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FT at Diamondbacks camp: Zac Gallen, Kevin Ginkel · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: From a depth perspective, like we can fill a lot
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  Speaker 1: of holes. And you know, if something were to happen
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  Speaker 1: here there, we can we can handle it.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go, Zach Allen joining us right now on
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  Speaker 2: foul territory. Zach, good to see you, hear us, right,
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  Speaker 2: you're good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you guys.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I don't mean this rudely at all,
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  Speaker 4: but look, I mean it's like, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I'm with Rosenthal right now.
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  Speaker 5: This guy's six inches off his chair, sitting on the
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  Speaker 5: phone book, really long long day camp.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just my posture whatever, all right, you know, but.
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  Speaker 2: Just be like, yo, let me live my life anyway
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  Speaker 2: with you, Zach. I'm curious.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know before you dig in, hold on, no,
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  Speaker 4: where were you asking? So he walked by earlier, okay,
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  Speaker 4: and he had a hood on, and he had like
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  Speaker 4: John Lenning glasses, and he had his hat pulled down
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  Speaker 4: like this, right, So he looked like this walking back,
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  Speaker 4: and he was it was like it was like seven
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  Speaker 4: in the morning, and he walks by, and I'm just
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  Speaker 4: like hey, hey, And so then he excu's me of
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  Speaker 4: not knowing who he was, and I for one hundred
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  Speaker 4: percent who he was because Mark, our producers here goes
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  Speaker 4: that was galling. I go, yeah, I know, and he goes,
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  Speaker 4: why didn't he talk to him? I go, he was
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  Speaker 4: three quarters of sleep. What am I gonna say, like, hey, dude,
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  Speaker 4: wake up, go get some coffee and come back. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: of course I knew who you were.
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  Speaker 3: I'm calling. I'm calling BS on that one I walked by.
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  Speaker 5: My hat was not I never wear my hat down low.
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  Speaker 5: I did have a hood on and sunglasses, so I'll
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  Speaker 5: give you that. But I was like, agent didn't realize.
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  Speaker 5: And then I get inside and they're like, hey, they
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  Speaker 5: want to go on the show. I'm like, maybe I
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  Speaker 5: won't go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's good to see you, dude, and we recognize
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  Speaker 2: you now, and also Kratz and I know who you are.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, are you one of those guys that's like, yeah, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: spring training, let's speed this up. I mean, you've pitched
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  Speaker 2: a lot, right, like over the years. I was actually
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  Speaker 2: just looking up. I'm like, how did you pitch, like, say,
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three when you guys made it the
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  Speaker 2: World Series almost two hundred and fifty innings, or you
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  Speaker 2: were like, hey, this seems really good. Let's just get
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  Speaker 2: my work in quick start the real play.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, spring training is like uh for me, it's like
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  Speaker 5: there's like three stages. It's like the beginning is like exciting,
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  Speaker 5: like all the boys are coming back, the fellas there
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  Speaker 5: in the in the clubhouse, we're hanging out, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we're having a good time.
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  Speaker 3: And then the game start and you're like, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 5: When you make your first start and you know, from
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  Speaker 5: a picture standpoint, I'm like, all right, this is fun.
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  Speaker 5: And then by like start two and three, you're like,
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  Speaker 5: all right, I'm bored. And then the last like probably
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  Speaker 5: week to ten days, you can smell opening day and
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  Speaker 5: you're like kind of getting invigorated again. So that's kind
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  Speaker 5: of the ebb and flow for me over my last
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  Speaker 5: few spring trainings of like I'm at that spot now
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  Speaker 5: where we're like we're getting close opening day, but it's
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  Speaker 5: still two and a half weeks away. I'm like, all right,
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  Speaker 5: let's get this thing rolling.
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  Speaker 4: Are you wasz that grinky type in spring training? Do
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  Speaker 4: you tinker? Are you a tinkerer? You try like something
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  Speaker 4: crazy just to make sure it's on table, Like you know,
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  Speaker 4: you sued to throw the big epis pitching spring train.
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  Speaker 5: No, I would always try and add something, but I've
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  Speaker 5: noticed over time I need to be smart about what
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  Speaker 5: I'm adding. I think last year I tried to add
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  Speaker 5: a break the ball that went a little more left
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  Speaker 5: and kind of screwed up my delivery a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: So try to be smart about what I'm adding. But
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  Speaker 5: I know at some point in time, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 5: be twenty nine anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to.
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  Speaker 5: Just can you have I mean, in a perfect world,
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  Speaker 5: I probably have five or six I have, Like I
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  Speaker 5: have a if I could throw a two seam and
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  Speaker 5: then get a slider that goes left, that's six pitches.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not gonna be twenty nine throwing ninety five.
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  Speaker 5: And you know I'm gonna get old at some point,
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  Speaker 5: so I gotta adapt or die. That's that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: where I'm at.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, No, pitchers don't pictures don't ever need to adapt.
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  Speaker 6: They just they played way longer than position players, especially
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  Speaker 6: athletic pitchers from the north. Like you, you don't even
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  Speaker 6: have that many miles on you yet. So free agency.
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  Speaker 6: Free agency is gonna be your oyster. The world is
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  Speaker 6: gonna be your oyster. Are you looking forward to it?
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  Speaker 5: Looking forward to it is an interesting way to put it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm embracing it. I think I'm getting that question a
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  Speaker 5: lot about you know, the mental side of free agency.
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  Speaker 5: I've been treating it a lot like the draft coming
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  Speaker 5: out of college. I think if you ignore what's at stake,
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  Speaker 5: you're doing yourself a disservice. But I think if you're also,
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  Speaker 5: like really kind of geared up for it, you're also
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  Speaker 5: doing yourself a disservice. So like, I'm just embracing the
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  Speaker 5: fact that I worked really hard in my career, worked
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  Speaker 5: really hard in this spot of my life from my
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  Speaker 5: family to get to this point in my life and
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  Speaker 5: and our journey. So for me, I'm just embracing it
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  Speaker 5: and just gonna try out and go be healthy and pitch.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 4: Have you talked to Corbyn about it?
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  Speaker 3: Corbin Burns? No, not really, we haven't talked about it
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 4: Did you touch with the cutter soon?
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna get'm but goes back to my conversation of
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  Speaker 5: tinkering too much, I might get out of whack.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, that is a pitch. I would be very intrigued, Diden,
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  Speaker 3: very interested.
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  Speaker 4: In Yeah, right, pulled the glove like on his side
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  Speaker 4: over here and wiggle. We're not showing it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna yea like this.
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  Speaker 5: I'll bother him and once the season starts, I'm letting
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  Speaker 5: him do this thing right now. Get it gets settled
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  Speaker 5: once once the season starts, then I'll start picking his
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  Speaker 5: brain a little bit more and seeing what you.
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  Speaker 4: How excited were you that when the Diamonbacks signed him,
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  Speaker 4: because you you're kind of the ace. Now you bring
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  Speaker 4: in another ace, so now you have two aces.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was ecstatic. Really.
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  Speaker 5: I I think I kind of knew a couple hours
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  Speaker 5: early benefits of having the same agent, that it was
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  Speaker 5: something that could legitimately happen. And I knew just how
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  Speaker 5: close we were last year and just injuries and things
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  Speaker 5: like that. And I've known Corbin now for a couple
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  Speaker 5: of years. The type of competitory is kind of like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the workhorse he is. So I was ecstatic
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  Speaker 5: and just kind of looking back to teams that tend
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  Speaker 5: to do really well comes to the playoffs and you know,
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  Speaker 5: winning World Series, they have a lot of really good pitching.
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  Speaker 5: So for me, I was I was pumped about it
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  Speaker 5: just to have another guy, you know, to be able
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  Speaker 5: to shoulder the load with the rest of the guys
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  Speaker 5: we have in that clubhouse is awesome real.
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  Speaker 2: Quick, and then we'll let the TV audience go to
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  Speaker 2: their commercial and all that. But did you have any
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  Speaker 2: say in the recruiting or you just I did not have, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I just found out about it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of was under the impression he was going
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  Speaker 5: to go somewhere else, so I didn't even bother Like,
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  Speaker 5: I knew he wanted to come here. He'd expressed that
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  Speaker 5: interest A lot of guys have.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think just just.
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  Speaker 5: The culture we have here, in the simplicity and the
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  Speaker 5: logistics of playing here and living here. But no, I
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  Speaker 5: had no. No, I probably would have screwed it up.
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  Speaker 5: So maybe it was a good thing that I did
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  Speaker 5: that I didn't have.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't getting rid of my Bob Gibson autograph card.
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  Speaker 4: Bob Gibson ain't card signing cards anytime soon, so I'm
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  Speaker 4: The only thing I wish they had bubblegum. Can they
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  Speaker 2: off your first purchase. Zach, Obviously, you guys have had success.
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  Speaker 2: I mean even last year. You're an eighty nine win team.
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  Speaker 2: Year before you make it to the World Series. So
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  Speaker 2: you're confident in the ball club.
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  Speaker 3: That you have.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like the addition of Corbyn to playoff
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  Speaker 2: what they're saying makes you, guys, you know, a very
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  Speaker 2: legit World Series contender and that you can keep up
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  Speaker 2: with frankly, a national league that looks more talented than
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  Speaker 2: the American league, I mean Dodgers, Braves, Philly's Matts, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I think, like you said, we were an
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  Speaker 5: eighty nine win team last year with a lot of
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  Speaker 5: guys missing a significant part. Significant guys missing a significant
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  Speaker 5: part of the season. I mean, you lose Merrill for
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  Speaker 5: three four months, you lose e Rod for three four months.
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  Speaker 5: I went down for a month, like Marte missed a month.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you're talking about, you know, guys who grinded
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  Speaker 5: out eighty nine wins. So from a talent standpoint, I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we absolutely got better with the addition of Gordon Burns. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: you know, losing Walker and Jock is tough, but you
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  Speaker 5: know you fill that right back in with with Naylor
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  Speaker 5: and I think you know, big things out of Pavin
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  Speaker 5: this year. So and our bullpen, you had Puck at
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  Speaker 5: the deadline, some guys like Graveman and Shelby Miller, and
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  Speaker 5: then you know, in addition to the guys we have
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  Speaker 5: here already, Like, I'm excited for this year just this
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  Speaker 5: is probably on paper, I would say the most talented
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  Speaker 5: team I might have ever played on in my career, definitely,
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  Speaker 5: and I would say professional baseball. So yeah, I'm really
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  Speaker 5: excited for this year and to see what's to come.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you want to finish the season with parade?
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  Speaker 6: Does it mean anything else different when you're going for
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  Speaker 6: a parade at the end of the season, and you
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  Speaker 6: watched the Eagles parade, Like, do you look at it
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  Speaker 6: differently going into your year here with the Diamondbacks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that that's what everyone sets
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  Speaker 5: out to do, is to finish the year with the parade.
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  Speaker 5: So we were super close two years ago, and then obviously,
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  Speaker 5: like you said, I just saw my Eagles, you know,
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  Speaker 5: celebrate down Broad Street. So for me to be able
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  Speaker 5: to be a part of a parade of my own,
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  Speaker 5: especially in a city here who's who's been longing for
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  Speaker 5: a championship for twenty plus years, I think it would
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  Speaker 5: be super fun. I think it would really be a
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  Speaker 5: testament to the culture and just the vibe that we
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  Speaker 5: just have kind of I don't know, accumulated here. It's
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  Speaker 5: it's been a lot of fun and uh so we'll
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  Speaker 5: see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I don't did you mention any position
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  Speaker 4: players and guys in this time? Oh could tell? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And you know you didn't mess and you mentioned your catcher.
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  Speaker 4: You always gott to mess with your catcher.
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  Speaker 3: Walker missed some time.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I could have been standing on the soapbox been like,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, everybody was legitimately hurt, so it would have
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  Speaker 5: been most of the segment if I would have been like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Gabby was hurt, Walk was hurt.
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  Speaker 3: We had some guys miss some time.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, so it's not easy, but you know we
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  Speaker 5: we had guys grind it out.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's.
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  Speaker 5: Just just what that That just shows you what that
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  Speaker 5: clubhouse is made.
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  Speaker 3: Up in there.
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  Speaker 4: Bigger Eagles fan, you or Trout?
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  Speaker 3: I think Trout probably.
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  Speaker 4: Really Do you have season tickets? No? Why not?
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  Speaker 5: I would be a ginormous Eagles fan if I had
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  Speaker 5: tickets like Trout would be sitting right there on that Now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big use fan.
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  Speaker 4: You can't afford it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is true.
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  Speaker 4: Are you in Trout National?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, that's funny you say that.
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  Speaker 5: Actually just was talking to trout the other day about
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  Speaker 5: potentially being in there, So I don't know, we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: I spent most of my off season out here. We're
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  Speaker 5: my fiance is from here. We live out here full time.
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  Speaker 5: So uh, being back home for Eagles games, I try
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  Speaker 5: to get to like at least one on the East Coast.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, just depends on when we're home.
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  Speaker 5: So uh, yeah, I'll give trouty that he's probably a
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  Speaker 5: bigger fan than me from.
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  Speaker 3: Still wear an a Da.
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  Speaker 5: Brown jersey and uh, you know two days after the
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  Speaker 5: after them after the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: That works. That works the whole. You can encompass everything.
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  Speaker 6: You encompass everything you love golfing. You and Trout are
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  Speaker 6: from Jersey. He's opening a new course. You about to
• 11:38
  Speaker 6: get married, so maybe you can talk to Mike about Hey,
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  Speaker 6: I'll buy a membership that I don't need for a
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  Speaker 6: few years, but let me have my wedding at the
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  Speaker 6: new wedding venue that he's gonna have on his course.
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  Speaker 6: So talk to the boys, Tu Tom South Jersey love.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, so uh, Troud and I play
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  Speaker 5: for the same travel team. He's years older than me. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: Arsenal try said, Arsenal, Yeah, nailed.
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  Speaker 3: We were. Yeah, how'd you know that?
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  Speaker 4: My kids, my kids went through the travel ball circuit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were Arsenal guys.
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  Speaker 5: Trout was actually at my uh college like the nl
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  Speaker 5: I whatever, you know, the thing that they do in
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  Speaker 5: high school.
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  Speaker 3: They did like a whole big one for all my teammates.
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  Speaker 3: Tarlie was there.
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  Speaker 5: It was the year three won the Rookie of the Year.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was so school. We came back hung out.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, we're getting married in Cabo. So I don't
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  Speaker 5: think the marriage. I don't think it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: in in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Let me see Cabo, Jersey in the winter time, Cabo Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna pick Cabo. I don't know. Sorry, right,
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: did you know Trout was going to be good? Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Was he like a Was he the Todd Frazier of
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  Speaker 4: your era in the Jersey area?
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  Speaker 5: I remember so so Arsenal didn't have little league teams.
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  Speaker 3: I was on the first.
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  Speaker 5: Me and all my friends were on the first Little
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  Speaker 5: League team they did thirteen and older, so we had
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  Speaker 5: the same coach that that coach Trout like on the
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  Speaker 5: way up, and I remember him talking about Mike can
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  Speaker 5: be like, yeah, this kid, this kid, We're like, and
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  Speaker 5: then you get older and it's like, okay, now he's
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: just junior in high school. Senior in high school, and
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  Speaker 5: it's like twenty scouts of these games, thirty scouts of
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  Speaker 5: these games.
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  Speaker 3: So we kind of knew.
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  Speaker 5: And then the first thing when it kind of clicked,
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  Speaker 5: when I was like, oh, this guy must be legit
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  Speaker 5: was he was like I'm going to Secaucus for the draft,
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  Speaker 5: like for his thing, and I'm like, oh, all right,
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  Speaker 5: Like this guy's gonna be a first rounder. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we kind of knew, like he was in the facility
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  Speaker 5: every day and so yeah, and then now you see,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 4: To see you better get that in. But that's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who would I see the other day that
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  Speaker 4: got the whole thing that opened up Weaver. Weaver got
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  Speaker 4: like this whole it was like.
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  Speaker 3: Whole thing like social media. Oh I have to take
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  Speaker 3: a look at this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like this whole thing like welcome to Trout
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  Speaker 4: National Membership blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not. I mean, we'll see. I
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  Speaker 3: don't I don't know how much talking. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if i'm if I'm talking about right now, he might
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  Speaker 3: be like, hey, you're out, like we don't show.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it might be exclusive, you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not. I mean, I can't.
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  Speaker 4: How about this. How about we go play golf. If
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  Speaker 4: I beat you, I'm in. If you beat me, I'm out.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll see.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: I think you could win that fight, right, how about
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: if you face I think if I punch you out,
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: then I'm in.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: I think he's a better than me.
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I think so a scratch, No, no, no, no,
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: I thought you were like a scratch. I'm like an eight.
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: I think he's like a three. Merril's Merrill's a good golfer.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: He's he before he had his kids, he was probably
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: a scratch.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Really, he's the best golfer here.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: At this point in time.
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when Barry and Right was here, it was a
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: different story. He's good, unbelievable, unbelievable. Him and Carson Kelly
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: really good. Cars is another good golfer. He's probably plus
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: one plus two. So yeah, I I they give me
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: you know I get shots, but sometimes I don't do
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: with them what I should, So I wanted up losing money.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Hey, Zach, question for you. Somehow I'll get us
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: back to a little bit of baseball talk to finish.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, I want to talk about it.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: AJ has a golf show. Yeah, it's called Green Territory
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: or whatever. Anyway, Corbyn Cairal last year struggled four months,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: you know, shows like us, We're trying to figure it
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: out and people everyone's like, is he hurt?
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Whatever?
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: It didn't seem like that was the case, and then
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: he looked like himself for the last couple of months.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Curious for someone like you, obviously being in the league
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: for a minute, I know you're not a position player,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: what that was like for you to watch someone who
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: had such early success in the big leagues, you know,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: get the contract extension, get to the World Series and
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: you expect him to be an MVP candidate the next year,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: actually go through the classic sophomore slump, Like what did
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: it look like from your perspective? And and is he
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a guy that you know was open to combos or
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: kind of just kept his head down and was like
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to figure this out on my own.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was definitely, uh for sure open to combos
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: I remember like talking to him a little bit, just
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: from a pitcher's standpoint of like I think just from
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: the outside looking in of like just kind of observing
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: him from afar, Like, it seemed to me that Corbin
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: had a really good rookie year and learned the hard
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: lesson that we're all human and that trying to improve,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: like I've been guilty of it too, Like, oh, I
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: have a really good year. All right, cool, I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: I have everything mastered. I'm gonna try and add another pitch.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: And I think from corbyn standpoint, it was like, Okay,
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I had a really good year, won the Rookie of
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: the Year, I finished top five in the MVP. I'm
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: gonna now try and cover a pitch that had been
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: giving me trouble. So I think walking that fine line
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: of I know what I do really well, I know
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: what I don't do well, and trying not to sway
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: one way or the other. I think it's kind of what,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: at least just from conversations with Corbin like might have
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: went on. But he was definitely open to conversation. I
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: mean I remember, you know, Jock was talking to him
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: a lot. I was talking to him just from in
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: terms of a pitcher standpoint, just you know how hard
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: it is to locate at the spots that he has
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: trouble that he was like struggling trying to hit. It's like, hey,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: just make the pitcher prove that he's going to hit
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: that spot three times in a row. It's a hard
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: it's a hard thing to do. So just trying to
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: give him confidence from that. But I mean, he looks
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: like he's you know, he figured out in the second
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: half and he's been on absolute fire in spring training.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: So Corbyn's a guy who's very cerebral, and I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: he is going to be just fine.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: What's your best pitch?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: My curb probably my curveball.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Curveball you had to get if you had to get
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: somebody out and you had one pitch, you would be
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: your curveball.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I've never I don't know if I mean, maybe Barry
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Zito I heard say that before, but curveball is usually not,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: especially in today's game. You don't hear people say, man,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna rip a curveball.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Like for me, I think I'm really good when I'm
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: pitching off my fastball. I think a lot of teams
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: know that. So like, when I'm obviously commanding the fastball,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: it's gonna just like anyone else. But if I had
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: a bases loaded jam with like two outs, and I like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: you're going to have to try and hit my curveball
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: at some point, like, it'd be hard for me to
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: eliminate that pitch.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Zach, I've got one more for you.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: We've asked a few others at camp today about this topic,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and I want to preface it that we ask it
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: with respect. I want to know your thoughts on the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Dodgers offseason, and you're like, well, we're the Diamondbacks. Why
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: do I care? Well, because you guys took them down
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Your team has looked at
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: as a club that could slay the Dragon, whether it's
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: in the division or later on in the playoffs. So
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: do you look at that team and feel like, even
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: when you face them in the regular season, there's more
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: juice to it. There's more motivation based on now winning
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: a World Series, which they did, and how much Ammo
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: they've added to their roster.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I think there's definitely.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: More juice.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I think you know, when you play teams in your
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: division who you have a rivalry against, the teams you're playing,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, used to be nineteen that's thirteen
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: times a year. I think there's always going to be
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: some an added level of juice just because it's an
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: in division rival Yeah, and obviously it's no secret they
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: went out and spent a lot of money, which from
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: a player standpoint, I'm glad they did that. You know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: it's good for the players, good for the game that
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: they're trying to go out there and put the best
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: product in the field they possibly can. And I mean,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: I think my sentiment when playing them hasn't changed over
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: the last you know, four or five years, is that
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: if you want to accomplish what you want to accomplish,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: which ultimately ends in a parade at the end of
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: the year, you're going to have to go through the
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: best teams. And right now, on paper, they're probably the
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: best team in baseball. But as we know, baseball is
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: a game that can't be played on paper. So we're
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: still going to show up, We're going to play the
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: game and se happens. I think for us, we proved
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: to ourselves in twenty three that you know, we're not
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: we're not intimidated. It's it's it's a game of baseball.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: We can play our brand and still win and see
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: what happens. So I think for us that was kind
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: of a calming effect for this group in that clubhouse
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: going forward, when.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: You do your scouting reports, before you go through your
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: scouting because you're you're you said Corbyn, Carol was cerebral.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: You're you're very cerebral when you pitch, When you go
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: through your scouting reports and you look at you see
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: show Freddy. Is there one guy you look at and say.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: In that lineup or in general in life, in my career, yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, there's someone that's better than those three.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Please tell no.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: I was wondering where you met, Like if there was
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: a guy that, like, all right, who owned you in
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: your career in my career, yeah, Rhymel Tapia really ten
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: for nineteen I think, wow, you huh. He he's a
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: quick runner. So a lot of like hits where you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: bounce whatever. And then I'm like, all right, cool, like
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: let's challenge him.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Homer.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, Yeah, I mean in that lineup, it's tough. Obviously,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: it really presents you with a challenge of like I
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: can't pitch around show Hey. Let's say show Hey, Lee's
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: off at Showy Mookie Freddie, It's like, I can't pitch
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: you are on show and put him on first base
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: because he could steal fifty bags, so that's already a downside.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: And then Mooky's on deck he's and then.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: So you really have to pick your spots.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Let's talk Diamondbacks for a moment here. If you remember
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: two years ago was the magic right. They actually won
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: less games in twenty twenty three than in twenty twenty four,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: but there was just more competition for that wildcard spot
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't just Corbyn. Carrol could tell Marte some
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: of those starters like Brandon Fought stepping up the bullpen
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the damage two years ago and one of those names
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: who really stood out Kevin Ginkel joining us right now
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: on FT with the Diamondbacks and aj right there, Kevin,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: do you hear Yeah?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: It wasn't plugged in all, Okay, you got it. You
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: hear about it yet, But by the way, he doesn't
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: realize that we had we had a Burns interview lined
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: up here. So you just bumped Corbyn really, so just
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: remember that you see going there and tell them that
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: you bumped.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Them, all right, I will, I'll let him know. I'll
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: let him know that the big dog's here.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, how does this group look, Kevin? I mean, you've
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: been with the team for a minute now, so do
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you feel more excited than ever about what you see?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Talent wise?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It's exciting, it really is. And I know it's kind
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of an old cliche where everybody's excited for spring training
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and everybody has expectations, But I just feel like with
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the club we have and the way the ownership's kind
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of reinvested into the team, I think the sky's limb
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it we got we got a lot of good pieces here.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I think Naylor fitting in at first is gonna be
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: nice for us. And just I love how call me is,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you know. I think on the field you get a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: totally different Josh Naylor from what I've seen, But I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: think from how he is in the clubhouse and how
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: he treats other guys, it's it's nice. So I'm looking
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: forward to this year and obviously with Corbyn BYRNS signing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: with US as well. It's it's uh, kind of puts
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: us in a different category, and I think solidifies what
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: kind of expectations we can we can have and they're
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: pretty high.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: What's your role this year? What's your role?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You're gonna ask you that, No, because well, first of all,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: who's the closer? I have no clue.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: We'll see that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: So then that's why it leads me to what's your
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: role going to be? If you guys have options, I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: think I think how Toy is gonna line it up?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I think is he might have you know, Martinez close
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a game, or he might a bazillion have a puck, right,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you could have me, And it really is day to day, right,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So like how the bullpen gets used one game, you
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: know can effect going into the next game.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: So I, you know, do you prefer one? Maybe that
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: should be the question.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I would like to know who's going to close, so
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it kind of puts everybody else at ease.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Well, then that's my question because we've had you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: some teams are like, oh, it doesn't matter who closes,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: But every team I've been on, every person I usually
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: talk to that's in the game, you want to have
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: a defined role as a bullpend guy. You're the you're
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the closer, and then you work your way kind of
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: backwards from there. You have an eighth inning guy, you
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: have a lefty guy, you have a seventh inning guy,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: so you can get everything lined up for the closer
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: guy at the end.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: So for me, what what role?
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've I've had experience in a lot
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of different roles. I'm comfortable with with the eighth, you know, seventh.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Like I like coming into those spots. You know, whether
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it's the heart of the lineup coming up, and you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it turns it over to the eighth inning guy or
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the ninth inning guy and they maybe don't have to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: face like the heart of the order and it makes
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: getting those last threey outs in the game maybe a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: little bit easier on paper. But I you know, either way,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like I I love pitching in the ninth as well.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a great role and it's exciting.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: You know. Obviously there's there's pressure too.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: That you get paid more close exactly exactly, we all
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: we all know that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And so either way, I'd love to I'd love to
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: help in whatever ways. But you know, whoever, whoever is
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: going to get that role, I think we're gonna be
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be just fine.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: I know, a career seventh and eighth in in guy
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: in the bullpen never really got a ton of closing opportunities,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: and when he did get to close for like thirty games,
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: he's like, Wow, my body feels way better because either
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: I'm in the game because we're winning or I'm not.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: And rarely am I going like, oh, you know, we
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: could get you up, you know, oh no, they just
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: they protect the closer better. Do you feel like you
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: can stay healthier or even other pictures could stay healthier
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: if they were a defined closer role.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I I've absolutely cratzy. I think you notice it with
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the ninth inning guy right where if the game kind
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: of gets close, it becomes a two three run game.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: The closer is kind of getting ready to go mentally,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and then you know, if that eighth inning comes around
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and you know, we don't have to you know, pitch him,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: or we don't have to get them hot on the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: mound and maybe go in the game, and then the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: game switches and then we can avoid using them. You know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: those opportunities or those times when you have to get
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: hot in the bullpen are almost like pitching in a game, right,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: because you're trying to treat it and with the same
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: intensity and the same kind of energy, And so the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: wear and tear throughout the season can can play a
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: huge role in that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: So you know why closers are better because they don't
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: come out till the sixth inning. They're in their misk
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: getting massaged and yeah, eating grapes from the trainer.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, the seventh eighth inning, guys are out there in
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: the first or second and they all walk out like
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: ducks right in a lit They all have their backpacks.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I think closers in there. Oh you need to take
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: a nap, right, right, So that's why you want to
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: be the clothes To be serious, you want to be
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: the closer so you can take the nap for the
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: first three innings.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it is one hundred and sixty two games, right,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: so you know to find to find rest here and there.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It is hard to get. But I think, uh, yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like you notice it too, right, Like the guys that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: pitch in the middle of part of the game. You know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: they come out right in the first inning and we're rolling.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: So you know, I've seen, you know, all different guys
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: come through here where you know, one guy that came
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to mind right now is Mark Millanson, right, had a
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: really good career and I know he kind of struggled
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: with us, but I mean he he was so disciplined
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and like had an approaching what he was doing and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: there was a great intention with why why he was
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: doing it. So yeah, he was. He was the guy
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: where it's like, all right, I'm coming out in the fifth,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I can just go and you know, whenever, the whenever,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the ninth. Then he comes and it's close. I'm in there.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: So how much you love Arizona. I went to college
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: in Arizona. Now you're in Arizona full time. I love
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: it man, And you aren't. You're not from aras Yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: so you become adopted or I know, I.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Know, it's like the Southern California thing now right where
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of people from So cal are moving out
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: here and it's been it's been great, to be honest.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The summers have gotten tougher year by year. But you're inside, well,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I mean when you walk out to your cards one
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: hundred and ten degrees at nine o'clock, at night, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: so it's gotten I've really appreciated it more and more,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and I got a lot of friends out here now.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It makes a lot easier. And obviously a lot of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of big league guys live here in the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: offseason too, So I love it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It's it's a great place to be. I think now
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you're starting to see obviously more free agents want to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: come here and play here, So it's exciting.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: As you were talking about Southern California, I mean, can
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: you beat the A's, I mean the A's, Can you
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: beat beat the Dodgers?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Can you beat La? Of course?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I mean I I like to think every time we
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: play them, they they play a little bit tighter, you know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I I don't know how, you know, like what their
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: dynamic is, right, but you know their expectation is to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: win every game. And I think when when the lights
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: are on and we play those big games in the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: middle of the season, you know they're gonna give us
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: their a game and we're going to try and give ours.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: But we can beat those guys. Man, I feel very
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: lucky to be in the playoffs, you guys, right, And
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I think that kind of like set the tone for
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: what the future was gonna be right. So I think
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that time when we had that run in twenty twenty three,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it kind of shocked everyone because I think for a
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: long time we struggled against them, and to come into
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that series and kind of take it to them early on,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I think it just kind of set them back and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it shocked everyone, to be honest. But you know, we're
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I think we're a better team than what we were
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. And obviously they're really good too.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, you know, they're gonna we're gonna have our
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: work work cut out for us. But I like, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like how how it's sucked up?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Kevin, were you more surprised at how much they did
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: this past offseason, like adding Blake Snell and of course
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: recruiting rookie Sasaki or more surprised at how many teams
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: didn't go after some of the players that they were
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: able to pick up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of the question that's going around right like,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: how how come the Dodgers are getting all these you know,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: A plus free agents and and you know, whether it's
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a trade or a free agency, like they're getting these
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: top named guys and no one else really in the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: market is pursuing it and it's it's I will say
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it's frustrating. I think from a from an organization standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the front offices know what they're doing
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and they have, you know, a certain amount of money
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they can spend. But you know, it's just frustrating at
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: times where you see, you know, you got thirty teams
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and then a guy reaches free agency and then it
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: comes down to four or five and then you know
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the dodgers of the team usually that are going to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: pay a little bit more or offer a little bit more,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and usually you know that free agent is going to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: take it. So you know, obviously the deferred money thing
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: has been a topic as well, where you know they're
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they're putting all that money on the back end and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: right now they're just going all in, going all in
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  Speaker 1: to win. So you know, I like to I'd like
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to play spoiler with that. I love that. I think
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that's our man, Archie Bradley. There is he coming in
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  Speaker 1: for a trial. I don't know, That's why I was like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I saw him there for a second, I was like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: what's he doing here? But yeah, I'd love to play
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: spoiler spoiler against these guys, and you know it just
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I think it adds a little more fuel to.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: The fire for you just did okay too. I mean,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: you went out and got the arguably the best picture
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: on the free agent market. You went out and got
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Josh Naylor. And I know Christian Walker was a Stapley
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: for a long time. He left and you went out
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: and got a pretty good replacement in Josh Naylor. It's
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: not like you guys threw in the towel, but you
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: guys don't have a lot of positions you can needed
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to fill. I mean, you look at your infield, it's
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: pretty stacked. You go to the outfield, it's stack. You
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: go to the starting pitchers, it was already stacked. Your
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: relievers are set. It's not like you guys suck. You
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: won eighty nine games last year, I know, so it's
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: not like you needed Now. The Dodgers are just crazy
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: because they just go get everybody correct. But you guys
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: are already loaded for Baar and ready to go.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I think the other part of it too, is now,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: like I think when you go through a major league season,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you see when guys come up and down and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But to go through a spring training now this year
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: where we miss the playoffs, like we're coming in with
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a little chip on our shoulder. I think seeing the
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: depth we have, you know, from the position player standpoint,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and even from the bullpen right like I'm seeing some
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: guys come in and they're like ready to go, and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: it gets me excited because it's like, Okay, if something
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: if an InTru or to happen here there, like I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: know a guy or two can step in and fill
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  Speaker 1: that position, and so that gets me excited too. Where
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: it's like from a depth perspective, like we can fill
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  Speaker 1: a lot of holes, and you know, if something were
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to happen here there, we can we can handle.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: It all right. I just before we let you go
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  Speaker 4: real quick, who throws the hardest on your team?
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  Speaker 1: It's probably I mean, so yesterday during PFPS, we're doing
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  Speaker 1: we're doing all these drills right, all these situations, there's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: never a throw justin Martinez takes off, so like there's
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: a ball, like a bunp hit, he has to go
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  Speaker 1: to the third base side, throw a laser first Naylor's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: at first, he threw an absolute missile, and Naylor was
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: expecting it to maybe sink or whatever, and this ball
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  Speaker 1: just blew him up. Was not ready for it. And
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: so to me, like that guy has just in a
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: unique arm like he can just run it up however
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he wants. But yeah, I would say jam who was
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the kid who was one hundred and one, Well, Jamison
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: yesterday I saw he was throwing one hundred hundred and one.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He just came back from Tommy John too. So it
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: blows my mind seeing like and and and jmar was
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a guy who had Toarmy John a couple years ago
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  Speaker 1: too and is coming back. So it's like, is that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the magic?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: No, don't say that, No, it's not. He don't say no, no, no.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Ask Garrett Cole where he's feeling right right now? For sure.
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  Speaker 4: Let's let's not say that, please.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's funny, though Martinez has ride on his throats
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  Speaker 2: to first, so that that's it.
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  Speaker 4: I wish you would have known that before we talked
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: to Naylor, because we could have asked him about getting
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: blown up from like one hundred and twenty feet away
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: and not right cratzy, because like we're sixty feet away
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: and we get it in there and you know you'll
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: come in to dugout in the first basic clank clank,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and you're like, dude, you just got blown up from
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty feet away. Don't make fun of me, right, you.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Try it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Kevin, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Good to see you again.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Good luck the rest of camp in the year.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: One of my first verified followers, so I had to
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: follow him back. So so we got some there.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: You got something going on, yeah, So I love to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: catch with you guys at some point later in the years.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: For sure, love you.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: We will definitely send the invite out like last year.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Thanks Kevin, good talking to you.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you