music and literary critics on fresh air.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Telling people what rap is.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Explaining to you where the depth is because you might
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: miss it unless they explain it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: So subtle.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: And in that voice that's not like a natural voice,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: it's like they're trying to parody themselves. If I was
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: going to be an NPR critic on SNL, I would
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: make my own voice sound like this.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 9: I think that's where the problem is. Because to me,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 9: I think the John Legend part, he has a great voice.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: In that part, I feel like it's fitting of what
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: they're trying to do. I feel like that part is very... Again,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: it's probably a little more traditional than maybe it even
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: needs to be on that end of it. But then
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: they're trying to do that, as we said, maybe trying
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 9: to bridge the generations here and then make it modern,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 9: if you will. I think that's the problem. I think
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 9: that rap is so bad. badly done like not just
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: badly written it's very hamily written but i think on
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: top of that it's so non-committal like there's no again
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: especially something like this like such a huge issue that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: like it feels like somebody needs to be kind of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: passionate about this right and he has nothing to do
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 9: he just sort of lays the lines out there for
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: you very ham fisted and i'm just like shouldn't you
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 9: be kind of angry? Like if we're going to balance
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: this and have John Legend be the very like old school, like,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 9: you know, melodic version of it, then we need to
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 9: balance it out with somebody to, in my mind, I'm like,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: that would have made this kind of work is if
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: that was the angry half of it that was like, no,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 9: this is how we'd like to remember things. This is
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 9: how things really are as we're living with this shit today.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Just some sort of tone yeah whether it was angry
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: or it's just toneless well.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: It was funny you know like that was my go-to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: is like oddly enough white it was like listening I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: was like if you put in something like what Eminem
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 9: does and I know some people hate him I again
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: regardless of whether you like what he does or not
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: his style gets very angry and gets very like I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 9: don't know it has a specific delivery to it that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: I think is almost the kind of thing you need
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 9: here where it's like this is mounting you know and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: it's like that's kind of the state of the world
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 9: that's kind of the state of the situation we're dealing
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: with like you need something else to counter the old
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: school music and we need something that's way more passionate
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: and probably angry to represent what this needs to.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: Say again that's sort of where the difference between a
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: song and a soundtrack song comes into play because at
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: that point in the movie you know it's sort of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: the end montage of everything getting better so it wouldn't
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's not the note they were trying to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: end the film on?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not what he says.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: But, I mean, to me, that's not where we are.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: No, of course not.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: I guess if you're trying to tell the story of
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: just that story, but if that's the case, maybe you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: don't need to bridge it. Maybe you need to leave it.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: If you're doing nothing but a period piece, and you're
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: not trying to be a reflection of what society was then,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: has become, is moving towards, it depends what you're trying
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 9: to do, I guess. Because to me, if it's supposed
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 9: to be nothing but a tale of Selma... then we
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: probably just need to stick with that. If we're trying
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 9: to make it about race relations in general or trying
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: to fight against prejudice, I think that's the only way
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: to do it is to then have somebody there who's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 9: sort of representing the way things really are.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of the other music, it was depressingly professional.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: It didn't have that spark of life that just amateur
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: enthusiasm about what you're doing. And I mean, I'm not,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of people professionally keep that, but I think
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: when you're making it for a project, there's a kind
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: of self-editing that you sort of like start trimming the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: life out of what you're doing and it becomes a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: little bit more of an exercise and you do what
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: you know how to do.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 9: And maybe, I mean, that's something that Hollywood, in quotes there,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 9: does with everything. Like they will take, a great screenplay,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 9: and then they'll edit it and adjust it and make
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: what they feel is supposed to be important but really
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: is just going to make them money, and then by
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 9: the end you're left with this homogenized crap. So it
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: may be part of that, how many producers came in
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 9: and put their two cents on even just the song
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: that changed what it might have originally been.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty easy just to do that to yourself.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I used to paint portraits, and after a while I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: just couldn't. It's like, I'm not even doing something I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: feel like doing anymore. And nobody's making me do that.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: But you just internalize what you think people's expectations are.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: And then you wind up turning something that's interesting and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: fun into just the shittiest job you've ever had. And
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you just don't even want to do it anymore. You
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: don't want to think about it. I don't know. I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: think it must be a hard job to write songs.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of times, a lot of my favorite ones
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: are just things people used.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: And also just people making films. Like I can remember
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: a number of times people just finding a piece of music,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: playing it with the film and going, Oh my God.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: And it was like the biggest moment of discovery in
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: the whole process of making the film.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 9: I think that's its own different art form. And maybe
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 9: that's what they need to add to this is like,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 9: I think when you get with someone who's like, somebody
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: like Tarantino or Wes Anderson that like is almost curating
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: your music selections for this specific piece that they're putting
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: together to me that's an art form too it's maybe
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 9: not as original obviously but like I think there's an
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: art to that that a lot of people don't have
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 9: I've seen a lot of like look every bad indie
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 9: movie that came out after pulp fiction was trying to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: do that exact same thing and did it badly so
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 9: it's like there really is a skill to being able
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 9: to take pre-existing stuff and sort of harness it and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 9: shove it into an amazing soundtrack.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: Best mixtape producer.
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  Speaker 9: It is.
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  Speaker 5: I would like to nominate A Life Less Ordinary for that.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: See, A Life Less Ordinary. Guardians of the Galaxy did
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 9: a great job this past year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, also like... Reservoir Dogs, that's like that Steeler's Wheel song,
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  Speaker 2: was always like this bland song that was about nothing
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: to me. And all of a sudden it's like, now
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I get it. It's about torturing a cop and.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Cutting off his ear. I felt exactly the same way.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: And now I feel like I get this song.
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  Speaker 7: Which Tarantino did not choose.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't?
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  Speaker 12: No.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I remember having the tape when I was
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: in high school and it said on the interior of
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  Speaker 7: the tape, and thanks to so-and-so, If it hadn't been
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: for you, we wouldn't be stuck in the middle. We'd
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: just be stuck. Like, I guess some lady picked it out.
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  Speaker 9: I assumed it was just Michael Madsen started singing. He
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: was like, damn it, now I've got to use that.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: I hope we can get the licensing for this thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and, you know, another one of my all-time favorites
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: is Everybody's Talking. And what's his name actually wrote? Yeah,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Harry Nilsson wrote a song for that movie. And they
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: already had that song, and they were using it as
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: sort of a placeholder. And I think Dylan.
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  Speaker 7: Wait, what movie is that?
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  Speaker 9: Midnight Cowboy.
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  Speaker 2: Midnight Cowboy. And Dylan wrote Lay Lady Lay for it,
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  Speaker 2: which is weird because I always wondered, why does he
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: sing that song in a different voice than all his
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: other songs? I always thought, why is he suddenly a
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: crooner here with a different voice? And after I read
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: about that song, it was like, oh, it's because he
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: was trying to suit it to the character thing.
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  Speaker 9: I think we've stumbled on a whole other episode there
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 9: of songs that were created for a movie and maybe
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 9: didn't get used in that movie. Because I've heard a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 9: few stories like that over the years.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Well, Dylan had another one like Knocking on Heaven's Door.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: It was just not finished. And it was the best
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: song for Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, I thought.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: But it's not in the movie. So I always just
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: turn it on when the movie's on. I just... Go
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: ahead and crank it up. I'm not.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: I don't care if it wasn't finished. You know, it's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: like that thing where you play, like, Dark Side of
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: the Moon with.
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  Speaker 9: Wizard of Oz.
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  Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 9: Blows your mind, man.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I just did a quick Google search for snubs of 2014.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of them. What?
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  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 17: Are there?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, people are talking about it. It's one of
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 9: the most... Like, this year feels like the most I've
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 9: heard that in a while.
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  Speaker 7: But, I mean, in song.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 9: Well, just in, no, not in song. I mean, in general.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 10: Well, I was looking at it in song.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 9: There's a lot of actors that got totally overloaded.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: Well, I guess there's a Lana Del Rey song for
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: Big Eyes that people had feelings about. But then I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: guess what you were just mentioning was taking classic musicals.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: I guess they did an original song for Annie.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 9: Didn't work out for Annie, did it?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: They couldn't do anything with that one. They just couldn't
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: do anything, bless them.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: Wow the kid's an orphan but they won't even nominate
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 9: her for an oscar anything else on this as we
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 9: round it out here with everyone's song that they have
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 9: problems with so i again this is just playing it
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 9: so everyone else can hear them so you listen and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: make up your mind what you think of glory you
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: can even email and write us let us know what
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: you think.
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  Speaker 5: Now that was a good movie glory that was an
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: all right movie.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: If only it had had a hip-hop song at the end.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: If only there was a song about, you say, sit down,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: I'll stand up. You say, cut my hair, I'll grow
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: my hair out. You say, shave off that beard, I'll
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: trim my sideburns. You say, walk, I'm going to run
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: and jump parkour off this damn coffee shop. Because that
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: was how that went, right? That was loosely the lyrics?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 9: Forgot the part where a cannon blows some dude's head off.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 9: That's also a key moment in glory.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: Fucking Columbine happened and shit. Issues, man, deal with it.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Words.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: Hashtag fuck those people. That's how my song goes.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 9: I think you've just written a pretty impressive soundtrack right there.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 9: We need to record that. Oh wait, we just did.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: It'll be on A Life Less Ordinary 2.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 9: You've seen the movie, right? Because the soundtrack is a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: different animal.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: The soundtrack is much better than the actual movie.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the movie has issues.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: Holly Hunter is really sexy in that movie.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: She's always pretty sexy.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: She's understated.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Gotta give her credit for the holly hunter special i
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: remember like when people first started talking about the piano
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: and they said the holly hunter is going to play
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: like an australian woman i'm like oh fuck and they
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: said well she doesn't speak i'm like oh okay all
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: right all right got a movie then i i want
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: to reinstate like my disclaimer because you know like i've
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: had Music in movies, it's unpredictable. I haven't seen the movies.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm talking about.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 9: But again, that's kind of the way a lot of
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 9: this country and the world over approaches the Oscars. They
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 9: will sit down and watch 14 hours of Oscar ceremony,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 9: and they'll be like, I haven't seen four of these movies.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: I haven't seen most of these performances by these actors. Like,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 9: It is how most people approach the Oscars. Not hardcore
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 9: movie geeks, but a lot of the population has no
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 9: idea what any of the movies are. Don't know what
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 9: the nominations are. That's why I wanted to throw those
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 9: out there. I was like, at least in one category,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 9: two now, you're caught up. So it's like you've experienced
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 9: all these songs. You can argue well-educated.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: I guess I've reached the age where I still don't
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: like jazz that much, but I don't really get angry
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: about the Oscars like I used to. I used to
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: watch the Oscars religiously because it's restored my lack of
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: faith in humanity. I'd be going through the year. People
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: would do a nice thing every now and then. I'd
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: get hopeful and expectant. Then I watched the Oscars and
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: it's like, no, fuck that. everything sucks man this is
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: what it's all about that's the truth.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: Money and glitz and paparazzi.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: But you know a lot of times like a piece
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: of music you set it against a story and it
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: just changes everything like like that uh opening music for
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: hill street blues yes you know you hear that and
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: you think This is going to be a show about
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: a couple of dental hygienists who are best friends.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: Stuck in an elevator, yeah.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: It's the music video effect. I mean, if you think
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: about how much videos really changed how we listen to music,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: like take Sleeping Bag by ZZ Top, for example.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 9: Do I have to take it?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: That song is nothing much, but when you put it
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: to the video where they're being chased by bad guys,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: a monster truck runs over the car, they bury it
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: next to a pyramid, and it's reborn as a spaceship,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: that is fucking amazing and is not at all what
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: the song's about.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: I'm sticking with TV Dinner because it has stop motion
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 9: animation and a cool creature.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: Well, You know, TV dinner's not bad.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 9: To each their own ZZ Top song.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: Sleeping Bag is the best music video ever made, though.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to put that out there.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 9: That's a bold statement.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: I stand, I will fight to the death. That's the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: hill I will die on.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Battle Royale.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: All the hills in my life.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 9: That having been said, I think we're going to round
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 9: it out with glory. Thank you for putting up with
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 9: this insanity and look forward to the Oscars and If
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: we think we can survive, maybe we'll do this again
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 9: next year. Otherwise, we'll remind you, get a life, we'll
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 9: provide the soundtrack. One day, when the glory comes.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 10: It will be ours, it will be.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 17: Ours Oh, one day, when the war is won We
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 17: will be sure.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 10: We will be sure. Oh, glory. Glory. Glory. Oh, glory. Glory.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: Hands to the heavens.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: No man, no weapon.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 15: Yes, glory is destined. Everyday women and men become legends.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 15: Sins that go against our skin become blessings. The movement
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 15: is a rhythm to us. Freedom is like religion to us.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 15: Justice is juxtaposition in us. Justice for all just ain't
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 15: specific enough. One son died, his spirit is revisiting us.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: True and living, living in us. Resistance is us.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 15: That's why Rosa sat on the bus. That's why we
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 15: walked through Ferguson with our hands up. When it go down,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 15: we woman and man up. They say stay down and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 15: we stand up. Shots, we on the ground. The camera
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 15: panned up. King pointed to the mountaintop and we ran up.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 17: One day, when the glory comes, it will.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: Be ours, it will be ours.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 17: Oh, one day, when the war is won, we will
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 17: be sure, we will be.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 11: Sure of your glory.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: Now the war is not over Victory isn't won But
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 8: we'll fight on to the finish And then when it's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: all done We'll cry glory.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: Oh glory Oh We'll cry glory Oh, glory. Oh.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 15: Selma is now for every man, woman, and child. Even
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 15: Jesus got his crown in front.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 10: Of a crowd.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: They march with the torch.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 15: We gonna run with it now.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: Never look back.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 15: We done gone hundreds of miles from dark roads, heroes,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 15: to become a hero. Facing the league of justice, his
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 15: power was the people.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 9: Enemy is lethal.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 15: A king became regal. Saw the face of Jim Crow
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 15: under a bald eagle. The biggest weapon. It's to stay peaceful,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 15: we sing. Our music is the cuts that we bleed through.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 15: Somewhere in the dream we had an epiphany. Now we
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 15: right the wrongs in history. No one can win a
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 15: war individually. It take the wisdom of the elders and
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 15: young people's energy.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 9: Welcome to the story we call victory.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 10: The coming of the Lord, my eyes have seen the glory.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 11: One day when.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 17: The glory comes, it will be ours.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 10: Oh, one day when the.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: Waters run, we will be sure, we.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 10: Will be sure. Oh, glory, glory, glory. Oh, glory, glory, glory. Oh, glory, glory, glory.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 10: When the war is won When it's all said and.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 11: Done We'll cry glory Glory Glory Glory Glory Hallelujah.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Are we going to take a break and come back
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: and do next year or something?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 9: We're just going to predict what next year's will be.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, they've already started pushing these movies.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: We know what's coming.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: It'll be Glory 2. Next year's a year for sequels.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: Glory 2, A Lifeless Ordinary 2, Superstar 2.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: I heard that he would come back eventually, but I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: didn't know there was.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: Well, he got a little rock out of the way.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 14: Oh, I see.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: You really got to help him pry that thing out
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: of there.
• 1:22:04
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• 1:22:07
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• 1:22:09
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• 1:22:11
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  Speaker 6: Aloha!
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  Speaker 10: Talk hard!