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Jamal Bryant Breaks His Silence: Divorce, Arrogance, Infidelity & Rebuilding in Public · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: next on the love you worship how did you forgive her forgive them your ex-wife when she went on to a public state yeah i mean fully aware of who you are in the earth you have to have in context up forgive her for exposing what i did to her that that's to arrogance of me yeah she'd have no story if i didn't give it a story line
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[SPEAKER_01]: My ex-wife says she didn't divorce me because of infidelity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She divorced me because of my arrogance after the infidelity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That I had no attrition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had, like, hey, I said, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you still mad?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, we still talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've owe it to God and I owe it to my children for them to see me in a healthy relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I have failed in front of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am 70% of who I'm supposed to be single.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeez.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 70%.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you doing it like this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, I'm at 70%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, listen, listen to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am operating as a runway model for grace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Bible says you don't get favor to you, everyone.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Hey family, Willie Mojoon, you're here and welcome to another edition of the Love You More Show.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Now listen, if this is your first time watching this show, I wanna encourage you to click that little notification bill so you can be updated whenever a new show comes out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I know I can trust you to do that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Family, you know, the Bible says that we are to love our neighbor,
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[SPEAKER_06]: as we love ourselves, and the truth is there's so many neighborhoods and people who are not being impacted with love mainly because we don't love ourselves the way we should.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you can be honest, there's so many different things that you get lost in whether it's social media, your children, your husband, your wife, your career, if you're in the ATL DC LA, or a traffic, come on, you lose yourself there too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But the truth is it's time for you to be found again.
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[SPEAKER_06]: because I believe the best version of you is the best version that God requires and it takes you loving yourself more.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's what this platform is all about.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Today I get the esteem privilege to hang out with a gentleman who literally loves his self and the reason why I know that is because he's helping neighborhoods all across the country.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's helping seniors all across the country.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'll tell you what, he's helping people like me watch him navigate from a distance with all of the ups and downs
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm excited right now that I get an opportunity to hang out with your pastor's favorite past.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Tomorrow Brian's hanging out with me now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's going on, champ?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Man, I am so glad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in my feeling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how's it taking me so long to get on this show?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I have to tell people that people I say it to, I'm, I'm supposed to have next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you because you, you absolved, you absolved the stuff I was offering in my heart.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, listen, I wanted to have you on the first show, but you know, getting on your schedule, man, a guy that's pulling you all.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's because you called, we're off as call.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Ha, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's how we roll.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, totally.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Man, so your mom Bryant,
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just grateful to have you, of course, I'm saying that not just for the camera, but I always say publicly that there's never been a time if it has been in your power that if I called you for anything, you always show up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I always say, man, listen, that is my brother from another mother.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I publicly want to thank you on this platform because the last time I came to do something at the church time for Lazarus for me, you came and I was just on faith.
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[SPEAKER_06]: a lot of people was feeling a certain type of way about me and just to know that I called you and you had just got finished with a funeral, but you still made time for me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So before we even get to any ice break, because I just want to say thank you, brother.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Man, I love you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't even know why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are the only man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to put this on record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're the only man who sends me video face messages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: whole time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No did he?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to make sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, he's young as he sent me video, but no, you were real brother, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I appreciate you, my brother twice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm grateful for who you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your authenticity away from the mic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, your consistent.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I appreciate that the way we do it here on the love you more show, we have an icebreaker.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And our icebreaker is music.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so this particular song is actually called The Leaver.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you'd be in the Man of Faith stepping out on faith in so many arenas.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I want to start off with that KD, bring our attention to the screen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: After that little counseling session, wifey and I had a time that night.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Lord, I was playing so much basketball.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You said, wouldn't you know what I said?
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[SPEAKER_06]: That mean I was poke it and laying up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Call me MJ, baby, from downtown.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Now I'm rushing to work.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Super duper, duper tripping.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What I'm gonna do, calling him and telling him, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Me and my wife, we made up and she put me to sleep.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I put her to sleep, sleep.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Nah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You haven't made it to the office so late that you was embarrassed that you even made it at the time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My boss always had it out for me, so when I walk in and he's going to say, Willy Moore Jr.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So nice for you to join us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Late.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like sorry sir.
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[SPEAKER_06]: As I take my CD out in the put my little church finger Everybody in their kind of snickers in the giggly man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't care how mad this dude He's gonna say hey guys seeing how well will he finally decided to join us?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Great us with his amazing presence.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let's just take a five minute break a break After I don't rush my happy tale all the way from home trying to get to this Breathe he look at him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I believe
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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you be fine
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[SPEAKER_06]: Isn't it crazy that the moment that you try to do the right thing temptation just comes out of the world work?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Here I am going to counseling, trying to be the best little me that I can be.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And everybody can kind of feel that it's friction and paradise.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I still can't believe all babe called, we had an instant connection, but I've been doing my best to keep it on the up and up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I get on the phone to call my queen, the phone rings and rings and rings, but...
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's unfortunate she's not answering.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Now the Bible says that God will always give us a way of escape.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's just unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't always take that route.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So in that song, there is a lot of parts in there, but I'm an entrepreneur and I also have a job.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And in these environments, I get tempted in so many different ways.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Besides women, of course, that's been the thing that they always put on me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I see online that there are so many different people who come at you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: and as a public figure, a pastor, a leader amongst leaders, how do you keep your cool when these Negroes and other people have so much to say about you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Does it ever get to you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Does it ever break the fourth wall and touch your heart?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, John Maxwell said if you want to be like cell ice cream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you do anything that's of any countercultural expression, you're going to deal with opposition in a lot of us as public people have to make sure we stay away from the demon of affirmation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we think in the social media construct, we're supposed to always be liked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When that's not the case, people don't ever see you as human that you really feel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just recently, everybody's talking about Ditty, I'm not even talking about the ends of now today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to deal with for one moment is what my heart went out to is thinking about his daughters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, who seniors in high school, I don't want to go to school on Monday with the whole world having that and nobody's taking that collective pause to say what's happening with these girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've raised in an interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Will it can you imagine them invading my logo?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What would have been the outcry of Trump's kids and handcuffs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We sat and watched Diddy's kids in handcuffs with no charges and said absolutely nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the only reason or places when it impacts me is when my girls are calling me to say, Daddy, are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: their daddy wanted a prince in the pickup line asked me about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in school today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So it doesn't impact me until it impacts my kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then so, you know, throughout life, throughout this ministerial call that you had, like you had several public things that have gone public.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How do you speak to your daughters about some of the things that have happened?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, how do you when they were like younger?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you prepare your children?
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[SPEAKER_01]: thing that comes with anointing is exposure, whether good or bad, the reality is, we still have no idea who told on Moses killing their guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We still have no body there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody will do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it comes within.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the way that my oil is constructed, my grace is connected to my accountability.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if I don't hold myself accountable, God will pull the sheets off of me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And say, I'm gonna make you live this out loud because humility is not one of my fruits of the spirit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he has no idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he got to make me live through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that you are mindful that as gifted as you are, you still need mercy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, the discipline has got to be something you aspire or towards, not just in private place, but in public space as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, so, so, so I see you, so we laugh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, because I went through my little stand.
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[SPEAKER_06]: A lot of public everything.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I remember my accountability partner, he said, he said, you and Jamal Brian have very unique anointing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're gonna always land on your feet.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He said, I want you to get a little closer to him because maybe he can help you navigate through some of the emotions that you feel because I'm a neighborhood guy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I grew up in church, but we was something that we do on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like, you know, some people like, I was in church on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then on Tuesday, it was Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they were smoking cool fields to King's owners, you walk out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Holy Ghost gon' hit you in the church.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then that cool field of the King's smoke gon' hit you when you come out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's just what's gon' happen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So you grew up with a father who's a pastor and your mother and father there together and that's what you grew up in.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you think that helped you a lot with all of the public issues on how to handle it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It ill prepare me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My parents have been married for 53 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My grandparents were married for 62 on my mother's side, 64 on my father's side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeez.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buckle up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the first person in my family get a divorce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't have any counsel on how do you navigate this space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My parents write books on healthy marriage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My parents do ministerial retreats for classes in their wives on how to keep it together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when I had my marriage dissolved out of my infidelity, it was really the first time my parents said to me in life that they were disappointed in me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And nothing crush me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't say what they do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it took the wind out of me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I had to really go on a path of my own journey of my own walk with God because mercy is not a friends and family program.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It ain't by one give off for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get it on your own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was swallowed in this space and didn't know how to deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my ex-wife then immediately
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I'm living it in front of 13 million people every Sunday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so whatever you went through, I have no sympathy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever you went through, I'd ask you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, so what did you, how did that, so I wanted, I was so hurt.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, man, this could not be happening to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was walking through the airport in a TSA agency and a man, keep your head up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch housewives last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I say, keep your head up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, you, we won't, I got to elevate us in public space, but don't want public accountability.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't get one without the other that light shines, but it also burns and so you've got to a walk circumspecally of saying what does it really mean as a leader?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to be a leader or do you want to be a speaker?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to be a speaker when you get off the mic is over, but if you want to be a leader and he walks with me
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you had to take all of that into accountability.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I've had to literally grow up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be mindful, Willie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have been a national preacher since I was 29.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm 52.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm the Gary Coleman of the Gospel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That didn't grew up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in front of people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So people's mama have seen my story and watched me navigate through that life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most people on the stage came to the stage after they worked out their kinks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So nobody knows what Joyce Miles first has been look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody know where no Jones X-Wife look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They deal with them in their new testament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They wouldn't be mad like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're on his hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got, yeah, so you got to navigate that space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am be able to walk in humility and say, I fall in them, but I got to get back up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't land on my feet, I land on my knees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Highly, Lou.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I am of the mind that anybody who is authentically
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[SPEAKER_01]: fights depression every three months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Expand on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you have to traffic in the supernatural.
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[SPEAKER_01]: while dealing with humans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So God, it give you the vision, but never gives you the process.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Faith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's often in or may he's beginning in and in, but we navigate that middle by I say, I was trying to figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so to be in public spacing, you don't have to benefit to hide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You and got to benefit to go hide in Cuba for two months and come back when the story passed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get up for your kids and for the people who you are assigned to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luther Blackwell from St. Louis says something to me years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, preachers are the last people to believe what they preach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They believe it for everybody else, but don't believe for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It will get up on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God has seen you through trouble at all last.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It came to pass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we in it, the time is falling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You understand, so you gotta be able to take your own medicine and get how your own supply.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta say that this gospel really works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you now have a different sensitivity of preaching two people who go on through divorce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was triggered watching this video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, man, this is a country Wayne's get that got sacrificed, it was too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for you to have that level of transparency three years ago, you wouldn't have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the reality is that more people have gone through divorce, more people have gone through a breakup, than people who are happily married.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we paint this picture of the cars be shown that everybody is together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And don't know that while the cars be shown being taped,
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[SPEAKER_06]: No matter how disciplined you are, temptation is everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we all have to fight with our internal monsters.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And sometimes we fall into the trap, and we hurt the ones we say we love the most.
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[SPEAKER_06]: As you get older, love one's pass away, and you left a little life with a void that you never really anticipated.
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[SPEAKER_06]: For some reason, people never talk about the parts of you that die when you love one leaves the earth.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's so easy to lose who you are in the midst of all it is.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I lost myself because I forgot to love myself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'd like to take you on a journey and hope that you can learn how to love you more.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I want to go back to your mom and dad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So did they get an opportunity to meet your wife before?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Did you all look good?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The pre-medicalt's land.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We kneeling in the living room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are not now here with all of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The cup gone run over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing daily devotional's praying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So you did everything that the church said you supposed to do in life for your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did everything the church said I was supposed to do on paper.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do what God mandated me to do before I signed the paper.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now what is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is for me to be a husband.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not of age according to the state of Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had not matured in enough place to value who it is that I am.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what it is that I am supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My wife, my ex-wife says she didn't divorce me because of infidelity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She divorced me because of my arrogance after the infidelity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That I had no attrition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had like, hey, I said, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why you still mad?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish they were talking about that and a lot of us who are in public space can be so coddled by public affirmation that we lose the discipline of what it means to chase at home.
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of people are not able in public space to navigate.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: My wife ain't supposed to be my fan, and she's supposed to be my friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the reality is Adam had one member of his mega church, is Eve, and a church crumble because he never taught her discipleship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been more time with kangaroos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he deal with this?
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the question when he talking to you to snake, where is Adam?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's supposed to be right there.
21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, um, I made marriage and my mistress and my church, my bride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was out of order.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: What changes would you make next or is that something you desire?
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, absolutely.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It ain't good for you to be alone.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a difference and there is a handicap.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I am 70% of who I'm supposed to be single.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeez.
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[SPEAKER_06]: 70% and you doing it like this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you I'm at 70%.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, listen, listen to me.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I am operating as a runway model for grace.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The Bible says, you don't get favor to you have a wife.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am not operating on to the favor of God.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm operating under the grace of God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With the favor of God, I'd have to be a two services at New Burf right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the grace, I'm filling it.
22:32
[SPEAKER_06]: You want to say it?
22:35
[SPEAKER_06]: So talking to me a little bit like about it because it says he found the way I find it a good thing and obtain it's favor from the law.
22:43
[SPEAKER_06]: I was under the, I'm under the thought process of you're going to have to have favor from the Lord because you're not going to be solely focused on God.
22:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're going to be focused on your mate.
22:53
[SPEAKER_06]: So favor has to prepare you until you're to your desk.
22:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but the favor's coming from her and coming from you.
22:59
[SPEAKER_07]: Hmm.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's important the most critical decision after getting saved is who you may.
23:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And you will go as far or not as far based off of who you are connected to at a reality is nobody's going to say it let's argue let's kick the table aside.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Would Jay Z be making this much money if you weren't married to Beyoncé?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Lizzie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to fight.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we don't want to fight.
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, the continuity matters, it matters of who it is that you connect and are you in divine partnership for where you want to go?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and a lot of preachers make the wrong mistake because they may be based off of where they are, not where they're going.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And then once they get there, they realize this wasn't it.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
23:49
[SPEAKER_06]: So as you as you now know that you operate in that 70% do you posture your heart and prepare for it like a little less and yeah, it's got to be tough the day it's got to be tough.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to God and I owe it to my children for them to see me in a healthy relationship because I have failed in front of them.
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to model in front of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: modeling it in front of them is not telling them is demonstrating it and so I am intentional how it is that I treat my ex-wife, but I also want them to see what they should expect when it's time for them to get married.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because I don't want them to adjust to dysfunction.
24:31
[SPEAKER_06]: How did you, how did you forgive her for giving her your ex-wife when she went on to a public stage?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, fully aware of who you are in the earth.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have to have in context.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgive her for exposing what I did to her.
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That that's to arrogance of me.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she'd have no story if I didn't give it a story like it.
24:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and so I'm, I'm accountable for giving the story.
25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I should have never given the cocked weapon to her, um, but, you know, the enemy had a round of applause, uh, thinking that, uh, you can use an area of somebody's brokenness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, tell all of that.
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... sees a clock one of my favorite our preachers uh... he's since passed he's uh... out of Dallas, Texas i've told you store he went through a divorce years ago in the 80s went online no one online and uh... he goes to court willy and uh... they're the final proceedings of the divorce the judge says the doctor clock your ex-wife wants uh... your vacation house in florida
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want her to have it?
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Clark said, yeah, let her have it.
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So Dr. Clark, your wife wants to Mercedes.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want her to have it?
25:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, let her have it.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Clark, your wife wants your pension because you used to be in the military.
26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want her to have it?
26:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Clark said, yeah, I want her to have it.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: She just says, wait a minute.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Clark, you ain't got to give her all of this.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You can fake for somebody else.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just telling you what you want.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You ain't got to give it to her.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Clark said, do you notice what she didn't ask me for?
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The judge says, no, what did she ask you for?
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't ask for my Bible.
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: If you leave me with my Bible, I can get all of that again.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to have the mind for him.
26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I fight and over no material stuff.
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm claiming he'd your whole vagina, whatever it is, is somebody can take God and give it back to you.
26:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm at that level of peace that nobody can take anything away from me of God wants me to have it.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Katie, what manner of man is that I'm telling you.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hey.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking to you bloody bandages, sir.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel it.
26:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
26:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm listening.
26:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, hey, subscribe to this channel real quick.
26:59
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
26:59
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm my cooler when I'm just a little suit.
27:01
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like it's supposed to again.
27:02
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like I just puffed up.
27:03
[SPEAKER_06]: But look here.
27:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I got to ask you this.
27:05
[SPEAKER_06]: What type of studying does Jamal Bryan do?
27:07
[SPEAKER_06]: What does a regular week look like?
27:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I've stood on stage with you.
27:12
[SPEAKER_06]: And you called, you tell me I'm gonna do my little orphanage story at home.
27:17
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you got to come up there and live up there from back up.
27:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Willie did the little orphanage story.
27:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody was crying.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They had to break them back in.
27:24
[SPEAKER_06]: But what type of study are you doing?
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, is there a process for this story?
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I've read a book a week.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: My home pastor shout out to Bishop Frank Madison, read the third, put me on a regimen when I was 19.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: At the first week of the month, I read a biography to read somebody's failures in success.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Second week of the month, I read a book on theology.
27:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Third, a book of the month, I read something about black culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fourth week of the month, I read a novel
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[SPEAKER_01]: So his audio is like, Oh, no, I'm reading with being read, no, no, I'm reading it and studying it.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: A Sunday morning is my pastor every Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to meet in his office at 730 and give him an oral book report on what I read it.
28:16
[SPEAKER_01]: The catch Willie is he only gave me books.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He had already read it.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was testing me to make sure I wouldn't just be reading it.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I am a student of life, so whether I'm speaking at a college or speaking at a church or speaking at a community association, I'm equipped for it, we'll Smith said, if you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready.
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So wherever it is that I am, I'm prepared to do it.
28:43
[SPEAKER_06]: So how do you, how do you, you, you have a ready-made skin.
28:48
[SPEAKER_06]: So what I'm noticing in my singleness is that I am now at peace where I am.
28:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't get me wrong, grief comes in ways.
28:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I have these moments, but I'm really at peace with my systems, my regiments, and all that.
29:00
[SPEAKER_06]: How does one not get so caught up in his own system that he doesn't have room to invite someone else in.
29:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you're not at peace.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You comfortable, but you are not at peace.
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, by virtue of the fact of going to pick up your kids, you are not at peace.
29:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You call and say, can you put them on the phone, you know, no peace?
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You are adjusting to a new way of life and have embraced it.
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but the warfare is a little simmered down because you ain't at odds.
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But being at odds and being at peace, you know, no, no, no, those are two different things.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So you write a vibe.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that
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[SPEAKER_01]: at a funeral, I know where the cemetery is.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't dry by there, but you got to walk by living corpse.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's a different level of grief that you had a funeral when I'm growing.
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we know the uniform of death is actual death.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And so in going through that process, you relive the funeral every other weekend.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with no Paul bears of, you know, who can care you.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm been divorced 10 years and it's still resonates with me that I'm making a call on Mother's Day.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I got to ask somebody else.
30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the plan for my kids for spring break?
30:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just did that.
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, here we are a couple of silver spoons.
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so no, it's it's an ongoing ongoing process that you're going to have to navigate for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
31:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
31:02
[SPEAKER_06]: So you have three girls.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
31:05
[SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, one set of twins, now they're in college, navigate and graduate and all that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How hard was it with girls?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I have a little baby girl who loves you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She did.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Every time she sees him, I'll be like, now he
31:22
[SPEAKER_06]: is was it hard for you to even consider that another man may be in the house?
31:27
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, how you never get to cause him girls, you know?
31:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, no, so I have three girls which is our five girls.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, five girls.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I can't tell my ex wife don't date, no, I'm dating, you know what I'm saying?
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we came to a agreement that we only introduced people to our children
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if it ain't going nowhere, don't even get them involved, but I can't project my pseudo values on my x-wife when I didn't hold the standard of morality.
32:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, there's some behold the false profit.
32:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And so again, it's more important that I'm modeling yet, then I'm trying to lay down the law.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I know it cheated, but don't be with nobody.
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and nobody going to take you seriously.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's why it's important on your side to make sure that you are practicing what you preach.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say this to you.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Will a 78% of grown preachers' kids don't go to church?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, 78%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 78% do not go to church here this because they
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the church came ahead of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they resent the church.
32:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have a conversation about church or to you talk to preachous kids.
33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you talk to preachous kids, you don't have to benefit a pastor.
33:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you just running around preaching wherever.
33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have the little old ladies that will your mom add today.
33:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She looked cute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have that to deal with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So imagine navigating that space with your kids and on the way home from church, you having to have a debrief stuff.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't even entertain the invite saying anything to y'all today.
33:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Are y'all okay sitting on the front row for the first time without mama?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing this how five five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't even understand putting in place for a five year old to be the first lady.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So at five, they want to, they looking at what dress you got on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: whether she yawning on the front.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, that's a whole lot of different kind of pressure that you got to try to maximize.
33:55
[SPEAKER_06]: So, 78% of those children never don't go to church anymore, what building blocks did your father and mother who passed it?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How did you become a part of that 22% that decided?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they make sure I loved God more than I loved church.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we didn't do church for public appearances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we had to have our own devotional life, our own prayer life.
34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't force us to be a part of Augsier because you all in the first family.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so my sister and I get to choose you more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go out, all listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's two years younger than me.
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And my sister, Dr. Taylor Bryant, shout out to her, is the outgoing president of the American Psychological Association.
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when I went through my divorce,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't walk me through this journey because he's meant to I ever got a third because I don't need to a y'all Just check on your brother.
34:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't put me on the ground up the couch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, but no, she she's helped me in an immeasurable way.
35:04
[SPEAKER_06]: So as you look towards the future, I was I had the extent privilege of hosting an event for the end of the year at your church and you had ministers and the way your brain thinks.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes
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[SPEAKER_06]: they were, it was the body of Christ.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, ministers of this, ministers of that.
35:22
[SPEAKER_06]: How do you take these ideologies from heaven, bring them on earth and lead in such a way that most people don't lead, they may be arrogant to say, but I had never seen the department's name the way they were named.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I am a visionary, I'm a creative.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not an administrator.
35:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to hire my deficits.
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know what I want that painted wall to look like.
35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the temperament to order paint, you know.
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to know what color blue it is.
35:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I just get it up there.
36:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to pull people in position whose asset could cover my liability.
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: The reality is Dr. King did not open out the margin and he just forget it.
36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you had to have somebody who got a man for where the buses are going park, where the spider pot going to be, where can 200,000 nigg girls eat and walk and do you see, you got to have people who have that man frame and I've got an incredible staff who can think beyond my dream, because all I got is the dream, but I needed a dream team to help it work.
36:36
[SPEAKER_06]: So all of the building blocks that you've had now, we're going in the real estate.
36:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
36:42
[SPEAKER_06]: Down here in Atlanta, many homes from millennials, senior housing, I'm even saying health care facilities, talk a little bit about that and how important it is for the community.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I came to a shout-out to you.
36:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You were one of the first people to welcome me to Atlanta.
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: When I came now five years ago, so I don't have any background in development.
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[SPEAKER_01]: None.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I came here and three days after I accepted this pastor, did they tell me I got 32 million dollars worth of debt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second day?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I get here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, they didn't know.
37:20
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I have to get you.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, let me just show you the book.
37:24
[SPEAKER_01]: They telling us that we are four months from four closure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: After I get here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They tell me the county looking at turning our church into the convention center.
37:34
[SPEAKER_01]: After you do yes, we are the largest land-owning black church in America with a sanctuary in a gym.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So I am sitting on the answer to the problem.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I never dreamed about houses.
37:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I never dreamed about clinics, but I was forced into a place where God made me dream out loud.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So we are in a couple of weeks breaking ground on 150, many homes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be the first end to cab county that I want to sell primarily to millennials who are the last generation to become homeowners.
38:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Atlanta for those of you watching around the world and land is the only place in America with as a waiting list for apartments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the only place in the world outside of New York, LA and San Francisco with rip prices is the same as a mortgage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, more.
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a more.
38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I wanted to change that narrative because there was such a responsibility on mega churches that are having a minor impact.
38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So people go to mega churches.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: People looking for you to do more.
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I wanted to step into that vacuum and do something of greater significant.
38:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Bishop Eddie Long was the first thing to come to you, man, a world-class futurist.
38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Our church is 24 years old and it looks like it was built last year.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: For him, I didn't understand his genius until I became his successor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The greatest regret of my past year is in five years.
39:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never been able to get him on the phone.
39:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It is the power to put you talk about the power of a mentor.
39:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I had absolutely nobody in Newberg's phone number when I became the pastor.
39:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I missed that connection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could have told me who to look out for.
39:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Who not to fool with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reality is nobody's going to say it.
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bishop Long had the biggest black church.
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Bishop Jake's had the biggest name.
39:48
[SPEAKER_01]: but we had to big as a ministry.
39:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to realize in Bishop Long's prime, we were doing three services a weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a weekend, like you're understanding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what it is that he was able to find here to do, Bishop Long gave more men than the nation there is long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so he was really transforming a culture at Lannar with synonymous with Bishop Long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I just marvel at his genius.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had his brains, at his oil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how it is that he was able to navigate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So when you think about Baltimore, how are you still connected to that city?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My parents live in Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still from Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just recently, I raised that offering to help pay for the funeral of all the people who died on the bridge on last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm Dorothy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm clicking my heels three times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It ain't no place like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I love Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad to be in Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and so here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that had to be faith.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, because you built a huge ministry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And many people from Baltimore, some people, you brought in and I don't know if it's right to say this, but it's like you never forget what you're doing for Jonathan and bringing people there and that will truly you like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, just speak to that loyalty that you have for longevity.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I think it's, I think you are cloned because I don't know how you and 45 different places every one time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're over here, then you're over there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, talk a little bit about that loyalty and showing up for people.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You from St. Louis, I'm from Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are in that different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Loyalty is very dangerous because you can't confuse loyalty with competency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't bring anybody from my stay from Baltimore here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan had already left me four years ago and was in Fort Lauderdale with Fernandez.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He called me three months after being there saying, the Lord is talking to me, I'm supposed to come help you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't bring anybody from Baltimore because I felt like I needed a complete fresh start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the mistakes we make from the hood
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[SPEAKER_01]: who is afraid of heights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because they afraid of heights, they're gonna try to keep us down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we keep the slogan, keep in it real is keeping it in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what keeping it real is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wissables will always be evolving, always be growing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have a heart for Baltimore, but I'm clear that my staff in Baltimore was not equipped for what I wanted to do at Newburgh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When did this version appear?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, this version is different than all of the other versions I've seen years prior.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, you love, like I think you always love Jamal.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But there's a, but I think it's evolved into I love all sides of Jamal.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This level of freedom that you walk in there now was just completely different.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What changed when I knew what part of Jamal to hate?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I started to love my brokenness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started to love my handicap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I became spoiled by grace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say, oh, I got away with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me do it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I did deal with Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I'm gonna leave that thorning you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, but I ain't taking it away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So once you hit that 50 mark, I say, man, this is that legacy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one thing to be a young fool is another one to be a old one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when he's greased, I'm popping up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, man, it ain't enough Beijing in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to do something else in order of functions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I'm looking at how do I establish and build a legacy that will outlive me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chief.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's what you're my old brown ladies and gentlemen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I wish it was a studio, I love you guys so much.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Family listen, I know that you were blessed because I know I was blessed, but here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's so important just as a team, and I call you a part of my team.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love you more, more team.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love you guys so much.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I think it's so important that what you saw and what you heard today, depending on how you listen it is, I hope you heard freedom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I was hanging out on Easter and I was talking to my children just about the resurrection and the cross and I began to talk to them a little bit about the parts that wasn't omitted.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I asked my children.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, babe, um, what parts of this of this process was omitted?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And Paisley said daddy what what's omitted?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I said thank you because you know she's gonna act she ain't gonna play cool.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I said, what parts were taken out?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, do you think it was some parts taken out?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, no, they really beat them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they really did this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I said, well, do you think that the cross and the reservation would be so great if they just said, yep, he had, you know, he just, he was hated and then he went on the cross and then he, and then he came back, the design like a good story.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they were like, no, it doesn't sign as good as, like, him being beat and hurt.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, yeah, but when he was going through it, I know that was really, really hard, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And it was like, right, I was like, yeah, but it made a good story, not for him all the way, but for you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so maybe you're going through something that's so embarrassing and it hurts you really, really bad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I would just suggest, possibly, if you can maybe get out of yourself for a moment and ask God, God, how do you want to use this for your glory?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because ultimately, he's using you to be such a blessing to other people if and only if you're brave and courageous enough, then once you get out of this day,
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[SPEAKER_06]: and you will go tell somebody about it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So YouTube has set the captures free.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just want to challenge you today because I know it's tough.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I feel it in my heart that this moment is tough, whatever it is financially, that doctor, whatever he said, that relationship, whatever that thing is, I know it is tough and it is embarrassing and it is sometimes really, really hollow.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But some people say life be life and I just believe that God be God too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so my challenge to you today is that you can just dig with it and it's like, God, I know that you are going to use this for your glory.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It will not always be like this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I can remember sitting there, thinking that Lord,
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[SPEAKER_06]: And now that I stand on this other side, I know that I can never be this if it wasn't for that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: and I start to thank God for that, because I show no flow of this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Come on, somebody.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't wait till you get to your dish.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All right, family, listen, I wanna encourage you right now to subscribe to this channel, send this to about 10 people.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And the shout out to all of my Patreon community, it's a few of us, and we're starting to talk a lot more, so I'm excited about it, but the more the myriad, you are welcome.
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