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A family dog can be a playmate, a steady routine, and sometimes the calmest kind of therapy · Every Pawprint! Every Story!

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  SPEAKER_00: All righty.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: Good afternoon.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: Good morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is Dan Popovic.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am the host of Every Pop Print, Every Story.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a new podcast that is featuring pets.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all about every paw print has a story.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a weekly conversation space where people honor pets they've lost, celebrate the joy pets bring, and support one another through pet grief.
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  SPEAKER_00: Each episode centers on a guest memory, the rituals that keep those pets present in daily life, and the lessons of love and loss that pets teach us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm excited today to have literally my first guest speaker on the show, Dibya Trapathi from North Carolina.
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you, Dibya?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, Dan.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing great.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: And thank you for inviting me.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is really exciting what you have started here.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's great to see that you have a podcast, especially for pets, where you know we can come and talk about pets, which is hardly you can find anywhere.
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  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for inviting me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So keeping on that topic, uh, how many fur kids do we have?
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  SPEAKER_01: So far, I only have one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's uh a wire fox terrier.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh we got him last year when he was around four months old.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So now he's like over a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, he's he's cute.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's um 25 pound.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: I hope he will not grow more than that because then we will have to worry about his diet.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, wow, puppy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is this is the first one.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: So growing up, I had a dog.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he was a Tibetan mess mess mestif.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's all you'cause because you know, in Nepal we call them botekukuru, which is like Himalayan dogs, and they're usually fine in the Himalayan region.
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  SPEAKER_01: So growing up, I think I was in seventh grade when my dad brought him.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was he was a puppy then as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we used to feed him, like hand feed and all that, because he was very fragile at that time.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we kind of me and my brother, we grew up with him, but then um I kind of transitioned into like after college, came to US, and that's when we kind of you know separated.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: But my mom and dad were taking care of him.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: But I think he was around like nine years old when he was uh very sick, and then we kind of lost him.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: But he was our first pet, and then uh fast forward to a few years ago, 13 years ago, uh we adopted um uh Labrador, Yellow Labrador.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he was a moldy, and when we got him, he was about four weeks as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we have had puppies, like you know, little puppies, and we like to like, you know, welcome them as a family member and then train them and be around them, like you know, all of those nine years that you do with the little babies.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: So when we had Mowgli, uh we had just me and my husband, we had just married, and we were thinking about maybe the next step after getting married is you know, if you wanted to have babies and all that, how can we train ourselves to be a good parent?
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: So we thought, you know, having a dog is something that will definitely teach us everything that we know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that was the route we took, and plus I grew up with dog.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: I have uh really fond memories with uh Johnny, our first one, um the Tibetan Mastiff.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh with Mowgli, we wanted to have the same kind of memory.
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  SPEAKER_01: And my husband also grew up with his dog, so um, it was just uh uh it was not even we did not even take a minute to think about it.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: We we were so aligned that we wanted to adopt a dog.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: So you went so okay, so Mastiff has a big dog, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: How big was how big was he?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: He I think he was more than 100 pounds for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, he was he was huge, and um my dad had a specific person because in Nepal, the way we are grown up, you know, it's like um my my dad had worked in um of government uh official, so he used to get transferred every three years to different cities and states.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it was pretty difficult for us to take care of a dog because he was huge, because you have to take it, you know, take him to different places, walk him around.
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  SPEAKER_01: And plus they're trained to take care of the hearts in the Himalayan region, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But now we have a dog who is sits in the house, like you know, you have to burn his energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we had someone who used to take him out and do all of those things.
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  SPEAKER_01: We were lucky in that area, and then us being a kid, we only always used to play around with him, have fun with him.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the fun kind of part where we were, but the struggling part where you have to take care of the dog was someone else taking care of him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we wanted to learn that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So with Mowgli, the first hand we went through, like you know, how you train a dog, potty training was something like I used to wake up every two to three hours just to take him out, make sure that you know he's taking care of the first two, three weeks was a struggle, but after that it was not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Usually is the first couple.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: So this is the okay, so this is the Labrador, right?
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: You were talking about?
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that was the first one with you and the husband, and you know, kind of the objective, well, several objectives, but like you said, kind of leading into the kids and helping you guys from a parenting perspective.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, how did you how did he come to be a part of your part of your life?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: How did you how did you find him?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: So we were we had uh it was through our husband's work.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so he he had someone who recommended that we should go to a specific place, uh, and that's where uh I think he it was a farm where he had five other siblings, and then uh okay.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: He was a pure breed Labrador, so we kind of got from the breeder.
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  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha, yeah, and um it was um some it was one place in Massachusetts.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I cannot think of a name of a city right now because it's a memory thing, but but he was four weeks old when we went there, and then um I think we we have to keep the puppies with their mom for about eight weeks or ten weeks, so and then we had to go back and pick him up after 10 weeks old.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: Any um, you know, it's so you got him before you got married or after you got married?
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: After, after it was right after we got married.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So official.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's like you know, we we were talking about this, but we waited until like, you know, we had the official wedding.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, no reason I was asking that.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: I I was somewhere recently and they were talking about their dog was the groomsman and brought the, you know, and you you see that in Hallmark too.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: So you just you love those episodes of the the pup bringing the uh being the ring bearer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um any fun stories though, like that with him that are memorable to you?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there are so many with Mowgli because uh we have moved so many places since then, and you know, all those struggles, ups and downs, he has been part of our family.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: Every celebration, because you know, in our culture, there are so many, like we have festivities and so many things that we do.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: He has always been part of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh in in our culture, uh right around the time of October, there is a specific day.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have uh there is a dedicated day where we kind of uh cherish dogs as being a companion, like a loyal companion.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the thing in Nepal as a whole, like you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So until then, we that day wasn't it was like we were not doing anything until Mowgli came along.
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  SPEAKER_01: After Mowgli was part of our family, every every year we used to have a specific celebration around that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We used to have our friends and family members.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: They used to come because you know Mowgli was very cute.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, he he's very he's very loving, like you know, he's very he's a family dog, right?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, very sociable.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: So that kind of became one reason why we used to have a family gathering or friends gathering around the time of October, and besides that, I mean he every walks, every parks you go to, he's with us.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Anywhere we are invited, even any trip that we go to, like we go to Maine or you know, Massachusetts or New York or even to Virginia to visit my brothers.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: We used to take him.
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  SPEAKER_00: So did did you dress him up for this the this holiday occasion?
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: His birthdays, Christmas time, and all of these specials, even we all all of those little um tricks that you can do with the dog, like you know, put something on the tail, and anytime you wax, it makes a noise.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: All right, we'll we'll definitely have to get some pictures of that and add to this.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um and he's is he still with you or he's no longer with you?
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, unfortunately, Mowgli passed away uh three years ago, okay, which was uh not an easy thing for us because um I have two sons.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: So our first son was Mowgli, and after that, um I had two other boys, and my older one, because uh he was diagnosed with um autism spectrum.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um we're kind of struggling with that too.
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  SPEAKER_01: But with Mowgli having his presence around uh my older one, we didn't realize how therapeutic pets can be for kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: So we we have seen firsthand like how he could um like relate his emotions or let go of his emotions while he was around Mowgli.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: So we uh we have seen that uh in a very the most positive aspect as we could.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: So he was uh sorry, go ahead.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's most like you know, we we we have moments when my son he used to come back from daycare and later on he started in he started going to elementary school.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: The first thing he used to do after coming back home was he used to hug Mobly.
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  SPEAKER_01: He used to have like uh downtime with him for like 20-13 minutes before even doing anything else.
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  SPEAKER_01: There was a routine between him and Mobley.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were like um best buddies, um even after my little one came along.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Mobly was always like, you know, their first buddy to go to.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was gonna ask you that.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: So you you probably saw to your point that that sense of companionship where he just spent more time, you know, maybe at his feet or on the couch with him or something like that, right?
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just you know, it brings back all of those memories of how they were growing up.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they used to mogley was a step for them to like, you know, the dog toddler stays how they like you know go around the house.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: So Mowgli was a step for them to even climb the stair, climb on the sofa, climb on the bed.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: He was their pillows at time, he was like you know, toys at that at times.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: So now we're wouldn't that when you say a step for them, what do you mean by that?
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: He he would kind of show them how to walk up the stairs and how to get on the couch.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they would just step on him to go on the step.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like you know, it's hilarious, and then movie along with him.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: So seriously, going up the stairs, he would get on the stairs and let the kids go, and then he would have I would love it.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, man, that's priceless.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'd love that would be awesome to see.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um three years ago, yeah, it's it's it's tough.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: How old was he?
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was 10 years old.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: 10 years.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Is that a is that a a good lifespan?
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: No, not for uh yellow labradors.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: I believe it's like 15 or 16 is that yeah.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: So he was diagnosed uh with cancer.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so he had had he had um few um instances where we thought that you know, I mean, his health was pretty good as far as I know, even for a 10-year-old, because uh, you know, we were the diet-wise and the exercise-wise, uh, he was pretty healthy until he was diagnosed with uh cancer.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: And then um uh we took him to the vet and we wanted to understand if it's a it's better to get rid of the cancer to have the surgery done, or should we just leave it the way it is and the nature takes it course?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: So the doctor kind of gave us a recommendation if we do a surgery, maybe he we may be able to extend his lifetime by six months to a year.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: But if we just let it be, it may just, you know, painful for him, and we didn't want it to go through that.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: So we took the doctor's advice and we had the surgery done.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: But unfortunately, because of the surgery, he couldn't even recover.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: And within within a week or 10 days, that was the max.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: And had I known wouldn't have done the surgery, yeah.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because he might have might have been with you a little bit longer, probably, but he even a little bit of pain, yeah.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, like hindsight 20, I probably would have done the same thing, like you said, you know, you're you're so you're gonna do what what you feel is right to protect him and um certainly get that.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: So three years ago, he he he passes.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um did you guys now you've got you've got the new little one now, but you didn't how long was it before you got another one after his passing?
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: Three years because we couldn't move on.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: You could so interesting, you couldn't move on.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I know the pain with that and and pain.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: So how I mean what are some of the steps you guys took as a family to kind of move on from that loss?
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: So what we have done is um we I have uh my brother is in Virginia and he has a dog, he has a German shepherd.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: So every time we used to go down Virginia, we used to take Mowgli with us.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: So Mowgli had a uh you know, companion, a friend there as well.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: So they used to get along while you know our family gatherings was were there, Mowgli was also meeting his friend.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: So after so within that time frame, anytime we used to go to Virginia, my kids it was not easy transition, I must say.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: What what made you wait three years to to get another one?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: And and what yeah, I mean, what what what what made you wait and and what sparked you that three years later, I it it's time to get another one?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: What kind of spark to that?
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: So um, first of all, I mean it was very difficult to let go of the memory.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: First of all, we did not want it to have uh, you know, because he was such a big part of our family.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um and plus we had uh like um I still do.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we have a blanket made off of Moogie's picture.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um we have also engraved his paw print.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: I have also engraved his name in one of the wind chimes that is our Porsche.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like every time you know you hear that.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: What's that?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: So uh being on that note, so like what's a small one or two ordinary moments that still make you smile about you know about his presence that that he you know that he used to do.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um like you know, just a simple gesture of any time you you're happy, he so whenever we play certain kind of music, then he used to go around round circle like he's dancing.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: So that was one of like you know, his uh we know then the minute we play that song, he he he's dancing.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: And my husband, he loves to play flute, so he he loved listening to that as well.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: He was always around him next to him when he's playing music.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Very cool.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: And um, we used to take him with us when whenever we used to pick up our kids.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: So we do we have the same ritual with uh Kobe as well.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: Now it's like anytime um myself or my husband, we go pick up kids from school, they're always in the car, they're also welcoming him.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: So that that has been like our part.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then Mowgli used to before you know, he used to sleep with my older son in his room.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we haven't been able to get our Kobe, the little one, to sleep in the room because he's super high energy.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: He he's so agile, so he doesn't want to sit in one place.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it will one more year he will be able to, but Kobe was always yeah, but Mowgli was always like you know, in his room.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Mobly, I love the name.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: How did you guys come up with the name?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: So growing up, me and my husband, we used to watch uh this uh uh cartoon.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh it's still played in Nepal and part of India in Nepal.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: And the character there from the jungle book is Mobly, if you if you know.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: Very cool.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Love the story.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's similar with mine, right?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Marley was our first one, and um it, you know, I wanted the name, you know, I wanted a Doberman, I wanted a Zeus or Apollo, and it was from you know the Magnum PI days, but you know, Sherry got us a female, and like, well, Zeus Apollo doesn't seem to fit for a female, so we we went with Marley, which is kind of like Marley and me from the movie.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: So that that's awesome.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then yeah, the story on the so the the dancing, but it was literally 360 degrees, I guess, right?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's really cool.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so then Kobe's the new one, the new the newest edition, uh year and a half, you said?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, he's a year and a half.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: How did we how did we come up with that name?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: So my son is into basketball these days.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Oh okay.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: So you he's the one who named Kobe after Kobe Bryant.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's funny.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: I was just about to say it's not after Kobe Bryant, is it?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sure enough, it is.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: Who does he levitate towards, or is he just like everybody's and he's just too young and crazy right now?
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: So in the beginning, he was mostly listening to my husband because he was the one who was mostly training him and walking him in the morning.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: But these days it's like uh he's accustomed to anybody asking him.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: He just sits on the lap.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Whoever is on the sofa, he's he will go and sit on their lap.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: And he's pretty much a family dog now.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: He he he will um go around uh and any minute you can give him, like, you know, he doesn't want to be all by himself.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: There has to be somebody next to him, and if he's all himself, he will be like, okay, he he has learned to open the sliding door, how to open the sliding door.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he has learned a few tricks on his own.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't taught him.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: He has learned he's so agile.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize how agile the Firefox terrier could be.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Even the the small barrier that could work for Mowgli doesn't work for Kobe.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: So we we have to relearn the the tricks of the trade that can go with Kobe.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: And um, the reason behind why we wanted to get Kobe uh Wirefox Terrier is uh growing up, uh, me and my husband uh like uh we used to read a lot of comics.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then uh one of the comics, uh uh very popular comics around that time was Tintin.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I'm not sure if you're familiar, but I think it's a German writer, it's from Germany.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm not specifically sure.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's somewhere from Germany.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: So the Tintin character is Tintin is like uh he you know, he likes to go on adventures and he likes to like you know um investigate things and all of that.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: So um, and he has a dog who is a Wirefox terrier, and the dog's name is Snowy.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: So we always liked dog, like it's snowy, the character and what he does with Tintin and all of that.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: So we always wanted to get a Wirefox terrier at some point.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: So very investigative nature.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: I guess another word for that is extremely mischievous.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Curious.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: So to give you a very uh small example around the winter time, because we have a big backyard, so he likes to go in the backyard and do his thing.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: And if it's a winter time, he will pick out the door, and if it's cold, he will decide to come in and he will pick a spot and will take care of his business inside the house just because it's cold outside.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Luckily, okay, yeah.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And then what about when it's raining?
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Is it the same thing, or does he go and it's raining?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, rain doesn't bother him that much as much as the cold.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: Do you get it?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: Get him a sweater.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: He has.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, he has a jacket and a sweater.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: So even then, yeah, and he feels cold a lot.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: He shivers a lot.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it seems like because of the kind of a breed he is, probably he's not able to take the cold weather.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I've got probably one last question.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: We could we may have to do another part two of this to keep going.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think we're coming up to our time, but I mean this is an amazing story.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: But having um having gone through both of us, having gone through loss of of a pet, a family member, um, what would your like recommendation suggestion to somebody else that maybe hasn't experienced that yet and how to, you know, I guess maybe how to handle or prepare for it if you can prepare for it.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Any any thoughts on that?
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: So if I have to recommend someone who hasn't had a dog or a pet yet, I mean, that's you're definitely missing out because they have so much to offer, and you you it's like you know, you kind of reinvent yourself when you are around pets.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: There are so much of uh emotions, so much of a love that you have that you can share with someone who cannot speak back to you, someone who is so loyal to you, someone who is just giving.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like they're just they're giving us more than we are asking for, right?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: So um definitely uh it's uh worth every minute of our life to have uh a pet as a companion.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's probably a great segue to at least end this this episode, this first one.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Dibya.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then for new new folks that are gonna eventually be listening to this, watching, um, there'll be a QR code uh to scan to learn more about the podcast, to subscribe, also the book that I authored.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: But um again, just wanted to thank you, Dibia, for joining me on this journey and kind of sharing a little bit about your journey.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because that that's definitely what it is a journey with the pets.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I think, like you said, and what they really teach us and the value they bring to our family.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you for you know sharing today.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was my pleasure, Dan.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having me.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hang on one second.
• 25:08
  unknown: Stop.