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Tabitha Rickard discusses 'WOKE ideology in Victoria.' · The Slippery Slope

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Boy and a felon. Thanks for listening to the
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slippery slope. Today, I have a guest guess with
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me all the way from Victoria in the southern part of Australia,
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if you don't know Australia that well and name is Tabitha regard
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Tabitha actually ran for state election last year in November
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in Victoria. She had I would say she was
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fairly successful out of the candidates and come through.
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Very impressive, very impressive resume in my opinion.
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And I really wanted to have to have atha, come on here today
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and talk about some of the issues, which seemed to be
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transpiring in our in Australia, here especially when it comes
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to, when it comes to ladies women's.
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To me, it seems like women's voices have been shut down here
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on YouTube. There's some stuff I don't put
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on YouTube anymore because I can see it.
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I get notices is going to shut. It down, be shut down, this will
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be on YouTube, no matter what. And I'll put it on the other,
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the other platforms as well where it doesn't get.
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Shut down. Tabitha.
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Hello I looked it up. Sorry I stuffed it up.
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Hey thanks very much for joining me on the slippery slope as we
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discussing before. Very welcome, you're discussing
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for how we want to help some of the things that we want to go
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through and just, what, what's happening.
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You just gives a bit of an intro, a bit yourself and tell
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us what you've been up to. And I've totally brought a you
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were involved in the state election last year.
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Victoria. I'm you just a little background
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on yourself. Yeah, I've always been a
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community leader even when I didn't realize it, even as a kid
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that looking back, I was always in school student school council
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and I was vice president of year 12 as a school Captain.
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I've always been involved in like youth boards and committees
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and things like that. Youth Council.
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I moved out of home and I was 16 I was a strong advocate in
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regards to bullying, I used to go around to forums and share my
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own lived experiences of being in in domestic violence
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situations and being second-rate, homeless and
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bullying, which led me, which is why I moved out of home and I
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was 16 and as a mother, I I also volunteered and was a strong
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Advocate still touring around talking about that sort of
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stuff. Yeah.
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So as a young adult, I decided after I went to UNI, as an
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actress after I do my BA in acting, I thought I'd go through
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and I felt led by the Lord to go on and do a certificate in
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community services, protective care and Community Services,
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youth work and I did a bunch of missions working with Aboriginal
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young people up in Bathurst island off.
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A Darwin, which was really great.
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And then I landed a job in government, which is where I
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worked for 14 years as a youth engagement and events officer
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and as somebody who is really passionate about quality and
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things like that I volunteered and in a program to become an
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equal opportunity officer within local government for all
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protected attributes and yeah I got LED on a journey in 2002
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2020. Strangely enough, I think we're
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are selected for leadership program and and that just God
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put me on a journey in regards to community leadership that I
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did not expect. I would I would ever walk, it
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was I learned a lot about leadership in but in ways that I
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didn't expect and it threw me more into the political realm
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and which sort of yeah, open some Doors.
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I was on ABC QA talking about diversity and inclusion within
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the sports industry where I posed a question after everybody
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talked about how diversity was so important.
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I posed a question around y. Then the unvaccinated are still
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being excluded from professional sports, and it went viral, and
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yeah, and then the door opened to run in the election.
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So, Being the kind of person I am.
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Yeah, yes. Said yes, who were you running
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for what was a Democrat, Labour party.
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Okay, so what, why why then why did you choose that?
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Sorry, their policies were very much in line of mine as a
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conservative Conservative, Christian woman and ironically,
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I don't know what any Christian woman is allowed in any other
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party at the most. It was it's growing harder for
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anyone, if they identify as a Christian to be allowed in any
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other party strangely enough, If you cannot identify as anything
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anything other than other than, being a Christian.
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Yep. Yeah, it's kind of like I got
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it's my dirty little secret if I want to stay in this party.
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So a bit yet it was it was just timing.
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I believe it was a lot of the Lord's leading and I willingness
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and it was an answer to prayer because sort of I was praying
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Lord, use me. I didn't know, I didn't know
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what to do. Regards to being in Victoria
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over the last 34 years is just increasingly gotten harder and
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harder if the my secret society and I knew New, even through
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the, the leadership program at I really identified.
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Courage is one of my strengths, my top drinks, and I know I had
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the courage to stand up for what I believe in, and I just, I was
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just praying. Lord, use me here.
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I am. I'm available.
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And then doors just started. Started out me being and I just
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This led I've got a place in, but background and I talked a
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lot about what I believe the difference between leadership
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and management, and my observations in the police that
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I'm from Queensland. Police was that, I think that
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they lack a lot of leadership and they've trained up, managers
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people who manage situations can guide through situations when
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they actually need leadership. We constantly see Valleys,
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because they don't actually have a lot of leaders.
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You've been talking a lot about leadership.
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What, what's your idea is on leadership?
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Because I've listened, I listen to you think, okay?
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You sound a bit more like At leader.
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Okay, not someone who just learned to management system.
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What's your thoughts on it? Look, it was really interesting
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and the program that I was in really opened my eyes up to some
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people who take on leadership positions or board memberships
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and things like that, like, Girl Guide Badges, and it's, and it's
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all about, it's actually quite selfish and about up themselves
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within the corporate world looking on the outside, as
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though they're doing stuff and that.
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It's incredibly tokenistic and prideful and it just and and and
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and that was a time of repentance for me because I was
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like, oh, I was almost in that like institutionalized within
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local government for so long and I was almost like heading down
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that path honestly and it opened the Lord just opened my eyes to
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that and I was and humbled me so been one of the biggest things
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that I learned in that time. His daring leadership isn't
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scared to talk about hard things and the me as a leader I decided
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to I went on a deep dive into Jesus.
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I thought he was one of the best leaders in the world.
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He wasn't scared to walk with the marginalized people the
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oppressed had a heart for people and humbleness about him.
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And so then I sort of went down that path.
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Yeah, of course, I think a great leader is okay.
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So when you took me L what you think a great leader is you're
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touching on the inclusion work that you were doing and
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inclusion your modeling Jesus who?
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You know, in my opinion, the best leader that you could the
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best person that you could model something on obviously.
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But when you're striking that, that issue with your work, as
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the inclusion officer and you were talking to touched a bit on
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that. How did that?
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How is that? How would that change now?
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And you know, as the leader have been wanting to stand up?
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How did you see that change? And how how are you trying to
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effect on trying to change that yourself?
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And how can you see our society is pushing away from what you
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initially had, as the inclusion officer and we're, we're leading
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where they're leading us now? Yeah, well a lot of changed and
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I think it's got to do with also.
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Even the changes that happened very recently in Victoria and
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regards to our child safe standards.
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And so there's this push for inclusion.
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Of a couple of attributes at the expense of everybody else has.
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And so you're saying like within the include what used to be
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equal opportunity offices. Now is inclusion offices that
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just for lgbtiq just the LGBT. So when you were, when you were
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there for the inclusion role, what was your who are you trying
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to include? Oh protected attributes,
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disability, women breastfeeding moms Aboriginal and Torres
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Strait called community and linguistically.
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Diverse communities religion, lgbtq still.
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But all of them, all of them which are which are all still it
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all still protected attributes. Yep.
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But it's almost like the umbrella of one is over
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shattering. Everybody else is and and
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they're just demanding attention so much that that people who are
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literally being forgotten about. And and and it is a messy
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subject because as one group wants to be included, what
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they're demanding, that is means the exclusion and discrimination
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of another protected attribute. So, people are just trying to
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avoid having these messy messy conversations and sort of
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protect like, shove it under the rug and Not talk about it.
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Yeah. Has to talked about we've got
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some really serious issues especially in high schools
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helping some constituents in high school here in Ballarat.
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And it's just Mind-boggling what's happening?
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What's that me? I've no.
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So we've got a constituent here in Ballarat, 14 year old son,
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and having to get changed in the change, rooms twice a week.
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With a biological female, who's exposing yourself in front of
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all the boys twice a week. Yeah.
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So so in summary an attempt to be Elusive with this one
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individual, this school actually didn't engage in any
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conversation. Nothing with the majority in
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this situation like they didn't even do a risk management plan.
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They didn't even follow Child Safe, standards in regards to.
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So in child, safety and erds. Children should be included in
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discussions around decisions. That impact them, that did not
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happen. And so when the Mother rang to
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the school to have this conversation.
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She just kept being thrown the lgbtiq policy.
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And I don't look at my tonight. They need to be giving you
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child-safe, standards all these other policies and then when I
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started looking at their policies is one protected
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attribute that's missing in all their policies.
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Can you guess what? It is?
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What religion, they've listed? They've released it, they've
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listed every protected attribute in their policies, except
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religion. Okay, so these young people, if
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they're even to look at all the other policies, not the lgbtiq
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one, but all the other policies in their school.
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They would be led to think that they don't hold a protected
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attribute and therefore, don't have protections like they do.
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When in fact, they actually have the same protections that smile.
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Okay. I can't believe, it's really
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misleading. Yeah, I think that I can't
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believe that. That young girl, is allowed to
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go and use the change rooms like that.
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Yep, she identifies. Okay.
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And they, I asked them if they had engaged Caza, which is
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Center against sexual assault, to have a trauma-informed.
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At aspect to to doing this and they said that they they got the
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inclusions officer from the local YMCA, which their job is
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only to Advocate the lgbtiq. So that was the expert they got
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in to help them navigate this whole situation any meant it,
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what would happen? If one of the boys let's, let's
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just say you have one of these boys are Highly aggressive.
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Very it's a this section many risks.
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So many, really young young girl who's suffering from gender
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dysphoria. I assume is putting herself or
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they're allowing her to put herself in a, what I would have
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thought II mean at 14, you giving some some weird hormones
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Rocco. And don't forget these kids,
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mmm, but this was happening. So, this was towards the end of
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last year. Don't forget, these are so
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these, are you 9? Ines.
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Yeah, it wasn't their first he two years of high school in
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isolation. Yeah, because the code as well.
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So the social skills The risks of just normal.
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Well, okay, and I didn't do a risk management plan.
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They did a transitional plan for that.
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One individual, So they didn't even so.
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So it's almost like here in Victoria too scared to even talk
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about the risks. Yep.
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Because needing that might be seen if you raise a concern that
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all, if we do this, this might happen or that might happen
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which you would normally do in managing the risks.
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Yep. That that if you even raise that
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concern, you're being transphobic because just flips,
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just, it's like you're constantly walking under
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eggshells and they don't want to talk about it.
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You've blown my mind right now. Sorry.
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Just that's so and that's and and all the training and stuff
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that's come through in regards to Child Safe standards.
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He has been because of the new changes being pushed around
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Aboriginal Torres Strait and lgbtiq.
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So that's at the Forefront of people's minds and they suggest
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about all the other child safe standards and in response to
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include the minorities they're putting.
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Shoot the majority at huge risks.
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Yep. In breach of childhood status.
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Are you crazy? Okay.
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Um so you also touched on on religion there and talking about
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how religion is not included. If we can go down this path with
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religion, you're in Victoria. Now I've had I've done a couple
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of episodes mainly just on the audio stuff on Spotify and that
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but talking my opinion is that religion.
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Sorry. Not Religion.
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My opinion. Is that the Bible will soon.
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Be labeled as hate speech and really is what you mean.
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Like properly legally, it'll be able there, you know, put out
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there and I think that being a bible-believing have to say
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specifically because there's a lot of Flakes, a
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bible-believing, okay? You believe in the Bible from
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Genesis to Revelation bye. Believing Christian, I think
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will soon become it'll be it'll be outlawed Italy it.
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I think it'll probably seem go down that path of what's
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happened in China, where you can be a Christian As Long as You
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Follow what the Chinese Communist party's Bible version
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is and you can be that kind of Christian, okay?
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You don't want to make waves, you don't want to point out that
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hey the Bible says this and that I think that's the kind of
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Christian and that if you're another kind of Christian who
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believes now, the reason why I believe this is because of the
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stories that we've seen obviously in In, when the
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pandemic, the, the plan demick started with the Charlie Victor.
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We saw, you know, like in Victoria Pastor getting arrested
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because he kept his church open. Okay, I tried to control to
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contact him actually, and he was eat to me.
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Sounded, he was scared, he couldn't talk to anyone, but I
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don't blame him. But obviously that government
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down there at luring prayer in America, like, can't pray in a
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certain can't pray. Getting arrested in England for
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praying it silently, everyone remember which states don't have
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it now but I know Victoria Shaw Queensland, you know, if you are
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talking to, if you're a pastor or someone in church and someone
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of the rainbow Community comes up and wants to talk to you
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about there and thinks, you know, they're having issues and
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they want to get some guidance. Well, okay, you can now get
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charged, you can get charged, you can possibly go to jail.
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I've had Christian say, well, you know, that's not, that's
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just Obviously, it's people don't believe in the Bible or
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read their Bible but all I'm saying is I think my will end up
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being hate speech. Christians will end up being
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it'll end up being a legal and all these other things.
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Everything to me all these stories that are coming along
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from going from the pastor and Victoria getting arrested two
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even stories where Christianity is painted as some kind of weird
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religion. Like, you know, the people who
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were responsible for the The slaying of those officers in the
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people here in Queensland. Now the Queensland police come
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out with the story saying oh you know they were that will kind of
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these fundamentalist Christians. I'm sitting on this Loop but
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what are you talking about? They shape this Christian belief
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saying oh you know that we've seen some videos we've seen this
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they'll Christians Christians getting painted as being weird
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extremists every second day we see bad stories coming out about
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Houston for that reason, is, I'm not the biggest fan, but where
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do you think it's going? Where do you think it's going
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for religion, obviously you've coming across other issues with
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religion being shut down. What do you think?
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Yeah, even even the narratives around the school shooting
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that's recently happened to me guards to the Christian school
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in America like. Yeah, it's yeah, there's it.
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There's this Narrative of trying to To paint.
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Yeah. Us as the bad guys, the
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spiritual wolf or thing Proverbs 11, which one?
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Yeah, Proverbs 11:2. I've got here.
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When pride comes then comes shame but with the humble is
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wisdom and Shame. We're in shame at moment, like,
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it's if you watch even the protests and things like that,
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towards any conservatives trying to have conversations and stuff,
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it's just throwing Shame, Shame, Shame, Shame, Shame, Shame,
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Shame, and like that. I see them as, like, arrows at
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the enemy. And there's this real push to
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shame our morals and our values and things like that.
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And I've just right, Shane will Da morals, literally take it by
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force and Decay self-worth, and less compassion gets in.
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And so, all the stuff, like, if all the stuff that they're st.
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On media, our leaders, our government leaders, just
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shaming, you know, if you're not see your is this to that.
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That is a coercive abuse tactic. And it's, I have no doubt that
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it's, it's not just accidental that that that it is a strategic
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strategy into silencing people. And, and the worst thing you can
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do is allow any of those arrows to just take root and fester
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because it will metastasize and you will maybe even start to
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believe those shameful comments that they're throwing at us, but
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The trajectory is, is that we are the minority now.
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Apparently, like we know we've had votes against marriage
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equality and stuff like that. Like we are the minority
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according to, according to the political realm and and the
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mainstream. And they getting in at the kids
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really early is that that although shameful comments are
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just throwing throwing at us that we are transpo big home.
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Beak beak. It's you know, and that's just
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what bullies do when they don't when they can't argue or have
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acceptance of diversity. Then it's the easy thing is to
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shine somebody, and like I said, it's coercive tool to use and
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they did it. We've had Daniel Andrews doing
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that at 11 a.m. every single day for like a year.
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I'm towards you, the unjammed people.
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Like there and and it worked. And I think everyone's cottoned
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onto how great it works and I using that strategically for
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even this new agenda to cancel women and mutilate and sterilize
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the Next Generation. And it's yeah, yeah.
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It's we know, we know in the Bible that it's going to get
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worse before it gets better. So, in you getting worse, it's
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getting worse. So Victoria how it's hard to see
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sometimes old or take. I feel move on.
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I'll call me while I'm getting a little.
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Take too long. I'd love to have you on in.
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For another time, we have to chat a bit more specifically
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about Victoria. I think.
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Oh yeah. Probably got just be done at 10
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minutes left. I just want to talk.
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Are you going, man? Hey, being a conservative Mom,
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I'm working from home. Hello, I've got my son here.
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Yes, Gracie is freaking him out. Okay.
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Thanks how so she playing tricks on you?
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Okay. Okay, just be quiet, buddy.
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Oh yeah, I'd love to have you on another time because I think
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we've got a lot more to talk about, but if can we touch on
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what's happened? A couple of weeks ago, I see
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Parker. It's not real line but she gets
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Posey. Parker was he came here from the
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UK? You know, I read through her
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biography and it she just sounds like a No one that it's a couple
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easy, I would have been something very outstanding,
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she's the lady who stands up and talks for what, you know what?
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I would have thought were obvious with obvious, right?
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Obviously, then we have more at deeming and then she attends
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this. This Woman's March, what do you
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want to call it? And then it's all over taken.
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By Will trans activist go there. The police are able to stop the
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trans activists for some reason, but then we have supposed
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neo-nazis. The police couldn't stop the
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neo-nazis from walking past and doing the, I'll hit lists
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salute, which blows my mind. And then obviously, it's all
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Myra demons fold and Posey Parker because they are
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neo-nazis, obviously, Can you can you explain to me?
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I wasn't there. You were there in Victoria.
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Can you explain anything about what's going on there?
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Honestly, wouldn't surprise me if that were planted there at
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and to create a distraction from actually what the women are
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actually, it's just taken away completely from the whole
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situation of what they were actually standing up for, which
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ironically, just like, what's the word?
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Oh, Caleb sound off buddy, which ironically justifies what they
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were talking saying, is happening in the sun.
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It's Like, let women speak, and the whole like counter counter
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stuff. That happened is all about
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silencing women. It's just, it's incredible and I
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think the media and the Liberal Party have really just jumped at
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that opportunity to make a virtue signal that, that there
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that they are basically more for the lgbtiq and, and rather than
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women's rights. And in the name of like
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anti-nazis, I do Daniel Andrews, has I think a lot to blame too
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because he is the leader of our state, and toxic leadership for
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long periods of time in any organization and I've learned in
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any state just trickles down. So, of course, like Nazis is
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just a word that has been thrown around way way, way too much in
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Victoria that it's just like a You know, if I don't agree with
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you, you're a Nazi. And so like so it's like this
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this tokenistic thing that people just canceled you for
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even though you aren't an artsy like the fact the truth of the
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matter is you're not an artsy not even associated with them
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and it's I do it's because it's such a big taurine and I think
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too because Daniel and restarted it with his daily.
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Like if you're not Jarred, you're an artsy.
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Every single day at 11 a.m. if you're not, if you haven't got
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the jab, you're not see ya apparently.
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And and even like when the Liberals were like like
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connected with other parties and stuff during the election like
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with and that like he, Dana Andrews come up and go.
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Oh, that's you know, the Liberals laws because they
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can't, you know, they did deals with the Nazis.
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Like they're Nazis. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. I'll change the definition of
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not seen the dictionary soon. I'm sure.
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Just like they are women and yeah, married.
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What is a woman really? I mean, it's yeah.
28:31
Anyway, so yeah. And this basically what's
28:37
happened to more are in her party is sexism, it's sexist is
28:41
being sexist. Yeah, it is.
28:45
Taking loop back to being to leadership.
28:49
Daniel Andrews. I don't like the man.
28:50
I think he's there's something very wrong with him.
28:54
Whoever he's a good leader, he is are not a good, but he can
28:59
lead. And I ever know I've noticed
29:02
that every opposition leader that you've had down.
29:04
There is very weak. Very weak is because when they
29:08
don't stand for something, they stand for nothing.
29:11
Yep. So that's the problem with the
29:12
liberal party is a stand for nothing at the moment.
29:15
Don't know whether to go woke or whether they stand for that
29:19
actual conservative values. And so, yeah, we need strong
29:24
leadership who are going to actually stand and withstand the
29:28
shame and abuse. Yeah.
29:30
From the last and stand strong in in in Integrity.
29:35
Yeah. So Proverbs 11 3 the Integrity
29:38
of the upright will guide them and just let the perversity of
29:42
the Unfaithful because it will destroy them that That they'll
29:46
do their own destroying their own like that aren't and we're
29:49
seeing some of that now in a lot of aspects, there are not doing.
29:55
Yep. Yeah.
29:56
There are none doing and it's like, it plays so much into
29:59
Daniel Andrews hands because he stands up and I don't agree with
30:04
anything that comes out of his mouth, but he stands up and he's
30:07
just had menu goes for. This is what he's staying for.
30:09
This is what he's doing and he doesn't back down and then you
30:12
have these other people in the background.
30:13
There's like it's almost like they just they're there on
30:17
purpose, just kind of giving it over to him because they like I
30:20
said, they don't stand for anything, nothing at all and
30:24
then something like more redeeming to me, that was the
30:27
perfect opportunity to stand up and say, hey, this is, but, no,
30:31
no, don't stand behind it, don't back her.
30:34
Don't point out that there were so many other things wrong that
30:37
Victorian police did so many things wrong that the Nazis
30:40
don't have any place these neo-nazis if they were actually
30:43
Neo-Nazi, they have my doubts. It's but none.
30:47
I just throw her under the bus at the let women speak rally.
30:51
Don't let women speak and I don't know if they'd just don't
30:54
understand the irony and not let letting women speak.
30:58
Yeah. Let women be suspended for nine
31:00
months. He's literally shot her down and
31:03
silenced her. Yeah.
31:05
Like, which is exactly what what the whole thing was talking
31:10
about. Like.
31:12
Yeah. And we're living in a In a time
31:15
where coercive control is literally, like who works who
31:19
control uses threats intended to incite beer, it uses insults and
31:24
humiliation to break down people's self-esteem again to
31:28
learn. You don't speak up because you,
31:31
you know, you're embarrassed to hold even these morals or
31:34
values. Yeah, it's uses physical
31:36
violence assault. And I think that everyone's so
31:40
emboldened right now that we're going to just see an escalation
31:44
of physical violence. Lens because they're emboldened,
31:47
they're doing it and getting away with it.
31:49
Yeah, use of isolation. So isolating people, the more
31:54
and that's the worst thing about silencing people is because the
31:57
more silence. You are the more isolated you.
31:59
I know you don't realize that actually you're not alone.
32:02
Yeah, that's what the protest over covid and staff in was so
32:07
wonderful with, especially with the non mainstream media because
32:10
I felt so alone. Yeah, when I saw that the
32:13
protest with the construction workers in that, You're like,
32:15
wow, like I'm not alone. Yeah.
32:20
And and then yeah and then you got Financial control like
32:25
seeing seeing they've tested it out in covid to control people.
32:29
Like going, you know we're going to shut down your bank accounts
32:32
if you know protest or whatever getting away with it.
32:35
I think like these are all coercive control methods and in
32:40
Victoria. Daniel Andrews has the
32:42
behavioral insights team. Yeah.
32:45
So what's the behavioral? The behavioral, T, behavioral
32:51
insights team. Hang on a second, I'll just pull
32:53
up their websites that give a great great behaving ins.
33:03
They have a great. Let's go.
33:08
Oops. Victoria.
33:16
The behavioral insights unit. So this was brought to my
33:19
attention when my daughter's contact tracing information was
33:24
collected from her school principal.
33:27
So personal information was given from the school principal
33:31
to contact tracers when she was a close contact in a classroom.
33:35
Hmm. And look like during the whole
33:39
thing and by DHS and then one day A, I had the behavioral
33:46
insights team trying to make contact with my then seven or
33:49
eight-year-old to engage her in study and research around covid.
33:54
And I was like, who is behavioral insights team what?
33:57
So this is behavioral insights team.
33:58
That Daniel Andrews has directly under Premier and cabinet.
34:03
We improve outcomes victorians by applying behavioral insights
34:07
to policy service design and internal processes in the
34:11
Victorian public sector. We are a multidisciplinary team
34:15
of Behavioral Science. Experts quantitative and
34:17
qualitative researchers and policy offices who have worked
34:21
with Partners across government since 2006.
34:23
Mean to develop behaviourally, informed Solutions.
34:31
Behavioral scientists. Wow.
34:36
So that's using psychology and the understanding of of people
34:42
people's behavior to then use that.
34:46
So I think all that big time in Victoria that so the staged, the
34:52
staged, inclusions of things is a tactic in regards to Adaptive
34:58
leadership. So you can do that in an
35:00
organization for positive results, but as I saw, you can
35:03
see in - as well, Well, and so that that can sorrow just so
35:10
many questions there. I just realized it's not a, not
35:16
just coincidental that Daniel Andrews, just got back from a
35:20
trip to communist China, where they've been using that kind of
35:27
analysis for a long time with their surveillance.
35:33
Well restrictive surveillance and what they now do to coerce
35:38
or just control people basically manipulate manipulate.
35:43
Yeah I mean if you like okay yeah.
35:47
Okay I didn't know about that either.
35:49
They. Yeah, so I did say I dare say
35:53
cuz he'll say he's the mandates in regards to being allowed to
35:56
work in. That was a recommendation from
35:59
experts. I think I've just identified who
36:02
Those experts actually were. Yeah, octave.
36:06
They went this. They'll behavioral behavioral
36:09
scientists. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:12
Recommend, I always loved that when you heard these follow
36:15
stand up and say, all the experts are telling us, he's the
36:17
guy who these experts please, you've got to and then, you
36:20
know, and then when you look into what they would bring
36:22
forward as an expert, you think you have are not exactly an
36:26
expert and they very, very one-sided.
36:29
Always liked it when, you know, you hear an expert and they
36:31
would talk about Pros and cons give you both sides of the
36:34
stories you see the guy? Yeah okay this is an educated
36:37
person who's made a decision they're looking at everything.
36:40
The experts that get throwing up when we had the Charlie Victor
36:44
plan going ahead was that were paid paid Stooges by the
36:49
government. That's what I think.
36:52
Yeah. And there's this is probably
36:54
going into the vote at the moment that's going to happen
36:58
with the referendum. My biggest concern is will have
37:01
they'll hope they'll strategically-placed puppets.
37:05
To reflect their own. Yeah.
37:08
Yep. What you did the voice?
37:11
The voice? Yeah, the voice.
37:13
Oh yeah. Yeah, I'm not.
37:16
Anyway, I have concerns about the boys.
37:21
Yeah, I've considered this is like a whole other podcast.
37:24
Yeah, that's a whole other thing.
37:27
I think people some people make comments and they would
37:30
obviously assume that I'm for the voice.
37:34
I'm just I've just got It's a at the voice to be honest.
37:37
Just because of indigenous doesn't mean I have to be for
37:40
it. Come on but whatever.
37:42
Yeah you're talking it sounds like you've got a voice.
37:45
Yeah yeah yeah I've got my own voice and yeah anyway that's
37:53
that is a whole other podcast. Something on the our now is
37:56
there anything else that you'll just before we go?
37:58
Is there anything else that you what else you have to in the
38:01
near future? Anything else your any other
38:03
project you're doing needed? Tell people about if people want
38:08
to follow along, I'm on Instagram.
38:11
Tabitha Ricard on Instagram. I nothing I can probably talk
38:17
about Yeah, I got a few projects happening, probably more in the
38:24
art realm than the political, but I do have an event coming up
38:31
by the sounds of things. We just trying to look in date
38:33
some regards to a bit of a launch of a wellness initiative,
38:37
within bright, hope and things like that.
38:40
So yeah, current probably say too much about that either.
38:44
So stay tuned on my insta. It's a chicken instead you keep
38:50
people up that I'm not censored yet.
38:52
Okay. Yeah.
38:53
Yeah. That I'm aware of it's only a
38:57
matter of time. I'm sure you'll join us soon.
38:59
I'm halfway there for everything.
39:03
Thanks very much for joining us on the slippery.
39:05
Slope Tabitha Rickard. It's a chicken instead you keep
38:50
people up that I'm not censored yet.
38:52
Okay. Yeah.
38:53
Yeah. That I'm aware of it's only a
38:57
matter of time. I'm sure you'll join us soon.
38:59
I'm halfway there for everything.
39:03
Thanks very much for joining us on the slippery.
39:05
Slope Tabitha Rickard.