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Jaguars Happy Hour | August 18, 2025 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August eighteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet.
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  Speaker 2: Home Loans and now a guy who really doesn't like ties,
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  Speaker 2: which is why you'll sometimes find him dressed up in
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  Speaker 2: a lovely turtleneck.
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  Speaker 3: Jay P.
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  Speaker 4: Chackar not this time of year, though, Welcome in. It
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  Speaker 4: is Jaguars Happy Hour. The first hour presented by Jet
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  Speaker 4: Home Loans. We're at the Hyundai Studios on tintinxl, Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Here's what's coming up. The
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  Speaker 4: next two hours presented by Deep Eddie Vodka handcrafted with
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  Speaker 4: real fruit, proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. A jag
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  Speaker 4: Saints review. Yes is seventeen seventeen tie production from the
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  Speaker 4: offense and the defense. They listen to what they learned
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  Speaker 4: on the practice field and brought it to the game.
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  Speaker 4: Star certainly did Trade Alert. Jaguar has made a deal today.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to that Kevin up. We'll keep it real
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  Speaker 4: and pick the fifty three man roster today just for
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  Speaker 4: you right here, and then fanatics fan questions of course,
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  Speaker 4: and a little later we're gonna pick the schedule. So
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  Speaker 4: it's our last show before the regular season opener on Monday,
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  Speaker 4: so we've got to go game by game and get
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  Speaker 4: predictions all the way from now until January. We're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have all the answers for you coming up Austin Lane
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  Speaker 4: with us. Of course, again, we're out to beat Priscolle.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get him connected here fairly soon. Austin, what's
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  Speaker 4: up man? What's up?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, are you actually like a big turtlenet guy
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  Speaker 5: and the zero turtlenecks same? I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 5: worn a turtle uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: I've always lived, for the most part, in the South,
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  Speaker 4: where it's hotter than hell. Makes sense.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm reminded of growing up in kindergarten and first
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  Speaker 5: grade having a sting at choir concerts, you know, for
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  Speaker 5: church and everything, and my mom had addressed me up
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  Speaker 5: on a turtle like every single time, and obviously with me,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I always try to rebel again, but I'll
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  Speaker 5: never forget man. She she always pointed to uh Green
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  Speaker 5: Bay Packer great.
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  Speaker 4: And I believe Jacksonville local Leroy.
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  Speaker 5: Butler used to always wear a giant tittle necks, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when he played for the back. He did, so she
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  Speaker 5: she would be like, well, if if he's wearing one, Austin,
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  Speaker 5: you can wear one for a two hour acchoir concert.
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  Speaker 5: So that was kind of my end up wearing tourtal necks.
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  Speaker 5: But I was never impressed with it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and me either.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, choking, man? Is this something about choking around
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  Speaker 5: the neck? I don't care what it looks like, man,
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  Speaker 5: I want to be comfortable. That's I'm not even on
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  Speaker 5: a collar day. I'm still wearing the Jaguars issued but
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  Speaker 5: you know it's more of a casual looks fright, it's
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  Speaker 5: the try fit. Yeah that Yeah, I appreciate you guys,
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  Speaker 5: you know, setting this up for me. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: oh lot to do with it. This was free ninety nine.
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  Speaker 4: Man. It's like I'm back on the team. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: You welcome back to the building. That's great. So hey,
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  Speaker 4: Rover reaction Monday again after seventeen seventeen tie jag starters.
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  Speaker 4: It is really the story this Austin. It's like all
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  Speaker 4: this talk all week and practice of slowing it down,
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  Speaker 4: alignment and assignment and communication and pop Warner drills and things,
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  Speaker 4: and then on Thursday, let's go through a scrimmage and
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  Speaker 4: go through all the components of a game and play
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  Speaker 4: these quarters and put the coaches in the bar. Let's
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  Speaker 4: just let's slow it down a little bit. And it
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  Speaker 4: didn't look so great a lot of times on offense
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  Speaker 4: that day. And then they come out against the Saints, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and performed pretty well both both drives for offense and defense.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was.
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  Speaker 5: Really telling, you know, because we talked about some of
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  Speaker 5: the verse that you're gonna face as a head coach,
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  Speaker 5: especially a first year head coach, and you got a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of that against the Steelers, right. It didn't
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  Speaker 5: look clean. You had some self inflicted penalties, You had
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  Speaker 5: the defenders kind of looking around saying what do we
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  Speaker 5: do and everything, So it didn't look good. Preseason game
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  Speaker 5: number one, you change it up a little bit. You
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  Speaker 5: gotta flip the script, right, so you kind of go
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  Speaker 5: through almost like a walk through, like a back to
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  Speaker 5: basics type of practice. Then you go with an actual scrimmage,
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  Speaker 5: which I was really surprised about, especially on a third
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  Speaker 5: day when you have a game coming up on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: So I was questioning how much those starters were gonna play.
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  Speaker 5: And we see the response on on Sunday and it's
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  Speaker 5: a completely different team. And I think that just goes
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  Speaker 5: to show you that the coaching is getting through, the
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  Speaker 5: communication is getting through, because I feel like in the past,
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  Speaker 5: and this happens with a lot of teams, where it
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  Speaker 5: can look a certain type of way and then the
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  Speaker 5: next week it looks much like the same and then
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  Speaker 5: that's what that starts to become your identity and that's
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  Speaker 5: what you're known for. And I think if you take
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  Speaker 5: preseason game number one compared to preseason game number two,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's a night and day difference, and that's great
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  Speaker 5: because that comes down to communication and getting your point across.
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  Speaker 4: That's one side of it. Sure. The other part is
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  Speaker 4: that they were they playing the Saints starters.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, listen, and that's it's a good thing that
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  Speaker 5: this will happened because no matters who's who's out there,
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  Speaker 5: it's a preseason game.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, let's turne it back a little bit, right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, when we're talking about you know that the
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  Speaker 5: Saints sports radio people right now, I mean, have fun
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  Speaker 5: with your quarterback. So I'm gonna say, you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: that and yes, you did play against a bunch of twos.
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  Speaker 5: But listen, JP, I don't care if it's twos, threes,
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  Speaker 5: or fours. Right from what you saw playing against the Steelers,
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  Speaker 5: twos and granted, I'm sure they're maybe a little more
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  Speaker 5: talented there, but a little more deep in the position,
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  Speaker 5: you know, front to bottom. But like, at the end
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  Speaker 5: of the day, what you put on film is what
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  Speaker 5: you put on film, and and I think in terms
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  Speaker 5: of confidence, it gives players confidence. I remember we played
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  Speaker 5: preseason and we were successful. It didn't matter if it
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  Speaker 5: was the ones, twos, or threes. Like, if you put
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  Speaker 5: good film out there, you're gonna feel good about yourself, right.
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  Speaker 5: So I think when those guys came in that locker
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  Speaker 5: room after that Steelers game, you know.
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  Speaker 4: They're kind of like, oh, don't know a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And.
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  Speaker 5: I think you're you're a little more confident now after
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  Speaker 5: this Saints game.
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence and the starters with two drives down the
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  Speaker 4: field twice, can't turn the ball over though the fumble
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  Speaker 4: you got tripped up. I don't know if he got
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  Speaker 4: stepped on or just tripped over his own face. I
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  Speaker 4: think Ezra stepped on his foot when you slow it down, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta either fall on it or I mean, what
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  Speaker 4: do you do there just handing.
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  Speaker 5: On to it right, you know if it's you know
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  Speaker 5: obviously if you're watching that home road, Yeah, you just
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  Speaker 5: gotta fall and just eat it. I mean a situation
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  Speaker 5: where you're falling your off balance right and you still
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  Speaker 5: try to get the ball to Tank. You know, it
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  Speaker 5: was the opposite hand. I think Tank was ready for
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  Speaker 5: it. It was just it didn't look good. And when you
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  Speaker 5: talk about breaking down the fundamentals in practice, well you
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  Speaker 5: need to be able to hand the ball off right
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  Speaker 5: and not get stepped on, especially with Ezra Cleveland who
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  Speaker 5: didn't play that spot.
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  Speaker 4: For a while.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, that that didn't look clean. And and I'll say
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  Speaker 5: up until that before there too, you talk about the
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  Speaker 5: drop ball from Brian Thomas Junior. I felt like if
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  Speaker 5: this would happen a couple of years ago, that would
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  Speaker 5: have snowballed into more and more mistakes, and it would
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  Speaker 5: have snowballed into you know, just bad quarterback play, bad
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  Speaker 5: offensive you know play in general.
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  Speaker 4: And that didn't happen. Like you saw the drop ball.
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  Speaker 4: They responded.
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  Speaker 5: They were able to run the football down there and
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  Speaker 5: get to the to the red zone and then obviously
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  Speaker 5: the mistake from Trevor. But I did like how that
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  Speaker 5: team responded also for the next offensive series, right like
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  Speaker 5: it didn't and once again, yeah it's the Saints. Two's
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  Speaker 5: JP right, So like, how excited can we get? No,
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  Speaker 5: it's excited. I didn't mean to like put the fire out.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know it's but it's a preseason.
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  Speaker 5: But from what we've seen in the past though, when
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  Speaker 5: it's drop balls, when it's turnovers like that, that's the
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  Speaker 5: game right there. Right, Oh, okay, there's a drop ball,
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  Speaker 5: there's a turnover. Okay, it's going to be more of
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  Speaker 5: the same, and they're able to overcome that. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that speaks volumes to what it was last year
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  Speaker 5: to what it is in this preseason.
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  Speaker 4: Defensively, that was a lot of the talk earlier in
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  Speaker 4: the week was the communication issues. Some plays might have
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  Speaker 4: been coming in a little bit late and then players
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  Speaker 4: in the field not realizing what's going on. They seemed
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  Speaker 4: locking no miscommunications that we saw, and you know, a
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  Speaker 4: couple of sacks they had to take away later in
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  Speaker 4: the game. Now, they also gave up the two minute
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  Speaker 4: touchdown at the end to tie the game. But those
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  Speaker 4: are you know, the I think overall, just a cleaner
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  Speaker 4: overall feel on the defensive side. Yeah, overall, I think
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  Speaker 4: a lot better. You didn't see guys.
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  Speaker 5: You know, turning around wondering where I'm at, Like everybody
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  Speaker 5: was lined up properly, because I was really worried about
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  Speaker 5: this Kellen Moore offense in terms of the way they
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  Speaker 5: use motion and the way they hit. They confused defenses
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  Speaker 5: and it just seemed like this Jaguars defense was right
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  Speaker 5: to roll and you saw pressure, you know. I think
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  Speaker 5: we saw a little more in terms of what Coach
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  Speaker 5: Camp from bringing the table in terms of blitzes, right,
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  Speaker 5: I think against the Pittsburgh Steelers there was a lot
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  Speaker 5: more vanilla, just the meat and potatoes. We did see
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  Speaker 5: some blitzeres that got home, which was cool to see.
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  Speaker 5: We saw some twists up front. Trevon Walker almost got home.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was intentional grounding. They got that penalty,
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  Speaker 5: so I think he still gets the sack for that,
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  Speaker 5: but we saw that They call it the exit game
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  Speaker 5: where he goes first and then the tackle comes around him.
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  Speaker 4: So it was great to see guys in the backfield.
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  Speaker 5: It was great to see for the most part, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the run game, especially with those first couple series, you know,
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  Speaker 5: getting stifled. I thought it was a great showing by
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  Speaker 5: the defense and most importantly, they were lining up properly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with that. Let's start with that. That's
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  Speaker 4: start basics, no doubt about that. Yeah, coming up Pete
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  Speaker 4: Prisco's CBS Sports senior wrider. We're trying to get him
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  Speaker 4: connected on this some Monday after the Jaguars tie final
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  Speaker 4: with the Saints. Seventeen seventeen were on ten ten XL,
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. All Right, So that's
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  Speaker 4: I think, overall a positive feel, even though the end
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  Speaker 4: of the game was weird, right, I mean, that's just
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  Speaker 4: how these preseason games can go. Sometimes they had the
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  Speaker 4: chance with the football in their hand, and all these
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  Speaker 4: fans they are like, oh, it's just like just ran
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  Speaker 4: it and called time out. Yet sixty yard field goal
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  Speaker 4: Like it's you know, like shooting a layup. Yeah, for sure,
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  Speaker 4: And to be fair, I think.
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  Speaker 5: In terms of how that was handled, I think would
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  Speaker 5: have been different if the ones were in, right, But
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  Speaker 5: maybe you want to see a little more from the
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  Speaker 5: quarterback that was in, Like I don't think you handle
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  Speaker 5: that situation with the ones as opposed to you did
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  Speaker 5: with more than two than threes. Right, And if I'm
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  Speaker 5: talking the NFL, can we start like there should never
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  Speaker 5: be a tie in a football game?
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  Speaker 4: JP, like over, I don't care.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, hey, I'm not saying you want preseason. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not saying overtime. I'm saying, if the Saints go in
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  Speaker 5: there and score towards the end, let's like put the
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  Speaker 5: ball on like the seven yard line and say, if
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  Speaker 5: you guys want to go for this, it's three points
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  Speaker 5: or something, or like you know, the regular season. I know, man,
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  Speaker 5: no one feels good about a tie. Well, how are
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  Speaker 5: you gonna end the game?
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  Speaker 4: You're just gonna have like old.
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  Speaker 5: Set man, put it, Put it on the like a
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  Speaker 5: shoot on the five yard line or like the six
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  Speaker 5: yard line, and say, if you guys can convert this,
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  Speaker 5: it's three points to win the game.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a two point play conversion. It's like the
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  Speaker 4: college football rule a little bit. Well, it's it's more
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  Speaker 4: like which is ridiculous. That is a little ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm saying because there's already two point conversions, right,
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  Speaker 5: But I'm saying move the back of move the ball
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  Speaker 5: back a little farther and get a three point conversion.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want any overtime in the preseason.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want any ties. I don't care about the ties.
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  Speaker 5: I don't feel about a time.
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  Speaker 4: Man. I'm like, I feel really damn good that I
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  Speaker 4: got out of here in three hours.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I feel like. It's all about our that's
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  Speaker 5: a good point. That's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine. All those extra football and I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how you do three in the regular season. Man, that's
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  Speaker 4: what it is, you know, But no, we don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody got work in sure. The starters aren't going back
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  Speaker 4: out there in overtime.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, Man, put it at the six yard line,
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  Speaker 5: JP and make it a three point play.
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  Speaker 4: M I think we got something there. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: Roger anything there. Call me back. I don't think we
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  Speaker 4: have any Roger who would have got for me. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: Let's come back in a moment. We'll try to get
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  Speaker 4: Pete Prisco in here. We've got plenty ahead. We've got
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  Speaker 4: to pick the roster, we've got to pick the schedule.
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  Speaker 4: We've got a fanatics, fan questions. We are loaded up Boston.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, is this like, is total was selling asking
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  Speaker 5: us to pick the roster for like I assume that's kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of their job, right, show him how to do his Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I got you. I got That's what Pete usually likes
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  Speaker 4: to do here in I got you, So that tradition
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  Speaker 4: is here.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see. Well, it might be watching The All twenty two.
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  Speaker 5: He might be busy. He's busy, man, he might be.
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  Speaker 4: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadrick with Austin Lane Prisco
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  Speaker 4: coming up. Trade Alert Jaguars made a deal today. Jaggs
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  Speaker 4: traded offensive lineman Luke Fortner to the Saints for defensive
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  Speaker 4: tackle Colin Saunders, who played in the game Austin he
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  Speaker 4: played I think eleven snaps.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was the their starter as well. I
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  Speaker 5: mean for a while, well, I saw so I mean
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  Speaker 5: Colin Sander's like listen, you know people see that trade
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  Speaker 5: and they think, okay, WHOA where's mean for Eric Rmstead,
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  Speaker 5: mean for for Mason Smith?
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  Speaker 4: But like aves are.
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  Speaker 5: Both on the side, right, Well what it means, But
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  Speaker 5: it means he's going to be a prime primarily a
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  Speaker 5: nose like. This guy has played a lot of nose
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  Speaker 5: tackle in his career. Now, if you watch film on him,
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  Speaker 5: especially when he's in Kansas City and everything, like he
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  Speaker 5: did two gap and when he's had some success getting
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  Speaker 5: in the backfield causing chaos for a quarterback. He did
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  Speaker 5: show glimpses of being able to play that two gap
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  Speaker 5: in the B gap right, So one could say, well,
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  Speaker 5: can you move him to the three a little bit
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  Speaker 5: and give him some depth there. I think this guy
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  Speaker 5: has brought in to maybe push Devon Hamilton a little
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  Speaker 5: bit and to kind of reinforce you know that that
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  Speaker 5: run stoping capabilities of a nose tackle. Now, the guy
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  Speaker 5: can do backflips. I'm not sure if you've seen that
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  Speaker 5: the videos of him doing backlips, JP, I can't do
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  Speaker 5: a backlip, can you?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 5: Pretty impressive when your nose tackle is doing a straight line.
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  Speaker 5: I know, pretty impressive when when your nose tackle is
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  Speaker 5: doing backlips. And he was actually a high school running
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  Speaker 5: back as well, so the dudes kind of kind of
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  Speaker 5: preaks guy.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see, he was on in the game the other day.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's like six foot six to one. But
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  Speaker 4: how fat is not fat? How big, dude? Do you
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  Speaker 4: want your three hundred and twenty four pound guy doing backflip?
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  Speaker 5: He can do backflips. He's capable. I mean, I'd rather
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  Speaker 5: have him do backflips than not do backflips.
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  Speaker 4: I remember, I would rather than not do backflips. Honestly.
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  Speaker 5: I remember in my draft class, Jason Pierre Paul essentially
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  Speaker 5: got draft in the first round because you could do like,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like, twenty five backlips in a row, and
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  Speaker 5: that got.
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  Speaker 4: Him the first round. Great. Well, he's a little more
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  Speaker 4: athletic though, if you're are not an athlete, that's not
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  Speaker 4: what I mean. Different body style right for Pierre, definitely
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  Speaker 4: different body style.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm just under the impression if you can do
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  Speaker 5: a backflip and you're over two hundred pounds, congratulations, I'll
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  Speaker 5: tip my cap to you.
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  Speaker 4: You're an athlete, and this dude can do a backflip.
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  Speaker 4: He's an athlete. Is Devon Hamilton his role in question? Now?
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: I think you have to at least ask it, right, because.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: This is a guy that we we expect to kind
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: of go back to his former self, right. He had
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: some injuries last year and everything, and he has the
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: praises of Josh Heinz Allen, Josh Heines Allen, you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: saying really highly of him, saying it is one of
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: the best nose tackles in the in the game. So yeah,
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: I think it puts him on notice a little bit.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: But you know, when we talk about bolstering this defensive line,
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: I still think there's gonna be a question in terms
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: of who's playing that three technique because until it's the
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: regular season, we know a little more about these injury reports.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: We're not show about Rick Armstead yet, and we're not
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: really sure when Masons Fisk gonna come back and play.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fully, I mean he's gonna working his way back,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: and you know, who knows even about this week against
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins and the practice and all that. You know,
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: the other part of this is that the Jags have
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: moved on from Luke Fortner. Yeah, drafted by the previous regime,
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: of course, and was in the starting lineup and then
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: was getting pushed around a lot, and then was not
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: in the starting lineup anymore. And another draft pick that
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: just didn't work out here for sure.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: And I think when you look at Luke Fortner, I
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: mean I think Mannaheim, right, yeah, yeah, it was the
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: other seven of Monheim. Yeah, he's the USC guy, right,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: he's kind of to Tony's dude and everything like that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Tony brought him over here.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: I think he's been looking really good on film, you know,
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: whether it's playing center, whether it's playing guards. So I
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: think the Jaguars like him a lot. And I think
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: that just kind of goes to show you. You know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: I think Luke Fortner he was expendable in terms of
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: what they're paying him and what they're asking him to do.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: So it makes a lot of sense. I think, you know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: your floor got a lot deeper now simply because Fortner
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: probably wasn't gonna make the team as far as I'm concerned.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: So now you get a rotational guy at least at
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: the nose tackle who can maybe push for some sort
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: of starting time.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a I think it's a good trade.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: It's a great trade. You know, they got out of that.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: They needed a position, they needed some depth at.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: I probably would have done it before the game, Like
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Like if I'm James Gladstone and I'm
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: like I'm watching you know, my my future Jacksonville j
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: w here and knows, you know, take on double teams
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: and everything, I'll be like, let's go and get them
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: off the field.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: I think I know what he's capable of. See. I
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: wonder when that conversation started though the start early in
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: the week. Did it just kind of happen during the game.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: You know, it's a great question, because all of a
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: sudden after the game, you hear it's happening. I mean, yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: maybe they saw something they liked. I mean, it had
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: to happen during the game. Yeah, Like there's like two
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: booths down probably right, sure. I mean I'm convinced if
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: it happened before that, they would have been playing. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: that makes sense. Keeping healthy absolutely, because Fortner played deep
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: in the game. He did. Yeah, yep, So maybe it
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: was just hey, let's see how it goes, and then
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: after the game, if if both are healthy and good,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: just make the deal.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Now do you think, like did Luke partner stay there
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: or did not mean seriously I'm not even right question.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know there's in my old baseball days, there
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: were a couple of instances where organizations made trades of
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: guys and all they did was switch dugouts that night,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Like Marlins or affiliate would play the Rents affiliate. They'd
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: make a deal for minor leaguers and literally the second
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: baseman would grab his bag, walk underneath to the other
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: dugout and start the next night for the other team
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: against his old team. Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know how that works because like, obviously you
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: only packed for a short weekend. Granted it was New Orleans.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: He got packed for New Orleans, but like you only
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: packed for a short weekend, so you got to go
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: back and get all your stuff.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I think there was one of those, one of the
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: trips to London. I think it was Cincinnati. I think
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: we signed Jags signed a guy off the Cincinnati practice
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: squad or something to go to London. But he didn't
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: have a passport with him, so he had to like
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: fly back to Connecticut or something to get his passport
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: and then come later and like meet the team on
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Friday instead of go over on Tuesday. It was one
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: of those kind of things. After the game tho, it
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: was the same idea. They were thinking, Oh, we'll just
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: go with us. Oh no, he won't a little bit.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I think again the authorities say no on that one.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: So all right, trade happens and there you go. So
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: we're gonna get into the offensive line coming up in
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: a little bit now, and some of the other positions there,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: and then the defensive front. This so you think this
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: bolsters the interior a little bit. I think it bolsters
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: the interior.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: But more specifically, I think the nose tackle right now,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: if we're talking a pass rush package, you know, could
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: you move into the three technique possibly, because like I said,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, and despite what you may think about being
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: an athlete, this guy's got some fast feet and and
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I think he there is room there.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: He's big, he's a big hustle guy.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: And I was watching some practice till actually that was
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: all over Twitter with him and Joe Colin when he
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: was in Kansas City.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: And yeah, he won two super Bowls at Kansas He
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: went to Super Bowl in Kansas City.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think I think that actually means something
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: as well, because you know, if you want to go
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: back to you know, the pre draft and everything, James
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Gladstone talked a lot about intangibly rich players, right, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: if you look at you know, winning a couple of
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: Super Bowls and being part of that culture in Kansas
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: City in New Orleans, I believe he was like I
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: forgot what they call it, but he was like on
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: the leadership council where they would meet like every week
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: and everything just kind of gold for some stuff. So
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: like he was very well regarded in Kansas City and
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: also well regarded in New Orleans. So if you're bringing
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: a locker room leader over, if you're bringing a guy
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: who's winning couple with super Bowls, that's only gonna.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Help bolster that locker room. Now, Jackson, I have no
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: doubt about that veteran player been at it at a
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: high level, and that seemed to be something they look
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: for in free agency in the offseason. Two guys have
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: been at it, who have their act together, who line
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: up right? You know, That's that was a big theme.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, makes sense and also I guess fun in fact,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: his brother is a dancer for Taylor Swift. Like this
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: is all with Twitter to Ada JPM. I'm not I'm
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: not sure if you're on the same Twitter channels that
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: But no.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: But but his brother is a back like a backup
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: dancer for Taylor Swift, So I mean athleticism runs in
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: the family.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: We're gonna go to Pete Prisco, CBS Sports senior writer
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: to get his thoughts on and on this. Pete, are
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: you with us? Good afternoon, because I'm here.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: You're here amazingly I'm here.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Hey, move your camera to your left a little bit
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: my left. There we go the other way the other line.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was sitting here the whole time
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: listening to you too.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Well, that's great. What'd you think it was the best
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: thirty minutes we've had in a long time.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I gotta tell you that sounds like something to Selly
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: would say back in the day. And it's not true then,
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: and it's not true now. Look, I'll be honest with you.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: When I watching the game yesterday and I heard you
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: guys both talking about it, I wrote down a lot
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: of stuff I did watch the old twenty two today.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: By the way, Austin that password though, Pete, what's up man?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: You gotta you better keep looking. Look, the bottom line
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: is there was a lot of things that were better
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: from last week, and there's still some concerning things, and
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: we can get into a bunch of them. But the
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: quarterback to me is much improved. I've said it all along.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: I think mechanically the motion is sped up, that is shorter,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: his stride is shorter, and the balls get out. Now,
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: having said that, there were a couple of things that
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: he did that that were concerning. Remember when he was
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: flushed out of the pocket and through the pass to
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: the left to uh Brian Thomas on the sideline.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: It was a short, short throw to the left side.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: He didn't need to leave that pocket. I don't know
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: why he left it, you know how you know I
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: hate that Jap. It drives me crazy. But so he
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: didn't need to leave that a b.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: The play where he tried to throw it into the
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: end zone, did Brian Thomas.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we tried to. He stepped up a little bit.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, there is he's still he All he has
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: to do is get to his left. He stayed on
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the right too long.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Gets Brian Thomas won right away on the on the
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: on the slant he's wide open and he never gets.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: To him until it's too late. So a couple of
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: little things, but all in all, I thought he was
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: much better. You know, he he threw the ball better.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: I thought he was more in rhythm with his receivers.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: The throw to Brian Thomas, the one he missed, the short,
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: the one was low. Brian Thomas probably should have caught.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a great throw, but those are There's a
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: play there, and if you go back and watch the tape,
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Strange is wide open down the seam and he doesn't
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: throw it, so I don't know if he I don't
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: know what the design of that play is because the
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: safeties are split and he kind of splits the two
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: of them. He lost it over the linebacker and that's
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: a big play.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: So there was a lot of good.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: There's still some concerning I thought the offensive line was
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: much better. Like you guys said, I think, you know, again,
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: they're playing against backups, so you got to you gotta
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: take that for what it's worth. There's a lot of
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: backups out there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: See. I I was playing the role of Pete Prisco
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: earlier and saying just that. So since you weren't with us.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'll step in. I'll
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: be the one that kind of puts out the fire
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: for a minute, you know what.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: JP it mattered, you know, but but I'll say McCarry
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: was better. The right tackle got walked back a couple
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: of times, but he was okay.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: In the run game, I thought the center was solid,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: Cleveland was good, and Walker Little was pretty good. But
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: you know they're not They're working against guys that you
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: know won't play, and so it's hard to make it
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: an evaluation.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: But I thought it was definitely better.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: You know what they'd look like to me, they look
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: like they're better coached from an offensive line standpoint than
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: they've been the last couple of years.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: That you can see that much.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: You can see, Pete, what do you make of that?
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: You know, the towards the in the red zone, the turnover,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Trevor stumbles, trips, I think over Ezra Cleveland.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: On his foot.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean they're like I get everyone like
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: catch twenty you know, hindsight twenty two, Like okay, you
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: want to you want to just fall on the ball
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: and you're good to go. But like I don't mind
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: him trying to make that handoff and he still tried
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: to make it. You know, is that more on Tank Bigsby?
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Is that more on Trevor Lawrence, Like what has to
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: happen in that situation, it's.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: More on a Cleveland.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, that's.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Probably, But you also got to learn to live with
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: what you have. You know, like sometimes if you step
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: on your foot, you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Might just go down in that scenario and go to
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: the next play, whereas he reached out to try and
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: make the handoff, which sometimes you say, just just live.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: And move on to the next play.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: So I think it's it's a combination of things sometimes,
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: you know, that's one of the flaws of Trevor Arms.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: He tries to do too much at times.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: And so I think maybe in that scenario, you just
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: go down and you're down, you don't try and reach
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: out and hand them the ball.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: But that's the natural thing is to try and hand
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: off and see if you can get something out of it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: But it was if you really want to blame anybody,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: blame Cleveland. He stepped on his foot.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Hey, let's uh, let's come back. We'll dig into this
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: old line a little bit, Pete. We're gonna cut the
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: roster tonight a little later.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: You know, JP, you said we didn't have a show
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: before the regular season. Don't we have one next week?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: No slabor day next week?
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: No, the that's two weeks.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we do have one next week. So wow, calendar.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Imagine that you must be so caught up in what's
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: going on and everything.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: That you'm so locked in on Jaguars football that I
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: forgot what day it was. Next week.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a show next week. We can cut
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: the we can we can well cut the rock, we
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: can cut the roster. But playing out the season we
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: can do next week.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I like, Oh, go ahead and do that or what
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Pete said, We'll just do that. I'm glad because done
• 26:27
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• 26:28
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• 26:33
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• 26:37
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• 26:40
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• 26:42
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• 26:57
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• 26:59
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• 26:59
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• 27:02
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• 27:06
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• 27:11
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• 27:15
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• 27:17
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• 27:21
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• 27:25
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• 27:29
  Speaker 4: And that gets us into the offensive line. Pete, what
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: is your starting five offensive line for the Jaguars if
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: you're picking it today?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Oh No, I really don't know. I don't think they know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: They don't either.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: No, you know, I heard you mentioned Austin about Manheim.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: He was one of my favorite guys in the draft.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: He was on my team of guys I like better
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: than the scouts, my better than team, and he's been
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: better than I thought he's been. Was going to be
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: mean at left guard. He's got a wide base anchor
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: moved people.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Put I put picture of him, a play of them
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: up on Twitter today, and he's better than I thought.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Then he went in at center.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: He had two bad plays, and I don't even know
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: if they were two bad ones. One he kind of
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: got walked back a little bit and passed protection. The
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: other one was late in the game on the run
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: where but he looked like he was It was a
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: run to the right. He was trying to get the
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: cut off block on the on the guy, and he
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: looked like he thought he might have some help behind him,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: and he got nothing.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: So then he panicked and tried to get the guy,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and the guy remember what I'm talking about.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: He was trying to scrape up it seemed like. But
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: then he kind of second guessed himself.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, it looked like he might have should have
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: had some help coming from the other side.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: So really, when I.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: Watched the tape and I watched it all all and
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: watched him, he had two bad plays total, and really
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: only one, And that's impressed me. He's looks technically like
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: a veteran the way he plays the game, and he's
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: tough and he looks for action.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I love that he looks for action, so we don't
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: know how he'll be when he's got a big.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Power player on him, because he's not you know, he's
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: got short arms and he's not overpowering, but he battles you.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: I think of the two rookies, he's been the more
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: impressive of the two on the offensive line, I think.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: And then it speaks volumes too because Luke Portner than
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: obviously traded after that game. I thought that game may
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: have said a lot for Luke Portner's future here in Jacksonville.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: When you have, you know, at least a decent backup
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: there where you can maybe bolster a defensive line. They're like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I think it's no mistake that Luke Portner then was
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: traded after that game.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: And the other thing, Luke Fordter actually was better this camp.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: And I'm going to say that about the offensive line.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: I think the offensive line they've all put look better,
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: and that goes to coaching. I think this coaching staff
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: has done a nice job with the offensive line. I
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: don't know where they are talent wise yet, and we
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: won't know until they actually play games, but they look
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: more technically, sad, they look like they're better coach, and
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: I think you know, Cleveland looked better than he did
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: a year ago. Even Fortner looked better than he did
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: a year ago. So I think that's that's a big
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: step for the offensive line.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So to answer your question, JP, I don't know, and
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think they know.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: I would think Hainsey would be the starter at center.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: I would think right guard. I mean McCarry was better.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: I thought McCarey was pretty good yesterday, so he might
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: be the right guard.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: The right tackle, Dogo is playing pretty well, but he's
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: just kind of it's a minor injury right now.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Where's their starting right tackle?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Same thing, lower body and not expected to be long term.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I think their ideal scenario would be the five
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: guys that they started the season thinking we're going to
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: be the.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: Starters, which would be Little Cleveland, Hainesy, McCarry.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: And.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Anton Harrison Harrison, So that's the.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Five Bob you mentioned. The dog has been better than
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: they thought. I think Monheim's been better than anybody thought.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: So I think you know Fred Johnson. I thought Fred
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: Johnson got walked back a couple times as a right
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: tackle yesterday to and passed protection. I think he and
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: he got beat inside on one play. Do you remember
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: that one, Austin when he got beat inside?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm not I thought he would compete for
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: a starting job and be much more competitive before that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: And he hasn't had the kype of straining camp in preseason.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I thought he would have.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: And then in the scrimmage the other day Thursday, they
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: were working Anton Harrison it left tackle for a minute
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: until his injury. And Okay, what does that tell you,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Pete about what you're thinking?
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: J Peter?
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Did they say why Milam only played like a handful
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: of plays yesterday?
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Did he get dinged?
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember him limping around in the game.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he must have gotten d he must something.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Must have happened. Liam Cohen didn't talk today and he's
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: scheduled to speak after practice tomorrow, so hopefully we'll have
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: a little bit more.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: By the way, when they get to the deep backups, only,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: how are some of those guys bad?
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean wow, Pete, Okay, I mean well,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of teams if you're talking about
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: your third string tackle or your third string guard, you're
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: probably gonna be in a little trouble.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Austin, you know that the backup wins period are
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: a problem. But you get to third teams.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: You know, when I travel around training camps, I see
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: the CFL scouts all the time. They're like vultures waiting,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: you know, for guys to get cut. And I'm not
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: so sure they would take some of those third teamers.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: That's how bad those.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Guys have been.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's really uplifting for them. Pete, that's great.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you want me to be real. You
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: want me to what do you want me to, Pops?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I'm giving you a real analysis. The depth, the deep
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: depth of the roster has.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: A problems do most I mean if Pete saying this,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: what do you think they're saying in the offensive line room?
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: It ain't like, oh, hey, you're doing you know, you're
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: doing an okay job. Like they're gonna tell like it is.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: That's the way it goes.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Man sixty one, I mean giving away mine, that's my
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: old number. He's doing a disservice too.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Is it retired somewhere? Pete, we don't know about it?
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Kidding me?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Have you watched him? He's not very
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: good struggle with it? I mean they say have injuries
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: on that offensive line problems.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: The good news about the offensive line in Mannheim and
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Mileam you have developmental guys and they haven't had that
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: in a long time.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: They need that, you know, got young guys that they
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: could develop.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I mean Cooper Hodges was going to be that guy
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: with the devastating injury.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but they have a lot of how many
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: offensive linemen are hurt right now? Five?
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a handful. Remember cole Van Lannon's out for.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: The camp, right, so you got Harrison.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's three. And that's kind of what it is
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: right now. And those are three guys that you're kind
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: of leaning on or expecting to beat on the roster.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: And then we think Whyatmullum might might be like a
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: little banged up number four. Yeah, not good.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: But but again, I think the line looks better in
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: terms of the technique, the way they're blocking. They seem
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: more in sync with how they you know, pin and
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: pull and you know everything they do with the movement
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: that getting to the second level.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I think it's much better than it's been.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: And I think it's really telling too, Like you're seeing
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: guys finished blocks and I get it, you're not going
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: against you know, the top tier defensive lines yet, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: there's something to be said if you're running back and
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: you don't have to you know, wait in the back
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: foot for the hold, open up the holes right there.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Just run through it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, you saw that with Travis Etan goes like
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: second and three or whatever it was, towards midfield and
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: he just runs straight, gets seven eight yards, Like that's
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: what you want to see. That's a that's an offensive
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: line really inflicting their will on somebody. And I think,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: you know, if you look at the past offensive lines
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: that the Jaguars have had, like on paper, sure you
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: know these are names that we all know, but then
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: when you see him in the game, there was no gel,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: there was no camaraderie. It's just kind of every guy
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: was off doing their own thing. So I do like
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: what we're seeing so far. Once again, I get it's
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: against some backups, but I like what I'm seeing so
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: far up.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: And Strange did a nice job in those runs too,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: pulling around through the hole. So he's a good blocker
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: and that's good to have him doing that.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I think you see why Strangers to the starting tight
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: end of this team because he had two nice pull
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: blocks where he just he found work. He found a
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: linebacker and stayed on him. Man.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: And nothing against Evan Ingram because Evan Ingram is a
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: great ten in his own right. But I'm not sure
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: if Evan Ingram is making those types of blocks.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: No, I've seen I saw plays where Evan Ingram was
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: blown up in the hole and they kind of didn't
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: like it too much. I mean, he tried, but he
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: didn't like it too much.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: No, back to the offensive line quickly and the cohesion
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: part of it. Right, there's only a practice against the
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Dolphins and a game against the Dolphins left. I'm gonna
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: guess that many of the air quote starters might not
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: touch the field at hard Rock Stadium on Saturday. When
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: do you find that cohesion?
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: Do we know we want to practice instead of like
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: usually it's two, you know, three? Like why have theyn't
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: even doing one practice? I don't know schedule. I think
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: the Dolphins have done multiple joint practices.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Dolphins did practice with the Lions and the Bears and
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: been away for eleven days. Maybe maybe they feel they've
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: done enough already, but they're only doing They're doing one
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: on Thursday.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go down and watch that, so I'll be
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: down there nice. But yeah, they when did you get
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the cohesion?
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: Well, you don't get it because you haven't had guys
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: in the lineup and you haven't set on anything.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: That's why they got to settle on something by the
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: end of this week.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: If they could settle on a five group of five
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: by the end of this week, then you get three
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: what do you get. You know, you're not gonna play
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: in this game, but then you get three good weeks
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: of work together before the game.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I think you have to settle on that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think now it's to the point
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: where you're not going to see them in any more
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: game situations. You're gonna have them for that Dolphins practice
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: and we'll see what that looks like. But I doubt
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: you're gona see any starters versus you know, in the
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: preseason game verst the Dolphins.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: So what you have is what you have right now.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: And I agree with Pete here that the sooner that
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: you can get that that starting roster in place, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: think the quicker they can kind of gel a little
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: bit and learn how to, you know, work up each
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: other's tendencies.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I'm so screwed up.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to start.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, I gave you I think it's going to
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: be what they what they thought it would be, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: that's how they're going to start the season.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I was so screwed up on the schedule all these
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: weeks and things like, I'm all the days are running
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: together of when practices will be before the season. I mean,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I guess because thursdays of practice, Saturday is the game
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: they'll come back. They'll probably have some practices early next
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: week around the cut day and all that. I think
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: they have to have what four days off on that
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: bye weekend?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Three days yeah, it's bye week, yeah, technically.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, and then they'll probably as my guest, be out
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: there Labor Day Monday for a walk through ish going
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: into the week, a bonus practice. It's usually how it's done,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: no idea, what what Liam's gonna.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Do because that's game week.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, so they actually have two weeks to get
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: ready for after after this week, when they two weeks
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: to gail.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: When they decide on it, you know. And but here's
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the other part of that. Can you decide on it
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: when guys aren't all the way healthy?
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: Well, how do you think it will Okay, a game
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: one opening gate day, who's the offensive line?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: And you're I want to hear what you two both think.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's gonna be what you said.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be the starting fact that they
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: went into camp with. I think Anton Harrison comes back,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: plays that right tackle, Walker Little is playing the left tackle,
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: and that's what you got.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: So I think, you know, we consider it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Say it's gonna be competition or anything like that, but
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: as long as everyone's healthy, it's gonna be the starting
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: fact that they went in the camp with.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Kind of feels that way to me too. I mean,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: there's if Anton Harrison, I think, had gone through that
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: scrimmage the other day and stayed healthy and performed well,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: maybe at left tackle. Maybe we see it in the
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: game for a driver or so against the Saints.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: What would you do and who would you play at
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: right tackle?
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Then when you would you flip them? Would you put
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Walker over there.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Right tackle? We've seen that experiment. Would you put much
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: better at left tackle?
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Bred Johnson did at right tackle?
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Eh McCarry maybe he's played tackle before. I think the
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: best way to do it is the way they have
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: it right now.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: I thought Cleveland would get pushed for his job and
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: maybe lose it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: But he's had a good summer.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: You know, he's come back more physical, and you talk
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: to people in the organization, they've been impressed with what
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: he's done this summer.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: He's been you know, and he looks like he's bigger. Remember,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: part of the whole scheme before was to be more
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: athletic and move.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: They want him bigger in this offense a little bit,
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: and he looks like he's gained a little weight and
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: got a little thicker.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Let's come back in a moment. Let's get some thoughts
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: on the defense and their performance against the Saints. Pete,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I know you'll have some comments.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're playing against guys that are gonna be bouncers
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: and bartenders in three weeks. I mean, what the hell,
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: no offense, I know, plenty of good ones, but you
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: don't go into the football figure you're gonna end up
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: being a bouncer at a bartender you think you could play.
• 40:00
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  Speaker 7: Definitely felt a better sense of urgency of the alignment,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: assignment getting lined up. The shifts and motions were clean.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: You know, I was pleased with the operation, especially coming
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: from what we were trying to emphasize last week.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: So I was pleased with that.
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: I definitely felt like, you know, we played well enough
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: to win. But you know, in this game, in this
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: in this especially in very season, you see some crazy
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: stuff and I'd like to be able to finish the
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: game the right way.
• 40:57
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• 41:00
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• 41:11
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• 41:15
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• 41:18
  Speaker 4: for the ad ex fan questions A lot to get
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: to the theme peat this week on Defense was Alignment
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: assignment communication, and it felt like they were aligned and
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: followed their assignments and communicated fairly well in this game.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Much better, much been no looking around before, you know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: none of that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: No, it was.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: It was much better, much crisper, and you know, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Liam said, you know the whole thing about you know
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: the mechanisms of it, and you know making it work.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I think both sides of the ball that came through.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: So whatever he did on Monday when he had them
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: have that practice to kind of work on that stuff,
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: it seemed to work.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: So that's progress.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: That's a good thing because lighting up in the right spot,
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: not blowing assignments, that's you know, when you talk about talent,
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: If you have all this talent in the world, you
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: blow those assignments, you're still not going to have success.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: So I think that was good last week to try
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: to dress that after what we saw last week in
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: that first preseason game.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense, it makes sense.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: And I think you saw a defense, you know, against
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: the Saints that maybe took a little personally of not
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: being able to generate a lot of interior pressure and
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: you saw a lot more blitzes and different looks. Now
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: from this coach camp defense than you saw the more
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: meat and potatoes against the Steelers.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: So I like what we're seeing here.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I get people have issues of defensive tackles dropped back
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: into coverage and everything, But listen, if you want to buttz, guys,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: if you're gonna butz, you know Lloyd in the regular season,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: whoever the linebacker is going to be. Sometimes you got
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: to drop people back right and it might be josh
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: Heinz Allen one time. Hopefully it's not too much, but
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: it might be a defensive tackle. That's just that's how
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: modern defenses operate. So I wasn't mad at you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: a defensive tackle dropping back if that means you're gonna
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: blitz somebody.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: Just I don't want to see josh heines Allen going back.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to see him going back a lot,
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: because he plays his best football going forward. You know
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: what I did like that I saw on Sunday was
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: where the linebacker takes a false step like he's going
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: back in the coverage. The fake blitz. You know, that's
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: become a big deal. They Jack Heider did it twice
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: and did it a nice job with it. Both times
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: of taking a step back, making them hesitate, you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: opens up a lane and then he comes in and
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: got a little pressure a couple of times.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: They're going to be creative. You know.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: You hear nothing but good things about the defensive coordinator,
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: you know Campanelli, and you're gonna see a lot of creativity.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, if you're not getting.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Great pressure on the interior, which we know they haven't,
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: you got to be creative. That you have to get creative,
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: and I think that's going to be the challenge for
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: this team.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Uh Pete. We can dig in this a little bit
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: in the second hour as well. But there were moments
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: where vinrel Miller was in with the first team defense
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and Devin Lloyd was not What do you make of that?
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: And you know he made a couple of plays in
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: the run game. He's a good run player. He you know,
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: the one pass on the sideline was on him. He
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: completed it on him and he was frustrated over it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: But he looked more active in the passing game. I'll
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: be honest with you, I think that posmission is okay.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: You know they're fine there, there's no here's what you
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: don't see from that position, even with Aluikam makes a
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: lot of tackles, and Lloyd's okay, pretty good in the
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: run game, and Miller's good in the right. Do you
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: see guys going to the backfield and slam guys for losses?
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Even last year, going back to last year, it doesn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: happen a lot. Jack Kaiser made one of those plays
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: on the short yardage play yesterday. He made a play
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: where he slammed in there and and made a tackle
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: for a loss and it kept they got the first down.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: It didn't look like.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: They did, but remember that play when he slammed in there,
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: made the play, So they have that position's okay. It's
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: not great, but it's okay. There's enough guys there that
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: can get by with it. But Miller's a thumper man.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: He can eat, he can get to get to the ball.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: The one thing about him last year was coverage. He
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: had coverage problems, and.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: I feel that's kind of the same thing with Lloyd
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: as well, where if you look look at all the
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: analytics and everything of a PFF like that there, he's
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: really I mean, he's highly toled, at least according to them.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: In the run game, but in coverage, you know, he
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: is lacking a little bit.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: So once again we talk about this defense of what
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: it's going to look like, giving different looks and everything
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: and keep offenses guessing, you know, like where where does
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Lloyd fit into this thing? And I think him playing
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: an extended period of reps like that's not by mistake,
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: Like I think that was a message of hit, you know,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: saying to him like, hey man, you have to step
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: it up a little bit if you want to be
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: the full fledged starter.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: We I mean, when PFF loves Devin Lloyd, their their
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: numbers are are far greater than that thing.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: What's that Madden does too? Like the video game Madden
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: loves Lloyd as well.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: I don't I don't understand it because you know, in
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: Jacksonville they don't even give a fifth year option.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: He has to lose a bunch of weight to get,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: you know, to stay on the field.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: And and here we have ratings by the analytics, film
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: launchers and mad to.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Have him being like top ten linebacker. Seriously, he's right.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I think if I'm not in PFF, he's right as
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: one of the top ten linebackers. That's ridiculous. He hasn't
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: played to clearly to the expectations. So it's a big
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: year for him.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: But the fact that they're rotating guys in now that's
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: not a good look.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: One note here, Tony Boselli was the one that always
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: hated PFF grade, and now Pete has kind of crossed
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: the Thresholder you're always a PFF lover, Pete.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: No, I was never a PFF.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: I used this.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: I just use it as a mechanism to get the
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: SELLI going. I had my own med I had a
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: method to my madness. I know he hated it and
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: then we get him gown, but you know he's not wrong.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: Though you watch the film, you can come up with
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: an idea whose grade is pretty good. You don't need
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: to have a coach in grade in the film saying
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: plus or mine. You know, overall picture, you don't know
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: the responsibilities.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: On a play.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: That's true. Hey, we're gonna come.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Back defensive line. Can you watch a tape and tell
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the responsibilities of a defensive lineman on?
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: And this is the thing you got some guys drop
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: back into coverage. I remember Joe Collen coming into the
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: locker room one time and ripping up the PFF report
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: because he said it was and I can't repeat what
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: he said, but he had some choice words.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Back in a moment. Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: presented by Jet Home Loans. But I thought that they responded.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: The team responded in the right way, you know, for
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: the majority of the majority of the game in terms
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: of coming out, starting fast, defensively, I thought they played
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: really well throughout, you know, until obviously the end do
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: you you know, put him in a tough spot there,
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: and then you know, I was pleased with the way
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: that we ran the football early on with the guys,
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: you know, with the guys that you know, we expect
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: obviously to be contributing at a high level for us consistently,
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: and I thought Trevor, you know, minus obviously the fumble
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: was pretty sharp.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen after the game in New Orleans seventeen to
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: seventeen tie yesterday, Welcome back. It's our two of Jaguars
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. Before the game,
• 48:24
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• 48:30
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• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Shadwick with Austin Lane from the Hyundai Studios, the Miller
• 48:33
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• 48:37
  Speaker 4: seventeen to seventeen. The Jags offense played two drives of
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: fumble and a touchdown. The Jags defense had their act
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: together they forced two punts. The Jags make a trade,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: sending Luke Fortner to the Saints for defensive tackle and
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: now position battle time headed to Miami for preseason Week three.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Questions on the O line, linebacker, position, safety, running back.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: Lots to determine this week. THEO practice against the Dolphins Thursday,
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: the game Saturday night at seven o'clock, and in about
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: fifteen minutes or so, we will keep it real and
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: cut the roster. Pete, are you with us? I see you.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: We don't hear you, new button. Something happened over there.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. Hey yourself, Pete, what in
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: the world.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't I don't know what happened. Hey. By the way,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take my first little shot at the
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: head coach.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Oh boy, Okay, this is only the second show of
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: the season and you're already going in on Liam.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: This is I'm not going in on because I think
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: he's done a really good job so far. But I'm
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: going to go into my nitpicky playbook. Oh, it got
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: a first down with three something less in the game.
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: Do you remember it was a completion on the roll
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: out to the right and he threw it back across
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: the field.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I can't remember who caught it. It was for about
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: twelve fourteen yards or something. Okay, yeah, and okay, give
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: me that scenario. JP. You got the book right now,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: get it right here.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: So this is four point thirty two to go. They
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: got the football at their own thirty four.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: But on third down he hit a tight end.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: It was a third and fourteen singer for eight yards.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: So when they got there they got a thirst That
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: was on the bubbles screen. I'm talking about the one.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: There was a play before where Walford went was flushed
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: to the right and threw back into the into the
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: crowd and it was caught by somebody.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: For John Bowman. Yeah, so that was second and seventh.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: It was the second play of the drive, three to
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: fifty one to go. Wolford passed short right to Bowman
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: to the forty seven for ten yards and a first down.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, So that do you take the play clock down
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: gives you the three minutes. What did he do in
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: first down?
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Next play passing complete short right to Bravey?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Well, what are you doing?
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: You run the ball, either make them use of time
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: out or or you run the clock because at the.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: End of the game, clearly that mattered, and you don't
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: can talk.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: You can talk all you want about preseason games and
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: everything else, but situationally.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: You gotta be ready for that too. Why would you
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: throw the ball in that scenario. There's no reason at.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: All, because you wanted to see more from his backup
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: backup quarter right.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Will be so valuable.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: I just think you want to see what he's got. Man,
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: Like you keep a practice squall, everybody can turn around
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: a hand it off.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: Pete Dawston, you made the point about not wanting ties
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: because you hate ties.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Well, you clearly play the game to win.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: So if you're playing the game to win and you're
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: a head coach in that situation, don't you have to
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: play it like it's a real situation too.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, Pete, because I've seen teams
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: go for two point conversions when they shouldn't, Like I
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: think coach has handled the preseason differently, and I think
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: it's more about evaluating the back end of the talent
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: that it is actually maybe even winning a football game.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I get it in the.
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: Second third quarter, but in that scenario, you turn it. Okay,
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: you can evaluate the back end. Running back turn in
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: hand off the.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Running backs a pretty money. I think they handed him
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: off to him the next play and he lost four yards.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: Okay, But but if he handed off to him on
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: first down you get two or three, then you gotta
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: you got it. They got to use the time out,
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: so literally the time mattered.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Pete the opening drive, first play, they handed it to
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Jackson three yard, game clock runs down and then the
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: pass short right for a first time but again then.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: JP, Okay, okay, if that's a if that's a regular
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: season game in that exact same scenario, are you is
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: it criticizing him for.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Throwing the ball in that scenario, I'm I'm I'm demanding
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: that you run the football. I think that probably leaves
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: the show.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: So situationally it was the wrong decision. You would agree
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: From a time perspective, probably, sure, Okay, the.
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: First time head coach, you should be losing using the
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: preseason to work on your own evaluation.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Maybe he's so far ahead of you, Pete, that he's
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: already thought about all this and it's like, you know what,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: let's get the guy some passing.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Round or or did somebody change the play?
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Ooh, maybe there was an audible right. Maybe maybe he's like,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna take my chance right here.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: In fairness to him, the guy was wide open and
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: Walford threw a crappy ball, so it should have been
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: a completion, but it wasn't. And that's the risk when
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: you do it that scenario. And it saved the time
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: and they went down the field scordon because Slaughter had
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: a terrible little sequence of plays.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: But and and so they was it was not okay.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: So that's I'm being nitpickyus.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: I always do situationally, look at the game and look
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: at how it would play out. And in that scenario,
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: you run the ball, make him use the time out
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: because they only had one time out. If I'm not mistaken,
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: in that scenario, they used it in that drive.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: No, no, they had three going into the drive.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I mean on the by the time they got the
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: ball back, they had won.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Correct, but they didn't use what they didn't have to
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: use one after that incomplete pass?
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Did they know they did not? The clock shocks. You
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: are really nidpicky today, Pete, that you are.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm a situational junkie, you know how I
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: am JP. I've always been there.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Gave it, gave them an opening, the Saints to come
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: back and tie the game.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: Correct, correct, don't give them any and Austin, they could
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: have worked on the backup running back.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: No, no, I get you.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: And now that Saints will take that momentum that they
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: gained from tying the game and probably taking the Super Bowl. Pete,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: as far as okay, that's another part of this. Who's
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: the Saints quarterback?
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: It will be now, Pete.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Rattler.
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: Rattler is going to think, so, yeah, that was a
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: bad interception he through, But I think that the receiver
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: didn't kind of get across the face on that.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: But I don't, I don't. Chuck didn't look very good
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Crazy that Shuck is a week older than Trevor Lawrence.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you would think a guy had been around and
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: played so much football, he would have been that much better,
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: you know, calmer, but he's not.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: You know, he seemed a little hirky, jerky like when
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: he felt when he saw a winger coming out I
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: him and he fell backward.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, I don't know, you know, that was like, yeah,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: those those lights got kind of bright for him. I
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: feel like weird.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: You know what He's been at like seventy two spots,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: and I saw an interview with him once where he
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: made an excuse for every single one of them. I don't,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: I don't ever want to hear that, you know what
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: At Oregon, I was supposed to be a starter, you know,
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: and then they brought in Anthony Brown and he took
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: the job, and they wanted him to be a starter.
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: So I transferred. I went to Texas Tech. And when
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: I went to Texas Tech, I got hurt. Nobody knew that,
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: but I got hurt. You know, those kind of things
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: along the way.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't want to hear that.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: How are you? In general? Though, with like guys who
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: move around. It's just the name of the game now
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: in college football. If you're going to draft somebody, you're
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: going to have to deal with somebody.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: He's been at it. He's been moving around before they
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: even had to moving around.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: Attitude man, it should be named Show probably calls him
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: Shot Simon's real name.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Probably pretty because you're moving around for If.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: You're moving around for an nil check, that's a whole
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: other story. Come on, I'm doing a lot of moving.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Come on, he's moving all the time.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: I'm moving every other Tuesday. If you give me an nil.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Check, I love that. We're gonna keep the keep it real,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: coming up shortly and cut the roster probably in about
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: eight minutes or so.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Keep it real, but we're diagnosing third quarter, fourth quarter
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: coaching decisions in a preseason game. He is as real
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: as a cas That's what I'm saying.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: He's never been a he's never been a situational coach.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: So why not you use it for your advantage? Work
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: on yourself. Don't they have the analytics guys.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: On the feet. I got analytics people coming out of
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: their ears over here.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: Okay, so there's not one analytics guy in the world
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: that would tell you to throw the ball in that scenario.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Nobody.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: And if they do, yeah, if they do, you know
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: you know, well, first off, you know how I feel
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: about analytics, they're not all the same.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Every game is not the same, correct. You know, if
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: you're playing a forty five to forty three game, it
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: isn't the same as when it's six three, go for it,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: go for it, go for it.
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: Well, it's forty five to forty three, Okay, you might
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: go for it. If it's sixty three, you're not going
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: for It's a different game. And like I always tell
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: Tony Kahan, when they come up with fourth and an
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: inch evaluations instead of just inside, you know, there's different
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: different levels of that. They don't measure them buy inches
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: on the stat sheet.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: In case anybody's wondering, it's good.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: We weren't wondering.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: We knew. No.
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: But you know, but when they say, okay on fourth
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: and one, every time they get x amount of first
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: downs in this scenario, okay, is it fourth and an
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: inch or is it fourth in just inside the other yard?
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Not the same play?
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, And I agree with you, Pete. Like
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: when it comes to analytics, I'm the same way. I'm
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: definitely old school in my line of thinking when it
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: comes to the whole analytical thing, just because there's a
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: lot of variables that you don't take into account for
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: right and momentum, I think is a big thing in
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: a football game, and that doesn't really get accounted in
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: terms of analytics. I think it's it's crazy that you
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: can just go out a piece of paper or put
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: in a calculator, whatever you want to do, be a
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: nerd about it, and go, Okay, we should do this
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: here because you know, because well, yeah, because I went
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: to MIT, so I know what I'm talking about, you.
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: Know, But yeah, Austin, like if it's fourth and one
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: in a situation where the game is tight and you're
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: on your own forty five and all the fourth and
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: one data says to go for it. In that scenario,
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: you know, Okay, say you don't have a great run
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: blocking off asive line, but the other teams.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Do and the data is better for them, but it's
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: worse for you know. How do you how do you
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: balance all that? And you have to be smart about it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: That's where coaching instincts come into play, which is why
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: I wanted Liam going to use.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: In this scenario.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Our mister Chovy's food option for the evening for our
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: production staff tonight, we had some wings, chubby style wings.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Had did you get into them.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't get to the wings I had. I had
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  Speaker 4: a slice of a chicken case adea.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, because if you had the wings with that new beard,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: you might have had some of that left over here.
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  Speaker 3: It would have been right next to the gray there.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Peter, are you growup? Beard yourself? Hered? What are
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: We do this for the show. It was the last
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: time you grew a beer.
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  Speaker 3: Never. I don't think I could. Never, I don't even
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: think I can. I wouldn't want a beard, no offense
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: to YouTube. It's it's I mean a lot of stuff.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: It would cover up a lot of your you know, slights, Pete.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, look at your face.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: We look at that face. You're you're clearly covering it
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: up for a reason.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, at least I came around, did it.
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  Speaker 3: Austin? I don't think I've ever seen you without the beer.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you could probably go on Google and check
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  Speaker 5: out some college photos, Pete. But you're not missing much.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Man. Let me tell you. I think I look much
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: better with the beard.
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  Speaker 3: And JP, what's your excuse?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: I was lazy for about a month during the summer,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: and I decided I liked it, and then I trimmed
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: it up and kept it. Hing's too much.
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  Speaker 3: Work as a fellow bald man.
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  Speaker 6: You know what, whenever a ball guy grows a beard,
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  Speaker 6: I think he's trying to get people to look away
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: from the top of his head to.
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  Speaker 4: The help I can get. Pete. I'll grow up wherever
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: I can, because there's certain places, like a.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: Distraction from your your it's gone, So let's grow some
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: here where I can grow something, because I can't grow
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: it up here anymore.
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  Speaker 4: No doubt about that. There's no fight in that, Like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: there's no circle in the wagons anymore. Like it is
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: all over. It's done, it's done.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: It's done. Mind when yours is gone. Austin still has
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: a full talk to me in ten years.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be juicing or anything that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to trick it out or do all
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: these medicines.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I always to say is, could you imagine, like, okay,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: like this is new for you in the summer. But
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: like one summer I took off and I got like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: hair plugs or something. I came back into the off
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: and they said, everybody, go, well, Pete's got fake hair.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: Now it's worse than if you don't have anybody.
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  Speaker 5: Murmur about it, to get a hair transport, brand new
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: city where nobody knows you, you're talking about like.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on the air.
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  Speaker 6: All of a sudden, I got new he's like one
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  Speaker 6: of the frat boys in Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, when I was a kid and I
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: had the hair, Hey, let's come back.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to cut the roster. This is one of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: our favorite exercises. I think Pete could have cut it
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  Speaker 4: like two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: You could cut it to And by the way, you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: heard Liam Kohen right away, what did he say, like
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  Speaker 3: other than three players, he knows what he's doing. Basically,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: we can all cut the roster. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: much of a problem. By the way, just for pictures,
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  Speaker 3: that's when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 4: Look at the hair. Look at that flow right there.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: You just had that close by your desk. All of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: a sudden, Yeah wow, I.
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  Speaker 3: Had a thinkful of pictures in here. That was in
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: my dad's house.
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  Speaker 4: But I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah now, but I had a lot of hair. I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: had hair like that until I was in my thirties
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  Speaker 3: and then it went jp, you never had hair.
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  Speaker 4: We'll come back and to get into this a little
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  Speaker 4: bit later. Pete, we gotta get a.
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  Speaker 3: Break because you're only life thirty five.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, present of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: by mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: JP Shadwick, Austin Lane, Pete Prisco after a Jaguars tie
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: preseason Week two, seventeen seventeen. This week the Jaguars head
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: to Miami. They'll work out in Davy against the Dolphins
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: on Thursday and then play at hard Rock Stadium in
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Miami Gardens on Saturday night, seven o'clock kickoff time. And
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the final preseason game. Liam Cohen
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: expected this week with the media tomorrow after practice we'll
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: get an update. Maybe they don't have to, but maybe
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: an update on some of these injuries and maybe what
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: they're thinking going into the matchup and the practice this
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: week against the Miami Dolphins. It is time now for
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: keeping it real, presented by nobody.
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  Speaker 3: Can we just put this message out there?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, years ago, I used to put together a list
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: when I was at the cover of the team in
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: the paper of who I thought would get cut and
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: who might make the team, and one day, a certain
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: player called me over and he said, hey, Pete, don't
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: put my name in the paper as a guy who
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: might get cut, because I don't want the team listening
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  Speaker 6: to you.
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  Speaker 3: And I went to him and I said, you can't
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  Speaker 3: be serious.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: And I said, I have been no bearing on it whatsoever.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just speculating on who I think will or will
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  Speaker 6: not make the team.
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  Speaker 3: But that's happen. He thought, I put a name in
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: the paper and the team would listen to me.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder, though, we'll we'll besell you in those guys
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  Speaker 4: rabbit Ears as we call him sometimes. Now would he
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: listen to this and change his mind because of you?
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  Speaker 3: Rabbit Ears? Isn't making the decisions fair, right son?
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  Speaker 6: He might go in there like he used to try
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  Speaker 6: and bull rush us on here JP and try and
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  Speaker 6: bull rushing it.
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  Speaker 3: I call him, it's time we need to cut this guy.
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  Speaker 3: I think he would do that.
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  Speaker 4: You sound just like him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you get remember how it used to get so
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: worked out. I mean, yeah, that's why.
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  Speaker 4: We had to stop taking phone calls Austin because he
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: used to Oh gosh, he was at It was bad
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  Speaker 4: just in terms of going through the fans.
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  Speaker 3: Then and oh yeah, oh, he alienated the fans. He
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: will never admit that, but he's embarrassing.
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  Speaker 4: Is he on Twitter or not?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Probably not? Then if he's really okay, I think he's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: still on there, all right? Is he thriving on there?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: Or is he having some issues? Is trying to clap
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: back up people?
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  Speaker 4: Okay? So it's okay, okay, good, probably for the best.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so let's let's cut the team.
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  Speaker 4: All right, We're gonna start on an offense.
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, there's four quarterbacks now, Trevor Lawrence gonna make it. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: Nick Mullins, let me.
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  Speaker 3: Say something about the backup quarterback. That's a problem, is it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Mullens played pretty good yesterday, right, did he? I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: mean he was efficient.
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  Speaker 6: You don't you think you can get five if you
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: had to play five games with Nick Mullens?
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  Speaker 3: Okay with that? No, no, no, they like him.
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  Speaker 6: He's good in the room, he's good with the offense.
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  Speaker 6: He understands it. But I think that's a problem on
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: this team.
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  Speaker 4: But all right, we can figure out the problem later.
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  Speaker 4: Like is he making the team?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's making the team.
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  Speaker 4: On the team. John Wolford, are you gonna keep three?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna keep three. I think practice squad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: So Wolfirs's practice. What how about head again? The guy
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  Speaker 4: they got the rookie, see ya, he's out. I mean
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  Speaker 4: if he s he's gonna be practice squad, he's not
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: gonna make the finals. So one of those two.
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  Speaker 3: Guys we'll keep too for this exercise. We'll keep two quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 3: right all right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, for sure? Five running backs in the room, E
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  Speaker 4: T and Bigsby, Twoton, Alan Jackson?
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  Speaker 3: Can I pedal one.
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  Speaker 4: Again? Can one around? Do whatever you want? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you're cutting your own team.
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  Speaker 3: If we're not going to trade it. Look, I think
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  Speaker 3: I said it last week. I still stand by I
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  Speaker 3: think Tooton should be the starting running back. I think
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  Speaker 3: he gives them something that the other ones don't.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, he's making it.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Bigsby, ETN and Allen. And then you cut Jackson
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  Speaker 6: and then put Jackson on the on a practice squad.
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  Speaker 6: And if you decide to trade one of the veterans,
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  Speaker 6: if you got somebody who wowed you, like for example,
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  Speaker 6: if somebody offered you a starting our backup defensive tackle
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  Speaker 6: that have production or potential for Travis etn when you
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  Speaker 6: make that deal.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it depends who this backup is. But if
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: you can play a three technique and provide me a
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: decent interior pass rush, then yeah, I think I would
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  Speaker 5: cease to consider that trade.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so that's right now.
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  Speaker 6: If we're going to cut this for the section without
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  Speaker 6: trading anybody or make any deal, I keep the four
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  Speaker 6: top guys.
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  Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, and I'm the same way too. Then Jackson's off.
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  Speaker 4: All right. Twelve wide receivers where it gets a little interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Jommy Brown, Brian Thomas Junior, Eli Pankle, Parker Washington, Travis Hunter,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Dorian Singer, Chandler, ray Boy, Cam Camper, Josh Cephas, Austin Trammel,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Trent and Irwin, Darius Lassiter. Let's start with that's the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: fun numbers too.
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  Speaker 3: So we got two quarterbacks and four running backs. Okay, yes,
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  Speaker 3: all right? Six So wide receivers you keep? The first
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  Speaker 3: four are definite.
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  Speaker 4: Brown, Brian Thomas, Junior, Parker, Washington, Travis.
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  Speaker 3: Hunter, Correct, those are definite.
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  Speaker 4: I get he's a training camp, Darling, but I do
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: like Cephis a lot.
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  Speaker 3: You just took up about a half hour when he
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: took the Jets sweep.
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  Speaker 4: Is he doing much on the special teams because they're
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: not going to be five wide much.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not so sure number five or number six is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: on somebody else's roster right now.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Oh oh oh interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's for this exercise, let's keep five and six.
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  Speaker 3: Who we keeping?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm probably keeping Cefast because he has done
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: some offensive things. I just don't know enough about his
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: special team's prowess. Yeah, neither Irwin has done some things
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: too well. Yeah, Trent Irwin's probably more of the special
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: teams guy too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of returns.
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  Speaker 6: But what about coverage, because you need a guy that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: could cover too, Tim Joe Tim Jones got kept all
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: the time because he could do that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I've been here in Chandler, Brave Boy's name a little bit,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: the rookie from Elon.
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  Speaker 3: I still think five or six is still on somebody
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: else's roster. That's my belief. But for this exercise, we'll
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: keep let's keep six. You got to keep six.
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  Speaker 4: We're keeping six, all right, keeping six? Moving on to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: tight ends?
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  Speaker 3: Which two? What are the other two we're keeping?
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  Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna keep Cephas and Irwin.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 4: But you also got Austin Trammell too, fourth year player.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I keep travel ahead of Irwin? Yeah,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: I think I think he's a better receiver.
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  Speaker 4: Cool, all right, tight ends. There are seven on the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: roster at the moment, but they're not going to keep seven.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: I know Britain Strange is gonna make it.
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  Speaker 3: That's one.
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  Speaker 4: I think you go three here. I think you go
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Strange long and month Hunter long, and then I go
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Johnny Mont. Johnny Mont.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, those those three, that's three.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, makes sense to me. That's three. Okay. So we're
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: at nine fours thirteen fifteen, and we haven't got to
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: the offensive line yet. Okay, so who are are you
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: keeping ten? With this group?
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  Speaker 3: I would keep ten, particularly with guys thinged up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. So let's let's uh.
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  Speaker 6: You got the five starters that we projected. We can
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: read them again for the audience. Little Cleveland, Hainsey, but
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: Carry and Harrison, Yes, okay. Then Mannheim is for sure,
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  Speaker 6: Milam's for sure. That's seven. Now, Udoka that's eight, Fred
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  Speaker 6: Johnson nine. He's only on a one year deal. You
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: could send him pack and it not cost you anything.
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  Speaker 6: With Van when's Van Lana's first?
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  Speaker 4: All right, he hasn't practiced, he's come out. Be the question.
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  Speaker 4: I guess he do you put him on the short
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: term and bring him back so then you would keep
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: somebody else.
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  Speaker 6: So that's that gets us to night. If we capt
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  Speaker 6: Fred Johnson, Yeah, there's not Is there a tenth? There's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: not a tenth?
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  Speaker 4: Not really. You might just keep nine for now and
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  Speaker 4: then make.
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  Speaker 3: It Foster has a been Foster hasn't been very good.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you make it ten when if Van Lamon's healthy
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  Speaker 4: at some point?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nine now, kay, that's nine.
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  Speaker 4: All right, that's the twelve plus six is eighteen. That's
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: four is twenty two plus two is what did I say?
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  Speaker 4: Twenty four?
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  Speaker 6: There will be one more offensive guy. I think they'll
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: keep twenty five. You count the you count the kickers
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: twenty six. You know the punter counts on the other side.
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  Speaker 4: So are you counting Travis Hunter as a receiver only
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: they're both ways?
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  Speaker 3: No, we'll count them as the unicorn.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: Okay, one spot reserve for the unicorn?
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  Speaker 5: Got it?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: What they what they called Nard Robinson the offensive? Remember that?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: Well? But Travis Hunerd told me, remember one was here.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: He said, he's the unicorn self appointed. All right, let's
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: do defense quickly here before we get to another break
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: here coming up. How many defensive lineman are you keeping? Guys, Austin,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: what do you normally keep?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, this one's tricky, you could make it. You
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: could justify eight. I almost want to go nine here,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: especially with the guy that you just traded for. Possibly
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: you could go down.
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  Speaker 3: How do you count? How do you count? Like the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: edge you got like guard deck is he alignment or
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: a linebacker?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: Linebackers a linebacker?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so let's go to so Walker the ends are
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: Walker Heinz Allen.
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  Speaker 3: O smoot, smoot. It's four okay for now, and we
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: got inside.
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  Speaker 6: You got Armstead if he ever returns, uh, Mason Smith,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: Hamilton Hounders, you don't trade for him.
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  Speaker 3: If you're not going to keep him. Then it comes
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: down to.
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  Speaker 4: Tyler.
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  Speaker 5: Lisa's considered deep. I mean he's more of an end
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: I guess, but you gotta keeps already list Sorry sorry, Lacy,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: or like Jordan Jefferson nose tackle.
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  Speaker 6: Or or the guy that just signed the big kid
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: from that was with the with the bills before was
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: Austin Johnson Johnson for big size, I mean he's a
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: bigger guy. M And then is there a backup end
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: for a fifth end?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: Miles Cole?
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  Speaker 8: He wow, coaches, I think guard deck can play end
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: in some scenarios too.
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  Speaker 3: He can put his hand on the ground. He's done
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: it before. All right, So that's there will be nine.
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  Speaker 3: One more defensive tackle maybe, Well.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: Then are you gonna count Saunders though?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. Okay, we got five defensive tackles. We
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: don't have a defensive end because you get to figure
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: one of those defensive tackles Jefferson, Lacey or j Johnson
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: might be on the team. Yeah, all right's particularly with
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: the injuries.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Let's pick Austin Johnson for now tenth year veteran, just
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: for this argument. That's nine. Okay, linebackers. Foyer is making it.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Vin trel Is gonna make it. Dennis gard That is
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: gonna make it, Devin Lloyd, jack Ky make it.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Let's say this Abdul has been better?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Do you making it?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, he's making it.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: Guard Deak all right, that's six right now, ka Kaiser, Yes, No,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Chad Mumma on this list right now?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: No, he's gone.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, Brandon intriguing as hell is call yeah number fifty.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: That kid makes plays. I mean you could make a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: decision to keep in because I think he's got some talent.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: How many arena can you watch it?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: You watch the tape he makes? He gets after it.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: He's tough. I don't know how good he isn't covers,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: but he gets after it.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: We're at six right now without him? Could you practice
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: squad him you think? Or is there enough film out
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: there where another team is gonna want him?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: No, you probably practice squad him.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well we'll take six linebacks nine six is fifteen.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: As we go to the defensive backfield.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Well, by the way, some of those guys got to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: be special teams players. So which one is it going
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: to be?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Mm?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: Who can run?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Because guard Deck and Abdullah are special teams guys, right.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Gard Deck is yes, yeah, coming off, coming off coming
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: off that maybe not immediately, but yes.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: But he's coming off in ACYL.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: You don't know he's going to be his second a
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: cl injury.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know how he's gonna be true.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: Let's go to the defensive backs. Corners who are keeping.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: Austin got Kaiser will be a good special teams player.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kaiser's that guy that makes sense. Tyson Campbell's making it, yep.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis, Jordan's definite. And we've already counted Hunter, so
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: we're not counting him here.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: But what's monterak Brown's injury status?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, gonna be out all camp is what we were.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: Told because he was running with the first team at
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: one point he was he was well, he's healthy, he
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: makes it.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you want to count him here.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: We're counting him's count him?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's four right, that's four or five, it's four corners. Well,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: but we're already counted Hunter on the other side.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: Okay, but well, okay, but he's one of the corners.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: But so we need one more corner because when he's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: not playing.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: Taking braswell, DeAndre Prince.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: Ransaw, if he's healthy, Ransaw is making the team no
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: matter what.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but how do you count I'm counting him safety.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: I mean I think they may safety.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, how about the new guy that just signed Lovely
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: you had to pick the other night, No, no, not
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: making it all right? I would say take Christian braswell
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: that's just me, all right.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: So that's six corners that we're keeping braswell. Right, Wait,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: we got Campbell, Lewis Jones, Brown Braswell. Who's the six hunter?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: But okaytch okay.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: And by the way, the fifth corner might be on
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: somebody else's roster too, gotcha.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: All right, safeties, this is where he is special teams.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: By the way, Murray Winger ran ransaw.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Three.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: I think Antonio Johnson's much better than he's been. I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: think he stays.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: That's four. I think Savage stays as well. You think.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: About that one, you don't think so it makes a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: lot of money, and.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: I mean he's he's gonna be. I don't think he's
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: really a special teams guy either, But I just think.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: I would put him on the market and tell any
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: team that needs a safety, you give me something your return,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: you can have them.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: You know who's megan is Raywan Lane? Yeah, that's five.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: And he counts as special teams gone, then you got
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: it comes down to Thomas or Savage, and Thomas plays
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: special teams and Savage does it right.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much is Savage playing special teams.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: I don't recall him see him a lot.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: No, Thomas does Thomas dos yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: if Savage is a backup s Pete, what's his contract?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Look up his number. There's no conceivent way you could
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: keep him as a backup unless there's unless they have to,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: and I don't think they do.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: You never know what the contract trump, Bob, he probably
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: locked in for the next decade.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as ownership rights. You don't think the vers of
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: Tony though Savage Pete can give him the dge here.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: I don't. I think when he plays nickel corner he's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: a spinning top. I don't, I won't. I think that
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: was a mistake on their part.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: Let's see dead cap. This year's ten million for him.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: What's his cap number?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Four point four four point six cap hit?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: So they take a hit on it by getting rid
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he might.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: I mean what's he making? What's he making for? What's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: his salary for the year?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: His salary is what's an average of what let's see
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: here three years, twenty one million, so seven point two average?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's his actually base salary?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: Two point two?
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I keep him?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: Man, we sure about Devin Lloyd by the way.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Top ten linebacker in the NFL says the PFF.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: It's a new group Pete.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but okay, in that scenario, if he doesn't make it,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: if you cut him, which I don't think they're gone
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: to cut him, but if you cut him, that means
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: you keep the kid from uh from wake Forest Colmbs.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, he makes it, then, Okay, watch your.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: Three linebackers are Miller, Alua, Khan, and Kaiser will be
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: the top three.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're not wrong.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: It was a statement for how long he was in right, Like,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: if you're a starting linebacker, you should have been out
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: in after two or three series, And he was out
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: there for predominantly the entire game.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: So that doesn't that he also got rotated out with
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: the ones.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that does speak a little bit. But so
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: we've cut the roster. There it is. It's done deal.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're cutting Lloyd. I don't anybody want
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd for a defensive tackle.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: I bet they do. Yeah, let's come, oh yeah, maybe
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: backup quarterback.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Oh. I mean, if they got to play with Nick Mallins,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: you might as well pun on the season. That's all
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. Wow.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, do you think he's any team in the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: league can say that like with a backup? Most teams, yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Most teams, but some teams actually have decent backups. Do
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: you think the is Nick Mullins any better than Mac Jones? Yes?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: Not much better. Did you like what you saw from
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: Nick Mallins yesterday?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: I think the arm leaves you less than be desired.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: Honestly, it's like the only but once again, and like,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: this is the thing, if we're talking about backup quarterbacks,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: how many teams out there are confident with if their
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: backup quarterback goes out halfway through the season, they're going
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: to make a playoff run, right right?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: Like I understand we.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: Always have the Nick Foles experience in Philly, but that's
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: an anomaly, right.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: So I agree with you. I agree with that they're
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: Look okay, let's say look at Cleveland right now. Okay, Okay,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: give you example, Indianapolis. Would you rather have Daniel Joe
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: if Richardson stars? Who is Daniel Jones a better backup
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: to have than than than Nick Mallins?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: Sure, I absolutely gree with that. I think Jameis Winston
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: would would be a better backup, right like I mean that. Yeah,
• 1:22:20
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  Speaker 4: Nick Pope Joy. Will Travis Hunter be okay for the
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  Speaker 4: regular season? I think, yes, I'm with you. I think
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna be okay.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: But the silver lining is is that he shows that
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: he's human as well. Right, So we're talking about he's
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: gonna play the whole game offense and defense. Maybe let's
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  Speaker 5: take our times here a little bit. Let let's make
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  Speaker 5: sure that he's one hundred percent and ease him into
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: his pro career. Let's not throw him to the Wolves
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  Speaker 5: right away. One hundred percent of offense, one hundred percent
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: on defense.
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  Speaker 3: What was the injury?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: He said, upper body? I think.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: Fight.
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  Speaker 4: I think pete. It happened during if I and I'm
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: just speculating here a little bit, during the scrimmage. It
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: kind of fell on a deep pass that wasn't connected
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  Speaker 4: and like kind of fell weird on his side. It's
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  Speaker 4: I think that's probably what it was. That's the only
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  Speaker 4: thing that game.
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  Speaker 3: Does he play on Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: If he's playing in a regular season game, probably Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would think he's gonna play if it's a regular
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: season yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Look, because like I said, everywhere I go, people ask
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: about Travis Hunter and they say, oh, I don't know.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: Even players I've talked to, I don't know if he's
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: big enough to handle that endurance wise, he can handle it.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: The question becomes is he big enough physically to handle it?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: And I'm not so sure he's not. But again, when
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: you get injured in training camp, that's never a good
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: thing for a guys going to play both ways.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: And he had some injuries in college as well. He
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: had the shoulder. What do you have like an internally
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: lack of liver some lacerated liver or kidney something. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's a chip shot though thin Colorado State. That was
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: it was yeah, yeah, it was. Next question at nine
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  Speaker 4: or four Colby, what's your his concerns with this defense?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: And why?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: Hmm? Pete middle of the defense? Can they can they
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: stop the run?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: Can they can they stop the run consistently enough and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: get interior pressure? Like Austin mentioned before, somebody's got to
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: be able to generate some pressure from the interior to
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 6: help those edge guys, and they didn't do a very
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: good job of that last year. Somebody's got to be
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: better again. I keep counting on Mason Smith. I guess
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: he's working almost on the side now to the point
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: where he could be back this week.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: Is that true, JP?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: I don't might. I mean, it feels like that's the
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: next step. He's got to do something right before the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: season goes.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: He's got to I would like to see him work
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: this week against the Dolphins.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean for me, it's it's the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: same thing as Pete mentioned. I've been saying this for
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: the past couple of weeks now, until I see Mason Smith,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: until I see Eric Armstead, it's gonna be the interier
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: that defense, simple as that. And unless you need me
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: to go eat like all the wings in the in
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: the studio out there, to try to put some weight
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: on to come back and make a comeback career here,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: like you're gonna have to address it.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: To lose weight right now, you're trying to cut weight.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: I am trying to lose weight right now. Yeah, but
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, hey, the team comes first. I don't see
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: the UFC giving me all these cool shirts and everything
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: like that. You got another fight coming up, there's nothing
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: on the paper right now. Have to get a little
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: surgery quick on my knee. Nothing major. It's going to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: be like six to eight weeks. I'll be out, and
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: then the goal is that I'm kind of breaking news
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: right now. I haven't announced it yet, but but I
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: might be dropping down to two hundred and six pounds
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: and fight out light. Have youweight for my next one.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: I'm about two thirty right now. Wow, cut the beard,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: you know, shaved the dreads off a little bit, which
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: would be good to go.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Are you know the UFC is now on going on
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: Paramount Plus, it's going on CBS. Yeah.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure whe they're getting all their money from
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: be because they just paid south Park like a billion
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: dollars and now they're paying the UFC like seven billion.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen my contracts up. I mean the seven
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: billion looks good.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: I hope the fighters see some of it, because it's
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: not like the NFL where we're putting the pie. You know,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: the UFC, they have a majority of the pie, and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: then you know, we we we get some some scrap
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: three once in a while.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: Let's get a couple more questions in before we call
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: it here at d t W twenty eight eighty two.
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  Speaker 4: By the end of the season, Britain Strange will be
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: viewed as a top five tight end of the league.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: From what have you seen from him? And do you
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: feel like this is possible?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: Pete, I don't think he's getting the top five, but
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: he'll be in the top ten. I mean top five.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: You're talking about Kittle, You.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: Know Trey McBride, Howard McBride.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, he's not He's not getting in
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: the top one, but he can get into the top ten.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: I think he's improved a lot too, by the way.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: I think he might be now if he's asked me
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: to name tight ends that do both and rank him
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: in the top five, he might be.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: In that by the end of the year. Because there
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: are a lot of those guys. They're not some of
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: those guys are great bloggers.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: Who's the best, Who's the best of both? Kittle? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: I mean he's that makes him the best tight end
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: of the league because he's a he blocks like a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: a tackle, and he's he's good in the passing game.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: Kittle the best one.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: And like I get, we say top five will always
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: get like, you know, the fantasy relevsy, like who's gonna
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: be the fantasy football tight end? And I don't think
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: Breton Strange can be a top five in terms of
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  Speaker 5: fantasy purposes. But if you want to combine the the
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  Speaker 5: you know, the blocking and the run game and the receiving, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think top even, like top seven could be could
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  Speaker 5: be doable.
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  Speaker 3: From him. What do you think? What do you think
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  Speaker 3: his numbers are?
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  Speaker 6: What do you think he's That's what you gotta ask
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  Speaker 6: yourself is numbers.
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  Speaker 3: How many catches?
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  Speaker 4: How many? How many catches are all these other receivers getting, well.
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  Speaker 3: How many catches did he have last year when they
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  Speaker 3: didn't use them?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not even gonna look that up, but
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  Speaker 9: I'd say he should have seven touchdowns fifty here, so catches,
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  Speaker 9: that's what it should be.
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  Speaker 5: Because I think we're starting to see now with Breton
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  Speaker 5: Strange like he's gonna become Trevor Lawrence's security blanket. I think,
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  Speaker 5: And if Trevor can keep getting that confidence in the
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  Speaker 5: pocket we've been saying, he looks different, I think I
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  Speaker 5: don't call him like a checkdown guy like Evan Ingram
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  Speaker 5: was back a couple of years ago. But I think
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  Speaker 5: in terms of a security blanket, he can be that
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  Speaker 5: guy for Trevor.
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  Speaker 6: But again, on the opening, the opening throw, he's down
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  Speaker 6: the seam, he's wide open, you gotta throw that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's where he's going to become more of
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  Speaker 3: a factor than he was even even a year ago.
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  Speaker 6: So fifty and seven, that's that'd beig good season for him, right,
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  Speaker 6: fifty catches, seven touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: I'll take that. Yeah, that's not a bad season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No. And plus is blocking. That makes him one
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  Speaker 3: of the top ten. That would make him one of
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  Speaker 3: the top ten tight ends in the league. I like that.
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  Speaker 4: That's it for fanatics fan questions tonight. Appreciate all the submissions.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to more as the season goes along. We'll
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  Speaker 4: come back in a moment. We'll get our final thoughts
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  Speaker 4: going into the Dolphins game. He's gonna beat at practice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Thursday. Are you gonna be there?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'll be there. We'll come back and dig into
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  Speaker 4: Jags will go to Miami this week and they'll practice
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  Speaker 4: against the Dolphins Thursday and Davy at their practice facility,
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  Speaker 4: and then the game is Saturday. Are the Dolphins any good, Pete, No,
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  Speaker 4: they're not.
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  Speaker 6: But they have some good young players I've been impressed with,
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  Speaker 6: like Jenn Grant, the defensive tackle from Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Really impressive looking kid. So I think their lines are
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  Speaker 3: better than they've been.
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  Speaker 6: The left tackle Patrick Paul Guy I really liked it,
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  Speaker 6: has been outstanding this preseason.
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  Speaker 3: So they have talent. I just don't think they're deep
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  Speaker 3: enough that I think their secondary is bad. The corners
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  Speaker 3: are really bad.
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  Speaker 6: And it'll be interesting to see how they practice because
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  Speaker 6: I watched the joy practice between Miami and Washington last year.
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  Speaker 6: Washington comes out on the field, they got all their
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  Speaker 6: uniforms on and everything, and Miami's over there and half
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  Speaker 6: the guys are dressed.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them are doing they're they're not practicing. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's so it's so haphazard. With that guy, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but it'll be interesting to see if they are they
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  Speaker 3: going to pad it up. I mean, what's the point
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  Speaker 3: if they don't, right, I would, But Miami and Washington.
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  Speaker 4: Remember remember when the Bucks came here, they padded one
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  Speaker 4: day and then did in the next. We're like, what
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  Speaker 4: is that?
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  Speaker 3: I hope they padded up?
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  Speaker 6: I want I want to see padded practice, you would
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  Speaker 6: hope by the way that practice facility, you walk in,
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  Speaker 6: you look around and you go, oh my god, it looks.
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  Speaker 3: Just like the one here.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the idea.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was that it's almost identical.
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  Speaker 4: The idea is to save undesigned time and cost. Was
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  Speaker 4: just almost basically copy that one. Pete, what do you
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  Speaker 4: attribute to cause?
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  Speaker 5: Like usually you see a team with the joint practice
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  Speaker 5: of but the Mammi Dolphins have taken it upon themselves
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  Speaker 5: to get like every joint practice that they can.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like, what is there? Just is there?
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  Speaker 3: I think a question of Dawson, you know what I
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  Speaker 3: think that was when they went up there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a team that had been kind of
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  Speaker 6: fraid and he's trying to bring him back together. And
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  Speaker 6: he thought if he goes away for eleven days as
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  Speaker 6: a team together, and they worked and had the work,
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  Speaker 6: but it's more about the bonding of the team.
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  Speaker 3: Because they left on a on a if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 6: They left on a Tuesday practice with the Bears with
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  Speaker 6: the Lions Wednesday Thursday, played that game and then or
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  Speaker 6: the other way around, and then then played the Lions.
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  Speaker 6: So they they were up there for eleven days. They
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  Speaker 6: were away from their facility for eleven days. That's a
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  Speaker 6: long time in training camp.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm gonna be gone for eleven days
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  Speaker 5: on the Mammi Dolphins, I'm going to Antarctica so I
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  Speaker 5: can actually play in a cold for once. I'm gonna
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: take my guy's dan Arctica instead of precedent, like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you guys are gonna learn how to play in cold
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  Speaker 5: weather because playing in Lambell last year, I wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: No, It's like they don't they They're terrible in cold weather.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Not tough. They're not tough. It's not a tough team.
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  Speaker 3: Let's put this way.
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  Speaker 6: If Jacksonville goes down there and has problems with that team,
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  Speaker 6: that's a major red flag.
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  Speaker 4: Red flag. Is the coach gonna make it?
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  Speaker 3: Not after this year? M I think he's done. I
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  Speaker 3: think Chris Greer's done the front office. I think they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna start a new I really do.
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  Speaker 6: I think if they think about that division, Buffalo clear
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  Speaker 6: clearly the best team.
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  Speaker 3: The Jets are better, even with Justin Fields playing quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: they're better. And New England's on the rise.
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  Speaker 6: New England's coming, Mike Rabel's gonna have that team fighty.
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  Speaker 6: What does Miami give you? They give you a pretty
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  Speaker 6: pretty offense. You know they're gonna crowl up in the
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  Speaker 6: fetal position when it's time to play tough, and they
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  Speaker 6: just don't have the secondary.
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  Speaker 3: They're starting corners are off the scrap heap.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. If you see, like the roster a
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  Speaker 5: couple of years ago, like that was the wind to
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  Speaker 5: it seemed like for Miami to make a run and
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  Speaker 5: they didn't really even come close to that.
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  Speaker 4: So explosive with that speed on offense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, offensively those score points. But Austin think about this.
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  Speaker 6: After the season, he was talking about he kept finding
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: players and they were still late. What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean? And he clearly it was Jalen Ramsey.
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  Speaker 6: Along with who, by the way, is a problem wherever
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  Speaker 6: he goes. Yeah, and Tyreek Hill doing what he wants
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: to do. But you're the head coach, you got to
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  Speaker 6: I don't care who the hell they are. You're on
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  Speaker 6: my team, you're doing it my way, or you're not playing.
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  Speaker 4: Pete, aren't you the one that told Jalen to be
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  Speaker 4: the villain.
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  Speaker 3: Don't be be stupid.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was you.
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  Speaker 3: I did tell them to be the villain, but to
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  Speaker 3: cash in on his being a villain.
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  Speaker 6: But he got to show up for work on time
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  Speaker 6: from what I had not when I was told the
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  Speaker 6: team would be on the field, and like twenty minutes later,
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  Speaker 6: he comes, sneak in and get into practice.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he was one of those guys nobody saw me.
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  Speaker 4: Hey got you guys. I was here the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: The coach is ultimately responsible for that, though.
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  Speaker 6: If the leaders of that team are not handling things
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  Speaker 6: the right way, the coach needs to step in and
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  Speaker 6: make sure that they do. And if they don't, then
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  Speaker 6: you don't play. Yeah, he's late, I'm finding him or
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  Speaker 6: I find him again.
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  Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do? Who you know what
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  Speaker 3: you're supposed to do? Sit his ass down and take
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  Speaker 3: away his game check.
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars approached this week with this being the only joint practice.
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  Speaker 4: I would assume that the starting guys will get a
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  Speaker 4: lot of their work in the practice and probably not
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  Speaker 4: should and probably not in the game.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah and should yeah, no, well without a doubt, you know,
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  Speaker 5: especially you know, I don't expect them playing the last
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: preseason game, all right, So then go go do your
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: work against another team with a different colored jersey on
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  Speaker 5: and show them what you can do. And to tackle
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  Speaker 5: Pete's point, like on defense, you should be able to
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  Speaker 5: carve that Dolphins team up, you know, on offense, whether
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  Speaker 5: tyree Kis would be practicing or not, like it'll keep
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  Speaker 5: at least I think that's or secondary honest, And if
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  Speaker 5: we get a little Travis Hunter Tyreek Hill matchup, I'll
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  Speaker 5: be mad at that.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with that at all.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'd like to see I'd like to see that actually.
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  Speaker 4: Be a pay per view right there.
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  Speaker 6: And by the way, next when they do play the Dolphins,
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  Speaker 6: that's what life's gonna be like without Trevor Lawrence. Enjoy
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  Speaker 6: it if he's not playing, because you're gonna see Nick
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  Speaker 6: Mullens play a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Pete, We'll see you on the practice field Thursday, Frisco,
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  Speaker 4: Austin Plaine. Thanks to oving tyre Crew, David, Joe britt Reaver,
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  Speaker 4: Joe Fortunado. Thanks to you for watching and listening. This
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