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Michigan Star Derrick Moore Says OSU's National Title 'No real win' · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to a very special live episode of
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyees Tomorrow Morning for Friday, July twenty fifth. Them your
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  Speaker 1: oh dot com. I'm joined by Tony Gerderman of Buckehddle
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Tony, we just wrapped up day three of
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  Speaker 1: Big ten media Days. Day one was the Ohio State Day,
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  Speaker 1: Day two was the Penn State and Oregon Day, and
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  Speaker 1: then day three was you know, there are other teams here,
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  Speaker 1: but day three was the Michigan Day. Lots of interview
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  Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. We're going to talk about a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of it, but I did want to start with
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  Speaker 1: kind of the news of the day, which I think
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  Speaker 1: this is something that people are going to get all
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  Speaker 1: stirred up about and it's interesting, and it was someone
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  Speaker 1: who said something interesting and that was Michigan defensive end
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  Speaker 1: Derek Moore, and he was asked just sort of about
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  Speaker 1: it was essentially about watching Ohio State's national championship and
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  Speaker 1: you know what what what you what were you thinking?
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  Speaker 1: Is you're watching this and and his his answer was
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  Speaker 1: very interesting. I'm and I'm sure there's gonna be Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna take it out of context. You're you're blowing
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  Speaker 1: this up. We're just gonna we have the video clip.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna play the video clip for you right now
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  Speaker 1: so you can hear exactly what Derek Moore had to say.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, first, I'd like to you know, I could congratulate
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  Speaker 2: them on a win, but you know, you know it's
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  Speaker 2: not a real win if you if you'll beat us,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, but I'm gonna congratulate them when they win.
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  Speaker 2: But this year is gonna be different.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. You know, as far as trash
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  Speaker 1: talk goes, that's not the most inflammatory thing anyone's ever said.
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  Speaker 1: And I also feel like there's a delicate balance here
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  Speaker 1: between Hey, someone said something interesting and also you know
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to be like, how dare you say that?
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  Speaker 1: Because if as soon as you how dare you say that?
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  Speaker 1: You get, you get a lot of got to take
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  Speaker 1: it one game at the times and then you complain
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  Speaker 1: about that. So to me, you win the game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: talk your mess.
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  Speaker 3: Well and ensuring more called.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I have reaction. Yeah do we want
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  Speaker 1: to sure? Okay, we'll play yeah, yeah, no, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't do we didn't do much show preps so
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  Speaker 1: this so yeah, we have been working. So I'll just
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  Speaker 1: right now, I'll just play the I'll play the Sharon
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  Speaker 1: More clip. Reacting to the Derek Moore thing. I think
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  Speaker 1: one of the most telling things is just watch his
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  Speaker 1: face at the beginning of this.
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  Speaker 4: Try to try to click bait the players. Uh, they won,
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  Speaker 4: They won the national title. They were the best team
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the year. So I give them
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  Speaker 4: all the credit that they give. They were well deserving.
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  Speaker 4: They played really well and obviously won. They won it all,
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  Speaker 4: so you know, kudos to them.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is, Sean Moore says that players are trying
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  Speaker 3: to be click baited. The player could have just said
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  Speaker 3: exactly what sir Moore said. So Derek Derek Moore shared
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  Speaker 3: his thoughts, and we want that, we want players to
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  Speaker 3: be open and honest. We talked about the media days
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  Speaker 3: being where coaches will bring the players who won't say anything,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the worst. So when when players say something,
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  Speaker 3: it's free to talk, it's fun to talk about. We
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't vilify them. Yeah, you know, we're just we're have
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  Speaker 3: something to talk about. That is what we're looking for.
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  Speaker 3: That's the point of media days is to have something
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  Speaker 3: to talk about. So, you know, Derek Moore, I am
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  Speaker 3: confused by at the end what Derek Derek Moore said, like,
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to happen this year. It's gonna be different.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be different this year. And that the I
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  Speaker 1: mean my interpretation of that. He didn't go on to
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  Speaker 1: you know, talk about a million you know, but it
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  Speaker 1: was my interpretivation of that was certainly they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to win the national championship this year, which you know,
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  Speaker 1: you this is this is uh, you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: talking the season, but this is also optimism season. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, ask ask any of probably seven teams in there,
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna win the national championship and you're gonna hear,
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  Speaker 1: well we are, So okay. I took that as you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't I didn't take that as Derek Moorworth predicting
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  Speaker 1: that Ohio State was going to be Michigan this year.
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  Speaker 1: I predicted. I took that as Derek Warr predicting that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, presumably Michigan would win the national championship, but
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  Speaker 1: that Ohio State would not.
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  Speaker 3: That makes more sense. See, I was not thinking that
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  Speaker 3: because I have not thought that Michigan, you know, would
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  Speaker 3: be winning the national championship. And when you say it's
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  Speaker 3: there's optimism, that's me sounding like pessimism because he's saying,
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  Speaker 3: sorry about your news. You lock Ohio State, You're not
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  Speaker 3: going to do it this year. But yes, he's saying,
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  Speaker 3: Michigan is going to win it, win it all. So okay,
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  Speaker 3: all right, the controversy ended.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. So, and I'm guessing as we pick
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  Speaker 1: up some more folks, we'll probably play those again later
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  Speaker 1: and let everyone because here's what we want to do.
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  Speaker 1: We want to let you watch it and you can
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  Speaker 1: decide what you think of it on your own. We
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  Speaker 1: don't want to try and sum it up or share
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  Speaker 1: our you know, our spin on it.
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  Speaker 3: It's not an uncommon thought from north of the Ohio border, though,
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  Speaker 3: where it's it's tainted because you didn't win that game.
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  Speaker 3: How many how many national championships does Nick Saban have
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  Speaker 3: with losses to Auburn or you know, there are plenty
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  Speaker 3: of national championships that are celebrated with a loss to
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  Speaker 3: the Arrival. And yeah, everybody at Ohio State wishes they
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  Speaker 3: had a pair of gold pants from last year, but
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  Speaker 3: they wouldn't trade that for the national title that they were.
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  Speaker 3: They there's it's not as grand as it could be,
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  Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean it's not grand, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you go through, you go through the
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  Speaker 1: memories of last season and what is it What is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the takeaway from last season? You go
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  Speaker 1: through now and you know, we were talking to Oregon
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  Speaker 1: folks this week and it's like, boy, Oregon had the
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  Speaker 1: incredible regular season and then the season ended with a thud.
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  Speaker 1: And it's very hard to look past the way the
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  Speaker 1: season ended. And if Ohio State season had ended with
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  Speaker 1: the Michigan game, or this had been a you know
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  Speaker 1: season in the nineties where it's the top two and
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  Speaker 1: they get in and that's it, then yeah, that season
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  Speaker 1: is remembered very differently, and that is the defining game
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  Speaker 1: of the season. But then you go past and it
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  Speaker 1: would be hard to say that the Michigan game was
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  Speaker 1: a more defining game in that season, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: some ways in terms of how people are going to
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  Speaker 1: remember the season than the Rose Bowl, than the Cotton Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: then the National Championship game.
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  Speaker 3: I viewed the Ohio State two thousand and four season
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  Speaker 3: as a successful season because of the way it ended.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's that's kind of how Michigan. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Moore talked a bunch about how different the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season was than the beginning of the season,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean that was a team that was what
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  Speaker 1: six and five at one point something like that, and
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  Speaker 1: then they finished the way they finished, where they beat
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, they go to the whatever they call the
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  Speaker 1: outback ball now and they beat Alabama, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: they beat Northwestern the week before that. So yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: finished what eight and five, but they were five and
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  Speaker 1: five before that, you know, your five and five team,
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  Speaker 1: and then you finish eight and five, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in that span is when Bryce Underwood flipped from
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  Speaker 1: LSU to Michigan. And it's like, boy life looks a
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  Speaker 1: lot different than an Harbor than it did on you know,
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  Speaker 1: November November fifteenth or so. Last year, coming off of
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  Speaker 1: that lost to Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: I was asking a couple of the Oregon Ducks players,
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  Speaker 3: yesterday was last year a successful season? And they would
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  Speaker 3: you know. One guy had to think about it and
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  Speaker 3: it was like, you know, it didn't end the way
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  Speaker 3: we wanted. But Kenyon Sadika ted End was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we need to recognize that we came into the Big Ten,
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  Speaker 3: we won the Big Ten, went to the playoffs. Didn't
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  Speaker 3: end the way you wanted, But I think we do
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  Speaker 3: need to recognize that not everything should be judged by
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  Speaker 3: a national championship, and you can do things outside of
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  Speaker 3: the national championship. And that's I think surround More and
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  Speaker 3: his team winning those three in a row and More question, fine,
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  Speaker 3: but you finish up three and oh with the Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State and the Alabama win. Where you were questioning Utahn specifically,
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  Speaker 3: we're questioning exactly where the program was going. And he
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  Speaker 3: had Sean had a good quote in there about like
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  Speaker 3: why that happened and how it happened, And basically that's
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  Speaker 3: when you know who you are as a team and players.
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  Speaker 3: That's where you know kind of the intestinal fortitude. It's
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  Speaker 3: like you don't know that from being fifteen to oh,
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  Speaker 3: fifteen to oh is great. I want to be fifteen
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  Speaker 3: and oh again. But you learn who you are when
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  Speaker 3: you're five and five and how you finished through that.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah you can if you just are rolling
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  Speaker 1: the all season, like that's a real fun season, but
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  Speaker 1: you got to you know, I think you've learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot about who the Ohio State team was in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and two, where yeah, they went fourteen and O,
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  Speaker 1: but man, oh man, there was plenty of adversity in
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  Speaker 1: that season. You kind of saw a lot about that,
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  Speaker 1: and you're generally to have at least some adversity. It's
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  Speaker 1: very rare that you have a season ninety five. Nebraska
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  Speaker 1: is one of few that that is sort of the exception,
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  Speaker 1: where you just roll people all season and you have
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  Speaker 1: no games that are closer than I think maybe Kansas
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  Speaker 1: State was the only game as closer than two touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: that year two thousand and one. Miami was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like that. They might have had one close game, but
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  Speaker 1: it was you know, they just rolled people. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the norm. That's and that's absolutely not gonna be the
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  Speaker 1: norm now because with as difficult as you run through
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  Speaker 1: the postseason is if you know, you can have a
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  Speaker 1: successful season without winning the national championship. If you win
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  Speaker 1: the national championship with what you've got to do to
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  Speaker 1: win the national championship. Now, it's impossible though, for that
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  Speaker 1: to be other than anything other than a spectacular success.
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  Speaker 1: So do you want to get to the super chat
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  Speaker 1: from TK Do you guys recall any outlandish player hype
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  Speaker 1: from previous Big Ten media days that never came close
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  Speaker 1: to fruition? And I asked for like clarity in terms
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  Speaker 1: of what type of player hype, and he said, player
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  Speaker 1: X is going to be all Big Ten, but player
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  Speaker 1: X was not an impact type of.
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  Speaker 3: Here's one that I never Gabrell prep Jabrill Peppers, and
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  Speaker 3: that'd be an All American first round draft pick. I
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  Speaker 3: think he won the Thorpe maybe or he won one
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  Speaker 3: of those defensive awards. Was not a great defensive back,
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  Speaker 3: was not a had one interception in his career. But
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  Speaker 3: like that's that's just me personally thinking that this is
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  Speaker 3: the person a player that was kind of overblown based
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  Speaker 3: on the scheme that they were in. You know, Jordan
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  Speaker 3: Kovacs had a bunch of stats too. Yeah, at tackles
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  Speaker 3: for loss because of the system. But in terms of this, like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't did Anthony Morelli ever come to Big N media day.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you have guys who you hear a lot
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  Speaker 1: about over the years, and the production doesn't necessarily translate
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  Speaker 1: to the field. I'm not coming up with any incredible
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  Speaker 1: examples right now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they're Downovan Edwards.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, while.
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  Speaker 3: We're stilling the topic of Michigan. Yeah, he was here
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  Speaker 3: last year.
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  Speaker 1: I believe, Yes, I believe he was, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: he was on the cover of the game. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: you look at his career, and his career was defined
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  Speaker 1: by the two long runs against Ohio State in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two where Ohio States and basically essentially a goal
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  Speaker 1: line defense try and stop a third and short, fourth
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  Speaker 1: and short whatever it was, and you break through and
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  Speaker 1: there's no one there. And then he had like one
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  Speaker 1: long run against Washington the National Championship. And outside of that,
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of three yards of carry in
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  Speaker 1: his career, and you know, that doesn't take away from
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  Speaker 1: the big moments, but you're also you know, remember Francisco
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  Speaker 1: Cabrera for the UH for the Braves back in the
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  Speaker 1: early nineties where he had the game winning hit to
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  Speaker 1: send the Brave to the World Series in in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety two. You can't take that a game well, you
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  Speaker 1: can't take that away from him, But that also doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean he should be on the front of the video game.
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  Speaker 1: So you you know, he wasn't he wasn't a bad player,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't a bust, but he also never really lived.
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  Speaker 1: You would have expected more from the guy who was
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  Speaker 1: on the cover of the first video game. But you
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  Speaker 1: might say the same thing about when you weres last
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  Speaker 1: year too.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean in terms of like Ohio State, let's
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  Speaker 3: make this an Ohio State answer. Who Terrelle Pryor was
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  Speaker 3: never all Big ten? Yeah, and that's he played four
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  Speaker 3: years at Ohio State. Well, three years at Ohio State,
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  Speaker 3: and he was a never one recruit in the nation
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  Speaker 3: and it was never all Big ten. And you can't say, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's because he played in Jim Trussel's offense. Well, I
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  Speaker 3: saw Troy Smith win Heisman. Wouldn't be shocked if ted
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  Speaker 3: Todd Beckman was first team All Big Ten in two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and seven. So like or probably maybe Chad Henney
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  Speaker 3: at that point, as a senior.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have a Gore Tood seven.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's the Anthony Morelli. Yeah, but like Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: has those guys as well. And I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that Durell Prior was ever here because he
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  Speaker 3: would have been a junior in twenty ten. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if if he was there, but I think that's
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  Speaker 3: one that Lidel Ross after his freshman year. Now we're
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  Speaker 3: going back ways. Yeah, yeah. Are there any Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: players that you can.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you can. I can think of lots of
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  Speaker 1: ug guys who were well, you can think of lots
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  Speaker 1: of guys who were five star recruits who didn't pan
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  Speaker 1: out and sometimes it was injury, like a guy like
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  Speaker 1: like DeAndrea someone like that. Justin's Wick was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like that. I don't think justin's Wick ever came to
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  Speaker 1: Big ten media days that because he wouldn't been the
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  Speaker 1: starter that late in his career. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that it's a Big ten media day specific thing with
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State guys. You know, you have you also have
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  Speaker 1: guys who took a while to get there. Curtis Brant,
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  Speaker 1: for example, was like the number two player in the country.
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  Speaker 1: And for two and a half or so years did
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  Speaker 1: basically nothing at Ohio State and then had a really
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  Speaker 1: good senior season at Ohio State. But that's you know
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  Speaker 1: that that was one where you kind of took a while.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna go back to Sammy Moldonado five star running back,
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  Speaker 1: like never did anything in enead of transferring to Maryland.
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  Speaker 3: I think and I think you finally rushed for a
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  Speaker 3: thousand yards at Maryland.
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  Speaker 1: You might have, yeah, but you know, every school has these.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm really struggling to think of guys who
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  Speaker 1: were this This is one that with with an hour
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  Speaker 1: of prep, I'm sure we could have called it that's
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  Speaker 1: a show. I'm sure we could have come up with
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  Speaker 1: a list of like the player at every position who
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  Speaker 1: would have been you know, who would have been been better.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, and you also have guys with injury
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  Speaker 1: like Will Johnson had you know, missed a ton of
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  Speaker 1: time last year because of injury, and you know, was
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  Speaker 1: was in the like top five draft pick kind of
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  Speaker 1: conversation and then just he has like a degenerative knee condition,
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  Speaker 1: and so you know that was not like, oh he's
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  Speaker 1: a bust. It's just like yeah, sometimes your body kind
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  Speaker 1: of fails you so.
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  Speaker 3: Involved in that top out of five hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 3: yards of Maryland. So there you go, but a thousand
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  Speaker 3: career yards, That's what I said. Is that all right?
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  Speaker 1: There you go, so hopefully that hopefully that covers your Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he says, that question pupped pupped in my head. Of
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  Speaker 1: those listening to some of the coaches talk about their team,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, this is this is for sure optimism season
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  Speaker 1: for everyone where every you know, I think I said
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  Speaker 1: this earlier on one of the other shows, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: you listen to everyone talk and it's like, I think
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  Speaker 1: the Big Ten is going to be like thirty games
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  Speaker 1: over five hundred against itself this year. It's like, well
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  Speaker 1: that's not mathematically possible. But every you know, everyone is
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  Speaker 1: gonna win nine games except for the ones that are
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  Speaker 1: gonna go undefeated and win the national championship. And there's
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  Speaker 1: you know, Purdue, like bullying. You know, Purdue is going
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  Speaker 1: to have a terrible season. They might only win eight.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look what Northwestern did and David Brown's
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  Speaker 3: first year after the bath Fitzgerlode thing, and then they
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  Speaker 3: dropped back to four to eight last year. I assume
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna be similar to fourn eight. But I thought
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  Speaker 3: they were going to be four and eight when they
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  Speaker 3: went eight, four ninety three whatever, yeah, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, five whatever was ask me what I thought Indian
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  Speaker 1: was going to do last year? We walked out of
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  Speaker 1: here real bullish in any of you thinking about this.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti is acting like he knows something. They might
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: they might make a bowl. I mean, if things break
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: exactly right, they might make a bowl, maybe even get
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: to seven and you make the pin Stripe Bowl. I mean, boy,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: that would be a historic season for Indiana. And we
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: all see how that turned out. Didn't make a bowl
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: again technically, trum. So let's hit on a couple other
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: things from the interviews with Michigan players and with Sharon Moore,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: the and sorry, we've got a scissor lift going past us.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, this is not a buck Eye Weekly episode,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: but it sounds like a Buckeye Weekly episode. So yes,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: And we're in a hotel hallway and there's a scissor
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: lyft going by. Why wouldn't there be Vegas? Baby, Ah,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas unless you're live
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: streaming and which just goes everywhere, all right, So where
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: was I going? Scissor lyft the There was a couple
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: of different topics with Searon Moore with Michigan players. One
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: of them was Bryce Underwood. Bryce Underwood was a very
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: hot topic Searan Moore insisting that the quarterback battle is
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: wide open. There's really has not been decided. Bryce Underwood
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Mikey Keane, we'll see. We talked a bunch this morning
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: about how the different ways that could play out for
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Michigan this year. But I was with Max Brettison, the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: tight end for Michigan. For his full interview. I don't
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: know which of the players you were with. Were you
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: were kind of bouncing around with them working?
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I was with Max Bretison, so he's he was
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the offensive representative for Michigan, and he got asked about
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood a ton, and every answer about Bryce Underwood
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: started with his maturity, his approach, his his his mindset
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: going into things, how he's you know, he's coming in
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and he's not you know, he's not like seeking approval.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: He's just kind of like he's going he's already kind
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: of got a little bit of a veteran mindset. I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: also asked him, like, okay, so we've forgard so much
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: about his mindset. It's approach, all that kind of stuff.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I've heard he has some pretty impressive physical school and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like, oh yeah, Like I mean,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it was you know, he said, there's been there's been
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: some wow moments for him, just I mean kind of
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the throws he can make, and you know, the arm
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: strength and how he moves, and he said, and he's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: like the size of a defensive end. I mean, he's
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a big dude already too. So you know, he doesn't
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: look like a freshman, doesn't act like a freshman. You
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: still would assume there are going to be plenty of
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: freshmen moments for him as he goes. But one thing
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that Sean Moore talked about with Underwood but also with
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys is how much they've been
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: reshaping their bodies. And you know, this is this is
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: like the equivalent of baseball spring training, where everyone's in
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the best shape of their lives. But you know, he
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: was talking about some specific numbers where you saw really
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: like meaningful changes in guys, and I think that that's
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: probably you know, Bryce Underwood is kind of that first
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: year in college you're you know, in a college strength program.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: He came to me Chigan in better shape than you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: used to see freshmen come to campus in. But you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: also are probably really reshaping your body once you get
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in that college nutrition program, in the college drink program.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said. Sharon Mooer said that Bryce Underwood's up
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: to two thirty from two fifteen. Maybe in the spring.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: The winter spring roster lists in at two eight, but
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: he said he's cut fat and he's stronger, and he
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: looks good. That's why six four thirty. That used to
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: be what the defensive ends look like, you know, when
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Sharon Mohre was playing, and some still do now that
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the defenses are getting smaller as well. But I saw
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: him at a high school camp and you knew, could
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: you could one of those guys that you could just
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: tell that they're different. Is his football looks different than
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: everybody else is at the camp. And still he said
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: he's gonna nothing's gonna be given to him, and he
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: doesn't want anything given to him. And you're talking about
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: the maturity. So many times I've heard Sharan Moore talk
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: about him. He also credits Bryce Underwards parents for the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: way he's been brought up and for the way he's
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: not just looking for things to be given to him,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: especially in this age of the high school quarterback in
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the quarterback dad, quarterback dad, where it's like, why is
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: my son not playing? And yeah, so now we'll see
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: if Mikey King is completing fifty two percent of his
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: passes through six games and Bryce Enderwood was only playing sparingly,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: then we might see my kid playing.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but so far, so good there on the maturity front.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he was asked, I think about at one
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: point the NIL piece of that, and you know there
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: have been he sort of poop pooed some of the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: numbers that are out there a little bit. But whatever
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the NIL package was, it was generous, which is you know, legal,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that, but you do run into
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't make your playing time decisions based
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on the size of the NL package, but you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you do wonder, you know, And he talked about the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: h the donors are not going to look at this
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and go, well, he's not playing week three, I want
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: my money.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Back, right, But there is the thought where if you're
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: not playing him does does that bum him out at
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: some point? And it's like you've you've broken your promise
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: to me, like the NCAA video video game. You've my problem.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: You broke my promise. I'm heading to the portal that
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: you're like, I don't expect that to happen. Plus, I
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: don't know what these contracts look like anymore where play
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: freedom of movement, movement for the players. But uh, there's
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: gonna be some money owed if you do choose to leave.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we're not there by any stretch of the imagination.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I think did we come to the conclusion that it's
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: better for Mikey Keen to play until I.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Think I think there's it makes a lot of sense
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to have Mikey Keane start the season and you work
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood and you use, you have some packages for him.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: He's gonna you you tell him he's gonna have the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: third drive of the game. Whatever it is like you
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: work them in there. It's very it would be very
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: hard to have Bryce Underwood start and then go, yeah,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: this isn't really working because it's a true freshman. It
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: might not work right away. That's how it is. And
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you have losable games early. You have Oklahoma week two,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you're at Oklahoma, you have at Nebraska week four. Those
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: are losable games, not that they're going to lose them necessarily,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: but they're losable. You if you have a true freshman
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: out there and you have to yank them, that's a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: much bigger confidence issue. Then hey, we're going to work
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it in. We're going to be brought in a veteran
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: guy to be a veteran guy and to start to play,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and we'll work it in as it goes. And it's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: much easier to pull Mikey Keane out when you're sure
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood is ready to really be the full time guy,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and maybe that's week two, and maybe that's week four,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and maybe that's you know, their fifth game, which comes
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: after an off week like that would be a very
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: logical time to put him in. You play your first
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: four games with kind of both guys, then you have
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a week call where you can really just kind of
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: give him all the one you know, the reps, with
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the ones in practice and sort of hand the brains
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: over there. That makes sense to me. You know, if
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: he takes your on board as ward, they really don't
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: know what they're going to do yet, so you know
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: they're they would be guessing like we are.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: We talked this morning about projecting freshman numbers and I
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: threw in the Dylan Raila from last year as overenders.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that same show, but this one.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I was thinking, you know, Chad Henny.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Two thousand and four as a true thousand and.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Four as a true freshman, twenty seven and forty three yards,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: twenty five touchdowns, twelve twelve interceptions started. I think he
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: started every game, and I think these are all high
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: for Bryce Underwood. I was thinking, was he the last
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: true freshman quarterback to start at Michigan?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And then I remember Tom q QB force.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: QB force take for c A two thousand and nine. Now,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: maybe these are some more realistic numbers. Two thousand and
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: fifty yards passing, thirteen touchdowns to interceptions.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Those are in line with now, what is that yards
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: for temp seven point three? That's not bad. Those are
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: numbers that are kind of in line with what you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: got from Dylan Reola at Nebraska last year. Like those
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: are almost touchdown to I t ratio is almost identical.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I think, so that's kind of I think that's probably
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a little less than a fiftieth percentile outcome for Bryce Underwood.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I think you should see numbers a little better than that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But that's not also like the worst possible case scenario
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: like you could be you know that that's probably, like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I said, thirtieth fortieth percentile outcome for him. Realistically, he's
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: probably going to be. You know, he probably has better
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: weapons than than QB Force did back in the day.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I think he also is a little you know, he's bigger, stronger,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you know, probably at least as athletic, not more athletic,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and so yeah, I would expect i'd bet the over
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: probably on most of those numbers, you know, two thousand yards.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: When does he take over as the starter? How healthy
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: does he day? Because you know, Sharon Moore talked about,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna want if the quarterback can run,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you're gonna want to run the quarterback. But if you're
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: going to run the quarterback, you better have two quarterbacks.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: And mikey Kean, I don't think he's much a runner.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: He's a smaller guys like five eleven, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I think you rush for over over negative hundred yards
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: less than negative ninety yards as a negative one hundred
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: or something like that. So I mentioned Chad Henny was
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: maybe the two thousand and seven All Big Ten quarterback
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: and you're like, now his numbers are terrible. He actually
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: was the coach's number one quarterback nineteen hundred and thirty
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: eight yards, seventeen touchdowns, nine interceptions, fifty eight point three
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: percent completion completion percentage in ten games. Todd Beckman was
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the media's first team All Big Ten quarterback. And I
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: don't real mention for the coaches.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I've said it for years, college football coaches don't know ball.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Now there's a guy Kellen Lewis as a second team
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: quarterback both of years he was, he got Indiana to
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: a bowl game and then you know, unfortunately they lost
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: their coach after that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was That was the last year
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: for Terry Heppner, I believe, yeah, and Terry Heppner. That's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a not to have a complete digression, But Terry Heppner
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: was the guy who seemed like he had Indiana trending
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: in the right direction. I don't know if he would
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: have gotten them to Kurt Signetti level, but he was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the guy who was like, oh man, this is the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: guy who can do it, and then he tragically passed away.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: He had I think brain cancer, I believe, and tragically
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: passed away. But yeah, it's it's it's nice to that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Indiana did finally, you know, have something other than a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you know, tragic, tragic end to their story. So let's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: let's go through other takeaways from the Sean Moore press conference.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: One thing, when he was talking about the offensive line,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you know, this is this is happy talk season, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it was also you know, it was essentially all feel
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: better about the you know, I think the tackles when TJ.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Guy and Derek Moore stopped being able to just bull
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: rush them into the back. I heard that, and I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: kind of went, I think concerns may be at least
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: somewhat valid.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Well, and I didn't hear sounds like one of the
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: answers that he gave one of the questions was that
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: there are a couple of true freshmen in the mix.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: To start now, Ryan Day back a few years ago said,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Luke Montgomery is in the mix it right, tackle, So
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: there's that sort of thing. But when you're getting true
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: freshmen involved, I think that's a concern. But he also
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: mentioned they've got a lot of versatility. Their tackles can
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: play guard that sort of thing. They got some good
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: experience from the guys that are back last year in
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: terms of it was experienced. They weren't necessarily good with
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: that experience, but they're better having done it this year.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: It was good for them to have the experience, not
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the experience.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: So I think there's still a concern there for the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: offensive line.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't know exactly how much to read into that,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: because you can sign it. You know, we've been around
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: him enough now that you can kind of get a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: sense sometimes that you know, he says a lot of names.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You know, he talked about the running backs, and he
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: talked about eight different guys, and it's like, I don't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: know who they're I don't know who their FCS game
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: is this year or whatever, which directional Michigan they're playing.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: But that name you just said is going to be
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the guy who's carrying the ball with three minutes and
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: forty two seconds left in a fifty point game against
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: some directional Michigan school. But you said his name in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the conversation about running backs. So I don't read a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: ton into that. If we get to week three of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: camp and he's still saying that name. Then okay, then
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: we can have a conversation. But it doesn't have to
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: be a true freshman. And they have a five star
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: tackle recruit, like a twenty twenty five guy, five star
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: tackle in their class. If you're playing him this year,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that is not good news. And but I don't know
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that they feel good about either of those tackle spots.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Are at least great about either of those tackle spots.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Now, and you mentioned he's just throwing out names. He
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: was talking. We were both there. I'm sitting there with
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: my laptop and he's throwing all of these names out,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: and he's talking about this tight end who's showing up,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: has like has really good hands, and I'm typing his
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: name into the roster and I'm scrolling down. It's like,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: this dude's wearing number forty three. He's never gonna play.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Don't give me these names with all of these terrible
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: football members. You're lying to me.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Who is the last who's the best number forty three
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in Ohio State? Was he forty three? I think so, okay,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: that sounds wrong, but I couldn't tell you for sure
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you're wrong. I had forty two in my head, forty three.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: There you go. Wow, that was well done.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: You're well pressed.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I'm impressed.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: The best forty two bliar Field.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Bradley Robinson, Kat you can't tell me I'm wrong. So
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: that's that's offensive line. I think that's a concern and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: running back not. I don't think it concerned. I feel
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: like between Jordan Marshall and Justice Haynes, who was the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Alabama transfer, I think they feel pretty good about that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: When Jessa Sayins was like looking at Ohio State and Michigan,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I had somebody reach out to me and tell me,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: like he's he was not Alabama's best running back. Well,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: generally your best running back doesn't leave rush On Judkins did. Yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: So sarn Moore feels very good about the running backs.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Jordan Marshall averaged maybe four yards of carry last year,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: but had a four yards of carrying like that last
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: game where we rush for one hundred yards in the
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: bowl game. Where's number three? Though? I think there's there's
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: a question. But if you get down to it, like
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: are you really concerned about number three? If you're on
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: the ball as much as Michigan, Maybe maybe you are.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: But Jordan Marshall last year thirty one carries at one
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: and twenty yards three point nine yards per carry. But again,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I think most of that was against Alabama, which is small.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Thing, right, Yeah, no, no small thing at all. And
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: they he Justice Haynes was not the only guy they
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: brought in from Alabama. They also brought in Paint Damon
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: payin Pain is the Damon Pain Yeah, formerly from Detroit. Yes,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I believe that's right. He is one of the nose
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: tackles that they're feeling pretty good about. Racheon Benny the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: other one who he was. He was someone that Ohio
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: State was looking at and camped at Ohio State and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: ended up choosing Michigan, and you know he those two
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: guys in the middle of the defensive line, it sounds
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: like they're feeling good about them. Derek Moore on the edge,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: they're feeling pretty good about it. You know, we'll see
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: what the depth on the defensive line is, but it
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: feels like they are probably feeling much better about the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: defensive side of the trenches than the offensive side.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Well, and TJ guy the other defense got plenty of
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: playing time. They were they've always had like a four
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: man rotation a defensive end. They've done really well with that.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Derek Moore has been in that rotation since he was
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: a true freshman. I think he's finally a senior now, yes,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: so he's very experienced. And then this is another area
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: where shrim Moore was just naming names and not just
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: naming names because he was he seen to be like
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: really excited about the defensive line. And again a lot
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: of these guys, not that they come out of nowhere,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: because these are Michigan recruits, right, but they there's another
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: guy that just rushes the passer really well and is
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: able to get into the mix. And then they bring
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: in a transfer that does well. And I'm not sure
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: what the transfer situation looks like in terms of where
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: that's booing the defensive line, although they do have some
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: interior got at least one interior guy from Maryland.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I believe that sounds right, but.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I'll I'll doubt the Michigan defensive line when I see
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Ohio State running through.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: It, or yeah, yeah, I think you can look at
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: they lost Kenneth Grant, they lost Mason Graham that those
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: are going to be tough guys to replace, but also say,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: but they might be able to replace them. You know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: do they get one hundred percent of those guys? Do
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: they have a top five pick? Not necessarily, but you
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you know, you could be eighty percent of those guys
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and still be a pretty good pair of defensive times.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I think cray Sean Benny's a guy that's gotten better.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Early on in his career, he was like he was
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: just a guy like but then when he played more
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: and more, he started seeing.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Him pop up more and more. YEP, linebackers. Ernest Houseman
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: was here. That's another spot where I mean, how do
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you how did you think he felt about their linebackers.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I think it feels pretty good.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Jayshon Bariham is the other linebacker who was six three,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: two fifty says he can play on the edge, can
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: can do a lot of things, very versatile. Jimmy Rolder
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: is kind of like their Peyton Piers. Yeah, he's a
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: younger guy, but as he may finally be a third year,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he was a true freshman last year.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: A lot of names to remember.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I think this is at least his third year because
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: he was someone who was very very late in the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: cycle recruit. He just kind of he was like a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: late riser in Ohio State was in on him and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: was he from Illinois? Is that right? He was? He
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: was a very very late riser in the class. And
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like, yeah, Michigan really needs one
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: more linebacker in the class. In Ohio State needs one
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: more linebacker here he whiz, we're getting old h So,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a very very late
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: riser in the class and hasn't had you know, a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: huge you know, he's he had what twenty six tackles
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: last year, forty five tackles in his career. He's you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: taking on a bigger role as his career is going on.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But you know, fourth year, if you have a fourth
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: year guy who they feel pretty good about as your
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: third linebacker, that's that's a pretty good outcome.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: It is interesting though that there are two starting linebackers
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: are transfers, so that you know what what is clearly
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: the recruiting there has struggled and what is behind them?
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Do they have to go back to the portal lot
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: They need to continue to develop that behind it and
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: not just for next year, but also for this year.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: If they want to put Jayshon Barham you move him
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: around a lot, there's going to be some guys behind
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: him that can play.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Too, yep, yep. Secondary wise, And I know Rod Morris back.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: And and is he completely healthy is.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Supposedly? I think yes, he was, but he was someone
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: who was maybe going to be able to play towards
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the end of last season. Then I don't think played
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: at all last season. He had I think a knee
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: injury in spring last year, so he should be back
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: on the whole. It seems like that this is not
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a you know, this is not the twenty twenty three
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Michigan team, but it should be better than the twenty
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: twenty four Michigan team. I think you're I think you're
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: kind of back to a you know. I know they
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: finished with eight wins, but it really didn't feel like
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: an eight win season for the majority of last year.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: It feels like this is a Michigan team that's probably,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: at at worst kind of on the periphery of the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: college football playoff conversation. And they might be able to
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: do better than that. It might kind of depend on
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: how quickly they can get started, because the schedule is
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: not super forgiving.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: No, no, it isn't And Zeke Barry moves from nickel
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: to corner. They're very high on him. Mentioned you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: jyr Hill is still at corner but could play nickel,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and he said all of the safeties could be in
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the nickel. They don't necessarily want to move to Zeke
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Barry back there because they need him at corner. Mentioned
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: a true freshman that could get in the mix at
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the corner as well. They've done that before, you know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: over the years when they have a really good corner,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: they're not afraid to put him out there. So I
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: think they they need to figure out that nickel spot
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: just like everybody. And what are you gonna do with it?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna put a safety there, can they cover?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: And you know, obviously you want to stop the run first,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: So bigger nicchol is okay, But then what happens after that?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: And is Broad more like Mike Sangers still is one
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: of the best of all time. Daxon Hill is really
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: good playing in the nickel. If you know it's Broad
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Moore a guy who is a ballhawk and he's just
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: a very smart guy. Is that a guy that can
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: drop down in a nickel on passing downs? We've seen them,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: they've moved guys around here when you know, early downs,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: you're deep, later downs, you're upfront. I think they may
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: have done that with Daxton Hill actually, but you know
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: they've they've still got to figure all of that out.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Daxton Hill was there at a point where it
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: was like the only question was who's the second best
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: player on this Michigan defense, because Daxton Hill was that
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like number one with a bullet on that on that defense.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: They also, you know, as we're talking about them playing
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: all these freshmen, Michigan does a really really good job
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: of playing going real deep in their roster where you'll
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you'll look at the games where they're playing you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: fill in the blank directional Michigan and it's like, how
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: did fourteen guys have a carry in this game? But
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and they'll do that, you know they have. They have
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: not played tremendous non conference schedules the last couple of years.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Last year obviously they played Texas. This year they played Oklahoma.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But previous you know, previous to that twenty twenty three,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: they had a couple of years where they had some
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: real soft non conference schedules and they would go as
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: deep on the bench as you see anyone ever go
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and you know those were under Jim Harbaugh, but you
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: get the sense that that's sort of a philosophy that's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: continued with Sean Moore. If you're on the roster and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the games out of hand, you know, keep you keep
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: your chin strap buckled up, so you're gonna you're gonna
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: get these guys some reps. And that's not something that's
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: probably going to in a lot of cases make a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: big difference this year. But that's the kind of stuff
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that because Jimmy Roler played in ten games or twelve games,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: whatever it was in twenty twenty two, well then he
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: was more ready in twenty twenty four and then in
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and you see that kind of stuff
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: kind of pay off for them long term.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Can I change the subject to the explosiveness of the
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Michigan offense now, you sure may, because that is something
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: that Scarum Moore said. They will be more explosive this
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: year with their passing game. Got a new offensive coordinator,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: two new quarterbacks, the same receivers, but also Donovan mcaulay
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: comes in from Indiana. Maybe a couple of what Andrew
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: marsh Is was it with true freshman last year. I yes,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: sometimes get confused with Nick Marsh hit Michigan State. Yeah yeah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Andrew Marsh's I think of freshman last year, probably a
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: senior now Tom. Yeah, but a lot of these guys
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: are growing. And then I did ask him, why, why
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: do you think you're going to be more explosive this
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: year or when last year you were? And he said
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: consistency and.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: We have a That was very nice of him to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: not say we have a quarterback this.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Right, because there were times last year that there were
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: some receivers running free on a deep route and the
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: throw is yeah, next county.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah that you got the Joe Bozeman Pallasit passing chart
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a few times.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So now having a more consistent quarterback will allow
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: for just first complete the ball and then maybe make
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: a tackle and pick up a big play. Because I
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: think they I don't think they don't think they had
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: a single forty yard completion last year.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: That sounds right. I mean we watch every one of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: the games and I don't remember remember them having a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: forty yard completion last year. And some of that was
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: quarterback and some of that was just the wide receiver.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Play has just not been great there for quite a while.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I mean they have really not. They've They've had guys
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: who let's see Michigan, Yes, Michigan didn't even have a
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the no forty yard plays for thirty yard plays, which
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: was even every other team in the Big Ten had
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: at least ten. Oh no, except for Minnesota. Every other
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Big every other than Minnesota, every other team had ten
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: or more. Even Iowa. Iowa had eleven. Iowa had five
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: plays of pass plays or forty yards and more. Iowa
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: had three pass plays of fifty yards or more. Iowa
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: had a pass play of seventy yards. Michigan had four
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: of thirty yards all season.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Do you think Jeremiah Spient had more twenty yard receptions
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: of Michigan's seventeen.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to sit, boy, that's closed. I'm going to
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: say he had more than the Michigan's four plays of
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: thirty yards. Oh yes, that's really by seventeen is a lot.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say he did.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think I would. I will say yes solely because
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to no. Twelve but nine, no,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: eighteen plays of twenty yards.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Tyler Ward had eighteen as well.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, that they're gonna have They're going to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: be more explosive just because you almost can't. You almost
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: can't go down from there. I mean, if you're if
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: you're looking up at Iowa like and you need binoculars
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: to see Iowa, you can't. You can't go down from there.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: So Jeremiah Smith nine receptions of forty yards last year
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Michigan zero.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, yes, you.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Can got to win, right, yeah, they Jeroon Moore was
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: asked about Jeremy Smith, right, was it bussy?
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I had to walk away at one point, so I
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: might have missed that.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: It was. I think it was in We're just saying, like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: great player, elite player, and totally total respect. And that's
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: that's again that you're gonna have to focus on and
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: we'll see. Uh. Not to change subjects to Texas, but
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I'm fascinated to sea our teams. Yeah, defending, because Michigan
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: did a pretty good job. We got the one.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Score on there was the one drive where they went
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: hurry up right before the half and boo down the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: field and went, oh, okay, now they've they've found it
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and they're fine, and then they didn't. That didn't carry
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: over into the second half. While we're talking about that game.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Let's there were a couple of other things that I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: did want to hit on. H With the Sharon Moore
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: press conference that we have, he was asked about, you know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: he a million different things. He was asked about the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the end of the Michigan game, Michigan Ohio
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: State game last year, and you know, the flag planning
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: thing and the fight on the field and all that
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So here was his here with his hit.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Here were his thoughts on that.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Definitely addressed. And there'll be no more flag planning. There'll
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: be no more grabbing the flag. You know, we talked
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: about our new tradition and what we do when we
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: win a game is go meet the band, go sing
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: our victors, and stay over there until the other team departs.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: And that's how we'll operate. You know, shake hands after
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: the game, show sportsmanships, be cordial. You know a lot
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: of guys in college football know each other. You know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: all these guys are they're kids at the end of
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: the day. There's seventeen to twenty two year old kids
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: and they are most of our friends. A lot of
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: them talk before the game, so let them have that
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: and uh, but then as a as a team, go
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: be together as a team and then leave as a team.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: So there he goes. There was surean Moore on talking
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: about that. You know, as he was laying that whole
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: thing out, it was like, you know that that was
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: that was not just an answer about the end of
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the Ohio State game. That was also an end an
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: answer about the last several Michigan State Michigan games. And
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: you know that one that one is in East Lansing
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: this year, but that's another stadium where there's only one tunnel,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: so uh, to your state of Michigan, consider another tunnel.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: But we talked to Bill Corrella on the first day, yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: talking about like, yeah, they understand the games where these
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: things might happen, and so they the stadiums and the
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: and the rivalries, they know where things might happen.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know that that felt like as he
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: was kind of talking through that, I was like, oh,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: this is not an answer about just one one particular
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: game where incidents have happened. So that was I know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: just you know, that was not something that got harped
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: on a lot, but it was just it came up
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure Ohio State fans would be interested in that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: In that answer, something else I'm sure Ohio State fans
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: will be interested in is so the Connor Stallions thing.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And we have successfully made it all the way through
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Big ten VD days without the NCAA dropping whatever the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: whatever the final punishments are. So the note that did
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: not happen. He was asked, and I will preface this
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: by not by an Ohio State reporter. He was asked
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: about whether the This is kind of three sound bites together.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So the first one is about, you know, whether there's
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern about the lingering uncertainty
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: about what that punishment might be. Punishment's going to come
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: down before the season, but you don't know right now.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: It could be a forward facing thing. You might not
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: be eligible for the postseason. We don't you know, we
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: don't know and they don't know. So just the lingering
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: uncertainty about that. And then there's a you may or
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: may not be able to hear it because the question
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: askers were not miked. But the second question is, you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: is there a plan in you know, in case Sean
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Morris facing his suspension, And then they follow up to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that is you know, essentially, can you tell us what
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: that plan is? So here is Serean Moore answering those
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: three questions.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Obviously can't talk about that, but not hard because you're
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: just so excited about what's going on and the program
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: and the team and our players just don't get distracted
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: by all that. Our coaches don't get distracted by all that,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: because you can't worry about stuff you can't control. So
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: all we're going to do is worry about what we
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: can't control and go play.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: If there's some.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Plan and plan yep, we'll wait to see if that happens.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: So I did think that was interesting. We'll wait to
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: see if that happens. They did offer up a self
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: imposed two game suspension, so my assumption would be, yeah,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that's probably going to happen. If you have already offered
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that up, that you would assume too would be the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: minimum number of games that you would potentially be facing
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a suspension, and it could be more. But I did,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought that was an interesting answer. You know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: it's kind of one of those like, yeah, what are
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you going to say? Like, no, we're sitting at home
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and wringing your hands, but you know that that's that's
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: certainly you know that was that was more of an
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: answer related to the NCAA investigation than I was anticipating.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she she did a good job on that question
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: and getting that the follow up, although I will say,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: we'll see if that happens. Does he know something like that?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Does he think that letter from Tony Pettiti town? Have
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: you heard about this letter from Tony PETTITTI?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have, Yeah, And I keep going back to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling they have at least some sense
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: for what's going to happen. But the idea that nothing
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: is going to happen seems a little fanciful, just based
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: on the fact that if nothing was going to happen,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: they probably would have had a resolution to that already.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: It feels like Michigan has been pushing back on a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and putting out a bunch of public
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: statements to sort of position themselves just so for the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: announcement of this. If nothing's going to happen, it doesn't
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: feel like you need to sort of prepare the battleground
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: for that and sort of prepare a lot of pr
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: is sort of preparing people for what is to come.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: The way they're approaching it right now is not that
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: they're preparing everyone for and this is going to be
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: incredible news. Go ahead and go to party city right now,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: get your hats, your little kazoo blowing things, get it ready,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: big announcement coming. That's just not the vibe. Pr wise,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that's not the vibe in terms of the NCAA doesn't
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: want to have this long drawn out thing. The NCAA
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: would prefer that this was probably resolved. If there was
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: a resolution, you know, the big ten in the SEC
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: right now would probably prefer that everyone was on the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: same page with the college football playoff and an announcement
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: had been made and everyone understands that there hasn't been
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: an agreement. That's a little bit more of a public dispute,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: but the fact that there hasn't been an agreement is
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: pretty good indication to me that there's no an agreement,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: that there's some disagreement there. The fact that Michigan and
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the NCAA did not come out of the hearing in
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: June with a hey, look, mistakes were made, we all understand.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Let's move on with everything and let's get rid of
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: that uncertainty. Because you know, the uncertainty is not just
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: not great for the current team, the uncertainty is not
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: great for recruiting. In terms of your twenty twenty six recruits.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Are they going to be a Bowl eligible? I mean
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: maybe they'd like to know, probably question mark, But but
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you don't know. It would be sure, would be good
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: to know. Hey, even if there is a postseason ban,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it's a one year thing and it's just twenty twenty five,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and so congratulations class of twenty twenty six. That won't
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: impact you at all. And it's okay because the class
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: of you know, the guys on the team right now,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: it's too late for the transferst You're not gonna lose anyone.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: So just it just doesn't feel to me like nothing
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: is coming. Everything is great, And that's just that's not
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: how they're handling thing.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not why you put up a fight. Yeah,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: nothing is happening. So I've got a couple of weeks left.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes. Maybe maybe maybe as soon
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: as that. But yeah, he was also asked, would you
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: like to see this these the NCAA speed up their process,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: and yeah, I'm not going to get into it.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, So tremendous, tremendous dynamite drop end. Monty Kevin wants
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: to jump in the comments lesson of the party city
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: went bankrupt, So go ahead and choose whichever, whichever, uh,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: whichever of the party stores you you prefer. We've had
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: we've been going now for almost an hour so and
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: we've picked up a bunch of viewers. So let's let's
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: kind of circle back to the top of the show.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: We talked about this right off the top. One of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the more interesting moments really all week was Michigan defensive
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: end Derek Moore. He was asked about Ohio States National
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: championship and just kind of you know what you're thinking
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: is you're watching it, and and that's one of those
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: questions where it's it's very easy to say something that's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: not going to make headlines. Uh. And he chose violence
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: at least, you know, not not a lot of violence,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: low low level violence. But here is here is Derek
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Moore's thoughts on Ohio State winning the national championship.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: First, I'd like to, you know, I could congratulate them
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: on a win, but you know, you know it's not
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: a real one. If you if you'll beat us, So
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: you know, but I'm an congradul lead them when they win.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: But this year is gonna be different.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: So there you go. There's Derek Moore and then Sharon
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Moore was Searon Moore spoke about an hour or so
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: after Derek Moore was up at the podium, and then
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: this was Sharon Moore's take on Derek Morris take.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I mean try to try to clickbait the players. Uh,
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: they won, they won the national title. They were the
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: best team at the end of the year. So I
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: give them all the credit that they give. They were
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: well deserving. They played really well and obviously won. They
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: won it all, so you know, kudos to them.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: So there you go. There's there's Searon Moore. Uh. Two
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: points of clarity from earlier than when we had this conversation. Uh,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: when Derek Moore says it's not gonna happen this year,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: he's talking about Ohio State, when you know it's got
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: different this year. Whatever it was he's taking about Ohio
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: State winning the national championship. You know this is presumably
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: because we're gonna win the national championship. And then you
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: know the question was you know, I know Sharon Moore
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: thought it was clickbait, but that was not at all
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: a clickbaity question. That was and this is not. You know,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: we're we're providing you the entirety of the sound bite
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: so that you cannot say you're taking it out of context, Like,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: here's the entirety of the context. Here's a question was asked,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: here's everything he said.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Well, when he chuckles before he answers, he knows he's
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: going to say this. Oh right, ye, he's he's easing
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: into it. And is it? Is it disrespectful? Is it
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: disrespectful for what what Ohio State did winning the national championship?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Trying to take that away from them when they have
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: the trophies, they have all of the confetti. Is there
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: a lack of respect for not just what Ohio State did,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: but for Ohio State as a whole?
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: This to me is like the college football players are
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: having some fun and that's okay, that's not a bad thing.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: And you're kid, this is this is uh, you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: they they call this, you know, they call stuff a
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: victimless crime, Like this feels like a victimless crimes.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: You should see Twitter.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: It's no, I shouldn't you know? This is This is
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: one of those things where it's Headliny, it's it's attention grabbing.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: You're you're not hurting anything. You're not saying something bad
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: about a person. You're not saying like this is. This
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: is to me like good, this is the like don't
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: don't hit each other with helmets, don't get pepper sprayed
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: on the field, don't attack each other in the tunnel. Like,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: have have some fun, talk to each other, talk to
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: each other through the media, talk to each other on
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: social media, like great, have a little bit of fun
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: with it, Tony. You may not be aware of this.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: College football is a game that is being played for entertainment,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and so a little bit of you know, the Hulk
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Hogan passed away earlier. You can you can cut a
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: promo every once in a while and that's okay. You can.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: You can take a little bit of a heel turn.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: That's okay to me, Like this is it's interesting, it's
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: a fun thing to talk about, like it's great, And
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I know there will be a wide variety of responses
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: to this, but to me, yeah, man, when your game,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: talk your mess and then better win next year, because
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: if you don't, then guess what the other team, they
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: get their turn to talk yeah.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: No, And with rivalries, I prefer to see people embrace
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: it and talk about yeah, rather than just one game
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: at a time. We make fun of the one game
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: at a time, and people really live by that. So
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: when they step out of that box and they will
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: talk a little, then yeah, bring it. I love it.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: I love it when the coach is doing. That's where
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: we talked about how much we like Brett Bielaman because
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: he will talk. I'll just talk and players if they
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: just talk, that's great too.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Well, how great was Steve Spurrier at that? Like this
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: exact thing that we're talking about. You know, you can't
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: spell citrus without ut, Like, can you imagine a coach
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: saying saying that? Now? I mean that was that wasn't
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: that different in an era? It was you know, it
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: was a little bit of a different era. But he
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: would he would say that stuff and it would go,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you know, viral nineteen nineties of viral, which is like
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it's on sports set or whatever. But that's like, that's fun.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: It's not you're not you're not hurting anyone.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Van Alwright is talking about it on Headline News.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: That is a that is a very specific moment in time. Yeah, whoever,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: whoever is wearing the leather jacket on ESPN two doing
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: whatever that that would that would probably would have been
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: about Kenny Maine leather jacket.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Keith ober Oberman, Susie Colbert back in the day.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, so no, that's that's uh. I think a I
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: think an interesting uh, an interesting interesting quote. And then
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: guess what we'll get to ask got it again the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: week of the night of the Michigan game. So great,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that'll be. That'll be fun. Hey, speaking of Keith Oberman, Tony,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: do you know where I'm going with this transition?
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: The executive order?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Tony, there was news out of Washington, d C. Today
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the President of these United States of America issued an
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: executive or or involving college football. You were doing some
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: furious research, uh, while I was while I was off
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: shooting press conferences and stuff. So let people know essentially
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: what happened and what does it actually mean.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't read any of the the executive order itself,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: but it basically was a lot about the similar to
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: the Score Act, and one of the things in the
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: the executive order that they're they're trying to eliminate is
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: the pay for play, pay for play, pay for play,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: pay for play from the the third party nil. And
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: one of the questions that comes from that is, well,
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: what do we consider pay for play? Because it's all
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: pay for play and in a sense because you're being
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: paid to play. But I think maybe that maybe you
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: can't lure, you're not supposed to lure with these deals.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: What world are we living in? Well, well, again, executive
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: order is not a law, so it's suggestion. It's like
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: a speed limit.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's not how that works at all. It's
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: interesting because it seems like that's kind of in line
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: with what the conferences would like to provide a little
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: more structure, a little bit, you know, maybe a little
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: you put a flying buttress up against the idea of
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the nil go folks being able to say, no, this
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: is not a legitimate business purpose because you had a
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: little bit of a swing the other direction yesterday, right, yes, yesterday.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: It has been a week friends where the College Sports
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Committee said, you know, they sort of reached an agreement
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: with the house folks that well, okay, it turns out collectives, no,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: it's two days ago. Because it was when I was
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: day was here that yes, collectives can be considered the
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: same thing as businesses. So you sort of had a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: little bit of a swing in the direction, which was
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: probably a little bit more of a swing towards not
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: just true nil and a little bit more of a yeah,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: you can, you know, if you can come up with
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the reez, if you can come up with an explanation,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: you fudge some receipts and we can you can get
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: this payment. This is potentially, at least notionally a swing
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: back in the other direction. But I talked to a
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: couple different big ten I say, a big ten ads
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: this week, and just kind of like on background kind
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: of conversations where we're not just you know, we're a
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the most useful stuff we
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: get from events like this is not the stuff you
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: see on video. It's the conversations we have with the
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: people off camera where they can be a little more
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: forthcoming with information and their thoughts on stuff. If you're
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: not going to be publishing this with their name and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: their school and all that kind of stuff. The sense
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: that I get is the folks in charge of college
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: football sure would love it if Congress did something about
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: this and took the you know, the full force of
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: the United States federal legislature and had the president's signature
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: on a law, you know, like the Score Act, which
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: did move forward in some way. You know this it
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: was like what out of committee and it's kind of
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: moving forward. At least the folks in charge sure seem
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: to think that that's where this ultimately is going to
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: need to get solved, because you're not going to be
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: able to just sort of like it feels like they're
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: just like fighting a rearguard action right now, where they're
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: just like sort of slowly kind of covering the retreat
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: behind them and slowly giving grounds to buy time. Eventually
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you're going to run out of ground.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: So, and I think part of the executive Order as
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: well as instructions on helping with antitrust, Federal Trade Commissioner
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: or whoever is involved with that commerce in terms of
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: just hey, we need an exemption for college sports. Let's
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: get this done, because we know until that exemption is
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: there or it's codified and it's law, there's going to
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: be lawsuits about limiting what players can make or you
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: know what, no no, no unions and all of that.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: So these are all the steps that we've been talking
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: about need to be made, because every step of the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: way people are like, well, that's not going to fix it. No,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: this is all like you put in some two by force.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Well that's not going to build a house. We'll try
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: building one without it, right, Yeah, the part of the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: step that we have to go through. So it's all
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: part of the process.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think there's a certain amount people
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: have gotten some very strong thoughts on this and everyone
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: in charge is an idiot, and you know, nothing is
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: going to work, and it's like something some of this
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: is going to work, some of this isn't going to work.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Some of this is going to get upheld. Some of
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: this is not going to get upheld. I know everyone
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: on Twitter went to Twitter dot com law school or
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: message board law school. But you got to kind of
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: let the process play out because if this stuff had
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely no hope of ever standing up. Right, the folks
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: who reached the house settlement, which was a by a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: judge that did go through a judge, like these are
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: people those there was a lot of there were a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: lot of billable hours that went into that that was
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: not a well we'll just say this and we know
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: it's not going to work and it's going to be
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: gone in a week and a half, but you know,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: the press release will look great, like know that there's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: probably a little more nuance there than that. Do you
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: have anything else from the press conferences today or you know,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you were over with Nico i Amaliava.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did confirm that they had two helmets broken
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: yep against o High State.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: That it was very cold, you can confirm.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: So now hopefully it's warmer for him in November this
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: year when UCLA comes to.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Town, it'll be warmer than it was that night for sure,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it'll be uh, it'll it'll not be Westwood
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: weather either, So I do speaking of UCLA, I do
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to Deshaun Foster,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: UCLA head coach, who last year had himself a moment
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Brackets Derogatory where he went up and said, you know,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: like started to make a joke and was very clearly
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: like terrified to be talking in front of that many
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: people and made a joke and it fell flat and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: then just like froze for like twenty seconds, and it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: was one of the most awkward moments you've ever seen,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: and he handled it this year perfectly. He went up,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: he made he just took it head on, made a
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: joke about it, talked about the fact that he and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: his player has been laughing about it. You know, he
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: still looked a little nervous up there at times, but
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: you know what that's that is as well as you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: could possibly handle that.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were wondering if that's what he would do,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: because we thought it would be good for him if
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: he did that. That's exactly what he did. He was
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: well prepared for that aspect of yeah, for.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Sure, for sure. All right, So let's run through a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: couple questions here. Let's see if we have questions here.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: It just meets him. Yeah, it just meets him. Says
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: why wasn't Cardial Jones picked to go to the media
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: day in twenty five teen? Well, who is Ohio state
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback going to be? As of July twenty fifteen,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: it was still up in the air. Who is a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Hio State starting quarterback going to be? When they got
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: on the flight to Blacksburg, Virginia in twenty fifteen, it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: was still up in the air. Sure was. Yeah, So
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: if you and you don't. You don't send someone here
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: if they're going to be a distraction or they're going
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to be you know, you don't want to put someone
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: in that position where they're just going to get questions
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: about the starting you know, are you going to be
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the starter or is it gonna be someone else for
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: like an hour that that's not that's not something you're
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: going to do. So yeah, that was that was why
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Cardile wasn't here. Let's see, t K says, wondering how
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: healthy mikey Keane is. My sense he missed the spring
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: or most of the spring, but my sense was he's,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: you know, good to go now, like fully good to go.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, assuming it was yeah.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Like it feels like that would have come.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Up, right if it wasn't. The other thing, Yeah, he's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: going to be certainly would have come up if he's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: not going to be healthy for fall camp. One of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: the questions was can he still win the job without
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: having a spring And he's like, well, he's shroun Mars said,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: he's got the most snaps of anybody on the team,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: like two thousand snaps. That's plenty enough for him to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: come in and win a job in fall camp. And
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: he mentioned he referenced Rod Moore who came in in
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: June and ended up winning a job for Michigan. So yeah,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: here's plenty enough experience to get the job done or
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: to win the job just not having the spring.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Joe just wants to jump in with. Cardile Jones had
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: a beautiful arm. Can confirm that that was one of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the stronger arms. And it was also it was not
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: a Joe Milton strong arm where it's just he can
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: throw football over them mountains, but the wide receiver is
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: on a different set of mountains. Like. It was a
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: strong arm. That was also, Boy, there was some Devin
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Smith down there somewhere in Cardile Jones's game. But he
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: also hit some you know, he's no Evans answer, but
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: he he had some good had some moments.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen Ohio State players at the Media Days, Taylor Ducker,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Joshua Joshua Perry, and Adolphus Washington.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: All right, yeah, no not a among them. No, No,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Ezekiel he.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Was he already that was the year he just got suspended.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: They announced all of those suspensions walking to Media Days
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: in Chicago. Oh okay, there's like five or six suspensions
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: that yeah, dropped.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, had that season go great? I bet it was great?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: It was Yeah. Jeff wants to know how long does
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Sean Moore stay when they aren't allowed to play postseason?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Inquiring minds want to know there was a question, but
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: did he get asked something about how long he was
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: going to stay?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: He said he, I will be here as long as
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: they'll have me.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and like, what else are you going
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: to say? But you know, he I think he's got
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: I think he recognizes he's got a pretty good gig
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: right now. And if you you know, if you do
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: have a postseason ban, which again this is this is
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: not us saying this is what's going to happen. This
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: is just like the premise of the question is if
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: they're not allowed to play in the postseason, and it's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: a season, it's this season, and it's like, I mean,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Ohio State fans, you went through twenty twelve, It's like,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: well that's a bummer, but the season is the season.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer showed up and then they got a postseason
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: van dropped on him and it was like, well urban
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Meyer didn't walk out the door. They went twelve and
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: zero and then they moved on with life. If it's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: a one year thing, I don't think it has any
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: impact whatsoever. If it's a multi year thing, you almost
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: you just you're kind of like buying yourself some time.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: That might be something where if they have a halfway
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: decent season this year and you're looking at a multi
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: year thing, you might get a year tacked onto your
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: contract just as a you know, hey, look we believe
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: in you. We appreciate your patience with all this stuff.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: This is yeah, yeah, I mean, he's maybe not going
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to get to coach a couple of games, but you
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: know this is not you know, this is not directly
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: his fault. So there you go. Let's see David Greenshield
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: wants to let us know that the twenty twenty one
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Michigan non conference schedule was a week as well. Yeah,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: that's uh, that's true. Kevin is here just fact checking us.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Always Always happy to thank you Grock,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you Grock. Jeff says, glad to see Kevin take
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: some time from the buffet and stop by. So well.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Kevin invited us more than ten to fifteen minutes ago
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: to punch him into the show, which I just a'm
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: seeing now that's all right at this point, we're just
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: gonna let it ride. That's okay, that's yeah, yeah, it's
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: just me. Tim says that you pay to play, as
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: if you play, you get paid. I mean, that's that's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: kind of what it is. It's the idea. This kind
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: of came up a bunch this week. I was surprised
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: at how little Nil talked there was with Searan Moore
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: when that was such a big part of Ryan Day's conversation.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: But we may have to do with where those two
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: guys were in the week where Ryan Day was the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: first kind of like big I'm head coach this week,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: and then everyone who's going to write about Nil had
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: written about it at that point, and so then I'm
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Surean Moore gets here, we can have conversations about the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: running back depth chart down to the eighth guy.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: That's a great point because that topic has been done
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: and now it's all like there weren't many there's maybe
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: there's one national guy over with Sharon today, but yeah,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: that topic was written about. So now we move on
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: and hey, all we're talking about here is Michigan, which
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: is you know, how is the right guard going? Like,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: oh stuff? Like that was being asked, which is what
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: this thing what you would like to be able to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: ask if you're a beat reporter. Yeah, and with the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Ryan Day thing, there's just it was all the college
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: football at large, which yeah, I don't think there was
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: any specific college football type of question that he was asked.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: No, No, I mean yeah, about as broad as a gout.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Was the Stallion's investigation and stuff like that, rather than
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: you know, the nil or the house settlement or any
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: If he wasn't talking about me, it was I'm not
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: going to talk about the NCAA, or it was asked
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: about Ohio State.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was That was pretty much it. So Kevin
• 1:09:07
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• 1:09:09
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• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: we have. You know, we are wrapping things up here
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: from Big ten media days, but we have a ton
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: more content that has still to come. I posted a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: video this morning that was everything Drew Holler from Penn
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: State said about Ohio State, and there was a ton
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: of interest in that. I have a James Franklin one
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: ready to go that will probably go up on Friday
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: morning and then I'll try and put together Sean Moore
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: everything Sean Moore said about Ohio State. There were several
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Michigan players who were asked about stuff. I'll either have,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: if we have an outfall, make separate videos for them,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: or we'll just do a We'll kind of lump it
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: all together. But we'll have a bunch of that stuff.
• 1:09:48
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• 1:09:50
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• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: put a lot of stuff in there that it doesn't
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: really fit the Ohio State stuff like we'll put you know,
• 1:10:03
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• 1:10:05
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• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: the Buckeyhead channel when it's sort of framed around Ohio State.
• 1:10:10
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• 1:10:14
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• 1:10:19
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• 1:10:22
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• 1:10:24
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• 1:10:26
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• 1:10:30
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• 1:10:32
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• 1:10:34
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• 1:10:37
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• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: reaction to the Derek Moore thing that we were talking
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: about off the top of the show. Meanwords were said,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to cry into my National championship confetti and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, yes, yes, you should not be upset
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: about this. It's like, you know what, you win your game,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: you get to talk. That's that's how it goes. I
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: I love it when we talked about sir. I love
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: the back and forth. I love the I don't mind
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: the like you don't need to taunt because taunting is
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: like in you know, in the game or whatever, because
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: that that's when, like Bill Corolla was talking about, like
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: that's when that leads to fighting. But if you you
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: score a touchdown, like yeah, man, celebrate, Yeah, do a flip.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I don't care, Like, don't do a flip and like
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: shoot someone the bird, but like, yeah, score, do do it?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Do a flip into the end zone that should be
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: punished like these are these are twenty whatever year old
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: kids like yeah, yeah, man, do something cool and then
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: have some fun with it.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Do you consider an egg Bowl celebration cool?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Oh so your question is do I love the dumbest
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: stuff about college football? Yes? In fact I do. Yeah,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: And that's that was like there was some history there
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: and so then that got flagged as taunting and then
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: they missed an extra point and and my favorite part
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: of that story, this is like the PostScript, This didn't
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: This took a little while to unfold. Both head coaches
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: got fired after that game because, uh, the uh ole
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: miss coach, which was Matt Luke, got fired right after
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: the game. And then Joe Moore, head I believe was
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: the Mississippi State coach at that point, he got fired
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: after the bowl game because they'd lost their bowl game
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: and might have had a brawl at the end of
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: the bowl game or something like that, or they just
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: they just lost their bowl game. He got fired too.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Like to get both coaches fired after a rivalry in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: with the dumbest possible ending, sign me up, that is
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: such a that is just pure uncut Colombian college football.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, exactly, that's why we're here.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Mike wants to know if Kevin is sitting in in
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: the drunk tech in tank in Vegas. No, Kevin is
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: back in the hotel room I believe where We'll be
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: headed back there in just a few minutes. We'll be
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: wrapping up.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: I will think. I do think a response to Derek
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Wore would be like, would you have rather won the
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: national championship and lost to Ohio State?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, well and that's and yeah, we all know
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: the answer that. Yeah, one hundred percent. You know the
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: answer to that. The ultimate goals win the national championship.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: But you can also have fun with it, like you can.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: You can get a little you know, you can do that,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: and then you can give your little you mad smile like.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, he chuckled before he started saying.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: You're you were allowed to have fun? That is one
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: legal Uh, it's just me. Tim says, what's for dinner?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: I believe the answer is the border girl Mexican. Yeah,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: don't talk us, sorry, some kind of Mexican who could
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: say it could be could be, it could be literally
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: anything Uh. This was the first time all week that
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I thought we were definitely not in Big ten country
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: was when we had lunch today and there was salad
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: with like watermelon on it, and uh, it was good,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: but it was like, where's the where's the meat? Where's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: the You know this isn't There's only three kinds of
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: food hamburgers, cheese, burgers, and hot dogs, not jokes. That's
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: like food, ad Jason. Yes, but if it is not
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: sold at a stadium, then you know, if it wasn't
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: sold at a stadium in nineteen ninety three, it shouldn't
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: be served a big time.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: If I'm not eating it out of a plastic helmets,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: what are we doing here?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Here's one from interest Me team. Do you think Will
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Howard will start any games as a rookie? Tony? My
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: last NFL knowledge involved it was like the Wayne Fonts era.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: So you go ahead and way in here.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: I'd say, if you set the over under at zero
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: point five, I'm gonna take the over because Aaron Rodgers
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: is brittle and they don't is.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: He Do they have Russell Wilson to or is he
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: not there?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: Again? I yeah, I don't even I don't know where
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: he is they with Shinny Picketts in Cleveland.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: While we're talking about NFL quarterbacks and injuries, we should
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: mention Justin Fields. I know got carted off from practice.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I never saw an update on that. But you'll never
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: believe this. Something bad happened to the New York Jets.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it either. Franklin fanatic says, God blessed
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: James Franklin come back. That's welcome back. We we you know,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday. We love talking to James
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Franklin at these events. Great great stuff. We'll have make
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: sure you when you see like if you guys see stuff,
• 1:15:25
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• 1:15:26
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• 1:15:28
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• 1:15:42
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• 1:15:45
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• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: We really love, genuinely love having fans of other teams
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: come in this because we don't want this to just
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: be an echo chamber where it's just you know, all
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: the all the questions are, you know, will Ohio State
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: win this game by sixty or seventy? And it's like, well,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: you know, there are other possible outcomes on the table.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: But we do enjoy having interaction and getting some you know,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: information from other folks and feedback from other folks as well.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: But with echo chambers you can hear the hammer better.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's true, that's true, Tonya. Kevin says, we had
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: spam fred rice at lunch there.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: It was very good.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: That was very good. Yes, that was very good, Kevin
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: jumping in here and this is one. This is the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that makes my head hair. The facto
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: to the day that chocked me. Well, the numbers are
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: not public, it sounds like Carrot Top makes eight million
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: dollars a year for his Vegas residency at lux Or.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: We were at the lux Or. I saw like on
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: the big sign outside, like the big electronic sign outside,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: they had hit carrot Top up there, and I was like,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: that's like putting sewage leak inside. Like, guys, there's a
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: prop comic inside. Do you think that draws more people
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: in or pushes more people away?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Well, you're coming here to see him?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, let's use a different word. Some
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: people may be coming, don't don't you you me?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I was only here for the shark Reef and the
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: lad Titanic display.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I was only coming to luxury to get directions on
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: how to get away from Luxer.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: Apparently the tickets are about seventy bucks to me in
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: you know, propagacent so that you can see stuff. Also,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: not only is he on the signage when I called housekeeping,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: he's part of the hold. Like he's talking to you
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: on while you're on hold, and he's got a recording.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: It's like, this is great.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: You know, you know the line from It's How I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Met your Mother where Robin Robin Shrubowski's Canadian and she's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: explaining that, you know, there's The eighties didn't yet to
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: get canned, get to Candid until nineteen ninety three. The
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: nineties didn't get to Vegas until like this week. Because
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: it's you go down the street and it's like Kathy
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Griffin top, like what year is it? Like Donny Osmond,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: but you said that, yeah, there were there were just
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: you go down the street and you're like, I forgot
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: these people were all alive. That's crazy. So anyway, good,
• 1:18:15
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• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: I'm going to see John Tesh tonight.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Make sure you think you'll play round ball rock.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I wasn't sure I'm going to do.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: In the second encore, uh and Mike forgus and says
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Tony makes twelve dollars a ten piece chicken nugget for
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: his Bucky Huddle precedency. Listen, listen, we all, we all
• 1:18:33
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• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: And that was my demand.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: There you go, so all right, Well, thank you guys
• 1:18:39
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• 1:18:41
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• 1:18:50
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• 1:18:56
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• 1:18:58
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• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: So I saw from the uber.
• 1:19:00
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• 1:19:02
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• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: star rating. Interview would also be appreciated that I don't know,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: there's some algorithm something or other that helps other people
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: find it. I don't really understand. Just told that that's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: that's how it works. So that's something else you can
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: do to help us out. So all right, so thank
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: you guys all for joining us. Really appreciate it. Have
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: a great day. We will talk to you tomorrow. M