Latest / The Piano Maven with Jed Distler / Frederic Rzewski's "The People United Will Never Be Defeated!"
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- 0:00This is Jed Dissler and welcome to the Piano Maven, your friendly podcast guide to piano
- 0:15recordings.
- 0:16I don't engage in politics on this podcast, but when it comes to this year's presidential
- 0:23election, I can't think of a more appropriate composition than the late Frederik Zewski's
- 0:3036 variations on the Sergio Ortega Chilean resistance anthem, El Pueblo Unido Jamás
- 0:37Serra Vincido, The People United Will Never Be Defeated.
- 0:43This set of variations is an eclectic virtuoso tour de force that takes both pianist and
- 0:50listener on a journey through what amounts to being a history of the piano, from romantic
- 0:58etude-like variations to thorny dissonance and haunting minimalism, from blues and folk
- 1:05songs to grim marches.
- 1:07The 36 variations fall into groups of six and are actually rather rigorously constructed.
- 1:15Back in 2015, I presented an episode of my weekly radio show Between the Keys that I
- 1:22devoted to The People United to mark this work's 40th anniversary of its composition.
- 1:30It was written in 1975.
- 1:33My guest on the program was pianist Ursula Oppens, for whom Frederik Zewski composed
- 1:40The People United, and she also was the pianist who gave this work its world premiere in Washington,
- 1:47D.C. in 1976.
- 1:50I have posted a link to that episode in my podcast description so that you can hear extended
- 1:58excerpts from the work along with an interview that I did with Ursula Oppens.
- 2:04And also on this program, I give a spoken overview about the work.
- 2:08I've also posted a link to the booklet notes that I wrote about The People United for the
- 2:15recording made by Marc-Andre Hamelin for the Hyperion label.
- 2:20So with all of these links handy, I'm not going to talk about this composition in detail,
- 2:27but since The People United has been recorded numerous times, and because I'm writing a
- 2:34comprehensive guide to The People United on disc for International Piano Magazine, I thought
- 2:41I would talk about just a few recorded versions that might help you get started to appreciate
- 2:48this work.
- 2:49And also the versions I'm going to be talking about have gained some semblance of critical
- 2:55consensus over the years.
- 2:57However, my article is going to cover each and every People United recording in detail.
- 3:04So watch out for that.
- 3:06And I promise that I'm not going to be talking about each and every recording on this episode.
- 3:13If I did, we'd wind up with a two-hour podcast, and I don't think you want that.
- 3:18So I'm just going to talk about a few recordings, and thank you for understanding.
- 3:24Now just as a little aside, when I first proposed writing a discographical overview of The People
- 3:32United many years ago for Gramophone Magazine, Fredric Jewski was still around.
- 3:39And because Fredric and I were great friends and that he was my frequent house guest, we
- 3:45would always have long conversations.
- 3:48And we played some concerts together on two pianos.
- 3:52And when he visited and stayed at my apartment, we often would show each other our compositions
- 3:59in progress, and we sometimes would play four hands.
- 4:03We'd read through orchestra works and four-hand arrangements.
- 4:07And Fredric was just the most incredible sight reader, by the way.
- 4:11Anyway, I was thinking about doing this overview about People United recordings, and I actually
- 4:18proposed to Fredric that we could collaborate on a written overview that I was going to
- 4:26do for Gramophone about all of The People United recordings.
- 4:31Or maybe at least he could offer his comments on certain recordings, because we often did
- 4:37have conversations about these recordings, and he did talk about which ones he liked
- 4:43and which ones he liked less.
- 4:46So I had the idea to do something along the lines of, you know, when Igor Stravinsky reviewed
- 4:53three different recordings of The Rite of Spring.
- 4:57And that's a very famous and interesting article.
- 5:00It's famous for Stravinsky's concluding line, which was something to the effect of, none
- 5:07of these three recordings are worthy of preservation.
- 5:11Unfortunately, Fredric died before he and I could finally get together on our Shefsky
- 5:20Review Shefsky project.
- 5:23But over the years, I did take note of what he liked and what he didn't like.
- 5:30Not that I always agreed with him on these points, I should add.
- 5:34So let's go to the recordings and to quote the opening line of Dylan Thomas's Under
- 5:39Milkwood, to begin at the beginning.
- 5:44Fredric made the very first recording of The People United.
- 5:48It was released in 1977 on the small Italian label Edizioni Cultura Populare.
- 5:57I've never heard this recording, and only recently I noticed that it had been uploaded
- 6:05to a blog, sometime around 2014, but the recording was deleted from this blog long before I could
- 6:12download it.
- 6:14So if there are any piano maven listeners who have access to this recording, I would
- 6:20be very curious and grateful to at least hear it.
- 6:24Eventually, Shefsky did re-record The People United, and I'm going to get to his re-recordings
- 6:31in a little bit.
- 6:33But I will mention Ursula Oppen's 1979 recording for Vanguard.
- 6:39It remains a really excellent version, absolutely solid from top to bottom.
- 6:46The pianism is as secure and as masterful as you would expect from this fantastic artist.
- 6:53It does not have an improvised cadenza, mainly because, as Ursula told me, there simply was
- 7:00not room for one given the limitations of the LP.
- 7:05But this was the recording that most people imprinted on in the early 1980s, and it was
- 7:12available for a while on LP, and it's had some CD incarnations.
- 7:18Mark Andre Hamelin recorded The People United for Altaris in the late 1980s.
- 7:24This recording was never released, by the way.
- 7:28However, Mark's 1997 Hyperion recording raised the bar in many respects for sheer pianistic
- 7:38proficiency.
- 7:39Now, Frederick told me that he thought that Mark underplayed the march rhythms, but I
- 7:45don't agree with that.
- 7:46I think Mark's marching is perfectly fine.
- 7:51Maybe at times the phrasing can be rounded off to a fault, particularly in variations
- 7:57that resemble folk songs, where personally I play these themes in a more plain-spoken,
- 8:05less inflected way.
- 8:07Mark kind of prettifies them a little bit, but I have to tell you that this is an aesthetic
- 8:13choice and it is not a fault by any means.
- 8:18His command and his authority and his extraordinary virtuosity really speak for themselves.
- 8:27He also has the benefit of great engineering.
- 8:31And I wrote the booklet notes, I should tell you.
- 8:34I did tell you that before.
- 8:35Oh, I do have to tell you that Mark also plays a wonderful and really creative cadenza before
- 8:43the theme comes back at the end.
- 8:46Igor Levitt got lots of attention a few years back when he released a triple album on Sony
- 8:54Classical that consisted of three big variation sets, the Bach-Golberg variations, the Beethoven-Debelli
- 9:01variations and Szefsky's People United.
- 9:06I like Igor Levitt's People United a lot.
- 9:09The really difficult variations pose absolutely no problems for Igor Levitt's fingers and
- 9:18he also understands that the march rhythms and variations like number 26 and similar
- 9:25places benefit from a steady and resolute gait.
- 9:30And I've heard some pianists accelerate these for effect and that's just plain wrong.
- 9:36And also Igor Levitt plays a brilliant cadenza.
- 9:40I don't know if he wrote it out or he improvised it, but it's really terrific.
- 9:45If I had to make one quibble, and this is really a half quibble or a one-third quibble,
- 9:54sometimes I want to hear more textural differentiation in thicker contrapuntal passages such as in
- 10:02variation number eight.
- 10:04And in this variation, I think Ursula Oppens and Szefsky himself clarify the counterpoint
- 10:11to a more effective degree and sometimes Igor Levitt tapers the theme when it comes back
- 10:18at different places.
- 10:19If it was by Grieg or Chopin, I mean you don't need hairpins.
- 10:24I would just play the theme plain.
- 10:27And you know, I've heard quite a few performances of People United by young pianists who automatically
- 10:33apply generic expressive devices throughout and you know it's kind of like a one-size-fits-all
- 10:41kind of rubato and you know just don't get me started on that.
- 10:44But Igor Levitt is absolutely world-class in People United.
- 10:50However, there was one recent recording that in many respects is very unidiomatic, but
- 11:00I found it really riveting.
- 11:03Although most of the recordings we have of People United differ in detail from Szefsky's
- 11:10own performance, they all seem to use Szefsky's self-interpretation as a frame of reference
- 11:18or at least a jumping off point.
- 11:20However, the recording by Vadim Kolodenko for Harmonia Mundi entirely goes its own way
- 11:28in terms of tempo, phrasing, accent, and dynamics.
- 11:34And it's essentially a pianistically oriented conception that draws attention to itself
- 11:41for sheer virtuosity and prowess and coloristic potential.
- 11:46One very telling example of this is the really soft suppleness of Kolodenko's staccato articulation
- 11:54in the virtuosic fourth section of Variations.
- 11:59There's also a wide degree of tempo fluctuation and fanciful pedaling as if Ignaz Friedman
- 12:06had pushed Szefsky off of the piano bench.
- 12:10The introspective Variation 27, I think Kolodenko plays way the hell too fast.
- 12:17But then again, the last six Variations, which can often seem forced and tacked on, have
- 12:26a kind of uncommon urgency and an intense sense of build that leads into this really
- 12:34awesome improvised cadenza.
- 12:37I have a feeling that Szefsky would have really liked this recording because once when I asked
- 12:44Frederick, do you ever get sick and tired of so many people playing and recording the
- 12:48people united, especially when you have so much other piano music out there that doesn't
- 12:53get equal attention?
- 12:55He said to me that he only wanted to hear a young pianist play People United if they
- 13:02brought something new and original to the interpretation.
- 13:06And certainly Vadim Kolodenko's People United doesn't sound anything like the other versions
- 13:13in the catalog, so I have to give him propers for that.
- 13:17However, you cannot discuss the People United without looking in on Szefsky's own 1986 recording
- 13:27that appeared on the Hat Art label.
- 13:30He personally complained about this recording when I asked him about it because I think
- 13:35he had issues with the sound quality.
- 13:38I don't know.
- 13:39I think it sounds perfectly fine.
- 13:41I mean the microphone placement is a little close, but I think that only helps to underline
- 13:47the forthrightness and the strong rhythmic impact of Szefsky's playing.
- 13:53Also he voices chords in a way where the harmonies really sing out and of course his own fantastic
- 14:01improvising in the cadenza.
- 14:04His recording of People United from the late 1990s that was released on Nonsuch is not
- 14:11as strong technically from a pianistic standpoint and the energy seems to flag toward the end.
- 14:18But Frederick told me that this was a one take performance.
- 14:22He just played the piece straight through and that you're supposed to feel exhausted
- 14:26by the end.
- 14:27I mean you can't deny the authenticity that, you know, having the composer at the piano,
- 14:34but I think his 1986 Hat Art recording preserves Frederick's interpretation in his best pianistic
- 14:42estate and there are many live performances of Frederick playing the People United that
- 14:47are floating around the internet.
- 14:50And there's also a video that was officially released that's basically a straight through
- 14:55warts and all performance.
- 14:58But I'm saving the best for last perhaps when I talk about Ursula Oppens and her 2014 remake
- 15:07of the People United that came out on the Chicago Sede label.
- 15:12I prefer this to her 1979 recording.
- 15:17First of all the sound is better and her dynamic range opens up so much more.
- 15:22I think she's a lot more daring and she reveals more of Frederick's voice leading from variation
- 15:30to variation.
- 15:32You really get a sense of where the counterpoint is moving.
- 15:36And she makes a big difference between Variation 15's folk-like simplicity and Variation 16's
- 15:46elaboration.
- 15:48And the jagged Variation 19 that usually gets banged out and hits you over the head becomes
- 15:56something more playful and acerbic in Ursula Oppens' hands.
- 16:02Also her improvised cadenza is lovely.
- 16:05It's more lyrical and contained than the wilder, more show-offy specimens in the catalog.
- 16:13But I think it's entirely appropriate because her cadenza really helps to set up the theme's
- 16:20reinstatement at the very end.
- 16:23So which of these versions of the People United to have if you're going to have more than
- 16:29one or only one?
- 16:31I would definitely try to hear them all.
- 16:34And as I said at the beginning of this podcast, there are quite a few worthy contenders that
- 16:40I did not discuss, but I will be covering them in my International Piano article about
- 16:48every recording ever made of the People United.
- 16:51For those who really care about this work, I would definitely recommend trying to find
- 16:57Szefsky's own 1986 Hat Art recording.
- 17:02I don't know if it's easily available in physical format, so you're probably going to have to
- 17:08hunt around for it.
- 17:10But overall, the pianistic mastery and the musical authenticity and the mix of intuition
- 17:19and insight that informs Ursula Oppen's 2014 recording for Sidi, I think ultimately adds
- 17:29up to a first choice.
- 17:32This is Jed Disler, and you've been listening to the Piano Maven, your friendly podcast
- 17:37guide to piano recordings.
- 17:41Thank you for listening, and I look forward to being with you for our next episode.
- 17:47Take care.